Sept. 16, 2025

Where the Weird Ones Are: Stories of Darkness and Light w/ Kevin Sapiel Jr

Where the Weird Ones Are: Stories of Darkness and Light w/ Kevin Sapiel Jr
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Kevin Sapiel Jr. shares his journey as the host of the podcast 'Where the Weird Ones Are,' exploring themes of the supernatural, mental health, and personal experiences with paranormal phenomena. He discusses his early encounters with strange occurrences, the motivation behind starting his podcast, and the importance of mental health in navigating life's challenges. The conversation delves into various experiences in the woods, including encounters with cryptids and the concept of spiritual warfare, emphasizing the significance of love and intention in overcoming darkness.

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Year jo straight from the broadcast studio, and then the statics.

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This ain't no Pretzim story. So as prophetic encrypt the

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signals from the saddles of the garden we did where

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with a twist peak the frequency seeds in the midst

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we drop fas like plagues, revelations in the catus, broadcasting

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truth while they trapped in surveillans wisdom with a watchman's blade,

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forth what sound while your whole system faid blood, moons,

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deph for love, echoes in the pond Sasquat's talking through

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the fault lines of time. We ain't mainstream, We ain't

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just stream safer with the prophets to code the dreams.

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So with you turn in better guards, your mind is

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broadcasting seeds and we break in the design design.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Instead, all right, we're here everyone with Kevin from

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Where the Weird Things Are. I love the name. I

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just remember reading my kids those books Where the Wild

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Things Are. So anyway, tell us who you are and

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what you do man, and where we can find you. Yeah.

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Absolutely, So I'm the host of Where the Weird Ones Are?

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It is a conversational based podcast revolving around guests encounters

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with supernatural paranormal conspiracies. We'd get in. We dig into

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mental health a lot too. It's pretty much essentially just

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like Bennett's show, a lot like Bennett Show when he

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has guests on just conversational and experience based. So and

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then where you can find the show is anywhere you

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can find podcasts. I on YouTube. If you're interested in

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following the Instagram, it's where underscore the Weird Ones are.

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On Facebook, you can find me by my name, Kevin

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Sapield Junior if you so choose to go that route.

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But yeah, that's a that's the show. That's where you

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can find me. Also where the Weird Ones are podcast

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dot com. That is another avenue. Also if you feel

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like if you want to touch base with me about

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the show, about being on telling your stories or whatever,

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you can reach me through that avenue. I also sell

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a lot of things like merch like the shirt behind me,

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and I have a bunch of other designs and I

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sell my I make create label package my own hot sauce.

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So if you're interested in hot sauces, you can definitely

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hit me up for that, and I have coffee and supplements,

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So yeah, can those are all places you can find me.

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I'm just not on X because I'm not interested.

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Now what's your what's your favorite place? Like? Where where

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do you want to drive people with your website.

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Or website and Instagram?

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Okay, I'm the same, Yeah, yeah, because I'm not interested

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in X either. Too much trauma.

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Yeah, there's way too many like people just talking over

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each other. I feel like, you know, and I'm just like,

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I don't I don't want to deal with that because

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I don't even see the content that I want to

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see on on there to begin with.

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Facebook's gotten pretty bad too, like yeah, face just man

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like trolls everywhere. It's weird.

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But yeah, I don't understand it.

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Yeah I don't either. But so what is your gateway

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to this whole plethora of high strangeness that we deal with? Man?

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What what was your like experiences or or what what

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was your gateway to all this?

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Well, I'll have to say, so I was like four

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years old the first time I ever saw anything strange,

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and I know, like it's really it's a lot for

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a lot of people. It's really hard to remember things

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that young but there's a whole lot of things that

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I remember from that age, from that year, really. But

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my sister was is a year year and a half

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younger than me. We just got done watching Ghostbusters too.

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My dad had just gotten home from work and they

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were getting us ready for bed, and my sister had

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gone into her her bedroom and she came out screaming,

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saying she saw a witch in her window. And you know,

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there was a big hullabaloo. You know, everybody was like,

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what the fuck? I think my older brother was already

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in the hit in our bedroom. Me and my brother

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shared a room, my sister had her own room, and

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then my parents had a room. And we lived in

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this trailer on the side of a mountain in Vermont,

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and there was a there was a farm, and there

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was one other trailer that was STEMI close to us,

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but other than that, it was all wilderness. Oh so

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you're out there, yeah, yeah, so and we had a yeah,

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we had a half hour drive to grocery shopping. So

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but yeah, so my sister's yelling and screaming about a

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witch in her window, and my sister and I talked

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about this a lot recent especially when I started the

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podcast we started talking about it. My sister kind of

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co hosts for a little bit for a few episodes,

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but yeah, we discussed. We discussed this this situation. She's like,

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I remember seeing a face. I was like, well, you

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said witch. She's like, I don't remember saying which I

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remember saying face. And I was like, well, I remember

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you saying there was a witch in your window. And

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she goes, either way, there was something in my fucking window.

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And I go, yes, there was definitely something in your window.

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But anyway, So I'm walking down the hallway to my

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room to get in bed, and I'm just I remember

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walking by my sister's bedroom and she's crying and my

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dad's trying to like calm her down and stuff, and

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I was like, man, she's crazy.

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We can anyone go outside and like look no, wow.

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Nope, nobody did.

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I mean maybe my dad did afterwards, right, but otherwise

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they're like, ah, you're fine, You're fine, okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. So I get to my room and I'm standing

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in the doorway and I have like a double window.

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and as I'm walking, it's pitch black out there. I

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can't see anything. I can't make out anything. And then

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I see these two figures just go by the window,

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and I just froze and I was like whoa. And

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in my mind, because my sister had just said she

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saw a witch, this this trailer was up on like

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this like pedestal like this of like this high foundation

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because it's on the side of a mountain. Somal Yeah,

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it was propped up like even if my dad was

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standing out there his and my dad's probably about my

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height now, like he probably would have just seen the

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top of his head.

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Wow.

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So and I see these two figures, and because my

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sister said she saw a whitch, all I could think

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about in that moment was there's two witches flying around

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on brooms round our house, just going, you know. And

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I'm just like, oh shit. And I ran back to

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the living room and I sat down on the couch

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where all the lights are on, and my dad had

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finally got done with my sister and he's like comes

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out and he's like, what what are you doing? And

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I was like, I don't want to go to bed,

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and he's like, get to bed, and I was like ah.

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And then I remember going back to my room, and

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I was very like slow and I'm looking out the

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windows and I'm not getting close to the windows. I'm

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just I'm staying as far away from the windows that

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I can because there's a third window on this wall.

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So we got the double windows here, and then there's

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a third window there near our bed, and I was like,

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I don't want to get in my bed next to

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this window. But nothing ever happened. Nothing happened after that.

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It was just that once one time around and I

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was just I was like, what the hell is that?

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Ever since then?

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Do you think.

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I think it was I think I don't know, you know,

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I I would like to say that maybe it just

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happened to be manifestation from my sister maybe or whatever.

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But we I mean, we had just watched Ghostbusters two,

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which there's not a witch in it, but there is

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a woman that flies up to the window to collect

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the baby. So I don't know if that played a

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role in it, or what. But either way, like there's

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there's big there's a lot of recorded reported sightings of

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like Bigfoot and ship in that area. I don't think

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it was Bigfoot that it was because because we the

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trailer itself sat so high, and I could see a

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full figure go by. You know, there's no way like

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I would have seen like chest to shoulder to to

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to the top of the head if it was like

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a big kind of things, right, right, So it was

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just I mean, I also think that my sister had

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an attachment for a while, and I think I did too,

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and I think I still kind of do, because I

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still see shadow figures in this I haven't in a while,

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but I still once I bought this house, I did

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see shadow figures and never do anything. I've seen shadow

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figures my entire life. They never do anything. They're always

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just ominous and standing there, like what you doing with

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that kind of thing? Yeah, So I remember we Yeah,

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I remember we lived with my grandparents for a while

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and my brother had his bedroom down in the basement,

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and so like half of half of the basement was

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finished so that he could have a bedroom down there,

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and the other half was not, and my brother had

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the Nintendo sixty four in his room, so the only

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place I could play was in his room, so I

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had to go down there, and every time I went

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down there, it was like every literally every time, there'd

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be something in the corner standing against the lolly column

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kind of looking like this, but completely black, and so

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I couldn't tell it was like that, but just the

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outline of it looked like it would be standing there,

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leaning up against the post. Sometimes they'd be crouched under

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the stairs and I used to I remember I used

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to sing a lot, like when I would see them,

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I would start humming. I'd be like, if I'm singing,

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they're not going to hurt me, because who wants to

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hurt a child singing?

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Happy child?

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That I am right, So in my brain I was like,

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if I love them, you know.

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I'm just gonna sing them a lullaby, that's all. That's awesome.

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Oh shit, that's that's great. What Nintendo sixty four games

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did you play?

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I played Rush was one of our favorites. Yep, Mario,

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and there was another.

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Oh double O seven, Double O seven, Golden Nye, Golden

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gold Night. Yeah. Man, that was fun to just thratch it.

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It was so awesome play the player, yep, go at

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it that. It was the first time we could ever play.

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We could play more than two players, and I just

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I thought it was amazing. And now you can play

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like freaking twenty yeah players.

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Yeah, so I have a Nintendo sixty four. I'm actually

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right back there. I still have one. Yeah, I don't

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have a hooked up braidon, but man, I have gold

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and eight. That was such a good I just remember

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being in an army and sitting there playing that man

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and there we'd all like pile in this one room

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during lunch and just kill each other the whole freaking time.

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It's just ridiculous.

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I loved it.

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So four years old, you have this experience. So what

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moving on from there? You said you've seen shadow people

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basically your whole life. I'm kind of there with you.

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I know what that is. Like, Yeah, that's just a

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bizarre thing onto itself. But with that being said, what else,

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Like what gets you towards this? You know, hosting a

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show and man, you know going out in the field

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and looking for stuff, and you know when did that

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all start?

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I mean, so it was right after twenty twenty when

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like the thought of the podcast really was birthed. A

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friend of mine had his own podcast, which he doesn't

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do anymore, stopped at episode forty two, but he had

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more of like a Joe Rogan style where he talked

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to people about anything and I and I was on

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his show twice and it was a lot of fun

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and I really enjoyed just being able to like talk

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about We just had like a com It was it

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was like we were having a conversation without recording, you

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know what I mean. Yeah, it was just a yeah,

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just just making sure that we like had a couple

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of topics that we stayed on and other than that,

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like it was just it was just a fun, regular conversation.

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think podcasts are silly. I was like, who the fuck

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wants to listen to people just talk those those stupid

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about other podcasts that he listens to and stuff like that,

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and he said, you should check it out. Blah blah

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blah blah. You know, he's like, the grid's going to

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go down soon and you got to prepare and this

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and that, And I was like, oh shit, Okay. So

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I started listening to podcasts and I got onto conspiracy podcasts,

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which I've always get a little bit conspiratorial. And then

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through conspiracy podcasts, I found some paranormal podcasts. And then

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while I'm listening to these paranormal podcasts. I was like,

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I'd love to talk to people about their experiences. I

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was like, I don't want to just sit there and

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have them go through this whole list of experiences. I

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want to be able to talk to them about it though,

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which apparently there's a ton of podcasts like that. I

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just didn't know it at the time. Yeah, so that's

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how it came about it. And you know, I called

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my buddy and I was like, I think I'm going

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to start a podcast. He's like, dude, you should. He's like,

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what is it going to be about? I was like,

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ghosts and conspiracies. He's like, I like it.

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I like it.

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It's like, what are you going to name it? I

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was like, I don't know. It has to be something

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with weird and it. And it took me a while.

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I went through like five names. I can't remember them now,

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but I would look them up to see if there's

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any other podcasts with that name, and they always were taken.

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And then I don't know how. I literally I can't

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tell you how I ended up with where the weird

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Ones Are? But I fucking and once I said it

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to myself out loud, I was like, that's the name.

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That is. It's like, I guarantee you there's no there's

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there's where the wild things are and other than that,

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that's it. And I was like, that's that's dope.

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I was like that shocking. That shocking to me that

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that you got it like that, Yeah, because it's a

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kind of a that's such a popular book, you know,

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kids book, and it was a movie and the whole thing,

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and then for someone to link it, I'm just really surprised.

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But that's awesome. It's a great man.

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Thank you now you freakin. As soon as it came

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up with the name, I made the logo and posted

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about it immediately. That way I could just kind of

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like put my put the name out there and get

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kind of like ahead of the steam. And you know,

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it took a little while. I had I had two

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my first two episodes where were friend with friends, and

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I didn't really know how to record, so they kind

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of sound like shit, but it's all right. And then

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episode three was by myself. Four and five were with

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the with the first guests that I ever had on

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that I didn't know, and I was I was so nervous,

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and you can tell by the way I'm just like,

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how's the weather down there? You know. So, but I

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eventually it grew by I think by twenty so. I

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started it in April of twenty twenty two, and then

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by November. It didn't really start picking up until November

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December when I started being a little more consistent with it.

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So it took almost a year before I really got

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my before my feet hit the ground, started running, you know.

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Right, and actually started getting traction right.

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Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It's been

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a lot of fun. The journey has been a lot

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of fun. And because of all the experiences I've had

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is what drives me to do it. You know, there's

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a few experiences that I've had throughout my life that

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have made me think that I'm absolutely a nutcase. And

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I wanted to be able to talk to people and

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let them be able to tell their stories and to

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not be felt judged and stuff like that, be able

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to get get it off their chest even if they've

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told their story one hundred times, you know, just another way,

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another avenue for people to be able to be themselves

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and you know, talk their truth and all that.

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Yeah. So, like you say that, you also talk about

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mental health. So how does that factor in for you? Like,

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where does that come from? All?

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Right?

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So when I was nine years old, I did try

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to take myself out. I was We were living with

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my grandparents. My dad was I hardly ever saw my dad.

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My parents got divorced when I was like seven, and

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it started becoming my dad. I started the seeing my

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dad became a lot less and less and less. And

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apparently when if my dad was late, my mom wouldn't

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let him take us, and I didn't know that until

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we were older. So anyways, so I'm nine years old.

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My mom's beating the shit out of me every day

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every day, but you get you know, is pretty much

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is pretty close. She fucking hated the fact that I

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look like my dad. She always told me that I

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act just like him, this and that, which today the

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trauma for my sister still lingers because anybody that ever

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says anything that links me with my dad, she gets

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so fucking offended. She's like, he's not my fucking dad

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because my mom would would say shit to me, and

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she would my mom would talk shit to me and

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literally like belittle me in front of everybody because of

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something that reminds her of my dad that I'm doing

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or something. So so, yeah, I was in my grandfather's

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shed and I decide to, you know, cut my wrist,

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and I didn't do a good job, obviously because I'm

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still here, but so I did. I did that and hurt,

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and I was like, fuck, maybe I don't want to

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do this, so I run inside it my mom. I

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fell out of a tree, and so we went and

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got patched up. Which the scar is still there. It

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used to be really white most of my life, Like,

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I spent a lot of my life being pretty tan

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because I'm always outside. I'm part native too, so that helps.

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But that that fucking scar has always been like this

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really bright white, and it's now just starting to, like

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the past two years or so, it's been harder to find.

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So I'm happy about that.

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Learned, right, Yes, it's a lesson, right, that's yeah. Anyway,

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health kids.

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Yeah, you're good.

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So I did.

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So we did that, We went, we got I got

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you know, patched up and stuff. And about a week

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after that, I'm sitting on the swing set and all

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the out of the corner of my eye, I feel

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like something is is there and I just kind of

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like slowly turned my head and there's a full figure.

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There's a there's a dude sitting next to me. He's

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in a he's in a suit. He's he's completely transparent.

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He's almost kind of wispy like, looking like really close

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to how ghosts are depicted in movies, I guess. But

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I can see right through him. But I can tell

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he's wearing a suit, and it's not like a formal suit.

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It's like I go to the office suit. But I

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can't see his face. His face is all distorted and whatnot.

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And I don't know what it was. And I tried

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to remember as hard as I can. But he had

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something in his hands, and the best way that I

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can describe it is there, either he was grabbing a

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noodles out of a bowl, so he had a bowl

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of noodles and he was trying to eat the noodles,

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or he was knitting something and it was just like

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a bunch of yarm whatever it was, it was long

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and stringy, and it was in his lap and he

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was doing something like this and he just turned his

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head like that whatever had he had, which I couldn't tell,

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and I'm staring at him. He's staring I'm assuming he's

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staring at me anyway, and I just hear him say

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be patient, and I'm like, uh about what, and he's like,

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you'll know, and then he just like continues doing whatever

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he's doing and I put my head down. I'm holding

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onto the chain of the swing and I'm just staring

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what probably felt like forever and was I mean, it

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felt like forever, but it was probably only like a

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minute maybe less. And finally I get this like the

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confidence to turn my head again, and I turned my

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head and he's gone. It was like it was almost

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like sleep paralysis. Like I felt like like I wanted

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to get up and move, but I couldn't, Like what

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the yeah, And once I really as he was gone,

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I was just like I was immediately out of a

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swing and I ran inside. I was like fuck that,

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and like, so with that experience, it was right after

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I tried to kill myself and him telling me to

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be patient, like I just realized, like, because patience is

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a virtue, the the more patients that you the more

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patience that you can attribute to yourself, the better off

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you'll be because not everything happens at once. And we're

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in a society now of what's the word instant gratification.

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Everything is so quick and not everything is meant to

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be that way, So when people don't feel get that

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immediate like praise or whatever. Like like my podcast, my

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podcast took forever to gain the traction that it that

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it gained, and patients played a big role in that.

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And mainly I didn't care, you know what I mean,

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Like I did not care about numbers for my podcast.

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I was like, whatever happens, happens. But patience in the

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way that I parent, I think has been a good thing,

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just kind of like destroying that generational trauma because my

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mom was never has never been a patient person. It

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was just like fly off the handle right away and

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stuff like that. My dad is super complacent. But I

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just feel like mental health is so important, especially when

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you experience these things because you're thinking, you're sitting here

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thinking you're crazy for seeing this thing, and I did.

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I thought, I was like, what the fuck did I

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just see? And I just you know, in the moment,

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nine years old, I'm like, well, if i'm patient, maybe

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my mom will stop hitting me. If I'm patient, I

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can my mom. I can get my mom to get

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me some fucking candy year or something, or I'll be

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She'll let me play games on the computer because and

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that like around nine ten years old, that's when they

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started coming out with like NFL, like Madden or whatever.

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I don't think it was Madden, but it was some

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kind of football game on the computer, and I loved

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playing that for like Windows ninety five. It was like

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ninety seven I think when I was when I tried that.

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So but yeah, I just think it's important for people

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to take care of their mental health, especially when they

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experience these things. So that's I try and talk about

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it as much as possible. You know, I've had I've

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had a few people kind of open up to me

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because of my experience and they'll tell me that, you know,

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they've tried to and things that came about through that

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experience and stuff like that. So yeah, I think is

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really important to make sure that you know, we're okay mentally.

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Agreed, especially as men and fathers, especially in this day

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and age, in this culture. It's a little twisting, man.

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I'm I'm there with you. I'm a veteran as well,

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and there's all that shit plus childhood trauma. I'm a

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survivor as well, my friend. So I get it. You know,

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I think that if we talk about it, it makes

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it real, and if we talk about it, then other

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people will talk about it. And you know, it's not

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competitive victimhood. It just needs to be talked about and

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a lot of times it's just not and it's a problem.

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It's a thing, right, This is it's just like diabetes

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or any other something. You know, mental health is what

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makes this all work. So you don't have good mental health,

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then you know, what's the point.

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So you end up stabbing some random woman on a bus?

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Does that makes sense?

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Yeah, after you've been arrested twelve times already. Yeah, Like like, oh,

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I was just explaining this to my to my wife,

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I said, this is one of those things where back

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in the forties, thirty, the twenties, thirty forties, fifties, sixties,

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even you didn't have a lot of these random I

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mean there was still violence, right, but it was different

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because people would be in a state hospital. That's when

467
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they had these things. And it's sad that we either

468
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.519
have to put people in jail or in a state hospital,

469
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:56.519
but you know that these are the this is, this

470
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.240
is what happened to people back then, and I don't

471
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.079
I'm not here to judge whether it's a good or

472
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.480
bad or whatever, but I know it's better than an

473
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.960
innocent woman getting stabbed on a subway or on a

474
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.039
bus or a subway.

475
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.200
It was it was a subway, right, so yeah, yeah,

476
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.279
I think it was a subway.

477
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:19.359
Yeah. And Charlotte, so I mean for nothing, literally.

478
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.680
Nothing, So she just sat down in front of him,

479
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:21.960
that's all.

480
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.880
Yeah, and then stabbed and you know, guy literally had

481
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.559
been in jail I think two days prior, right, something

482
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:37.200
like that, and then the complacency of the media and

483
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.640
the powers that be that let it happen and don't

484
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.480
talk about it. It's like, bro, so what are what

485
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.000
are guys like us supposed to do? We're gonna bring

486
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.000
light to it and we're gonna you know, this is

487
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.200
this is all the conspiracy stuff starts getting you start

488
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.119
going down that corkscrew, right.

489
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.799
Yeah. This is why I think the Second Amendment is

490
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:02.119
so important. I mean, even no matter where you are,

491
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.160
you like, I can guarantee you if every if every

492
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.920
law abiding citizen had a gun, there'd be a lot

493
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.279
less crime like everywhere, like everywhere you go you have

494
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:21.279
in schools. If you know, the people were or fucking strapped, freaking,

495
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.200
there wouldn't be school shooting, guarantee it. People in the bank,

496
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.400
everybody had a gun on their hip. Yeah, we wouldn't

497
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:30.480
have bank robberies, you know.

498
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.000
I mean, now it's like a badge of honor for

499
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.920
some of these folks. Is like, oh, gun free zone,

500
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.599
gun free zone. Well, this is where I'm coming. If

501
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:40.680
I want to rob people or kill people, then I'm

502
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.960
going to a gun free zone. Thank you, thanks for

503
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:47.279
telling me. Welcome, welcome, have fun like you better, you

504
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.000
might as well just have a you know, I mean

505
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.799
where I live and I live in New York, I'm

506
00:29:54.039 --> 00:30:00.519
thankful we have actual officers that are armed in our schools,

507
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.119
which is which is nice and surprising considering we're in

508
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:09.079
New York. But yeah, I you know, it's one of

509
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:14.480
those things like you know, I yeah, I mean, we

510
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.599
can go down all kinds of rabbit holes of that ship,

511
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.400
but uh it really could. At the end of the day.

512
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.279
It's just I think that we just have to do

513
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.160
better and use use our brains and in common sense

514
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:33.559
instead of instead of trying to uh be you know, yeah,

515
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.799
I don't even know. It's just you know, it's crazy,

516
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.680
so trying to be all politically correct about it is

517
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:47.519
just nonsense. And I'm sorry, but if you're worried about

518
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:54.640
getting on public and just like today, my daughter got

519
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.119
sucked with at school. She's just trying to go to

520
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.720
school and learn how to be a beautician, right, learn

521
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:10.119
how to do cosmetology, and random girls just start beef

522
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.440
for no reason. And she's just this little sweet girl

523
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.920
who doesn't say shit to anybody. And like these two girl,

524
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.480
three girls, I want to start shit with her and

525
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.960
her cousin and they're just like, no, we're getting on

526
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.279
the bus, have a nice day. But like, what the fuck,

527
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:34.480
like you didn't. I just don't understand it. I don't

528
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:34.759
get it.

529
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:41.359
So either it worries me for you know, my daughter,

530
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:46.559
especially seeing videos nowadays of full grown men hauling off

531
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.039
and like I mean, yes, some videos they're you know,

532
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:54.759
they're the guys don't swing until the woman's hit has

533
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.279
been hitting them a few times. But there's a lot

534
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.599
of just random I'm gonna smack a bitch fuck videos.

535
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.400
Yeah, Like I just like waiting for it, like they're

536
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.599
just waiting for the opportunity and out of nowhere.

537
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:06.640
You know.

538
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.640
That's not just women though, it's anybody. It's true. And

539
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.599
it's kind of like the incident in Cleveland that a

540
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.599
lot of people got in trouble for. It's like all

541
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.519
of a sudden, it's like this fucking world star culture,

542
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.000
uh just kicks off and it's like, dude, what in

543
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.160
the fuck are you doing? Like it doesn't make any

544
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.160
sense to me. I mean, I I got into a

545
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.799
lot of fights as a kid. I just did. But

546
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.880
but it was for me. It was I never got

547
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.319
into a fight that I started. Ever, I finished a

548
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.759
lot and I got my ass kicked funny, but it

549
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.839
was one of those things like it just got to

550
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.240
a point where I would just knock a motherfucker out

551
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.400
like that's it. Like I'm not talking, I'm not wrestling,

552
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.680
I'm just gonna knock you out like that's it. That's

553
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.680
how I got in the military too. And I think

554
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.200
if more people were like that or it was just

555
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.079
no nonsense, like no, we're not going to have a

556
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.400
conversation about this, leave me alone. And if you don't,

557
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:15.920
there's consequences to that. Yeah, And whether that's you know,

558
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.599
whether that's just an actual fistfight between men or women

559
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.759
or whatever, or you pull a gun or you pull

560
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.680
a knife and I pull a gun, and that's not

561
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:33.920
going to end up well for you probably, So no,

562
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:39.720
not usually, you know. I sorry.

563
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.359
Anyway, I used to get into a lot of fights too.

564
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.680
I was such an angry kid through high school.

565
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400
And well, I think you had reason for it, my friend.

566
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.920
Well, and it was. I ended up doing cage fighting

567
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:02.839
for a little bit too. And then my son, my

568
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:04.839
ex wife ended up pregnant with my son, and I

569
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.159
was like, I should probably do something that makes me money,

570
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.440
you know. Yeah, fighting kind of did it. I made

571
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.960
a little bit of money. A lot of times. I

572
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.559
would kind of like have just enough for groceries after

573
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.719
spending money on the hotels and yeah, and the trainers

574
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.119
and stuff like that. And then I was just like,

575
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:26.960
what the fuck am I doing with my life. I'm

576
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.960
not gonna be famous. I know, I'm not going to

577
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.199
end up in the UFC. Yeah, I mean maybe after

578
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.239
like five maybe ten more years, I have those jews

579
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:37.719
and all that.

580
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:38.320
Yeah.

581
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.760
Yeah, by the time I'm like twenty eight years old,

582
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.760
I'm finally fucking making money in the USC. My son's

583
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.280
ten years old. And fucking doesn't know who daddy is

584
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.599
because daddy didn't wasn't making fucking money.

585
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.880
Yeah, and who knows, man, he could end up at

586
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.239
the point where you're one of these guys that's drooling

587
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.960
on himself. That too, It's always a possibility. I mean,

588
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.679
and I know more than one guy that went from

589
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:10.960
here to here and now, Wow, like that shit does damage.

590
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:15.360
It really does, it really does. And you know, I'm glad.

591
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.320
I'm glad I didn't go down. It would have been

592
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.599
cool at the same time, but I'm you know, I'm

593
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.000
glad I didn't stick with it, and I you know,

594
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.199
I chose to provide for my family in the moment.

595
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.280
You know, I was supporting my supporting my ex wife,

596
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.079
my kid, and myself up with twelve dollars and fifty

597
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.719
cents an hour in two thousand and eight. I can't,

598
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.519
I can I make way more than that now. And

599
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:46.079
it's harder. It's almost the same, right, Yeah, it's almost

600
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.400
the same. I'm still struggling.

601
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.360
It's called inflation, my friend. It's the same. It's all

602
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.199
the same. It's it's you're not even making more. You're

603
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.039
probably making equivalent.

604
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.159
Probably in all actuality, probably.

605
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.519
I remember my first job, I was making four fifteen

606
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:06.960
an hour. I'm substantially older than you. I just aged myself.

607
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.199
I grew up in Connecticut and my first job I

608
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:17.239
worked in Norwalk, Connecticut and four hours and fifteen cents

609
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.599
an hour. Yeah, that's why that was my first legit job.

610
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.760
Now I did all the other crap, you know, the lawnmowing,

611
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.920
all the chit, you know, all the hustle stuff as

612
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.719
a kid, paper route, the whole thing. Four fifteen an hour.

613
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.599
And I remember when minimum wage went up to like

614
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.079
seven something, I was like, oh my god, I'm so rich,

615
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.000
you know, yeah, it's crazy. But this was also when

616
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.639
when I was four fifteen an hour, you could also

617
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.280
get a tank of gas for under ninety nine cents.

618
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.719
It was like, you know, eighty nine cents ninety cents

619
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.039
a gallon. I mean, you could get a pack of

620
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:02.079
cigarettes for a buck. Now matter what like eight nine

621
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.039
ten dollars a pack. I don't know something. Ice quit

622
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.480
smoking twenty years ago, but damn.

623
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.239
Yeah, I couldn't tell you the actual price of cigarettes either.

624
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.360
But I remember in high school, gas prices were a

625
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.840
dollar thirty eight and they fluctuated between like a dollar

626
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.239
thirty eight to like a dollar fifty, So you could

627
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.119
give your buddy five dollars in and.

628
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:27.679
That's in New England too, right, so, which it's always

629
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:28.360
a little higher.

630
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.760
Yeah, So I could give my buddy five dollars for

631
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.079
gas to bring me somewhere. You know, I'd be like, yeah,

632
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:39.960
five dollars gas. Now it's like, give me dollars of

633
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:40.880
gas and I'll bring it.

634
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:49.519
Yeah, man, absolutely, just insane. Yeah, God, I mean gas

635
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.119
here is shocking that it's actually what it is. It's

636
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.280
I'm looking at it like it's low and it's too

637
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.880
I think it was too ninety today I could get yeah,

638
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:04.360
good lord.

639
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:10.559
Oh man, what was it like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

640
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.800
ish area, it was like who thirty and I was like, wow,

641
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.320
this is amazing. Yeah, exactly, because the years prior to

642
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.800
that it was like freaking four dollars. I was like,

643
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:22.400
what the fuck?

644
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.199
So well times ago, bye, man, And we're getting old,

645
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:31.440
we're not getting any younger.

646
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.360
So that's true, that's true. I'm getting ready for a

647
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:40.239
high rocks competition and I realized that, you know, my

648
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.639
body can't do things that it used to do. And

649
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.599
you know, I've never really spent a whole lot of

650
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.679
time out of the gym, but I've never focused on

651
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.800
like mobility stretching, you know what I mean. So now

652
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.320
I got a trainer and she's twenty six, and she's

653
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.199
like fucking telling me all this, and she's showing me

654
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.239
how to like do certain movements. And I was like, well,

655
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:05.519
you can do You're like twenty. When I was twenty six,

656
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:11.559
I could do that, no fucking problem too. But yeah,

657
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.280
so I got a freaking there's there's an issue with

658
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.480
my back right now. When I do lunges or when

659
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.039
I do dead lifts, that it just it just burns,

660
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.400
and it feels like there's a heartbeat in my back.

661
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.599
It's just like wow.

662
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.800
Just I'm like yeah, and I'm like, what the hell

663
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.760
is going on? And so then I'm like walking around

664
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.800
like this. I was like, dude, I'm gonna turn into

665
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.559
my dad because my dad kind of like walks hunched over.

666
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.559
And I guarantee you, like ten fifteen years from now,

667
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.559
he's gonna be like fucking in a wheelchair or something.

668
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.119
I don't think that's how I'm walking right now. I'm

669
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.679
all like, yeah, it's awful.

670
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:54.719
Yeah, Yeah, I noticed the the issues that can cause

671
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.960
all of that. So I've been I'll try and sit

672
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.679
straight for a little bit, but then eventually just be comfortable.

673
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.159
I'll send up slowly slouching, but then I'll fix it.

674
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.880
And it sucks when you when you do a job

675
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.880
where you sit for twelve thirteen hours a day. So

676
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.960
that I think that that was really when the pain

677
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.280
really started is once I had got the job that, uh,

678
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.679
the driving job that I have, and I'm sitting down.

679
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.960
And yeah, and it's not like you can get up

680
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.559
and walk around, you know.

681
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:32.760
Yeah, yeah, not while you're driving, no, so but yeah,

682
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:37.719
so yeah, back to the original point, mental health is

683
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.440
very important when inflation is getting this crazy, like you've

684
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.119
got to have some kind of way to level yourself out.

685
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.840
Yeah, man, for sure. No, I just think it's awesome

686
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.880
that guy that that there's you know, there's not a

687
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.280
ton of us, but there's a few guys, especially in

688
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.480
our little crew, that talk about mental health pretty regularly.

689
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.719
So I think birds of a feather flock together a

690
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:06.559
little bit when it comes to that stuff. So it's

691
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:13.039
pretty cool, absolutely. So heading back out, tell us about

692
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.679
tell us about some experiences man, like that you've had like,

693
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:21.519
let's go out in the woods now.

694
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.960
All right. Well, my first out in the woods thing

695
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.159
that I was ten, It was literally a year after

696
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:35.159
the experience that I just told you. Now, this is

697
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.559
another reason why I talk about mental health, because I

698
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:43.280
feel absolutely skitzo for this. But me and my sister

699
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.480
we used to run out in the woods and pretend

700
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.400
that we are hunting aliens or monsters or whatever we missed.

701
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.639
One particular day, there was a light dusting of snow

702
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.400
and there was a squirrel or rabbit tracks and I

703
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.000
was like, just a fucking alien, let's go get it.

704
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.679
My sister's like yeah. He jumps off our bike and

705
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.880
we run out into the woods and we're chasing that

706
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.880
where we're following these tracks and there's a little creek

707
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.679
and I used to play in this creek all the time.

708
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:11.320
It is right in between two houses and the woods

709
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.360
in between them. They went on forever. But we're coming

710
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.760
up to this creek and all of a sudden, I

711
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.079
just see like blue everything. It's almost like like that

712
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.360
the way my screen is right now. It looks like

713
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:31.239
everything's bluish, and I'm like, what the hell? And then

714
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.159
like right in front of me, about ten yards there's

715
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.440
this little village of mushroom people, and I'm like, what

716
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:42.639
the hell is this? And there there's you know, they

717
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:44.960
got little mushroom huts like their smurfs or whatever.

718
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.800
So they were like so that their houses and stuff

719
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:49.519
were mushrooms.

720
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:54.320
There they were mushrooms. They were little mushrooms. Okay, they

721
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.880
didn't look like people. They didn't have faces, they didn't

722
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.079
have eyes. They had like these little stubs coming out

723
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.199
of their little step. But other than that, that was

724
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.719
the only thing that the fact that they had these

725
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.480
little things that looked like arms, and they were all

726
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.159
carrying like these little sticks, like these little twigs, and

727
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.639
they were throwing them into this big fire that was

728
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.880
in the center of their village. That's the only way

729
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.199
that I could say that they resembled people was because

730
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.360
they were they were walking, but they didn't have legs,

731
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.599
like they were just kind of like moving, and they

732
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.559
had these little stubs for arms. But they like they

733
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:33.840
stopped and they turned like this, and I assume again

734
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.159
like they were looking at me, but there was there

735
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.559
was literally like no eyes, no way to tell that

736
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.599
they were they were looking, and they just they were

737
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.679
like three inches tall. It looked like normal mushrooms you

738
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.800
see outside. And I get a tap on the back

739
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:52.840
of my head and I was wearing I wore glasses

740
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.480
at this time, and my glasses fell off my face.

741
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:58.920
And it wasn't like a hard tip tip. It was

742
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.119
just like it was almost like somebody put their hand

743
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.360
on the back of your head and just pushed your head,

744
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.800
you know, not like they were smashing your head. So

745
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.000
my head went like that, and my glasses fell off,

746
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.960
and I feel something on my shoulder and I turned

747
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.239
my head and there's a mushroom on my shoulder, and

748
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.920
telepathically it said you don't need those. And I was like,

749
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.039
are you talking about my glasses? And it says yes.

750
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.119
And then as soon as I said yes, they went gone.

751
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.920
It was gone. The mushroom was gone. Nothing was bluish.

752
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.719
And I looked over the village was gone, and my

753
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.559
sister's standing there and she's like, are you right. I

754
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:39.960
was like, yeah, I lost my glasses and she goes, oh, no,

755
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:41.840
where are they? And I was like, oh no, And

756
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:43.880
I'm looking down on the ground. I can't see them

757
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:45.800
in front of me. And my sister comes over and

758
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.079
she's looking. She walks right in front of me. She's

759
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.239
like where and you just hear crunch and we're like,

760
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.440
oh no, my glasses. So as soon as my glasses

761
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.760
were broken, immediately the experience was gone out of my

762
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.960
head and I grabbed my I picked up my glasses.

763
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.000
I ran home and I told my mom about my

764
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.360
broken glasses and she's like, well, you have an appointment

765
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.599
coming up in a couple of weeks. I'm not going

766
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.760
to get you a new pair because if your prescription changes,

767
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.559
then I'm gonna have to get you another pair rade

768
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.440
after and I just don't have the money for that.

769
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.760
So I went a couple of weeks without without glasses,

770
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.360
and then we went to We finally get to my

771
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.039
appointment and you know, they did the test and I'm

772
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.880
sitting there and the doctor's reading over all the notes

773
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.360
and stuff. And back then they had these little swivel

774
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.800
stools and he's sitting there and he just like swivels

775
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.719
around and looks at me. He goes, you got twenty

776
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:46.719
twenty vision. And we're like, well, like literally, me and

777
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:47.960
my mom were like what the fuck.

778
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:54.599
And he's like, yeahellow mushroom told me yeah.

779
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.960
My mom goes, so he doesn't need glasses, and she goes, well,

780
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.360
I mean I would probably wear them for like when

781
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:07.400
he watches TV, when he reads and writes and stuff

782
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.280
other than that, like, I don't see any reason for

783
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.880
him to wear I'm twenty four seven or anything like that. Oh,

784
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.840
and my mom's like, okay, well I'm not getting you

785
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.480
glasses and we went home and I haven't wore glasses

786
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:24.079
ever since. And uh so I so I will say

787
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.360
that I don't remember this experience organically. I remember going

788
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.199
to the doctor after my glasses broke, but I don't

789
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.400
remember the mushrooms. So I found out about the mushrooms

790
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.480
through a regression therapy, and my regression therapist was like,

791
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.639
you know, well, maybe it was a dream and you

792
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:43.000
just remember. Well. I was like that if the mushroom's

793
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.000
telling me I don't need glasses, and then all of

794
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.519
a sudden, I find out that I don't need glasses.

795
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.280
When he kind of like got smacked in the back

796
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.800
of that not smacked, but like it's almost like like

797
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.320
something did that right? Maybe yeah?

798
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.639
Yeah, And my sister remembers being out in the woods

799
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.119
and me like she's she's like, I don't really remember it,

800
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.199
per se because it didn't affect me in my life,

801
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.039
like obviously it had an effect on you.

802
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.840
So she didn't see any mushrooms, right, Yeah.

803
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.079
So she's like, she's like, I've been in the woods

804
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.159
plenty of times, and she's I remember breaking your glasses.

805
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.000
I don't. She's like, I can't say that, and there

806
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.159
was anything weird about it, but she's like, other than that,

807
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.000
she's like I can. Like, she's like, I remember you

808
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.960
kind of like standing there. I just assumed that you

809
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.199
were pretending you were seeing an alien and then you

810
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:34.920
looked at me and I was like, are you okay,

811
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:36.639
and you were like, yeah, my glasses.

812
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:42.559
Yeah, I just took some mushrooms. Awesome mushrooms, Like, Dad,

813
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:48.119
that's crazy. That's a good story though. Well yeah, I'm

814
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.079
really I like the whole fact that there was that,

815
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.960
like there's something to it, right, Yeah, the glasses got

816
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.360
knocked off and it's right there, like you don't need those,

817
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.920
Well thanks, mister mushroom exactly.

818
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.840
I want to see them again so bad because I

819
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.320
want to be able to ask them again. Who knows

820
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:12.519
if they would be like the same village, but I

821
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.159
would like try to ask them. I didn't I took

822
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.360
my girlfriend out to the spot that I saw them

823
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.079
at too, and I was like, that's where I saw

824
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.000
the mushroom people. And I remember when I was a kid,

825
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.199
I remember it being further into the woods, but it

826
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:27.840
wasn't very.

827
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:32.159
Far, right. Yeah, everything's always farther and bigger when you

828
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:32.599
were a kid.

829
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:40.519
Yeah, that's yes, that's true. And I have two other

830
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.639
ones that I both of them when I was an

831
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:48.599
adult out in Shapily, Maine. If you're familiar with Shappily

832
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:53.480
at all, it's nothing but woods. So one of them,

833
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.599
the first one, my ex wife and I we were

834
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:03.079
still together, and I was coming home and there's a drop,

835
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.039
like it's like a valley, so there's a drop and

836
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:07.800
then a rise and then my house is right there,

837
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.400
and there's a big farm right there too, and I

838
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.599
see this dog coming across the well. I see it.

839
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:17.039
It's a coyote coming across the road and it's huge,

840
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.880
it's like wolf size. And I was and it was clean,

841
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.960
and I was like, this is a weird looking coyote.

842
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:25.800
I was like, I've never seen a coyote as big

843
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.000
as as somebody's dog. It's like, that's a weird looking dog.

844
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.679
I've never seen a dog that looked like a coyote before.

845
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.079
And I know, like huskies and those kinds of arades,

846
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.800
German shepherds and stuff like that, but this was like

847
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:45.199
coyote colors. It wasn't German shepherd colors or anything like that.

848
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.519
It was like literally sandy brown all over. And hit

849
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:52.920
stopped in the middle of the road, so I had

850
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.880
to stop, and it stared at me, and it was

851
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.679
like two minutes of just him like him and I

852
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.960
eye contact, and I was like, this is really fucking

853
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:06.800
weird right now. And then it finally walked into the woods,

854
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.440
so I drove up to where it walked in the woods.

855
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.639
I turned my head and I'm watching it just kind

856
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:13.360
of like walk through the woods and there's a little

857
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.559
bit of an incline, and on the other side of

858
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.960
that incline is like a straight drop and it goes

859
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:22.480
down towards the river. And it stopped before it started

860
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.320
to make that little bit of a climb, and it

861
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.400
turned and it stared at me again, and I was like, WHOA,

862
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.159
this is weird. It knows that I'm watching him. And

863
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.400
then a couple more seconds later it was just like

864
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.880
all right, whatever, you're gonna see some shit. And it

865
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:43.960
started climbing up this little embankment and it's paw, I

866
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.119
swear to god. I mean it could be a fig

867
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:51.000
mine on my imagination, I'm willing to say that, but

868
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.400
who knows, maybe it was also real. But this huge

869
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.760
pine tree, and it just kind of like reaches its

870
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.320
paw out like it was a person walking regularly like

871
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.559
a dog. And then it reaches it reaches out with

872
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:07.079
its front paw like it's a person to prop itself

873
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.599
so it can go over this embankment like to the side,

874
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.239
so like it would like it like a person would

875
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.039
with this back leg, and it's paw turned into a

876
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.800
hand like a human hand and gripped onto this tree

877
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.880
and went over the bankment and disappeared. I was just like,

878
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.599
holy shit. And I finished the drive home. I went

879
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.639
inside and I was my ex wife was doing the dishes.

880
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:33.920
I was like, you never guess what I saw. She's like,

881
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:35.760
what did you see? I was like a kyote. She's

882
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.320
like in broad daylight. I was like, yeah, but that's

883
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.400
not the fucking strangest thing. It's it's paw turned into

884
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:42.039
a human hand.

885
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:47.199
She's like, you're retarded, and I was like, no, I

886
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.079
swear to God, so I don't. I don't know, like

887
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:55.920
maybe like the lights and the the shadows and stuff

888
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.760
played tricks on me. But either way, either way, the

889
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.960
way it went over the embankment was strange. Even if

890
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:05.480
the hand, even if it's pod didn't actually turn into

891
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.840
a human hand, the way that it went over that

892
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.159
embankment was a weird way for a canine.

893
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.400
I just I'm actually looking on my phone. I had

894
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.360
just read an article I really wish I remember I

895
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:25.599
read too much about a and I swear it was

896
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:32.199
in Maine. But a sighting of a hyena, you know what,

897
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:33.119
like a hyena.

898
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:34.800
I heard of that too.

899
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.320
I did an episode on a heen as in in America.

900
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.280
And there's a lot of a lot of lore about this,

901
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.599
Yes there is. I swear it was in Maine, but

902
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.480
I can't verify that right now. But anyway, so, yeah,

903
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.559
that's wild man. I mean, you guys have you guys

904
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.559
do have wolves up there? Now? Yeah?

905
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.599
Yeah, And we have we and we we have coyotes,

906
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.400
which of course, like yeah, the but they're usually a

907
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.199
lot a lot smaller than the one that I saw,

908
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.360
and they were always in my yard anyway. Yeah, so

909
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.559
I always either like every day or not every day,

910
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:19.679
but pretty close to every every night, there would be

911
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.559
like two or three coyotes in my yard. Yeah, and

912
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.679
I would hear them and my dogs would flip out.

913
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.039
I mean, I live in suburbian. I see every once

914
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.440
in a while, I'll see a coyote trot by in

915
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.679
my back in the back of my property here.

916
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.239
Yeah. The only other thing that I could think of

917
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.400
is maybe like a wolf decided to have its way

918
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:42.000
with a coyote one day, like.

919
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.559
A coy dog or whatever they want to call them, Like,

920
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.840
you know, I know we have them here where. They're

921
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.199
just big ass coyotes. Yeah, because they're mixed right.

922
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.360
Yeah right, so right, so I mean very well could

923
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.800
have been somebody's dog, you know.

924
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.760
For you, did you go into Operation Smoke? Were you

925
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:02.280
part of that?

926
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:08.519
Yep? Yeah, that was that was an interesting time.

927
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.159
Yeah for sure. Can you tell me about your encounter

928
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:18.000
or your recollection? Yeah, as you would say it. I've

929
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:23.480
heard uh Riley's, I've heard docs, I've heard Drew Skis,

930
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.599
I've heard Harley's. Now you.

931
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.960
Right, so I took my dog down with me, my dog, Rizzo,

932
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:39.199
she's a Staffordshire bull Terrier. She's an amazing dog. But

933
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.800
I mainly brought her because I knew we were going

934
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.440
to be out in the middle of nowhere and if

935
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:45.519
something was going to sneak up on me, she would

936
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:45.920
let me know.

937
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.000
Yeah, because you guys were in the middle of nowhere

938
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:50.480
for sure.

939
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:55.480
Yeah, we were. We were pretty deep out there. I

940
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.159
didn't know what to expect really, Uh, you know, I

941
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:04.679
want to boolly, I want wanted to believe, and now

942
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:13.239
I do for sure. So the first night, it wasn't

943
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.480
really a whole lot, like a couple of guys had

944
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.280
a lot more experiences than I did. But we were walking.

945
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:21.480
We were it was a group of four of us.

946
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:24.920
We're walking through the trail in the middle of the night,

947
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:31.199
and I just remember hearing this like like following us,

948
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.000
like in this low guttural like growl. But at the

949
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.360
same time, I could hear an airplane going over us,

950
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:42.400
And I'm like, is that like an echo from the airplaneberation? Yeah,

951
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.599
So I'm just I'm and I continue walking. But it

952
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.039
was like still like a constant rumble, and it's never

953
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.519
like changed. It never started getting lighter or heavier or

954
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.480
anything like that it stayed consistent, and it was like

955
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.760
it was almost like it was pacing us out or

956
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.199
well in like it's just like staying right there at

957
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:06.280
the same volume level too, like just staying the same

958
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.920
And I'm just like, and I keep flashing my light

959
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.320
over to the direction that I think that I'm hearing

960
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.920
it from, and I'm just like, I don't see anything

961
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.800
down there, but that's kind of crazy. And I know

962
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.159
there's bears out there, but they're black bears, and black

963
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:23.559
bears don't get that big, and and and yes, and

964
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:30.320
that too, especially like that. So that was that was

965
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.079
nerve wracking the whole time we're walking out there. And

966
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:36.519
then when it stopped, we ended up going off off

967
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.840
into this like little like foot trail. Like it's not

968
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.480
like a permanent trail. It's just like some couple of

969
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.360
people walk through it, and it just became like this

970
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:48.800
little tiny like trails. So we're walking through there and

971
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.119
we hear something walking in the woods not too far

972
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.239
from us, and we stop and we're all we shut

973
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.679
all of our lights off when we're listening, and then

974
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.000
we turn our lights off after like five minutes because

975
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.880
we can't hear it, hear it walking anymore. And then

976
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:12.559
one of the guys got something blue air in his

977
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.199
ear and he flipped out and he's like, something just

978
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:17.239
blue air in my ear?

979
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.280
What the fuck was that?

980
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:23.519
And the fricking guy next to him heard the in

981
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:24.000
his ear.

982
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:24.760
Wow.

983
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.440
Like, so one guy felt it and the other guy

984
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.280
right next to him heard it, and we're all like,

985
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:32.480
what the fuck. And then it started kind of like

986
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.159
drizzling a little bit. So on the radio, it's like, hey, guys,

987
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.440
because we're all connected by radio. We had base camp

988
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.599
the other group in the US, and I'm on the

989
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.199
radio and I said, it's starting to rain. It's gonna

990
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.079
be a lot harder to hear anything out here if

991
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.960
we're being paced or anything like that. And then Jessica

992
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.639
Jones came back on the radio. She goes, yeah, we're

993
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.679
heading back. We're hearing a lot of owl noises that

994
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.400
are probably not owls. And I'm like, oh shit, okay,

995
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.480
So I looked at the other guys like where I

996
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.360
guess we're going back. So we start heading back and

997
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:09.159
it starts wrenchal downpouring, and so we start picking up pace.

998
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.360
And then as we're picking up pace, we hear in

999
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.519
the woods from that direction that I was hearing the

1000
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:20.760
growls we hear, you know, I was like, what. So

1001
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.079
that night was crazy, but we were able to make

1002
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:28.039
it back to camp and one of the guys won.

1003
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.119
He accidentally as we're trying to the four of us

1004
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.280
are trying to get back into camp, he accidentally sets

1005
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:38.119
off the trip alarm and it was just this big explosion.

1006
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.719
It was just like a flash bang, and so that

1007
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.880
fucking hurt my ears and my eyeballs, but it was

1008
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.840
hilarious at the same time. But the rest of the

1009
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.440
night was pretty uneventful. Riley was telling me about because

1010
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.920
Riley stayed at the base camp and he's telling me

1011
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:02.400
all these wild noises. But night two was when it

1012
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.920
got really crazy. When Doc showed up. Jessica Jones had

1013
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.800
to go home, and I really wish she was still

1014
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:15.559
there to to share these these experiences. But we took

1015
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.760
a day hike out into a different part of the woods,

1016
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:25.199
and Harley's showing us all these like bent over trees

1017
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:30.000
that shouldn't be bent over and all this stuff, and

1018
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.239
some of them I could I could I could be

1019
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.800
like I could tell like maybe it wasn't But there

1020
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.719
was a structure that was built right, and it like

1021
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:43.599
in cased like this little section and it was literally

1022
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.440
like trees falling over, but right in the center was

1023
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.280
it was almost like a it was like a house

1024
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:52.599
kind of looking thing. Yeah, and I was like, that's weird.

1025
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.199
And Harley's like, this is definitely like they probably sleep

1026
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.400
in here or something like that, or they just or

1027
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.000
they just build it. And I don't know why they

1028
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:05.840
don't really have like much of a roof to them,

1029
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:07.000
A lot of them.

1030
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:12.559
A lot of the structures. It's like why, it doesn't

1031
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:13.400
make sense to me.

1032
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:18.079
But yeah, so we found we found an uprooted tree

1033
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:24.079
that was the hole was like ten feet away from

1034
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.519
the root ball, so that wast and that was a

1035
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.840
part of this structure. And then we found this old

1036
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.000
hog pen, and you know, Drew had this like idea.

1037
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.239
He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna bait I'm gonna I'm

1038
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:41.440
gonna make a thing a bait to try and bait

1039
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.079
these things in, and I'm gonna put it on that

1040
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.119
hog pen and we'll just find like a spot, you know,

1041
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.280
a little ways from them, and keep the infra infra

1042
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:53.239
red camera on it and all that stuff. So that's

1043
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.960
what we did. We went out there that night and

1044
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.880
we're out there and I'm freaking dude, I'm here and screw.

1045
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.079
We put the bait down. We put the the glow

1046
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.199
stick next to the bait so we could see if

1047
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.199
something fucks with it. And we're sitting We're all sitting

1048
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:14.400
a little ways away. Harley has the infrared camera and

1049
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.960
I'm hearing screams behind us, and I'm hearing screams in

1050
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:22.079
front of us. They're almost like whoops but not quite yep.

1051
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.639
And they were extremely loud, and they would take they

1052
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:30.519
would take turns, and I like, I tok, I pulled

1053
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:32.480
my gun out and I'm just like, dude, there's something

1054
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.159
out here. And we the whole time that night as

1055
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:37.559
we were walking out there, there was something pacing us.

1056
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.480
Guys at the base camp were hearing a cat, like

1057
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.880
a big cat. And when the two of them ended

1058
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.079
up coming in later and they were being paced in

1059
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:53.519
two and we kept catching on the infrared camera like

1060
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:58.159
figures up on this ridge, but we couldn't tell.

1061
01:01:58.039 --> 01:01:58.880
What it was.

1062
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.679
And there was one point where I saw like a

1063
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:07.800
red beam, like a red ball out to my left

1064
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.599
and Drew is right on my other side, to my right,

1065
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.639
and I'm like, hey, I was like, do you have

1066
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:14.760
a laser on that gun?

1067
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:15.880
And he goes yeah.

1068
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.039
Why. I was like, I was like, don't fucking flash

1069
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.639
your laser and he's like I didn't. I go, isn't

1070
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.119
your laser's red, right, and he goes, no, it's fucking green.

1071
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.280
I go what I was like, I'm seeing this red

1072
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:28.840
ball over here, like a ball of light, yeah, like

1073
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:34.039
an orb and and it was tiny, so that's why

1074
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.159
I thought it was his his laser. And I only

1075
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:41.639
saw it once, but like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what

1076
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:45.800
I was thinking. And then right after I said that,

1077
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:49.719
we're still, I get we get one last scream behind us,

1078
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:53.559
and I had stood up and I pulled my gun

1079
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:55.639
out and I fucking aimed it, and I'm just like,

1080
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.800
whatever comes through these bushes is getting fucking popped. And

1081
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:07.000
right then Harley goes, oh fuck, oh fucking DONC and

1082
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:11.920
Riley are like shut the fuck up, and he's like,

1083
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.119
there's two. There's two. Oh my god, there's two. And

1084
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.320
then Riley looks at the camera and goes, yeah, there's

1085
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.920
something over there. And then I looked into the camera

1086
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:25.480
and I see in red. I see shoulders in a

1087
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:30.800
head wherever out into towards where the bait is, and

1088
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.199
so Drew decides that we should rush over there. So

1089
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.360
we run over there. There's nothing there and were we

1090
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:41.480
have the infrared camera and everything, and there's no red anywhere.

1091
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:47.199
There's no figures anywhere around us, and fucking Drew's kind

1092
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.960
of standing there and we're standing behind this tree that

1093
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.639
the figure was standing behind, and he's like, I don't know, man,

1094
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.800
he goes, I was I've always been a flesh and

1095
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.199
blood kind of guy. He goes, but we just saw

1096
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.480
it on camera. And we run over here and it's

1097
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.840
not here. This is really weird. And then we start

1098
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:09.679
looking for footprints too. We can't find footprints. Something was

1099
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.440
tall taller than the trees, this little beech tree, I

1100
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:18.039
think it was. It was taller than that tree, and

1101
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:26.000
that tree was way taller than us, and that the

1102
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:29.039
size that we saw on the camera. There should have

1103
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:34.000
been some kind of footprint or remnants of something standing there,

1104
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:36.280
even if it was like scuffed up leaves or something.

1105
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.400
Hey, you guys were in a spot. Where have you

1106
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:46.559
ever talked to Travis Carpenter? No, I actually want to yeah,

1107
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:51.239
I just interviewed him and man, so his dad was

1108
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:55.440
one of my big well all right, my introduction to

1109
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.920
sasquatch was totally different, which I told on your show.

1110
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.760
But one of my biggest, I guess you could say

1111
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:07.760
from Afar Mentors was Scott Carpenter, Travis's dad, and it

1112
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.280
really got me down that rabbit hole of not being

1113
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.800
flesh and blood. I mean, I think they are, but

1114
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:20.960
I also think there's a supernatural component.

1115
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.880
Yeah, I think when they're here, they're definitely fleshing blood.

1116
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:31.719
And frankly, the DNA is the DNA. I mean that

1117
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.320
that test was done and people will try and poo

1118
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:38.119
poo at all they want, but it still exists. And

1119
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.519
so anyway, you know, you can go down that rabbit

1120
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:48.320
hole all day, but you know that that's the type

1121
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:51.639
of stuff that that's the area you guys were in though.

1122
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:57.119
That was his old stomping grounds some of it, right,

1123
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.000
And he's seen dog men and the air and everything,

1124
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.000
so yeah, I know Harley has as well.

1125
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.679
So apparently that's what we were trying to find, was

1126
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.280
the dog man, and we got the.

1127
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:13.840
He does he's all about the dog Man.

1128
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.519
He loved the dog Man. That's that's what we're looking

1129
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:22.400
for in Alabama in October, so we'll see.

1130
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.199
Yeah. I got some pretty crazy dog man accounts from

1131
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.840
a guy up in Maine two dog man slash werewolf.

1132
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.880
So yeah, I think I saw a dog man in Maine. Okay,

1133
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.559
I think you don't know it was. Its eyes were

1134
01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.480
red and it was accompanied with coyotes, and it scared

1135
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:48.000
the funk out of me. I've had that that overwhelmed

1136
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:52.519
with fear. Yeah, pure drag. Yeah, just like you know

1137
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:53.360
that I am.

1138
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:55.599
I know that I am the prey right now.

1139
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.840
Yes, absolutely, I was. I was inside when I'm seeing it,

1140
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.800
and I felt I was just like, yeah, like I

1141
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.360
had to get my rifle and everything. And you know,

1142
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.440
for the longest time, I just thought there was a

1143
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:12.920
demon outside. But the more that I hear about dog

1144
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:14.760
man encounters and stuff, I was like, I think that

1145
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:15.599
was a dog man.

1146
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.480
Yeah, there was like a like a family that got

1147
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.320
attacked by like a whole pack of these things. Yeah, Palmyra, Yeah,

1148
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:26.239
you're right, and that they climbed up the side of

1149
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.320
the house and all kinds of madness, and I can't

1150
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.199
remember that there's but there's more than one witness there

1151
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:37.559
so there's some substantiated stuff there with law enforcement and

1152
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:39.679
onnot as well some crazy.

1153
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:43.239
Yep, yeah there was. Yeah, it's a whole family. Like,

1154
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.039
so the mother, the father, the daughter, and the son

1155
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:47.239
all saw shit.

1156
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.360
Yep. Oh man, I wow.

1157
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.679
Yeah. And the sun happened to not be there that night,

1158
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:57.119
and I think the daughter was supposed to be coming

1159
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.360
home from work that night, the night that they were

1160
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.559
actually like attacked. So he his wife made him keep

1161
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.639
the guns outside in the barn, and he was I'm like, like,

1162
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:08.079
she must have been liberal.

1163
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.239
Yeah right or something, right, She's one of those, one

1164
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:12.000
of those folks.

1165
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.239
Yeah, So he kept he kept going outside to try

1166
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:15.679
and get there.

1167
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.800
He kept trying to get there, and he couldn't, right yeah, yeah, yeah, wow.

1168
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:24.039
So they having a barricade themselves.

1169
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.199
And they're coming up the side of the house to

1170
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:28.119
I couldn't even.

1171
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:32.239
Imagine, dude, my god, oh my god, I can't.

1172
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:40.560
Nope, nope, nope. So this show obviously is called broadcasting seeds, right,

1173
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:43.560
And so what I like to do with my guess

1174
01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:49.720
is have them drop a couple seeds, plant some seeds

1175
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:52.880
in the audience's mind about some things that that that

1176
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.760
you think about. And that that you know about you know,

1177
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.000
and that you want to partake and share with the audience.

1178
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:05.720
Oh shit, you know. I when you were on my show,

1179
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:12.840
you you basically like we talked about this, just rooting

1180
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.560
some seeds and stuff. And now that I'm on the spot, like,

1181
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:20.319
I can't think of anything other than you know, the

1182
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:25.239
taking care of your your mental health is so super important,

1183
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:27.680
and I think that's the most one of the most

1184
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:32.439
important things in in this in this world, the society

1185
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.960
that we live in, whether you're experiencing something, whether you

1186
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:40.439
went through some trauma, because if we're not taking like

1187
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.319
I think, even if you're not having issues, I think

1188
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.159
seeing a therapist at least once a year it would

1189
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:51.800
be beneficial for you in the long run. But with

1190
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:55.640
that being said, I don't think any any story is

1191
01:09:55.760 --> 01:10:01.720
too crazy. I think lot of these things I don't

1192
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:06.039
think that. Like when it comes to cryptids, I don't

1193
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.039
think there are a lot of them are from here.

1194
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.640
I think they're from other dimensions. Whether they come and

1195
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:18.279
I'm not and I don't. I mean, I haven't decided

1196
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:22.159
or think I have a complete thought on what an

1197
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:27.640
alien is, whether they're coming from a galaxy far far away,

1198
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:32.439
or if they're just blinking here from another dimension. But

1199
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:37.840
I do know that from experience that whether Jesus was

1200
01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.119
a real person, whether you believe in God or not,

1201
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.000
there is power in that name. And you can use

1202
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.520
it on a ghost, on a cryptid, on an alien,

1203
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.199
on whatever, and they're going to leave you the fuck alone.

1204
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:51.439
You know.

1205
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:57.760
I went through a lot of shit and and i've

1206
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.159
you know, I've didn't believe in in God for a while,

1207
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:05.840
but every time I've had an experience, like with shadow people,

1208
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:11.920
I use the name and they go. So even if

1209
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:16.159
you don't believe there's something to it, there's something to

1210
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:19.359
the intention of bringing that name into it. So that

1211
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.039
would be the seed that I think. The main seed

1212
01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:25.720
that I want to bring is is that there is

1213
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:32.359
definitely something biblically to these to these entities, and I

1214
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:38.840
think the more we align ourselves with, you know, the

1215
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:42.600
path of I don't know, I guess righteousness would maybe,

1216
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:48.479
you know. And I'm I'm not like a Christian. I'm

1217
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:52.680
not trying to like Bible thump or anything like that.

1218
01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:56.079
I have never read the Bible and I have been

1219
01:11:56.199 --> 01:12:02.079
meaning to, but I definitely think that there is you know,

1220
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.079
there's a there's something too, something's going on, right, Yeah,

1221
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.119
there's I mean, there's definitely spiritual warfare. I mean you

1222
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:11.760
can you can even see that in in regular media

1223
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.439
and in the way people act these days.

1224
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:17.880
So for sure. Yeah, I uh, it's funny that we

1225
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.239
bring that out because it just had I had a

1226
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:26.800
conversation with Drewski today about spiritual warfare that it's one

1227
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.479
of the things that I'm doing is I'm doing a

1228
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:34.039
Bible So it's on Sundays, I'm doing like taking the

1229
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:39.800
Bible book by book and doing the supernatural side of it, right, Yeah,

1230
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.359
And so it's just evident when you look at it

1231
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:49.399
through that lens of and I look at the world

1232
01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.359
through the lens of a warrior. I've been a warrior

1233
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.760
in my whole life, ever since I was a kid,

1234
01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.520
you know, and then I literally was a warrior in

1235
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.960
the military for ten years and then enforcement and then

1236
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.760
all the things. Right, and if you look at it

1237
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.520
through that lens, we are in a war and people

1238
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:11.479
tell me I'm crazy, like it's hyperbolic, and yeah, again,

1239
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.359
you know, you're being you're you're you're a fear among

1240
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:17.199
or this and that and the other thing. And I go,

1241
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.600
I'm teaching you the things that aren't there. They're just

1242
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:26.760
not You're not going to learn that in going to church,

1243
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:32.520
not not most churches at least. And if you look

1244
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.680
at it through that light, I've had more people go,

1245
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:40.520
oh my God, you're right like it. You got to

1246
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:48.159
look at it like this is regardless. It's something's happening,

1247
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.479
something's going on, and I feel like it's accelerating. So

1248
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:56.439
whether you believe in you know, the power of God

1249
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.960
or Jesus or whatever. Everyone that's experienced evil and there

1250
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:05.439
is a opposite to evil, and that is good or

1251
01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:11.600
the light, right, so walk to the light. Okay, then

1252
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.279
beyond that side, don't be on the bad side. And

1253
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.840
that's what I just try to tell people, you know.

1254
01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:20.680
I mean, I think that I think the whole point

1255
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:24.239
of life is to give and receive love. Like I

1256
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.399
think that's our whole purpose, Our whole purpose on earth

1257
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.039
is love. And the more people that practice that, the

1258
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:35.079
more the more I think we will ascend in the

1259
01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:40.840
spiritual warfare that's going on, will, you know, hopefully come

1260
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:42.800
to an end. But you know, I'm not one hundred

1261
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.479
percent sure if there ever is an end to it.

1262
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:51.000
Because I think that the warring factions of spiritual warfare

1263
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:57.319
is you know, God and the falling, the fallen, you know,

1264
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:02.199
they're the fallen is always trying to manipulate in too

1265
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:10.279
degrade anything that He's created, which you know, you're created

1266
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:13.920
in God's image. And now we got you know, the

1267
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.520
whole thing with that. You know, you got people trying

1268
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.359
to change ship to themselves, which you know, if that's

1269
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:22.479
the way you want to live your life, cool, But

1270
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:28.119
I think that's that's the start to the fall of society.

1271
01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:29.039
I mean, look at Rome.

1272
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:34.279
Yeah, I mean it this this dark side. It feeds

1273
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:40.960
off of fear and stuff like that. You know, it

1274
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:44.680
feeds on the darkness. So if you allow it to enter,

1275
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.239
and you allow it to scare you, and you allow

1276
01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:54.640
yourself to to you know, embrace that darkness, you're just

1277
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.880
giving it power.

1278
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:00.560
Absolutely absolutely, and at the end, at the end of

1279
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.760
the day, you're the one that's going to be judged

1280
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.239
for it, not anybody else.

1281
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.439
Call it what you will, right, Call it what you will,

1282
01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:12.640
and you either believe or you don't. And you know,

1283
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.760
I've seen way too free will as a motherfucker.

1284
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:22.039
It just is you know, you're not wrong. You know,

1285
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:24.680
I've seen way too many things at this point to

1286
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.119
not believe, like, yeah, the same, Like what's that you're

1287
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.640
using using the name in itself. I was just I'm

1288
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:36.479
just like, yep, that actually works, like all right, cool.

1289
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:42.239
Yeah, for sure, it definitely does. It definitely does. So

1290
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:47.039
all right, Kevin, tell us again where we can find you,

1291
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:51.319
and the best place is to go, all.

1292
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.560
Right, where the Weird Ones Are is everywhere you can

1293
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:59.840
find podcasts as well as YouTube website Where the Weird

1294
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.039
Ones Are, podcast dot Com, a whole bunch of stuff

1295
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.680
you can get on there. You can get merch, you

1296
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:11.199
can get hot sauce, coffee supplements. I do write short stories.

1297
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:13.680
I am trying to be a writer. That's that's is

1298
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.319
my main dream, and I think the podcast has helped

1299
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:18.479
me become more creative in that avenue.

1300
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:20.399
You know.

1301
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.359
I've written a book too, by the way, which I

1302
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:28.039
have right here. It's called The Adventures of Rizzo and

1303
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.920
weird Son Monster Hunters. The first book is called Hollow

1304
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:37.039
in the Pines. It's about it's essentially me but his name.

1305
01:17:37.159 --> 01:17:39.319
His name is Kevin, and his last name's weird Son,

1306
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:43.479
and it's me and my dog technically, and we just

1307
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.119
go around fighting monsters. So the first book is really short.

1308
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.399
I wanted it to be a comic, so I basically

1309
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.720
just based it off the comics script that I wrote,

1310
01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:56.119
So it's really short, quick, and more about the action

1311
01:17:56.399 --> 01:18:01.640
than anything. So book on Amazon. Okay, it's only on

1312
01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:04.560
Amazon because I used KDP to publish it.

1313
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:11.039
My friend, yeah, I get it.

1314
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.960
And book two is coming out in a couple of weeks,

1315
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.880
and that's going to be more story driven. That's going

1316
01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:22.119
to be more character building and stuff like that. But yeah,

1317
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.520
and then if you yourself have encounters that you want

1318
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:28.600
to discuss too, you can get me on where the

1319
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.880
weird ones are at gmail dot com or the Instagram.

1320
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:34.359
The Instagram is really like the best way to get

1321
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.079
a hold of me because that's where I post everything.

1322
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.880
That's where I'm most active, So that's where underscore the

1323
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.560
weird ones are. So yeah, that's that in a nutshell.

1324
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:47.960
Yeah, I'll put everything in the show notes and go

1325
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:54.439
check Kevin out like share and review his podcast. That's

1326
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:58.520
how these things happen with us guys and gals. So

1327
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.039
all right, man, I really appreciate you coming on, and

1328
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.319
we'll throw it again soon.

1329
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:05.439
Yes, Sarah, thank you for grabbing me.

1330
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:15.159
Absolutely, what's up your weirdos? Welcome to the night. We

1331
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:22.479
chased our shadows where the truth don't shine bright monsters

1332
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:30.520
and ghost Yeah, the secrets we see digging through the status.

1333
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:33.199
Where the silence speaks.

1334
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:38.319
We're just we're those in the dark, chase the sparks

1335
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:41.600
from the gray yard, whispursuit of gunments marks.

1336
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:44.760
If you don't love yourself, why you gonna find love?

1337
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:46.840
So we rise from that? It's just.

1338
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:49.880
Stars of bus.

1339
01:19:55.359 --> 01:20:05.039
Stars from boiling to the pones amak and the breeze,

1340
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:08.279
reading or about a fire, finding comfort in the tree,

1341
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:13.199
sagittarius spirit, even narrows. It lies, distrust in the system,

1342
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.760
but you never dies. It's the strange, it's the odd,

1343
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:19.479
it's the things, let us say, it's the voices in

1344
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:23.359
the night and the books that we've read, from the ghosten.

1345
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.000
Attict to the ducts in our head. We're alive, We're awake, We.

1346
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:28.239
Ain't dountil, we're dead.

1347
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:34.239
We're just weirdos in the Jesus barks from the graveyard.

1348
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.880
Whipposed to the government flocks. If you don't know yourself,

1349
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:41.159
how you gonna find so? He rides from the Pussius.

1350
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:42.840
Stars.

1351
01:20:42.920 --> 01:21:00.600
A book shot say we're gonna stay walk fo