March 15, 2026

The Unseen Battle Between the Dragon and the Lamb That's Still Happening

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The Unseen Battle Between the Dragon and the Lamb That's Still Happening
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What if the Book of Revelation isn’t just about the end of the world… but about a supernatural war happening behind human history? In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, host Bennett Tanton dives into one of the strangest and most misunderstood books in the Bible. Revelation describes dragons waging war in heaven, beasts rising from the sea to control nations, angels unleashing cosmic judgments, and at the center of it all… a Lamb who conquers through sacrifice. It sounds like mythology. But what if it’s actually a field report from a spiritual conflict that has been shaping history the entire time? We explore: • The war in heaven described in Revelation • The identity of the Dragon and what his strategy really is • The mysterious Beasts that influence nations and systems of power • Why the Lamb defeats evil in the most unexpected way possible • And what Revelation says about how this cosmic conflict ends The final book of the Bible may not be about fear at all. It might be about revealing the unseen battle between deception and truth, power and sacrifice, the Dragon and the Lamb. Welcome to Broadcasting Seeds, the podcast where we explore strange history, biblical mysteries, cryptids, conspiracies, and the hidden forces shaping our world. If you enjoy episodes like this, make sure to like, subscribe, and share the podcast. That’s how the show grows and how more people find these conversations. 📖 Biblical References Revelation 12 – The War in Heaven Revelation 13 – The Beasts Revelation 19–22 – The Final Victory https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+12&version=ESV

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In the minds of the pole read something that made

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you stop, lean back in your chair and go, hold on,

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what did I just read? Not because it was confusing,

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but it felt like someone accidentally left classified files in

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the open. That's the book of Revelation. Now, most people

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hear the word Revelation and immediately think of end time

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movies and fire raining from the sky, the Mark of

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the Beasts, four horsemen doing what four horsemen do best,

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causing absolute chaos. But here's the strange part. When you

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actually read the book carefully, Revelation doesn't feel like a

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disaster movie. It feels more like a war briefing, and

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not a human war. I'm talking about a cosmic conflict,

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a supernatural struggle happening behind governments, behind history, behind everything

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we think we understand about power. Because in Revelation you've

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got some very strange players. You've got a dragon waging

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war in heaven. You've got beasts rising from the sea

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and the earth, manipulating nations and economies. You've got angels

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pouring out balls of judgment like some kind of divine

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hasmat cleanup crew for corruption of the world right and

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standing right in the center of it all, not a warrior, king,

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not a general, not some mythological hero right. A lamb, Yeah,

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a lamb, which, if you think about it, might be

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the weirdest part of the whole story because in Revelation,

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at the end of the day, the Lamb wins not

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through brute force, not through armies, but through sacrifice. Right now, tonight, today,

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whatever you want to say, we're going to look at

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one of the most intense and overlooked themes of the

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entire Bible, the clash between the dragon and the lamb.

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It's not symbolic poetry either. It's a picture of a

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war that started long before humanity showed up on the scene,

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and according to relation, it's still playing out right now.

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And if that sounds a little wild, well, welcome to

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Broadcasting Seeds. I'm your host, Benettant, and on the show

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we dig into strange things, the cryptids, the conspiracies, the paranormal,

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the biblical mysteries, and sometimes the uncomfortable questions about what's

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really going on behind the curtain of the world. Because

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every once in a while, the story we were told

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about reality is missing a few chapters. So today we're

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stepping into the final book of the Bible to ask

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the big question, what if Revelation isn't just about the

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end of the world. What if it's about revealing the

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war we've been standing in the middle of this entire time.

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And before we get into it, quick favor, folks, if

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you enjoy episodes like this, make sure you like the episode,

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share it with someone who enjoys digging into all this

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strange stuff, and leave a review. That's honestly the biggest

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way the show grows and how more people find broadcasting seeds.

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All right, let's start by talking about the moment Revelation

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pulls back the curtain and introduces us to the dragon

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section one, the war behind the curtain. So all right,

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let's start with the moment Revelation basically pulls the curtain

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back on reality, because buried right in the middle of

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the book is one of the most bizarre scenes in

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the entire Bible. And it's a war in heaven. Not

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symbolic poet not metaphorical language about inner struggles, I mean

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a literal conflict between supernatural beings. In Revelation chapter twelve,

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John writes that a giant, great red dragon appears, massive,

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terrifying seven heads, seven horns, crowns on its heads, the

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kind of creature that sounds like it called straight out

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of ancient mythology, right, except for John tells us exactly

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who it is. The great Dragon was hurled down that

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ancient serpent called the devil or Satan, the enemy who

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leads the whole world astray. Right. Now, here's where it

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gets interesting is that the Dragon doesn't just sit around

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plotting in the shadows, right He's actively at war. And

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Revelation says, Michael and his angels fight against the Dragon

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and his forces, and the Dragon loses, and he's cast

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out of heaven and thrown down to Earth, which raises

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the question most people don't stop to ask, Right, if

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Satan was thrown down to Earth, where exactly did he land? Now,

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according to Revelation, here earth becomes the battlefield. And now

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think about that for a second, because if Revelation is

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describing an actual spiritual conflict happening behind human history, then

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the wars, the corruption, deception, and chaos we see in

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the world might not just be political or cultural problems.

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They might be symptoms of a deeper conflict. And the

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Dragon doesn't show us breathing fire on cities like something

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out of Game of Thrones. Revelation says his main weapon

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is something much more subtle, and we've talked about this before, deception.

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He leads the whole world astray. That's his job, that's

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his battlefield strategy, not just destruction, straight up manipulation. And

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if you zoom out and look at human history, you

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start seeing a pattern that makes Revelation feel less like

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fantasy and more like a disturbing possibility. Empires rise, promising

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peace and order, then they collapse into tyranny. Leaders gain

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power through persuasion, then rule through fear. Entire populations can

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be convinced to believe things that are completely and utterly

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detached from reality. Now, I'm not saying every bad decision

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in history is the result of supernatural influence. Okay. Are

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perfectly capable of making terrible choices all on their own,

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we all do it. But Revelation suggests there might be

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something amplifying those tendencies, something whispering in the background, something

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nudging the chaos forward. That would probably be the Dragon. Okay.

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And here's where the story takes a turn. I guess

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that most people miss because in the middle of this

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cosmic conflict, Revelation introduced a second figure, one that couldn't

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look more different from the dragon if it tried. No clause,

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no horned, no terrifying imagery, just a lamb. And somehow

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the lamb becomes the most dangerous enemy the dragon will

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ever ever face. Section two, the most unlikely warrior in

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the war, the lamb who conquers. Now, if you're writing

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a story about a cosmic war, you probably design your

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hero a little differently than the Bible does. Think about it.

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If you're facing a dragon, you want something impressive on

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your side, maybe a warrior king, a flaming sword, which

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I think exists, but an army of angelic commandos descending

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from the sky like something out of an Avengers movie. Right,

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But Revelation introduces the hero of the story in a

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way that honestly feels absolutely underwhelming. John says he sees

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a lamb standing as though it had been slain, not

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a lion charging into battle. A lamb, which, if you've

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been around sheep, you know they're not exactly the apex

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predators of the animal kingdom. Right. Sheep don't dominate. They

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don't dominate anything. They mostly wander around eating grass, occasionally

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getting themselves stuck in places they shouldn't be, not the

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sharpest tools in the shed. Right, So when Revelation says

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that the Lamb is one the one who defeats the dragon,

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it forces you to rethink what victory actually means. Because

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the Lamb and Revelation represent represents Jesus. We all know this,

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and his victory doesn't come through conquest. It came through sacrifice.

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That's the paradox at the center of this entire book

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that we call the Bible. Every empire in history is

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operated on the same formula. Power through force, control through intimidation.

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Dominate your enemy before they dominate you. Rome did it,

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Babylon did it. Every superpower since it has done it,

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us as the United States have done it. But the

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Lamb flips the entire system upside down. Folks, Instead of

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conquering his enemies by killing them, he conquers by giving

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his life. Now, on the surface, that sounds like losing, right,

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And for a moment in history it looked exactly like that.

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A public execution, a Roman cross, the Son of God

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dying like a criminal outside the walls of Jerusalem. If

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you were standing there that day, you wouldn't have said, ah, yes,

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this looks like the victory for of Heaven. You wouldn't say, well,

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that moment's over. You would have said that, well, that happened.

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But Revelation tells us something strange. That moment of a

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parent defeat was actually the turning point in this entire war.

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Because the Dragon's power has always relied on two things,

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accusation and death. Revelation literally calls him the accuser of

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the brethren, the one who stands before God accusing humanity

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day and night, that legalistic courtroom figure. Right, And honestly,

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if we're being real for a second, that accusation has

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some pretty solid evidence to work with.

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Right.

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Human history isn't exactly spotless, Your life isn't exactly spotless, right,

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none of us. Greed, violence, betrayal, corruption, I mean, the

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list goes on, and it is long. The Dragon's argument

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has always been simple, look at them, these humans, They're corrupt,

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they belong to me, right, That's his always been his argument.

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But the Lambs sacrifice does something that breaks this entire

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accusations accusation system, because if the debt is paid, right,

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the accusation loses its power. That's it. Revelation actually says,

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believers overcome the dragon by the blood of the Lamb

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and the word of their testimony, not by swords, not

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by political power, not by revolutions, right by the victory

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that already happened at that and on that cross, which

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leads to one of the most fascinating ideas. Fascinating ideas

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in Revelation, the war is still happening the way that

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the outcome has already decided, And that realization changes how

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you see everything else in the book, because the dragon

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may still rage, right, but the Lamb, bottom line, has

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already won and already won the decisive battle. And that

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brings us to the next strange piece of the story,

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because if the Dragon can't defeat the Lamb directly, he

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then changes his strategy. He starts building beasts section three,

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The Beasts of Revelation when power becomes possession. All right,

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so the dragon gets thrown down to earth. The Lamb

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wins the decisive battle at the Cross, But the story

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doesn't end there. In fact, Revelation says something unsettling. It

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says the dragon knows his time is short, so he

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changes tactics. Instead of fighting Heaven directly, he starts building

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systems here on Earth, and that's where the beasts come in. Now,

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when people hear beasts of the Beast of Revelation, they

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usually jump straight to the Hollywood versions, Right, some kind

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of obvious super villain with glowing eyes and lasers and

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dramatic evil music playing every time he enters the room. Right,

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But Revelation paints a more disturbing picture. The first beast

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rises out of the sea, seven heads, ten horns, right,

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authority given to it by the dragon. And the world

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looks at this beast and says something fascinating. Who is

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like the beast? Who can wage war against it? In

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other words, people straight up admire it, and they respect it,

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they follow it. Okay, that should already make us pause

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for a second, because the beast doesn't rise through obvious evil.

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It rises through power, political power, military power, power, cultural influence.

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It absolutely looks unstoppable. Now here's where things get interesting.

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Biblical scholars for centuries have noticed something about the beasts

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in Revelation. They resemble the beasts ascribed in the Book

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of Daniel. Now, in Daniel, those beasts clearly represent kingdoms

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and empires, which means the beast in Revelation might not

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just be a single individual. It may represent systems of

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power that become corrupted by the Dragon's influence. Governments, empires,

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economic systems, and other ideologies. Any structure that promises order

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but slowly morphs into control. That sounds really familiar. Huh. Now,

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before anyone starts throwing tomatoes at their phone at the stream,

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let me say this clearly. Not every government is is

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the beast. Not every system of authority is evil either. Okay, order,

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bottom line, we talk I talked about this this morning

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with my family. Order is necessary, and civilization absolutely one

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hundred percent needs structure. But Revelation warns that when power

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becomes absolute, it starts to resemble something darker most of

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the time, usually right, because the beast doesn't just rule

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that the beast, it demands worship. That's the turning point.

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Healthy authority actually serves people, right, leadership. I'm gonna say

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it one more time, Healthy authority actually serves people. The

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difference is the beast demands people to serve it, and

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history gives us plenty plenty of examples who demand loyalty

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above morality, Regimes that punish anyone who questioned the official

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narrative systems where speaking the truth suddenly became dangerous. We

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see these things over and over and revolution Revelation describes

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a world where buying and selling becomes controlled, where allegiance

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is measured, and where dissent is treated as rebellion against

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the system itself. So unfamiliar. Now, I'm not telling you

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that Revelation is describing one specific modern country or political movement.

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That really is not the point. The point is that

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is the pattern, and that's in a lot of what

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I say, the pattern. The dragon empower systems that slowly

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move human hmanity, or should I say, nudge humanity away

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from truth and toward control. And if that wasn't enough,

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Revelation introduces a second beast, and this one rises from

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the earth. It performs signs and miracles, It convinces people

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that the first beast is worthy of worship, and in

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other words, it creates the narrative. If the first beast

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represents corrupted power, the second beast represents corrupted influence. Okay, propaganda,

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false spirituality, and deception dressed up as truth. And when

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those two forces combine power and persuasion, you end up

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with a system that can move entire civilizations without people

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realizing they're being moved, which leads us to the most

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important question of the entire story. If the Dragon is

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working through systems, influence, and deception, how does anyone stand

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against that. Revelation's answer might surprise you, because the Land

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doesn't call people to overthrow the beasts. What he calls

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them to remain faithful. And that brings us to the

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final and most hopeful part of the story, because no

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matter how powerful the Dragon and the beasts appear, Revelation

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says their time is limited, and the ending it's not

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even close. Section four the end of the war, when

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the Lamb returns. All right, so let's zoom out for

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a second. At this point, At this point in the story,

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we've got a dragon thrown down to Earth, beast rising

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out of political and spiritual systems, deception spreading across the nations,

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and humanity totally caught in the middle of it all.

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And if Revelations stopped there, it would honestly read like

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the darkest dystopian novel ever written. All Right, but the

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book doesn't end with the Dragon winning, I mean, frankly,

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not even close, because Revelation says something fascinating about evil.

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It's loud, it's powerful, and it looks unstoppable, but it's

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also temporary, and the dragon knows it. Okay, there's a

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line in Revelation twelve that almost sounds like a warning

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shot fired across the bow of history, and it says,

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the devil the enemy, is filled with fury because he

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knows his time is short. That line changes the way

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you read everything that follows it, or should just remember

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that it says the devil is filled with fury because

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he knows his time is short. That line changes at all,

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because suddenly the chaos of the world starts to look,

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I mean way, less like a victory lap and more

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like a desperate less stand right. And then Revelation moves

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towards its final act, the return of the Lamb. Now

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here's where things shift again, because when Jesus first appeared

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in the Gospels, he came quietly, born in a stable,

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raised in a town that nobody knows about, or plaid

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attention to walking dusty Rhodes teaching people about the Kingdom

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of God. Right the Lamb who was slain. But Revelation

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shows us the same figure returning in a completely different role.

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John describes Heaven opening a rider on a white horse,

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faithful and true, eyes like fire, crowns on his head,

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and the armies of Heaven following behind him. And here's

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the detail that always gets me, always, the weapon in

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his the weapon in this battle isn't a sword in

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his hand. It's a sword coming from his mouth. Now,

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in biblical imagery, that represents truth. Okay, that's what that is.

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In other words, the final victory isn't one through military domination.

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It's one through the exposure of lies, because that's always

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been the Dragon's greatest weapon, right, not power, necessarily deception.

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And when truth shows up, deception just absolutely collapses. It's

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like turning on the lights in a dark room. The

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shadows disappear instantly. Revelation says, the beasts are defeated. The

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dragon is then bound, The systems that corrupted humanity are

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totally dismantled. And then something even more shocking happens. God

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doesn't just end the war, He totally remakes the world

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a new Heaven, a new Earth. No more death, no

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more corruption, no more systems that manipulate or dominate people. Right,

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and maybe the most profound part of the entire ending

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of this is this line. Behold, the dwelling place of

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God is with man. Think about that for a second.

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The story that started in Genesis with humanity walking with

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God in the garden ends with humanity walking with God again,

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full circle, full circle. The dragon tried to corrupt creation,

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the Lamb restores it, and suddenly Revelation stops feeling like

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a scary prophecy about the end of the world. It

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starts looking like the final chapter of a rescue story, right,

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a story where the Lamb wins not through domination but

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through redemption. And if Revelation is telling the truth, then

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the war behind the Curtain is already heading towards its conclusion.

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So let's take a step back from the imagery for

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a second. Dragons and beasts and angels, cosmic battles, a

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lamb defeating the forces of darkness. So at first glance,

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Revelation feels like the wildest book in the Bible, and

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the kind of thing people either obsess over or avoid

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completely because it sounds like a theological acid trip. Right,

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But when you slow down and read it carefully, something

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interesting happens. The book stops feeling like chaos, and it

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starts feeling more and more like clarity, because Revelation isn't

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really about predicting every headline in tomorrow's news cycle. It's

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not a secret decoder ring right for figuring out which

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politician might secretly be the Antichrist, or whether your neighbor's

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smart fridge is about to mark you with the number

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six six six.

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Right.

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Revelation is doing something much bigger than that. Okay, Revelation

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is pulling back the curtain. It's showing you that the

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struggle of humanity experiences the corruption and the deception, and

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those power struggles. The systems that rise and fall may

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not be random events in chaotic in a chaotic universe,

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they might be part of a larger war, a war

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between two kingdoms. The Dragon builds power through control, fear, manipulation,

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and deception, and the Lamb builds a kingdom through sacrifice,

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truth and redemption. And every generation finds itself standing somewhere

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between those two forces. I mean, just look, that is

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the real tension in the story, not just what happens

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at the end, okay, but which kingdom are you aligning

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with right now? Because Revelation never tells believers to go

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hide in a bunker waiting for the sky to crack open.

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It just doesn't. Let mean, I'm going to say that again,

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because revelation never tells believers to go hide in a

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bunker waiting for the sky to crack open. What does

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it tell them to do. It tells them to endure,

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to stay faithful, to refuse to bow to systems that

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demand worship, and yet people worship systems that demand worship

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every single day. It tells us to hold on to

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truth even when deception becomes popular. And maybe that's why

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the book ends the way it does, not with fear

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and sure is hell, not with chaos, but with restoration,

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a new heaven, a new earth, God dwelling with humanity again,

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and the Lamb victorious, the dragon defeated, the war finally

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over essentially. Now, whether you see revelation as prophecy, symbolism,

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spiritual warfare, or some combination of all three, one thing

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is clear. The Bible ends with the reminder that evil

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doesn't get the last word. It just doesn't. Sorry, truth does,

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redemption does, the Lamb does. And honestly, in a world

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that feels like it's getting a little crazier every day

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every year, that's not a bad ending to hold on

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to to realize right that the Lamb wins. If you

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the strangest story is the one the Bible has been

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telling along until next time. I need you to keep

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duns of th I f spells, dangle selling true full lies.

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Something shadow walks. You can see in everything. It seems

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him fell from.

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Something in the ground.

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And lost yet irony, his brathless story lie calling him

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the chilly heading from the scene thousand ire now bone,

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but the lam still stands and the lames the fla

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on the.

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but the crowd bowing to as the dragon side something

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mosses sto something you love. When the beast starts speaking,

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you can.

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Hear the serpents to.

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Dragging him the scott by your rim his.

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The world is shaking the seals of breaking the sky.

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high sky job fall show dry again the musky times

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about the canan bees will fall by your wheels, roll

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because the still stands, snap the dail store down, the store.

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One be for.

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Fawn man.

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Stills the song still songsters so

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