April 18, 2025

Through the Veil with Rachel DeMicco: Spirits, Shadows, and the Sinister Sisters.

Through the Veil with Rachel DeMicco: Spirits, Shadows, and the Sinister Sisters.
Through the Veil with Rachel DeMicco: Spirits, Shadows, and the Sinister Sisters.
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Through the Veil with Rachel DeMicco: Spirits, Shadows, and the Sinister Sisters.

In this chilling and captivating episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with Rachel DeMicco—paranormal investigator, empath, and co-founder of Sinister Sisters Paranormal. With years of experience navigating the other side, Rachel opens up about...

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In this chilling and captivating episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with Rachel DeMicco—paranormal investigator, empath, and co-founder of Sinister Sisters Paranormal. With years of experience navigating the other side, Rachel opens up about her most intense investigations, encounters with restless spirits, and the emotional toll of connecting with the dead. We explore the formation of Sinister Sisters Paranormal, the team’s mission to seek truth with empathy and respect, and the very real dangers—both spiritual and psychological—of opening doors that might never close again. From haunted asylums and poltergeist activity to personal psychic experiences and protective rituals, Rachel doesn’t hold back. Whether you're a seasoned ghost hunter or just curious about what goes bump in the night, this episode is your backstage pass into the world where science meets the supernatural.

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All right, we are live, so tell us who you

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are and what you do.

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So my name is Rachel go buy Demico.

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It's my legal name, so we'll go with that. And

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I'm a paranormal investigator with I have my own team founded,

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Sinister Sisters Paranormal, and we're out of the Nashville area.

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So yeah, i've been. I've been officially investigating. I want

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to say, gosh, it's been like almost four years. But

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been a paranormal enthusiast most of my life. Originally I'm

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from the San Francisco Bay area. Moved out to Nashville

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in twenty nineteen so that I was lucky enough to

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find a team out here that I joined, and I

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was on that team for a few years before I

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decided to branch.

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Out on my own.

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So yeah, uh, I've been, like I said, paranormal enthusiasts

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most of my life. And I think that's because I've

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had I've had my own paranormal experiences as a child

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that really got me interested in in wanting to know more. Right,

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it kind of like it kind of like busted open

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that door, you know, But I had a little it

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was just cracked a little bit, like after having those experiences,

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it was like, okay, and now I want to know

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everything you know? And and it didn't like and then

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over time it didn't stop.

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It probably got like it just increased.

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Over it it became like I know and only like

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it wasn't it was like down the rabbit hole it

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went and it was not only you know, ghosts related,

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but you know cryptids, uh aliens like.

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You know, once that box is cracked open, it's done.

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Oh for sure.

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It becomes like it's almost like like a drug, like

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you need to know, like I need to know more.

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Where is it to give me all the knowledge?

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So this is just it's funny that you said that

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because my first question, my only question to ever guest is,

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and I say it that way, what is your gateway

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drug to this world? How funny because I don't I mean,

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there's other ways you can explain it, but the gateway drugs,

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I mean everyone understands that, Yeah, gateway drug to this

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world of high strangeness that we live in. Yeah, So

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what was yours? Well, like it kind of answered that.

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Yeah.

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I think it was that that very first kind of

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interaction with with something unknown. I'll just I mean I

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wholeheardly believe it was my grandfather who who had, you know,

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passed away, and it wasn't. He had only been passed

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away like a couple of months. And I was over

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at my at you know, the house that he lived

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with my grandmother, staying the night, and I came out

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one morning and it looked like there was somebody standing

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in the curtains, like like a full like like a

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actual person was standing in the curtains. And I was like,

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what is that?

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You know, kind of like my like, am I seeing things?

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I was about ten years old, okay, yeah, and you

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know I went to my grandmother and I'm like, Grandma,

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grandmother's there's somebody in the curtains and she comes out

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into the living room and she just just like nonchalantly,

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she goes, it's just Grandpa. And then she goes Grandpa.

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She goes, Grandpa, you're scaring Rachel. He was like, it's

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you might need to go. And so then she told

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me like he visits Tia law, you know, he's still around,

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and like she just you know, she didn't she made

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it seem like real front, you know, like it wasn't strange,

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it wasn't weird. It was just like this is normal

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and he comes to visit me and you know, so

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it's it's kind of like there's nothing to be afraid of. Yeah,

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So I think that definitely was that gateway for me

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to to kind of open the doorway to to.

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Many other things.

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And then what helped, I think is is that, you know,

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my mom was always inquisitive about, you know, different things,

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like she was I think like her side the family,

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and they really believed in like psychics, and you know,

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she used to watch a lot of the shows on

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that were like the talk shows during the day, but.

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It had like Sylvia Brown on there.

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You know.

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Yeah, yeah, I watched that a lot because my mom

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always had it on, and I thought it was fascinating

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how like, you know, she was able to talk to

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me and get all this information from the other side.

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And I think that I learned.

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I think I quickly learned that you know, that had

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some sort of you.

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Know gift as well.

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And you know, a certain point in time, you know,

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I think that I turned things off for a while,

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and I think it's I had kids, and you know,

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they're grown, but it's like for for a while, it's

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just like you get absorbed with other things and then

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you kind of like tend to I know for me personally,

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just like kind of pushed that aside and deal with

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what you've got going in the moment.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And then you know, ever since I've been out there,

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just like not only investigating. I think it started like

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when I got remarried and you know, we went started

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going like everywhere we went traveling was like someplace haunted,

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you know.

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And I was like, so, I know, I was like

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I'm going on this ghost to her, I'm going to

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see that haunted place.

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And he's like, did I get myself into? But now

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like I think actually enjoys it. So you know, we

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do a lot of we do investigating some together.

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And you know, I can't get my wife to go

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with me.

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Oh no, no, no, no.

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I mean she went on one like paranormal investigation with me,

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but she was just like a spectator. It was to

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Fort Delaware in right outside well in the middle of

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the Delaware River. So she went. So that was that

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was kind of that's about us, that's it, and that

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was it for her. She's like, I'm good, she.

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Didn't she didn't get the bug.

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Then nice, No, no, and I wouldn't expect her to either,

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but she puts up with me dealing with it. So

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so California to Tennessee's that's a heck of a move.

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That's a I mean culturally everything.

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Yeah, I lived just in Nashville, So I would say

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that Nashville isn't as you know, I think they're a

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little bit more culturally diverse because you know, there's a

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lot of schools around here. We have, you know, obviously

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Vanderbilt is the big one, but there's there's a bunch

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of of colleges that are out here. So I think

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it brings people from everywhere. And Nashville is just like right,

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and Nashville is just like growing exponentially, like the Nashville

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metro areas. Just like even since I've been here in

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you know, five years, little five years, it's been it's

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like we've seen things change so much, you know, which

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the people who who used to live around here now

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I've kind of been pushed out a little further out,

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and you know, they they miss the way it used

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to be, the way that Nashville used to be before

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everybody came moving in. But it's still I think even

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when we moved here. They said, I was enrolling my

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son into school. They said, about one hundred people a

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day we're moving into like the Nashville area, just trying

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to register their kids to school.

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So it was like, my god. And it's been going

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on that the entire time.

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But it's also because of the it's also speaking of

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paranormal investigations. It's a pretty target rich environment. I wou

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absolutely because of the history, and my wife does want

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to move to that area. So I always love talking

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to people from there because you know, my daughter also

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is huge in the music, so she you know, we

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watched this documentary the other day that talked about singer

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songwriters and and it was it was awesome though. It

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was fantastic.

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Uh yeah, there's a lot of that out here.

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It just makes you want to move there.

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But yeah, I mean there's so much to do.

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I mean, I was like pleasantly surprised when I came

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to my The reason we moved out my husband got

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a job out at Vanderbilt and and so I you know,

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he was like, I'm not going to move there if

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you don't want to move there, you know kind of thing.

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So he was like, you got to come with me

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when he went to do his interview, you know, so

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I got to see the area and just I was

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just like it was pleasantly surprised, Like I was just

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kind of like there it's compared to California. I'd say

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Tennessee's California is beautiful. Come from the San Francisco Bay area,

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so it's really beautiful up that way. But there's a difference,

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I think, like, you know, Nashville and Tennessee in particular,

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you know, we got a lot more rain during like

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this summer than California does. So everything usually in California,

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like around you know, even starting like in May, it

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is brown, like all the hills and everything, all the

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grasses turned brown. Here like everything is green, and I

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was just like wow, it's kind of like it reminded

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me of like Ireland almost because everything was just green,

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all the trees, all the flowers, all the grasses. Everything

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was just beautiful and green. And you know, I really

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love that.

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Yeah, And there's just so.

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Much to do too.

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There's so much to do and everything is not very far.

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That's what I loved about being out here too, is

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that I could travel, Like being such like a small

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sort of Landmark state. There was like within a few hours,

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you know, I could be in Kentucky, or a few hours,

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I could be down in Alabama. A few hours that way,

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I could be in North Carolina or Georgia.

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It's like it's so many places that I could be and.

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I got everything from the mountains to you know, I mean,

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yeah lake but they're far enough.

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But yeah, but it's been Yeah, I've actually traveled more

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here than I did out in California. But I've been

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able to to go, like I've been to New Orleans

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a number of times because it's just a it was

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like a seven hour drive for me that California. That

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was like going from San Francisco. It's a Los Angeles. Yeah, right,

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so it's kind of like I could travel like three

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four states and you know, to California and still be

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stuck in the same state.

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So yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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How about so what what about New Orleans?

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You like, how do absolutely love New Orleans?

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Right?

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Yeah? So that's that was that whole thing was about, uh,

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like Louisiana everything. So we had like the you know,

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skuncape and we talked about all kinds of stuff, the

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rog Guru and all the things.

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So, yeah, there's a lot of paranormal rich history, I

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think in in louis in all of Louisiana, but you know,

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New Orleans kind of I think for me, you know,

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there's this strange affinity I have for the for for

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the French Quarter area, Like I don't know, I just

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feel like a poll to go there. I felt that

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for for even you know, when living in California, I

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was like, I need to get.

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To New Orleans. It's like where I want to be,

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you know.

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So I don't know what it is about it, but

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you know it's I think it has it stems from

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the fact that, I mean, I really love history too,

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So that's part of what I liked about going on

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a lot of these tours that we would go on,

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not only where the ghost tours, but they were also

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sort of like the folklore and the history of what

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was happening in that particular area. And so, you know,

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I always loved about New Orleans because they talked about

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you know, obviously pirates.

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And voodoo and.

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You know, even the French coming over and a lot

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of the wars they had there because actually the Spanish

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had there first and the French came and then you

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know a lot that happened and so, and then of

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course there's like vampire everything out there, which I really

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love is the Vampire Cafe if you've ever.

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Never been there.

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But yeah, it's fun and that.

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So I mean I am listening, trust me.

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Yeah.

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And she's got a little like I think it's called

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Boutique de Vampire is like right next door to her

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the restaurant the cafe. She's got like a little boutique

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shop that has everything in it. And then she opened

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I think because she's been doing so well. I think

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in that spot that she was able to open.

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Like there's a.

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Secret Vampire bar that you have to get like a

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special password from one of the waiters at the cafe.

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Then they give you a.

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Little car, yes exactly, and you have to like you

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take that card and you have to go it's like

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in the back of this you know, other shop or whatever,

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and you go to the back of it and you

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have to.

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Say something like the vampire sent me, you know.

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To be let in, and then you present them with

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the card they give you and you get to go

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up into this kind of like very much speakeasy. They

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had like absent drinks and all that kind of stuff,

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so it's kind of it's kind of cool. And then

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she opened like another that was like a she calls

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it the apothecary. So it's very much like I think,

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akin to sort of the witchy voodoo vibes out there,

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which there's.

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A lot of too.

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So yeah, yeah, I.

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Just love the cemeteries out there, so so cool.

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Yeah, really cool.

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I just love I'm one of those who likes it.

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Finds a particular like piece walking through like cemeteries and

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graveyards and stuff.

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So that's hysterical, not hysterical. I I was just commenting

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on that that I love. Somebody said, what's something weird

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that you like? And for me it was literally, I'll

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like drive around or sit like I'll do paperwork in

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the cemetery. Yeah, quiet, and it's like I just feel

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at peace. It's so weird.

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But yeah, sure, but a lot of people are like that.

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Now, it's not as much as I thought, like would

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be like have an aversion to it. A lot of

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people are like I love going Like people I didn't

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even suspect are like I love going to like walk

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around graveyards and stuff.

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And I was just like okay, and everything's so pretty

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with the because it's like everything's a mausoleum there because

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oh yeah, they can't go underground.

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Yeah. Everything.

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Yeah, but it's like uh, Anne Rice Novel, the whole

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damn place. Yeah, I've been there. I've been there. It

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was real quick, but I got the taste. The other

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place I really liked. It's similar, but it's that southern

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is Savannah, Georgia. I don't know if you've ever been there,

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but that place.

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A couple of times.

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So the places that I love to go or you know,

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it's like we moved. When I found out we were

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moving out here, I'm like, okay, the list is New Orleans, Savannah, Charleston.

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Those are kind of the three cities, and they're very

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similar in so many ways because they both were sort

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of founded on this kind of French initial culture. So

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they they call themselves, they'll actually call themselves sister cities

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because they're also along the coast that had a lot

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of pirates and you know, a lot of similar although

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a lot of similar undertones to the culture.

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Have you ever been to Wilmington, North Carolina?

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I haven't.

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You should go. It's okay, similar to on a smaller scale,

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but you have if we talk about pirates in paranoia

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and it's like supernatural. Uh, there's a lot of that

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there because you have the Cape Fear River. That's where

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the outlet for the Cape Fear is and the city

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is actually built right on the Cape Fear River. And

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as we know, I mean Cape Fire is, it's pretty famous.

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You know, it's for you know, rum runners and the

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blockade Runners and all that stuff was there, Civil War stuff.

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But there's some haunted places there. Fort Fisher is pretty

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you know, there's all kinds of stuff. But it's another

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one of those old Southern cities. And so I would

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encourage you to go. I used to live there, so

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I love it.

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I'm yeah, it's not too far.

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I mean, North Carolina is not too far at all

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than just because it's so close.

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We've been to like Asheville, which.

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Is yeah, of course that's another place that's beautiful too. Yeah,

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but they just got hammered with all the flooding, so

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that sucks, but I.

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Know they did. They just yeah.

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I have a friend that lives there and she was

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just like, I think they finally just opened back up

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part of the She said, it's not fully open because

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they're still having to do work, but at least they

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can pass. I think, like one car at a time

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going you know, each way.

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But absolutely, but you get over there into the Smokies

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and it's target rich as well. I mean from Virginia

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all the way down. It's nothing but you know, paranormal, supernatural,

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it's yeah, it's.

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Yes, exactly, yeah, yeah, it's it's wonderful.

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I mean I love all that.

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Yeah. So talk to me about Clare clare sentient empathy.

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What does that mean?

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Uh so, Claire sentient means that you feel the energy. Okay, Oh,

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that's essentially like what an mpath is too. They you like,

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when I walk into a place, it's not that I

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visually see something. You know, most of the time, I'll

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feel it first. I'll walk into a place and you know,

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my body will react certain ways. Like I think the

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very first time I went to New Orleans and we

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went down this this I didn't know what it was

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at the time until like the tour guide.

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Told us about it.

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But I was staying in this one area and I

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was like, my god, I feel dizzy, Like I feel

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like everything is spinning. And then the tour guide went

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on to say that this is where they they had

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humongous uh battle.

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That went on in this location.

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It's kind of close to Pirate's Alley, and they actually

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had where they lined up the bodies after they had

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been through the enormous battle in this one area for

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a long time. And actually this they they Spanish did

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that to the French, like when the French came and

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invaded tried to invade the city, that they just killed

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a whole bunch of them and they just left the

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bodies there to rot so that the people would they

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would say, this is what's gonna happen to you, you know,

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if you I'm trying to invade us. So I just

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right away, I was like, oh my god, I feel

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like I'm I'm like so dizzy, like I'm gonna pass

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out or something. So I've had there's only been a

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few places that I felt like that that Spinny. The

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other place that was was at Winchester Mystery House in

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California and San Jose. Yeah, so I went there, went

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there a few times, and they had because we it's

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kind of in like like back in my backyard there

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in the Bay Area.

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It's not too far for us to go.

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So we would go there a few times a year,

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and one of the times that I went, we went

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on like a behind the scenes tour. It was going

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to be something that they put on the normal tour,

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but they were sort of beta testing it, and so

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they invited like a select few people to kind of

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like take the tour and give your feedback.

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And so we went, and.

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They were going to take you to parts of the

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house that they never showed to regular visitors. So I

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was I was beyond excited to go. And we went

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to this one room that was like at the very

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top of the addict in one of the spaces, and

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it was so roughly like framed in. It was just

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basically you know, wood boards. There was no walls to

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it at all. And the second I got in that room,

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it was very spinny, and you know, I said to

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my husband, I said, I don't think I can I

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can be in this room. And he said, well, come

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out stand with me in the hallway, because I said,

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I want to know what this room is. You know,

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it just feels really crazy in here. And the tour

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guide said, well, we think this was we think this

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was actually her Like, oh god, Sam drona blank again

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my home, but is uh Sarah Winchester. That's that's the

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one who kind of she was the heir to the

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Winchester Rifle, and that's where.

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She used to do her seances.

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So that was her very first sounds room that they

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think it was her main one. She did revolve and

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move around to different sounds rooms as they as she

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got this fear that she had to move in different

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places because of the spirits. Like she always was, she

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had this uh she felt like she was cursed, and

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the spirits told her that because her husband, you know,

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he was, he was the Winchester, he was, his family was.

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But she ended up like a lot of them. He died,

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their child died, uh even and I think his brothers

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and stuff had died. So she really felt like, you know,

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there's a curse on my family and.

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It's because of the gun we make.

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Has killed so many people, has taken so many lives,

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and that they said the only way to appease those

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spirits was to build and continue to build. So she

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built from when she first bought they first bought the house,

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all the way up until it's works stopped happening the

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day she died, so when she ceased to exist, that's.

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When the work stopped.

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Man.

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But it is it's a very it's a very cool,

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like fascinating place, but it's definitely like you get a

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you get a feeling when you're in there, like this

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is this is really weird because it kind of gets you.

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Open doors literally, I mean like just to the other side. Yeah,

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Or it's one of those what I like to call

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thin places.

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Yes, agreed, Yeah, where the veils real thin there. But yeah,

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I feel like in that space probably where she did

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this seance, like her main seance room, it was probably

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because she opened up a portal or something there and

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that's why I feel like it was like so spinning

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with energy, like there was.

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A lot that came in and out of there.

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But yeah, so but yeah, I feel like in different

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investigations I've been on, I'm kind of like I knew

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when we went into Like when in Indiana recently we

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went to the Whispers estate and the second I walked

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in through the hallway, there was a particular point I

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got to and I went I got like this pit

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like in my stomach, and I was like, ooh, I

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was we're gonna have some activity tonight and they were like,

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everybody was like, what.

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Did you feel? What did you feel?

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I said, I just felt like like I got a

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just a pit in my stomach. It was just a real,

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like it's just a sinking, heavy feeling right here. And

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then I think, my my, uh. The co founder of

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the team with me my friends and she had said

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she had said, oh, that means maybe something happened here.

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And she asked the tour guy. She was like, hey, uh,

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did anything happen in that hallway? And he was like,

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oh yeah. He's like, well, well I'll get He's like,

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we'll get we'll get to it. And so apparently like

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a little little girl that used to live in the house,

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she caught fire. You know that that particular area. In fact,

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he said, along the doorframe, which we didn't notice until

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he pointed out, but you could tell along like the

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frame of the door, there was where you could see

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where it was burnt and they just sort of painted

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over it.

470
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They had kind of kept it and painted over it there.

471
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.440
So you know, they were saying, that's one of the

472
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.880
apparitions that's quite often seen there is that of the

473
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.519
little girl who who had pair during the fire. She

474
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:03.519
didn't die at that moment, but she died a few

475
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:08.359
days later there in the house. So she's one that's

476
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.319
seen there. But I just had like I didn't see anything.

477
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.240
I didn't sense the fire, but I just felt like

478
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.079
oof man real yeah, we real heavy in this spot.

479
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.519
So I don't know, I always know why. I just

480
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.880
know like something happened there.

481
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:28.400
Yeah, I am the same way. Yeah, if I go

482
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:32.720
into a place, I know, Yeah, I don't see anything.

483
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.960
I don't talk to anybody. It's not like that, it's

484
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:37.759
I just know.

485
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.319
And that's what the claire like if people say they

486
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.640
have the Claire. So there's different claires, like yeah, you know,

487
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.160
most of the people know clairvoyant, so I mean like

488
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:55.799
clear knowing. But you know, so there's different kinds to

489
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:58.279
where you can either you can either see things, you

490
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:02.200
can hear things, you can you can feel things.

491
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:03.680
Those are kind of the different.

492
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:09.119
Do you have anything any other besides the like the

493
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.000
being able to sense things?

494
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.599
Do you I think that get I think that they

495
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:16.519
that spirits know.

496
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.599
I think that I'm a little bit more uh you know,

497
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.519
can feel a little bit more. So, Yeah, they tend

498
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.960
to interact a little bit more with me. So I've

499
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.559
I've definitely on investigation. I've heard things. I've heard voices

500
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:39.720
that we've actually caught on on digital recorders. And yeah,

501
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.319
so but we had I had a crazy experience just

502
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.240
recently about Gosha. I guess it's about a month ago now,

503
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.519
Just time flies. But we were at Harriman Hospital. So

504
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.279
it was an old hospital that is no longer working,

505
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.759
and we were up on the second or in what

506
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:05.839
used to be I guess it was like a recovery

507
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:11.480
after surgery room. We were in there, and and one

508
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.519
of the girls I was investigating with she was doing

509
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.240
like the Essis method, so she was, but they had

510
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.960
a hospital bed that was still there in the room.

511
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.440
So she's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna lay down in

512
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:28.759
the hospital bed, right, And she's lying down there and

513
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.599
she has like she's wearing the head wearing headphones that's

514
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.680
like being piped in like a spirit box, you know,

515
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.640
kind of sound. And then she's got the blindfold on

516
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.759
and I'm talking. Right, We're sitting right next to the

517
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:44.920
bed and I'm talking to the girl next to me,

518
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:50.079
and she's recording, and you know, you're gonna hear us

519
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:51.960
in this in the part of the video and I

520
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.039
think I have it on I have it on like

521
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:58.279
our cents sister's page, and I have it on my TikTok.

522
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:58.039
But.

523
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.799
Basically or like you hear me saying something like it

524
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.400
feels like this was like I felt like the energies

525
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.079
around me, like this was a working hospital, like there

526
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:13.960
were still energies, like still working about. And she, the

527
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.480
lady was one of the girls I was investigating with,

528
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.000
was she's very much sure she can like talk to

529
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.680
spirits and stuff, and she said, yes, I agree with you.

530
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.680
There's a doctor here. He really doesn't like us here

531
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.920
where he says, we're kind of in the way. And

532
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.960
as we're talking about this, do you hear this? And

533
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:41.039
it's probably the loudest, clearest voice that we've ever gotten,

534
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.880
like you know, disembodied voice. Right, there's no there was nobody.

535
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.000
It was only as girls, and this was clearly a

536
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.000
man's voice. And he said it very It was like

537
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:53.759
in a whispery voice, but it was loud and you

538
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.960
can and it sounded like it was right behind me,

539
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.200
and he says, and he said in whispering, he said,

540
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:06.880
I can see you, and we all this well The

541
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.319
weird thing was that that the girl I was with, Alicia,

542
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.839
was afraid for her. Her friend was lying on that

543
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.039
bed right, and her friend had no idea what was happening, right,

544
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.319
and she thought that voice was coming out of her

545
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.400
friend for some reason, and so she she grabbed my

546
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.240
hand and then she jumped on top of her friend

547
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.680
to like say like, oh no, Beverlee, I'll save you.

548
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.200
And we both ended up jumping on this poor girl

549
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:40.240
and she screamed because she had no idea what was happening.

550
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.839
So you get all this chaos. And then I say,

551
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.920
I say, before it happened, I say, basically, what the

552
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.880
F you can hear it? I mean, I just blurt

553
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.119
I'm the one who because I heard it so clearly

554
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.440
behind me. I never like, I've heard audible voices before,

555
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:02.160
but nothing that loud and clear and definitely seemed perturbed

556
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.400
at us. It was not happy and it was it

557
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.599
seemed like it was just trying to do or say

558
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.400
whatever it needed to to get us out of that space.

559
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.559
And so it's like I can see you, and it's.

560
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.480
Like, oh hey.

561
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:17.920
Wow.

562
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.960
I was like, yeah, you can see us, but we

563
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:23.680
can't see you.

564
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:27.559
So absolutely, what do you think of me as this method.

565
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.799
I think I felt when I've done it the handful

566
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.880
of times, is like, it's very hard to do, just

567
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.000
because I say, you have to be very like, you

568
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.759
have to be very focused on what you're hearing because

569
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.640
you're getting a lot of what's coming through this spirit box,

570
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.559
and sometimes what leeds through is sort of that in

571
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:55.480
between the radio chatter. So you're like trying to discern

572
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:01.279
what sounds different, you know, And so I find it

573
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.480
that it's harder for me to do because it's hard

574
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.359
for me to discern all the time what I'm hearing.

575
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.320
I'm like, is is that? Is that? What you know?

576
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.280
So it's kind of like, wait, what.

577
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:13.840
You know?

578
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.440
Sometimes they'll come through pretty darn clear and it's but

579
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.800
other times you're like, what what was that? Because it's

580
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.039
like very softer kind of whispery. It's not like our

581
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.679
voices are I have no body.

582
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.400
Plus, you have to be pretty trusting who you're with

583
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.559
that they kind of like have your back because you're

584
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.119
you're you're.

585
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.000
Yeah, yeah, that's why they scared the heck out of

586
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.280
They laughed about it afterwards.

587
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:59.079
But yeah, that's yeah. So the whispers of state, Yes,

588
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.880
which is what you just told the story. What I mean,

589
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.199
that's a pretty i would say, a notorious place, like

590
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.880
it's quite active, right, Yeah, it was.

591
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:11.119
We had a lot.

592
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:12.480
Of stuff happened.

593
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:13.639
What else happened.

594
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.800
We heard a lot of we heard a lot of

595
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:20.960
footsteps that we ended up like chasing around the building

596
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.559
because there's three different levels. Well we didn't go to that,

597
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.960
so maybe technically there's four, so I'm trying to thank

598
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:33.800
Basement Maine. Yeah, there's four levels to the place.

599
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:35.639
And so.

600
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.679
Yeah, it was like we would be on one floor

601
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.199
and we would hear above us, like on the floor

602
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:48.599
above us, you'd hear quite purposefully with sounds like footsteps,

603
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.800
like in this one space they have like a living

604
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.559
room area and above it is supposed to be sort

605
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.679
of the master bedroom. And what we heard was sounded

606
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.880
like somebody like jumping from one pair like a like

607
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.400
off a bed where it was like a boom and

608
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:07.559
then you know, and we were like, and there were

609
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.199
two investigators that were upstairs, but they were on the

610
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.559
they were on the top floor, so this happened like

611
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.239
one floor below them.

612
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.559
But we went up anyway, and we're like, hey, was

613
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.760
that you guys walking around the second floor and.

614
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.960
They were like, what are you talking about? And we're like,

615
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.119
there there was footsteps that we heard. It sounded like

616
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.280
somebody jumped and then ran across the floor and they

617
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.920
were like, no, that wasn't us. You know, we were

618
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.119
clear on the other side and on the floor above it,

619
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:46.000
so you know, so that was weird. My friend Jen,

620
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.559
she was using the she was using the bathroom and

621
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.280
as she came out of the bathroom, she said she

622
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.000
heard heard a male voice.

623
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.960
She said it was so loud and in.

624
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:01.800
Her ear it went hey, and she like and she

625
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.960
came out to us and she was like, did you

626
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.719
did you guys, did you order pizza or something or

627
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:09.639
was there a guy in the house. And they're like

628
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.440
we were all like no, We've just been sitting here

629
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.199
talking like what did you hear? And she was like,

630
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:18.840
there was clearly a man's voice that yelled at me

631
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.199
when I got out of the bathroom and just said.

632
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.079
Hey, you know, right in my ear.

633
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.039
And she's like it was a deep man's voice that

634
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.039
just yelled at her. And she was like, that was

635
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.480
like the clearest she's ever heard something say to it,

636
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.519
But she was the only one that heard that, but

637
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.760
and then we went andess they have something called I

638
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:39.360
think it's.

639
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:41.880
A psychomanteum.

640
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:47.480
Okay, so it's this room that is filled with it's

641
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.840
so ceiling floor and all the walls around are all mirrors.

642
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.079
So you get into there, Oh my gosh, it was.

643
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:03.280
It was a experience I will never forget. So we

644
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.320
kind of when we did this thing where we were

645
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.159
going go in there was like I think there was

646
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.719
there was like seven of us. One ended up leaving early,

647
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.320
so there was a perfect amount of like six. So

648
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.760
we went into at a time and and we went

649
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.760
into the room and we just sat in there and

650
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.440
we kind of like tried to gaze our focus like

651
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:32.119
in front of us. But what I saw behind me,

652
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.000
the first time I saw behind me looked like a

653
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.440
The only way I could describe it was it looked

654
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.920
like a goblin.

655
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:44.000
Okay.

656
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.480
It had like weird like pointy ears, and it had

657
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:53.440
like a big mouth that kind of looked distorted like

658
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.880
it was like like open wide but distorted almost like

659
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.239
it was freaky like a horror movie kind of, yeah,

660
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.559
you know, And I wasn't. What was weird is almost

661
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:11.719
one person out of every team that went in there

662
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:12.400
saw the.

663
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.880
Same goblinka wow yeah, and.

664
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.639
We called it because one of them said that it

665
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.599
looked like the girl that she was with.

666
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.559
Her name was Brie. And they said, well, it looks.

667
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.519
Like it looked like Brie, but it looked like goblin Bri,

668
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.679
Like it had like similar face to Brie, but it

669
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.320
was had the ears and it had the mouth open

670
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.360
like they We all described it like afterwards, after everybody

671
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.159
went and we shared like what we had experienced. It

672
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.360
was like we all said, we saw the goblin creature.

673
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.559
And then the other thing is I was next to.

674
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:54.559
A girl named val and she was sitting in a chair.

675
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:58.599
I was sitting on the floor of it, and we

676
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.239
were both looking straight ahead and I could see her

677
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.559
looking straight ahead, but I asked her anyway, because what

678
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.199
I saw was I saw the Valerie that was next

679
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.639
to her in the in the mirror that was next

680
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.840
to her look at me and look back and then

681
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:18.239
look at me and then look back.

682
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:22.920
And I was like, what is happening right now?

683
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.079
And that's like one of those things that happens like

684
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.039
right here. You're like, what the heck?

685
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:28.239
Yeah?

686
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.440
And I so I said, I said vow, I said,

687
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.760
where are you looking at right now, and she was like,

688
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:38.440
I'm looking straight ahead and I was like, well, the

689
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.480
valerie next to you is not looking straight ahead. The

690
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.360
vowel next to you is looking at you and me

691
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.480
and then looking back and then looking at you and

692
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.519
me again. And she was like, Okay, that's that's freaking me.

693
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:50.960
Out right now.

694
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:56.920
Yeah, and then we both the one thing that we

695
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.199
saw together the same thing is we both saw a

696
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:06.199
tall kind of shadow figure behind both of us. So

697
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.559
you know, there there's like obviously theories out there that

698
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:16.320
mirrors are portals to another dimension or different dimensions, and

699
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.159
so we saw many different things in that room and

700
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:25.719
and basically everybody had some sort of similar experiences to that.

701
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.639
But you know, like who builds I mean.

702
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.039
That place is the Whispers of State is very unusual,

703
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:33.760
and I'll just.

704
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.880
Say they build it or did like the people that

705
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:41.400
own it? Now, like that tell me about the whispers

706
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:45.400
of State. That's you said it's in Indiana, right, He's

707
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.519
in Indiana? Yeah, Like does anyone live there or is

708
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.039
it just a there is action type thing? You know?

709
00:41:53.199 --> 00:42:01.199
Well, mostly they have the main house as open for

710
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.280
for investigations from paranoral investigations.

711
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:05.679
So okay, but.

712
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.960
There is a lady who lives on the property and

713
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.280
she sort of is kind of the caretaker I guess

714
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.880
of the property, but she doesn't like live so much,

715
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:18.800
and I don't think she lives in the main house.

716
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.239
Okay, yeah, so it's more of an attraction.

717
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.280
Yeah per se God, yeah, yeah, I would say.

718
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.000
So it's like, who put that what are they called

719
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.000
a psychomantium? Who put that?

720
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.400
I'm not even sure I think it. I'm not sure

721
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.239
if the current owners did it or if somebody else did.

722
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:45.719
But I'm I'm looking at your your Instagram and I

723
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:50.159
just saw as it's scrolling through the pictures. Yeah, all

724
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:56.920
the goblins that are on there's goblins on a dresser.

725
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.719
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that that space.

726
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.800
So that kind but but so that kind of well,

727
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.159
I mean, it's just kind of funny that you guess

728
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.920
every one of you saw in the in the psychoman team,

729
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.079
so that.

730
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:16.480
That space there, and they said, is that that We

731
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.440
didn't really go over and investigate too much because the

732
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.239
floor is rotted out of that area, but they have

733
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.400
it there set up as an altar, and a lot

734
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.880
of people said that it's that that's more devil worshiping,

735
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.280
you would say, but.

736
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.079
Yeah, very similar. I mean they all have those plenty years.

737
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.400
Yeah yeah, yeah, and that place is never I've never

738
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.760
seen so many Ouiji boards in one place, in one location.

739
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.639
Yeah yeah, So I think that place is like I

740
00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:00.719
think they've done everything to create what's there, because not

741
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.320
only they have this psychoman team, but they have the

742
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:07.440
whole They have all those Ouiji boards there, they have

743
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.119
that altar space to whatever it is. I think that

744
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.119
there's been many different times that things have been invited

745
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:16.880
to that space.

746
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:18.440
That's that's my opinion.

747
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.199
And they even on the on the top attic floor

748
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.280
all the way and back they have an area they

749
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.880
call the seance area. So there's many there's so many

750
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:33.000
spaces in that one building that you know that they

751
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.840
invite things to come, and it's just like Okay.

752
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.920
No wonder what no wonder, Yeah, no wonder. There's like

753
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.360
a lot of activity that happens.

754
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.119
I wonder, I wonder if people get the hedchhikers out

755
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:52.760
of there? Yeah, I wonder, you know what I mean? Yeah, Oh,

756
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:59.320
so do you guys take any precautions like after you know,

757
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.199
I mean most people should, but a lot of people don't.

758
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.039
I know that.

759
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:08.480
That's what we've always That's one thing we're big about

760
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.360
is before and after actually investigations. So even before we

761
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.760
want to make sure like we're always practiced and make

762
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.480
sure we're in the right mindset before we're going to

763
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:23.320
go into a space and investigate, especially you don't know

764
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:27.119
what you're going to encounter. So we always just make

765
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.519
sure that we're real intentional about what we want and

766
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.280
what kind of experience and who we're wanting to communicate with.

767
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.239
So we're always like, we only want like who is.

768
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.239
Right, the only we want like positive, We want to

769
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.559
encounter positive spirits who want to communicate back to us

770
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.639
positively right, And so we're always like, we're going to

771
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:55.199
remain respectful. We don't we don't instigate, We're not going

772
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.000
to try and provoke anything. We only believe, like we

773
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:03.360
wholeheartedly leave we might be communicating with, you know, actual

774
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:04.760
human spirits.

775
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.840
And so we always want to say, you know, if.

776
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.719
That were us, we want to be treated with respect,

777
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.440
And so we always walk into a space saying we

778
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.960
are only here out of respect. We just want to

779
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.480
hear your story if you're willing to share with us,

780
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.880
and you know that's all we want if you you know,

781
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.320
we don't want to invade your space. We don't want

782
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.760
to like you don't want us here, we'll go kind

783
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.800
of thing. But we always try to to do it

784
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.840
that way. And then always when we're leaving, we're always going.

785
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.480
We always tell the spirits like, you know, it's thank

786
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.199
you for communicating with us kind of, it's been great.

787
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.920
But you stay here. You're not allowed to follow us,

788
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.679
you know, yes, exactly, you do not belong with us.

789
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.159
We don't take any hitchhikers with us, and so and

790
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.519
then we make sure that as as soon as we

791
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.880
walk out of the space where we're usually either you know, staging,

792
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:11.599
and we always carry protective stones on us during an investigation. Yeah,

793
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.159
so we always take those precautionary measures. Yeah.

794
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.480
I can't show you, but up here, I just have

795
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.119
a whole like dresser lined with stones and crystals.

796
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:30.119
Yeah, yeah, they do.

797
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:37.880
And you say, like, so often you get folks that,

798
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.679
you know, think that even that is bad, like the

799
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:46.079
natural stone, like no, like I feel like there's something

800
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.960
to the fact that they have power. So yep, and

801
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:54.760
I've always you know, it's always done me. Well, I mean,

802
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.119
the one time I got provocative and like with pushing,

803
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:05.239
things didn't end well right never again, you know, And

804
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.440
it's one of those things like just if you if

805
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:13.840
you're respectful and whatnot, usually good things happen or at

806
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.239
least you have encounters right right right.

807
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.639
Also, go ahead, Oh, I was going to say, that's

808
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.119
that's one of the things we've talked about many times

809
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.519
that we've noticed that it's definitely like who you investigate with, Yes,

810
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.800
that the energies are either attracted to or they're not.

811
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.320
For the most part, we have had really good luck

812
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.880
with because we've always like the people that I go

813
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.920
investigate with, we just have a really good like.

814
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:41.519
Vibe with each other.

815
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.199
And I think that that goes a long way because

816
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.679
then like the energies, yeah, they want to they're attracted

817
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:50.159
to that.

818
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.360
They you know, feed off of our energy we believe anyway.

819
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:58.960
So if we have that good positive you know, mindset

820
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:05.280
and intention and you know, wanting to communicate and you know,

821
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.400
all of us together, then it works out well.

822
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.199
I Finally, if you go with people that are too skeptical,

823
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:16.639
you just don't get you don't get the same activity,

824
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:19.599
which is you want the people that are skeptical to

825
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.159
have the experience. But I think that's part of the problem,

826
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.480
is that if they're not open to it, why why

827
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:30.679
would a spirit or an entity you want to you

828
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.559
know what? Why what? Because most of them just are

829
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.880
doing what they do. You know, they're not trying to

830
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:42.440
be malevolent or anything like that necessarily. I mean, I

831
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:48.840
don't really I've not come across that. But I find

832
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.880
that if you're with people that are in the same

833
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.239
you know, energy wise, that are in the same zone,

834
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:56.599
that things happen.

835
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:58.280
Yeah.

836
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.559
Yeah, which is going to be interesting because you know,

837
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.639
my my husband was he comes with on some investigations,

838
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.920
but but not everyone. But he's going to come a

839
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.000
little bit more this year than he has in the past.

840
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.400
But you know, he he caused himself an open minded skeptic.

841
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:18.880
Yes, and that's and and you know what, that's good.

842
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.960
Usually the energy is pretty good that way. Yeah.

843
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:23.079
Sometimes, but.

844
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.960
Then yeah, he because he keeps saying like he wants

845
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:32.440
he wants to have like the that it has to

846
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.960
happen to him, to him to believe you know what

847
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:38.119
I mean, and which is true. I mean it's like

848
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:41.119
if you've never had it happened to you before. I mean,

849
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.400
like I said, that's how it opened the doorway to

850
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.679
me when I was young. But if you don't have

851
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.280
ever have like that kind of experience, then like it

852
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:52.039
does leave you.

853
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:56.199
I think, you know questioning, which.

854
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.519
You know, a fair amount of skepticism is healthy because

855
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:03.440
I think you can't believe that everything is parentormal either,

856
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:06.000
but so you kind of have to look at some

857
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.280
of the the logical side of it and kind of

858
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:14.079
like try to debunk certain things and then like if

859
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.599
if you can't, then maybe it.

860
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:21.599
Is yeah for sure. Yeah, So what is the what

861
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.320
is the like if you think of like your best

862
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.199
experience and I don't mean best is in like the

863
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:35.960
best like your your most active or your most memorable

864
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.079
experience that you've ever had.

865
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.400
Yeah, well, I think like the Harriman one recently was

866
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:44.440
pretty amazing.

867
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.079
It's hard to it's hard to beat because it was

868
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:52.920
just so it was so just right, yeah, literally right there.

869
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.280
But I think the other place that we had a

870
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.599
lot of activity at it was it was pretty pretty

871
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.519
good with another hospital. It was Old South Pittsburgh Hospital,

872
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:10.800
which is yeah, they've and it's actually, believe it or not,

873
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.199
the same. The owner of Old South Pittsburgh owns Harriman

874
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:20.920
as well. So, but I don't know if it's I

875
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.920
want to say that it has more to do with

876
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.840
not just the hospital that itself, but what where the

877
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:33.960
hospital lies. I think it's more like the land that

878
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.480
has that ends up keeping the energy. I mean, I

879
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.840
subscribe to the to the theory of of like stone

880
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.559
tape theory, you know, uh, which I'm gonna be going

881
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.480
across and doing. I think I'm at maybe six or

882
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.360
seven different para cons this year where I'm going to

883
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.239
be doing some workshops on stone tape theory, place memory,

884
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:02.639
and uh stigma theory. So yeah, it seems like in

885
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.239
the experiences that we have in some of the research

886
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:10.360
that we've done afterwards about the locations, that there is

887
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:16.199
a lot to do with like the the foundation of

888
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.760
the building or what the building's made out of, and

889
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:24.159
sometimes what another thing is water that moves through the

890
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.239
property or close proximity to the property, and that seems

891
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:32.159
to either either We're not sure if it's either trap

892
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.480
or help amplify the energy, but somehow it does give

893
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.559
it does give a little bit more if you want

894
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.199
to like the energies and like old South Pittsburgh, we

895
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.159
had like a lot of a lot of different experiences there.

896
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:52.320
It wasn't just one type of phenomena that we were getting.

897
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.800
We were getting like I have with me, like a

898
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:01.000
thermal camera that that I'll take it on an investigations,

899
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.239
and I caught like and they call it that shadow hallway,

900
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.960
and it's just it's it's like a long hallway where

901
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.679
there's patient rooms on either side. So they were basically

902
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:19.679
hospital rooms. And and I got a multiple like even

903
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.039
on video two of where it looks like in front

904
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:27.719
of every doorway to a room, there's a shadow.

905
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:28.760
Figure and it's cold.

906
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:33.760
It's not like our body temperature because he is like

907
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.679
reading red hot or white in certain spots, but this

908
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.599
was dark blue, and.

909
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:42.360
They were in the side.

910
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.320
They were in the shape of a person, and there

911
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:51.880
was one in every single doorway. But then with we

912
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.280
were investigating with one of our friends named Justin and

913
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.960
he's very he's psychically in tune, and he walked into

914
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.760
the middle of that hallway and like all.

915
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.639
Of them moved.

916
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:07.039
From their spots in the doorway out to him, and

917
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.880
he was like and he was telling other investigators that

918
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.719
we had with him. It was some first time investigators

919
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.480
with us and he brought them around and he was like,

920
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:20.719
can you feel the cold spots? And he was like pointing,

921
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.719
and he had and I had the thermal camera at him,

922
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.360
and he's like touching the spots where he's telling people

923
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.440
where they are. He's actually on a cold spot, like

924
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.519
you could see it right with the thermal camera where

925
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.840
it shaped like. And he said he felt like they

926
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.800
were children, and they were all about the height of children, right,

927
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.320
So he's like, I feel like it's the energy of

928
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.360
children all around me. And really that's what it looked like.

929
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:51.119
So that was pretty amazing. Yeah, Yeah, to catch on

930
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:56.320
thermal and then we caught we got on digital video,

931
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:00.960
on digital recorders or audio recorders. We got we've got footsteps,

932
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:02.280
we've got voices.

933
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:05.119
Like I was saying something.

934
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.320
I audibly heard it, but I didn't hear patch what

935
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.840
it said because we were just talking.

936
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:11.400
And a lot of times what you'll.

937
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.519
Hear and why I recommend that if you are just

938
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.519
even if you're if you're investigating, and you're just kind

939
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.760
of sitting around chat chit chatting amongst each other in

940
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:26.519
a space that I would say, keep your digital recorders running.

941
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:33.039
What happens is they seem to be attracted to our

942
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:39.039
conversations of what we're talking about. Because we were talking about,

943
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:42.440
like we were saying of some of the experiences that

944
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.199
the other investigators had. They were saying, yeah, you know,

945
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.719
I was hearing movement above me and you know, and

946
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.039
then and she was like, yeah, I was hearing footsteps

947
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.039
in the other room. And then and then I heard

948
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.559
something whisper, and I and you can hear me audibly

949
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:02.400
say did you guys heard that whispering? And they were

950
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.199
like no, And then they went and played it back

951
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.599
later and it basically was answering our well, it was

952
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.880
kind of responding to our questions or and where it

953
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.480
was saying where we were saying all these things, like

954
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.599
we were hearing these noises and footsteps and noises above

955
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.320
and it just responded saying sorry.

956
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.599
What it was like, sorry, it was me. Sorry, Yeah,

957
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.199
I know. It's kind of like so we had that happen.

958
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.239
And then even like downstairs, there's this one area there

959
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.519
and there was a caretaker that lived there and he

960
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.400
ended up passing away. He had like he went into

961
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.679
like I think a diave outic coma or something right

962
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:48.159
there in his apartment down in that in the first

963
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.320
floor and his name is Jim, and we had him

964
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:55.079
like he was he was very communicative on a spirit

965
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.920
box that we had where he was answering questions outright

966
00:57:59.159 --> 00:57:59.760
on the sphere.

967
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.239
Yeah, it was it was.

968
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.760
That was pretty amazing because you know, sometimes it's like

969
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.960
hit or miss, but he was definitely having a back

970
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.480
and forth conversation and he was even he was even

971
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:17.039
like commenting on things we were talking about with one another,

972
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:17.719
like he.

973
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.199
Would chime in on that or something.

974
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:25.360
And I think somebody said something like, I'm trying to

975
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.280
forget remember the exact phrase he used, but we were

976
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:34.599
alluding to the fact that maybe he was he was responding.

977
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:36.440
I think one of the.

978
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:40.480
Guys said like, oh, you know, is Jim just responding

979
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:43.559
to the girls because you know, he thinks he thinks

980
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.199
you guys are.

981
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.360
Good looking or whatever?

982
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.960
Right, he responded to something said something like oh you

983
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.199
bet I did you know?

984
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:58.039
Yeah, He's like, what what do you think?

985
00:58:59.239 --> 00:58:59.519
You know?

986
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:00.000
He was.

987
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:02.360
Yeah, it was pretty funny.

988
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.599
Like we got a lot there was there's a lot

989
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:09.760
of activity there. A lot of people had experiences too,

990
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.239
so it was kind of like we had what we

991
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:16.519
evidence that we took away plus like our experience, so

992
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:20.320
it kind of made for to really like you know,

993
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.800
round about a good investigation, an active one.

994
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:29.880
Yeah, so we have to two questions left. Two The

995
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.679
first one is what do you think is going on? Like?

996
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:34.400
What is your.

997
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:38.159
Theory that I think is happening?

998
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.960
Ghosts? What are they? Like? I mean, is it echoes

999
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:49.960
of the past in some cases? Is it actually the

1000
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.840
spirit is still here and hasn't crossed over? Like? What

1001
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:56.239
what do you think is going on?

1002
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.639
I think it there's there's multiple things happening at the

1003
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.800
same time. I think there are residual hauntings, which is

1004
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.360
what stone tape.

1005
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:08.519
Theory really is.

1006
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:11.360
Is that then it's a residual haunt So I think

1007
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:17.440
that in some cases, yes, there's you know, something that's

1008
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.079
getting played over and over.

1009
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:25.400
Recorded because I mean, and which totally makes sense because

1010
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.440
if you think about like even data, right, Yeah, one

1011
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.239
of the storage mechanisms, especially for like quantum stuff is

1012
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:40.159
crystals or you know, and like quartz is just a rock.

1013
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.000
I mean, it's it's more rock, but you know what

1014
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.840
I mean, Yeah, you can record data on those, so

1015
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:46.639
that would make.

1016
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.199
Sense, isn't Like most of our computer chips.

1017
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.960
Are made there's there's quarts in them, right, yeah, correct,

1018
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.760
Uh so so that makes sense with that, but what

1019
01:00:58.880 --> 01:00:59.800
about the like.

1020
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:05.280
The intelligent haunt, right, yeah, Like I think the intelligent haunt,

1021
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:09.880
I don't know. I want to say that they're on

1022
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:11.199
another plane of.

1023
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:17.239
Existence, like another dimension we can't we.

1024
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.960
Can't always perceive, but somehow it kind of like it's

1025
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:27.159
certain locations that either have there something is different about

1026
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.000
the location than just normal spots.

1027
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:30.679
Let's just say.

1028
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:35.519
Although I do believe that we're probably walking amongst you know,

1029
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:43.000
spirits all the time, but I think that in certain spots,

1030
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:47.800
like historical locations, seem to be pretty prevalent, right with

1031
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:52.559
these energies. But I think that that's where like it

1032
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:56.840
intersects where we get like we were able to pick

1033
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.679
up more of them, or they're able to interact a

1034
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.679
little bit it more with us because.

1035
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:08.679
There's thinner spots or yes, exactly to absorb enough energy

1036
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:11.199
to yeah whatever.

1037
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:14.480
Yeah, yeah, but I just think there are just like

1038
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.639
just on a on a just a different plane of

1039
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:18.920
existence than.

1040
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:23.880
Than we are, but like a different dimension. Yes, makes sense,

1041
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:27.440
I mean it does, actually to me, it does, a

1042
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.559
lot of people have no idea what I'm talking about,

1043
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:30.760
but I feel like you do.

1044
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:36.159
Yeah, yeah, And it's and it's crazy because I'm you know,

1045
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.760
on the podcast that a co host. We've had multiple

1046
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.440
people on in just a different variety of of the

1047
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:49.320
paranormal talking about like you know, cryptids, UFOs and and

1048
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:53.639
one question I like to ask is about even scientists.

1049
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.039
So we have like we had Mark d' antonio. I

1050
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.440
don't know if you know who he is, but he's yeah,

1051
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:03.960
so you know, he's an astronomer, he's pretty, he's a

1052
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:08.920
preally pretty sciencey guy. But so I asked him, I'm like,

1053
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:13.400
you know, there seems to be like this correlation between

1054
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:18.480
like the phenomena that happens with ghosts, with aliens, with

1055
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.119
cryptids sometimes you know, especially on like hit Skinwalker Ranch

1056
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:25.679
or something, they have all of like all the phenomena there.

1057
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.280
But it's like it seems like there's so many similarities

1058
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.719
to him and he and he's like, yeah, you know

1059
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.239
there is, and and he said, you're going to start

1060
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.719
to notice that more and more scientists are going to

1061
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.719
come out and say that they do believe that there

1062
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:50.760
is this intersection between one dimension and another. And he's like,

1063
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.880
when you get those intersections is when you're going to

1064
01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:58.159
see activity happen, right, you know, Solasthra I kind of

1065
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:00.639
like it made the most sense to me when he

1066
01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:05.000
said that too. That I was like, yeah, I can

1067
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:05.599
see that.

1068
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:06.000
You know.

1069
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:07.119
It's kind of like.

1070
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.480
It's kind of like the same thing when they talk

1071
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:14.440
about like a wormhole, Like now it's like spending space

1072
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.320
and time, like if you took a piece of paper

1073
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.320
and you folded it over and then you poked a

1074
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:23.039
hole through, like you're transversing from one plane to the

1075
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.400
next through this wormhole, which is also known as a portal.

1076
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.800
Right, so right, so.

1077
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.360
That's where I think like a lot of activity can

1078
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.639
come through. So maybe these historically charged, in particular thin

1079
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:46.199
spaces might be portals allowing these energies to come through

1080
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.480
and be a little bit more powerful than they they

1081
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:54.320
normally are and walk than when they walk around us.

1082
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.679
And it is all energy. Yeah, at the end of

1083
01:04:57.719 --> 01:04:58.880
the day, it's all energy.

1084
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.920
Yeah, it can never be it can be created but

1085
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:03.159
not destroyed.

1086
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:07.400
Right, correct, And yeah, my audience is sick of hearing

1087
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:11.480
about it. But what we see is humans is so

1088
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:17.800
narrow row. Yeah, I'm the electromagnetic scale because that's what

1089
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:26.000
it's all is visual hearing, all of it. It's all electromagnetical, mathemagnetical, electromagnetic, right,

1090
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:32.639
it always, and that is immense. So I just think,

1091
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:37.119
like you know, they're they're and it's all frequency, so

1092
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:41.199
they're all everybody's working on different frequency.

1093
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:46.960
So yeah, like they say, like vibrational, yes, absolutely, you know.

1094
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:51.280
They just might be in a different vibrational state than

1095
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:51.679
we are.

1096
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:52.599
Correct.

1097
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.400
Sometimes we can we can attune to that frequency or

1098
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.159
that vibration and then then we get that activity.

1099
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.280
Yeah. The other thing that I have I see auras,

1100
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:10.400
and I actually see auras. I can't. I can't see

1101
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:16.079
them though onlike you know things I guess you could

1102
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:21.199
say like only on people or dogs, like I can

1103
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:24.519
see them on animals as well, but not but not

1104
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:29.519
on you know, like because I'm telling you there's been

1105
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:33.039
times when I know there's something there, like a like

1106
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.760
a cryptid, I'll say, bigfoot. I know it's there, like

1107
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.840
I can feel it, I know it, but I can't

1108
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.400
see it. And even even at night, like if I

1109
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.239
know someone's there, I can tune in and see them

1110
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.079
like I can see there. It's it's it's hard to

1111
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:54.679
explain but it's like I can see their aura, right, yeah,

1112
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:59.960
but I can't see theirs, which is weird to me.

1113
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.159
So that's why I kind of veer off, and I

1114
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:05.119
don't want to go down this route now what we're

1115
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:07.920
talking about. But this is why I veer away from

1116
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:14.480
the flesh and blood type theory of bigfoot, because because

1117
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.400
I would, I would be I can't think of a

1118
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.199
living thing that I can't see their aura and I

1119
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:21.800
can't see there.

1120
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:27.119
Yeah, unless they are a different being from another.

1121
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.639
Correct or they have a totally different vibration that's going

1122
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.639
on because we all vibrate it the same frequency. Mostly

1123
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:41.079
there's obviously fluctuations, but yeah, so it's all frequency and

1124
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.000
that's what I'm seeing truly. Yeah, I just did. It

1125
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:51.280
manifests itself as light light to me. Some people see music. Yeah,

1126
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.480
I mean that's like a real thing. I can imagine

1127
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:55.159
what that's like.

1128
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.239
I would people that say they can taste cold.

1129
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:06.840
Right, things like that. But again, it's all right frequency,

1130
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:12.320
it's all the same. So it's really cool. So last question, Yes, shoot,

1131
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.720
the name of this podcast is broadcasting seeds. I'm all about,

1132
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:22.600
you know, planting seeds in people's minds. What so i'd

1133
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:24.800
lie to you. I guess, I guess. I asked two

1134
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:30.520
questions an episode. What is the seed that you could

1135
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:35.079
plant in the listener's mind the listener's viewers' minds that

1136
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:39.279
like changed your life, or you think it would be

1137
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:44.319
something cool for them to go explore and try to

1138
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:45.640
harvest at a later date.

1139
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:50.760
Oh, and that's a good question. I'm just I would

1140
01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:55.359
just say maybe the best thing to do is to

1141
01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:00.920
just be curious. Like I think that I think in

1142
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.279
my perspective, I think that everything is possible.

1143
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:14.359
We don't we yeah, exactly, we don't. We really don't this.

1144
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.680
I mean, we can't even wrap our minds around how

1145
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:23.359
big the universe is. Like there's no way that like

1146
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:25.720
these things couldn't be true.

1147
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:26.439
You know what I mean.

1148
01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:32.800
There's everything exist, the possibility of everything exists. So I

1149
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.720
would say, just be curious and be open to the

1150
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:40.079
possibility of what there could be out there.

1151
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:42.439
Of everything, of everything.

1152
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.600
And it's like you hear the universe is vast, but

1153
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:50.039
then why does it have to be though?

1154
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.680
You know what I mean, Like it's yeah, then if

1155
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:56.279
you go you'll you'll you could go crazy because you think, like, well,

1156
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.760
if they the universe is only let's just say, contained

1157
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.319
in you know, this amount of space that.

1158
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:05.640
Into the flat earth type stuff.

1159
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:08.520
Yeh think.

1160
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.319
I don't know, you know, I mean I don't necessarily

1161
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:18.399
subscribe to that, but if I'm open, yeah.

1162
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.199
I mean, who knows.

1163
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:26.239
Exactly, just be open to the possibility that that things

1164
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.159
can be a lot weirder than we even can possibly imagine,

1165
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:35.000
like because we can only I think our imaginations were only.

1166
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.119
Limited by that, right, Yeah, And where.

1167
01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:41.960
We learn new stuff, Even scientists learn new stuff daily

1168
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.880
when they find like they didn't even know you know,

1169
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.720
until they started exploring like that quantum realm.

1170
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:54.880
You know, it's like.

1171
01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.520
It was like that, and and like how does how

1172
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.319
does this since predict everything?

1173
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:09.159
Absolutely? No, you're right or south Park right.

1174
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:15.039
Yeah, it's like, hey, they seem to be tapped into something.

1175
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.119
Going on here, something's going on.

1176
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.800
So it's a little weird. But hey, like you said

1177
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:23.279
in the beginning, high strangeness.

1178
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:28.039
Right for sure. And we don't know anything about we don't.

1179
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.720
We don't even know in the ocean. We don't even

1180
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:31.800
know that.

1181
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:34.119
We don't know space, we don't know ocean, we don't

1182
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:37.479
know like even we're learning new species all the time.

1183
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.560
So who's to say we don't turn around tomorrow and

1184
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:42.479
hey there's Bigfoot.

1185
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:44.760
As soon as you as soon as you think you

1186
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.920
know something you don't know, you're like, wait.

1187
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:52.800
Another thing that will like blow your mind to is

1188
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:57.640
is I was the lady whom who who's working with

1189
01:11:57.680 --> 01:11:58.079
me now?

1190
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:04.560
But she uh, she also like is doing a show called.

1191
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.319
Twenty four Hours in Hell and it's where they actually

1192
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:11.560
they go to Hell House and that that's where the

1193
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:17.720
film franchise was was took place in this actual location.

1194
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.680
And I guess you know what the normally what that

1195
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.399
is is it's a haunted attraction.

1196
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:26.279
And so.

1197
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:33.279
What has happened though, is that phenomena that happens like

1198
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.680
that the attraction like goes out, you know, tries to

1199
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.319
scare people, right, and people come in there and they

1200
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.319
have you know, they get all freaked out and scared

1201
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.000
and and that kind of thing. But then what's really

1202
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:50.479
happening is that it's turning into real phenomena that's happened,

1203
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.279
that's existing, that's mimicking.

1204
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.239
The haunt, right, So what's wow?

1205
01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.399
Yeah, so they call it she said, I Yes, there's

1206
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:05.800
a Native American where they call it a dope dopa

1207
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.199
and it's I think.

1208
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:07.800
That's what it's called.

1209
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:11.279
Sounds familiar, but topa, that's what it is.

1210
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:13.399
But it's basically it's just said. They call it a

1211
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:14.079
thought form.

1212
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.520
So it's kind of like what people sometimes it's not

1213
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.960
just thoughts, but it's the emotion. So what the people

1214
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:26.920
feel comes comes true what people like think. And you've

1215
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:29.520
heard of certain kind of cryptis where people have thought

1216
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.439
it into existence.

1217
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:32.800
And mimics like that.

1218
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:36.720
Yeah, exactly. They said that there's one of that. There's

1219
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.039
one that's that's a mimic there on the at the

1220
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:42.239
Hell House location too.

1221
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:44.079
But it's crazy.

1222
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:47.840
So it's kind of like, you know, only four hours

1223
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:48.439
in hell.

1224
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:50.439
Twenty four hours in hell.

1225
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:56.359
Yeah, okay, yeah, brave people, brave folks.

1226
01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.119
I know there's many of them out there.

1227
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:05.920
Hey, I'm people think I'm insane, but whatever.

1228
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:07.560
I know, I just want to.

1229
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.880
I know, I just want to know, and what's the

1230
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.760
worst that's going to happen. I mean, that's kind of

1231
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.079
how I look at it. But I don't want to

1232
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.279
become a missing for one one case either, But you know.

1233
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:25.560
That's a whole other thing.

1234
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:32.840
I did stop going places on my own. I'll do that,

1235
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:39.239
it's probably bad news. So anyway, Rachel, thank you so

1236
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:43.359
much for coming. It's been fun and I will have

1237
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:44.000
to do it again.

1238
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:47.640
Yeah, yeah, I love that.

1239
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:52.600
Absolutely, come on, talk about something else, like, yeah, the

1240
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:54.079
world of Bigfoot.

1241
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:56.319
Yeah, I'll just reach out and be like, so, what

1242
01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:57.520
do you want to talk about this time?

1243
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:01.079
Yeah? Absolutely sounds like a plan.

1244
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:06.439
All right. I appreciate you coming on and thank you again.

1245
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:10.600
So yeah, thank you. Let's see that I.

1246
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.239
Got bad thoughts that make my mind scared, hold me

1247
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.319
hostage and they don't fight fair? Who gonna pray for me?

1248
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:18.960
And wipe brought my tests? Who's gonna save me? If

1249
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:21.760
you're not right here over this darkness and make my

1250
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.800
sight clear? Take me your way because I don't like her.

1251
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:27.239
Goes to my past day villa in the night here,

1252
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:38.680
wake me up and trapped in my nightmass. You trapped in.

1253
01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:52.760
My nightmass, trying and trying, and I move the deepen apparition.

1254
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.720
Some of all my demons are my thoughts. I come

1255
01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:01.000
making trees it all alone. Who's gonna hear me screaming manifestations?

1256
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:04.239
And my fis regrets that stretched out for light years,

1257
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:07.039
you can almost touch the light holies right there, body

1258
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:11.079
free but tracting my Nightmas. I don't let me ja,

1259
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.079
I life of Faid.

1260
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:18.039
All my life is faith, All my life is faced,

1261
01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:18.399
and that.

1262
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:22.960
Way I'm don't missus, Jenny. My life is fading.

1263
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.159
My life is fading.

1264
01:16:36.119 --> 01:17:13.159
Will you trapped in my Nightmas? Like wool

1265
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:25.159
A