Dec. 23, 2025

The Little Season, Dark Ages, and the War for Truth with JT

The Little Season, Dark Ages, and the War for Truth with JT
The Little Season, Dark Ages, and the War for Truth with JT
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
The Little Season, Dark Ages, and the War for Truth with JT
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In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, host Bennett Tanton sits down with JT, a content creator and truth seeker, to unpack his powerful awakening that began in 2020. Together, they dive deep into biblical truth, ancient history, and the hidden forces shaping modern narratives. This conversation explores the Bible as historical foundation, the mysteries of the Dark Ages, and the lasting influence of the Roman Empire on faith, doctrine, and civilization. JT connects ancient myths, suppressed history, and modern belief systems, challenging listeners to rethink what they’ve been taught about truth and reality. The discussion also examines biblical prophecy, including the controversial concept of the “Little Season” from the Book of Revelation, and draws timeless lessons from the Book of Job on suffering, obedience, and faith under pressure. Throughout the episode, themes of spiritual warfare, Christian faith, truth seeking, and community take center stage. This episode is for listeners interested in:

  • Biblical prophecy and end times
  • Ancient history and suppressed knowledge
  • Faith, Christianity, and spiritual awakening
  • Conspiracy theories examined through a biblical lens
  • The Roman Empire, the Dark Ages, and hidden history
  • Truth seeking in a world of deception
If you’re searching for high strangeness grounded in Scripture, conversations about faith vs deception, and a deeper look at how history, prophecy, and belief intersect, this episode plants some serious seeds.

JT Links:

https://jtfollowsjc.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@jtfollowsjc


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Podcast Stas Podcast Staces.

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Truth in the Minds of the beat though. All right, everybody,

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welcome to another episode of the Broadcasting Seeds podcast. Today

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We've got JT on the show. JT, can you tell

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us who you are, what you do and where people

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can find you?

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Yeah?

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And so, yeah, my initials are JT and so my

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handle on pretty much all my social media is JT

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follows JC, and I'm a Christian. I'm a christ follower

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first you can tell by the name, hopefully, and I

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am somebody who is a truther. I used to kind

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of wear the conspiracy theorist on my sleeve, but conspiracy

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he's got so dumb lately. So I'm trying to have

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beside the truth part of it because sometimes people are

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just continue to look for a conspiracy when they're when

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the truth is steering them dead in the face and

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they don't want to see it. So yeah, So I mean, ultimately,

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I want to funnel people to Christ, regardless of what

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the topic is, because I believe that all truth definitely

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leads back to Jesus. And yeah, so I'm I started

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making content a few years ago. I started on TikTok.

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Then I gradually moved over to some of the other socials,

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started a podcast, and now I'm on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,

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you can find me on Apple or Spotify. And yeah,

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if you'd like the weird kind of stuff, the stuff

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that you don't really get here on Sunday mornings in church,

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but also get to hear the gospel, that's you might

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like some of the stuff I post.

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Absolutely, absolutely so the first question I love to ask

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everybody is what what was your gateway drug into this

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high this like world of high strangeness in general, because

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I know we talked about more than just the Bible.

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It's quite expansive.

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So absolutely, Yeah, the rabbit hole seems to be bottomless.

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And so twenty twenty was my wake up year.

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I was kind of done the normal, kind of traditional

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American white picket fence type thing before that, and I

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was just kind of going about seeking the American dream.

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And then I realized the American dream is a nightmare,

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it's not real, And twenty twenty really exposed a lot

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of those things to me. And I had a personal

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crisis at the time, and during that time, I had

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a Christian background, So I've been a believer.

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I would say I've been a believer since I.

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of time in my life where I was walking on

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the edge of like being lukewarm. And then it was

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in twenty twenty when I was really thinking, man, it

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seems like things are really accelerating. You know, I've been

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watching the Left Behind movies since I was a baby,

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and now I'm like, are we really on the press that?

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And it did seem possible to me at that point,

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And of course since then, I started to seek God.

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I started to do a lot of research, read books,

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listen to a lot of podcasts, and before you know it,

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I felt like God kind of gave me like a

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little bit of a nudge that you need to start

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saying some of the things you've been learning. And then

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through that, yeah, my first kind of conspiracy was just

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the End Times conspiracy. But one of the ones that

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I think that maybe I was being primed for for

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a while was the Nephlum Genesis six, the Book of Enoch.

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kind of a maybe like a comic book background. I

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used to watch all I watched a million movies kind

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of I'm of that generation where me and my friends

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have seen every movie multiple times. Yeah, And I think

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that when I discovered Genesis six, that was such a

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mind blowing thing. Growing up in the church and reading

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the Book of Genesis I don't know how many times.

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part about the sons of God taking wives of the

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daughters of men and creating this race of giants?

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watch that show Ancient Aliens yep. And as a Christian,

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I really never believed in aliens, but the show was

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the questions they were asking were very interesting and very mysterious,

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all the megaliths and the mythologies all around the world.

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this actually makes sense in a biblical worldview. And after

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that I was kind of like I was making the

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connections between like these heroes of old men of renown

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in modern comic books, you know the Superman, the Superman,

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you know, the Thores and I thought the x men,

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I'm like, this sounds just like what they're describing. And

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so when I started to kind of put the pieces

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together of like the symbolism and the movies and kind

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of the stories that are these retelling of these mythologies

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and other the more modern versions, but it's still the

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same stories. And yeah, when I connected that with Greek mythology,

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like I just couldn't get enough. I was like, this

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is really interesting. It makes sense to me that these

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mythologies are repeated not because they're completely made up. It's

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because there is some kind of a kernel of truth

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in there somewhere. And then you kind of tie in

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all the mythologies all around the world where there's stories

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of gods from the heavens, there's giants and then there's

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a massive flood, and you know that story is is

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a story that's like in our DNA, and I think

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that that's why they continue to be told to us today.

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Absolutely, I mean everything rhymes right for sure. It's one

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of those things I love is the uh you know

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we talk about l And and Superman and the name

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Killel and from the House of l.

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Yeah, son, Yeah, I remember it was in the Man

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of Steel movie, there's a scene between Zod and Superman's

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mom and she's like, he is Cal, son of l

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Like so on the nose.

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It's like he's like Cal's son of God. When you

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realize the l and elohem is a biblical term, it's

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like a Hebrew term for for a God.

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Absolutely just amazing. Yeah, yeah, very similar to my story

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and to an extent, you know, with the with the

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whole generation and just flowing into the stuff. I For me,

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it was I listened to a lot of Coast to

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Coast d AM as a kid and younger adult, and

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that was that was the avenue at that point. We

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didn't really have the per se and podcasts weren't nothing yet.

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Right, You're listening to the radio at like.

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Three in the morning, you know, sitting up on duty

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or driving the work or whatever. Just crazy. Yeah. So

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so moving on from there, where can people find you?

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Oh?

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Yeah, like I said, you can check me over on YouTube.

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If you like to watch like short reels, you can

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check it out on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook.

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And what's your place that you really like to drive? People?

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My YouTube.

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I mean, because I started off making short videos and

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eventually you know, the kind of like a lot of

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us want to do is that I felt like that,

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you know, for us content creators like TikTok is the

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minor leagues, and then YouTube's got to the major leagues.

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And so I mean, you know, I like making short videos,

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or at least I used to like making them a lot,

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because I would be telling people and bite sized things

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that blew my mind. But then when you do research more,

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there's so much more context that goes into like a

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like even like a sixty second reel, all the other

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kind of knowledge that you need to kind of have

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the framework of the foundation of And so I mean,

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I'm like one of those people who say, ye, it

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is all connected, right, Like, so these things are all connected.

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So when I can present it in a podcast from

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an hour to two hours, I can give people a

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lot more than just Okay, here's something to blow your mind.

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But it's like, but how did you get there? Show

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your steps, and show it how it relates to all

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the things in the modern world, like because some people

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would be like, well, why does giants or nephelum or

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angels really matter today in twenty twenty five, Well, it

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matters because that it's there's symbols, there's language, and there's

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just like an etymology of words. They're all tying us

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back to this antidiluvian time. And then I think believe

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in the times of Jesus as well, that there's hints

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of like what they're actually saying to us. And that's

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why I said that, you know, when you see like

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I showed, like ancient aliens, they're presenting a perspective that

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I believe is not biblical, but there is a story

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that kind of is they're trying why they're pushing aliens

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into our past and or I believe to maybe create

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a deception for the future.

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Are now really.

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Absolutely and that you know, more than likely the aliens

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are other things like the fallen or whatever you want,

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you know, very possibly, very possibly, very possibly. So so

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let me ask, could could you walk us through as

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you said that this all kind of came about twenty

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twenty ish and that you know, you you started also

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re examining history and like conventional religious mindsets, right, so

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what could you walk us through the process for evaluating

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like accepted history versus what you consider hidden truth.

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Well, like I say, my foundation is is the Bible,

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you know. So I think I started off with like

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most people, when you go to church, you're told what

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it says before you ever read it, you know. So

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it's it's really hard to separate that, and people don't

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even realize they've been indoctrinated to what it says before

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they ever read it. And I'm not saying necessarily been

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taught wrong, but I think that when I did wake

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up in twenty twenty, I had to kind of come

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to the realization that I've been told a lot of

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lies in my life, and so I had to start

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re examining everything. So instead of trying to read into

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the Bible what I already knew, I was just trying

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to read it and just take it at face value.

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I was praying to God saying I want wisdom, I

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want to learn, and through that I started to re

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examine the things that.

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I was told.

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My cat is I'm sorry, my cat is freaking out.

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But yeah, so when I started to behind you see, yeah,

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when I started to do that, but I really started

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to the scripture started to speak to me in a

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whole different way, and that really was my kind of

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my verse would be, you don't let every word of

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God be true if as if every man was a liar.

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And so when I started to check that out, you know,

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sometimes you got to get into like apologetics and you're

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trying to prove things that are in the Bible. And

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then when I was looking into like historical sources to

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kind of prove some stuff, I just really found out

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that history was a big mess.

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You know that.

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I think that people think it's so linear and they

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think that there's receipts back all the way back to

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the times of you know, the flood or Moses or

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even like even to the times of Jesus, And the

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more you look into it, you're like, like, I was

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really trying to present a historical case for lots of things,

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and the more I research history, I just realized that,

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you know, times like the Dark Ages, it's it's called

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that because.

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There's really no history from that time.

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that they don't have any real solid historical record of

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that time. And so I just started to think about

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it like in the way that you know, most people

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who are even half awake, they believe the news is fake.

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So if the news is fake, well, what's news. It's

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a couple of years old. What's fake history? So you'd

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be really naive to believe if the news is fake,

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that history from one hundred years ago, five hundred years ago,

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a thousand years ago could be reliable in the same

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way these people are pushing a narrative. And I believe that, Yeah,

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through religion, organized religion, there's often these people are there's

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bad actors at Paul said that if the devil can

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appear as an angel of light, then it should be

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no great mystery that the devil would appear as a

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worker of righteousness in your church. So so I think

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that's really came down to it. And I think that

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a lot of people who grew up in the church,

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they experienced church hurt. They experienced people who you thought

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were one way the way you saw them, and then

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and you learn who they really were, You're like, this

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is the person I was getting my theology from, you know,

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And it's kind of like that that this bad fruit

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has really kind of spoiled a lot of people.

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And that's what I was going to say, is like,

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how do you because you said at the beginning that

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you have kind of shifted and how you view yourself

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and how you portray it as more of a less

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of a conspiracy theorism, more of a truth. Right, So, like,

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how is how do you define truth in the context

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of faith and history? Now, Like, do you believe there's

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an objective historical truth that transcends like standard academic consensus,

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you know things like that.

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Well, I believe that we have a true north, we

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have a we have a rock, we have God's word,

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and I believe that's true. And so outside of that,

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How are you doing. Sorry, glorious really bit me hard.

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true north, It's our foundation.

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And I think that we live in the age of faith.

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So I think that sometimes, you know, you could want

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to know some things, and I think it's important to

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learn things, but sometimes you have to realize that you're

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never going to know it all. Yeah, And that's okay

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because I think that sometimes too much knowledge, too much,

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too much truth, too much going down the rabbit hole

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doesn't lead you to a great place like kind of

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Solomon says that with much knowledge, as much vexation with

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much wisdom as much sorrow, So sometimes you're like, did

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you really want? Did you really need to know that?

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And I think ultimately it's like some things you learn

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make you sick and you kind of wish you didn't

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know that, But then if you put your faith in God,

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then eventually you can have peace regardless of what being true,

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because because I do believe it, I do believe the

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Gospel's true, so I don't worry about researching things. And

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I think that, you know, the more you kind of

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get on social media, get challenged about certain things, it

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forces you to, I guess, really kind of dig down

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to what you actually believe and if what you believe

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is actually defendable, and I believe the Gospel is, so

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I think that, yeah, when it comes down to conspiracies

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versus the truth, you know, you have to rely on something,

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and so us as Christians, we do rely on God's word.

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And then you get into like some kind of a

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more disturbing things when you realize, yeah, the books have

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been taken out of the Bible. I believe that some

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of the translations we have are not great. But I

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think ultimately, if you put your faith in Jesus, the

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gospel story is actually very simple, so I don't worry

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about it too much. But yeah, the more that I've researched,

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the more I've realized that there's some uncomfortable truths. But ultimately,

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I said, I'm not dissuaded by that. I'm encouraged because

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it always points to Christ.

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Always, right, like scripture and archaeology or archaeology, historical evidence, right.

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How did they interact in your worldview?

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go back to ancient angels or that, well, I should

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say that we actually, my buddy and I, Brian, who

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goes by demon races, we actually created a movie called

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Ancient Angels, and that was the whole point of making

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that was basically to show that the stories of these

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megalists there is a biblical explanation for them. And I

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think that when you do go into like kind of

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a lot of people's rabbit holes they go down with

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like Graham Hancock. Yeah, and you hear about law civilizations

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and you see timelines that you know don't really line

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up with what the Bible says and the story from Adam.

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But I would say that there's a lot of people curse.

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The science is trying to point us to a billion

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your timeline with evolution and all that kind of stuff,

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and dinosaurs.

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And all that kind of stuff.

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That really is meant to pick at what the Bible says.

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But then if I can research and I can show,

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like the archaeology, there is an explanation biblically, well, I

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think I can find confidence in what we're doing because

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I think that I was really kind of unsettled with

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some of the ancient alien stuff because I thought, well,

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this is really weird that there's this connected society we

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don't know how long ago, and what does the Bible

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say about it? But if you read the Book of Enoch,

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it does give you a sort of at least an

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explanation of how this could have been lost. So if

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there was a giant flood, well maybe that would have

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been what separated us from that history of this megalist

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watchers came down and they taught men all kinds of

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knowledge of things like metalworking, the arts of war, witchcraft,

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you know, even cosmetics and things like that, astrology, And

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I'm like, that really makes a lot of sense, because

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if you've ever looked up in the sky tried to

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look up at the constellations. I was always really curious

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about how did these people, separated by thousands of miles

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and thousands of years, see the same signs in the heavens. Well,

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it makes sense to me that somebody told them what

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they were looking at, and they were told them what

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it meant, and that's why the zodiac, the stars kind

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of that as above, so below is something that you

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kind of research and you see that day's ancient people

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saw that. And I'm not saying that's biblical, but I'm

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saying that in the same way that these Greek mythology

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and Roman mythology.

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Comes from a true place.

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I'm not saying it's true per se, but it does

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come from a different perspective. And it kind of makes

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sense in the story of the Tower of Babble that

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you have all these nations getting separated, different languages and

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then so they all have the same story, but it's

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slightly different, and it makes sense.

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There's a different perspective on these stories.

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Absolutely, I mean Hindu stories or Chinese stories, are you know,

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South American stories, They all kind of rhyme so absolutely absolutely.

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So you're kind of talking about like timeline deception.

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started to research, and I know a lot of people

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probably know me online, I'm talking about the Little Season,

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we have come to the conclusion at least I think

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this is my best this is my best working theory

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that this makes sense on the biblical timeline that we

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could be in the Little Season of Satan, which is

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mentioned in Revelation chapter twenty. Some people try to dismiss

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the whole ideas on biblical but it is a biblical prophecy,

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regardless if you believe we're here or not. It's something

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that either is happening, is going to happen, or already happen.

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So it makes sense to me that that if you

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actually do read the context of the Gospels and the epistles,

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they're all pointing to the return of Christ being imminent

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in the first century. Now, the real question is when

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was the first century. Now people think that's crazy that

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I go, obviously it was two thousand years ago, because

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it's the year twenty twenty five. But the more I've

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read into like alternative like history theorists or timeline theorists.

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There's a a with a Russian mathematician named Famenco, and

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he believed that a thousand years was added to our timeline.

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quite fond of is the German researcher named Gunner Heinsen,

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and his hypothesis was that in the first money ad

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basically from zero to one thousand, there was seven hundred

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years added to it, junk years. And I think that

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makes sense when you do research the Dark Ages, because

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what people don't know, Like I said, I don't think

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that people knew because I didn't know this.

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That why they call it the.

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Dark Ages is because architecture, language, and culture did not

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advance for a thousand years. Really think about that. That

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is absolutely insane. It makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah, because

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if you think about how many things have advanced or

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or changed or maybe even devaulved in the past or

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just our own lifetimes.

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Like what, yeah, right exactly, so from.

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From flying to allegedly going to the moon, I'm right saying, well,

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yologically speak.

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from horses and buggies to landing on the Moon in

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one hundred years. So then you're telling me in a

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thousand years they did nothing, if anything, they just went

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backwards for a thousand years. Now that is highly suspect,

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and of course, if that's true, there's got to be

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a lot of receipts for that, but there's not. And

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so what was interesting in Gunnerheinstein's theory he examined like

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the stratigraphy. So if you guys are not familiar with that,

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that's basically the study of the strata. So the strata

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would be obviously the earth and then the layers below

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it that would show older civilizations and the newer civilizations

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built on top of it. And so in the first

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thousand years there is you know, there's the Roman Empire

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and obviously then it becomes the Byzantine Empire, and you

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have this certain architectural style. Well, again, this architectural style

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does not change for a thousand years, and what you

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find is based on the strata data that these buildings,

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this architectures that is the same is built at the

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exact same strata level. Well, that doesn't make any sense historically,

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So it's kind of like that what people have done.

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I believe, you know, I believe sometimes there's some bad actors,

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but I also believe that there's a lot of probably

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genuine people, probably in academia, who have tried their best

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to kind of piece together our history and they've put

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it in a thousand year time period because they know

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the chronology is right, but Gunners saying the chronology cannot

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be right because the historical archaeological evidence indicates the opposite that.

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And so that's when you get into kind of the

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idea that that the Roman Empire fell at some point,

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but historians debate that when it within that within hundreds

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of years, And that was a really uncomfortable idea for me.

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I was like, how could they not know this is

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like the most influential empire in the whole world, Yeah, historically,

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and they don't even really know within hundreds of years

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when it fell. And then you find out like Romans

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had all kinds of technology that was lost, and that

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is again it's a problem because I would say that

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it's one thing to say we've lost the technology with

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the Egyptians had because we don't speak their language and

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they didn't write everything down, or they did and it

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was destroyed. But the Romans were told that they wrote

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everything down, they had historians, So why is there a

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giant blank spot in their history? If you look into

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a very curious year, it's called five thirty six, and

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historians say this is the worst year on record it had.

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There was eighteen months of darkness. There was a many

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ice ages that follow that. There was the Justinian plague,

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which is basically the bubonic plague. There's wars and famines

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at this time, and during this time there's collapses all

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around the world. And I think that that is probably

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the kind of the key moment right there where this

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is where our timeline is broken. This is actually where

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we get the ad chronology, where basically the idea comes

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up in the sixth century during this time. But what

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I find really fascinating about that is that we're told

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that this was an idea in the sixth century, but

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it wasn't widely adapted around the world until one thousand eighty.

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So basically we started our AD chronology in one thousand eight.

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And so Gunnar Heinssen's conclusion was, and he was not

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a Christian, that the reason they dated it to one

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thousand eighty because they believe they lived on thousand years

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after Christ. And I thought that was that was a

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pretty wild idea. Yes, right, I mean, if you really

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think about it, it's it's hard for us to wrap

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00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.000
our minds around. One day they say, hey, we want

464
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.359
to change the whole calendar, and everybody accepts it. And

465
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.160
not only that, you go from a pagan world where

466
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.559
everybody worships worships a pantheon of gods to this new

467
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:16.279
chronology that's called ad chronology Anno Domini, which is the

468
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.039
year of our Lord. And I don't think that can

469
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.599
be overstated that the world accepted that Christ was king

470
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.839
when they declared the date. And I think that Christians,

471
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:29.000
you know, we grow up in this world and we

472
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:29.920
don't really think about it.

473
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:31.680
But I mean, how big a deal is that?

474
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.920
So yeah, I think that there's a lot of there's

475
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.759
a lot of mystery of the first thousand years, but

476
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.440
there's also a lot of mysteries after that too, where

477
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.240
like you said, what we're told is from the eighteen

478
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.960
hundreds to the mid nineteen Yeah, mid nineteen hundreds, we

479
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.680
went from horses and buggies to the moon. Well, if

480
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:56.000
you research the eighteen hundreds, the nineteenth century is the

481
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.720
craziest century you've ever heard of, all the things, all

482
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.480
the way wars, all the great fires, and you start

483
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.480
to wonder, is this is any of this true?

484
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.240
Like how could we know if it was true or not?

485
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.240
But I think under a closer examination of maybe the

486
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:19.519
constructions of certain buildings, some certain architecture, and certain inventions

487
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.640
that became brand new and became obsolete almost immediately, it

488
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.720
starts you to delete the conclusion like this doesn't make

489
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.759
any sense. I think I think that there could be

490
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:31.279
you should you should be suspicious of it. That's all

491
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:31.880
I'm gonna say.

492
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:38.079
Yeah, no, agreed, I Yeah, there's definitely it's one of

493
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:41.319
those things like you you try to follow history and

494
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:46.279
there's just this, Yeah, I love history, but it's one

495
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.279
of those things like it's never sat. The Dark Age

496
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:55.640
is never sat easy with me. I mean I understand

497
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.000
there and what they say reasoning why is why history

498
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:05.759
orians will say what the Dark Ages were? But I

499
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.519
think it's a lazy answer. You know, Oh, the Roman

500
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:14.480
Empire that we don't know when it actually fell, or

501
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.759
the we should say like the Western Roman Empire, right right, right.

502
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:25.119
You know, basically everyone just stopped doing anything like working

503
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.480
or writing anything down. All the monks and all the

504
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.519
you know people that wrote all the crap before, just

505
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.799
we don't have anything for seven hundred to one thousand years.

506
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:42.119
It's just bizarre. So I I see it. I see

507
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.680
you know what I mean, Like, I see what is

508
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.839
going on there. I see that there's the giant question

509
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:50.160
what is the truth? Right?

510
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:50.400
Right?

511
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:51.000
Absolutely?

512
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.519
Well, I mean just think about it, like in a

513
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.079
way that the Roman Empire was very vast, and even

514
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.079
if the Western Roman Empire felt oh, you still have

515
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:05.480
the from an empire and constant noples, so it's not

516
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.400
like there wouldn't be people chronicling what happened with lots

517
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.200
of detail and that makes no sense.

518
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.799
And plenty of kings and kingdoms after. Right, Well, just

519
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.519
think about it, educated folk.

520
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.279
Yeah, I just think about it like this too, is

521
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.839
that when you learn historically that cities like Paris and

522
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.519
London or was once called Londinium, there were Roman cities.

523
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.960
So if the barbarians sacked Rome, the city of Rome

524
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.960
in Italy, well there would still have been prefects and

525
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.920
governors and kings that ruled over different kingdoms. They would

526
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:43.279
have had all kinds of you know, chronicling of their

527
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.839
ore own architecture. There was Roman So how do you

528
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.880
forget the recipe for Roman concrete? How do you forget anything?

529
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.200
Because again, the Roman Empire was a worldwide empire. So

530
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.119
that's what I'm saying. It's like it's not isolated, and

531
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.559
I think that's maybe just maybe it's a more modern

532
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.240
view of just thinking like Romans were Italians, but they

533
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:07.440
weren't just Italians.

534
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:09.400
They were all over the place.

535
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:13.480
Even our Apostle Paul was a Roman citizen, so it

536
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.079
didn't really matter if you were just from Rome. There

537
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.400
was all people given Roman citizenship. And yeah, they would

538
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.440
have set governors and prefects over these regions in order

539
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.039
to control them. Because we're not talking about in twenty

540
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.119
twenty five where you could have like a jet base

541
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.240
and put it somewhere. You'd actually have to have people

542
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.599
on the ground being the hands and feet of the emperor.

543
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:44.920
Right, yeah, exactly, exactly right, man, So what do you think, like,

544
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.200
what is your blueprint? Like, what do you think is

545
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.599
going on there? Maybe not the blueprint, it's not the

546
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.720
right words, but what is like, where does your besides scripture,

547
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.799
where is this rooted? Like where do you think we start?

548
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.000
And then where do you think we're at now? Like

549
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.720
what happened? I mean? And you can go as deep

550
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.079
as you want or as surface as you want.

551
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.880
Yeah, I mean, I would say just a brief overview

552
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.319
would be Yeah that if if Christ is indicating these

553
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.480
returning in the first century, which I get biblically, I

554
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.279
could lay out a case. And it takes a long

555
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.440
time because there's so many scriptures that can point to this.

556
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.880
But just if you guys don't believe me, just humor

557
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.200
me for a second. You know, the all of the discourse,

558
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.759
Jesus tells the apostles that before this generation passes away,

559
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.640
all these things will take place. That's the that's the

560
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.519
most detailed account of the events of the end times. Well,

561
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:42.519
he leaves them with that, and then the epistles are

562
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:46.440
all indicating he's returning, so they're saying that. Peter says

563
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.119
the end of all things is at hand. John says

564
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.119
the last hour. Paul tells people it'd be better if

565
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.039
they stayed unmarried because the world as they know it's

566
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.000
about to end. The Book of Hebrews starts off by

567
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.920
saying it's the last days. It says that that Christ

568
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.000
came to be sacrificed at the end of the world

569
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.519
or at the end of the age, so like they

570
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.880
believe it's the end. So the Book of Revelation is

571
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:14.519
written to seven churches historically that no longer exists. You know,

572
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.359
I know people would say, oh, well, church is a

573
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.599
church body, and I agree, church is not a building.

574
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.519
But the cities where these letters were written in modern

575
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.559
day Turkey all had to be excavated. So one of

576
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.880
those cities had to be excavated. Those places where the

577
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.200
letters were written to were buried up to forty five

578
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.440
feet under the ground, and you can look up historical

579
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.400
pictures of that and it's absolutely mind blowing. Also in

580
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.359
Matthew eleven, Jesus gives a message to the unrepented cities.

581
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.839
He's like saying, woe to Corazigon, woe to best side

582
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.599
of woe to Capernaum. That he did his first miracles

583
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.880
in those towns and they did not repent. He told

584
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.079
him it'd be worse for them on Judgment Day than

585
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:58.400
it was for Sodomcghmora, and those places also buried under

586
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.039
the ground, had to be excavated, and when they dug

587
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.720
things up, it was like melted and destroyed Roman cities

588
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.880
under this places. Right, So I think that that that

589
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.000
from me is it's kind of like what I can

590
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.960
see with my own eyes, And I would say that

591
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.279
why did they believe these things were going to be imminent?

592
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.200
And why are they gone? You know, like like what

593
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.799
happened to them? And I think that that's the thing,

594
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.200
like I was never told about that, you know, like

595
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.359
I said, you said history is interesting, and I agree,

596
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.920
history is interesting. History class was not interesting, right, History

597
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.039
class was about dates.

598
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:37.880
And names and memories. Yeah, it was just regurgitating information.

599
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.119
But like the why is really important, like why people

600
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:43.720
did what they did and why would they believe what

601
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.839
they did at the time. So if the Bible is

602
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.119
written for us but not to us, you know, like

603
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.839
literally like you're reading some people's male, it's like you're

604
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.200
looking up at old male and you're reading it and

605
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.680
you have to say, so, what did they believe at

606
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.319
the time and why did they believe it? Again, I

607
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.720
always point back to what Christ said himself. He's saying

608
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.440
that some of you standing here will not taste death

609
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.400
until you see the Sun of Man coming to his kingdom.

610
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:09.319
He told them they wouldn't have gone through all the

611
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:13.359
towns of Israel before the Sun of Man comes, So

612
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.039
that's their context. So I believe it was either true

613
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.119
or it wasn't true. I believe it's true. So I

614
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.079
think this is where you get into like this alternative

615
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.920
history where you're like, okay, so what if they told

616
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:32.039
the truth and the historians, the academics, the theologians, they're

617
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.720
the ones who have told us, well, that doesn't make sense,

618
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.079
so this could not.

619
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:37.440
Have been true.

620
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.319
And I think that's that's where I've really kind of

621
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.480
been resting my kind of identity in Christ is that

622
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.000
I believe what the Bible says. Everything else is left

623
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.240
up to examination based on what the scripture says. And

624
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.480
I think that especially coming into twenty twenty and as

625
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.359
I was saying that I had an end Times eschatology,

626
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.920
like we were really on the precipice of a tribulation.

627
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:00.599
Of people used to.

628
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.359
Point out in my comment section, they said, hey, but

629
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.480
don't they have you know, the quote unquote they don't

630
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.880
they have the Book of Revelation too, So what if

631
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:10.639
they were trying to make it look like some of

632
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.800
these things were happening, and I could never really argue

633
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.199
with them because I was saying, yeah, but I mean,

634
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.559
God says it's going to happen, so regardless if they're

635
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.880
trying to manifest it or not. But if with the

636
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.119
view of like nineteen forty eight Israel and kind of dispensationalism,

637
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.639
that this is what biblical prophecies all about, is about

638
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.039
the return of Israel into the land of Judea, and

639
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.039
they are going to be the last generation that's around

640
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.679
before the end times and the tribulation start.

641
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:40.960
What if that's what they.

642
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.280
Want us to believe, and therefore you make the church

643
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.800
passive because we're waiting on a rapture that may have

644
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.960
already come. And then you accept all kinds of wickedness,

645
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.400
and you accept all things that you probably shouldn't accept

646
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:55.360
if you thought you were on a different part of

647
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.920
the timeline. I mean, I think that's the really interesting

648
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.039
part about the idea of the Little Season. You know,

649
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.280
today people believe there's no way we could be there

650
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.360
because X, Y, and Z have not happened yet, or

651
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.559
at least they don't believe it's happened yet, right, But

652
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.679
that's only because you've been told it hasn't happened yet.

653
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.079
So whether you agree with me or not, you do

654
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.960
have to wrestle with the idea. The Book of Revelation,

655
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.960
chapter twenty tells us of this time where where Jesus

656
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.480
and the Saints reign for a thousand years.

657
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:23.920
The devil's bound, he's putting in a pit.

658
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.639
And then after the thousand years, the devil must be

659
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.000
loose for a little season, and then he goes out

660
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.679
and deceives the nations, goes out to the four corners

661
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.880
of the earth, Gog and Magog, and assembles an army.

662
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:40.239
So if the premillennial view is that this kingdom is

663
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.119
very physical on the earth, is very fleshly kingdom, Christ

664
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.159
himself and the Saints are in glorified bodies and they

665
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.000
are ruling in modern day Jerusalem, well how does the

666
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.400
devil deceive people?

667
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:52.960
After that?

668
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.719
Because if you think, well, we would know, but how

669
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.920
does he do it? Then how does it deceive anybody?

670
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.679
If you can literally go look at the god king,

671
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:04.239
you can go watch him on your TV, you can

672
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.639
watch him on your iPhone, and you could say he's

673
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.599
right there. I'm not going to be tricked because he's

674
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.880
right there, So how does he do it? And I

675
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.760
think that the only way that really makes sense is,

676
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.079
for one, there's a misinterpretation about what the kingdom was

677
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.639
supposed to be. Jesus told the Pharisees the kingdom is

678
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.280
not coming in ways that can be observed. So why

679
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.039
did he say that if it was going to come

680
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.119
in ways that can be observed? He pilot asked me

681
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.239
if he's a king, and he said, my kingdom is

682
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.960
not of this world. So I believe that Jesus and

683
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.880
the saints are ruling from heavenly Jerusalem, and I believe

684
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.559
that the architecture when you get in like Tataria and

685
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.440
all that kind of stuff the old world. I think

686
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.880
that there can be a spiritual, metaphysical kingdom that we're

687
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.559
connected to right now, regardless of where we are on

688
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.159
the timeline, because that's what Jesus is really talking about,

689
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:52.519
the kingdom.

690
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:53.639
He's talking about the Holy Spirit.

691
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.559
So we're connected with the Kingdom of heaven because we

692
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.719
have God's Spirit in us. But I think that if

693
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.079
you think in a way that there's a lot of

694
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.920
spiritual warfare happening today, Oh God so much, right, So

695
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.320
you can you imagine a time where the devil was

696
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.199
not out there pulling the strings of all the world leaders.

697
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.400
What if men were actually worked in the best interests

698
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.159
of other men, what could you what could they have

699
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.199
accomplished then? And I think that maybe that is what

700
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.440
the physical manifestation of the kingdom maybe could be the

701
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.960
grand architecture, the Gothic cathedrals, and the things that really

702
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.119
don't make sense. That if these people were just worried

703
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.960
about just getting enough food to not starve, and worried

704
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.559
about not freezing to death in the wintertime avoiding plague,

705
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.960
how did they create some of the grandest architecture the

706
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:43.880
world's ever seen.

707
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.440
And at time this is called the Dark Ages.

708
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.360
And people will just say, well, because you had ruthless

709
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:55.239
rulers that blah blah blah, right that, and we'd spent

710
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.920
all this money while are people starved?

711
00:37:58.840 --> 00:37:59.320
Right right?

712
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:00.960
Well, you know that's the funny thing about like it

713
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.199
it kind of makes no sense. Well you think historically too,

714
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.719
that that Roman emperors were not it was not common

715
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.079
for them to be assassinated, like kingdoms were overthrown when

716
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.440
they treated the people so badly.

717
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.360
Exactly, So that's what I'm saying, so you.

718
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.039
Can only push the people so hard before they will revolt.

719
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:20.920
So I think that's another class.

720
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:27.039
It's only this big, it's not it. I laugh because

721
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.880
I come from a national security background now, and I'm like,

722
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.159
do you and if you take it, I'm sorry to

723
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:34.679
cut you off and just have to say this, and

724
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.519
I've meant say it on other episodes, But it's kind

725
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:43.840
of like the laws and the and just things in

726
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.840
general are only as good as the people that will

727
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.800
follow up on them, right, So we can make all

728
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.400
these laws that we want where we can do all

729
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.440
these things, but if nobody's there to act upon them

730
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:05.199
or when it comes to laws, to actually uh and

731
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.679
force them, those laws don't mean anything. So in turn,

732
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.840
if you're saying you're gonna starve while I build this

733
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:20.239
cathedral to God or whatever, that's just not going to fly.

734
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:25.880
I'm sorry. And you can show things over and over

735
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.119
and over over again throughout history where it didn't and

736
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:35.079
things changed, rights change, Presume it happens all the time now.

737
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:41.039
So humans are humans if they weren't that different back then.

738
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:42.360
So I'm just no es.

739
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.519
Actually that's a great point, because I think that's one

740
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.679
thing I really noticed when I when I actually did

741
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.320
research history, going all the way back to the ancient megaliths,

742
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.280
is the man was never stupid. And I think it

743
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.360
is fair to say, what is these people's perspective and

744
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.599
what were they thinking? And if it doesn't make sense

745
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.000
to us now in a time that's more advance, we

746
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.639
have more equipment, we have things that make things easier

747
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.039
to build things, Well, why doesn't it make sense now?

748
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.400
And it made sense to them then? Yeah, you know,

749
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.519
it's kind of in the simple way that I had

750
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.519
a construction background. My family owned a commercial drywall, metal

751
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.599
framing plastering company, and you know, you had a lot

752
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.320
of guys who were very handy. These guys were great craftsmen,

753
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.039
and they didn't build things all week and then go

754
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:31.280
home to a shack. You know, these people could build

755
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.119
their own houses nice too. You know, maybe they didn't

756
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.119
have as much money as they were used for the

757
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.559
budget for these buildings, but they had nohow, so they

758
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.000
did build things that.

759
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.480
Were really nice in their own houses.

760
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.599
And so what we're told is these people spent all

761
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.119
their times building these immaculate stone structures and then they

762
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.159
went back and lived in shacks, right, Yeah, they.

763
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.400
Lived in smaller never seen anything, and being in the

764
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.000
military and going from first world to third world country

765
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.599
and seeing the world from a different lens. Right if

766
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:07.599
I've never if I've seen anything, it's that humans are

767
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.519
very very good advocates for themselves right right right, and

768
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.559
for their children and for their you know, and the

769
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.880
difference between right and wrong, and you can only be

770
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.199
so controlled. I'm sorry. So what that it kind of

771
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.440
just goes right along is we're the best advocates for ourselves.

772
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.960
And come on, it just totally puts dots, eyes and crosses.

773
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.119
T's on your point of the shack versus.

774
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.880
Right, Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's like the

775
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.440
story of America. The story of America is that they

776
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:49.920
built things in brand new cities that were Reco Roman temples,

777
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:54.280
and they built basilicas and they built Gothic cathedrals. They

778
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.840
built medieval castles that end up being post offices, orphanage

779
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.639
is insane, asylums and prisons.

780
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.119
Just Greco Roman architecture everywhere.

781
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:06.719
It's everywhere. And I think that's the thing.

782
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.639
I started to wonder that we're told that they built

783
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.719
things kind of in a Renaissance style of ancient Rome.

784
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.440
But what if the Roman Empire was actually more vast

785
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.800
than we're told, And that's why there's Greco Roman architecture

786
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.719
in every continent on the Earth.

787
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:25.400
Maybe not in an Artica, but we don't really know

788
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.119
what's down there.

789
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.519
But everywhere else, like from Australia to Africa, to Canada

790
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.679
to Northern Asia, China, Japan, there's Greco Roman architecture everywhere.

791
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.639
And so why would those people have wanted to emulate

792
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.320
anything Romans did. I think that's really suspect. I think

793
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:46.519
I don't think it makes a lot of sense. So

794
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.480
it seems to me that in the same way that

795
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.800
if you do the kind of the megalith research, a

796
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.800
lot of people made the conclusion that, okay, what if

797
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.960
pyramids are is evidence that there was a connected society,

798
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.840
can't we do the same thing with the Greco Roman

799
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:06.159
architecture because we're told it's not. That's really the only

800
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.480
reason we're told it's not. We're told that those pyramids

801
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:10.639
had these people with the pyramids had no connection to

802
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.480
each other. But it's not just the most obvious design

803
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.559
of something. I mean, it looks like these people all

804
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.639
knew each other. They knew how to build these things,

805
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.320
and they did so in the same way. This architecture

806
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:32.679
seems to resemble Rome. When I don't know that historically,

807
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.079
it makes a lot of sense. We're just told, like

808
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.639
people like Thomas Jefferson just love ancient Roman architecture. So

809
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.960
he just said, you wanted to build Washington, DC like that.

810
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.559
Now when you go to DC, you're really struck by that.

811
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.280
It's like, this does kind of look like what you'd

812
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.800
imagine Rome to be in its heyday. And I think

813
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:51.119
that when you just isolate it to one place, Okay,

814
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.400
all right, fine, okay, it's there, we'll just believe the story.

815
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.280
But then you look at every state capitol building basically

816
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.199
all around the country, and they all resemble the same thing.

817
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.360
They all resemble some kind of shade of you know,

818
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.719
the Capitol Building in DC on Capitol Hill. You know

819
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.920
these massive domes and rotundas and columns and and I.

820
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:18.360
Think they literally that are literally just smaller versions in

821
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.159
the same aspect of the same building.

822
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.039
Yeah, and you actually go look at the Capitol building

823
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.039
in the middle of the prairie. Yeah, you go, well,

824
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.360
I think that's when you really start to get into

825
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.079
like the like the timelines when these buildings are built,

826
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.960
and you see some of the historical pictures, like the

827
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.199
very first pictures we see from some of these cities.

828
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.800
A lot of times you see these massive Greco Roman

829
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.119
buildings and there's nothing around them. It's the most eerie

830
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.760
pictures you've ever seen. There's like typically there's like no

831
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.519
people in this pictures either, and some people I know

832
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.679
are shouting, Oh, it's exposure. They those things took like

833
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.079
fifteen minutes to take a picture. Not in the eighteen fifties.

834
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.039
They didn't, not in the eighteen fifties, because you can

835
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.360
see pictures in London where there's people in them, and

836
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.519
then you can see some of these pictures from like

837
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.320
Saint Petersburg and Russia and some places in Germany and

838
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.760
there is not one soul in the street. There's a

839
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.880
very really interesting picture in San Francisco in the eighteen seventies.

840
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.039
So this would have been like twenty years after San

841
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.599
Francisco was supposedly started to be inhabited, because in eighteen

842
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.199
forty eight, before the forty nine or gold Rush, there

843
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.760
was a thousand people in San Francisco. Now, if you

844
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.239
look at a picture from eighteen seventy there's this massive

845
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.760
panoramic shot of the city and it's one hundred percent

846
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.679
built out. There's not one construction, there's no scaffolding, there's nothing.

847
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.760
The whole city's built out. You can see the harbor

848
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.880
and everything. And not only that, there's not one person

849
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.519
in the picture. There's not one horse, there's not one animal.

850
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.119
There's not one horse and cart.

851
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:46.320
It's bizarre.

852
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.400
It's I mean, it looks like these cities were when

853
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.760
we say they were founded, where they really found where

854
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:53.599
they did.

855
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:54.800
Is this what it's about?

856
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:56.360
And if I don't know, if you ever looked into

857
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.800
like the idea of like the orphan trains and things

858
00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.119
like that.

859
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:03.480
Oh yeah, yeah, I've talked to well Heidi love is

860
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.480
her and I did a whole episode on that and

861
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:07.400
that was crazy.

862
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.519
Yeah, it looks like there was some kind of a

863
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.719
population like a repopulation effort going on, because it really

864
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.440
makes no logistical sense.

865
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.119
Just wild.

866
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.360
Yeah, and it makes no logistical sense. Yeah.

867
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.559
So if you guys are not familiar, it's I want

868
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.599
to say, between eighteen sixty and like nineteen twenty, there

869
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.000
was two hundred and fifty thousand children going on orphan trains.

870
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.679
All across the United States and two hundred three thousands

871
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.960
a lot. It was way more back then because based

872
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.079
on their population, which I want to say it might

873
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.039
have been around eighty million, but a bit in the

874
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.119
eighteen hundreds. So we're talking about two hundred fifty thousand.

875
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:42.000
That's a lot of kids.

876
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:43.519
That's a lot of kids.

877
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:43.880
That's a lot.

878
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.000
That's a lot of that's a lot that would take

879
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.800
a lot of care to ship these kids around, Like,

880
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.840
who's doing that and why? So if there's orphans in

881
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.760
New York, it's absolutely insane to ship them two thousand

882
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.840
miles away to the western part of America to do

883
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.400
what to put them in an orphanage out there, That

884
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.880
makes no sense. So you do kind of wonder if

885
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.800
that was there was a reset somewhere in the eighteen

886
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.800
hundred it's maybe even the late seventeen hundreds, and this

887
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.400
was an effort to get some workers for these cities.

888
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.599
I mean, you see those pictures where you have children

889
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.000
like picking you know, produce and cotton and fields, and

890
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.760
then you see them in these factories where they don't

891
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.039
even look like they're not tall enough to work the

892
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:33.440
levers and the machines. They're standing on boxes, So why

893
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.239
would you do that? And they had the men to

894
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.440
do it, no adults in the pictures. Yeah, yeah, that's strange.

895
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.719
I mean, so this is strange. Yeah, you get to that,

896
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:44.119
and you can like the Cabbage Patch kids that kind

897
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:47.639
of weird, those postcards and just this kind of weird

898
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.880
methos of like children being dropped off by storks being

899
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.840
plucked out of lakes and wells, and yeah, then you

900
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.239
get into like the incubator babies.

901
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.559
Yeah, the incubator babies, like all over the United States.

902
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:03.079
It's like side show, Like, what what is this? It's

903
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:03.880
so bizarre.

904
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.360
No, it's like I said, I think it's important to

905
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.079
maybe just try to put your mind in the person

906
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.119
in the eighteen hundreds or the late early nineteen hundreds,

907
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.119
Like why would I think it's a little bit macabre

908
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.320
to go to an exhibit with a bunch of premies

909
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:20.960
and incubators.

910
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.159
I think that's strange.

911
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.440
And of course that's what's interesting is it ties into

912
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.360
the World Fairs from the late eighteen hundreds to the

913
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:33.559
early nineteen hundreds, where you have these cities in America,

914
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.440
well not just America, but specifically in America. These cities

915
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.800
look like Rome and its heyday, like the eighteen ninety

916
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:48.480
three Columbia Exhibition. I want to say, it's the is

917
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.679
it eighteen ninety four? Is eight maybe it's nineteen oh

918
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:55.800
four the Saint Louis, Louisiana Purchase Exhibition. And these cities

919
00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:01.519
look incredible, absolutely incredible. We're told is these things were

920
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.159
temporary buildings. They were only built for like within a

921
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.239
couple of years for these fairs. But they built hundreds

922
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.280
of buildings and they're all absolutely massive. I'm going to

923
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:15.239
say in Philadelphia they had a centennial celebration in eighteen

924
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.920
seventy six, and they built the biggest building in the

925
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.920
whole world then and then later i want to say,

926
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.599
it was twenty acres the interior of it twenty acres

927
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.920
that big. And then eighteen ninety three they built one

928
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.000
for the Chicago World Fair and it was forty four

929
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.760
acres in the inside of it, also the biggest building

930
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:35.320
in the whole world.

931
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.400
And we're told these are temporary structures.

932
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:41.159
And in these places they have all kinds of exhibitions

933
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:45.360
of technology. They have displays of like Native American people

934
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:50.320
and like Asian people and things like primitive people and premies.

935
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.079
It's the weirdest thing you've ever heard of.

936
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:54.400
Weird it is.

937
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.280
I mean, again, it doesn't make any sense to me.

938
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.159
So I start to wonder if that's a cover story,

939
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.519
What if those cities actually look like that back then

940
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:06.519
and they're only temporary because eventually they destroyed all that stuff.

941
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:11.039
And because I don't think that if if Chicago and

942
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.679
Saint Louis looked like they did in those pictures, I

943
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.400
think there'd be more people like us questioning if this,

944
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:17.719
if the history makes sense.

945
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.800
Yeah, and now in place of them are like giant parks.

946
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.559
Yeah, a lot of times they're just like swamps or

947
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:26.800
something like. They don't even have anything there. It's kind

948
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.039
of crazy to think you take up all that really

949
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.840
valuable real estate in a place like Chicago and not

950
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:32.760
do anything there.

951
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:37.719
Yeah. I'm the other thing that I'll just bring up

952
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:41.559
that you haven't even touched on those is a lot

953
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.039
of these buildings, what's going on underground?

954
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.440
Oh? Absolutely? Yeah.

955
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.039
And that's that's one of the topics that really has

956
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:53.559
me fascinated, because if you looked into Tartaria, or you

957
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.280
looked into Old World, you would notice something called the

958
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.320
mud flood and that's where you have this layer of

959
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:00.960
sediment that rests over all.

960
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.679
The most impressive buildings in every.

961
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.599
City they either have basements or like quasi basements. Sometimes

962
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.480
it's like the windows go partially under the ground. There's

963
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.519
always stairs up to the first floor, but it looks

964
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.559
like that the first floor a lot of times is

965
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.480
either second or the third floor, because there's multiple floors

966
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.039
under the ground. And then you have connected tunnels from

967
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.559
the oldest buildings they all go from. They're all connected

968
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.400
in some kind of way. All the old American cities

969
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.840
have an underground section of them where there's literally like

970
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:35.199
just an underground city under the city. And I think

971
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.559
that to me has really always struck stuck out to

972
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.599
me is that not only are the timelines of these

973
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:46.239
cities really not credible in my eyes, but knowing that

974
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.119
they built a whole underground infrastructure at the same time,

975
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.119
when did they do that and how and why? Because

976
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.880
if you go see a modern building being built, I

977
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:59.000
would say ninety nine percent of the time, maybe even

978
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.800
higher than that, are just built right at the strata level.

979
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.880
They'll built the you know, the front door is right

980
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:05.519
at the ground.

981
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.239
Yeah, I mean, you've got foundation stuff and stuff that's

982
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:13.280
driven in. But these buildings, some of them, when they

983
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:18.239
when they do excavation of things to either redoce stuff

984
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:23.960
or whatever, they're literally the facade on that's shown under

985
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.239
like thirty five feet of dirt is the exact same

986
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.719
facade that's above the street level right now, which wouldn't

987
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.079
make any sense. Why would you do that? Like it

988
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.280
we don't do that now, I mean, that's you know, yeah,

989
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:42.280
it's just wild.

990
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:42.960
Right.

991
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.199
So that's the question is like, so why would they

992
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.760
have done that then when they wouldn't have had advanced

993
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:48.800
excavation equipment.

994
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.280
There's never a real good excuse for that either or

995
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:56.119
explanation that I that I've.

996
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.079
Heard, no, And I think that's why, like I'm here

997
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.159
talking about this is because I, despite some of my

998
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.719
crazy beliefs, at this point, I can show you how

999
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.599
I got here. And it's like a lot of conspiracies

1000
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.559
where it's not necessarily something I wanted to believe. But

1001
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:13.719
when you do start to ask the questions like so

1002
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.280
what is the explanation for the mud flood? Well there's

1003
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.400
not one. They don't even acknowledge it. But all around

1004
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.119
the whole earth, the whole realm, we live in there's

1005
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.800
buried things under the ground, and it's like you do

1006
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.280
kind of wonder, like how did any of this stuff

1007
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.119
ever get lost? It's like, you know, you can go

1008
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.079
to the forest, remote places in the whole earth, like

1009
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.880
Easter Island and they have those MOI statues. Well I

1010
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.599
don't even know exactly when they said it, but it

1011
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.800
was like it wasn't like a reason discovery. They said,

1012
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.719
guess what, these things actually have bodies that are under Yeah,

1013
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.800
and they're like they're fifteen to twenty feet under the ground.

1014
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.079
So you're like, well, how did they not know that

1015
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.960
there was bodies before? And how did those things get buried?

1016
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.239
So that's the thing, like I said, in Ancient Rome,

1017
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.719
they accidentally find things all around Europe where they accidentally

1018
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:02.519
discover a Roman mosaic.

1019
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:10.239
Or wire places like go Beckley Tepeely either either it

1020
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:15.719
happened right or it's been purposely done, purposely buried, like

1021
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.320
why are we burying things? If you know, I'm just

1022
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:20.639
saying it.

1023
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.480
No, Actually, go Beckley Teppe. I think is very suspicious.

1024
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.320
I think that what we're told is is these people

1025
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.559
buried their own temple complex, which which I want to

1026
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.159
say they only have excavated up to like maybe.

1027
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:33.760
Ten percent of it.

1028
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.079
Yeah, it's not very much.

1029
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:39.159
And just the idea of burying something on purpose is

1030
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:40.320
kind of a crazy thought.

1031
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:42.679
And it's not like it's the only place either.

1032
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.280
No, it's not the only place. But I think, what's

1033
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.679
really suspicious about it? Well, you know, I want to say,

1034
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:52.719
like in the Missouri Valley, there's all kinds of these mounds. Now,

1035
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.559
if you look at old pictures of the pyramids in Mexico,

1036
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:58.679
I want to say it's the Temple to the Sun,

1037
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:01.960
and I want to say it's chichen Itza. When you

1038
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.559
actually look at the old pictures of them, like from

1039
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.400
the eighteen hundreds, these things were completely they look like

1040
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.039
a hill. Yeah, you know Chiesa. I think, is that

1041
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.519
step pyramid? It has like a you could kind of

1042
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.280
see the top of it. But the pyramid of the

1043
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.400
Sun is kind of a it's not like the uh,

1044
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.519
the the ones on the Giza plateau.

1045
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:19.280
So it literally just looks like a hill.

1046
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.360
So when they say that go Beckley Teppe was buried

1047
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.639
on purpose, well, wouldn't you see something that resembled more

1048
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.199
like a mound than you would see flat ground? You know?

1049
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.840
What I'm saying like, that's I mean, I think that's suspicious.

1050
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.440
It's like it's imagined. If somebody told you, Okay, some

1051
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.480
people are going to try to steal your house or something,

1052
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.400
so you're gonna have to bury it, Well, that sounds

1053
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.119
like quite an undertaking in itself.

1054
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.719
But what you'd have is a mound.

1055
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:47.559
And then somebody said, now you got to bury the

1056
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.000
rest of the neighborhood, you would still find a mound somewhere,

1057
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.920
because it's like where do you where does that stop?

1058
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.039
Like you could level that out completely. I think that

1059
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.480
I think that was an act of God, whatever that was.

1060
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.599
And I know a lot of people probably saying who

1061
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.440
have a Christian worldview, they would say, oh, that was

1062
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.519
Noah's flood. But it doesn't make sense when it's modern

1063
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:09.320
buildings that because I don't think that Greco Roman architecture

1064
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:11.519
was in the days of Noah. I mean, I don't

1065
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.679
think so anyways, But because now now I think you're

1066
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.119
getting really conspiratorial if you believe that stuff in you know, whatever,

1067
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.719
Pick a town and that's close to you, that's got

1068
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:22.960
any age.

1069
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.639
Yeah, to think those Inbraska? Right in Nebraska.

1070
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.800
I'm on Nebraska They also had a Worldfair that looked

1071
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:28.679
like ans Rome too.

1072
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:34.599
Yeah, there's some wild stuff with the especially with the

1073
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:39.039
Mississippian culture, the Kahokia and some of the I mean

1074
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.400
some of the pyramids that we know were built here. Uh,

1075
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.639
And I say that, you know, they're not Geza pyramids.

1076
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:52.000
They're not even Mexican pyramids, not or South American pyramids.

1077
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:57.920
They're you know, earth and usually. But uh, the other

1078
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.000
thing is too, is like all the different rumors throughout

1079
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.199
history of the US of why do we have so

1080
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.079
many reservoirs that happened to flood towns and oh yeah, yeah,

1081
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.199
things along those lines like like this, once you scratch

1082
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.599
the surface and start digging, I feel like ground just

1083
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.480
gives from underneath a lot of this stuff. So I've

1084
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:20.159
told you at the beginning of this that I kind

1085
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.079
of stayed away from it because it's a it's a

1086
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.119
huge undertaking to go down this rep Yeah.

1087
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:28.239
Absolutely, well, I think that.

1088
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:34.039
I was aware of Tartaria and the mud flood before

1089
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.599
I really started talking about it. I was fascinated by it,

1090
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.440
but I really didn't know where to place that because yeah,

1091
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.840
you're right, it's like, like, what am I supposed to

1092
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.559
do with this. So in the view of the Little Season,

1093
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.840
it actually does make sense. So that's why I kind

1094
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.880
of researched it more because this is evidence of a

1095
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.320
lie at least or a cover up. So we so,

1096
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.000
but why so the Little Season kind of gives you

1097
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.960
the answer to why is because there was a better time.

1098
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.639
I'm in this in our past, Like how far back

1099
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:04.719
in our past? I mean, that's kind of anybody's best guess,

1100
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.840
but to me, it's after the times of Jesus. So

1101
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.199
if Jesus kept his word and said that he was

1102
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.000
coming back in their generation, well this could be maybe

1103
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.719
evidence of this millennial reign. This could be evidence of

1104
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.239
this thousand years there was better than the time we're

1105
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.400
living in today and today.

1106
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:27.119
And obviously times of plenty at least from a what

1107
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:33.719
you could look at that existed, yes, right, and that conveniently,

1108
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:38.119
so much of the history is just gone and who

1109
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.000
does that? It's I mean, what is the saying the

1110
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:45.320
Devil's greatest trick was to show but.

1111
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:46.760
It convinced the world he did not exist.

1112
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.840
See, he didn't exist, and that just kind of goes

1113
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:52.599
I mean at least makes you.

1114
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.559
Think, yeah, absolutely, well that's what I was saying. I

1115
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:58.360
brought that point up before. He has a famous quote

1116
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:00.480
from the Usual Suspects. I'm not exactly sure that's from

1117
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.679
where they got the quote from, but I'm sure it's

1118
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.960
a older quote than that. But I just thought about

1119
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.239
that that in the times of the Romans in the

1120
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.360
first century Church, they were worshiping Zeus, they're worshiping Apollo,

1121
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:16.880
They're worshiping all these false gods. So to me, like

1122
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.039
Zeus is an avatar for Satan, so he's Jupiter to

1123
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:23.039
the Romans, and he would have been the God of gods,

1124
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:24.719
but we know that he's a false god. He's not

1125
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:27.679
the God of gods. The Creator is the most sigh

1126
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.760
God is the God of gods. Right, So I just

1127
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.800
thought about, like, if in the times of the Apostles,

1128
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.400
they're talking about the God of this world, well, the

1129
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.039
God of his world would have been worshiped openly, it

1130
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:42.320
wouldn't have had it been secret. But now the elites

1131
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.840
do seem like they worship the God of this world,

1132
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.519
but they do it through signs and symbols, and they

1133
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:50.719
do it with they wink and a nod, and they

1134
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.119
don't do it openly. So to me, it kind of

1135
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.800
makes sense that in the little season, the only way

1136
00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:00.360
the devil can really do anything is through deception, So

1137
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.880
he can't really announce himself openly because if he does,

1138
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.280
then he's kind of like it's validating the Bible. It's

1139
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.199
validating the scriptures are correct, because if you saw an

1140
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:11.559
angel show up, who's a bad angel, You're like, Okay,

1141
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.360
that's the devil. Okay, Christ is real. All the story

1142
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:16.559
of the Bible is real. But now it's like it's

1143
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:20.239
all through you know, just a sleight of hand, and

1144
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.519
they can say it, but they really don't. We all

1145
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:25.800
kind of like once you're the veil's kind of been

1146
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.360
lifted from your eyes. You can see it. You can

1147
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.440
see it in like the concerts, you can see it

1148
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.679
in like the the ceremonies to the Olympics. You can

1149
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.519
see it through all kinds of culture. But they really

1150
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.119
don't openly admit it. They do, but they don't, Right,

1151
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.679
So I was saying like that, that to me is

1152
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.480
just a sign of like the devil has been working

1153
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:51.519
through the sons of iniquity and he's back. And it's

1154
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.159
kind of like that idea of almost like you know,

1155
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.440
in the Lord of the rings where there's this shadow,

1156
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.960
there's this threat from the west, there's all these rumors

1157
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.920
of this evil kind of returning, And I was like,

1158
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.280
that makes sense to me. That makes sense that in

1159
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.440
the way that yeah, he's we kind of know, but

1160
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.440
we kind of don't. It's like Voldemort's back, yeah, you know,

1161
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:12.360
like that's what that.

1162
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.639
Myth is or I can't say that name though.

1163
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.840
Right right exactly where it's like we don't talk about him,

1164
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:18.559
and like certain people say, oh, there's no way, it's

1165
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.239
not possible that he could be back, and you're like,

1166
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:25.039
but I would say, just based on kind of you

1167
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.760
go from a mostly Christianized world and then when you

1168
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.199
get to like periods like what we're told is the Enlightenment,

1169
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.079
there's the erosion of Christian values in the Christian worldview,

1170
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:38.159
where you know, now we're in a place where people

1171
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.159
don't even know what the shape of the earth is

1172
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:44.079
because we don't really trust the science. We we start

1173
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:46.519
to question everything about what we were taught. So like,

1174
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.360
you know, so they try to promote this idea of

1175
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.039
a big bang removes the creator from all the things.

1176
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.400
There's evolution, all these things get introduced at this certain

1177
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.400
time period, and now we're kind of left on this

1178
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.880
this place where there's still lot of Christians, right, but

1179
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:05.079
there's a lot of people that deny God ever existed

1180
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:06.679
at all, and or.

1181
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.679
That God is different than what we believe.

1182
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:11.760
Yeah, or it's awst it's a twist on the truth.

1183
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.719
And I think that's what the devil can do, is

1184
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:18.280
that he can take part of the truth and twist

1185
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:20.800
it in a slight way, and he takes credit for

1186
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:24.639
things that were godly things and that because the devil

1187
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:27.159
really doesn't create anything except for lies and deception.

1188
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:29.639
Yeah. I mean, I've looked into a whole bunch of

1189
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.239
lately and I'm just going to go there. I'm going

1190
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:34.320
to say it. I've looked at a lot of the

1191
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.639
Catholic Church, and we say Rome, you know, that's where

1192
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:41.920
the Catholic Church beginds and so much of the like

1193
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:47.880
that the the iconography things, yeah, the iconography, but also

1194
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.079
their ceremony and things that they do in hand gestures

1195
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:55.199
and things that they carry and things that the pope does. Man,

1196
01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:01.519
some of them look Satanic period. I mean, I'm not

1197
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:05.880
trying to like demonize Catholics or the Catholic Church. I'm

1198
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.519
just saying, damn, explain that to me, then you know

1199
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.159
what I mean, Like, like I there's a couple of

1200
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:14.800
videos that go around and there's certain things and if

1201
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.800
you look at like statues of Bathomet and some other

1202
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:21.800
eating you know, devils from this and that and the

1203
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:25.679
other thing that they're acting out these these almost like

1204
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:33.719
ceremonies that are worshiping false God and or Satan. Even.

1205
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:38.840
Yeah, I mean, the yeah, the imagery at the Vatican

1206
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.280
is is very troubling.

1207
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.840
You're very bizarre. I mean, there's so much stuff there.

1208
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:48.360
If if nothing else, it should at least make you think.

1209
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:50.280
Right well, because I mean I think that a lot

1210
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:51.639
of people who have just kind of just read the

1211
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.320
Bible and you do try to square some of the

1212
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.800
religious traditions they do based on the scriptures, and you're like,

1213
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.000
where are they getting any of this stuff from? It

1214
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.480
doesn't seem like that what Christ is trying to do

1215
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.079
is to knock down one a religious establishment to create

1216
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:07.719
another one.

1217
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:09.159
That is all.

1218
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:10.280
I mean.

1219
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.239
It's definitely that Pharisee spirite where it's like it's like

1220
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:19.519
the it's like the illusion of holiness and righteousness, but

1221
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.719
we know then we have like the undercurrents of like

1222
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:25.000
what the scandals in the church in what they're actually

1223
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.280
doing versus what's being presented.

1224
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:27.440
To the public.

1225
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:30.920
And I think that that disillusions a lot of people.

1226
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:32.559
And of course that does seem like also something the

1227
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.400
devil would do would be he would say, this is

1228
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.559
your face of Christianity right here, the papacy. And then

1229
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.880
so then people say, oh, religion just a control mechanism, Well,

1230
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.119
I would agree. I mean that kind of organized religion

1231
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.280
is a control mechanism. And I think that the Christ

1232
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.400
that you know, wanted to put us under somebody's thumb

1233
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.360
like that. Again, I think he was trying to give

1234
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.280
us freedom and so we can have a direct connection

1235
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.519
to God through through Christ and the Holy Spirit. So

1236
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.079
they're trying to tell me, oh, but I got to

1237
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:05.639
go to this one man to tell them if I've

1238
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:09.199
done anything bad, Like that's the antithesis of like the

1239
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.639
Christ is the mediator. Christ is in the Holy Spirit

1240
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.679
of the mediator between us and God the Father. So

1241
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.159
why do I need to go confess to some man

1242
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.039
who what is he doing? Like what is his you

1243
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.679
know what I mean? Like that's yeah, it's not And.

1244
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.880
There's some serious issues with like authority and salvation and

1245
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:34.480
sacraments and saints in general, you know, and and stuff

1246
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:37.880
like that, that there's some.

1247
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.559
Deep seated issues, right what the saints is interesting, especially

1248
01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:46.159
if you do consider that we could be living past

1249
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.320
the millennial rain all the iconography of the saints and

1250
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.679
the murals they're depicting them with halos and things like that,

1251
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:55.400
like you do kind of wonder like they're very similar

1252
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:58.280
all around the whole world. It's almost like these people

1253
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.400
did have some kind of a access to them at

1254
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.400
some point. I kind of wondered that, and I was

1255
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.440
trying to revisit some of the stuff with kind of

1256
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.000
the historic and the Orthodox Church.

1257
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.159
Is it possible that.

1258
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.440
Some of these things are kind of lost to time

1259
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.559
and then the story is distorted instead of you did

1260
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.519
have saints that could interact with people at times and

1261
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:24.239
do miraculous things, but they were never meant to be

1262
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.840
deified in the way that they are. And so just

1263
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.719
because you have iconograa from it doesn't mean you pray

1264
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:32.440
to them. It doesn't mean you mean, clearly, we're not

1265
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:35.920
supposed to make graven images and idols of these of

1266
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:40.440
people men beasts in the earth, beasts under the earth,

1267
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:42.480
fish of the sea, creeping things. We're not supposed to

1268
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:46.960
do that. So maybe this is something that turned into idolatry,

1269
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:51.199
but once the true account of it was never meant

1270
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.519
to be that way, and that's a way that the

1271
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.440
devil has introduced a golden calf back into the church.

1272
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:09.480
Absolutely, man, I think we've sufficiently peeled them the proverbial

1273
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:11.000
lid off the can.

1274
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:13.599
Right, Yeah, No, absolutely, I mean there's this is a

1275
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:17.960
deep subject and it is depending on like the audience

1276
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.079
and who they how they want to research this. There's

1277
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:24.199
so many facets to the little season and potentially like

1278
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:27.840
where we are in the biblical timeline. It's it's not

1279
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:30.519
something that I have I mean, I feel like I'm

1280
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:32.880
still just scratching the surface of it. You know, we

1281
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.800
have a lot more podcasts about this, but I always

1282
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.880
want to leave people with this is that the more

1283
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:39.840
I've been doing this and the more I've been researching,

1284
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.119
the more I've been talking to other people, I feel

1285
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.159
like God has given me kind of more humility in

1286
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.199
the space to say that we can all learn from

1287
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:48.599
each other.

1288
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:50.239
And some of these things are theories.

1289
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.960
Again, I would say that the being in the Little

1290
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.519
Season as a theory, but it's a biblical prophecy. If

1291
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.840
you're in Christ, I would say that we all validate

1292
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.079
that the scripture is true, you know, so we all

1293
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:04.519
believe it. We believe it, but we're confused about where

1294
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:06.599
we are on the timeline. And I think that you

1295
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.480
should give people grace for that because as we too

1296
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.760
kind of research history. Yeah, when people say that they

1297
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:14.480
would have wrote it all down, like, but they didn't

1298
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.439
write everything down, so we know that there's blank spots

1299
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:19.760
in our history. So if we put our faith in

1300
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:23.880
Christ in then we are brothers and sisters in the

1301
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:26.359
church and we don't need to be these are like

1302
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:29.479
these these shouldn't be such contentious issues because regardless if

1303
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.399
we are in the Little Season, it is going to

1304
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:32.119
happen one day.

1305
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.680
Yeah, and it all ends in the same spot, right.

1306
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:37.720
We all believe that the victory in Christ is guaranteed

1307
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.159
and that's what gives us hope and solace.

1308
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:41.279
So it's not a black pill.

1309
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:43.199
And I'm not one of these people think that if

1310
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:46.399
we're in Little Season the gospel changes at all, that

1311
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.600
our mission here changes at all. I still feel like that,

1312
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.560
you know, whether the two main commandments in the New

1313
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.279
Covenant is to love God with all your heart and

1314
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:57.319
love your neighbor as yourself. So we should be serving others,

1315
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.840
putting others before ourselves, and just being able to give

1316
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:02.840
grace to people who are kind of trying to figure

1317
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.560
these things out. My favorite part about talking about this

1318
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:07.960
is though, that I would say that it has bore

1319
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.279
a lot of good fruit because a lot of people

1320
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.159
who have never been to a church are looking into

1321
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:19.199
like lost history in Tartaria and the mud flood and

1322
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:21.039
even another topic we didn't even hit on today. It

1323
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:24.720
was like meltology, like melted things all around the world

1324
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:29.640
that they say, this makes sense because it's one thing.

1325
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:29.840
I know.

1326
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.800
You mentioned that you started like to want to talk

1327
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.720
about Bigfoot, and a lot of people who look into Bigfoot,

1328
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:39.359
they start to research about giants and the nephelum and

1329
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.760
they're like, I like this because this gives me an answer,

1330
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:44.880
because it's not just like some kind of spooky Bigfoot

1331
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.640
show where it's just paranormal and it ends with well,

1332
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.199
we'll never really know, We'll just have to keep researching.

1333
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.119
I mean, this gives us an answer to why, and

1334
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:54.439
it might not be the correct answer.

1335
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:55.760
Of why.

1336
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:58.239
It's the it's the answer that I think does lead

1337
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:01.000
people to Christ at the end of the day. And

1338
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:04.159
so sometimes I believe that that I could be wrong

1339
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.800
about some of these things, but I would say that

1340
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:10.199
the reason I believe it is because I believe Jesus

1341
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:10.760
told the truth.

1342
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:12.319
I believe the apostles told the truth.

1343
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.199
I don't believe they are false prophets when they were

1344
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:18.800
predicting the imminency of his return. So I could be wrong,

1345
01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:23.760
but I'm comfortable saying these things in public because i

1346
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.159
believe my why is correct because I'm still trying to

1347
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:28.800
point it back to Jesus. And if I'm wrong, I

1348
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:30.600
would have to be I would be happy to be wrong,

1349
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:32.840
and we'd get raptured before the end of this podcast,

1350
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.359
but I don't think that's going to happen. So until then,

1351
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:38.960
I think that we need to just be as wise

1352
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:41.880
as serpents and innocent as doves, because we are definitely

1353
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:43.239
out amongst the wolves.

1354
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.239
Yeah, for sure. I mean I saw I've been doing

1355
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:54.359
this Sunday Supernatural Bible series for a bunch of months

1356
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.039
at this point, or a few weeks, and I'm like,

1357
01:10:57.760 --> 01:10:59.840
I just got to the Book of job, right. So

1358
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:05.199
I'm basically telling the books from a supernatural lens, right,

1359
01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.119
very much like like Ed Mabry or somebody like that

1360
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.640
has done. But I'm doing it so I can understand

1361
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:17.920
these things better because some of the scripture is very confusing.

1362
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:19.039
Right, is very deep.

1363
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.840
It's a lot very deep, and most people get lost,

1364
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:27.119
like they're like, I can't do this right. So the

1365
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:35.600
way that I look at it as is literally that

1366
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:40.680
it's not about like the end of this book is

1367
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:46.520
really about Job just remaining faithful to God after all

1368
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.199
of a sudden done and everything that's thrown at him.

1369
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:54.239
It's not about the things that that are lost, or

1370
01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:56.479
about the things that or whatever. It's just the matter

1371
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:04.960
of Job saying fail to God overall that the rest

1372
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.159
of this is all just stuff going on around us,

1373
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.680
right right, and that in the end, if we believe

1374
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:16.279
that Jesus, that all this is happening for something else,

1375
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:18.279
the glory, and that we believe in God, and we

1376
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:22.239
believe in Jesus as our Lord and Savior, that that's

1377
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:25.600
that's all that matters. The rest of it is just.

1378
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.680
You know, yeah, I mean they could be distractions, but

1379
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:31.560
I actually think that's good. You brought up the Book

1380
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:33.720
of Job because some people do kind of wonder, like

1381
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:35.279
what is the point of the little Season? And I

1382
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:38.079
do kind of wonder if the Book of Job it

1383
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:40.199
could be a good example of like what we're dealing with.

1384
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:42.680
It's like the little Seasons, like the Book of Job

1385
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:47.199
on steroids, where the devil went to God and says,

1386
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.079
I can make these people forget any of this stuff

1387
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:54.000
ever happened. They're gonna deny it everigs you ever came back,

1388
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:58.520
your kingdom was ever established. And God says, okay, go

1389
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.359
try have fun, yeah, to see what you can do.

1390
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.079
And you know, so like that, the devil cannot do

1391
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:05.600
anything that God does not allow him to do.

1392
01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:11.600
And that's what the talk about a courtroom in heaven.

1393
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:14.560
Yeah, it's like he has to ask for permission to

1394
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:17.920
do the things he's doing. So that only makes our

1395
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.159
God greater and gives him more glory. Is that he

1396
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:24.920
is sovereign. So like, if God had to limit the

1397
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:28.640
devil more, that would actually take away from who he is.

1398
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.760
But if he lets him do more, it's because he

1399
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.560
is in control that he can let this wily serpent

1400
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:40.960
out go do just wreak chaos, but Ultimately, he's like,

1401
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:46.000
my faithful people will see through it. And regardless if

1402
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.640
we are right or wrong about the timeline, if again

1403
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:50.399
you put your faith in Christ, it's like, it doesn't

1404
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:53.479
really matter if you where you're on the timeline, because ultimately,

1405
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:56.960
we don't know how long we have each person. We

1406
01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.079
don't know how many days we have, and one day

1407
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.119
we're going to stand before the great White Throne, regardless

1408
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:03.439
if we were right or wrong about all these kind

1409
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:08.079
of crazy mysteries and theories, and it'll be about what

1410
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:09.560
did you do for the people around you?

1411
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:11.159
Yeah, did you.

1412
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.520
Take care of the people who were less fortunate? Did

1413
01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.119
you take care of your family? Did you take care

1414
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:19.640
of the the my sheep? And if he did, it

1415
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:21.720
doesn't like it won't matter if you had if you

1416
01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:23.800
knew all the knowledge of all the mysteries and all

1417
01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:24.439
that kind of stuff.

1418
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That's that's that's a secondary issue.

1419
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:28.800
Yeah. Part of the thing I bring up in this

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01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:33.279
in that episode is, you know, Job gets so honin

1421
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:36.159
where he reaches his breaking point and he sits in

1422
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:41.039
the ashes, scraping sores with broken pottery, demanding to hear

1423
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:46.840
a hearing with God. Right and and when God answers. Uh,

1424
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:52.720
you know, Job's demanding answers, explanations and justice. And then

1425
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:56.000
when God finally shows up, he doesn't explain anything.

1426
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:58.560
I couldn't understand it if I did.

1427
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:01.600
Yeah, he just takes Joe on a tour of the

1428
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:05.760
boundaries of creation and the edges where order meets chaos,

1429
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:12.399
and he introduces both Behemoth and Leviathan and names you

1430
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:16.720
know that everyone knows how of myth And at the

1431
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:20.880
end of the day, what that shows is that, oh,

1432
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.960
you know, you guys can think I've got this because

1433
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.960
look at what I control, you know, and that I'm

1434
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:32.520
the only one that can a reminder that no king,

1435
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:38.600
no empire, no human effort can fully conquer nature's most

1436
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.680
ancient forces. Only I can or and.

1437
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:42.880
You can't even comprehend it.

1438
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.319
Yeah, right, It's like, you don't Job, you don't understand,

1439
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:50.399
You couldn't understand God, You're not And I think that

1440
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:53.079
I think that that's really kind of the ultimate message

1441
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.720
I get out of the book is that the God

1442
01:15:55.800 --> 01:16:01.920
is good. You know, Job questions if God's just Job

1443
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:05.600
is learns that he is yea and he needs to

1444
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:07.760
fear the Lord and basically just take care of what's

1445
01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.199
in front of him, and he doesn't need to worry

1446
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:13.039
about what God does. And I think that always remembering

1447
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:16.119
that the Book of Job is pretty dark, but knowing

1448
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.439
that the visible face of the invisible God is Christ,

1449
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:21.439
so you can't question.

1450
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.800
If he's just or not, or he's good because.

1451
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:25.880
If that's that's our real that's our example of like

1452
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:30.680
what love is and righteousness and holiness. So that's that's

1453
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:33.880
God the Father, that's our example for who he actually is.

1454
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.239
So so knowing that, yeah, there's a lot of factors

1455
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:40.079
that we don't put into the equation that the Job

1456
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:41.640
was learned had to learn about.

1457
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:47.079
Yeah, for sure. Man, I think we're sufficiently broadcasted some

1458
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:52.960
seeds today, hope, so hope. So so again, tell everybody

1459
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:54.239
where they can find you.

1460
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.560
Yeah, you can find me on YouTube, just look up

1461
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:02.520
j T follows JC, I'm on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook.

1462
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.039
I'm also on.

1463
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.960
All the audio podcasts if you like, on Spotify, Apple,

1464
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:11.560
anywhere you can listen to podcasts. You can look up

1465
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.920
JT's mixtape. That's one of my podcasts. And yeah, if

1466
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:18.880
you guys enjoyed this conversation, there's many more on my shows.

1467
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:20.119
I'm a YouTube channel.

1468
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:24.359
Yeah, awesome, So I appreciate you coming on.

1469
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.279
Of course, Man, this is great. It was a pleasure.

1470
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:29.479
Absolutely, We'll have to do it again.

1471
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:34.840
Yeah, absolutely, I'm down, all right, take care, okay, God bless.

1472
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.960
Song cracked in twenty twenty, like the.

1473
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.319
Video got torn into.

1474
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:48.039
Same street, same faces, but the world.

1475
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:49.800
Don't feel the same as he used to.

1476
01:17:54.079 --> 01:18:00.640
Sid. Don't ask questions, Sid, just all in line.

1477
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.039
But the more they fed the silence, the more I started.

1478
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:09.640
Reading between the sign.

1479
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.840
It just torn from history, buried under dust and die.

1480
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.600
But truth has a way of breathe even when the

1481
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:22.680
lights go out.

1482
01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:24.760
Are we living in the little.

1483
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:28.319
Season between the fire and the crown where the truth

1484
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:32.640
is barely whispered? But the Lisa shouted loud, and and

1485
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.800
Chaine still pulling on the world that's fast asleep.

1486
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:41.720
If this is just a moment on water, they so scared.

1487
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:53.600
We'll see.

1488
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:59.199
Stone, bust, storm, The ages fell, darkness dressed is time

1489
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:12.079
empires rose on borrowed mints call conquest. The Tudors feed.

1490
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:20.880
Was foolish, set the past was settled along, but the

1491
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:22.439
gospel still simple.

1492
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:31.359
And if don't need their harts, the scool field with

1493
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:32.479
broken wax.

1494
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.079
Story is never told.

1495
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.960
But lie, don't ask for mission and truth, don't rust

1496
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.760
with angel bro Hold are we living.

1497
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:42.760
In the little season where deception?

1498
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:46.439
Where's a crown? All is a sacred turns the spectacle

1499
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:51.119
and mercies, no ebs be found. It s God's in modern.

1500
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:56.199
Clothes, still demanded and belief, but grace comes through the noise.

1501
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.720
I could play the sets us speed.

1502
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:14.479
Not every mystery needs a map, not every war needs

1503
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:15.039
a sword.

1504
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.720
Sometimes the bravest thing you do.

1505
01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:23.640
It's trust the written world.

1506
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:33.279
Community over though, grace, over being riot.

1507
01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:41.159
If love ain't at the center, then.

1508
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.000
You miss the point of life.

1509
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:56.720
Stay awake, stay humble, hold fast. The truth was never hidden,

1510
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:01.479
just ignored her.

1511
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:07.760
Were live in a little sea.

1512
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.119
But the climming is whining down every natural bend.

1513
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:14.720
Eventually every truth will serve.

1514
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:18.119
The south or walk standing through the shadows. Keep the

1515
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:19.600
gospel clean and clear.

1516
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:22.560
The light was never complicated.

1517
01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:24.760
It was always right here.

1518
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:35.239
See see the truth still gross, see vanilla dark