May 27, 2025

The Gold Standard of Truth: A Conversation with Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold & Silver

The Gold Standard of Truth: A Conversation with Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold & Silver
The Gold Standard of Truth: A Conversation with Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold & Silver
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The Gold Standard of Truth: A Conversation with Tony Arterburn of Wise Wolf Gold & Silver
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In this compelling episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Bennett Tanton sits down with Tony Arterburn—veteran, broadcaster, and founder of Wise Wolf Gold & Silver Exchange—for a wide-ranging conversation that cuts through the noise of today’s financial chaos. From inflation and central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) to prepping with precious metals and reclaiming economic sovereignty, Tony brings clarity and conviction to a topic too often clouded by propaganda and fear. They discuss why gold and silver have stood the test of time, how fiat currency is the greatest Ponzi scheme never called out, and what you need to know to protect your assets in a world increasingly built on digital illusions. Whether you're new to the idea of sound money or you're already stacking coins like a modern-day Paul Revere, this episode plants seeds of knowledge, awareness, and action. Expect some hard truths, a few laughs, and a whole lot of practical wisdom from two liberty-minded veterans who see the writing on the wall—and aren’t afraid to say it out loud.

🔑 Topics include:

  • Why Tony founded Wise Wolf Gold & Silver
  • What the media won’t tell you about the U.S. dollar
  • The spiritual war behind economic enslavement
  • How to hedge your future without fear
  • The role of gold in preserving individual freedom
🎙️ Tune in, take notes, and pass it on. Because financial freedom is spiritual warfare.

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Tony Hardburn, Welcome to broadcas testing Seeds. Tell us who

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you are and what you do.

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Well, it's great to be here. It's good to see

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you again as well. Well. I guess a short synopsis

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would be I always start out my broadcast saying I'm

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a veteran of three foreign wars. I was a US

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Army paratrooper, a military policeman back at the turn of

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the century. So I got all the.

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So crazy that we can say that.

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Back when all the good time started, you know, the

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end of the twentieth century in the twenty first, so

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free foreign wars under my belt. Learned a lot about

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history and foreign policy. Self educated in many ways, although

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I did a little bit of university the University of Dallas,

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studied philosophy. But I'm an entrepreneur by trade. That's kind

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of a it's a very blanket statement, but that means

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that you've tried a lot of things and not been

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good at them, or they found something that somebody recognizes

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you are good at. So many businesses later, I find

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myself in precious metals. I'm the founder and CEO of

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wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange, as well as Wolfpack Gold,

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which is a subscription service. I'm a radio host. I'm

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a podcaster. Let's see what else. I'm a dad. I've

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got a twenty year old son. I love my Chihuahua mix.

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Her name is Beans. We travel all over and I

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own a gym. I'm in my gym right now. So okay,

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that kind of sums up what I do and what

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keeps me busy.

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Serial entrepreneurship.

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Yes, I can't quit. I should find.

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Support exactly and nothing but failing forward.

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Right, yes, And you got to be like, oh that

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that was an interesting experience and something my dad told

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me once. He said, sometimes the best deals that are

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the ones you don't do, and I learned that the

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hard way.

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Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah maybe, yes, for sure. It's

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funny that you say that turn of the century thing,

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because I was. I was deployed to Bosnia at the

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turn of the center. Just mad. Yeah, all right, there

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you go, little balk In. Action's good. It's all good.

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Belt's character puts her on the chest, right Oh sure? Yeah? So,

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uh tell us your podcasts, which because you have two.

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Right, Yes, I'm on a show called America on Plugged

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on Saturdays. That's with the historian Don Jefferies, and there's

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another podcaster, Billy Ray Valentine, and we do a panel show.

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It's a different viewpoints. It's kind of a synopsis on

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the news of the week. But I've had a radio

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show for many years called the Artiburn Radio Transmission, and

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I used to be on standard talk, conservative talk radio.

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I've long since crossed the rubicon into the conspiracy theory

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of history where they they allowed me to beyond, but

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the audience wasn't even there. It's like, I don't you don't.

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I don't play team sports with the duopoly, the two parties,

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So I left that a long time ago. I like

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to do macro, big picture, geopolitical analysis, hidden history. So

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I have a that and I have a show called

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Paratruther that I do because I was a paratrooper. I

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had a show called Paratruther that I do with a

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man named mister Anderson. And say, man, he's younger than

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me I grew up, but he was a I've known

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him since he was twelve years old and he's a

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scientist PhD. Really analytical mind and great researcher. I do

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a show with him and so we break down and

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you know, hidden history, biography, unexplained conspiracy, stuff like that.

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But I don't do that stuff for the clickbait effect

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or to do uh, you know, gloom and doom. It's

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mostly to get an accurate picture of where we are

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and where we you know, where we've been, so you

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can better ascertain what's in front of you. That's what

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I try to do as a as an analyst. And

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so yeah, a lot of that gets back into the

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financial system. That's my wheelhouse, the origin of fiat currency

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and what sound money is and why that you know,

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why the fiat currency system drives the deep state or

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the hidden hand, like how you get into the esoteric

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part about how it's economic alchemy and all the rest

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of that. So it's a hodgepot, you know, I've got

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real world stuff versus I mean, it's all real world,

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but it's all you know, we've got mainline stuff that

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we discussed along with along with the hidden the hidden hand,

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and the darker corners of our reality.

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Yes for sure. So like this podcast, we talk about

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all those things and more. And the one question I

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love to ask everybody is kind of what was your

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gateway into this world of strange stuff, hidden history? You know,

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things like that. What was your gateway into that?

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Well, it started out I think in the mid nineties

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actually as a teenager. My father, entrepreneur. You know, the

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hardest working man I've ever met, is started businesses and

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had built a bank by the time he was twenty

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nine and had convenience stores and a fuel business. I

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watched him and I just thought that was normal, Like,

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you have an idea, you go work really hard, you

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build things. I thought, that's just what you do, you know,

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And that just I grew up that way. I was

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driving around, you know, with my grandfather in the nineteen

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eighties in Dallas, you know, building convenience stores, and that's

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what you did. That's what Bob does, you know, But

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that my dad was that way. And anyway, about the

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mid nineties, after Ruby Ridge and after Waco, something really interesting.

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My dad started to going, what's what's actually going on here?

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Then you have the Brady Bill and they sought weapons

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ban and all that, and so you start seeing he

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wasn't alone. That was a big demographic shift in the

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U where a lot of people that were just centrist,

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mainline people were like, what's the government doing here? You know,

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burning people alive in Waco, and you know, going after

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Randy Weaver shooting his wife in the head at Ruby

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Ridge holding her baby because he had a gun that

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was too short, you know, stuff like that. I mean,

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what's going on? And so he wasn't alone. I got

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to go to a lot of meetings and other things

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that ended up going to see people like a Lieutenant

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Colonel bo Wrights, which was you know, if you listen

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to the Patriot Radio Awards in the nineties, him and

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Bill Cooper were big figures there. And so I was

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plugged into you know, we go to books shows and

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stuff at these conferences that had have you know, black

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helicopters over America? What is the New World Order? And

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you know I was seeing this stuff as a teenager.

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Now I can tell you I didn't like that. I

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was like, well, I don't want to live in this world.

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I mean, it was showing you possibilities, and that's what

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I know now. And they were right about a lot

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of stuff, wrong about some stuff, but more right than wrong.

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And of course everything came crashing down with the Manchurian

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candidate Timothy McVeigh showing up in the Murrow Building in Oklahoma, city,

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and that's where they put a stop to that. Of course,

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that's the precursor for the Patriot Act, that Bidend drew

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up and all that stuff that we know that surrounds that.

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That's a false flag operation. There's something inherently kind of

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like nine to eleven. It was a it was a test,

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but that was the way to squash and put a

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black eye on anybody who was, hey, I'm for the Constitution,

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I believe that you have the right to you know,

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the bill, I'm for the build of rights, I'm for

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sovereignty and all the rest of that. That squashed that

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movement for a long time. And you know post nine

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to eleven world, which everything's very confusing. But I started

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as slowly as I grew older, you know, when I

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joined the military and started to see the inner workings

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in minutia of foreign policy. Because he's here one like

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I was the part of the first Army company on

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the ground and came to Afghanistan. So you know, I

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was briefed by General Maddis like in front of me.

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Like I get off the plane and he's briefing. So

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that was how close. And I'm an observer. It's not

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like I'm important. I was an E four but part

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of a very special union. It was military police, mostly

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to help gather intelligence and other things in secure areas.

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So I got to see a lot of the periphery

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of what was going on. And you know, I read.

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I read deeply, especially my tour in Iraq. I probably

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read close to two hundred books, That's what I've estimated

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on history and biography and other things, because I wanted

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to self educate him. The more I looked into it,

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the more I read history, the more I saw missing threads.

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And when I get to a place like where I

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read Gary Allen's work, none dare call it conspiracy or

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you know, I read read Patrick M. Kan and is

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the Death of the West. Not to say that's a

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conspiracy book per se, but it really touches on like

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who was the Frankfurt School? You know, what is cultural Marxism?

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Then you read Gary Allen and you're like, oh, by

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the way, the death struggle between communism and capitalism was

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all just a pageant, you know, like they put this

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show on, and who was Karl Marx and who funded Marx?

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And like you get into this and you read James

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Perloff who wrote truth as a lonely warrior, or Donald Jeffries,

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who I do a show with hidden History, and you

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start to see that history is not what the court historians.

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There's a there's it's an incomplete picture. So to me,

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conspiracy research and conspiracy theory too much as you know,

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a made up turn by the FBI and CIA, conspiracy theorist.

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I'm a conspiracy i gor Vidal said it best, because

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a conspiracy analyst. And

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he goes, they don't even have to they doesn't have

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to conspire. They all think alike, he's talking about the

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ruling class, and we're so far down the rabbit hole

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now with Fiat currency and a lot of people don't understand,

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like you take the governor off the system when you

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don't have to account for the money supply anymore. And

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so this expanded. There's always been conspiracy, there's always like

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conspirators and hidden hand. There's always those who want to

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shape history for their own ends. But we've accelerated. That's

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not on steroids, if you want to call it that now.

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So it's that's what I like to explain to my

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audience and talk about is that it's not like, you know,

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this is so far fetched. We have documented proof that

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the world's richest people set up the Bolshevik Revolution, set

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up Mao's Revolution in nineteen forty nine in China to

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take over the mainland China. We have all that. We

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have proof with Anthony Sutton with you know, Wall Street

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and the Rise of Hit. We have all this is documented.

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It's not conspiracy theory. This is just research that doesn't

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get put into mainline books because mainline history says, okay,

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we're just you know, going through this flow of history.

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Oh there's a dictator, Oh there's a war, and now

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the world's reset, you know, and that just happened organically.

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And these movements don't need funding or support or anything.

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They come out of nowhere because it's all ideological and

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that sounds good on paper until you realize what it

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takes to put these things together, so you unpacking. This

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has been a passion of mine and I can't believe

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I get to do what I do. I did a

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show last couple of weeks ago on Paragruther with with

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Donald Jeffries on his new book called The American Memory Hole.

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We got done, and I asked my co host, mister Anderson,

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I said, do you believe we get to do this?

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So cool? They have these deep conversations on history, so

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it really ties back to what I do for a

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profession as well. But the sound money and gold and silver.

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But that's hitting a nutshell. That's what got me started.

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That's the long way around saying why.

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Right, Yeah, I am to kind of touch on some

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of that, like you bring up I've heard you bring

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it up in the past on different episodes about the

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three trillion dollars that Rumsfeld announced that, you know, and

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what hit me lately was trying to explain, like so

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many people have forgotten about that, right or never even

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knew about the three trillion missing dollars until now you've

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get you get this assistant what was she an assistant

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Secretary of Housing and Urban Development that just gave testimony.

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It was for the Bush found the Bush administrations. Yeah,

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crack Katherine Austin the twenty one trillion dollars.

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eight times the size of the three trillion. But like

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this stuff wasn't going on forever. I gotta I don't

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know what to tell you.

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You got to think of the scope and scale here, Okay.

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So in nineteen seventy nine, I was born the day

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the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, which was ironic because you know,

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twenty two years later on my birthday, and on my birthday,

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I'm flying into Afghanistan. So you go back and look

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at that.

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America.

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Okay, we've been off the gold standard for eight years.

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The debt of the US was just under a trillion, okay,

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right before Reagan. Now we go into debt. We go

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into a trillion dollars in debt every ninety days. So

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it took us from It took us from seven teen

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seventy six to nineteen seventy nine to hit a trillion

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dollars in debt, and now we do it every ninety days.

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And you know, you fast forward to two thousand and one.

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Donald Rumsfell, newly appointed Secretary of Defense for the second time,

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for the second time, comes out most people don't know that,

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comes out and says, we cannot account for two point

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three trillion dollars, and he goes on to say that

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it's going to be when we've got this accounting wing

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and the Pentagon and we're gonna be looking for it. Now.

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Whatever hit the Pentagon hit the accounting office.

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So weird, Yeah, total coincidence.

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So more than twice the debt of the US in

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nineteen seventy nine goes missing and they can't account for it.

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So it's not like it's not like, hey, we overspent.

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We can't account for twice the the accrued debt of

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this nation one years prior. It's just gone. So we

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don't know where it is, but we'll find it, don't

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you trust us? And that is where the you have

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to suspend disbelief to be involved in politics now, like

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because you're just going you don't talk. I mean, you're

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not talking about the real existential issues. It's just a

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lot of maneuvering and minutia and uh and like I

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don't have all the answers. I just try to ask

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better questions because I think that's a better picture of reality.

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But you're right, I mean, it's it's so much of that.

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I mean, it's it's not even about having the right answers,

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it's about being like, this is something weird, like this

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isn't this is a glitch, like what what is happening here?

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And what you know? It's putting your finger on that

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and being able to leave. Well, it's like we said,

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like the justification for going into Iraq the second time,

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we had every button talk about the WMDs and this

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and then the other thing, and and it turns out

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that they didn't have the WMDs they thought they had.

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But here's the point, and this is what I say

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to people. We knew they had WMD's because Donald Brumsfeldt

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sold them to them like he has like like he

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has the receipt.

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That's one of my favorite cutaway clips from the two

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thousand and eight presidential election, because you have hacked like

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Sean Hannity, and you know, the Fox News crowd was

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totally a gas that this guy named Ron Paul, this

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unknown congressman from Texas is putting throwing a wrench into

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their mechanisms of this is the Republican primary. Because he's

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getting all the donations, he's getting all the love and

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the support, he's winning the online polls, but you know

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they don't want him to do anything. So he's you

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know Hannity's grilling Ron Paul and he says, so you

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think it's okay that he can gas his own people

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you're talking about because he's we're talking about the Iraq War,

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you know why we went in? And Paul was saying

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it was a mistake, and it's about to go to commercial,

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and Ron Paul just looks at Sean Hannity and says,

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we gave him the gas. And Hannity doesn't know, like

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he can't compute that that is the way the world works,

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you know, and it just goes to commercial. I that

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was one of the finer moments in my life for

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twenty I was twenty eight and I just thought, Wow,

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somebody really said it, and there's somebody that has a

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mind for how this really works. And I remember Donald

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Rumsfeld on CNN they brought up that clip of him

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shaking Saddam Hussein's hand in the eighties and he goes,

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where did you get that? And they said, oh, we

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got it from the archives and he just said, isn't

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that interesting?

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Isn't that? And now I bet they're not in the

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art gives Oh.

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Yeah, Rubb, it's so much they scrubbed. I mean, they scrubbed. Well,

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we could get into nine to eleven, lord, you know,

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because I mean I'm a little bit of a piece

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of that history, just a tiny portion. But I saw

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some things.

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That Where were you on nine to eleven?

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Oh? Interestingly enough, I was in Sophia, Bulgaria representing the

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United States on the American powerlifting team.

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Oh yeah, outrage, I forgot that you did the powerlifting thing.

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Yes, I was a world champion power I should have

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I should include that in my bio. But look, I trained.

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I'm forty five. Uh, you should see. I'm so sore

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all the time. I love it though, you know I'm sore.

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I heard.

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Oh yeah, I try to. You know. It's funny because

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I get older and now i'm I'm I'm probably less.

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Uh.

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I was maybe a little bit stuffier when I was young,

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you know, like maybe a little bit more conservative. And

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now I've got you know, I'm tattooed. I got tattoos,

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and I'm wearing be you know, I got a necklace

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and stuff. It's so funny if I could talk to

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my former self. But I'm like, I became a little

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bit more spiritual and if you want to call like

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metaphysical or.

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Because I have to.

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Yeah, I got so so much of me is youthful

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except my body. It's like I'm strong, but oh man,

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don't ask me. Like in the morning, I'm like, oh lord,

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you know, like my hips and everything else. I'm I'm hurting, man,

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I'm hurting. But it's a good life. And you know,

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I'm glad. I did all those things when I was younger,

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and it taught me a lot. Yeah, I was on Yeah,

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unlike George H. W. Bush, Like he didn't know where

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he was on the day Kennedy was assessed. That never

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knew it changed. He doesn't quite know where he was.

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Everybody knows where they were. It's funny. I know this story.

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I ran for Congress into twenty thirteen, fourteen against the

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last World War two veteran in Congress. His name was

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Ralph Hall, and now he's he became my very good

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I knew him since I was a kid. He used

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to be a Democrat, switched over. You know, he was

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friends with LBJ and John.

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I love that when that happens too.

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But he switched up. But he was I mean, he

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was an old school politician type, like you know, hand

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he'd shake hands. He was just yeahs babies, like he

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had strategy, but he was. He didn't spend a lot

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of money. He's had a name, you know, he'd been

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doing it. Yeah for so long. We talk history for hours,

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especially when he was out of power. I lost the election.

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Obviously I helped him, and then he lost the runoff

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to John ratcliffeho's now head of the CIA. Yeah, and

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John Ratcliffe they would have me go out and speak

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for Ralph in the last election, to be a surrogate,

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and so John doesn't like me very much. And I

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think now I'm like, now he's headed the CIA. I hope,

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you know, get droned or something. But he was on

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that signal deal that they just had on that conversation

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that got funny. Yeah, but Ralph. I asked Ralph one day,

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I said, Ralph, where were you on November twenty second,

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nineteen sixty three, And he said, well, I was getting

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ready to leave Rockwall, Texas to go to Austin to

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meet the president because that's where Kennedy was headed. So

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he was scheduled to go to the dinner that never was.

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So he knows where he was supposed to be. And

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that's because they were such friends with John Connelly. He

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was riding in the car, yeah, with Kennedy. So you know,

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I've got to you know, it's funny in my life,

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I've got to be just again on that periphery of

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the outside of and talk to people who lived through

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so much history. And I think I have a decent

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historical sense, and I try to learn more every day.

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But it's a bigger picture than what we're taught when

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we're younger, especially through the mainline history. So it's good

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to have alternative media to ask these questions.

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Oh yeah, for sure. I was actually in Egypt when

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nine to eleven kicked off and we were watching it

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on We were watching it happen on AFN and South

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Camp and Sinai and Nama Bay Egypt as part of

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the multinational force and observers that was there. And it

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was so surreal because once the Pentagon whatever hit the

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Pentagon hit the Pentagon, they called General Quarters and we

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all went running to our posts right and we were

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on alert for the next thirty days or so basically

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until we until we in to Afghanistan. Well, some folks

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went into Afghanistan, but yeah, crazy, it was absolutely insane.

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So it was an insane time. My unit that I

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was with, I was I was a colonel's driver at

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Fort Bragg. They'd moved me over there because I'd done

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my first tour in Kosovo. Came back. They found out that,

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you know, Tony's a world champion powerlifter, and my colonel

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at the time said, Ardiber, just go lift. You wanted

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to get on the net. You've done your tour. Love

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what you've done. Be my driver. Go lift. So I

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started winning competitions again, and you know, I won the nationals.

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So I was going to go over and represent the US.

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And so I go over to Bulgaria to represent the

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United States. So when I was gone, the unit I

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was with deployed immediately to the Pentagon. So had I

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been there, I would have a different story. I would

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be telling you what I saw at the Pentagon immediately

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following whatever hit the Pentagon. Now I never asked. I

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never got to see many of those people again. I

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mean they were gone, they were deployed. And so I

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got back and they put me on the line unit,

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which is the one O eighth and P Company. It

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was actually airborne Ariostol, which I think the only one

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in the army and said you're going to go to Afghanistan. Okay,

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so we got ordered, we were ready to go. I mean,

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so I was in calendar year. It's funny people ask me,

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so you were first in so it was like two

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thousand and three, and I'm like two thousand and one.

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Like I was there in Afghanistan into two thousand and one.

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So that gives you that perspective I have now, especially

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what I know about that timeline and who's been Lauden

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Is and Heighta and all the rest of that. It really,

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I mean, that always burns in my mind because departmentalization

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is really important. There was high level officials there asking

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people on the ground, when's the last time you saw

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Sama bin Laden? But we know now that the station

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chief in Dubai it's for the CIA met with Ben

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Lauden in July of that year while he's on dialysis, right,

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because he's an asset, you know, and they knew he

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was in rob Waalpendi, Pakistan on September is late as

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September tenth, So there's a it's not all monolithic where

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everybody knows everything, and we don't know everything about nine

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to eleven, but what I do not believe is the

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official story. That's a fairy play. That's another one of

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those invisible enemies, you know.

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For sure, for sure. I so just to transition the

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touch to talk about some more like kind of like

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where we're going, right. So one of the first things

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I did when I got out, I got out of

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the army in May of two thousand and three, and

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well officially I went on terminal leave in April and

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they I got out thirty days later. It was May

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twenty first. Technically, my ets right May twenty first, two

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thousand and three, and they stop lost everybody in the

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Oath in the in the O three field on June first.

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So I kind of made it out under the skin

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of my teeth. Literally. There's some guilt for that, but

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at the end of the day, I look back and

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I'm kind of happy it happened. But one of the

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first things I did is I made some investments in

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precious metals. So's a very smart person at the time

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had told me to buy you know, I had started

459
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.640
down the rabbit hole. They had told me to buy

460
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.079
precious metals, and I at that time with my you

461
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.960
know that check you get when you get out, I

462
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.279
bought some silver and I bought some gold because gold

463
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.160
was still you know, I mean at that time it

464
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.119
was you know, yeah, it was like actually it was

465
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:17.440
three hundred and somewhere around three seventy five, ye somewhere

466
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.319
around in there. Because I bought this in October of

467
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:27.799
three and I bought like three ounces of gold and

468
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.680
I bought like ten ounces of silver, and silver was

469
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.960
at like just under five bucks, which is insane now

470
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.960
that you think about it, right, And I actually I

471
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.720
actually still have those those actual physical silver. I probably

472
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.079
shouldn't telegraph that, but.

473
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.720
And it's over here in my common it's over here.

474
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:54.079
It's in my safe right over here, you know. But

475
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:59.839
either way, how did you Because you said you've gone

476
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.960
the little winding road of entrepreneurship, been there, done that.

477
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.640
I've done it as well, and you landed square in

478
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.079
the gold sector or in the precious metal sector. So

479
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.119
how did that? How did that happen?

480
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.920
That is a I mean I've often thought about. I really,

481
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.160
you know, it's it's something I have a lot of

482
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.559
gratitude for, and it's probably just God's mercy pointing me

483
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.200
in a way like where I start noticing, well, my

484
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.519
Dad had always bought gold, and I somewhat understood it.

485
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.880
It's funny you mentioned that if you'd bought thirty thirty

486
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.680
five hundred dollars worth of gold and around that time

487
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.359
that you were getting out of the army, you would

488
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:49.559
have thirty five thousand dollars. Now, yeah, say, if you

489
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.680
save thirty five hundred dollars in cash, you have thirty

490
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.680
five hundred dollars in cash, and good luck with that,

491
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.839
but you would have thirty five thousand. Basically, I'm just

492
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:58.680
ten xing it roughly.

493
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:05.319
Yeah, because what happened. It's at thirty three ninety three

494
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.599
as we speak. I think something like that.

495
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.200
Yeah, and so it's roughly right, right, you'd have a

496
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.000
ten x. And of course, if you had bought gold

497
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.119
in nineteen seventy one, which you couldn't have done because

498
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.400
it's illegal, but you just say that.

499
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.759
You have, which just makes my head explode.

500
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.599
It's illegal, you know, one hundred x from where we were.

501
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.400
And it's not so much that gold's going up in value,

502
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.359
it's that the dollars losing purchasing power against it. And

503
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.960
that's the magic trick that you know, you don't they

504
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.440
don't teach you in school, because if they did, just

505
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.920
like Henry Ford said, there'd be a revolution in the morning.

506
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.640
People understood the banking system.

507
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.799
Right. Well, it's like people talk about nineteen fifties prices

508
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.599
or nineteen sixties prices. You had that one gentleman. I

509
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.960
think we talked about this last time we talked where

510
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.680
he had a diner and he was charging like nineteen

511
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.759
fifty five prices and accepting like a ten in like

512
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.680
ten cents pre nineteen uh.

513
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:06.039
Is it sixty four sixty sixty four and back three.

514
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.279
Sixty four dimes and you could buy a hamburger for that.

515
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.119
Yeah, I'm thinking about doing that with I was thinking

516
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.519
about doing my coffee business again, and and that and

517
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.039
saying any physically, if you come to a physical location,

518
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.599
we accept payments in pre nineteen.

519
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:23.519
I love it.

520
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.279
That's sixty five silver, you know.

521
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.160
Just so we need another veteran on coffee.

522
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.640
I know, just another one that has to be yeah. Yeah,

523
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.759
I had to be careful with that because I don't

524
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.400
want to go like make that the theme of it,

525
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.359
that is a veteran on coffee just yeah, right, a

526
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.559
little addition too, you know.

527
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.680
But if it's a static location that's kind of a

528
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.440
different animal.

529
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.000
So well, yeah, and we're doing we're going to do

530
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.880
something with it because we mentioned off air and you're

531
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.680
talking about uh, because the golden silver business is doing

532
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.599
pretty well. Well, I mean, I'm paying, I got I

533
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.440
got staff, I'm making pay Rossell, thank God for that.

534
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:08.960
But you need side projects, you know, and of course

535
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.759
you're going to get taxed to death. And so that's

536
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.160
a good side project. And that that's something really cool.

537
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.559
Everything I do is wolf themed and that the name

538
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.000
of my coffee is oh cool, there you go. I

539
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:22.640
love that.

540
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.279
We all do this stuff, you know, I love that.

541
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.240
I love it goodness.

542
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.279
But yeah, we're we're working on that. I've got that.

543
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.039
That project is Solo Lobo. That's lone wolf in Spanish,

544
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:46.319
so solo little coffee, fun time like that. Yeah, how

545
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.039
did I get into this?

546
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.640
Well, yeah, we went on a side tangent. That's okay.

547
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:57.279
The the the flow of history, there was learning more

548
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:01.519
about you know again those corridors, those those cul de

549
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.960
sacs in history that I'll talk about. And then the

550
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.799
money supply and I start really looking into silver. I start,

551
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.119
you know, buying silver dollars when I could and met

552
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.480
a couple of people in the precious metals business and

553
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.240
they said, well, you'd be good at this, and so

554
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.559
I took a chance in twenty eighteen and just opened

555
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.279
up a shop in San Antonio and said, let's see

556
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.480
if I can do this. And I did it on

557
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.000
a shoe string, you know, just like okay. You know.

558
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:33.200
I leaned on like having a refiner close by that

559
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.160
could X ray stuff and verify things that won't get burned.

560
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.759
And I used that to my advantage a lot. And

561
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.640
so I was pretty fortunate there and I had some

562
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.000
good clients. I went back on the radio. One thing

563
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.519
led to another and then I'm broadcasting over on Info

564
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.039
Wars and becoming a fill in host there. I got

565
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.920
a little bit wider known in alternative media, so my

566
00:33:56.039 --> 00:34:01.000
direct sales started to go in a positive direction. And

567
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.720
you know, I've been in bitcoin since twenty sixteen. I'm

568
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.239
still in bitcoin. We had Wiswolf Bitcoin, which I just

569
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.360
relaunched that. I had been in the ATM business for

570
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.920
a while, but I'm doing just a different type of

571
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:19.960
company now with bitcoin. So it was just a natural flow.

572
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.400
I remember my dad once I needed some help on

573
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.239
getting a fuel invoice paid I had a small convenience

574
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.679
store and it was just hard time. It's just back

575
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.719
around twenty ten, you know, it's like there's so much

576
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:41.840
a craft. Times dried up and I remember my dad

577
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.280
came by and helped me. He pulled out he had

578
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.039
his kruger Rans in his pocket and he handed me

579
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:48.840
some kruger rans and so there you go. And he

580
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:50.800
because he'd been saving them, He's like, I will help

581
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.559
you with that. You helped me with this thing, you know,

582
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.000
and it was basically paying me a commission. So I

583
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.760
took those krugar rands over to Dallas Gold and Silver,

584
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.320
and you know, I act like I know what I'm doing,

585
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.280
and I'm like, I'm just gonna need you. What's the

586
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.880
closest we can get to a spot on this Hell,

587
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.440
I did'n know what spot was, you know. I'm like,

588
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.519
I'm just mimicking it. I was thirty years old, and

589
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.239
I'm like, I think I can figure this out. And

590
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.840
you know, you do your first couple of transactions, you's like, oh,

591
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:21.800
that's how that works. And so it's just been I'm

592
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.320
very blessed and fortunately I get to do this, like

593
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.360
I get to help people and a few years ago,

594
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:34.239
we started a subscription service that really took off because

595
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.320
we targeted, I say targeted. We offered things to people

596
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:42.719
that otherwise wouldn't be buying precious metals because they either

597
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.039
the knowledge gap or the income gap. And the big

598
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.920
precious metals companies, I'm sorry, folks, they don't care if

599
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.880
you have five hundred bucks or fifty five thousand bucks.

600
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.079
It's not really in their wheelhouse. They wants you to

601
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.360
have fifty thousands, and that's what they have those commercials for.

602
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.039
So we have hundreds and hundred members in the low

603
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.599
fifties to one hundred and twenty five range on monthlies,

604
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.039
and then we have people all the way up to

605
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.599
five thousand on autos.

606
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.440
And we did Yeah, I'm I'm on it and I

607
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.280
love it. It just makes it a no brainer. I

608
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.159
don't have to think about it. And that's what was

609
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:18.440
so cool about it.

610
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.239
That was our goal was let we're buying in bulk,

611
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.400
you know, and then we were buying products from the

612
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.280
public a lot of times underspot, you know, because that's

613
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.199
traditionally what you do is the golden physical gold and

614
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.559
silver exchange. We're offering convenience and we can buy in

615
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.039
bulk and we never turn anybody away, and we'll take

616
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.920
those products and we'll put them in wolfpack. So that's

617
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.880
what I'm doing today. I'm in Branson, Missouri, and my

618
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.079
my CFO, she flew in to help me. Unwhch because

619
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.199
it becomes so many moving parts. It's when I started

620
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.440
this business, it was me a legal pad in my

621
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.960
labrador and I can just Hey, I create five sales

622
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.679
to day. Here's what my cost was. This is my

623
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.880
gross profit. You know, I can eat this week. You know,

624
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.760
That's how I did it. I can buy groceries and

625
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.719
gas and great and rents covered. And now we have

626
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.679
you know, two locations, and I've got an off site

627
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:19.960
head trader. She helps me and yeah, because she's wonderful

628
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.480
and she does all my direct sales. And I've got

629
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.400
seven employees. I mean, it's like it's it's become a

630
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.679
bit of a thing. You know. It's took ye so

631
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.239
and I have a CFO and I would have never

632
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:34.599
thought that, but.

633
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.920
Yeah, I get it.

634
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:38.920
I'll be the CFO.

635
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:40.119
No, it doesn't know.

636
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.199
I need to do podcasts and talk to people.

637
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.840
So yeah, a little delegation time.

638
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.840
Yes, So it's it's been a again. It's a it's

639
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:53.519
an adventure, always meeting interesting people. And I love coins

640
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.119
and history and I'm learning stuff every day. You know,

641
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.320
you get to see cool stuff like I just bought

642
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.519
for inventory. I bought this. This is really good. I

643
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:04.880
can't really see it, but I bought a nineteen fifty

644
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.440
two rolex that have been and somebody is safe for

645
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.400
decades in North Texas and was redone by one of

646
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.719
the watch people there in the area. And he came

647
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.519
to me and I said, yeah, I'll buy I'll put

648
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.760
it on inventory because I can hold this. It's store

649
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.360
of value to watch his gold and silver. Things that

650
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.559
are finite always catch my attention. And because we're living

651
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.960
in a sea of infinite fi currency and you know,

652
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.760
there's fifty two times more currency on Earth today than

653
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.159
when I was born. Now does that mean the currency

654
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.360
went up in value or you know? And that's what

655
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.760
they do. I ask people all the time. And there's

656
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.960
some of the fun stuff you can do with numbers.

657
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.480
It's like a does anybody know how long ago a

658
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.239
trillion seconds was? Like in time? I mean, have I

659
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:56.480
asked you this before.

660
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.280
Like how long? Yeah? And I don't remember, but it's like.

661
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:03.679
It's thirty two thousand years. Yeah, because a billion seconds

662
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.599
ago was thirty two years, so a thousand billion, so

663
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.440
it's thirty two thousand years ago in time. Yeah, tell

664
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.159
me that we're gonna pay off this national debt that

665
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.880
is accumulating a trillion in every hundred days.

666
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.679
Yeah it is. I was explaining that to my kids

667
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:27.159
the other day because the the million and billion and

668
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:32.360
now trillion dollar word is just getting thrown all over

669
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:37.440
the place. Those those words are just thrown out there

670
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.880
and kids don't get what a billion dollars actually is,

671
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:48.039
Like a billion dollars is one thousand million dollars and

672
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:55.719
a trillion is one thousand billion dollars, Like it's beyond fathomable,

673
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.239
like you can't and we're throwing them around. Oh yeah,

674
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.280
you know, we're thirty two trillion in.

675
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.920
Debt, like, no big deal.

676
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.039
Do you understand what that means?

677
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.119
Well, that like you get reaching a point where, like

678
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.960
Dick Cheney said that deficits don't matter. Yeah, we're testing

679
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.719
that because now we're close to one hundred and thirty

680
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.840
percent of debt to GDP, which grows domestic products, so

681
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.199
everything you every trans at all that so we're one

682
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.280
hundred and thirty percent of the debt. That's a metric

683
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.719
that economists and people that are you know, very technical

684
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.199
look at and say, you cross that threshold, you start

685
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:39.280
to see rapid decline in the overall faith and power

686
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.559
of the economy in general.

687
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.719
We've seen it all over Europe. Yes, come on, like,

688
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.199
why are we different? We're not. We're not different.

689
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.840
Math doesn't care about your belief systems, and math just is.

690
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.440
It just exists and once you reach a certain level.

691
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.719
And that's why we were never intended to be especially

692
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.679
the fact owning of the United States was a bimetallic system.

693
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.480
The founding fathers were geniuses. They weren't perfect, but they

694
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.360
were geniuses, and they set this up because they knew.

695
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:16.199
History shows us that paper currency, even like Thomas Jefferson said,

696
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.840
paper is poverty, okay, and Voltaire the philosopher said that

697
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.719
all paper currency goes back to its natural state and value,

698
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:28.039
which is zero. They just know that instinctually, and so

699
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.159
many scams and schemes come out of that. And who

700
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.599
controls the money supply and go back to the Rothschilds

701
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.559
in the nineteenth century, Mayor Amshell Rothschild saying, you know,

702
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.559
I care not who sits on the British throne. The

703
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.039
person who controls the British empire, the control is the

704
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.519
one who controls the British money supply. And I controlled

705
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.159
the British money supply. That's a real quote, by the way. Yeah,

706
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.920
that I mean, that's that is some super arrogance. But

707
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.880
he was right, I mean in so many ways. And

708
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.599
you know, the bankers fund both sides of wars. They fund,

709
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:03.360
they fund. We perceive is the nature of reality opposing itself.

710
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.760
But when you take a step back and you realize, okay,

711
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.079
well there was some wisdom and why we were supposed

712
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:14.480
to have some accountability in our money. And there was

713
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.880
no inflation in the nineteenth century, by the way, so

714
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.760
like all of the eighteen hundreds, I mean, with little

715
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.159
peaks of valet there was I mean, you had Lincoln

716
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.719
with his greenbacks in the Civil War, there was something.

717
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.159
He was shot in the head in public, so it

718
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:32.079
was JFK. They both had greenbacks direct from the treasury.

719
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.440
But there was an important lesson in that is, you know,

720
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:41.920
you bought something in the time of George Washington, it's

721
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.280
going to cost the same in nineteen oh five. Okay,

722
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.960
so we talk about inflation, like, oh, it's just you know,

723
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.480
when I was a kid, is it just is it

724
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.920
just happens? I remember watching the movie Falling Down with

725
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.119
Michael Douglas.

726
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.000
Such a good movie, isn't it?

727
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.760
Though? And I watched it when I was a kid.

728
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:05.719
There's a couple of scenes that really stick out to me.

729
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.719
But one of the ones is he goes into the

730
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.320
the convenience store and he says, I'm rolling prices back

731
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:17.159
to nineteen sixty five, and because he didn't like the

732
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.039
new pricing, and that is like that, it's like, why

733
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:24.719
do we pay more? Well, you're you're paying more, You're

734
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.760
working harder to make less because the expansion of the

735
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:32.239
money supply is robbing you of your energy. And I

736
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.559
think it's not just a mathematical scheme. To me, it's

737
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.840
a spiritual thing because it's it's like a certain class

738
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.880
is feeding off of you, trading your energy for something.

739
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:52.639
What is what is? Your friend Sam Tripley always said

740
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.119
call it Babylonian money magic.

741
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.639
Babylonian money man. Well, that's what it is. And Joseph

742
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.760
Ferrell wrote a book called Avalon's Banksters and it's a

743
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.039
great little book, and he talks about he talked with

744
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.400
the Roschild family. They believe that they they harkened back

745
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.280
to the line of Nimrod, you know. And by the way,

746
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.760
I've been to what was supposed to be Nimrod's palace

747
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.039
in northern Iraq, you know, the Tower of Babble and

748
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.679
all of that stuff. I was supposedly supposedly saw that

749
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.239
or whatever that was supposed to be right, But that

750
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.000
they've been doing this is from time immemorial, like they

751
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.320
want to control. I was just reading a history of gold,

752
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.440
really great book, very dense and a lot of history,

753
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.239
and it was talking about Alexander the Great and he

754
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.760
toppled the Persians, and the persons didn't really use gold

755
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.679
as money per se, but it was an offering, and

756
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.559
they had this massive treasury because that to them, gold

757
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.920
was a spiritual thing, like an offering. And he basically

758
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.000
took that storehouse that they had of gold when he

759
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.320
took out the Persian empire, and it was like three

760
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.559
hundred tons, and it flooded the known world at the time,

761
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.199
and of course made prices go down as far as

762
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:11.239
like the price of gold or the purchasing power because

763
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.320
it flooded the market, but it made all these other

764
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.760
things start happening, you know, all this commerce opened up

765
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:20.159
and everything else. He lived, he died, and was it

766
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.360
three thirty two BC or something like that. Alexander the Great,

767
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.239
he was thirty thirty two years old, and they had left,

768
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.199
you know, this indelible mark on civilization and trade routes

769
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:36.159
and everything else. And then we didn't see that again

770
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.599
until fourteen ninety two or so with Columbus in the

771
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:44.119
New World Gold. You know, civilization is really built on

772
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.719
the ability for people to have stores of value as

773
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.639
money that is stable, and for every day people to

774
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.239
have access to that. That's how civilizations are built, and

775
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.079
great nations are built on that, and they decline on

776
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.679
on fiat currency, fake money and free trade other things

777
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.639
that that we have now, which is like the we

778
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.519
worship at the altar of these things. And that's why

779
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.400
you see such such staggering decline here in the West,

780
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.679
I think is because we removed, we removed any continuity

781
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.119
of people trading their energy and time for something that

782
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.000
they can store for later. You constantly think of the

783
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.119
think of all the work we have to do to

784
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.000
house value in our work now because we have to

785
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.920
chase things like stocks, real estate.

786
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.599
And none of what's tangible, I mean real estate is,

787
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:43.480
but it's still it's different.

788
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.199
It's a bubble and the problem is too much of

789
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.760
a bubble because it has if when you have fiat

790
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.840
currency every time, Now, when you have a home loan

791
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.320
and you swipe a credit card, that's currency creation. You

792
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.000
just made new currency. And it doesn't you think, well,

793
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.559
the bank loan me the money. Well the bank sort

794
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.679
of did, they signed off on it. The said did

795
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.639
that they funded this loan. So that's new currency against

796
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.800
something that never so it never existed against something that did.

797
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.320
And yeah, so that that game you're playing, it just

798
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.440
robs you of so much of your time. And you

799
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.760
know that's why I think things like bitcoin are important too.

800
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:18.760
That's a new technological advancement.

801
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.719
And yep, what do you think about And I know you,

802
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:24.920
I know you you trade in them, and I know

803
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.840
you mess around with it. It's goldbacks.

804
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.679
I like goldbacks. Yeah, I mean you're paying a premium.

805
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.360
But think about this, I mean, uh, gold's not going

806
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.800
anywhere as far as like, it's not gonna start it's

807
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.000
not gonna start tanking like, oh, we just sold off

808
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.000
all the gold. Everything's great now.

809
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.199
Especially with the way the yeah, the way Fiat's going,

810
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:51.360
it's an actual store of wealth.

811
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.559
So right, And so I mean goldbacks. You are paying

812
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.039
a premium, but they're twenty four carrot notes and melt

813
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.039
them you get goldt a stack of them, that's gold.

814
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.079
And we buy a lot of them for Wolf pack.

815
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:05.840
I mean, I try to get them in the lower

816
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.840
tiers so people get a little bit of gold because

817
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.800
you know, I can't put no People ask me, can

818
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.760
I get some gold in my my lone wolf package

819
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.960
for fifty bucks? And I'm like, yeah, you get a

820
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.039
gold back. That's about all I do.

821
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.880
You're not getting like a you know, hell.

822
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.719
A half gram retails for sixty dollars, yeah, you know,

823
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.159
or more, and so I mean even a half gram.

824
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.559
So it's a good way to do fractional gold for

825
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.679
the long term, to have something tradable that you can

826
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.559
do back and forth. And you know, silver works that way.

827
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.639
We mentioned the pre nineteen sixty five silver always good

828
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.440
to have. But we're this is we're in a revolution

829
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.559
of the financial system. I mean, and I feel like

830
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:52.440
I'm missing the boat on a bunch of it because

831
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.760
it's so much happening, so much.

832
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.440
It's just happening so fast. It's hard to pivot so fast.

833
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:04.440
It's it really is, and uh, you know it does,

834
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.079
it takes it it. I have to center myself in

835
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:11.960
the morning to go, Okay, I need to know what's

836
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.079
going on. I was need to act on what's going on,

837
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:18.440
and uh, to do all that you can and forgive

838
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.920
myself for missing out on a whole bunch of because

839
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:26.599
it's the new economic world order, you know, the the

840
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.000
elites they call it the Great Reset.

841
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:36.320
Yeah, for a reason. Yeah right, and even that is

842
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.480
shifting at this point. It's so you know with like

843
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.960
guys like KOs Schwab retiring or whatever he's doing or whatever,

844
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.039
and you know, going back to his planet, he's gone.

845
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.719
He's putting this Klingon costume back on. And he said,

846
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:50.480
now right.

847
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.639
I like the the Babylon b did a great story.

848
00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:00.440
Cloud steps down to spend more time with this lizards family.

849
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:05.559
It's the best thing ever. Ah man. I love the

850
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.920
battle on me sometimes so good. Yeah. So I send

851
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.719
that to friends, like I made a what do they

852
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.440
call that a jeff a gift? Whatever? Yeah, And I

853
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:19.199
send it to my buddies. Standing at that podium with

854
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.039
that outfit on, with the shoulders that are like it

855
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:29.760
literally looks like a Klingon outfit. Unbelievable, but whatever, all right,

856
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.760
So wrapping things up, can you just broadcasting seeds is

857
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.119
the name of this podcast. Can you uh, just plant

858
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.960
some seeds in the audience's mind of where we're going

859
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:45.519
and maybe what they can do to like try and

860
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.639
do something to sting on with their fingernails. You know.

861
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.920
Well, the good news is you're still early. Okay, we're

862
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.440
still early in the game. Even though it doesn't look

863
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.320
that way. Things are going to happen faster than they've

864
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.239
happened previous. That's the way that history works. I don't

865
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.360
make the rules. It's just the way that it is.

866
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:10.519
So I would ask people to start doing research yourself,

867
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.239
and don't just listen to me or anybody else. Look

868
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.199
for yourself. Internalize that. What's the difference between currency and money?

869
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.320
Sometimes they can be the same thing, but today they aren't.

870
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:25.000
Currency is without inherent value in and of itself, whereas money,

871
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:30.599
like silver, it has a use for industrial metal, for monetary,

872
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.480
for medicine. Same thing with gold and it's finite. There's

873
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.639
only so much in the earth. You know, you can

874
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:38.079
go get it, but it takes a lot of work,

875
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:42.239
so there's proof of work, and that same thing with bitcoin.

876
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.559
We're in a race, I think as individuals to try

877
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.559
to acquire what is finite as much as we can

878
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.159
with the infinite currencies. So if we're dealing with dollars,

879
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.159
do something every day where you're investing in yourself, which

880
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.320
is a great return. So your knowledge, your own business,

881
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:06.320
whatever it is, an asset that you own, and how's

882
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.679
that value? Your energy, which this is kind of a

883
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.559
metaphysical thing into things like gold, silver or bitcoin. This

884
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:18.239
is my opinion. This helps you hedge against what's going

885
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:24.119
on out of your control with the Babylonian money magic ause.

886
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.440
Sam Tripoli says that you once you start looking at

887
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:31.760
that in a different framework, like we're all very fortunate

888
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.840
that in nineteen seventy four, Gerald Ford made it legal

889
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:36.880
for you to own gold again. Okay, that was an

890
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:41.320
executive order overturning FDR's executive order in nineteen thirty three

891
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:43.039
making gold illegal.

892
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.960
So it's a forty plus odd period where you couldn't

893
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.039
legally own gold, which is yeah, blows mine, blows my mind.

894
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.599
Right, it's like why you know, But it's because they

895
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.039
decoupled from the gold standards so we could be our

896
00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.840
own bank now. And the technologies of decentralization or so promising.

897
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.039
Now there's pitfalls and there's I mean, I mentioned Katherine

898
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.719
Austin Fitz earlier. She had mentioned me the other day

899
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.320
and was like, sorry, Tony, bitcoin's a scam, and she

900
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.480
may be right, maybe I'm wrong, but I think the

901
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:18.360
culture around bitcoin is very positive. You got to think

902
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:22.079
of the millions and millions and millions of people that

903
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.559
are awake to this now that weren't awake to this

904
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.320
ten plus years ago. When I first started in politics

905
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:33.519
and radio in my early thirties, I remember just being

906
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:37.639
an outlier. Yea. Now it's like, oh no, there's so

907
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.719
many people to understand what I'm saying. So it's not

908
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.960
gonna get better, Like the fiat currency system isn't going

909
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.840
to fix itself. They're just gonna They have one pretty

910
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:52.039
much one trick in their toolbag, and that's to hit

911
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:56.559
the print button and make more of them. So when

912
00:53:56.599 --> 00:54:01.119
you're in that, you know you're inside that cycle of history.

913
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.760
Now there there's going to be so many currency resets

914
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.840
the central banks for buying gold at a record clip.

915
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.639
I can give you some insight as a gold dealer

916
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.280
in two states. When gold go keeps going up, it

917
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.599
keeps going up. But I don't have buyers for those

918
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.760
large deals like I used to. But that's an interesting conundrum.

919
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.119
Has to go up when I have people selling to me,

920
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:29.800
somebody's buying. Those are institutions, ladies. Those are bigger players

921
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.719
than you. While you're selling, they're buying, and they're buying

922
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:33.440
for a reason.

923
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:36.559
I mean, like London can't even keep up with the orders.

924
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.679
Correct. So the Shanghai Gold Exchange and China they're moving.

925
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:45.199
They're going to have satellite warehouses for physical gold. So

926
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.719
I said this on tenfoil Hat back in December. I said,

927
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.400
gold is already the world's reserve currency. Again, it's the

928
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.679
plant of the dollar. You just don't see it yet.

929
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:58.119
And the world's moving away from the dollar a dedollarization.

930
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.760
So it's just a you can do things like join

931
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:03.280
wolf pack. I mean, you don't have to even do

932
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:05.159
it with me. This is just what I'm saying, making

933
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.400
it easy. Like if you want to set aside a

934
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:09.519
certain amount of budget, put in the metals, we'll buy

935
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it for you. If you got bigger questions, give us

936
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a call that help this stuff like that and even bitcoin.

937
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So I just try to provide. I try to provide

938
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real mechanisms to house your value and your work in

939
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a fiat world where there's ever declining value. And that's

940
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my mission statement.

941
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:37.000
And that's pretty awesome. Yeah for sure. So again, thank

942
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.880
you so much for coming on. But tell everyone where

943
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they can find you.

944
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Again, sure, so I made this really simple. If you

945
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.719
want to go and just check me out and get

946
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the links to everywhere everything that I do. Just go

947
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to Tony dot gold. Go to Tony dot gold. It'll

948
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take you to my website which is Ardeburn dot gold

949
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and that's just a directing domain and it shows you

950
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you can go to a wolf You can go to

951
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wolf Pack, can go to to Wisewolf, Bitcoin and my

952
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podcasts are all there. So Tony dot golds an easy

953
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way to get started. You can message me if you

954
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.559
have questions, and we're happy to hear from anybody's audience

955
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.320
and that's what we do. We're an education company too.

956
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.880
Absolutely, again, thank you so much, and we'll have to

957
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.360
do it again shortly because the world is a change

958
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:24.800
in place.

959
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:28.880
You know, I'm always available. Just call or text me.

960
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I'll make time for you.

961
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:31.840
Well, absolutely appreciate it.

962
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Appreciate you. Yeah.

963
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I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared, hold

964
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.440
me hostage and they don't fight fair, who don't pray

965
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:40.719
for me?

966
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.079
And white bro my tests? Who gonna save me?

967
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:44.360
If you not right here?

968
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.440
Move this darkness and make my sight clear, take me

969
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.119
your way because I don't like you. Go stop my

970
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.639
past day fill in the night. Heare wake me up

971
00:56:52.679 --> 00:57:15.039
and trapped in my nightmass trapped in my Nightmas, drowning, trowning.

972
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.039
I move the deeping apparitions of all my demons, all

973
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.400
my thoughts are come, making treason all alone. I'm going

974
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.679
you me screaming manifestations of my fists, regrets that stretched

975
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:29.960
out for light years. You can almost touch the light

976
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:34.000
homies right there, body free but trapped in my Nightmas.

977
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.480
I don't let me ja.

978
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:40.360
Our life is fading now. All my life is faith now,

979
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:42.280
all my life is fair.

980
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:43.559
It's a matter fair.

981
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:49.119
I don't mist my life is fading. Oh, my life

982
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.559
is fading.

983
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:20.599
We shot in my Nightmas, t