Aug. 19, 2025

The Christian Theological Dark Web: Where Theology Meets the Paranormal

The Christian Theological Dark Web: Where Theology Meets the Paranormal
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In this engaging conversation, Ricky Polyglot, a host of the Christian Theological Dark Web podcast, shares his journey into the realms of high strangeness, exploring the divine council, the nature of Satan, and the significance of knowledge in spiritual warfare. The discussion delves into biblical narratives, the role of the Nephilim, and the concept of deception in spiritual contexts, providing listeners with a thought-provoking perspective on these often-overlooked topics. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding spirituality, divine communication, and the nature of idols. They explore the concept of behemoths in modern contexts, the significance of the ether in spiritual practices, and the interplay between physical and spiritual realms. The discussion also touches on the role of energy and vibration in spiritual warfare, emphasizing the importance of understanding these concepts in a contemporary setting. The conversation concludes with reflections on near-death experiences and the eternal implications of our actions.

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Year, Joe, straight from the broadcast studio and then the static.

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This ain't no pret.

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Sound story, So as prophetic encrypt the signals from the

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shadows of the party we did where the trot got

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secret snow parted microphone alchemists scriptures with a twist, keep

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the frequency seeds in the midst We dropped fass like

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plagues revelations in the catus, broadcasting truth while they trapped

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in surveillans wisdom with a watchman's blade, forth what sound

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while your whole system faid blood moons that for love

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echoes in the pond, sasquas stopping through the fault lines

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of time. We ain't mainstream, We ain't just stream safer

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with the prophets to code the dreams. So with you

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trom in better guards of mind as broadcasting seeds.

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And were breaking the design design.

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Yeah, yeh, Joe, Joe, straight from the broadcast studio.

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Static, Right, Ricky, what's going on?

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Man?

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Tell us who you are and what you do and

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where can we find you?

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Absolutely?

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So?

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Who am I? I am a mysterious voice behind the microphone.

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No, I don't know.

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I am one of the hosts of the Christian Theological

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dark Web podcast. We explore my co host and myself

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who will be on shortly as it were. We explore

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really just the things that the church doesn't want to

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talk about. We try and really bring those to the forefront.

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For a lot of reasons, man, we try to bring

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those to the forefront, because the Word tells us to

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clearly expose our enemies for who they are and what

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they are, and the farces that they run, the rackets

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that they run that they run, and yeah, man, frankly,

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we're called out to We're called to really point those

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things out and have the church be aware of what

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the heck's actually going on. So that's super important to us.

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We really focus a lot on the Divine Council. That's

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a huge deal to us. We even have a a

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behind the paywall, our paywall super it's like three bucks

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a month or something, but we have a.

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Is it even a paywall, Yeah, it's hardly a paywall.

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If you want to sign up, go do that. But

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we have obviously episodes to come out a little early.

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Every once in a while will have an episode that's

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you off the books, but really it's focused on the

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Divine Council worldview. Devotional. So we actually have like a devotional,

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like a biblical devotional that's focused around the Divine Council

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and why that's important and how that plays out in

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our life and how we should you know, how we

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should live. Yeah, all that kind of stuff. So that's

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where're at. You can find us at really any shoot,

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any podcasting platform that you like. We're on YouTube as well,

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just like right, just like you and I are here.

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We do video podcasting as well as audio. You can

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find us anywhere. You'll notice my my subtitle at the

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bottom there is the polygot Dragon. There's a whole explanation

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about that. We can get into that in a little bit.

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But I study linguistics in college. I'm a Spanish interpreter

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by trade. I speak like four different languages. I don't

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use them all for work, but I speak just enough

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to be dangerous with some of them, right, and uh yeah,

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I men. You can find us anywhere. We're on Facebook,

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We're on TikTok, We're on Instagram, We're on.

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What's your what's your favorite place to go? Like where,

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what's the best place to interact?

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I kind of be honest, dude, I think for I

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think for anybody that takes what they're doing seriously and professionally.

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At this point, in my opinion, really is is Instagram.

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That's really what's what's uh kicking up the dirt, and

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it's moving people and in really interesting ways and connecting people,

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which is essentially actually what social media was designed to

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do and rarely does. So I really do like Instagram.

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I think it's probably the last, the least hostile, and

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probably the the outlet where you can most be taken

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seriously in my opinion.

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No, I don't disagree with you. I mean, X is

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its own thing. And then Facebook, dude, is just like

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what doesn't make any sense?

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But either way, it's kind of the bottom feeder of

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all the social.

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Something I'm write on Facebook, So.

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Yeah, yeah, into a lizard and you know all that

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good stuff, right, there's all that fun stuff.

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So so wait, all right, so let's I'm gonna this

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is the question I ask everybody, Yeah, it comes on,

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is what got you into this like world of this

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world of and I say high strangeness because all of

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it kind of you know, it revolves around that, whether

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it's you're into cryptids or or Christian theology or all

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the things who would ever think that that would be

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a thing, right, it's allination between I do too. I

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think it's amazing, it's awesome. But who would ever think, like,

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even even ten years ago, that's not a thing?

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No, no, it wasn't. It wasn't even like like a

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thing of a thing, bro, It wasn't even like a

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meta thing, you know. Yeah, So how did I get

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on this journey?

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Man?

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Covid?

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Bro Covid is what sent me down this rabbit hole?

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Like I I've I guess I'll give you a little

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bit of background so you can kind of understand where

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I come from. Shelley and I both have stories that

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we were kind of outcast individuals growing up. I was

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into well, I just didn't fit in in general, you know.

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I was not the I was not born into to

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wealth at all. My family was pretty meager as far

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as income goes. We were low middle class, real low

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middle class, you know, just kind of eken by enough

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to live in a city, but not really to do

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anything for the most part. And so I really grew

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up man, frustrated, not fitting in. Couldn't buy the clothes

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I want, couldn't you know, I just couldn't make those connections. Ever,

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and when I was about thirteen twelve, I just got

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in the metal.

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Dude.

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It just spoke to me. It spoke to me deeply,

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and I was like, Okay, this actually makes sense to

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make the long story short, right. And I felt that

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there was a spiritual power there, like I just felt

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drawn to it. And so that kind of was what

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fueled me. I was super goth growing up through high

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school and middle school. I mean, like the whole nine

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yards man, Like I would paint my face like all

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decked out. Sometimes I was the full deal. I wasn't

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really into it, but I mean I was always I

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was always a Christian. Like, it just didn't for me.

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It just didn't make any sense. Bro, it just didn't

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make any I was just like, yeah, I mean I

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get all the other religions. I get it, like I

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get it. My only qualm with all this stuff was like, well,

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but but why does my religion seem to suck? I

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could go to church and I'm like, yeah, I know

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this is the truth, but why does it suck? You

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know what I mean? And I would look at stuff

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like Hinduism and Buddhism, and I would look at other religions,

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and I was just like, dude, there's so much like

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activity here, There's so much spiritual power going on. And

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then I come to church and like, you have to understand, dude,

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I grew up in a cessationist church, so like they

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didn't believe in any of the miracles or any and

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I was just like I wanted to like claw my

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eyeballs out, you know, when I was a kid. And

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then I started listening to metal, so I was like,

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you know, the devil's playground according to everybody in my church,

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right right, And yeah, dude, so I guess that was

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kind of my whole thing. I actually formed a band

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in Mexico. I lived in Mexico for about five years.

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We used our band to share the gospel just I

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mean just straight hardcore metal stuff like that. And it

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was around the time, yeah, just right around COVID man

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that God just kinda I just was discontented with what

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I was seeing, you know. I was already like kind

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of jaded by a lot of stuff. I was in

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the medical industry actually, when COVID went down, I was

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an interpreter in hospital full time, and so I was

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making the COVID rounds that I was talking to patients

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with doctors and like, you know, yeah, I was right there.

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I was right in the thick of it, man. And

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not too long after, you know, they took us out

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of the hospitals because it was insane and you know,

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I don't have to explain all that, but I ended

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up then I ended up getting fired, bro, because I

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refused to take the shot. I was like, I'm not

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doing it, like, cancel me if you want, kick me out,

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do what you want. And they did, and I said,

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all right, sounds good and miraculously anyway, I mean, we're

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actually God provided, like literally, the next day they called

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me from this other company started making a ton more money. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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The rest history.

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I mean, I could get into that all day, but

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you're to answer your question appropriately. It was really that.

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And there was one Shelley actually my co host. She

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was the one that shared a particular preacher. And I'm

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not much for listening to preachings. I don't really care

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for that. It's not it's never interested in me honestly,

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like ever, but she said me won by this dude

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whose name I always forget, but he's a kiwi. He's

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he's transplanted over here to the US and he's a

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missionary here in California. And I'll never forget that that

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that preaching. It was all about who's patent is in

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your DNA? And it was you know, that was a

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simple thing about how you know, the the chemical makeup

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of our DNA spells out the name Kilbow right, yeah,

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yahweh right. And so I just kept kind of brooding

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on this and brooding on this and brooding on this

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until it kind of just came to a head. And

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I don't I don't remember how I came across the nephilim,

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and then it just started to all make sense in

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my brain, and I was like, wait, why have I

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never read any of this stuff or understood any of it? Like,

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what is going on? Dude. I've always been fascinated by

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that kind of stuff. But way back when I read

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a Tom Horn book about cloning and all this kind

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of crazy crap, and I read it and I was like,

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I don't understand any of this stuff, and I just

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kind of put on the back burner. And then now

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looking back, I was like, oh man, I picked that

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book up again, and I was like, oh, dude, I

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get all of it. All of it makes sense now,

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it's all.

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Yeah it dude.

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To put it as light as I can, it literally

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changed my paradigm forever, Like I I can't see anything

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the same way. I literally was giving an intro to

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the youth at our church about the Divine Council yesterday.

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It was like a huge blessing, bro to be able

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to be like, here's the torch. Kids, take this, run

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with it. Understand your enemy, know who you face. So

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I hope that answers your question, man.

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For sure. Yeah, and then just to transition the like

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so all right, see that's something I talk a lot about.

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I've definitely done my research and I will be talking

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about it more often here coming up. But what so

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explain to folks that don't know what is the Divine Council?

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What is? What?

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Is that?

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A crazy concept that messes up your Christian theology if

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you've ever been a.

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Modern, normally kind that makes your head explode a little bit.

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But that's what I like doing on the show.

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So yes, as you should, my man, that's what that's

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the way to go with it. So the Divine Council.

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To try and sum it up as easy as possible

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is essentially what most Pagans would refer to as the pantheon, right,

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give it some more familiary familiarity and language and in

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a kind of common parlance. Uh, it's essentially the pantheon.

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Right, And and.

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Yeahweh is at the top of it. He is the

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divine ruler. But you know you're gonna see zeus or

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you're going to see some other figure at the top

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of that pantheon in other cultures, right, because he was

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the one that was was calling the shots. Well, to

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kind of break it down, the reason we know this

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exists is, first of all, dude, first person I hope

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to talk to when I leave this earth is Michael Heiser,

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so he can like educate the crap out of me, dude,

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to be like, yeah, let's see, but I probably won't

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need it at that point. I would be like, oh, dude,

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I know you. Michael talked about you. I remember you.

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You know I'll be saying all these guys. But to

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make it, you know, a short explanation is in Deuteronomy

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thirty two, And there's something called the Deuteronomy thirty two worldview,

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which essentially says that God, according to the sons of Man,

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took the sons of God and apportioned them to the

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layout of the earth. In other words, he said, all right,

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these people are in these places, you guys, the sons

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of God. And that's important. That's really really important to

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understand that there're sons of God, not sons of man,

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because that's us right. Obviously, yes, they were given the nations,

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they were supposed to rule over those nations. Now people

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are that's already messing people's theology up because they're like,

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but there's all like one God. I'm like, well, I mean, yes, yes,

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but no simultaneously because we get stuck on stuff because

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we misunderstand Hebrew. We just misunderstand words in the Bible,

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and so everyone's like, well, lohem, I mean that means

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God he's three and one. I'm like, yeah, I mean,

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none of my theology on that stuff changes. I'm still

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right there with you. The issue is that God is

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the one that calls all of those people, all those

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creatures and those beings Eloheim, Right, He's the one that

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calls them gods. And that's just a plural for God's

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that's all.

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little g guds.

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Yeah, so so people don't freak out, you know, so

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you're not like losing losing your pooh so to speak, right, like,

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but that doesn't make them any less deified. And people

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have a problem with that one. I'm like, well sorry then,

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you know, Like like Heiser always said, I'm sick of

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trying to protect people from their Bible. Read it for

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what it is, man. It's one of my major beefs

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with most people is that they want to read their

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life into the Bible. And like, dude, the Bible was

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not written to you, homeboy, like it was written.

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Yeah, everyone tries to humanize the Bible or it's not

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written for us. It's not about us. It's about God.

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It's really not. And and the Divine Counsel is a

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recalibrating of your understanding of reality because it takes the

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focus off of humanity and places it squarely back on God.

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It makes you realize, just like cryptids do, just like

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the UFO phenomena does, just like all those things do.

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It takes the focus, the central focus off of humans

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and it points it back to a spiritual war, which

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is exactly where we're at. And that's that's really my

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contention with people is because they're like, well, but God

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fights for I'm like, yeah, but dude, like under what context?

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Like what are we talking about? You know, if you

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don't know who you're again, if you don't know your enemy,

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how are you going to fight him? How are you

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going to wake up and go to battle? If you

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don't understand that when the word tells us stuff like watchers,

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the reason those guys are called watchers is because they

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never slumber. These guys don't sleep. They're constantly on the move.

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They're constantly strategizing, either for or against us, depending on

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which side they fight for right. And so really that

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is a kind of an explanation. Now you can there's

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all sorts of other stuff we can delve into, but

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that's really what the Divine Council itself is. It's an

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understanding that God is at the top of the hierarchy

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and he has governors essentially, you know, underhead.

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So I want to blow people out of the water.

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For one quick second too, is that Adam and Eve

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were on the Divine Council.

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Well they were, dude, they were.

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People are like, wait, what, yes, before before the fall.

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Yeah, they were on the divine Council. They were part

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of the Divine Council.

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They were And.

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To be even more specific, I'm glad you said that.

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I don't want to trip people up too much, but.

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We'll keep it face.

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Let's let's keep him centric as center as we can.

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I won't go too far down that rabbit hole because

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it gets deep. But Adam is essentially a representative. He

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was a representative of Earth of He was the caretaker

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of Eden, and he was his his and how do

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we say it, Sorry, dude, my Spanish interferes sometimes. His

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swing gottago his uh. What God entrusted him with was

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for him to go to the rest of the earth

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and subdue it appropriately. He was a priest farmer. That's

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what the dude was. He was a king priest farmer.

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That was his job, and so he is essentially had

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to report back his duties to the rest of the

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heavenly council. Hey, this is how this is going. We

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need to work on this and blah blah blah. And

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people are going to get superfriended by this too, because

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that means that God didn't make everything perfect and he

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did that on purpose.

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That will probably he didn't name everything. He didn't do

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all Like this is one of Adam's first jobs, is

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the name all the animals.

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Yep.

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Yeah, like this is something that people don't read in

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the butt like it's there, it's right there in your face.

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People don't think about it. They don't read it like.

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He was the steward.

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He was given dominion over period.

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Dominion.

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That's the word. That's the exact word, you know.

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It's it's that's a heavy word.

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It is, man, it's it's funny because the word in Spanish.

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You'll love this, dude. So the word is majorromo, which

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literally means the major over the dominion. That's literally what

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it means. I mean, that was his that was his right.

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So he was he was to be that steward. And

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it does trip people up because people are like, but wait,

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doesn't that by definition make him an eloheim as well? Yeah,

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with certain qualifications, it does. I'm not talking about, you know,

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the divine spark and all that. I mean, I'm not

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talking about any of that stuff. I'm talking specifically about, definitionally,

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what are we you know, God tells us that we

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will judge angels. Well, we ain't going to judge angels

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unless we get to sit on the council.

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Put that in your.

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Pipe and smoke it, right, I mean that's yeah.

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And some people can't get past that, like you know,

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and then they understand why Flallen are angry. It's like,

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well yeah, yeah man, and yeah, but whatever, I mean,

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you know, yeah, we're just different, that's it. Yeah, And

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Adam was made from different stuff. Part of it was

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the same, but part of it was different. So absolutely,

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because technically the sons of God, ye are more celestial,

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they're more what would.

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You call it?

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You know, you called it actually, honestly, you use a

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perfect word. I mean the word says that that when

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when the fallen, the Watchers, who every want to call

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them right sons of God, when they descended that they

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left their proper estate or their proper dominion, they decided

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to forfeit that right and went derelict. I mean that's

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what they did. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, man, it's it.

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It does mess people up, and and that's okay. I

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mean it took me, It took me a hot minute

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to be like, like I had to take this stuff

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in prairie dude. Personally, I was like, am I insane?

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Is this insane?

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What?

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What does this even mean? You know, like giants roaming

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the earth like that sounds ridiculous, you know it does

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if you're just like looking at out of your face value,

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of course it does. But I mean one of our

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contentions as well, Bennett, is that this is a there's

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historical press.

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For this man.

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This is not like, in fact, the majority of history

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favors what we're saying right now. It really does both

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pagan and not. These guys were walking around Egypt, they

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were walking around Canaan, they were walking around all parts

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of the Mediterranean, all over the earth. Frankly, I mean

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we go deep into that. They're all over the freaking place.

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They lift their footprints everywhere, no pun intended. It's the Bigfoot, right,

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So it actually makes more sense if you look at

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it this way. And I mean I could take you

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guys literally to the Bible, where we see instances of

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giants in Egypt still roaming around, still hanging out, you know,

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and there's historical president outside of the Bible too. I mean,

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you can look at Josephus. Josephus talks about the display

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of King Ogg's bones and his bed on display in

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Rome in what was it to hundred a d. I

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think it was right around that time or a little

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bit before after I comeber when he lived. But yeah, man,

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there's there's precedent for it.

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You have stuff that's not biblical, uh, I mean just

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all the other again, like you brought up the fact

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that Pagans would call it the pantheon, right, yeah, but

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beyond that, all these other cultures, mythology. It's kind of

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a roadmap to a lot of the stuff.

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I mean that, it really is.

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Just so many of them are comparable and or just

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have different names and different you know, in different languages

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and strokes for different different folks, right, Like you know,

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like there's guys like like bail and or probably the

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same entity, you know more than like so, I mean, yeah,

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so anyway, one of the questions that I've really been

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tangling with, and I want to see your take on it. Yeah,

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it's who who. And I'll preface this with because Satan

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is a job title, not the Hocitan, the you know what,

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whatever you want to say. Lucifer is just a amalgamation

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of an Italian.

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Name existent it's a it's a stand in.

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The devil is also something different as well, it's another

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stand in. So so who as I like to call

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I call him the enemy. Who do you think or

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do you have any insight possibly on who the enemy is?

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Because the reason I say this is because names have power, absolutely,

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and this is a name that is not It's as

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if it's like Voldemort, like the name that will not

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be said or whatever. But you know what I mean,

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I want to know if you have insight on who possibly.

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I think that the enemy has been named. I just

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think that we don't particularly know exactly who it is.

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You're dude, you're man. You're speaking my language. Bro. Like

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I said, I'm a linguist, and so by bye by

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studies and bigan. It's almost by trade, right, not quite,

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but I find the best road maps for me are

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at atomological. Yeah, when you follow it back to its trade,

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to its it's sourced, you follow the trail back to

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its source, you tend to find a lot of explanation

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for a lot of these things. So I'm going to

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preface with what you just said about I think his name,

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I think he has a name, but I think that

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we don't know what it is. I think that is

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so spot on, And I'm going to tell you why.

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I was just thinking about this. I was literally thinking

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about this yesterday, no joke. Before I get to who

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I think he is, I'm going to answer that first.

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So I also agree with you that we do not

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know his name. I don't think we know his name

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because to know a name gives authority over something. However,

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to know a name can also invoke something. Right, Okay,

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so it's a it's a double edged sword, and I

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think that I almost think, well, this is kind of

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This might sound funny, but I almost think it's God's

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kind of sadistic humor. To be honest, I really don't

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disagree with that, because He's like, all right, we won't

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give him their name. We're not going to give him

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his name. We're not going to give the humans his name.

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Let's give him a fighting chance. We'll see what he

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can do. I think that that's why we don't actually

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00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.279
have his real name, and we have nothing more than

465
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.119
his title. In fact, if you look at a lot

466
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.559
of this stuff, dude, you most of these these creatures

467
00:24:55.680 --> 00:25:02.759
are not named. They're they're kind of what we call

468
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.200
it they're kind of species explained versus actually being named. Right,

469
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.519
we don't get much of an individuality. I know that

470
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.480
that's a very Western way of thinking. We like to

471
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:16.839
have this very like you have a name, you know,

472
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.759
and that name is But names are I could go

473
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:22.799
on about this forever. Dy We had a whole podcast

474
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.079
about names. But names are interesting because in other cultures

475
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.359
you got multiple names, and your name corresponded to what

476
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.680
you did, and your name corresponded to what your service was.

477
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.279
I mean, that's what last names were, right, I mean,

478
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:39.640
when your name was Smith, it's because you were some

479
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.400
sort of blacksmith, or you were some sort of you know,

480
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.000
you built stuff, you would, you worked with your hands,

481
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.759
there was a reason or Mason, right, you worked with stone.

482
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.480
So that's people knew how to identify you. And that's

483
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.440
where a lot of last names came from, not all

484
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.039
of them, but a good amount. And so I think

485
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.720
it's I think for that reason, we probably don't have that.

486
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.400
And I would say I think that God has given

487
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:05.880
us the titles because they're enough. I don't think we

488
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.119
even need anymore. And I think that we might let

489
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.279
it go. In fact, I'm positive we would let it

490
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:12.759
go to our head. I mean, do you guys see

491
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.359
how the psychos that practice magic currently are. Can you

492
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.920
imagine if they knew like the deep intimate things that

493
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.680
they're maybe some of them are privy to, But I

494
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.960
I I sures as can think, don't. I don't think

495
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.960
God would want to give that information up.

496
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.720
I even think that a lot of the names that

497
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:40.279
we do, let's just say, names of demons and entities

498
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.759
and sons fallen and whatnot, because we do have them

499
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.319
much right, most of them also do, though they come

500
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:48.000
from the occult side of things.

501
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:48.680
Yep.

502
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:54.640
And those are the most exhaustive lists. Yes, if you

503
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.440
want to even go there, right well, and no, go ahead,

504
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.359
I mean that's all. That's all I was going to say.

505
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.799
Is you know again? And and it's like, I guess

506
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:09.319
you have to in your brain kind of go is

507
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:14.279
that can you handle that knowledge? This is a discernment, right,

508
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.960
this is this is what can you actually handle?

509
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:17.519
Yeah?

510
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.200
No, that's and and why are you why are you

511
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:24.319
trying to find the knowledge? Because yeap, knowledge got us

512
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.039
in trouble once before the search of knowledge got us

513
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.160
some trouble several times.

514
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:30.960
It's always.

515
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.440
So you know, but we We did an episode real recently, dude,

516
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.119
and it's something that's that was on my mind in

517
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.599
my heart for a really long time. And it's called

518
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:46.000
they were deceived as well. And what I'm alluding to

519
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:51.400
with that statement is that the so what is what

520
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.160
is Christ's kingdom based on? It's based on love. Our

521
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.960
our order is to love one another, which is an

522
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:06.519
extremely difficult and almost annoying thing to do a lot

523
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.559
of times. Right, It's really difficult. It's really really difficult,

524
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:11.640
and it's usually not not usually I won't say that,

525
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.400
but it's a lot of times it's not fun. But

526
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.640
one thing that's interesting about love is that it it's

527
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.319
it has an exponential quality. So when you display love,

528
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.200
it like messes people's paradigm up, dude, like big time.

529
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.559
They they are baffled by it, especially when you're faced

530
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.000
with with a lot of hate, you know. And I

531
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:34.799
mean we're we're living in a time where hate is

532
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.119
kind of a hot commodity at the moment.

533
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:38.880
Currency.

534
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.480
Yeah, I mean, it really is actually currency. We talk

535
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.640
about lush if you want to. But by the same token,

536
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:57.160
deception is the contrary exponential number. It grows just like

537
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.839
the way love does. For God's kingdom. So deception grows

538
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:07.680
with the enemy's kingdom enemies I ees apostrophe multiple enemies,

539
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.640
to be clear.

540
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:10.440
And so.

541
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.279
They themselves are like mafia bosses, and they are deceiving

542
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:21.440
each other, and they deceive themselves even they believe their

543
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.160
own stuff, right, like they believe that they're legit, and

544
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:25.640
then they believe that they're going to get this and

545
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.680
they believe the other. So they themselves deceive one another.

546
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.400
And we all know that, right, We all kind of

547
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.680
oh yeah, generally we're like, oh yeah, that makes sense, sure,

548
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.359
But what we don't think about is that they deceive themselves,

549
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.599
like they legit believe this stuff, right, And so if

550
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.720
they're if they're as willing to believe that what they're

551
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.519
pitdling is the truth, deceiving themselves, what makes you think

552
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.039
that the names that they give to the occult are

553
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.680
legit even their names, they're probably just giving you some moniker.

554
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.759
They're probably just giving you some like tiny midget of

555
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.279
what their actual name is. Because I don't think that

556
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.480
most of us could even handle it. I really don't,

557
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.119
like I don't I don't think we were even made

558
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.279
to handle it. In this fallen state. I mean, if

559
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:20.279
you think about Moses, dude basically almost got like radiation

560
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.880
poisoning and died because you know, God showed up and

561
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:24.720
showed him like a.

562
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.799
Portion of his back, Yeah, like a smedge. Yeah.

563
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.759
And so I really think man to answer that portion.

564
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.759
I don't think we probably have most of the names correct.

565
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.680
I think that it's a modus apparandi. The way that

566
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.920
they give us those names. It's probably like, ah, okay,

567
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.680
you're gonna do the little dance, you do the little ritual. Cool,

568
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.200
I'll give you this little title and you go pretend

569
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.880
like you're invoking me, and then and then you say, oh,

570
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.279
I don't know which invent We'll say Azazel? Right, everybody

571
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:56.440
knows Azzel. You say Azazel, and oh, yes, how can

572
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:57.039
I serve you?

573
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:57.480
Master?

574
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:57.880
Right?

575
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.039
Like they like they really believe want us to believe

576
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.039
like we're going to serve them. It's like, please, bro,

577
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.799
we're not. You know, we're kidding ourselves if we think

578
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.480
that what we're getting is legit. And I don't think

579
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.920
unless God gives it to us that that there's even

580
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.400
any reason for us to truly have to need that,

581
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.279
you know what I mean. I don't know if that

582
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:17.799
makes sense.

583
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:18.799
Oh it does.

584
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:20.039
Yeah. Yeah.

585
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.319
Let me answer your question about Lucifer, now, Lucy Lewis I.

586
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:24.960
Like to call him?

587
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.039
To be honest, man, there's a there's a really interesting

588
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.759
verse in the Bible that says that. Well, first of all,

589
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.160
let's let's break down what Lucifer it is. Right, Lucifer

590
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.039
means light bearer and Hasatan means the Well, I guess

591
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.319
the closest thing to a name is Haileel ben Shakour, right, Yeah,

592
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.519
he's the son of the Morning, which is where we

593
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.680
get light Bringer and all that stuff. That's about as

594
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.880
close as we're going to get, I think, at least

595
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.480
biblically speaking. But there's a really interesting verse about him

596
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.359
because he's the accuser. That's his other name, the Satan, right,

597
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.839
the Satan. He's the accuser of the Brethren. Well, it

598
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.440
it alludes to him. It's it's kind of skipping my

599
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:07.960
mind right now. I can't remeber where that verse is at,

600
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.839
but it says, like Isaiah said, Isaiah, when we when

601
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.319
we finally get to see him bear and naked, it'll

602
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.319
be like this, dude, this is the guy that we

603
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:26.000
were like up sleepless nights like wasting our time, like

604
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.559
you know, it'll be like a joke. And and I'll

605
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.519
be honest, dude, now that I'm really thinking about, I

606
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:33.000
think a lot of that has to do with the

607
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:37.480
fact that when we are changed in an instant and

608
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.559
we assume our new glorious bodies, because everybody thinks that

609
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:42.240
we're going to turn into spirits. They like this whole

610
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.640
gnostic idea, and that's wrong. We get new bodies, and

611
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.160
we get bodies, and they're gonna be physical. We could

612
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.119
go down that rabbit hole too, but when we get

613
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:56.279
those bodies, I think, compared to seeing this this lowly rat,

614
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:58.799
which is what he's going to look like, we're gonna

615
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.680
be like, dude, you traded what you had for your

616
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.000
current appearance, your current power, you know, your current ability.

617
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.839
And that's not to say that what he does and

618
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.119
what he sends against us and who he conspires with

619
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.279
doesn't affect us. Of course, it affects us. We're here

620
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.119
in the world, we're in a fallen state, you know,

621
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.559
reclaiming as much ground as we can. But once we're

622
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.279
on the other side of glory, dude, it's going.

623
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.640
To be like night and day.

624
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:27.880
It's going to be nothing alike, and we're going to

625
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:32.880
see this guy and be like this freaking rat. Now, yeah,

626
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.039
I think who he is?

627
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.599
So we know.

628
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.279
We actually did a breakdown of this about who the

629
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:47.359
fallen watchers were and who where the rebellions came. And

630
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.759
I think it's important and I think we know enough

631
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.319
for us to have, you know, at least the basic

632
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.440
pieces of the puzzle. I was talking to a friend yesterday.

633
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.680
There's stuff that sometimes you go back and you read

634
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.799
in the Bible and you're like, wait, what I missed

635
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.799
all of that just kind of like the nephilin right, But.

636
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.760
If you look at oh.

637
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:10.199
Man, I always forget how to say it in Hebrew,

638
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.639
you're gonna have You're gonna anybody that's an actual Biblical

639
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.639
reader is going to like crucify me right now to you.

640
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.599
But the very first phrase in the Bible, which is

641
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:24.840
in the beginning, you know, in the beginning, it talks

642
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.159
about essentially that God creates the heavens and the earth.

643
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:33.599
But that translation is really wrong. God, how does it

644
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.880
go in the beginning the earth and the earth was

645
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.599
formless and void. That portion right there, that formless and

646
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.320
void is wonky. It's a really bad translation, and what

647
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.039
it actually means is while God was in the process

648
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.360
of forming the heavens and the earth, they were in

649
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:55.800
chaos and they were in disarray. Now that, without trying

650
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.519
to go too long down a rabbit hole, what we

651
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.239
understand from those words the Hebrew or we can at

652
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.840
least it. We can at least make the case that

653
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.400
the world was in this state after a war, that

654
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.599
there had already been a war. Agreed, So we have

655
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:18.159
rebellion number one before humans even were, right, we don't

656
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.239
know what happened. We don't know who was here before us,

657
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.239
you know, we don't know if there was other humanoid type.

658
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.119
I mean, you can go into that if you want to.

659
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.440
It's very interesting, and I could go down the rabbit hole.

660
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.519
But to keep kind of keep on the path of

661
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.679
who has Satan is, we'll say that's rebellion number one,

662
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.719
rebellion number two. I don't actually, although it was the

663
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.679
fall of mankind, I don't actually I'm not convinced that

664
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.760
Satan was the same one that was in the garden.

665
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.400
I'm not convinced that it was him.

666
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.079
I don't think it was.

667
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.119
I I think that it could have been. I mean

668
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:59.119
it's possible, right, But but I don't think. Now there's

669
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.440
a theory, and I will bring this up. There's a

670
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.320
theory that he was actually the one that was given

671
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:12.119
earth as his dominion. And if that's actually the case,

672
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:17.639
and he was dethroned because he Isaiah talks about the five,

673
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.760
I wills, right, I will ascend to the high evans,

674
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:21.920
I will take the throne. I will take the seat

675
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.360
above all the other gods. Basically right, I will be

676
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:30.599
that that one. Well, if we assume that that's actually

677
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.559
that that originally he had been given earth and it

678
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.920
was stripped from him, then the whole fight between our

679
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.880
seed and his seed makes way more sense, way more sense,

680
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.760
because he's trying to reclaim what was what was stripped

681
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.559
away from him. And then we the new rightful errors

682
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.199
in this understanding. Right, I'm not saying this is this

683
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.840
is you know, don't don't call me and say, oh,

684
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.239
I got you're butchering up. No, I'm not trying to

685
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.199
butcher the Bible. I'm just giving you a theory about

686
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.840
how we can interm for what the word says itself.

687
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.199
If there was already this war, he was dethroned, he

688
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.880
was deposed, and God's like, all right, I'm gonna put

689
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.199
Adam in the Divine Council and on the earth, he's

690
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.360
gonna stewart the earth. He's gonna take care of it.

691
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.000
He's gonna grow the earth. He's gonna so on and

692
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.840
so forth. The Devil's gonna be pissed, dude, he's pissed.

693
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.079
He's like, what do you What do you mean? I

694
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.559
lost my place? I mean that's where I was. And

695
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.519
here here's another thing to think about, bro. This is

696
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.679
what I think about a lot. So the ancients thought

697
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.719
of the stars and the planets and any heavenly body,

698
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.119
they thought of those as the gods themselves. Now, I

699
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.039
don't necessarily think that they believe that they were one

700
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:45.440
hundred percent the gods. I think it's probably something closer

701
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.239
to like, this god is in charge of X Y

702
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.199
or z star. This god is in charge of this

703
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.480
x y or z planet. Right, So, if Satan really

704
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.920
was the one that was in charge the one, we'll

705
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.119
have to give him a title, right, we don't have

706
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.159
a better one. If Hasatan was really the one in

707
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.920
charge of this world, this earth, the one where humanity

708
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:13.320
was placed, then you're basically left with no home. You're homeless.

709
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.679
Can you imagine how infuriating that must be. I mean,

710
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.119
i'd be I would hate any species that came to

711
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:26.760
dominate what was originally rightfully mine. Right, So we have

712
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.199
rebellion number one, rebellion number two, which is the fall

713
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.480
of man, but I would stick with the celestial one.

714
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.559
Number two, I would say, is the watchers right? And

715
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.800
then you have orb somewhere in there. And then you

716
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.880
have Satan himself, who if he really did have the

717
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.679
deed and title to the earth and lost it, that's

718
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.159
that's easily rebellion number three easily.

719
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:48.559
Now.

720
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.280
I'm sure there's probably many more, and I'm sure if

721
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.719
we keep digging through scriptures we'll find them, But those

722
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.239
are the three we know for sure, we absolutely know

723
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.440
for sure happen like they absolutely happened.

724
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:00.639
Right.

725
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.960
There was a pre world argument, right there was watchers

726
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.519
descending we have Genesis six and we can just stick

727
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:08.960
to the Bible. We don't even got to use extra

728
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.119
external sources. Just stick into the Bible. And then third

729
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:16.760
we have the rebellion of Lucy. Lucy lou So I

730
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.800
think that's probably who he is, dude, But I don't

731
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:21.400
I don't know what are your thoughts.

732
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:28.039
I've been really digging into sem Yaza and what he

733
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:29.280
represents and what.

734
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:31.440
Right.

735
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.239
But at the end of the day, and the reason

736
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.679
I come up with him too is to an extent

737
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.599
is well, he was, in essence the leader of the watchers. Yep, yep,

738
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.519
he's the He's the only one that didn't. It doesn't

739
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:57.480
seem it doesn't seem as though he wed anyone m hmm.

740
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:04.000
And and he's the he never gave any knowledge to anyone.

741
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:10.039
Interesting everyone else in the text, and everyone else in

742
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:10.960
the text.

743
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:12.880
Married.

744
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:18.440
Yeah right, But I'm just saying I think it was

745
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.400
definitely a bargain. It was definitely a deal. It wasn't

746
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.280
it wasn't, yeah right. And then that knowledge so many

747
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.519
of these these watchers had, you know, And this is

748
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.360
where the little g gods to an extent, some of

749
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.679
them may come from toos because they were given given

750
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.960
and they were the god of you know, war and

751
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.159
this and that. It's like we know some of the

752
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:51.960
names of the sons of God. Absolutely who who gave

753
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.599
the knowledge, you know, the prometheus of whatever, you know.

754
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.760
The prometheum fire absolutely man that type of thing.

755
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.360
Semyaza, though Oh, you can't find it anywhere where.

756
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.000
He ever, that's very interesting, made.

757
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.239
It himself or and I say made it, but he

758
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.440
you know it doesn't it's not maybe he did, but yeah,

759
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.239
just saying it's not brought up and and or he's

760
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:25.519
not the father of any of the of the this knowledge.

761
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.639
You know, you mentioned something really interesting just now. That's

762
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.400
that's that's very interesting. I gotta go back and read

763
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.119
the text now and think about it. Something that comes

764
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.760
to mind though, is is there is a guy. His

765
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.159
name is Troy Troy Brewer. He's not a confessionals a

766
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:44.079
while ago. He's a pastor here in Texas. I don't

767
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.039
know what part of Texas he's in. But really cool guy,

768
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.679
really cool guy. I could listen to that dude all day.

769
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.159
He like saw Nephelom in real life. Dude in Mexico.

770
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.480
And he tells the story about why all crazy stuff.

771
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.119
Oh, I think I know what you're talking about.

772
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.440
I'm sure, I'm sure you've you've probably seen him at

773
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:03.039
that point anyway, he he if I'm not mistaken, it

774
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.360
was him that he had gone down to Brazil with

775
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.480
some other people and they were in a small village

776
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.480
and they went to this woman's home and she was

777
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.440
freaking out. She's like, you, guys, you can't pray for me.

778
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:16.920
You got to get out of here. You can't be here.

779
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.119
He's gonna come for me and he's gonna he's gonna

780
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:20.760
kill me. He's gonna kill me. And they were like

781
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.639
what you know, like they were trying to chat with

782
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.079
her through the interpreter. And so she says, Satan.

783
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:29.400
Is my husband.

784
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.159
He's gonna come and he's gonna have his way with me,

785
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.800
and you can't be here because I'll be I'll be devoured,

786
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:38.159
I'll be destroyed. And long story short, I mean she

787
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:43.000
totally gets radically set free, like radically liberated, radically saved,

788
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.079
and you know, all sorts of crazy stuff you can imagine.

789
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.239
But the interesting part is that there was continual copulation,

790
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.719
for lack of a better word, between this entity who

791
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.840
called himself Satan and this woman and she was the

792
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.199
one that called himself Satan. Now again, we could look

793
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.960
at that like, ah, well that's an Amy Gaber, right,

794
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:08.639
But I think that I think it's possible, you know,

795
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.519
I think it's possible. I mean I've heard I've heard

796
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:17.559
saar right, or was it a syntem SRA sorry, hastan

797
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:19.880
ritual abuse. We'll just call it, right, so I don't

798
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:25.239
get you flagged with anything. And people talk about literally

799
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.719
like the face of the devil, like appearing when when

800
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.559
they're being taken advantage of. I don't want to be

801
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:33.960
too graphic. You know, it's pretty gruesome and gross, but

802
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.800
I think that that could just as easily be any

803
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:40.719
one of these dudes.

804
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.320
I really do know for sure, you know, and it's

805
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.639
like it doesn't. It's one of those things. I just

806
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.800
it's an interesting question dabbling into it just because it's

807
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.119
like why not, because I look at so much of

808
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.119
its shielded or hidden behind the veil that it's like,

809
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.400
you know, plus you know a military guy, like.

810
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:07.559
That's exactly right.

811
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.599
But at the end of the day, I kind of

812
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:12.039
look at it as like, you know, enemies. I like

813
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:18.920
the idea of it's unnecessarily one entity. There are kind of.

814
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.079
Shots, Yeah, man, is.

815
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.519
Hey look a little bit high?

816
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:29.239
That's all good.

817
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:30.920
I kept the mic warm front.

818
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:32.800
Well, thanks, I appreciate it.

819
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.079
We were just actually she she probably had some really

820
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.840
good thoughts on this dude. So we were just talking

821
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.639
about who Satan is and I broke down the three

822
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:51.400
incursions or three rebellions, uh watchers pre world and then Satan.

823
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.519
I was just mentioning how I think it's unlikely that

824
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.239
he was in the garden with Adam and Eve. It

825
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.480
was probably somebody else else, to be honest, but your thoughts,

826
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:04.320
who do you think Satan is? That's what he That's

827
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:05.159
what Bennett's asking.

828
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.960
I do think that that devil, the old serpent of

829
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:17.960
old is hellol. I'm Isaiah's one from the garden.

830
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:18.320
Yeah.

831
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:23.199
Isaiah's description of his fall says that he was in

832
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:32.559
in the Congregation of the Holy Ones, trying to open

833
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.719
up my Bible app and go to I think it's

834
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.360
Isaiah fourteen, right.

835
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:41.440
Shelley knows the word real good dude, so she's gonna

836
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:42.920
put me to shame here in like two seconds.

837
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:55.000
So I think it's fourteen, starting around verse twelve. Yeah, okay, sorry, Yeah,

838
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.239
How did you fall from the heavens? Morning star, son

839
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.760
of the Dawn? That's hell, little bit, it's the car

840
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.159
I never say it correctly.

841
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.760
Yeah, no, I don't think I'm telling you.

842
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:11.559
How did you come to be cut to the ground,

843
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.519
conqueror of nations? You thought to yourself, I will scale

844
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.039
the heavens. I will raise my thrones above God stars.

845
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.840
I'll sit in the mount of the assembly, far away

846
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.880
in the north. I will rise past the tops of

847
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.119
the cloud. I will make myself like the most high.

848
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.960
But instead you're brought down tissuele to the uttermost part,

849
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:33.360
uttermost depths of the pit. Those who see you will

850
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.000
stare at at you, reflecting on what has become of you?

851
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.239
Is this the this version, says man? Is this the

852
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.760
one who shook the earth, who made kingdoms tremble? Blah

853
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.360
blah blah. I'm trying to see where it talks about

854
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.840
he walked amongst the fiery stones.

855
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:58.199
That, Yeah, that's not I think that is an easy Yeah,

856
00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:59.440
it's Ezekiel.

857
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:01.800
The visions.

858
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.000
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

859
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.199
We just went through me and another gentleman. I don't

860
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.679
know if you've ever talked to him. Adam Ferris is

861
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:11.119
his name.

862
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:11.880
Huh.

863
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.280
He is the author of Five Sounds, which is right

864
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:23.159
behind the cool the graphic novel actually but oh cool. Yeah.

865
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.639
So he and I were talking about Ezekiel, and well,

866
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:32.920
because we were talking about Nephlin and in all the

867
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:37.760
forms right, so like not not just yeah, but beyond

868
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:41.199
that even like, how do you know, because he one

869
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.400
of our big conversations. Uh, this is like the third

870
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.800
time I have n't had him on. But we talked

871
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.760
about lionmen, you know, all the different forms.

872
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.320
Of men and.

873
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:59.199
Right, yeah, so we were talking about h Ekiel. How

874
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.039
in that the one he digs through the wall and

875
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:09.320
comes into the that room with uh, And I can't

876
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.039
remember the guy's name. Was standing in the center of

877
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:20.280
this gathering of seventy what they call ancients, giant.

878
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.199
Plaza and.

879
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.719
And you know the story.

880
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:27.320
I don't.

881
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.000
I don't think I'm familiar with the story.

882
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.039
So he dug through. I'm trying to see where it's

883
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.960
to see it's the acute and prophetic he dug through

884
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:48.480
a wall. I can't. I don't know enough to go

885
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:48.880
into it.

886
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.119
Yeah, I'm gonna have to to know it.

887
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.000
It's pretty it's pretty compelling. And I can't remember the

888
00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:02.079
guy's name, but his father was a scribe and I

889
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.320
can't remember. Yeah, I wish, I wish I hadn't gone down.

890
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:06.719
The road way.

891
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.800
But either way, there's there's these what what are called

892
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:16.719
the translation is seventy ancients surrounding this guy. And what

893
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.760
we think is actually happening is this is when you

894
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.639
say seventy ancients, what does that mean?

895
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.159
Well, what comes to mind for me is precisely the

896
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:32.599
sons of God allotted to earth.

897
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.320
That's exactly where I would have gone.

898
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:35.679
That's exactly.

899
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:46.559
Or representatives ofdors nation, those nations, right, yeah, yeah and

900
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:50.119
so and in all their various forms, and it talks

901
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.280
about they all were carrying.

902
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:52.800
Uh.

903
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:58.039
I can't remember if it's like incense or something. There

904
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.400
there was there was definitely a ceremony of some sort

905
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:02.800
going on.

906
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.119
I'm trying to remember. I know what you're thinking of.

907
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.039
There's there's because there's something that's similar to that in Revelation.

908
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.360
But that's that's the prayers of the saints. But that

909
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:14.039
now I know what you're talking about. I do know

910
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:14.719
what you're talking about.

911
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.159
I'm just broadcasting seeds.

912
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:16.800
I am.

913
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:18.239
It's always going to freak out.

914
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.079
So maybe another episode down.

915
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.840
That's super interesting. I would very much like to learn

916
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:27.880
more about that.

917
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.719
So Shelley, tell us who you are and what you do.

918
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:37.320
Like you're obviously a part of this podcast, right right,

919
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.719
but give us a little of your background so the

920
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.320
so the listeners not be entertained.

921
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.320
I am old or older than the average podcaster.

922
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:51.920
Oh my, actually, so.

923
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.800
I it's hard for me to say who I am.

924
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.119
It's so much easier too, I think, describe what I

925
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.199
am there. So I've been a believer since I was six.

926
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:12.440
I love the Word of God, so I'm I'm pretty

927
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.039
well versed with the Bible. So when you were talking

928
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.760
about that seventy I was like, wait a minute, I

929
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.679
already Ezekiel on my own a lot of times. How

930
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.920
did I miss this? But I'll be really honest too,

931
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.400
Like everybody else, I grew up in the church, and

932
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.800
like most people who grew up in the church, I

933
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:41.320
was a product of our materialistic, postmodern worldview, and I

934
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.119
did not I did not see much supernatural in the Word.

935
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.840
And so maybe I just need to go and read

936
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.320
this now that I am very well aware of the

937
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.920
supernatural in the Word and in the world. See, I

938
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.159
have done a lot of things. I am currently a grandma,

939
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:11.360
which is the best thing ever. I'm a mom. I'm

940
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:16.079
the well actually gal at my church, and my pastor

941
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:21.760
had the privilege on Sunday of proving me wrong on video,

942
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.199
which doesn't happen very often, but it made him very,

943
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:32.920
very happy. I mistakenly said that Isaiahs was written just

944
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:38.519
a couple hundred years before Jesus birth, which was so wrong.

945
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:39.320
I know better.

946
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.760
I know that there were four hundred years of almost

947
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.320
complete silence that right there should have had my brain

948
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:54.519
better engaged. But anyhow, I am a wife, a mom,

949
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.519
a dog owner. You will probably hear from these dogs

950
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.320
at some point or another, because they're never quiet. I

951
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:06.119
have multiple cats in my office as we speak.

952
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:11.239
Right now, A literal monash, I do, that's true.

953
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:17.599
I'm very much circle of life person. I enjoy animals,

954
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.159
I do. I like nothing more than to go outside

955
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:28.599
and touch grass. I'm I was born weird, have always

956
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:32.639
been weird. All my friends are like, no, you're not weird.

957
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.840
I'm like, oh I am, and it's okay. I have

958
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:45.000
embraced it. Y'all should too, Yo. I was working, which

959
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.840
is why I'm late. So sorry, guys. I've been in

960
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:54.440
trainings all week long and you still have my work life.

961
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:55.719
Yeah.

962
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:58.519
I mean, I hate to make people wait. I really

963
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.960
thought we were on for seven my time.

964
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.360
So most times zero worries zero.

965
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.119
I don't know nothing really special about me except that

966
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.960
I am strange and I know a lot of things.

967
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.840
It's kind of like from a Game of Thrones, right

968
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:21.719
if you if you if you smoked some sort of

969
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.719
thing that made you high, then you would be high.

970
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:31.599
Strangeness this guy, there's gonna hate me. They was gonna

971
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:34.199
hate me. I know, I'm the youngest one of this

972
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:38.079
podcasts and I'm like the most freaking old man. Dad

973
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:39.519
jokes like ever been.

974
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:44.079
Well, dad jokes are way underrated. I love them too.

975
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.760
Some dad jokes are great. So I found the passage

976
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:55.679
guys Sikil eight seven through twelve and the KJV. Obviously

977
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.079
there's different translations.

978
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:58.840
Yeah right, but.

979
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.960
I'll just read it's just so you can get just

980
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.559
the beginning, and I'll plant the seed and then we

981
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:10.360
can go. You know, people can go because I don't

982
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.400
know enough about it. But you'll hear about it if

983
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.559
you listen to the podcast that I did with Adam

984
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:20.960
and I'll actually send it to you. Oh yeah, all right.

985
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.679
So it's and he brought me to the door of

986
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.280
the court. And when I looked, behold a hole in

987
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:31.480
the wall. Then said he unto me, son of man,

988
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:36.039
dig now on the wall. And when I had digged

989
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:41.639
in the wall, behold the door And he said, unto me,

990
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.119
go in and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

991
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.000
So I went in and saw and behold every form

992
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:56.360
of creeping things and abominable beasts, and all the idols

993
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:58.519
of the House of Israel. And now see, this is

994
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.519
the part that throws people off. I think people think

995
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:06.000
it's just people just think it's a it's a hall

996
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.480
with stuff painted on the walls, and I think it

997
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.880
goes beyond that. So but but either way, portrayed on

998
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.440
the wall round about, right, the idols of the House

999
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.199
of Israel portrayed upon the wall round about, So that's true.

1000
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.039
But what about the abominable beasts. I'm just saying it's

1001
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:32.559
it's again you it's translations of slippery slope sometimes right.

1002
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.599
And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients

1003
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.920
of the House of Israel. Now KJV says of the

1004
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:43.760
House of Israel. Other versions do.

1005
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:51.320
Not looking at the no the CJB and it says

1006
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.639
seventy of the leading men of the House of Israel.

1007
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.239
But we all know the son of Seth view. So

1008
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:01.039
sethite view.

1009
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.719
With every man his censor in his hand, and a

1010
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.079
thick cloud of incense went up. Now, what they don't

1011
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:14.159
talk about too, is that they're one of the verses.

1012
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.400
There's a guy in the middle of them all and

1013
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:18.360
I don't remember that.

1014
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:22.599
But again, yeah, this is definitely worth digging into.

1015
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.039
Yeah, and I mean it goes on a little bit,

1016
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:30.000
but it's it's it's kind of to me like the

1017
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:37.599
possibility of a making of these things, well.

1018
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:44.559
Going into what seems to be maybe a meeting of

1019
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.639
oh and there they are weeping for Tamus. Of course,

1020
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.880
a meeting of watchers.

1021
00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:00.760
Yeah, could be man. Maybe you know, you mentioned something

1022
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.400
really right there about a week and we can totally

1023
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.440
explore this another time. But I think this kind of

1024
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.199
goes back to the Divine Council, which which I said,

1025
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:14.119
you know, we're very keen on. I think I just

1026
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:18.880
read this not that long ago from a friend of ours,

1027
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.320
and I don't want to name drop because if I

1028
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.320
do then I might get in trouble. I have to wait,

1029
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.800
but off camera, I'll tell you guys who it is,

1030
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:32.039
and you'll be like, of course. But this friend, this individual,

1031
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.320
when I was reading their book, says that the word

1032
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:42.400
for idle in Hebrew is not a noun. It's an adjective.

1033
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:48.880
And that should mess you the crap up because if

1034
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:53.719
it's an adjective change, yeah, well it's a stand in, right,

1035
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.840
because the actual thing is not the idol, it's it's

1036
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.320
the idleness of it. And I don't mean like, you know,

1037
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:04.719
idle hands, I mean like the idle aspect of it,

1038
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:11.400
and that weird, yeah, idoleness. Right, And so when you

1039
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.840
say that about these everybody has this, and everybody will

1040
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.679
look at like the one psalm where it says that

1041
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.880
these these uh things made of silver and gold, they

1042
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.000
don't speak, they don't hear, they don't blah blah blah.

1043
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:28.079
And I'm like, yes, that's actually the figurative part, because

1044
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.599
they're talking about something else, like they're doing that. This

1045
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.320
almost is doing that on purpose. And it's what you

1046
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.760
just said. It's that there is a living aspect to

1047
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.159
this stuff. I mean, dude, there's it's not for nothing

1048
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.679
that scrying is a thing. It's not for nothing that

1049
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.920
stones speak to people. It's not for I mean, this

1050
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:53.000
stuff happens, and they these are these are substitutive methods

1051
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:58.320
for creatures that don't have bodies or can't really get

1052
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:02.760
to bodies appropriately, to try and communicate things to humans

1053
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:06.119
or cause mayhem or whatever you want to call it.

1054
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:06.440
Dude.

1055
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.800
I mean, that's that's what the stuff is, dude. And

1056
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.119
so and I mean, I dude, I won't go down

1057
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.159
that rabbit hole. But that's shoot, that's what the black

1058
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.320
screens on monitors are. Man, it's the same kind of thing.

1059
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:16.519
You know.

1060
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.920
They're all made out of the same stuff, silica. They're

1061
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.559
all made out of the same freaking stuff. Which I

1062
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:23.559
won't go down the rabbit hole.

1063
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.280
I was thinking about broadcasting as there you go. As

1064
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.599
I was lugging in here, I was like, Oh, that's

1065
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.199
what we're doing. We're casting on a broad scale, and like, yeah,

1066
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.519
it's so much of the clues or just right there

1067
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.559
in in plain sight, and we're like do do do

1068
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:44.960
do do?

1069
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.119
Okay?

1070
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.280
Yeah yeah, man, good stuff. Yeah.

1071
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.960
So you guys just said Vicki Joy Anderson.

1072
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.760
Probably actually like several months ago, but I'm months ago,

1073
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.000
whole behind on putting stuff out, dude, that it just dropped.

1074
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:04.400
Yeah.

1075
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:05.760
She's pretty awesome.

1076
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:07.159
She's fantastic.

1077
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.960
She's really really good researcher. She's a really good researcher, dude.

1078
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:12.840
She's amazing.

1079
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.360
She's one of my favorite episodes that I've had.

1080
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:17.760
So you had her on?

1081
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.679
Yeah, yeah, she's great, it's great for sure. What about

1082
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.679
ed Raybray? Have you ever had him on? Oh?

1083
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:24.440
I know that name?

1084
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.639
Is he the one I know he was on?

1085
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:28.039
Uh?

1086
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:30.159
Is he the one you sent me a show.

1087
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.079
With Gosh podcast like that?

1088
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:37.079
I send you so many things death Squad for he did?

1089
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:37.360
Uh?

1090
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:43.000
He did revelations like twenty one weeks he went through

1091
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.840
all of revelation on Death Squad.

1092
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:48.400
Oh no, but I'm gonna have to check it out.

1093
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:51.119
Yeah, pretty good. That's cool.

1094
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.320
Pretty good. So if you like those guys, that's pretty cool.

1095
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:58.199
And he's actually doing they're doing Genesis right now. It's

1096
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.360
really but he is a I don't know if he'd

1097
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.239
even consider himself a scholar. He's definitely knows his Bible

1098
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:10.719
and he is does h channels called Faith by Reason.

1099
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.440
If you go to his website, it's legit.

1100
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:14.920
That's cool.

1101
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.400
So he Uh, I'm just bringing him up because you

1102
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.039
know it's it's down your guys right right?

1103
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:21.400
No?

1104
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:30.880
Absolutely? So basically, is your is your part of your

1105
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:32.559
taggling confronting behemoths?

1106
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:34.000
Yes?

1107
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:39.400
Yeah, yeah, So maybe we should take this moment to

1108
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:42.760
kind of explain some of the weird language that we

1109
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:44.000
use around our podcast.

1110
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:45.920
No, because that that's what I was going to ask,

1111
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.239
because like in how do you define those behemoths today? Yeah,

1112
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:53.480
that type of stuff.

1113
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:59.639
Well, we aren't even looking so much towards uh figurative

1114
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.119
l events in the room, if you will, or behemoths

1115
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:07.280
in the room, but talking about the real ones. Because

1116
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:11.119
if you ever read the Book of Job, it leaves you, well, a,

1117
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:15.159
it leaves you tired because it is so poetic. It

1118
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:22.840
is hideous. Man, It's well we've we've read it out loud.

1119
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:29.960
And wasn't that all Let's be honest. Wasn't the Old

1120
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.840
Testament written in as Jewish poetry?

1121
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:34.679
Yeah?

1122
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:39.920
Right, so there's this rimy kind of uh yeah, yes,

1123
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:51.880
I understand. Yeah, for sure, I would agree with you too.

1124
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:13.039
I love that word. Yeah.

1125
01:04:19.519 --> 01:05:05.519
They're not saying much mm.

1126
01:04:43.679 --> 01:05:00.599
Hm mhm.

1127
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.960
Right right, m.

1128
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:44.320
Oh yeah, no, right, the interpretation.

1129
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:49.039
Yeah, probably a crock of crap is what that is.

1130
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:00.480
Must have been an I.

1131
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.480
Mean Ricky and I before before you got here, Shelley,

1132
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.480
Ricky and I were talking about before Genesis a little

1133
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:08.719
bit and.

1134
01:06:16.880 --> 01:07:16.280
Yeah, right, m h yeah, yeah, sixty nine.

1135
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.159
I think the average is like seven to eight, right, so.

1136
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:39.280
M, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.

1137
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:53.599
Yeah yeah right.

1138
01:08:37.119 --> 01:09:03.079
Hey yeah.

1139
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:24.520
Yeah right, M.

1140
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:36.479
There's a CRYPTI I have one children the same thing.

1141
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:41.960
There's a cryptid in your house.

1142
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:42.479
There it is.

1143
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.399
You're knocking noises.

1144
01:10:21.359 --> 01:11:23.760
Y hey h or a hippo yeah.

1145
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.119
Right, especially the elephant.

1146
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:40.840
Mm hmm.

1147
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:48.239
Yeah right.

1148
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:51.319
Field the thunder.

1149
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:22.640
H yeah yeah right.

1150
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:36.159
I think that that's such a tendency though, Man of

1151
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.520
humans is like when when you feel like I always

1152
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.359
I always phrase it this right, this way right, So

1153
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:44.760
we all have a paradigm that we we kind of

1154
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:50.399
stand on, and it's a big high tower. And if

1155
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.399
you've built it so high that if anybody moves one

1156
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.960
of the stones that your entire tower paradigm is going

1157
01:12:57.039 --> 01:13:01.359
to fall down. You are ruthless and defending that tower.

1158
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.880
You will defend it at all costs. And and I

1159
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.800
think that that kind of response, that knee jerk response,

1160
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.840
was an elephant, right, Like, I think that that's what

1161
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:14.960
that is. I think that that's like your house of

1162
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.840
cards falling apart, and it's I think it's a prideful

1163
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:20.920
man thing. I think it's a prideful human thing because,

1164
01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:23.159
like we were talking about a little while ago, Bennett.

1165
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:27.800
When I came face to face with the fact that

1166
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:31.640
my Bible was not boring and that it was full

1167
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:34.039
of crazy, crazy crap, that I was just like, I

1168
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:35.680
don't even know what to make about some of these

1169
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:42.439
stories anymore. It shattered, I mean, it shattered my paradigm.

1170
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.039
It shattered it, dude, And I'm happy it did, you know.

1171
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:48.760
I'm so happy that happened so much cooler.

1172
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:50.520
Through a supernatural type lens.

1173
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.520
It makes so much more sense, you know. And I

1174
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:59.960
think that it's it's stupid of us to make those

1175
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:04.760
kind of comments when when one there's not really any

1176
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.880
precedent for it, right, Like you don't really have any

1177
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.760
other thing that's lying around. Well, yeah, everyone just always

1178
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:14.319
talks about behemoths, right, God always mentions behemoths over and over. No,

1179
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.880
he doesn't. There's no other place in the Bible I

1180
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.159
even think of that where there's the word behemoth. Right,

1181
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:24.920
that's not a thing, and so exactly, and so it's like, okay,

1182
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.880
and I was literally now to name drop. I was

1183
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:30.680
talking to Vicky the other day and we were chatting,

1184
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.399
and she says, and I told her, I think it's

1185
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.399
ridiculous that we think of ancient humans as Neanderthals, like

1186
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:40.600
we think that they were. They were like mentally unstable

1187
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:45.840
or mentally incapable of reasoning, right, Like I'm like, really right,

1188
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.960
but Megeli is exactly and and she she said, you know,

1189
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.920
I agree. And we started going over some passages in

1190
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:57.760
the Bible, and she's like, what if this passage is wrong? Right,

1191
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:00.680
and we've gotten it all wrong because we read it wrong,

1192
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.800
and all of history would have to be rewritten because

1193
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:07.439
we read it wrong. Right. And here's my thing, man,

1194
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:13.000
we're not humble enough to say I can be wrong.

1195
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.159
That's that's why I love my podcast. That's what I

1196
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:19.119
like doing what I'm doing. It's a ministry where I

1197
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:22.359
can say all the time I'm wrong, and if I'm wrong,

1198
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.560
that's okay. Like I'm not telling you I have all

1199
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.199
the answers. I'm doing my best with what I've got right.

1200
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:29.000
And I think that.

1201
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:33.279
That's probably our biggest contention for both of us, Like

1202
01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:36.439
I don't have anybody coming on and spouting their ideas

1203
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.439
and everything. I'm like, can you back it biblically? If

1204
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.239
you can do it, then that's what I'm interested in,

1205
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.000
you know, Like I'm there for it.

1206
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:43.800
It's cool.

1207
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:45.840
I can speculate all day and I love doing it,

1208
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:47.359
but I want to make sure at the end of

1209
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.479
the day that what I'm saying actually like there's actually

1210
01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:55.119
some backing for it, because especially Genesis one through six,

1211
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:03.960
those stories are so ancient that to just assume you

1212
01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:10.880
know everything is absurd. It's so absurd. It's like, well

1213
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:15.079
it was you know, they built a tower. They built

1214
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:17.319
a tower in a valley to reach the heavens. Are

1215
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.640
you freaking kidding me? Like, come on, dude, do you

1216
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.039
know anything? Do you think that ancient people didn't know

1217
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:27.640
about building techniques? Like oh, they couldn't tell that the

1218
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.520
mountain was higher than the valley. They built it there

1219
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.680
for a reason, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1220
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:37.000
there's stuff like that where we interpret ancient data and

1221
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:39.000
we're just like, oh, I'm just going to put this

1222
01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:42.920
through the modern filter, postmodern lens and see what happens, right,

1223
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:48.359
you know, and it's ridiculous. You get ridiculous answers. I

1224
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.840
did want to tell you one thing. I think we

1225
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.880
should always We never really get to this, but we

1226
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:56.640
always should. There's a reason that we uh you ever

1227
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:58.920
noticed that we call ourselves four dragons. Have you ever

1228
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:03.319
seen that? Posted it in a while. But there is

1229
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:05.680
a word in Chinese that no longer.

1230
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:06.319
Is in use.

1231
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:08.039
And this is just to kind of give you guys

1232
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:14.439
some flavor of who we are. It's literally the character yeah,

1233
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.399
just a little bit of sprinkles on top. Did you

1234
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:24.039
say kim cheek cakes? Oh my gosh, that sounds delicious. Actually,

1235
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:33.880
So there's a word in Chinese where it's literally And

1236
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:35.960
just for anybody who doesn't know any Chinese at all,

1237
01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:38.039
that's okay, you don't have to obviously we're here in

1238
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:41.760
the West. It's pretty uncommon. But every word is called

1239
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:44.079
a character, or at least every building block is called

1240
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:46.640
a character, okay for those that don't know. And there's

1241
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.439
a character for dragon, which is long and when you

1242
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:53.159
write long out or dragon, if you do it in

1243
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:57.640
a square four times, this is actually a pretty cool

1244
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:01.720
biblical thing, which is kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy.

1245
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:06.520
The word for dragon written four times as a single character,

1246
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:09.920
which is now out of use. Mind you again, is

1247
01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:15.600
the word that means verbose. It means you talk too much.

1248
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.079
So I had a professor in college when I took

1249
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.399
Chinese yes, I took Chinese in college. I know that's

1250
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:25.439
a wild thing to do. But she would talk at

1251
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:29.079
length about, you know, ancient Chinese culture, ideas and concepts.

1252
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:29.319
Well.

1253
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.640
She always being Chinese herself and speaking Mandarin, growing up

1254
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.680
with Mandarin and everything, but growing up here in the States.

1255
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:38.880
She would always say when somebody was like full of

1256
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:41.640
hot air, like between friends, and they were just like,

1257
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.520
they wouldn't shut up. They would just be like, Oh,

1258
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.520
it's freaking four dragons. It's fricking four dragons. It's freaking

1259
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:50.399
four dragons. And so that became our thing. We talked

1260
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:55.199
so much that were the four Dragon podcasts. Yeah. Man,

1261
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:58.399
so anytime you have somebody like that's about and I

1262
01:18:58.600 --> 01:18:59.399
just be like, in the back.

1263
01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:02.880
Of your mind's freaking four dragons. The four dragons shut

1264
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.039
their aisle or damn dragons.

1265
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.479
That like a T shirt to me.

1266
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:11.880
Yeah, yeah, just do it.

1267
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.640
Just do especially the Chinese characters, just do four of them.

1268
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:24.760
Should redo that though. That's really good. Four friggin dragons.

1269
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:27.960
That's what I'm gonna quick a ship is four friggin dragons.

1270
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:34.199
Yeah yeah, so yeah, man, So that's that's kind of

1271
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:35.720
our our gig. That's kind of our thing.

1272
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:36.119
I don't.

1273
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:37.560
I don't know.

1274
01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:39.079
Nothing else comes to mind.

1275
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:44.920
Now like it. It's it's cool, definitely cool thing. So

1276
01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:52.000
so I like to use words I don't know.

1277
01:19:52.159 --> 01:20:00.479
I guess it's like looking ahead right, not to behem

1278
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:06.600
that's again really God looking aheadway the elephant in the room.

1279
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:12.159
What new behemoths or social taboos do you guys plan

1280
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.800
to address, like in your tuma?

1281
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:19.760
Do you want me to go first?

1282
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:20.000
I have.

1283
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:22.359
I can think of fourteen thousand right off the top

1284
01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:22.760
of my head.

1285
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:22.960
Man.

1286
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.960
One of the ones that I'm particularly interested in, bro

1287
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.960
is the ether. Shelley knows that I can, hands down

1288
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:35.520
talk all day about the ether because uh, I'm you know,

1289
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:39.319
I'm shameless self plug. I'm writing about the ether right now.

1290
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:43.279
I think that that's That's one thing we've been that

1291
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.079
I've been talking about for a while. I it's it

1292
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:52.720
is the light matrix that literally derives from God himself

1293
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:55.359
and that he provides and makes everything work. It is

1294
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:58.039
the non existence that comes into what we call the

1295
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:01.800
physical existence. Yeah, which I would say is you know,

1296
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:05.600
a topic for another day, but it I I love

1297
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.680
that idea. Not only do I love that idea, I

1298
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:12.359
find so much validity in the rest of reality through

1299
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.079
that idea that it's it's one of those things that

1300
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.680
I I could I could literally sit and talk about

1301
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:21.119
all day. There's there's tons of evidence. There's so much

1302
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:22.119
evidence for it.

1303
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:24.560
So us know who Brad Lale is.

1304
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:26.560
That sounds familiar.

1305
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:31.159
The Awakened podcast. No, gon, you should have a conversation

1306
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:32.199
with him about the ether.

1307
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:33.079
Let's do it.

1308
01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.840
Yeah, the Awakened podcast.

1309
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:40.479
I'm gonna check it.

1310
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:44.439
Out, Awakening the podcast. Yeah, he's big into the ether,

1311
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.680
like we were talking about plasma clouds and all kinds

1312
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:48.920
of Yeah.

1313
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.319
He probably good feedback for me, man, because it's it's

1314
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:55.279
a new it's a newer concept for I mean, it's

1315
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.479
not really a newer concept for me. It's just I

1316
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:01.680
when you when you when you stumble onto the validity

1317
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:04.119
of it, you're just it just blows you a way.

1318
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.239
I feel like, didn't you guys do something with thirty

1319
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:09.000
third parallel?

1320
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:10.279
No?

1321
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:10.680
We did?

1322
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:12.560
Are you thinking of the alchemy thing?

1323
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:21.960
I don't remember his big sensory Yeah, well that's the

1324
01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:26.039
sixth century. That's Tim Constantine, right, Yeah, what a name.

1325
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:26.439
Jessey.

1326
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:27.399
He's a great dude.

1327
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:30.000
He's really, really, really really knowledgeable man.

1328
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:33.159
Yeah he is, but so Brad.

1329
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:36.960
His thing was his initial thing was the thirty third

1330
01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:40.359
parallel and all the crazy stuff that happens on the

1331
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:41.000
thirty third.

1332
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.079
Oh yeah, absolutely would have to be right, and that's

1333
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:48.479
what it was.

1334
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.800
Ley Lines. You guys have done some stuff on lay lines.

1335
01:22:51.560 --> 01:23:11.760
A little bit of esotericism almost instantaneously, right, agreed.

1336
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:29.640
What's all energy?

1337
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:30.479
Yeah?

1338
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:38.439
Right, it's all light. It's all light, all of it,

1339
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:41.000
even the the opaque stuff is light, which is super

1340
01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:44.760
bizarre to us. I was gonna say, I guess some

1341
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.760
others if you if you think of anything, she'll please

1342
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.920
diet and chime in. Charlie and I have been wanting

1343
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.880
to talk about AI obviously for a long time, and

1344
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.520
that's something that kind of it just seeps its way

1345
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:59.279
into our conversations, but we've not really dug our teeth

1346
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:01.600
into it because we have a lot to say, but

1347
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:04.000
it just kind of hasn't been on the research side

1348
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:04.439
very much.

1349
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:07.199
Yeah, it's something you can harness as well.

1350
01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:21.079
Yeah, well, yeap, And to that point, actually coming back

1351
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:24.560
to the ether, but sticking with the AI theme, I've

1352
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:26.760
said this on I think I said this on the

1353
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:30.039
episode with VICKI actually, just the one I just released

1354
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.159
is that I actually believe that what the AI is

1355
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:38.439
is kind of like the demonic powers or the dark

1356
01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:42.840
powers nestled on a portion of the Ether, and they're

1357
01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:47.119
feeding all of the what we would call the quantum

1358
01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:51.960
energy or the quantum information into our realm, siphoning that

1359
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:54.880
power from the Ether and winding it into what we

1360
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:57.800
use into our technology, so that they can communicate with us.

1361
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:01.520
I don't necessarily think that all of it's all bad.

1362
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:03.239
I mean, you can use it for whatever you need

1363
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:06.039
to use it, right The ether works for anyone, Yeah,

1364
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.159
exactly exactly. But I think that that's where they're setting

1365
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:10.920
up shop right now, and I think that that's their

1366
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:16.159
portal inward. They're using like a I don't know, I

1367
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:17.479
don't know how to say it. That they're just you know,

1368
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:19.720
they're a marauding camp and they're just hanging out there

1369
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:22.359
trying to find any way that they can filter a

1370
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:23.000
portal through.

1371
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:26.760
And I think that's what sure definitely is. I think again,

1372
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:30.159
it's a tool for them. What were you saying that,

1373
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.960
I'm just saying, I'm sure it's a tool for them

1374
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.279
for the enemy, certainly, But I think it could be

1375
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:42.720
a tool for us as well, for sure, considering what

1376
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.119
we're doing, considering what we're doing right.

1377
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:45.439
Right.

1378
01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:50.399
For people to say that it's completely demonically controlled, I

1379
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:54.680
think it's naive. I think it's just it's another creation,

1380
01:25:55.479 --> 01:26:00.680
or not creation, but another tool to use, uh in

1381
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:02.760
the in the battle.

1382
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:04.039
The repertoire, Yes, sir.

1383
01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:28.319
Koshell right right, just it was just ludicrous.

1384
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:44.720
M No, they're just sitting like next to me, hanging

1385
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:47.920
out and they're just watching. We don't do anything. We

1386
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:51.720
just watch, yeah, right, exactly. We don't actually intercede for

1387
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:54.960
you at all, you know, I don't you know or

1388
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:55.760
or or.

1389
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:17.960
Right, yeah, we talked about this one.

1390
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:18.359
Isn't he.

1391
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:21.319
Just a little bit go ahead?

1392
01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:29.840
Right?

1393
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:39.439
Yeah, morsel, that's the point. You can't create anything, right,

1394
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.159
you know. Again, he can just use things just like

1395
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:47.760
we can. They might have some sort of power or

1396
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:52.000
or supernatural pred and natural thing going on, but at

1397
01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:52.960
the end of the day, what.

1398
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:30.560
Sure, Oh, it was a long way down that mountain,

1399
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:51.199
that's all I can say. A long way, right.

1400
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:11.920
Yeah.

1401
01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:28.800
I think it's really funny too, And this is actually

1402
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:31.359
something I'd like to explore. I think it's really interesting,

1403
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:37.680
is that all of these foes of ours. So what

1404
01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:40.039
I actually believe, this is actually what I believe. I

1405
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.199
think that the devil believes that his endgame is to

1406
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:48.000
kill God. I think that that's what he's trying to do.

1407
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.560
I think, yeah, and if you destroy the character of God,

1408
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:53.800
you destroy God, right, because if you make him out

1409
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.239
to be a liar, then he no longer is the

1410
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.159
being that he claims to be. And so I think

1411
01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:03.880
that that's the Devil's ultimate endgame. I think I think

1412
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.199
that that's his final trump card and his final play.

1413
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.399
But what's funny to me about that? And I've been

1414
01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:11.840
thinking about it ever since I thought about the light matrix.

1415
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:16.960
I was like, dude, you're trying to fight the author

1416
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:21.439
of the light matrix on the light matrix with the

1417
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:24.600
light matrix. It's not gonna work.

1418
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:26.359
There's no way.

1419
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:32.640
Light right right.

1420
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:49.439
Well, it's it's like, you know, I spent a bunch

1421
01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:53.560
of time in the military, just think that, you know,

1422
01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:56.319
it doesn't need to be because I'm a soldier or whatever.

1423
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:57.199
No, I don't want to hear it.

1424
01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:00.600
You're everyone's watching the movies are always really the movie, right,

1425
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:06.840
Everyone's seen a war movie. And you if you are

1426
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:11.800
running across the battlefield killing the enemy. And you're still running,

1427
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.319
and you run out of bullets, and you pick up

1428
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:18.439
the enemy's weapon, you can still kill the enemy with

1429
01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:22.880
their own weapons. Yeah, I'm sorry, So stop I get

1430
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:29.319
so mad with in the spiritual warfare. I'm in it, man,

1431
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:33.279
I'm in all in. I mean, like right now, just

1432
01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:38.840
just to give clarity to folks, we're fighting with one

1433
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:42.079
of my daughters. We are fighting a spiritual war. Not

1434
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.359
not her and I, but her and I together against

1435
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:51.039
something I've also I have also had, you know, I mean,

1436
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:54.640
if you guys know anything about my background, I had

1437
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:59.800
a prolonged, pretty good battle with a Lilith type character,

1438
01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:03.800
a succubus whatever you want to say, demon. I don't know.

1439
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:06.119
I don't know exactly, I don't know, but all I

1440
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:12.720
do know is that this entity was vulnerable to the

1441
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:17.439
you know the name of Jesus. I can tell you that, yes,

1442
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:22.079
and all and all of those tools, everything from you know,

1443
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:26.319
holy water to anointing oil, right, I mean, I even

1444
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:32.039
have a I even have a damn roller ball full

1445
01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:34.159
of anointing oil and frankncense.

1446
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:37.760
No, it's you know, you know what I mean?

1447
01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:41.800
Like the essential Oil's rolling ball. Well this has got

1448
01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:45.760
anointing oil and frankincense in it, so bring it. I'm

1449
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:51.760
just saying, you've got to use the tools that are

1450
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:57.520
at hand within reason and discernment, right, knowing what you

1451
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:00.920
can control on what you can't and or I mean

1452
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.920
the biggest case of control is Solomon. He thought he

1453
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:07.239
could control it all, but he could period. So I'm

1454
01:33:07.319 --> 01:33:10.359
just saying, I don't know where I was even going

1455
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:10.640
with this.

1456
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:14.479
I think you're talking about how how we how the

1457
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.199
enemy you know, uses tools and so because they.

1458
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:19.720
I feel like if you're telling me not to use

1459
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:24.680
AI because it's from the devil. Devil, maybe you're maybe

1460
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:34.039
your character suspect m maybe you're maybe you are. Yeah,

1461
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:35.439
why can't I pick up the hammer?

1462
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:36.600
Right?

1463
01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:42.239
It's not like Thor's hammer that I can't lift, you.

1464
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:49.960
Know, yeah?

1465
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:52.119
Right?

1466
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:14.640
Yep, poor Internet, it's almost like a religion there.

1467
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:20.880
Yeah, there really is, dude, It's wild and I think

1468
01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:30.000
the real loser. Lly, well, I guess she'll log back on.

1469
01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:34.119
I was gonna say, man, oh, sorry, were you gonna

1470
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:34.479
see something?

1471
01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:36.039
No, no, go ahead.

1472
01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:37.000
I was just gonna say.

1473
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:39.560
One of our.

1474
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:42.560
One of my bones to pick I think it's for

1475
01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:44.880
both of us, but it's really for me. One of

1476
01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:47.760
my bones to pick with people's is that people assume

1477
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:51.079
that the spiritual, that the physical doesn't have anything to

1478
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:53.159
do with the spiritual, and the spiritual doesn't have to

1479
01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.359
do anything with the physical. They think that those are

1480
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:58.520
two separate categories. And I mean you, I mean, if

1481
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.119
you see a cryptid at any point in your life,

1482
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:05.359
you know that those categories are so unbelievably blurry and

1483
01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:11.039
so unbelievably intertwined that it's absurd to try and say

1484
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.039
anything else. And so when I see you with your

1485
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.079
holy water, and I see you with you know, with

1486
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.039
your anointing oil, it's funny. I raised this with a

1487
01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:21.319
friend of mine a while back at church. I go

1488
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:24.399
to an evangelical church, and everything for for where we go,

1489
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.800
I did not. Again, I did not grow up like that.

1490
01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:30.279
That was not my cup of tea when I grown

1491
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:32.079
up I did not either either.

1492
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:32.560
Really.

1493
01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:36.960
Yeah, and so my dad was a pastor in theory,

1494
01:35:37.359 --> 01:35:41.880
but it might as well be a mail order pastor. Yeah,

1495
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.640
even though he had his degrees and stuff, it might

1496
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:48.479
as well been like life church that he that he

1497
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:52.199
that I'm a pastor of the Universal Life Church, so

1498
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:55.760
I could marry somebody, right, So Leah, you know what

1499
01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:56.479
I'm saying.

1500
01:35:57.560 --> 01:35:59.840
Now, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, but I get you.

1501
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:00.880
I get you, man.

1502
01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:03.399
So I mean I was I felt like everything spiritual

1503
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:05.640
that had anything to do with anything was stifled when

1504
01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:07.680
I was growing up. And so that's why I go

1505
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:13.039
to an evangelical church now. But if I'm being honest, dude,

1506
01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:18.319
like Catholics with their sacraments and all this stuff, I mean,

1507
01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:21.199
there's really stuff to be said about that. I'm not

1508
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.680
telling you to be super woo woo and you have

1509
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:25.560
to freak out from everything. I mean, we've been given

1510
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:29.159
dominion and power and authority, like all those things are true,

1511
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:36.760
and simultaneously, spirits can inhabit objects like let's just call

1512
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:38.239
it what it is, right, Like, if they want to

1513
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:40.359
inhabit our bodies, what makes you think that they wouldn't

1514
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.680
at least accept a subpar version? Which is why I

1515
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:45.359
was talking about the rocks, which is why I was

1516
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.119
talking about you know, the mirrors, that's where you're talking

1517
01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:51.159
about scrying. I mean, that's it's a very common thing.

1518
01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:52.760
In fact, I just learned the other day I don't

1519
01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:55.439
know if this is true, but I heard that where

1520
01:36:55.520 --> 01:37:03.960
scrying actually came from was when uh, when Inokian was

1521
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:08.039
being downloaded to good Night. I'm gonna forget these two

1522
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:09.800
guys name, but they were in I think it was

1523
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:10.760
in England.

1524
01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:12.720
A.

1525
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:19.920
Priest type figure who was very into esoteric things for

1526
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:22.359
the purpose of, you know, glorifying God, like that was

1527
01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:26.880
his whole thing. But he kind of got in working

1528
01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.560
with this kind of shady character. I can't remember these

1529
01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:30.680
guys names. I'm sorry, man.

1530
01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:38.239
Or Oh so this is way back? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1531
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:40.479
and I and I and I probably know who you're talking.

1532
01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:42.520
I know who you're talking about, but I can't remember.

1533
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:45.079
Yeah, I mean, neither here nor there. You guys can

1534
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:46.279
look it up if you want to. I mean it's

1535
01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:49.000
it's uh oh, here we go D and Edward John

1536
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:49.920
D and Edward Kelly.

1537
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:53.720
That's indeed, that's that's it, John D Y And.

1538
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:56.319
So when we oh, gosh, where was I going with this?

1539
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:57.119
Oh yeah, yeah.

1540
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:01.279
It turns out that when he received the stone from

1541
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:05.079
I want to say it was Raphael I think was

1542
01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:07.039
the one that gave him the stone, and that stone

1543
01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:12.600
was used for scrying because but what's his name again,

1544
01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:17.920
Kelly Edward. Kelly would use that stone to get downloads

1545
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:21.760
from supposedly from these angels, right from these and then

1546
01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:25.159
he would write out all the script. I have some

1547
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:28.119
choice thoughts about that, which I think that there's some validity,

1548
01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:30.960
and I also think that there's some intentional deception in

1549
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:33.880
that whole thing, which is most stuff, to be honest,

1550
01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:44.680
but nonetheless, like that is a complete spiritual download into

1551
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:49.079
the physical. It's it's a direct translation into physical and I,

1552
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:53.199
for the life of me, cannot understand why modern Christianity

1553
01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:59.600
refuses to acknowledge that the door swings both ways. I'm

1554
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.920
just like, what makes you think it wouldn't right? Like,

1555
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:06.239
if things can come here, why can't we send things there?

1556
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:07.319
I mean, we see portals.

1557
01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:11.560
We say it all the time, though, stuff, why do

1558
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.960
we Why are prayers? It seems as though sometimes prayer

1559
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:21.159
has more power when it's set out loud right, not

1560
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:26.319
not not necessarily, but it depends, right, It's not just

1561
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:31.600
because when circumstantial, i mean, God spoke this entire thing

1562
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.720
in existence, and at the end of the day, you know,

1563
01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:38.520
what happens here happens there, and what happens there can

1564
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:43.039
happen here, right, So it's it's all and what does

1565
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.640
it all come down to. It all comes down to energy. Vibration.

1566
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:48.600
That's all energy is.

1567
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:50.159
It's all light is vibration.

1568
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:54.920
It's exactly what it is. Is vibrations have power. I

1569
01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:56.159
mean absolutely.

1570
01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:59.279
I mean when I like when I talk into a

1571
01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:02.319
mic and I do in a certain way, people can

1572
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:04.840
feel it as much as they can hear it, right

1573
01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:09.000
because of the way my voice works. So telling me

1574
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:13.680
that's not it doesn't have power, it's wild.

1575
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:16.199
Yeah, So I mean that that'll be those will be

1576
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:18.600
some of the topics that we continue to push forward.

1577
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:22.920
But new topics. I mean, shoot, Nazism is like one

1578
01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:25.399
of those things that we've been wanting to dig into

1579
01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:26.479
deep for a while.

1580
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:29.359
It gets stuck, gets wacky, but it's.

1581
01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:33.920
Really really does man. Man, I'm trying to think that

1582
01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:35.880
some of the topics that we've had on our mind

1583
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:36.319
for a while.

1584
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:36.640
Dude.

1585
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:38.560
Honestly, you know what, man, One of the things that

1586
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.479
I've been really that the Lord's been pressing on me is,

1587
01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:44.359
you know, keep researching they're weird. I have no problem

1588
01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:50.119
with that, but is really heavily focused on how to battle,

1589
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.239
on how on how to on how to fight.

1590
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:56.800
Yeah, I'm I'm writing a book on spiritual warfare. Really,

1591
01:40:57.520 --> 01:41:01.640
I mean literally, what's funny is is that had I

1592
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:07.000
was gonna release it not that long ago Bo Kennedy

1593
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:14.640
released his book, which is great. It's mine's different. It's

1594
01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:19.359
the same but yet different. He'd beat each other punched.

1595
01:41:19.399 --> 01:41:20.800
I'm like, well, I can't release.

1596
01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:24.560
This, Okay, I gotta give it. I gotta give it

1597
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:25.239
some a.

1598
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:27.439
Few months and I'll put What I'll probably do is

1599
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:32.600
release it when I go yeah, probably in the fall.

1600
01:41:33.199 --> 01:41:36.399
But anyway, you know, I'm getting stuff together because I

1601
01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:40.880
take this stuff very seriously. After my own instances and

1602
01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:43.800
then this stuff that I'm dealing with with my daughter

1603
01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:49.439
and just people that I see. I don't have demonic

1604
01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:53.680
panic or anything, you know, like the satanic panic panic. Yeah,

1605
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:57.680
there is, though I had a guest yesterday who brought

1606
01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:01.680
that up. Uh, there is a little flavor of demonic

1607
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:05.600
panic right now. In my opinion, I don't think all

1608
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:08.640
the things that people think are demons are actually demons.

1609
01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:11.600
Well it's a pendulum, right because and I.

1610
01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.680
Also think people think things are demons that or like that.

1611
01:42:15.800 --> 01:42:17.039
That's all there is, no.

1612
01:42:17.199 --> 01:42:20.560
Yeah, no, no, no, wait, no, got to be centered, dude.

1613
01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:23.439
I mean, yeah, you can't be so heavenly minded that.

1614
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.960
You're no earthly used, right, you get tunnel vision exactly.

1615
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:29.640
And I and I refuse to play this game.

1616
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.039
So not everything is the Divine Council.

1617
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:32.399
It's just not.

1618
01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:35.399
Yeah, it's not. I mean, and I look at like

1619
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:39.079
energy work, good, bad, all that stuff, like people are like, no,

1620
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:42.680
you can't do reiki, it's evil, and I'm like, bro, really,

1621
01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:47.079
I'm if I'm pulling the energy in the name of Jesus,

1622
01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:50.760
how is that bad? Don't tell me it's bad. I'm

1623
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:53.800
not using symbols. I'm not using this. I'm not using that.

1624
01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:56.800
I'm literally channeling the Holy Spirit.

1625
01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:00.319
I would like to hear this actually if I'm saying,

1626
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:02.279
have you on and hear you talk about it, because

1627
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:06.359
I mean, I loosely knew reiki and I started looking

1628
01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:08.600
some stuff up and I was curious about you know,

1629
01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:11.399
where it came from, and it's it's fairly fairly well,

1630
01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:15.000
at least under its title, it's a fairly recent practice.

1631
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.960
Yeah, from Japan. Right, right, Let's see, this is the thing.

1632
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:24.159
It's like calling angels angels. Angels aren't that's not what

1633
01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:25.960
they are. That's a job title.

1634
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:26.960
I see what you're saying.

1635
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:29.840
It's the lack of a thing. So everyone all energy

1636
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:33.199
work now is reiki. And and then I feel like

1637
01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:37.079
it's I feel like it does the I mean, the

1638
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:41.560
energy comes from somewhere, right, sure, the end right, it gives,

1639
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:48.920
it gives you, just gives you. Uh, let's stop limiting ourselves,

1640
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:53.359
right because it's there. It's there, and everything we do,

1641
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:57.319
everything is made with it, everything that surrounds us YadA YadA,

1642
01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:01.039
YadA YadA, like adding nauseum. And if I can help

1643
01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:04.079
somebody with that, it's not like I'm healing them. It's

1644
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.600
not me. I'm just the conduit.

1645
01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:09.239
That's interesting, it's actually the person.

1646
01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:14.119
I'm just helping to funnel it to them, right to

1647
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:20.279
use it, right to heal themselves or whatever. So with

1648
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:24.039
that being said, that's interesting. I'm kind of running up

1649
01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:28.880
against the stop here because here it's almost ten.

1650
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:30.039
And I still got a pack.

1651
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.159
Oh dude, yeah, well let's let's let's.

1652
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:35.359
I wish Shelley when it came back. It feels great

1653
01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:37.199
to see her, but it is what it is. Well,

1654
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:40.640
we'll do this again, I can tell you, surely.

1655
01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:43.960
Oh's literally she's literally calling me right now. Let me

1656
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:47.960
just tell her real quick, well, let me answer her. Actually, sure,

1657
01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:50.279
Hey dude, what's up? You're good?

1658
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:54.760
No, I've totally lost my internet, Like we cannot get it.

1659
01:44:54.960 --> 01:44:58.880
Oh wow, a lot of wind and storm over here.

1660
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:01.840
Rebuke those uh.

1661
01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:08.439
As that are I like, this is a prayer I

1662
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:10.840
say every time before I record.

1663
01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:15.359
WHOA Really, dude, that's cool, She'll let me. We're about

1664
01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:15.920
to finish up.

1665
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:18.880
Tell her to we can hear her, so tell her

1666
01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:20.159
to say goodbye to everybody.

1667
01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:24.399
I'm sorry, it's well, I can't control the.

1668
01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:25.159
No, you're good.

1669
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:27.359
Why don't you say sign off though, and say goodbye

1670
01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:29.039
because we we're just about to finish up anyway, so

1671
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:32.880
say hi and bye and whatever you want to sign

1672
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:33.159
off with.

1673
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:37.560
Well, I I can't even get onlines.

1674
01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:40.000
No right here, all right, we can hear you.

1675
01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:44.479
Well, okay, Well, God bless you guys, Sem shalom.

1676
01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:48.000
Mar there we go one of our One of the

1677
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:49.800
things that Shell and I always say when we finish

1678
01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:53.239
a podcast. She always says the ironic blessing and then

1679
01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:56.520
uh we finished with God blessed, shalom shalom and Maranatha

1680
01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:58.760
and I mean, that's that's kind of our that's our

1681
01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:02.640
calling card, man, like, come Jesus, we're ready, man, We're

1682
01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:05.720
ready when you are. All right, dude, we I'll let

1683
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:07.039
you go and we're gonna We're just gonna hop off.

1684
01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:10.359
Okay, shall all right, we have to do this again

1685
01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:12.039
and yeah, we'll talk against.

1686
01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:13.880
He says, we'll talk again soon.

1687
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all it's a pleasure.

1688
01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:17.840
I love you, man, you buddy.

1689
01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:19.119
Bye bye.

1690
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:20.520
Yeah.

1691
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:22.239
Man, Well, thanks for having me on, dude, thanks for

1692
01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:23.159
being patient, and.

1693
01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:26.279
Uh, tell everybody where we can find you.

1694
01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:30.439
Yeah, man, reach out to us at on. You can

1695
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:32.359
go on Facebook if you want. We have actually a

1696
01:46:32.479 --> 01:46:35.359
huge following on Facebook, but we don't really do much

1697
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:37.479
on it at the moment because Facebook doesn't want to

1698
01:46:37.520 --> 01:46:41.279
do anything for anyone at the moment. So whatever, you

1699
01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:44.920
can find us there. You can find us principally on Instagram,

1700
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:48.119
but you can also find us on TikTok, on x.

1701
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:50.439
I think those are the main outlets, but you can

1702
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:52.840
watch us just about anywhere. I even had us on

1703
01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:54.439
Rumble for a while, but it just seemed like I

1704
01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:55.960
was I was spitting in the wind.

1705
01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:01.399
And just like I'm so consistent with Rumble.

1706
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:03.359
It's it's hit or miss Yde.

1707
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:05.960
It's just another thing to do. Yeah, it really is.

1708
01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.600
And I'm frankly thinking about getting just an ai to

1709
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.920
just post everywhere for me, just just freaking blast it

1710
01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:12.319
out there.

1711
01:47:12.399 --> 01:47:14.680
You know there is there is something though. If you

1712
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:17.840
post on Rumble, it will post to YouTube as well,

1713
01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:21.800
so like you can go through Rumble to post on YouTube.

1714
01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:24.199
I don't know how great that is that.

1715
01:47:24.359 --> 01:47:27.680
I don't know if that'll punish me, but they already

1716
01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:29.000
are and you can check it out.

1717
01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:34.680
So yeah, I mean, I know, plant to seed before

1718
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:34.960
you go.

1719
01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:40.399
Absolutely man, prayer or just whatever comes to mind.

1720
01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:45.399
And plant anything like whether it's a life lesson or whatever.

1721
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:46.920
Good stuff.

1722
01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:49.520
But see what, Yeah, I will plant a life lesson.

1723
01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:55.680
My wife and I, for as long as I can remember,

1724
01:47:55.920 --> 01:48:03.000
have had difficulties with income and stuff, and and I

1725
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:06.000
just I feel compelled to tell you wherever you are.

1726
01:48:07.279 --> 01:48:09.920
I got this word yesterday from from Vicky actually, of

1727
01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.640
all people, there you go. She said, you know what,

1728
01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:17.560
maybe the fact that you don't have access to stable

1729
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:21.880
work and stable income and stable this and stable that.

1730
01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:26.840
Remember that you live in a Babylonian system. You are

1731
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:31.159
supposed to ask for your daily bread, you know. I mean,

1732
01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:33.199
that's what we're called here to do. Give me what

1733
01:48:33.359 --> 01:48:35.960
I need for today, a God. And I think that

1734
01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.479
that's what we all need to remember, is we need

1735
01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:40.680
to live in the moment where we live in a

1736
01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:46.760
society where we're constantly planning everything ahead. Live now, plan

1737
01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:50.600
for tomorrow so that you can live now. Don't waste

1738
01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:53.840
time on the things that have no value in eternity. Man,

1739
01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.840
And I guess this is my last thought. One of

1740
01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:01.159
the things, besides Nephelom, Sons of God and the divine

1741
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:05.600
counsel that has most changed my life bro is das

1742
01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:10.520
near death experiences. I call them post death experiences. Frankly,

1743
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:17.479
I've heard stories that have forever changed me as a

1744
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:20.119
human being by people that have gone into the presence

1745
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:22.600
of God. And you can call that whatever that place

1746
01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:25.640
is that they go, But the point here is that

1747
01:49:26.119 --> 01:49:29.279
they go, they come back. And I think that what

1748
01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:32.359
most impacts me, besides hearing all those crazy awesome things,

1749
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:35.279
is that they say, I just don't really care about

1750
01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.720
what's here anymore. It's just not as important to me

1751
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:41.319
as it used to be. Your family is, of course,

1752
01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:45.000
you know, but it's one guy described it like this.

1753
01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:47.720
He says, it was like being put back in the sewer.

1754
01:49:48.640 --> 01:49:51.840
Imagine what's on the other side, man, Imagine and live

1755
01:49:51.880 --> 01:49:54.600
your life that way. Live your life that way, live

1756
01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:58.800
your life every day thinking what does this action mean

1757
01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:05.159
for eternity? Good stuff, man, So good to have you on.

1758
01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:05.520
Man.

1759
01:50:05.720 --> 01:50:08.159
Likewise, bro, I'm sure we'll do it again soon.

1760
01:50:08.359 --> 01:50:09.880
Heck yeah, man, Okay, thank you for having me on.

1761
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.199
I appreciate it. And likewise you can. We'll have to

1762
01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:15.000
have you on so we can. I'd like to hear

1763
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:20.359
your story and more about kind of everything I heard you.

1764
01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:24.159
I heard you on on biblical hitmen, and and I

1765
01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:26.039
heard you kind of shared a little bit about it,

1766
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:26.399
and I was like.

1767
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:28.760
Oh, yeah, I didn't have an ND, but I've got

1768
01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:29.560
stuff from it.

1769
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:31.680
That's wild.

1770
01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:32.439
That's wild.

1771
01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:34.079
Hey man, I take what you get.

1772
01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:37.520
All right, buddy, all right, man, you too, roight.

1773
01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:49.119
And it came to pass when men began to multiply

1774
01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:52.239
on the face of your the sons of God saw

1775
01:50:52.319 --> 01:50:55.880
the daughters of men that they were fair, and they

1776
01:50:55.920 --> 01:51:02.680
took them wives of all which they chose. They bore

1777
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:05.640
them giant.

1778
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:15.520
Giants.

1779
01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:26.239
Yo.

1780
01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:29.439
Watch drop versus like tablets from sineis miss scrolls of

1781
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:32.520
Gnoch encrypted in the shadow twist, watch of blood.

1782
01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:35.119
Dripping from celestial fist. Not for them stomping earth.

1783
01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:35.840
They ain't missed.

1784
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:37.640
They exist back in genes assists.

1785
01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:40.960
The heavens fell hard, angels broke ranks down, the veils,

1786
01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.119
got scars, took the daughter as a man down, the

1787
01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:46.680
blood lines, sainted hybrid beasts in the woods, faces unbainted.

1788
01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:50.039
They threw a warm metal root, cutting the charms alchemy

1789
01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:53.359
and death in the briston arms Isazel fell found in

1790
01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:55.920
Dutch Jill's pit, but his whispers still echo when the

1791
01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:59.039
witches spin. They gave men the blade, the curse. The

1792
01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:01.920
fire taught them see frits to heaven. Now the stars conspire.

1793
01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:04.800
The blood came down, but the blood remained. Now we

1794
01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:07.239
fight in the spirit Holy War and the brain.

1795
01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:29.159
God Spit Apocalypse.

1796
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:31.359
Coas like I'm John on Pam moss I's Flame Brad

1797
01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:33.520
with the verse that all slap ghost rap post of

1798
01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:36.479
the Seraphim Pal mcclett sitting on our walk through dimensions

1799
01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:39.680
where the spirit Saint Genne two police told that Jash

1800
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:44.119
too came't pilt cities, but the spirits flew from Mount Herman.

1801
01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:46.039
They dropped in thirteen's.

1802
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:46.680
Pack, signed and blood.

1803
01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:47.920
Now they horn our dreams.

1804
01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:51.960
They tore the enchantments, signs in the skies named the constellations,

1805
01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:53.039
and forge man slides.

1806
01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:55.760
Now we chased big Foot Nah the stair kin.

1807
01:52:55.800 --> 01:52:58.720
A remnant left over from netfold sin to a man

1808
01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:03.239
in shadows, signs and lake skin walkers prowling shrouded in face.

1809
01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:05.760
But the saint no fairy tale of dn d quest.

1810
01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:06.880
This's a spiritual war.

1811
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:08.840
Ahmad with the blaster.

1812
01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:19.359
Against the Principality's powers, rulers of darkness and plays ripped.

1813
01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:19.800
From the watch.

1814
01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:22.680
How I study the scrolls lining the wiscripture. Then I

1815
01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:25.600
leased up souls. Every demon got a route, every lie

1816
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:28.119
got a name. In that serpent still whispering, he ain't

1817
01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:31.000
changed the game. Living in the window came in the

1818
01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:33.239
midst but I walked with the lamb, not a pang

1819
01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.279
nor face. The veils torn, but the war rain't done.

1820
01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:39.680
We in the fourth watchdown, waiting for the sun mark

1821
01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:43.359
of the beasts, digital change, parself prophets trying to hi

1822
01:53:43.479 --> 01:53:46.039
jack brains, but we bringing out the truth. No sugar,

1823
01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:48.039
no gloss, just ruggie gospel.

1824
01:53:48.199 --> 01:54:02.359
Still to the cross, ten sons of God, daughters of men.

1825
01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:06.560
Once they wondering way, so that he not strolls to

1826
01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:09.119
the last. They meant he bit in the throws to

1827
01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:10.319
the nest manton.

1828
01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:15.359
As it was in the days of Noah, so shall

1829
01:54:15.399 --> 01:54:17.399
it be in the coming of the Son of Man.