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The only objective evidence that I don't think you have
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an answer for is the observation of unified misremembering. And
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if you can't provide an alternate explanation for this, because
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it's verifiable, you don't have to take my word for it,
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then our testimony has no objection. And then you can
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no longer brush us aside as just misremembering. You have
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to deal with.
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Us post in the minds of the being.
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All right, John, I won't to start with the frame
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that I think most of my audience carries into this conversation,
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and they believe one of two things. Either the Bible
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has been perfectly preserved by God and what we have
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is what we always intend, what was always intended right,
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or it was corrupted centuries ago by the Catholic Church
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or Constantine or some council and the damage was done
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a long time ago. Either way, though, they think the
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battle is historical and it's over and the text is
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fixed right that your research says neither of these positions
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accounts for what's actually happening right now. So before we
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get into the history, and before we get into the
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manuscripts and the councils and the removed books. Right, I
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want to ask you the question my audience needs answered first,
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and what are you actually seeing? And we talked about
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this in the first episode a little bit, but just
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to reiterate, give me the most undeniable example you have
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of a text that people with long term scripture memory
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our finding has changed, and tell me why you believe
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it cannot be explained by translation differences or false memory.
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Okay, I'll answer directly. I'll give you the top three
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scriptures that I believe will resonate with just about every
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listener that have changed from their memory. The first one
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is Job one one, and I'll do a fill in
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the blanks question for you, Bennett, and have you fill
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it in, and the listeners can do the same. This
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is when Job was going through the meat grinder and
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his wife was haranguing him, and he was like, should
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we not receive good and evil from the hand of
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the Lord, And then he says this one of the
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most quoted passages in the Bible, the Lord black and
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the Lord blanks away. It's King James.
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Yeah, what do you remember, Lord giveth and the Lord taketh.
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Correct? Now, in my pastor's study with thirty participants, twenty
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nine out of thirty pastors all chose what you just
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said out of a multiple choice option of three choices.
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And that answers your second question, which is, what is
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your evidence that this isn't just common, every day misremembering?
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Right?
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Okay, because according to several studies that I have on
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altered Bible dot com, the third party studies found that
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the average amount of misremembering in the human condition is
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about twenty five percent. Okay, but when you have twenty
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nine out of thirty misremembering, that's actually ninety six point
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seven percent. So they either all have dementia or there's
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something unexplainable happening. However, however, Okay, they weren't misremembering randomly,
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So not only is the level of misremembering a statistical anomaly,
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they were flying information. They all chose the same wrong answer,
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so none of them chose the other wrong answer, So
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that takes the level of probabilities into the quintillions.
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Right.
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Okay, Now that demands an explanation. In other words, what
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that proves. It doesn't necessarily prove the Bible is changing,
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but what it does prove is that we're not misremembering,
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because if we were simply misremembering, we wouldn't be misremembering
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at levels of ninety percent, and we wouldn't be misremembering
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the same way. So now the church has to respond
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to that data. And the reason they have to respond
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is because they could use my online Bible quiz at
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altered bible dot com. There's twenty questions. It's an online
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quiz and you can go do your own research. You'll
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experience what we're about gonna do right here about it.
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I'm gonna give you the quizes and you're gonna fail them,
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just like you just did right now. Another stat because
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I'm taking an evidence based approach to this, is if
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you if you ask chat to calculate the probability of
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only five people misremembering five simple Bible quiz questions the
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same way by chance, with about three option choices, I
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think the number is like ten to the nineteenth power,
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so it's one in ten quintillion. In other words, imagine
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if you pick the number, let's say the number six,
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and then you go out and you ask ten people, hey,
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I'm thinking of a number, what between one and ten?
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What number do you think I'm thinking of? And they
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all say four. They all guess wrong, but they all
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guess the same wrong answer, right, What would be the
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chances of that even happening with ten people? But now
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imagine you do it again and again and again and again,
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you do it four more times. Okay, So what that
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proves is if we can stump you just five times,
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that places it outside the possibility of random you know,
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because of the our poor memory. All right, Then, as
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far as version confusion or modernizations, the King James questioning
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that you just failed, like the rest of humanity does,
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is very It's totally unique because all of the modern
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versions have removed the these and the vous, so you
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couldn't be confused by versions on that question. And also
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it's not modernizations because if you go into the sixteen
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eleven Cambridge, all three of the reversions, and then the
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six seventeen sixty nine Oxford, it also is the same
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way then as it is now. Okay. And by the way,
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the actual text, the actual rendering says the Lord gave
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and the Lord hath taken away. I mean, you can't
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even get the words out of your mouth. It's not right.
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That's not how I remember.
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It is no, no, And the human condition is that
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we have a human emotion or it's kind of a
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condition of the soul called certainty, and it's a very
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important aspect of the human condition and it can't be
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just dismissed as irrelevant. But all of these changes are subjective.
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So what I've done is I've gone to this effort
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to get a survey. I have an international one too,
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with over one hundred respondents. And the numbers are the
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same the seven or eight countries. The numbers are ten
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different passages. The numbers are in the eighty and ninety percentile,
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whether they're almost from read the same way. So this
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is worldwide with all of humanity, come once, Come on, Yeah,
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can't be misquotes from pop culture doing that. All right?
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So this does that answer the question?
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I think Yeah, I think it does. I would say absolutely.
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All right. And this is so critical because there's so
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much inertia and normalcy bias against embracing this. First of all,
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because of how exotic the phenomenon is. I mean, it's
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pretty mind bending to try to figure out how could
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this possibly happen? Right? Yeah? Right? But secondly, and I
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would say even more though, is that we have this
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long standing foundational belief that the Word of God is fixed. Okay,
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and so what you said in your opening statement is
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the key to understanding that, because what you said is
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the Bible has been preserved. Yeah, all right, And what's
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happened This is sort of a really a weird feeling
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to think that I'm right and the entire church is wrong. Okay,
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But it appears as though the entire body of Christ
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is conflating the term Bible, scripture, and word to mean
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the same thing. Because what I've done is I've gone
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into the scriptures and I've found that the scriptures do
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not interpret those three words the same way. Yeah. So
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for instance, John chapter one, verse one, the word was
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God in the beginning was the word. The word was
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with God, the word was God. So just on that example,
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I have more. Wouldn't you agree that at least in
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that verse John one one is interpreting the term word
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as something other than your King James Bible in English? Yeah, right,
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would okay? And then another examples Revelation nineteen. I believe
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it is where John sees Jesus on the throne, he
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sees a person, not a Bible, and he says, see
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that guy over there, his name is the Word of God.
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So there again you have the Bible giving you a
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definition of the term word, which is not your Bible. Okay,
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So now if you go to any of the preservation
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promises like Psalms one nineteen eighty nine, thy word, O
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Lord is forever settled in Heaven, it doesn't say thy Bible,
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O Lord is forever settled Heaven.
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And that's where basically we start this dialogue around the
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fact that the preservation promises have been mishandled with sloppy
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doctrine and ignoring semantics and contexts. And it's only then
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that what we're doing now can maybe penetrate that barrier.
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So as we're doing these examples now, I think you know,
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at least your heart and mind may be open to
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the fact that what we talked about in the pre
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talk was the other sentiment, which is very strong, is
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this is the sentimental argument that God would never do this. Yeah.
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Well I went into the Bible and I found nine
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different examples of where God's done this. Yeah, so he
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very he absolutely will do this.
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Yeah for sure, I mean especially, I mean especially because
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things change, right, I mean, covenants change, all yes, yes, So.
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All right, let's do some more. Yeah, Hey, this is
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another extremely familiar passage. And on my pastor survey I
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got a seventy three percent all misremembered the same way.
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This is Matthew seven to one. Judge not blank blank judged,
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judge not black you be judged.
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Yeah, it's a judge not.
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If it doesn't come right to you when I say it.
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You'll yeah it doesn't. It's not coming right too, but
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I know it's got to be. I mean, it's like judge,
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not take your time, ye, maybe something like that.
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How about less.
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Lest there you go?
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So now you say it.
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Judge, not lest ye be judged.
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There you go. Okay, so about seven out of ten
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pastors chose what you just said right. However, the King
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J's Bible has never said that in any version, in
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any language, in any century. No, you gotta ask yourself, well,
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if it's never been in the sixteen eleven Cambridge, the
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seventeen sixty nine Oxford, which is where ninety eight percent
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of all King James Bibles get their textrum, it was
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never in there. So it's not a modernization issue. It
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can't be a version confusion issue because it's King james
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E language. You don't see lests and thithers in these
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and thous in the NIV or any of those.
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Right.
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So if everybody's remembering the King James lingo, that means
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it has to be in the King James Bible, right,
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it makes sense, and it's in their long term memory. See,
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that's an undeniable, repeatable, measurable factoid that you cannot just
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brush aside like it's irrelevant what it is. I just
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realizes it's the bloody knife. It's it's you're the suspect
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and we just found the bloody knife in your basement.
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Poor you. Okay, At what the church, the entire church
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is trying to do is to get the bloody knives,
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get out, get that out of the evidence. We don't
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want to talk about that, right, Sorry, So do you
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find it, Matthew seven to one?
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Well, I'm trying to find it in my action. So
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here's trying to find it in my actual bibe.
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What version do you have?
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I have? Well, I'm holding on to is this? Oh man,
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this is so I grabbed my wrong one.
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That's all right?
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What Holy Bible concordance red letter illustrated in it's Oxford Oxford.
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So so oh, so that's the seventeen sixteen on Oxford. Yeah,
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so that's the King James Bible. Yeah yeah, so Matthew, see,
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I'll let you read it chewing up. I still have
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to go to the index sometimes after forty I don't
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feel bad. I'm trying to find Titus the other day
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and I couldn't find it, and I'm like, you're joking, John,
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you can't find Titus. I'm going back and forth. So
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finally I went to the index. I was like, Matthew, Mark, Luke,
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John acts, you know Roman's okay, Titus, who it is?
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There? My gosh, this is not and this is an
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old Bible.
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It's right. It really helps when the host actually reads
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it for themselves. And so it's not photoshop tricks. Okay,
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it's in the printed Bibles. The reality is morphing. Timelines
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are shifting. This was prophesied. As you're looking that up,
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I'll just keep talking. This was prophesied by four different
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prophets Daniel seven twenty five. He will seek to change
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times and laws Daniel twelve. Shut up the words and
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seal the book until the time of the end. Okay,
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then over In Revelation twenty two, ten. We have the
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opposite bookend of that, where we have the unseiling of
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that prophecy, which one the Daniel seven twenty five prophecy,
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where where the time space, time and the Bible will
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be allowed to be changed. See God's allowing this, you guys.
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God is the one calling for this judgment that you
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see that in clear black and white. In Amos eight eleven,
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God said, I will send a famine, but not a
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famine of word of bread. It'll be a famine of