June 16, 2026

They Are Changing Your Bible, The Truth About Bookianity| with John Kirwin

They Are Changing Your Bible, The Truth About Bookianity| with John Kirwin
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They Are Changing Your Bible, The Truth About Bookianity| with John Kirwin
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Are Bibles supernaturally changing? Is the Mandela Effect connected to Scripture, prophecy, spiritual warfare, and end-times deception? In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Bennett welcomes back John Kerwin, author, researcher, and creator of Wake Up or Else and alteredbible.com, for a deeper conversation on Bible changes, the doctrine of preservation, cessationism, signs and wonders, spiritual authority, and what John calls “Bookianity.” This conversation does not ask listeners to blindly accept every claim. Instead, it challenges Christians to test the spirits, examine doctrine, and ask a difficult question: Have some believers elevated the physical book above the Living Word it points to? Whether you agree, disagree, or are simply curious, this is one of those conversations that forces you to ask uncomfortable questions about faith, doctrine, memory, and reality itself.

Guest: John Kerwin Websites: alteredbible.com | wakeuporelse.com

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There's a thread of panic in the voice too, because

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they know what the ramifications of this are, which are devastating.

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This is the most disruptive event in the entire church age,

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next to Jesus Christ showing up and then living a

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seamless life, being unrighteously killed for a substitutionary sacrifice and

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then rising from the dead. Aside from that, this is

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the next most disruptive event.

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This is my opinion right today and broadcasting Seeds, we

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are welcoming back a returning guest, and frankly, at this point, honestly,

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he is becoming part of the strange little family that

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we've got over here. And John Kerwin, John Kirwin is

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the author, researcher and voice behind to Wake Up or Else,

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and he has become one of the most controversial figures

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in the conversation surrounding the Mandela effect, supernatural Bible changes,

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and the doctrine of the preservation of scripture. His work

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does not just ask whether people are misremembering certain Bible verses.

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It asks a much bigger question, frankly, far more uncomfortable question,

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what if something supernatural is actually happening to the physical

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text of scripture? Now this is my third conversation with John,

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so we are going We're not going to simply rehash

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the same ground. We have already talked about the Bible changes.

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We have already talked about the Mandela effect. We have

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already stepped into that arena where people either lean forward

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with curiosity or immediately star are reaching for stones. So

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tonight you're going deeper, and John has an upcoming third book.

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The central idea is massive Why all Bibles are supernaturally changing,

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not one not just one translation right, not just one publisher,

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Not just a printing error here or there, or a

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memory issue here or there. The claim is that something

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much larger is taking place, and that is that it

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may connect to prophecy, spiritual deception, the end times, and

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the way God allows judgment, blindness and testing to unfold.

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Now let me say this right up front. You do

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not have to agree with every claim to take this conversation.

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See seriously. That is the whole point of broadcasting seeds.

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We ask hard questions. We look at the evidence, and

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we test spirits, We compare patterns, and sometimes we sit

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with frankly uncomfortable possibilities long enough to ask whether the

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official explanation is too small for the phenomenon, So buckle up.

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This one is going to challenge memory, doctrine, theology, and

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maybe even the way we think about reality itself. John Irwin,

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welcome back to broadcasting Seeds.

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All right, great, great, what a great intro. I love

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love your intros, Bennett. They're super insight.

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Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Tell people where they can find you.

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Yeah. Altered Bible dot com is the outreach site for

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bringing the message of the Bible change in revival to

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the world, and our YouTube channel and website is wakeupor

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Else dot com where a Christian fellowship for the Truther community.

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So we've been on there for nine years discipling believers

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who happen to also believe things like the moon landing

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is fake and the Earth is flat and aliens are real.

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All that stuff that you know, it gets you in

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trouble like it did for me. So actually, my first

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book is called The Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide, a guidebook

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for persecuted Truthers. And that book is the result of

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my beautiful wife of twenty four years asking me for

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a divorce because she thought I went crazy. She convinced

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all my kids that I'm crazy and I have bipolar

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and I'm lost it and I was a threat to them,

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and it was something that I soon discovered a lot

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of people go through. And so but as I was

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continuing this journey, you know, I found out the Bible

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Mandela fact was pretty easy to see. But then somebody said, hey,

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did you know that the Bible's changing too? I was like, well,

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the Bible can't change. I was just like everybody else,

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you know, there's people like that. But I just realized

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I'm sort of normy. With this one lady on TikTok

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that talks about cell phones how we're like a receptor.

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I can't remember her name, she's so intense. And then

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Celeste Slome's another one. She was pretty high up in

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FEMA and she reads all the white papers and she's like,

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you know, your jelly is full of nano particulars. You know.

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I'm like, I want it, yeah, my jelly, man, right,

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I just want something to go with my.

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Too, And so I think I'm like that to the max. Okay,

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my message is a bomber, but it isn't a bummer, okay.

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And actually I found this very helpful that all of

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my books are free. Okay, this is like my little disclaimer,

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all right, because I found that I'm very misunderstood because

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of what I'm talking about. So I'm not a grifter, Okay,

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I'm not in this for the money. I'm not a

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charlatan because I'm actually my books being downloaded at about

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two hundred books a day, just the one book. The

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other one's about half that. Well that's that's uh like

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three hundred books a day. But they're free, so if

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I was selling them, there'd be about ten percent probably

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a sales. Well that's thirty books a day time, six

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dollars and fifty cents. Yeah, okay, do the math, all right,

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I'm not I'm foregoing that for the mission. So because

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God told me, when you go out, don't take a bag,

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so I saw, oh really, GOSSI. So I deleted my website.

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I had a Shopify account, I had a private vitamin line.

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I made more money doing this for four years ago

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than I've ever made in my life. So I could

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be rolling, and I'm literally I just paid all my

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bills and I have fifty dollars in my account. I'm homeless. Okay,

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essentially I live with somebody. If I had to pay

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for my own way, I couldn't, all right. So, but

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the main reason that God told me is because my

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message is so disruptive that one of the primary attack

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vectors is to brand me as a grifter and a

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charlatan in it for the money. Well, then they find

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out my books are free, so it takes that attack

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vector away. But the other thing is I agree with

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the word of God. I just disagree with the prevailing

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interpretation of preservation. And I have twenty five theological arguments

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that show why the Bible can change. We covered those

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in the last episode, but you can see those at

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Altered Bible dot com and the educational docs, and then

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you can download my second book, which is called The

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Mandela Effect, Supernatural Bible Changes and the Doctrine of the

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Preservation of Scripture for free. It's also available on a

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hard copy on Amazon. But in those books, in that

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book and the one that's coming out very soon, I

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have more theology in those books than that it can

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change than you have that it can't change. So I'm

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not attacking the Bible. I'm not a rebel, I'm not

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a deceiver. I'm not unsaved. This is not a demonic

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attack on God's Church. If anything, I'm restoring sound doctrine

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to the church because what I've discovered, and only because

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I started to look at the Bible with the belief

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that it's changing, I had to go back in and say, well,

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if I don't believe God's a liar any more than

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you do, write so if the Bible is change, it

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must not be teaching that it can't change. So I

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had a paradigm shift as a as a fundamentalist. Okay,

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I've been in the ministry for forty years for the

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love of having. I love the Word of God. I'm

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an Orthodox. Well that's a bad word. People think it's Catholic.

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I'm conservative and strict in my interpretation of scripture.

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Yeah, your orthodox, but you're not actually like Orthodox Church orthodox.

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Right, It's a word that means strict. It means to

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the you know, proper exegesis, proper hermitidis.

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Right.

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So, but what I've discovered is a truckload bennet of

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sloppy doctrine that is widespread. There's there's reckless disregard for

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semantics and the meanings of words throughout the body of Christ.

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Reckless disregard for context. There's huge assumptions that are being

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relied on as though they're the decrees of God. Like

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theological necessity is a big one, and I didn't in

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the ministry forty years, I never really studied preservation. I

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didn't know what theological necessity was. Theological necessity is a guess.

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It's an assumption. What it says is, well, if God

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went to all this trouble to preserve to give us

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the Word, of course he's going to preserve it. And

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there's libraries of books written on that one concept, and

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they rephrase it thousands of different ways. But basically it's

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a sentimental guess. It isn't a doctrine. But what it

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does is it creates this one pillar of preservation. In

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other words, most people don't realize it. But you're relying

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on that sentimental guess for a lot of the certainty

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that you have that the Bible can't change because for

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your entire Christian life, people have stood at the front

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of the room and they've held up their King James

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Bible and they've said, this is the eternal, unchanging word

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of God, this is the foundation of your faith, and

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it can't change, and we're told over and over that

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it can't change, when the Bible itself teaches that it

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can change. Hebrews Chapter one, verse ten, God, you remain,

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but your creation changes. And the Bible's full of changes.

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There's seven different covenants, each one introducing new change. If

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the Bible can't change, then Hebrews Chapter eight shouldn't be

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in your Bible because it's telling you about the new

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Covenant with new promises that's changing. So this is one

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of the things I believe that God is coming down

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to correct and to restore the Church to its former glory.

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Because the title of the book is actually the subtitle

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is it says Statistical and Logical Evidence and the Death

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of Cessationism. That's the subtitle. So chapters three and four

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of this new book, and it's three hundred and forty pages,

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we I go into all of the misquoted scriptures, the

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church yanity sound bites, all of the bad advice of

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Cessationianism and how they lie about miracles, and basically just

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dismantle the whole argument. Because God wants a bribe without

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spot a wrinkle, and that means that we're going to

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have to be walking in the fullness, which has been

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disparaged through fear mongering. You know, you're told don't seek

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feelings and all that stuff. So yeah, it's just it's

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bad advice. It's unbiblical. Cessatianism is unbiblical. It's a construct

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that relies on scriptures that don't exist and a lot

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of assumptions and stuff.

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So that's my little disclaimer in Joe gotcha. Yeah, alright,

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thank you for that. So like your upcoming third book

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focuses on you know, just by all Bibles are supernaturally changing.

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What does that mean?

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Well, it was foretold that this would happen in four

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different places. Daniel, Amos, John and Paul gave us heads

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up and Daniel seven twenty five is probably the clearest

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description of it, speaking of the beast that says he

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will seek to change times and laws. Now I cover

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that in great detail in the second book, but the

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short version is that those two words times is not calendars.

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There's a separate word for that, and so it's actually

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time itself, like chronos. And then the word laws is

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translated in Ezra seven as the law of God, the

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same word, so it's it's a fair interpretation if you

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have a supernaturalist mindset. That Daniel saw this, he saw

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the Mandela effect, right, and he just tried to describe it.

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It's kind of hard to describe, right, So he's going

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to seek to change space time in the Bible, that's

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what he said, Yeah.

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I told us.

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And you know what, Enoch backs up Enoch Chapter eighty,

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verse three. Enoch says, in that day all things on

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the earth will alter and be out of their time.

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So that's nails. I mean, that is like so clearly

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describing what we're experiencing.

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And then and.

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What I found, you know, doing this, I mean nine

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years now, I started to notice that every time I

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ever got into a conversation with someone for the first time,

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it didn't take long for someone to blurt out the

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same question every time, and the statement seemed to be

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a question and a statement at the same time. They

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would always ask, well, why would God do this? But

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the people were sort of insinuating that God would never

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do it. It's like they're saying, don't tell me that

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God would do this, because he would never do this.

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Why would God do this? So it's a question and

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a statement. It's sort of they're sort of offering it

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as proof that what you're saying isn't true.

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Does that make sense?

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And there's a thread of panic in the voice too,

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because they know what the ramifications of this are, which

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are devastating. This is the most disruptive event in the

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entire church age, next to Jesus Christ showing up and

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then living a sinless life, being unrighteously killed for a

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substitutionary sacrifice, and then rising from the dead. Aside from that,

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this is the next most disruptive event.

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This is in my opinion, and.

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This so this revelation is too much for folks to

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bear because they worship the Book. Yeah, they have a

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form of godliness called Bookianity. I'm telling you, man, the

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KG the only narrative and the preserved word. Baptists are

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engaged in the most egregious biblical idolatry I have ever witnessed.

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I think that might have to be the title of

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this episode. Bookianity.

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Yeah, they're bookings. They're not Christians. I mean they love

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the book, man.

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They loved the book. Yeah, wow, love it.

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I love the book too. But you got to get

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your priorities straight, man, It's God's way bigger than the book. Yeah,

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but you know, if you step back and you think

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about what they're saying, at the core of that sentiment

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is the idea that because because this would be so

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disruptive and so devastating, God would never do it. So

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I call this the God is too nice doctrine. Now,

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when they say that, they don't realize that the Bible

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has recorded fourteen different times that God removed his word

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as a judgment in one way or another. So to say,

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you know that God would never do that is unbiblical.

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So the book discusses a lot of the cessationist lies

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and things that you know, they I don't bring these

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accusations in a vacuum because if I'm right, which I am,

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and the Bible's changing, then Heaven is bringing an indictment

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against the people that are using the book as a

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cudgel to keep God at arm's length. Yeah, because cessationism

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disparages that even mocks charismatic gifts of the spirit, and they,

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like I said, they misuse a lot of passages out

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of context which I cover, and a lot of unbiblical catchphrases.

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So I believe part of this is that God is

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striking at the heart of their power center the Bible.

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Man was not.

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Made for the Bible. The Bible was made for Man.

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God is way bigger than the book, right, But many

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church leaders have made the book bigger than God.

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It's like a it's a it's a misinterpretation of the

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Bible itself. Is that perfectly, as always, humans make it

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about them, right, when actually the book is about God.

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It's it's his story, right, It's his story, it's Jesus's story.

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We don't really have much to do with it, at

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least that's how I view it.

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So right, the book points to Jesus, and the preacher's

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point to the book, Yeah, they don't think they're doing

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anything wrong, but now of course they certainly are. And

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so you know, I don't claim to have all the answers,

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and I have the mind of Christ so clearly that

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I know this is why God's doing this. But after

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nine years of wrangling with God back and forth on this,

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I can tell you a pretty sure that this is

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one of the things He's after. And let me give

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you example. In a weekly message entitled Powerful Promises, John MacArthur,

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who is like the Baptist God is quoted as saying,

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if you came here to see a miracle, sorry, you're

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not going to see one. If you came here to

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hear the voice of God, or if you're thinking somewhere

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along the line you're going to hear God talk to you,

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you're not. If you came here to see God in

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some vision or some form, it won't happen. Well, that's

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messed up, man, that's really bad advice.

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Okay, it seems weird. And that's a quote, all right, Yeah,

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it seems really weird.

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Well, it reminded me of Matthew twenty three thirteen, where

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Jesus rebukes the Pharisees. He says, whoe to you, teachers

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of the law. You shut the door of the Kingdom

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of Heaven in people's faces. You yourselves don't enter, nor

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will you let those enter who are trying to. Well,

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that's exactly what he's doing. You want a miracle, No,

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I call it, no soup for you. I got a subject,

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no soup for you.

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You know.

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And in his mind, what his mind, He's trying to

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take a hard stand against the excesses of the charismatic movement.

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So they're gonna go over on the other side. Well,

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the pendulum has swung way the heck up here, and

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you're just like you're operating on peanut brain power, man,

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and it doesn't work that way. Don't work that way.

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This is a mystical religion. This is a this is

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a spiritual adventure full of mystery and prophetic stuff and

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miracles and that you can't sanitize that out of your Christians.

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But they're so good at sanitizing the supernatural side of Yeah,

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it's just they wipe it all the way.

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Well it's easier, you know that that first way is

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a lot less, you know, dealing with demons. You know,

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you start casting demons out of people in Sunday morning

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and they start throwing up balls of phlam. I've seen that,

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and you know I'm not gonna cut out. You know

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that's crazy town, man, But that's real, that's reality. I

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have a saying you can't separate the preaching of the

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gospel from the demonstration of the gospel. They're hand in hand. Yeah,

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but people are resistant to this. That's the first chapter.

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The resistance to change is chapter one. And they'll say

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things like, well, God's not the author of Confusion. Well,

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yeah he is. I know there's a passage that says that.

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he sent confusion into camps of the enemies a couple

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of times. And so it is biblical for God to

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do this. And as I mentioned, I got twenty five

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other reasons why it's biblical that God could do this,

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and there's no controversy.

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Yeah, it just seems like in this new book you're

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moving more from like evidence into interpretation m h. Which

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is which is pretty cool.

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Well, yeah, you got to ask yourself why, God Why?

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So that's you know, the main target of why that

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I have is this idea that the gifts of the

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So just God shut off the switch and now we

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just read about what he used to say, and uh,

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you have to kind of make it on your own

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without the divine enablement of the Holy Spirit. And it's

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a crime, you know, because people need what I call

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the goose grease of Christianity. You got to have the empowerment,

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you gotta have the joy being poured in. We're like

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we're like bags with holes in it We just constantly

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in need of being revived, and they've taken that away.

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I mean, it's a what I call a knuckle drag.

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That's what we used to call on sales, if you

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had to go cold calling. Yeah, we called it knuckle dragging.

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It's like apes dragging their knuckles, right, And that's what

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they've made the Christianity into, this lifeless misery that is

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just so impossible for most people. And I understand. I

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sat under Dave Wilkerson for ten years. I was on

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staff for ten years full time with Dave Wilkerson as

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a youth pastor and a worship leader, so he was

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the holiness preacher of holiness preachers. So I have that

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foundation and I'm not, you know, dissing the fear of

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God or a strict understanding that the gate is narrow

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and that most people are going to be shocked on

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judgment Day and be told, you know, I never knew you.

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So what has changed changed in your own understanding since

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your first book or your earliest research into this topic.

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Well, nothing, really. I knew when I wrote the second

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book that I was going to need to write this

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third one, so it really filled out the whole story,

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which my message is too pronged essentially to the church.

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It is, hey, this is happening, you can't ignore it.

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And then secondly, the reason that's happening is because you know,

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you've left off walking with the God of the Bible

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to walk to just study the Bible and Gods. I'm

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not happy with that. And he wants to restore the

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church to its former glory. It's first church glory where

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Acts nineteen it says Paul God worked strange and unusual

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miracles through the hands of Paul. Well, that didn't go away,

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dear soul, God still got the power turned on. The

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guy at the front of the room is lying to you.

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So that's really the message of this third book is that,

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you know, it's a not on my watch kind of

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a feeling. I'm not going to go, Well, what it

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is is this I've been handed this message that gives

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me a hammer of thor. I mean, what could you

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possibly say to the entire church to get them to

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start all the Baptists to start casting demons out of

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people on Sunday morning and speaking in tongues? Okay, what

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could you possibly say to them to get them to

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do that? Well, if I can convince a billion people

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that the Bible's supernaturally changing, God will take it from there. Okay,

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that will be the most disruptive thing that has ever

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happened to the church in the entire church age. It

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will dismantle the disease dysfunctional power structure. I see it

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as as a parasite that has wrapped itself around the bride,

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the church matrix, with all of its pageantry and its

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seeker sensitive tactics, or its whiteboard theology approach to telling you,

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you know, dissecting the randomness of the text down to

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the molecule. Okay, it's lifeless without the power. And God's

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coming in saying okay, well, since you've decided to leave

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off walking with me and then just study me, I'm

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going to take away the thing that's causing you to stumble.

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That's what God does all the time. Yeah, Jesus is

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called a stumbling boy, so it's very like him to

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do this, but you don't realize it when you're in it.

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I mean a lot of us woke up to our

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own Phariseeism in this thing where we realized we had exchanged,

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you know, kind of a prophetic heartfelt Mary type of

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thing Mary and Martha tells the story man that is

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like completely in a nutshell, what's going on? Mary? Chose

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the better part and see the KGV only the preserve

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word Baptists. I call him the doctrine police. Okay. They

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look at Mary, and they look at Mary like she's

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an uneducated ding dong. They don't. They have no idea

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what Mary brings to the table. She never cracks her

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KJB Bible for the love of Heaven, and she's destined

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to spin off into heresy and shipwrecking her faith because

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she's not constantly developing this sound doctrine. Yeah, okay, well

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guess what Mary was rebuked. I'm sorry, Martha was rebuked

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for her intense focus on out here out here. Okay,

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another way, Another perfect description of what the book is

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about is John chapter three, where Nicodemus sneaks out right

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he had enough sense to discern that Jesus had something

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that they were missing. Well, how does Jesus describe what

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they were missing? He says, well, Nick, it's like the wind. Okay,

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it's like you can't see the wind, you don't know

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where it's coming from. But He's like, Nick, you need

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to be born again.

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Man.

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You are you are all from the shoulders up man,

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and you're missing the whole thing, okay, because what it's

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all about your heart? And I imagine Nicodemus going back

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to his buddies, like, I wonder if Nicodemus actually got

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born again, right, And so he gets born again and

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then his Pharisee buddies are like, what do you mean

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you're gonna follow this guy? He's like, and Nicodemus is like, well,

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it's just it's it's just like the wind, you know.

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They're like, Nick and Davids, what are you talking about?

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So the cessationist doesn't understand prag and tongues, Okay, the

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IMF believer, I call him in an intellectual miracle freak

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believer absolutely goes goes apoplectic when you try to talk

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about the fact that prag and tongues is gibberish and

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there's a value in it and it's a biblical thing, right,

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because they look at it like on this from this

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intellectual high ground, like they understand theology and there's no

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sense in that. Well it's not supposed to make sense. Okay.

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Why does marching around the walls of Jericho for seven

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days and then on the set seventh day, march around

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seven times and then shout, why does that make sense?

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Or why does going over to the river across town

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and dip seven times?

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Make sense?

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So, no, God has always operated this way. And the

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Bible tells you that the spirit makes intercession with groanings

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that cannot be uttered. Well, that's an example of praying

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where your tongue is connected to your spirit, not your

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peanut brain, which is your biggest problem. And then praying

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in tongues develops this situation where your spirit man becomes

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in the ascendancy because right now your peanut brain is

460
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:48.279
in the ascendency, right And then Jesus described it like this,

461
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.359
out of your belly will flow rivers of living water.

462
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.640
So a way that you can understand this is like

463
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.440
the musician side of your brain and the accountant side

464
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:03.359
of your brain. Okay, the cessationianist and the imf believer

465
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.119
is all up in the accountant side, and there's a

466
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:11.759
value in that. I'm not dissing the Bible, okay, But

467
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.559
the musician side, the creative side, also has a value,

468
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.039
and it's been forsaken basically because that's where the dealings

469
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:27.160
of the heart take place, and the people prefer to

470
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:31.279
avoid that, and they don't want to be dealing with demons.

471
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.680
And I'll tell you another thing is that they don't

472
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.359
want to commit God publicly to pray for the sick

473
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.279
because it very often doesn't work and then they lose face.

474
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:48.799
So it's really pride not humility. So a lot of

475
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.759
the posturing of the cessationists is that they don't want

476
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:56.039
to be a bad testimony like the charismania. No no,

477
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:01.920
the charismatic people are the ones that are operating their faith. Okay,

478
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.440
God showed me this three years ago I started speaking

479
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:11.519
about it, about revival. I was in Toronto for almost

480
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:15.319
a year, three times a week twice. I was in

481
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.519
two hundred and fifty of those meetings in Toronto, which

482
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.119
if you bring that up to anybody in the church

483
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.759
to loah them barking like dogs place. No No, I

484
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.480
was there for a year and I never saw anybody

485
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.160
barking like dog. That was a radio broadcaster and Hank

486
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.920
Hanigraph that spread that propaganda and you're just regurgitating talking points. Okay,

487
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.680
I was there, Okay, it was heaven on Earth. Well,

488
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.000
I started preaching on it. I lost a third of

489
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:49.079
my followers people that donated right, But I kept going

490
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.720
and I was praying for the sick. Nothing happened for

491
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.000
a year, and then all of a sudden, I was

492
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.559
doing it and one of the listeners said I'm crying.

493
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.519
I was like why, and she goes, I just got healed.

494
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:01.680
Well.

495
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.200
From that point we started having miracles, and I have

496
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.760
about eleven now people that have made videos, and you

497
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.159
can see it on Altered Bible. There's a Miracle testimony

498
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:14.880
s tab. You can go watch the videos. I just

499
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.039
had another one. This one's unbelievable. This lady had mass

500
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:24.280
activation cell syndrome for six years. Her whole body and

501
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.280
her face is covered with lesions. It's all red. It's

502
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.000
like red like she's got the most incredible sunburn and

503
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.280
all puffe. She stumbled across my live stream somehow came

504
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.679
up on her feed and she received prayer two days later.

505
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.360
I've got a picture of her and her testimony. Her

506
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:47.239
face is completely normal. She couldn't eat anything except chicken

507
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.039
and broccoli and one other thing I forget, So she

508
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.800
went and ate cottage cheese and her husband's.

509
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.360
Like, what are you doing?

510
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.199
She took two little bites, right, well, she would have

511
00:34:59.239 --> 00:34:59.880
been an apple.

512
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.400
I forget what you call it, analytic shock or something

513
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:07.239
like that, anaphylactic.

514
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:10.239
Anaphylactic thank you. Well, two bites didn't do anything. She

515
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.119
ate an entire bowl of cottage cheese and nothing happened.

516
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:19.000
So she made herself a grilled cheese sandwich and nothing happened.

517
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.960
And that's three weeks ago. Now, okay, So what's my point?

518
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.559
What my book talks about is the lie. How cessatianists

519
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.079
lie about miracles. So if I'm talking to if you're

520
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.400
listening to me and you don't believe in any of

521
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:39.400
this stuff, how do you explain Laura Adams right, what's

522
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.039
your And this is what they'll say, Well, she's just exaggerating,

523
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.920
or she's paid by you, that's what they'll say, or

524
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.239
or they'll say that you know, she may have got healed,

525
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.119
but it won't last. I've heard that. Could you imagine

526
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.440
how that is so appalling? But then the I'm mary

527
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:06.199
one is that it's lying signs and wonders. Now, Jenny's

528
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.639
and Jambrie had the lying signs of wonders. They threw

529
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.199
the staffs down, they became snakes. But lying people that

530
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.320
propagate lying signs and wonders are not coming to you

531
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.480
in the name of Jesus first of all. And there's

532
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:24.719
another example an Acts where Simon the Saucer was doing

533
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:31.039
miracles right, and because the devil has powers, right, they

534
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.760
threw their staffs down they became snakes. But if you

535
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.000
read the account and Acts, what actually happened was when

536
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.159
the real believers showed up, they they preached the Gospel,

537
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.679
and the people that were deceived by Simon the Saucer

538
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.440
got born again, so they weren't saved right, and then

539
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.199
Simon gets born again. So this is one of the

540
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.199
real evils of the cessationist narrative, is that they have

541
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.280
are fearmongers and they have scared the body of Christ

542
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.360
into being cowards when it comes to the devil. They're

543
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.320
terrified to open themselves up to the Holy Spirit because

544
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.239
they think they're going to get possessed by.

545
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.840
Demons or because they have never been taught discernment.

546
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.360
Right. Well, doesn't say that the idea that the devil

547
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.760
could just run rough shot over an assembly of God's

548
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.760
people that are preaching the Word, that are worshiping Jesus

549
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.239
and God and then binding the devil and then somehow

550
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.280
the devil's going to roll over us, like you know, I.

551
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.000
Mean, it's it's because well it's so it's yeah, discernment.

552
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:54.519
But also these folks do not teach you know, your

553
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.679
your authority. They do not teach that our authority like

554
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.000
that we have authority over right, and they don't they

555
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.719
do not. I mean, I've been my dad was a

556
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.760
It's not something I talk about a lot, but my

557
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.480
dad was a was a pastor. My dad, you know,

558
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.960
went to all the seminary schooling and all the stuff.

559
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.880
And never once in my whole life that I was

560
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.960
in all the different churches and all the stuff right

561
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.679
that every kid in that situation goes through. Never once

562
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:37.840
did I hear about my authority. Never once. And my

563
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.400
authority meaning my authority in Jesus like that right as

564
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.679
the believer that I have authority over all these things.

565
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.000
So in turn, ever since I took that authority and

566
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.000
I believe it, and I walk that way, I don't

567
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.480
get messed with not saying that. I don't get attacked.

568
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.960
I do, but it doesn't affect me the same way.

569
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:09.360
It's like, and I found that it it definitely, uh

570
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.199
has lessened things because they don't have they don't have

571
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.440
the resources to screw with people like me and like you.

572
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:19.360
That's how I look at it.

573
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.320
No, it's all the whole universe works on law, and

574
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:26.000
it's basically you have to enforce the covenant with the

575
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:26.960
powers of darkness.

576
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.840
Yes, and so if I claim the authority, then they

577
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.880
you know, it's not going to run rough shout over me.

578
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:38.239
No, it's unbiblical to just brand people that are praying

579
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.239
for the sick and getting results as lying signs and wonders,

580
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.639
because how do you explain the miracle? If I'm praying

581
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.280
in the name of Jesus, the Bible says the curse

582
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.239
causeless doesn't come. And then like you said, Jesus goes

583
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.119
like this, all power and authority has been given unto

584
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.719
me go ye there, for that's the next statement. Well,

585
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.719
that's deputizing you to then take his already and go

586
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.199
exercise it. Right, Yeah, all right, Well if that's me,

587
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:08.239
I'm in this kind you know, assembly like the whole

588
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.400
church will tell you that the Toronto Airport revival was

589
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:16.599
Kundelini because people were falling over and shaking, right, which

590
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:20.440
is exactly what's described in every eyewitness account of every

591
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:27.079
revival going back thousand years. Jonathan Edwards describes it, Finny

592
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:35.599
describes it. John Wesley describes uncontrollable laughter. Right, So what

593
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.920
are they all in coming.

594
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.360
To Kundalini too? Right?

595
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.840
People just are caught up in these cessationist narratives and

596
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:51.159
they just repeat it. So you know what what God

597
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.079
was doing in that revival. And I cover the revival

598
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.320
in the book in detail my experience because I was

599
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:01.800
in two hundred and fifty meetings there. He's restoring the

600
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.519
childlike nature of his people. Because one of the chapters

601
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:11.440
I have is called spiritual professionalism, where a lot of

602
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:16.199
church leaders have adopted this idea that God wants to

603
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.760
decorum to be a certain way. It's supposed to be

604
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.360
decently in in order. But if you look at David,

605
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.440
David danced all out of his clothes and then Michael

606
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.840
rebukes him, telling him he was being undignified, and he

607
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.599
turned around and said, well, would be quiet. He said,

608
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.440
he was like, you have no idea what God has

609
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.360
done for me? And he said, he goes like this,

610
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.760
if you think that was undignified, I will do something

611
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.079
even more undignified. That's what he was basically saying. Right,

612
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.119
So we have this revelation of New Testament, revelation of

613
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:55.159
the Father in the prodigal son, because he was the

614
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.360
father that was waiting by the window and as soon

615
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.280
as he saw all the sun. So okay, So he's

616
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.199
not the ogre god hanging over you with a club,

617
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.079
waiting to you to fail and cast you to hell.

618
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.199
He's waiting for you to return to him. And as

619
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.320
soon as he broke the hill, right, he ran to

620
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.840
him and threw a ring and a robe on him,

621
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.800
and he threw a party. And this whole idea of

622
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:26.559
drunkenness is rebuked you. But you have a very clear

623
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.960
example in Acts two. Okay, so if the power hasn't

624
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.920
been shut off, which it hasn't, you do have a

625
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.760
biblical example of being drunk in the spirit. Because the

626
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.559
guy was like, hey, these people aren't drunk. Well why

627
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.920
would he say that if they didn't look drunk, they

628
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.360
appeared to be drunk. Well that's what it was like

629
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.599
in Toronto. And actually the church I go to here, Yeah,

630
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:56.360
it's drunkenness is awesome, man, It's the goose crease baby,

631
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.239
because think about it. When I was in Toronto. You

632
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.239
the line went way out to the street. You had

633
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.920
to get there an hour early. And when they opened

634
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.239
the doors, people would run to the front to get

635
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:11.280
a good seat. And when they opened the altars for pair,

636
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.840
people would run, okay, well are you running to church?

637
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.960
Do you run to the altar? And then there was testimonies. Okay,

638
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.039
every service they had testimonies, and there was at least

639
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.079
twenty to thirty people that would march across the stage

640
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:33.000
one after another. I had carpal tunnel. It was so

641
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.760
bad I couldn't write. I came here six weeks ago

642
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.760
and I have perfectly normal now. Next one, I had

643
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:42.679
open heart surgery, and now, I mean, it was just

644
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:47.719
it was unbelievable. It was really undeniable. You know, the

645
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.639
manifestations are definitely not what we're used to. But go

646
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.639
to Romans ten fifteen dot com and there's a website

647
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.920
there that has eyewitness accounts of Revive going back a

648
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.239
thousand years, and you'll read every eyewitness account almost the same.

649
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.760
It's what I call spiritual pandemonium. It's not decently in

650
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.119
an order like you would think. It's crazy. It's people

651
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:19.960
falling over it's people shaking, it's people screaming, crying out

652
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:25.199
uncontrollable laughter. And then many of them do have accounts

653
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:31.079
of people barking because they're getting delivered from demons. But

654
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.760
but there's another part of this that a lot of

655
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:38.760
church doesn't have a grid for, which is the prophetic. Okay,

656
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.880
I've already mentioned a couple. But God told Isaiah to

657
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:50.079
walk around with his ass uncovered for three years. Agabus

658
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.280
did this prophecy for Paul where he wrapped his hands

659
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.079
up like in a cloth or something. So all through

660
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.960
the Bible you see God telling his people to act

661
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.440
out prophecies, illustrated sermons.

662
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:06.960
And so.

663
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:12.320
Uh, there's a scripture in Isaiah, think or Jeremiah where

664
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:18.280
it says, my pastors or my leaders have forgotten how

665
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:23.360
to bark. So maybe the barking dog thing is a

666
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:29.400
rebuke to the church because they have sanitized the gospel

667
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.639
so much. He wants you to be telling people to

668
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:32.239
get healed.

669
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.519
I mean, like, if you look at it from a

670
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:41.079
spiritual warfare standpoint, I mean, what would be the goal

671
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:42.760
of changing scripture.

672
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.880
Well, I'll tell you what it is. It's like your

673
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.199
teenage kid who keeps talking back to you. You take

674
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:54.280
their cell phone away. Yeah, God is taking away the

675
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.880
thing that's being used to keep him out of his assemblies.

676
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.360
He wants to roll in and heal Sally of her

677
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.199
stage four cancer. But the church leader is terrified of

678
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.159
the spiritual pandemoni because he thinks that he's going to

679
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.000
lose people, which he will, okay, But for everyone that

680
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:19.679
leaves to will come into place. God is like, who

681
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:23.719
could build a house that can contain me? Lean not

682
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.039
to your own understanding, trust the Lord, and lean not

683
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:30.679
to your own understanding. There's all these passages where God

684
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.000
is like, guys, I know you got the Bible going

685
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.280
there and it can help you, all right. But it

686
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.519
says Ecclesiastes eleven to five, just as you cannot understand

687
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.320
the path of the wind or the mystery of a

688
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:48.079
tiny baby growing in its mother's wombs, so you cannot

689
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:53.039
understand the activity of God, who does all things. Roman's

690
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.199
eleven thirty three. How unsearchable are his judgments and his

691
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:02.599
ways are past finding out? Job eleven seven? Can'st thou

692
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:04.480
by searching find out God?

693
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:06.000
Well?

694
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.480
The answer is no. You can know God, but you

695
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:16.320
can't understand God. Psalms one five. His greatness is unsearchable.

696
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.719
And then, of course Isaiah fifty five eight, For as

697
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.639
the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my

698
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.320
ways higher than your ways. So the pride of Man

699
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:33.800
seeks to take the randomness of scripture and systematize it

700
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:38.480
into boxes so that you can feel more comfortable about God.

701
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.920
And they believe that if you understand God well enough,

702
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:46.199
eventually you'll understand it. It's sort of like gnosticism. They

703
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.920
accuse me of being in Gnosticism or the Full Gospel people,

704
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.000
and it's actually them because they're trying to build a

705
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:56.840
tower of babble, a tower of understanding when God is

706
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:00.840
clearly stated you can't understand me. I mean, it's going

707
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:06.159
to take all of eternity to have a revelation of

708
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:07.840
who He is unfolding.

709
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:09.639
Oh you know, every.

710
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.599
Eons of time will pass and you'll you'll be no

711
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.039
closer to understanding God than when you first got there.

712
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:25.480
So, like we live in world where words are constantly

713
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:32.679
being redefined, right, so is the Bible change phenomenon part

714
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.480
of that larger war over meaning?

715
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.079
Say that again, I just want to make sure to understand.

716
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.880
So like we we live in a you know stuff.

717
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.599
Words are constantly being redefined in our culture. Right, do

718
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:53.039
you think that the Bible change Like this Bible change

719
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:59.320
right is a phenomenon, alcoholic phenomenon, part of the larger

720
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.119
war over meaning.

721
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.920
If I understand the question, we do see themes that

722
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:11.320
are being that are changing in the Bible or being

723
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:16.480
introduced dark themes and things that are are are happening

724
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.920
in society, like the LBGT theme is coming up through

725
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:26.360
the scriptures, and then like I have three different scriptures

726
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:30.320
that talk about men breastfeeding. Yeah in the Bible, we

727
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.039
shared those last time. Yeah, well that's that's a big

728
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.079
theme in the in the society now. So yeah, they're

729
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:43.039
using this mechanism. However, they're doing it to craft a

730
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.760
Bible that is going to support their One World religion,

731
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.719
which is coming to a theater near you.

732
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:54.599
Yeah. So this is really about attacking scripture or or

733
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.800
is it about attacking people's confidence in God?

734
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:01.920
Well, the depends on who you're talking about. If it's

735
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.119
the devil, because we believe the Bible teaches that God

736
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.199
is allowing it, but the devil's doing it.

737
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.800
Yeah, Well, I mean which to me knowing my having

738
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.239
my understanding of how things are here, right, that would

739
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:25.199
make sense. Yeah, just because he he is, in essence

740
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.000
the ruler of this world. I don't like that name,

741
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:32.960
but either way, it's I guess it's a it's a

742
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.920
generic way to put it. He is, he is kind

743
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.480
of in charge of what is going on right now.

744
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:46.039
So well, I do have the two agendas. Satan's agenda

745
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.360
is first of all, to get you to crucify your conscience. Okay,

746
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.519
so if you're if you're a KJV only person, and

747
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:58.559
I ask you, the Lord blanks and the Lord blanks away,

748
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:03.480
and you say, the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away? Yep,

749
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.159
And then you go to job one twenty one and

750
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.800
it says the Lord gave and the Lord hath taken away.

751
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:15.519
If that doesn't knock you off your chair, then your

752
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:23.800
conscience is seared. Your doctrine is so important to you

753
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.159
that you can't You don't have a relationship with yourself anymore. Yeah,

754
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.840
that's like your child. That's like you wake up and

755
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.760
there's some strange kid in your kitchen eating rice crispies,

756
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.800
and you're like, who are you? And the kid says,

757
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.719
I'm your child? What do you mean, well, I'm like, no,

758
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.840
you're not my child. Well, Matthew seven to one, judge

759
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.960
not lest you be judged. And I tell that and

760
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.639
they give me the They say that, and then I

761
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.239
show them Matthew seven one and then they just go, oh, well,

762
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.599
I don't know the whole Bible or something like that.

763
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:02.280
So what they're doing is they're they're ignoring their intuition,

764
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.760
they're crucifying their conscience and the voice of God within them,

765
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.239
and it's killing them spiritually to deny this. That's what

766
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.920
the devil wants because then he's setting you up to

767
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.800
where the things will become more and more egregious, and

768
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.760
eventually he will use the things that are in there

769
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.360
to get you to accept you know, the mark or

770
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:34.519
whatever's coming. Right all right, now God's mission. God's purpose, though,

771
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.079
is what he did with Abraham, where he told Abraham

772
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.880
to do something really unimaginable. I want you to I

773
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.159
want because there's no precedent for that either. And you know,

774
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.480
Moses would later condemn child sacrifice, and Abraham knew this

775
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.599
was not right, but he had but see he knew

776
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:59.679
God right. So the question that God has is do

777
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.039
you know me or do you just know the book?

778
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:04.000
That's the question.

779
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.880
So what we learned from the Abraham event is that

780
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.599
God appears to be willing in rare occasions. God appears

781
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.000
to be willing to appear unrighteous to test the servants,

782
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:24.400
because he certainly appeared unrighteous to Abraham and Job too,

783
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.679
I mean, asked Job's wife. Yeah absolutely, Job's wife will

784
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.159
tell you that he was unrighteous, but he wasn't. So

785
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.480
here he comes again, Okay, here he comes allowing the

786
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.039
Bible to be changed. Where now you know I'm always

787
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:44.199
accused of calling God a liar, Well that's God's narrative.

788
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.119
You know, God knew that they would be like that.

789
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:48.920
But then God is saying you, well, no, I'm not

790
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.760
a liar. First of all, because I never promised you

791
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.480
that I would preserve the Bible. It doesn't say heaven

792
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:57.840
and earth will pass away, but my Bible will not

793
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:02.199
pass away. It doesn't say forever a lord, thy Bible

794
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:06.280
is forever settled in heaven. So God didn't promise you

795
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.800
to preserve the Bible. And when you go in there,

796
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.239
see what most people have never asked themselves is where

797
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.920
does God promise to preserve it?

798
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:17.760
See?

799
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.119
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my word will

800
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:24.519
not pass away. Doesn't tell you where it will be preserved.

801
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.280
You're only assuming it's going to be preserved on the book. Well,

802
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.239
that's one of my top proofs that this can happen,

803
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.960
because when you go in like I did, and you

804
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.480
look at all of the scriptures that you hold a

805
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:43.000
preservation promises, what you'll find is there's only a handful

806
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:47.440
of them which give you a jurisdiction, and all of

807
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.280
them are not the Bible. They're all your heart or

808
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.199
your mind, or Psalms one nineteen, which is Heaven, which

809
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.800
is not earth. It's not your Bible. The other ones

810
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:04.079
that promise have no jurisdiction. Okay, so this is an

811
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:08.360
example how my theology is more strict and more solo

812
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.719
scripture than the entire body of Christ's because I'm not

813
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:17.079
reading that into the text. You are, not me. Yeah,

814
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.760
it's really incredible. I couldn't believe it, just how rampant

815
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.639
this is. This cavalier kind of approach to these meanings

816
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.440
of words is and I was the same way. I

817
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:33.119
never thought about it. In fact, I had doctor Paul

818
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.039
graft and Holt on my interviewed him twice, and the

819
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.280
second time I interviewed him, I said, and now this

820
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.599
is a man that's written twenty theological books, many of

821
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.360
them were used in colleges as curriculum, and then he's

822
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:54.559
written he's got three theological degrees, including a PhD in theology.

823
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.480
So I said, doctor Holt, did it ever dawn on

824
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.480
you to ask or I think if the terms Bible,

825
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:03.519
scripture and word are synonymous?

826
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:04.320
And he said no.

827
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.519
And then I said, did it ever dawn on you

828
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.360
to ask where the Bible promises to preserve the word?

829
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:16.480
And he said no. And I never thought of it

830
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.599
either until I got into this. So you know, if

831
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:22.760
you're listening and you've never thought of asking where it

832
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:27.039
was preserved, or the idea that the term word doesn't

833
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:30.920
mean your Bible, because that's what everybody always does. If

834
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.320
you read the preservation promise, heaven and earth will pass away,

835
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:37.320
but my word will not pass away. What you're doing

836
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:42.800
is you're immediately and unconsciously converting the term word into

837
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.960
your KGV Bible in English on your coffee table. But

838
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.960
doesn't say that. And what you then do is you

839
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.360
go in and you look at the term word in

840
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.440
John one one and the word was God. Well, isn't

841
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.480
that a definition of the term word which is not

842
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:08.559
your Bible. If I say the word was God, I'm

843
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:12.559
clearly giving you a definition of what the term means.

844
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:18.039
Also Revelation nineteen. Hey see that guy over there on

845
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.440
the throne, his name is the Word of God. There's

846
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.960
two examples of where the Bible gives you a definition

847
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.440
of this term and it isn't the Bible.

848
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:29.639
Okay.

849
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.480
So now if you demand that the Bible can't change,

850
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.079
because you have these scriptures that are telling you that

851
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.760
the word can't change, what I'm saying is that it's

852
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.920
very possible that that promise isn't promising you that your

853
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:54.559
book is preserved it. And again, my interpretation is without assumption.

854
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.519
I'm going by the clear testimony of scripture and the

855
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.800
clear meaning of words. So I can't be accused of

856
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.480
being a heretic. I can only be refuted on my points,

857
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.000
point by point, and no one's come forward to do that.

858
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.519
What typically happens is when I corner them with the

859
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.280
evidence of unified misremembering, they freak out, They change the subject,

860
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.519
they call me a heretic, get angry.

861
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.239
And yeah, they hang out that's right. There is a

862
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.599
red flag period. I'm sorry, but if people get angry.

863
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:27.639
About it, you know, you're like, Okay, I mean I'm

864
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.519
looking more and more of this since, you know, since

865
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.360
meeting you and really delving into this stuff.

866
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:38.559
I'm looking more and more into this as it's just it.

867
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:46.239
It exposes giant cracks in our our teachings on belief

868
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.760
right and faith in general, and that too many people

869
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.719
are not that too many people do not have a

870
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.199
relationship with God or Jesus. And at the end of

871
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.760
the day, that's what this is all about. Right. I

872
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:07.400
also look at this as the enemy uses both sides

873
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.960
of this as a weapon. You got one side to ignore,

874
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.280
he's got one side to ignore it, and then the

875
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:17.639
other side to become obsessed with it. So that's a

876
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:23.960
great point, you know. So so you're you're getting you're getting,

877
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:27.440
You're giving them ammunition from both sides of this thing.

878
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:33.440
And I mean, how do we keep this topic from

879
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:34.599
becoming fear based?

880
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.639
Well, that's the purpose of the third Book is to

881
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.199
point you to the answer, to point you to the solution.

882
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:45.480
And of course this is a redemptive judgment, so it's

883
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:49.320
not punitive. It's a redemptive judgment to bring you back

884
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:54.119
into right relationship. Because what the IMF that's the intellectual

885
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:59.159
miracle free believer is doing, like I said, is the

886
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.679
Bible points to the person, but they keep pointing to

887
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.760
the books. So they'll hold the book up and they'll

888
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.880
say this book is the foundation of your faith.

889
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.440
Question on this like along this line, and it just

890
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.559
hit me. It's literally do you believe that some people

891
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.400
are spiritually blocked from seeing this?

892
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:19.920
Oh?

893
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.800
Yeah, it's definitely like when Jesus said, who de mens

894
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.519
I am? And Peter said, you're the son of Christ

895
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:29.079
and he goes like this, flesh and blood did not

896
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:32.000
reveal that to you, but my father, which is in heaven.

897
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:39.880
So this does require it's a heart thing, obviously, because

898
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:44.039
I sent an email to four hundred thousand pastors two

899
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.719
hundred thousand opens right, one hundred thousand clicks, and not

900
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:51.039
one of them reached out to me. So it's a

901
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:54.679
cover up too. Yeah, and I look at that. It's pure.

902
01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:59.960
Spiritual warfare, at least at the root.

903
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.119
I would say, you know this, this pointing to the

904
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.440
book instead of the person, though, is very common. But

905
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:11.800
one Corinthians three eleven says, for no other foundation can

906
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.639
anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus

907
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:19.239
Christ a person. And then Jesus told the Pharisees, you

908
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.880
search the scriptures for in them you think you find

909
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.960
eternal life. Well, if that doesn't describe the IMF believer,

910
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:28.719
I don't know what does. They're in the book trying

911
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:34.400
to find Jesus in the book, and they've essentially exchanged

912
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:42.440
encounter with study for a Bible study alone path. They've

913
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:46.440
sanitized all the encounter out. But if you think about

914
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.159
how misguided that is. Right, So, the only time we

915
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:56.480
have a recording where God preserved his decrees on indelible

916
01:01:56.519 --> 01:02:00.280
medium was when he wrote the Ten Commandments himself on

917
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.480
the tablets of stone, and now says tables by the way,

918
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:09.199
but it's changed, okay, So what that what that was

919
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.559
was a one off? Okay, So God put his decrees

920
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.719
on the on stone right. Well after that, God's like,

921
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.880
just write it on a napkin, right, All the other

922
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:24.280
decrees are scribbled on a napkin. Why, Well, you find

923
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.960
out in Acts seventeen twenty seven it says so that

924
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.239
so that they should seek the Lord in the hope

925
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.800
that they might grope for him and find him. No,

926
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:42.000
he's not far from each of us. So, because God

927
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:47.960
chose to have his decrees recorded on a vulnerable medium,

928
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.159
it's caused all kinds of chaos and problems and wars

929
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.639
and death and all kinds of stuff. Right, Well, why

930
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.880
did he do that? It's because He didn't want us

931
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.760
relying on our own intellect. He wanted us to be

932
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:05.119
dependent on him moment to moment for our guidance, for

933
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:09.840
our interaction, with enough knowledge to know him through the writings,

934
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.599
but not have it become the source of our support system.

935
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:15.119
Right.

936
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.280
And he even says, it's the glory of God to

937
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.039
conceal a matter, and it's the glory of kings to

938
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:26.800
seek it out. So this idea where I've approached these

939
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:31.360
KGV only especially folks, and they'll say, well, if the

940
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.559
Bible's not perfect and flawless, how can we even have

941
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:41.039
faith to know Christ? And I thought that seems really feeble,

942
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:43.960
Like your religion is really feeble, if that's what you think.

943
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.719
Because Enoch walked with God, he didn't have a Bible.

944
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:52.119
We didn't even get a Bible until like fifteen thirty seven.

945
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.199
We got the Tindale. So, how did people walk with God?

946
01:03:55.239 --> 01:04:01.679
According to you before fifteen thirty seven. Here's another God's

947
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.440
actions speak louder than his words. If you believe that

948
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.719
we've Adam and Eve was like six thousand years ago,

949
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.960
We've only had a Bible for seven percent of the

950
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:17.360
entire church age. So apparently apparently God is not as

951
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.119
worked up about us having a Bible as you, right,

952
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.119
because he would have gotten one to us a lot sooner.

953
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:26.079
Right. Yeah.

954
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:31.559
Wow, So this is an unfolding like when Peter when

955
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.719
Jesus rebuked the Pharisees because they were eating grain, and

956
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.559
he's like, the Lord, the Sabbath is not made for

957
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:39.880
the man. The man's made for the Sabbath. He's like,

958
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.199
you guys, got it backwards. And that's kind of where

959
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.639
God's taking us in these last moments. I mean, I

960
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.199
don't believe that we have a lot of time left.

961
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:51.039
Yeah, that's what I was just going to ask. What

962
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:52.199
time are we living in?

963
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.920
Oh, well, we're all into Satan's little season. As far

964
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.159
as I'm concerned, I think the evidence is overwhelming from

965
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.199
the Bible and from the empirical evidence that we are

966
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.119
in the period of time that Revelation talks about Revelation

967
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.760
twenty when Satan will be released again for a little

968
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:13.239
while to deceive the nations. And you got to study that.

969
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:15.159
You've got to go listen to the people that have

970
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:19.280
researched this. But it doesn't take long. And what I

971
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.320
hear most commonly from folks is this makes more what

972
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.320
I'm seeing on the world stage makes way more sense

973
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.960
if we're in the period of time after the tribulation,

974
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.360
so the millennia raint already happened, and then we're in

975
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:40.519
this little addendum. So the next thing on the eschatological

976
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.880
timeline is the Battle Ofgog and Magog, and that's the

977
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:43.599
big wrap up.

978
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:48.760
Yeah, yeah, I mean, which seems to be coming together.

979
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:52.599
It does a little bit. You know, I am a

980
01:05:52.639 --> 01:06:00.159
military strategist and the geo political analyst in a in

981
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:05.840
another life, right and uh my god, but uh, I mean,

982
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:08.960
I mean kind of heading towards the off ramp here.

983
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.199
What do you think Christians should do right now?

984
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:17.719
I would suggest, like I listen to the Puritans, like

985
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.480
try it once a day because they're talking to another language.

986
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:23.639
You listen to Jonathan Edwards stuff or any of those

987
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.079
Puritan guys, and they will put the fear.

988
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:26.960
Of God on you. Baby.

989
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.880
Right, So when you're scrolling and you you know, you

990
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.960
see some chicks coming up, you'll scroll past it because

991
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.519
you don't want to be like letting your eyes wander

992
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:41.119
and messing with your jonk. You know, you got to live. Celibate, Yeah,

993
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.239
you gotta live. You can't be looking at porn and masturbating. Okay,

994
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.119
let's just say it straight. You can't be like hating

995
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:52.760
people with unforgiveness. You got to get your money straight.

996
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:57.360
You gotta be have integrity. You can't be lying. Liars

997
01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.039
have their place in the lake. I mean, this is

998
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:03.239
really dairy stuff. We're into Bible. You know, the whole

999
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:06.599
once saved, always saved thing is such an offense. It's

1000
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:11.840
so contrary to who God is. And Jesus he said,

1001
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.719
don't fear him who can kill the body. I'll tell

1002
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:17.559
you who to fear. Fear me, Well, fear him who

1003
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:22.519
could cast your whole body and soul into Hell's that's dippy,

1004
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:24.039
dippy de Jesus loves you.

1005
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:25.880
That said that. Yeah, yeah, okay.

1006
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:31.039
And then living in the present is the biggest challenge

1007
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:35.880
for all of us because we're all miserable, right, because

1008
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:38.920
we're dragging all of this fear about what's coming from

1009
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:42.599
the future, or we're pulling up all of this shame

1010
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:47.880
regret from the past and hauling it into our now

1011
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.760
and living in just complete misery, wringing our hands. And

1012
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.719
so Jesus said, today has enough evil of its own,

1013
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:59.119
don't worry about tomorrow. And that's really the Buddhists, you know,

1014
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.639
their whole thing is just being present. Yeah, So practicing

1015
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:08.079
being present, having the fear of God and then figuring

1016
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.239
out where you can find someone that's on fire and

1017
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.039
get the fire of God on you.

1018
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:15.280
Yeah.

1019
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:23.800
Okay, So listen to Rodney Howard Brown videos or Riin

1020
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.720
Hart BANKI is on Fire or R. W.

1021
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:27.439
Shambach.

1022
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.680
Those are three great people to listen to, Okay, and

1023
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:39.319
they will detoxify you from your religion because religion hates

1024
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:44.920
the fire of God. Religion hates the Holy Spirit, hates him.

1025
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.960
That's the Pharisee set. He does these things by the

1026
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.079
power of beels above. So they're going to blame the

1027
01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:56.840
devil for what God is doing, which is unpardonable by

1028
01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:05.199
the way. Yeah, it's unable to say that what the

1029
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:07.720
Holy Spirit is doing is being done by the devil.

1030
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:11.920
It is unpardonable. It's the only thing that is called

1031
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:16.359
unpardonable in the entire Bible. Think about that, and you can't.

1032
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.520
I've looked at the commentaries. I've talked to people. There's

1033
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.600
there's really no ambiguity in what he's talking about, because

1034
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.600
it's just right there. He was. He was doing miracles.

1035
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.199
They told him he does those miracles by the power

1036
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.119
bills above. He said, that's impardonable. But the cessationists don't

1037
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:36.520
seem to care. They don't they don't care. They tell you.

1038
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:38.920
They tell me that all the time. I just had

1039
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:42.520
an encounter with somebody over on a chat board h

1040
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:45.960
discord chat board, and they told me I was a

1041
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.800
wolf and a deceiver because I'm praying for the sick

1042
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.399
and claiming people are getting healed and they're all lying

1043
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:55.520
signs and wonders. That's what they tell them. I'm like, okay,

1044
01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.800
whatever you say. I'm not praying mantrass to the harishi though,

1045
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.600
right right, I'm praying in the name.

1046
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.199
Of Jesus, right.

1047
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:11.640
So you know, I'll give you this nugget. This is

1048
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.439
a beauty. Because people are so terrified by the cessations.

1049
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.640
Don't go over to those glory realm stuff. You'll get

1050
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:23.880
lost in the mist, right, Uh, Jesus taught otherwise. Okay.

1051
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:27.800
What Jesus said is if your father, being earthly, gives

1052
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:31.760
you good gifts, how much more will your heavenly Father

1053
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.159
give the Holy Spirit? To them that ask if you

1054
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:38.159
ask for bread, will you give you a stone? The

1055
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:42.840
rhetorical answer is no, okay, So that whole fear mongering

1056
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:48.039
narrative is a lie. Jesus said the opposite. Jesus said,

1057
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.479
if you lift your hands during a prayer and they

1058
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.399
pray for you to receive the Holy Spirit, you're not

1059
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.279
gonna receive kundalini or a demon spirit.

1060
01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:58.079
Right.

1061
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:02.800
God's gonna protect you. If you ask your Father for bread,

1062
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.079
does he give you a scorpion? And if you ask

1063
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.079
the whole Father for the Holy Spirit? Okay, you get it. Okay,

1064
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:15.560
So just it's bad advice. Stop listening to Justin Peters

1065
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:20.720
and the John Macarthurs of the world. They're wrong, they're deceived. Yeah,

1066
01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:23.159
they're good, they know the Bible. I listen to some

1067
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:25.199
of the stuff that they say, and it's awesome. I

1068
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:30.199
come under conviction. Okay, but they are telling you to

1069
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:35.560
forsake the fountain that will feed you that side of

1070
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:39.319
you that needs to be fed, and that's wrong.

1071
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:46.319
Yeah. Tell people where they can find your books and

1072
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:47.439
website again.

1073
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:53.359
Yeah, Altered Bible dot com and wakeupor Else dot com.

1074
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.840
And then every Saturday at seven I do a live

1075
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:01.880
stream on YouTube. It's also on rumble x, Facebook and

1076
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:07.039
bit shoot oh the places, Yeah, but most of us

1077
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:09.920
are on YouTube. And then we do that seven pm

1078
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:15.439
Eastern on Saturdays, center around the what's that?

1079
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.119
What was it? Again? On YouTube?

1080
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:22.800
It's one word wake Up or Else? And uh, you

1081
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:25.199
know we do. I do a lot of topical stuff,

1082
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:30.159
mostly on Bible changes, but current events, you know, short

1083
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:32.800
little videos we talk about stuff that's out there right now.

1084
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:35.920
But then at the end we put the worship music

1085
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.199
on them. We begin to believe God for miracles. Yeah,

1086
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:43.079
so if you need a miracle, come on out.

1087
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.680
Don't we all we do, babe? Yeah for sure. I

1088
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:49.800
So last question though, if someone is listening right now,

1089
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:55.079
are watching and they feel that like uncomfortable tug that

1090
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.960
says I need to look into this, where should they begin?

1091
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.079
Because it's one thing for you to say all this,

1092
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.279
but like where do they really begin?

1093
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.239
Are you talking about looking into the Bible changes?

1094
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:14.079
Yeah, and and just everything that your whole this culmination

1095
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.079
of these last three episodes, like where where do what's

1096
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.520
the good real good starting point?

1097
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:25.520
Uh? Well, my books are of course I've codified at

1098
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.119
all in the book. So the first book is on

1099
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:31.199
all the conspiracy theories. Well, that book is really for

1100
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:34.000
the person that already believes the moon landing is fake

1101
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.079
and the earth is flat, but your spouse and your

1102
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.760
kids don't, Like three of my four kids don't really

1103
01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:42.399
even talk to me because they mom's convinced them that

1104
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:48.079
I'm absolutely berserk. But I have a great relationship with one.

1105
01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:51.800
So that's that's like for you. And then the second

1106
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:54.000
book is all about the Bible changes. And the third

1107
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:55.319
one is going to be out in about a week

1108
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:58.000
or two. That'll be about why it's changing and the

1109
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.039
whole cessationist thing. But then I've got a lot of

1110
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:06.880
videos and an educational docs section which you can go

1111
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.680
through and get a lot of insight there as well.

1112
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:10.680
Perfect.

1113
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:17.520
Yep, John, It's always a pleasure, hey man, me as well.

1114
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:20.319
Dett Bennett, thank you so much for these great interviews.

1115
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:21.720
I can't wait till they come out. I'll be sure

1116
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.439
to post them up on our channels as.

1117
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:28.079
Well, absolutely, and I'll share them with you so we

1118
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:29.399
won't be in touch you.

1119
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:32.119
Bet man, Thanks again, great, thanks for listening.

1120
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:55.880
Guys. Take care it's owing. That's a question something not

1121
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.399
to look too close. Said.

1122
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.039
The walls were made of doctrin, but I could.

1123
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.640
Feel the room was ghosted.

1124
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:08.039
They held the pages like a weapon, wasted higher than

1125
01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:08.960
the thrown.

1126
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:14.039
The thing was never savior in the paper, lad alone,

1127
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.000
I heard a whisper.

1128
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:19.960
In the static. I saw a facture in the line.

1129
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:26.079
Not every holy looking temple has the spirit still inside.

1130
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.199
And the lamp stands cool.

1131
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:34.720
Word you even know if the veil was stone, why.

1132
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:42.039
Are you still saw, says tad work without the fire.

1133
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:46.640
You built a change around the chaine and called the

1134
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.960
bars and spins.

1135
01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.199
A romade down a stone.

1136
01:15:55.159 --> 01:16:00.319
But the word was never trapped in the words.

1137
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:01.640
A sham boone.

1138
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:06.720
The shembe for shen b.

1139
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:14.359
They said the signs.

1140
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:18.239
Were over, said the miracles were lies.

1141
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:20.960
But they never sought us power.

1142
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:22.800
They just taught us out a hug.

1143
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:28.880
So we traded oil for arguments, traded fire for control.

1144
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:34.880
Memorize the map to heaven while we start inside our souls.

1145
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:38.239
But I have seen a sick life back. I have

1146
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:43.359
heard the demon scream. I watch the brown man's trample.

1147
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:48.159
When the spirit hits the scene. And if the winds still,

1148
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:52.000
why are you window seal?

1149
01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:56.520
If the grave is anty, why do you kneel.

1150
01:16:56.359 --> 01:17:03.319
To watch your face says looking ten words without the fire.

1151
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:07.479
You build a change around the chain and call the

1152
01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:09.159
bars inspire.

1153
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:14.840
This is bookad, a thrown laid down of stone.

1154
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.600
But the word was never trapped in age.

1155
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:31.600
Old word has flesh and bone, flesh and bone less bone.

1156
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:37.720
Change the times, change the laws, twist the tongue, disguise

1157
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:40.359
the cause, makes them doubt what.

1158
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:44.000
They recall, make them vow before the wall.

1159
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.880
But I will not worship pages.

1160
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:49.439
I will not bear the night.

1161
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:55.319
The scripture voints me to the Savior and the Sagas.

1162
01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:01.000
You can sack the princisadders, you'll get fraction very line,

1163
01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:06.279
But you cannot kill the lion who was coming. Brackett

1164
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:21.720
fun not the buck up basuck chain.

1165
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:27.760
Not thus some over spirit, not the open over power,

1166
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:29.920
not the pro bo.

1167
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:36.239
I know my shipper, so I signed up my father's hand,

1168
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:39.439
and I know we're made clashion.

1169
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.840
I don't know the dad.

1170
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:50.079
This is okaday. Dead words without the fire.

1171
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You build a change around a change called the bars.

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This fire, this is.

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Okay, throw me out of stone. But the word was

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never threatening.

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The word as last side ball.

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This is talking. Your tour starts to fall in the

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living jod walks in the rooms, does not.

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The sure wall, sush and bone, fire and throne.

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The word has a lie.

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Word is a