May 13, 2025

Stolen Seed: The Alien Abduction Agenda They Don’t Want You to Know – w/ Karin Wilkinson

Stolen Seed: The Alien Abduction Agenda They Don’t Want You to Know – w/ Karin Wilkinson
Stolen Seed: The Alien Abduction Agenda They Don’t Want You to Know – w/ Karin Wilkinson
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Stolen Seed: The Alien Abduction Agenda They Don’t Want You to Know – w/ Karin Wilkinson
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In this gripping episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Bennett sits down with Karin Wilkinson, author of Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest, to unravel one of the most chilling and overlooked aspects of the alien abduction phenomenon. Karin doesn't just claim to be an abductee—she’s a survivor of an interdimensional agenda that blends invasive alien encounters with deeply spiritual consequences. We dive into Karin’s firsthand experiences, including harrowing abductions, genetic experimentation, and the stark realization that this phenomenon is more than physical—it’s spiritual. Karin courageously shares how she broke free from years of torment, the role her faith played in reclaiming her life, and why she believes the abduction narrative is part of a larger war for the soul of humanity. This episode covers:

  • The truth behind hybridization programs
  • Why some abductees feel spiritually violated
  • The role of Jesus Christ in her liberation from alien torment
  • Connections between ancient texts, fallen angels, and the modern UFO narrative
  • The disturbing silence of mainstream disclosure when it comes to the darker aspects of abductions
If you’ve ever suspected that UFOs and spiritual warfare are part of the same playbook, this is the conversation you’ve been waiting for. 🔍 Karin’s Website:https://karinwilkinsonauthor.com
📕 Book: Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest – available now 👽 Faith, fear, and freedom collide in this episode of Broadcasting Seeds. Don’t miss it.

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Alright, we're here with Karen Wilkerson Wilkinson. Sorry Wilkinson. So Karen,

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introduce yourself and tell us what you do and where

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we can find you.

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Well, well, thank you so much, Bennette. It's just such

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an honor to be here with you today. Love your show,

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big fan. I am the author of a book, Stolen Seed,

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Evil Harvest. Not something I ever thought I would do,

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not something I expected or intended to do, you know,

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and God laughs as they say, and that's what happened

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in this case. You know, I'm an ex tech person

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and mom, grandma, that kind of stuff, just your everyday

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average go next door and who happens to have been

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interacting taken by had experiences with non human alien entities

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my whole life, and it sounds really crazy to some people,

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but it is something that has happened to more people

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than you can imagine. And probably you're a person, your

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neighbor next door, if not you, was what I'm finding

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out having done this. So I started this journey working

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with La Marzouli a couple of years ago, was a

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part of his documentary on the abduction phenomenon, and from

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there realized so many people wanted to talk to me

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about it after that, and it was really scary. I

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didn't I didn't expect that so many people would want

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to talk about this. I really thought it was such

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a taboo subject. There's so much stigma out out there

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about this, but so many people wanted to talk about it,

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and he encouraged me to write this book, which I

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wrote very quickly. It's very easy to write the truth.

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It's very easy when you're just writing what happened and

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so and I really felt like I had a lot

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of guidance from God on this, and I thought to

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speakiritual guidance and just put this book out there. And

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since then, I've just been able to work with talk

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to meet with so many people, people who've had similar experiences,

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hearing from people who've said, I just read my life story,

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or people who say I finally feel like I'm not alone,

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or it's so refreshing that someone has written about the

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UAPs UFOs non human alien entities from a biblical perspective,

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because there's so much out there and so much has

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been written, and the market is just flooded with this

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kind of information, but not from a biblical perspective, not

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explaining who and what these things are their origins. You know,

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people like Vicky Joy Anderson and myself will dig into

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some of the ancient origins of things, and we'll dig

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into the not you know, just that, but into the

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biblical origins, because that's where everything always leads back and

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what the explanations are and where it's from. And that's

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what was really lacking in this field, was someone to explain,

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these are the things they don't want to teach you

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in church, you know. And if someone had taught me

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these things when I first was found my faith and

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born again at about eighteen, I might have been able

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to stop this from happening to me. But nobody taught

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these things to me in the churches I went to.

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So this has really been an exciting journey, an interesting journey,

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sometimes scary. There are a lot of people who don't

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want to talk about this. It's not always a popular topic.

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There is still a lot of stigma out there, but

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it's been fascinating. And sorry, that is a very long

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winded the introduction of who I am, But in a nutshell,

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I'm just your everyday, average person who had some extraordinary

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experiences and lived to tell about them.

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Yeah, now amazing. Sorry, yeah, so basically ever since. So

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just to talk about stigma, Yeah, I get it, being

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a veteran, being a child, product of childhood abuse and trauma,

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there's so much of this stuff you just can't you

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couldn't really talk about and now even just it's so

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much better now than it used to be. The stigma is.

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It's not gone by any stretch of imagination, but it's

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way better. And that's something that I've seen that's super

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therapeutic to folks is just being able to have or

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having places like this to tell their story.

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Right, Yes, exactly.

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It's a game changer, it is.

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And I'm not a therapist. I'm not in any way,

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shape or form, but people want to share their experiences

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with me because they have never been able to share

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those in a safe and ironment before, because it can't

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go to a therapist.

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With it because of their zero judgment.

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Yeah, no judgment. And yeah, I'm not here to say

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I believe someone or not. I'm here to listen with

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an open mind and an open heart, knowing that what

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happened to me is extraordinary and hard for some to believe.

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And I don't want anyone else to feel that kind

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of judgment and the pain that goes along with that

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when you know what's happened to you, you know, and

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there's no benefit in telling this story except to help others,

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because most people just there still is so much stigma

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out there. As a matter of fact, they wrote last

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month for La Mar's Police newsletter. Vicki Joy Anderson and

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I both write for that and so many other wonderful authors.

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So if anyone out there wants a great inexpensive newsletter,

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I think it's like two dollars a month and we

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get tons of amazing authors in there. I wrote about stigma.

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What is stigma, you know, and what are the definitions

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of it? And where does it come from? And how

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does it affect people, because it really does hurt people,

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and whether it's the UAP or the military, or abuse

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or so many different things where the stigma just is

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out there and it causes people to make snap judgments

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instead of really looking at the person and what they've

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been through and the healing and the love that they need.

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It's really unfortunate, and so I thought it was important

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to write about that and how we can help kind

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of remove some of the stigmas out there, not just

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about this, but about all kinds of things.

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Absolutely, So, I mean I know your background, but I

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don't know if my audience does so. But you've given

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your your your bio. But I'm just going to give

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you just a couple of questions. It's kind of starting

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from the beginning a little bit. Is I know that

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this has been going on like your entire life, right, so,

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but what was like, what was the first moment that

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you realized something unusual was happening in your life?

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Yeah? You know, it's so hard to say, because it

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was happening from my very earliest memories. And for me,

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I don't even know if I knew it was unusual.

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I just knew it was scary because it was always happening,

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and I didn't have any basis for comparison for it

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not happening. So when it's always there, while it may

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seem normal, it is still traumatizing and scary and and difficult.

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And so I remember being a very young child, two

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three years old and being terrified of, you know, certain

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family members because they had they were tall and fair

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skinned and fair haired and fair eyed, and they looked

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like these Nordic entities that I had already been encountering

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as a very small child. And when you're a little kid,

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you don't make those differences that, oh, that's a human

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and that's not. They just look similar. So when a

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little kid's scared of a clown, they're going to be

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scared of all clowns. Like my daughter was scared of

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anything in costume, you know, and no matter what kind

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of costume it could have been, the grocery store guy

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dressed as a grocery bag or a bunny or whatever.

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We had to get out of there if she saw that.

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And for me, it was the same kind of thing,

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you know, anything that was similar scared me as a

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little little child. And then, you know, when I was

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old enough to know, around five or six years old,

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that I didn't want to be there, but I didn't

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have a choice, and I was scared and I didn't

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want them to take me, and I started trying to

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find places to hide and realizing at that point that

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I couldn't get away from them. That's when I realized

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this is unusual. Because I started trying to talk to people,

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anyone who would listen. I was drawing pictures as a

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matter of fact, I don't have it up here with me.

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I found a picture I drew the other day when

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I was probably four or five years old, showing what

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was happening to me, drawing their eyes, drawing the spirals

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going in and out, and this one says too, and

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this one says from and I'm trying to show what's

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happening is best I can as a five year old,

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not knowing what I'm experiencing. I looked at that picture

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the other day, I'm like, oh my gosh, I actually

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drew out what was happening. But and they didn't want

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me to talk, and then they threatened me with her

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harming my family and my loved ones if I talked.

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And that's when I knew that it was not normal,

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when it wasn't okay, And then I was stuck in

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something really difficult. And that's when I kind of created

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this kind of two personalities. It wasn't a split personality.

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It's just that I, you know, created a protective part

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of me that did that was there when these things happened,

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you know it, and then the part of me that

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just was there for everyday life, and you know, and

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it's called dissociative personality disorder, I think, and it was

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a great way for protecting I think God blesses us

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with things like that to protect our hearts, protect our minds.

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And in doing so, I was able to so completely

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just kind of detach from them when they would take me,

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which is why I think I have as many memories

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as I do, because when I wasn't emotionally interacting with them,

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they weren't having to block my memories because I was

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just not even there. But I was there, and I

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was remembering, and I was, you know, keeping track of

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some of what happened. I don't remember everything, but I

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do remember quite a bit of what happened. And what

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I've learned from talking with other former abductees and experiencers

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is that those of us who dissociated early in life

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do have more memories than those who didn't because we

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were able to separate, and I think that that affected

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their ability to wipe our memories somehow.

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Yeah, Yeah, And I got that a lot, and it

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took a lot of research on my part talking to

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other abductee is transfigre what's different about us? Why do

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we remember? And the one thing that kept coming up

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was that we associated very early in life. And when

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you think about that, if you're just not present, how

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can somebody you know affect you emotionally mentally and kind

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of wipe your memory if you're not even present for that,

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even though you're still there. And so, and that's something

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I'll write about more in the next book that I'm

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working on now. I don't want to give too much

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away on that either.

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Yeah, but that makes this pretty interesting that the earlier

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you are able to dissociate and compartmentalize this, right, yea,

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the more you can.

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Remember exactly exactly. And so that affected it quite a bit.

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And but yeah, so at that point I knew, you know,

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this wasn't right, and it was terrifying, you know, I

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would I was taken against my will. I mean, I

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would wake up in the middle of the night and

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just feel evil, like an evil presence in the room.

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I could feel it before I would see it. Some

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times there'd be lights and coming through windows. Sometimes I'd

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notice something outside a window. Sometimes i'd see one of

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the typical grays outside a window, or they would be

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in the room with me, A typical what people typically

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talk about seeing it's the big bulbous head with the

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big black screen eyes. And these grays are different from

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the other ones that I encountered. These grays that would

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show up to get me, their eyes didn't move, they

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looked like it's just a big black screen, and their

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necks were really thin. They were shorter, like four feet tall.

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Maybe some of them didn't smell very good at all.

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a very bad odor, like sulfur, dead animal excrement. You're

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in kind of just different, you know, it's hard to

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pinpoint it. It was a really awful smell, and I

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have a lot of theories behind that too. I write

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a little bit about that, and I will be writing

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more about that too, and I've written about it in

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LA's newsletter. But I think that you know what these

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things are, and I can talk about that more later

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because I don't want to get too far off track

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from what I was talking about now. But they would

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show up in my room at least two sometimes more

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and put me into a state of waking paralysis, so

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I was wide awake. I would if I tried to scream,

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no one would hear me. Anyone else there if there's

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someone else in the room or the house would be

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in just a state of just passed out, kind of

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like you couldn't rouse them and couldn't wake them if

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it was a sibling or at the you know, later

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in life, if I was with a husband or something,

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and they would levitate me off the bed and through

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a closed window or through a ceiling. And it sounds

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so strange, but you know, I like how doctor David

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Jacobs refers to it. We're dealing with things called future

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physics here where. Just because we don't understand how it

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works doesn't mean it doesn't work. I mean, I was

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exposed to so many things throughout my lifetime that didn't

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make sense to me as a small child. But later

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in life I saw come to fruition, things like rooms

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that were nothing but video screens, and today we have

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that things that seemed like at the time impossible, but

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today with a pair of VR goggles, I'm experiencing the

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same thing, which is why I do not like using those,

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you know, things that they were doing with me or

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showing me that was so far beyond our tech at

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the time. You know, screens that appeared and disappeared and

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they would you know, utilize just all these you know,

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and the mind speak and things that just didn't make

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sense at the time to me as a child because

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we didn't have those kinds of things anything. I didn't

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have any basis for comparison. You know, we had three channels, four, six, ten,

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and then sometimes PBS would show up on the U

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channel or thirteen or whatever it was, but we just

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didn't have, you know, anything like that. And I didn't

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have TV shows or anything, you know, or podcasts or

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YouTube anything to figure out what was happening to me either.

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You know, even as I was growing up, there was

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no basis for for me to figure out what was

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going on. People talked about UFOs back then, and you know,

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there were you know, some weird things going on, but

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it wasn't like what we have today. And then even

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once we did have shows, I could never watch the shows.

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I couldn't It was so triggering and so difficult when

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before I was able to work through what's happened to me.

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I couldn't watch a show, I couldn't watch a movie.

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I couldn't read a book about it. I couldn't I

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couldn't go anywhere near it because I would have nightmares

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or I felt like that would just summon them back

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to me, and so I just the more shut down

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I was, the better. Obviously, you know, it's not that

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way now now I know that they can't touch me.

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But for the longest time, I didn't know that, and

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I didn't know how to keep them away. So it

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was a terrifying life. I mean, I couldn't even look

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out the window at night for most of my life,

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you know, for or that one of them will be there,

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because they so often were and they're terrifying. When Whitley

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Streeper's book came out, oh my goodness, I remember seeing

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that book across the bookstore I think of Barnes and

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Noble or whatever it was at the time. Oh, and

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just having a panic attack because I'd never seen a

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picture of one that was and they didn't look just

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like that, but it was close enough, you know, right

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that it was just terrifying to see. And I've since

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heard a lot of people have reactions like that to

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that book, so you know, it was it was something

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that it was time for something that got to come

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out so that people. I think it triggered a lot

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of people to a lot of people's memories too.

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Man, Yeah, it.

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Was so interesting.

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Yeah for sure. So do you believe the entities that

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you encountered? So it was always the little grays that

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came and got.

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You right when the ones who would be like in

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the room or transporting were always the little grays. And

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I believe they are some kind of an avatar, like

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a created entity La Margilie likes to call my meat suit.

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I believe that I believe that they're created to be

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here in our atmosphere to do the traveling, to do

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the pickups. I do believe that they could be inhabited

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by AI, they could be inhabited by another entity. I

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personally believe most of them are inhabited by demonic entities.

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Demons to me are the disembodied spirits of the deceased nepheline,

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which I think your audience is pretty familiar with Nepheline,

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so I shouldn't have to go Okay, I won't go

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down that road. But so that's what I really think

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are inhabiting them. And I've had some opposition to that, say, well,

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demons are hard, you know, they spew terrible length glige

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in there and pillage and murder and all that stuff,

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and like, do they do they all? Are they all

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the same? Was every definitely in the same or don't

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we know from historical reference that they all had different personalities?

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And these are in a very constricted avatar suit. These grays,

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their mouths did not open, their bodies were very frail.

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They were designed to be traveling. They were designed to

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be in our atmosphere. They weren't designed to rape and

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pillage and murder and killing steelers. They were designed for

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a job. And what we do know biblically is that

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demons want to inhabit something. From the you know, way back,

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people would build statues for them to inhabit. When Jesus

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cast them out of the man, they asked to be

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sent into the pigs because they wanted to be in something.

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So this gives them something to house them. And also,

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if we have crashed craft, which you know we do,

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when they get those biologics, those non human biologics, all

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they're going to get is an empty meat suit. And

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you know, my theory on that too is these suits

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are created using tissue that's collected from humans, from the

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cattle mutilations. There are also human mutilations. You don't hear

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much about that, but they do exist. They have happened,

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just the same as with the cattle, the sheep, other animals.

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And they utilize these materials and these tissues for many

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different things, one for embryonic use and one I think

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also for use for these grades that they create, among

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other things. And again that's something I'll need to cover

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more fully in the next book as well, because I've

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had a lot of questions about that and the things

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that I talk about and the things I'm going to

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write about in the next one. I'm not trying to

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sell a next book, don't get me wrong, it's just

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when people ask these questions, I want to provide as

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much information as I can, and you'll hear about it

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in the you know, when I'm talking to someone, I'm

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not trying to hold that information pack, but people like

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a little more detail on I'm like, I will provide that,

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you know. I want to make sure I can provide

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as much detail as I can for everyone because there's

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so many misconceptions out there about who and what these

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things are. You know, I don't believe in the plurality

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of worlds. I do not believe these things are from

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Zeta Reticular or Alfice, Centuria, or some other planet. I

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do think they could, right. I think that they can

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travel extraterrestrially. But I really believe they are interdimensional. Our

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government believes that anyone who's had any in any experience

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with them knows that they are interdimensional entities. They are

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entities that have been around far longer than we have.

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They can travel space, time and ways we can only

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we can't even fathom. You know, they can see ahead

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and behind in time. We know this biblically. You know,

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why have you come first before our time? They said

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to Jesus. They know what some of the few she

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looks like. They know the Bible better than we do.

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They know us, they know our personalities, they know our

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psyche better than we do. And when people are out

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there calling these things and summoning these things, with things

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like CE five, it terrifies me because we are so

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out of our depth, we are so out of our league.

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We're doing a few things, and if we couldn't call

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on God, if we couldn't call on Jesus to get

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us out of these situations, to get them away from us,

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we would have no chance honestly, we are not a

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superior being to them. He is. God is because he's

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a creator of all and that's the only reason I

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was able to get away from him. But yeah, these

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entities are, I believe, the fallen, the fallen angels, the

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ones that you know, you've spoken about on the show before,

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you know, and there are different ones that fell for

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different reasons and did different things. And we know this

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from the books of the Bible and the extra canonical

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books of the Bible, and from historical references and historical

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records that aren't the Christian Bible. But throughout all races, creeds, religions, countries, everywhere,

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there are records of this all over the world, you know.

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And so there's just so much that is misinterpreted about

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who and what these things are. It's very easy to say, oh,

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they come from space. How do you know that? How

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do you know that because one person said, oh, I

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got taken and they told me this is where they

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were from. Do you know if they were telling you

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the truth? Would you know if they were telling you

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the truth? Was that person telling you the truth? They

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might have been told to lie by the entities, you know,

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So how do you know how do you know?

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You don't.

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And those of us who have been taken, Oh, we've

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seen things and experienced things that don't make sense because

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it's so far outside of the little square that we

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live in. That's these three dimensions of life that we

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are in, you know, and it doesn't fit. It doesn't

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fit in our little world, you know, and then we

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try to make it fit, so we come up with

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these examples. So it's like star trek, you know, they're

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going from here to there. No, it's not, it's not

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at all like that. Maybe the part where they transport,

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you know, that might be, but you know, no, it's

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just so different. So yeah, I have a lot of.

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How did like your Christian faith influence your understanding, like

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this is the abduction phenomenon, and did you see it

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as part of a larger spiritual war? Do you?

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I didn't. Initially. Initially I did not see any connection

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at all because I wasn't taught my Bible in the churches.

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I was taught the fun parts of the Bible, the easy,

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the pretty parts, the parts to get uts and pews,

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the parts that make you come back and feel good

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about life and happy. And now God wants you to

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go make some money and have a great life and

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be happy and fun and all this you know, and

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suffer and all the things. But you know what I mean,

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follow the ten comman'ment still home. Have a great day.

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We'll see you in a week. And when God opened

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my eyes to the Bible and brought the right people

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into my life, and it happened very in a very

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unusual way. I had a experience with surgery where I

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died on the table. And I know near death experiences.

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I call it in near life experience because I didn't die.

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You know, man is appointed to dialing once but I God,

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I heard his voice. He said, it's okay, you can

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let go now. He snatched me on my body. I

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watched everything I could see what was happening in all

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these different rooms. I felt the most incredible love and

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peace that beyond all understanding. I knew I was with him.

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I knew I was safe. I had no questions, no fears,

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no nothing. I was right there, very close to my body,

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and when it was time, I was right back in.

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It was there was no I didn't go anywhere weird.

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I didn't see Grandma, I didn't hang out with my dog.

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I didn't, you know, it was just it was just

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the most peace and love. But what I got from

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it was this understanding of you know, the body, the spirit,

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the soul or very different things, and he loves us

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so much and we do go on and this is

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just our earthly vessel, you know, and it's so constricting

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and we know so little we know now thing, you know,

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coming out of that realizing I always knew that I

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didn't know, and that we just don't know much about anything.

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And I came out of that realizing I know even

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less than the nothing I thought I knew.

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You know.

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It was such a humbling experience and that just led

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me at first kind of I really opened up and

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studied almost every religion there was. I went down some

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New Age paths, and then I realized I'm not a

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00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.680
co creator and this you can be a co creator,

462
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.799
isn't that like the whole Garden of Eden thing? You know,

463
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.440
And really opened my eyes to what was going on

464
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.079
out there in the world. And then I just jumped

465
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:55.599
in to the Bible and studied and listened and learned

466
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.160
and and you know, when you it's very humbling when

467
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.960
you realize how how stupid you are. And that's what

468
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.799
I realize is how stupid it was. And I just

469
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.079
let God teach me. And I still realize I still

470
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:14.160
know nothing, but and that teaching really opened my eyes

471
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.559
to the fact that these things are in the Bible,

472
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:25.119
from Genesis to Revelation. They're all through it, and references

473
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:26.880
to them are all through it. And we don't have

474
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.960
a book about the angelic beings. Angel is a misnomer.

475
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.480
I use it because that's how most people refer to

476
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.799
these maybe the bedia of halohem God. Yeah, so you understand.

477
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.799
But the other entities that God created before us to

478
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:44.160
serve him, you know, and there we don't have a

479
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.000
book about them. We have a book about us and

480
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:50.480
about our salvation and that's all we need. But everything

481
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.160
we need is in there. I believe that it's I

482
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.160
believe it's the ineric word of God. I believe people

483
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.319
have messed with it, taken books out and moved things around.

484
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.559
I believe we have to be you know, I believe

485
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.799
the original intent was for that.

486
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:08.599
So that was like the way Timothy Alberino explains it

487
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.880
as the elder race.

488
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.480
Yes, the elder race is exactly they were here before us, right,

489
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.680
I mean, and they were on this planet before us,

490
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.480
and they want it back. That's his book, birthright. They

491
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.279
want that back. It's our birthright. But they wanted it back.

492
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.880
And when they rebelled, God's like, look, I'm gonna make

493
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.519
a man out of dirt. How must that have made

494
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.279
them feel? No wonder they're so angry they tried to

495
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.119
bring us.

496
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.799
But some of them are more obedient than others, you know, right.

497
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.599
And I think the ones that are obedient understand that. Well,

498
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.480
they aren't the ones who rebelled in the first place,

499
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.640
so they probably know that they're going to get to

500
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:51.759
come back here at some point, bigger game. Yes, it's

501
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.039
not just our little piece of territory here in this

502
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.039
little three D world that we live in it because

503
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.039
again we're trying to fit it in our little box

504
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.079
that we live in it. It doesn't work that way.

505
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.039
It's never going to fit. And I think that, you know,

506
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.519
we will never We won't see that big picture until

507
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.319
we get there. And and so I think that, you know,

508
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.039
and it's just my opinion, but I really do believe

509
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.319
that the ones who rebelled and who fell just they

510
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.160
want it back now. They don't want to wait. And

511
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.200
if time doesn't exist for them the way it does

512
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.559
for us, you know, so who knows, you know, it

513
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.319
could be a blink of an eye for them. They

514
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:27.720
still don't think they want to wait, and I think

515
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.279
they enjoy torturing us. I mean, it's just part of

516
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:31.599
what evil is and.

517
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.519
They're just playing their role.

518
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.880
Yeah, exactly, exactly, because you have to think about it.

519
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.039
I like how Vicky Joey Anderson talks about I'm sorry,

520
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:42.640
bring her up a lot. We're just friends, so we

521
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:48.279
talk all the yeah you did. If you all haven't

522
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.200
listened to it, please go listen to it, because I'll

523
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.839
be referring to it. She you know, how she says that,

524
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.119
you know she thinks that and when she was talking.

525
00:29:58.519 --> 00:29:59.119
With h.

526
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.400
I can't remember who anyway about how you know God

527
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.680
allowed the Satan or the evil one to come back

528
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.359
in here. You know, we need the evil. You know,

529
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.680
they're playing a role, you know, and they.

530
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.400
It's a job title, job right, Yeah.

531
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.160
So, and that they're playing a role because we wouldn't

532
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.880
know good if we didn't have the evil, and he

533
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.599
wouldn't be able to see who truly loves him and

534
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.480
he wouldn't be able to wouldn't be able to test

535
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.720
that faith. So so for me, that's a long answer

536
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.279
to your question. But was you know, did I always

537
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.880
I didn't always see the connection, the biblical connection, But

538
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:40.000
once I did, I found it fascinating. And I also

539
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.240
found it scary that there wasn't no people weren't talking

540
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.599
about it. People like La Marzulie were talking about it.

541
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:47.680
That's what led me to him, and that's why I

542
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.920
shared my story with him first, and and that just

543
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.559
led to a friendship and a relationship that I had

544
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.279
never you know, never expected a million years, but just

545
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.720
the most amazing friendship and relationship. And being able to

546
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.759
be a part of those documentaries and be a part

547
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.279
of his ministry and be a part of that family

548
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.839
has with him and Vicki and everyone else has just

549
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:09.480
been amazing.

550
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:14.519
So yeah, for sure, Yeah, I just don't think. I

551
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.680
think it's meant there's smoke screens put up for us

552
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.880
all over the place to divert us from seeing what

553
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.759
it actually is right. And I think that's why the

554
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.680
enemy is very effective. And that's what that's what I

555
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.720
like to call it, the enemy, not Satan, not whatever,

556
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.000
because again Satan is just a job title. And Vicky

557
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.640
explains this very well also, like people like Ed Maybray

558
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:46.440
and people explain that they're like a prosecutor. They're not

559
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.920
necessarily evil, y right, a lot of it. Now, there

560
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:56.319
are evil entities obviously, but like Satan, the Satan, the hacaitan,

561
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.480
whatever you want to call. Yeah, that the job of

562
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.960
that entity is to be a prosecutor and to say, hey, God, God,

563
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:09.319
look wait, here's what they did. Yeah, you know, and

564
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.799
open those doors and almost give permission. It's like they're

565
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.960
fighting for permission for your faith to be tested. That

566
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:17.799
that's what they're doing.

567
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:22.960
And yeah, exactly, exactly, And isn't that the Biblical story

568
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.599
from the get go, from the get that been their job.

569
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:27.720
From the first page of the you know, from the

570
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.400
first page to the left, that's been their job. That's

571
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.559
why I always call it and everything. Yeah, yeah, it's

572
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.119
it's through the whole thing. And it's like it is

573
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.079
all a test that we can learn to love Him better,

574
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:41.400
that we can learn to love each other better, that

575
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.680
we can kind of figure out who and what we

576
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.279
are that He made because God made us, but he

577
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.359
wants us to understand us and he knows we never will,

578
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.559
but he's given us this free will and this this

579
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.359
duality in us too, and he wants us to understand

580
00:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.799
it so that we can choose to embrace that beautiful

581
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.400
goodness that he's blessed us with. And that it takes,

582
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.359
you know, it takes a little bit of both, because

583
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.920
you without the bad, you would never understand the good.

584
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.400
Oh yeah, And it's just the way he's created the universe,

585
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.119
and it makes sense, but it's so much bigger. When

586
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.440
you try to start thinking about it, your brain start

587
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.279
to just bubble over. Yah, and then get back to

588
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.799
that I know nothing, I know nothing, you know, but

589
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.400
there's just so much to it. And the more I

590
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.200
study and the more I read, and the more I

591
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:34.640
look into all of these things, it's just like there's

592
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:39.079
so much information out there, there's so much for us.

593
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.400
We'll never get through it all. We'll never get through

594
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.240
it all. And so my goal is to gather as

595
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:48.720
much as I can, help explain what happened to me

596
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.319
from in a way that will help people understand better

597
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.119
what's really going on, and then share that and so well,

598
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:57.720
that's what I'm trying to do. That's what I tried

599
00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:59.119
to do with this book. It's what I try to

600
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.839
do when I speak, That's what I try to do

601
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.400
at conferences, and that's what I will continue to try

602
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.200
to do. And I think that's the ministry that God's

603
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.480
put on my heart is, you know, just and to

604
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.639
let people share their experiences in a safe environment, because

605
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:13.480
there just isn't there aren't places to do that.

606
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:19.320
True. So you've talked about you and La and a

607
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:25.800
bunch of talk about this hybridization program, right yes, and

608
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.119
that you were a part of that. Part of your

609
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.679
reduction stuff was because of that, whether the breeding program,

610
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:40.239
whatever you want call it right right like. So with

611
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:46.480
that being said, what do you believe that is the

612
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.840
ultimate goal of that hybridization program.

613
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.360
That's a great question. And you know, I think there's

614
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.400
a couple of I think it's a multi pronged goal.

615
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:01.480
One who this came from the doctor Chuck Missler, and

616
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.760
I agree with this wholeheartedly when he said Satan is

617
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.079
out numbered two to one, and the Satan or you

618
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.199
know where, he's building an army and the opposition is

619
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:16.760
building an army, and they want that army to be

620
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.320
faithful to them. So they want a counterfeit kingdom. They're trying.

621
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.920
It's the same as from the beginning. You know he

622
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.239
was there was that that jealousy and that you know,

623
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.320
I want to be the most They say he was

624
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:35.599
the most beautiful of all the beings. He still wants that.

625
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.719
That just that I kind of losing the word that

626
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.039
I'm looking for, but just so full of himself and

627
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.719
to create this, yeah, right, and to so to create

628
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.880
this counterfeit kingdom, to create he can't create from nothing

629
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.519
like God did, but so he's going to create using

630
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:59.119
God's creation and counterfeit it, which is how the breeding

631
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:05.800
program comes into. Yeah, and create a counterfeit version. It's

632
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.760
always been a counterfeit kingdom, and it's and it's something

633
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.199
that was going on from from the beginning, from the

634
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.119
get go. You know, from the time when the Genesis

635
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.519
six and the sons of sons of the Mayha Loheims,

636
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:19.679
all the dollars of the men were beautiful and made

637
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.360
of them wives plural of all that they chose, and

638
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.599
and those were the mighty men of old, you know,

639
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:28.719
the Nepheleene, the Gibrin, the what have you. And and

640
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.079
we kind of have this outdated notion that well, I

641
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.679
don't see giants walking around. Well, nothing in there says

642
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.440
that they were all giants. Some of them were, but

643
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.119
there were different kinds, you know. You had the as

644
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.400
you mean, and the different all the different kinds and

645
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.119
that long necks and the ones that made the funny noise.

646
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:45.920
You know. Just I won't go down through them all.

647
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.440
But there's huge lists and they don't have in front

648
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.000
of me. But so you're gonna have different kinds. You're

649
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.119
gonna have short ones and tall ones and giant ones,

650
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.880
and they're gonna create different kinds of entities from that.

651
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.039
So you know, we had to be careful to not

652
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.519
to make it all just one thing. Everyone gets kind

653
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.639
of stuck on the giants. Yes, I believe that those

654
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.760
were there. You know, I grew up knowing that. I

655
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.119
grew up in the central Ohio area around the the

656
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:17.960
ancient earthworks the mountains, and we grew up just knowing

657
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.880
that they came and took the giant bones from the mountains.

658
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:26.119
They were excavated, we knew. No one questioned it, you know,

659
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.159
and that you know how it just kind of gets

660
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.760
buried over time and everyone forgets. That's kind of a

661
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.679
bad word. Yeah, but you know, so you know it's

662
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.239
it's I've got a friend who's on her way to England.

663
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:38.719
She's going to be at the British Museum. I'm like,

664
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.239
can you go ask them for the bones in the

665
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.760
basement that they took every time I'm there I ask.

666
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.199
They never give them to me. Maybe they'll give them

667
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.000
to you. I don't know. She's an archaeologist. We'll see,

668
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.039
but at least can I see him?

669
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:50.440
Yeah?

670
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.679
Can I see it? I know, I know what the

671
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.760
label says. Okay, just let me in the basement. It'll

672
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.800
be fine. I promise I won't take anything. I don't

673
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.519
think anything that's not mine. Yeah, but yeah, it's so

674
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.199
you know I think that. But back to the question, Yeah,

675
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.440
I think you know, it's a it's a multi pronged thing.

676
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.679
I think part of it is building an army. I

677
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.519
think part of it is a birthright, you know, trying

678
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.440
to be just human and how human you have to

679
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.960
be to have the birthright, you know, and then how

680
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:24.760
you know, how many people can they influence to not

681
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.960
accept Jesus into their heart? How many people they can

682
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.679
and they influence to not then, like you guys were

683
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:37.000
talking about before, have their public defender when their day comes,

684
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.320
you know, because those are you know, we don't know

685
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.079
enough about how the end is all going to play out.

686
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.679
We've got we've got some good information. We don't know everything,

687
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:50.719
you know. We know, we know God is a good

688
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.760
and merciful God. We don't know what the millennial kingdom

689
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:54.880
is going to look like. We don't know who's going

690
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.440
to get to come back from where and what all

691
00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:59.159
is going to happen. But you know, the more people

692
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.159
can keep out of that or from having their defender,

693
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.639
from having Jesus in their heart, from knowing the truth,

694
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.159
you know, I think it's so. I think it's a

695
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.679
multi pronged thing that they're trying to do. And like

696
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.239
Vicky said, it's it's all the same arena. We've just

697
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.519
got a lot of different players in there. And then

698
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.519
with each generation the players getting names. You know, it

699
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.960
goes from UFO to UAP, it goes from Ghosts to demon,

700
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.559
it goes from Nepheline to you know and everyone. It

701
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.519
gets a new name, it gets a new branding, it

702
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.920
gets new Hollywood branding, it gets new you know, everything,

703
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.119
and so we're always still talking about the same thing.

704
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.199
You know, it's been the same there's nothing new under

705
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.480
the sun, right, So it's just the same story over

706
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.480
and over again, right, And it does say in the

707
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:43.599
end it will be like the days of Noah. And

708
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.599
what was happening in the days of Noah. Well they were,

709
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.199
they were cameras, there were mixing animals. Well, aren't we

710
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.440
doing that again? Yes we are. And they're you know,

711
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.480
like to bring back the extinct species. They're mixing and

712
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:59.119
with other DNA. Well that's all, yes.

713
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.679
Yes, which wasn't exactly a dire So I think what

714
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.599
people need to understand is it's not exactly like bringing

715
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.079
back an extinct species. Is that What they did is

716
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.679
they took pieces of DNA from a dire wolf and

717
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.159
added them to a gray wolf to like make a

718
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:17.880
dire wolf.

719
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:19.880
So it's a mix and they can do that.

720
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:22.679
They can do almost anything.

721
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.840
There's labs in other countries. You just have to do

722
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:27.920
a little Google search and you'll find all kinds of

723
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:31.960
labs making species or taking extinct species. And we mixed

724
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.400
it with the common species and now you've got the

725
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:39.480
elephant slash mammoths on whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, oh

726
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:40.639
my gosh, what are we.

727
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.599
Doing, and they did this project completely under wraps like

728
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.440
they did because they've been talking about how they're doing

729
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:53.119
the same company, what is a Colossus Genetics or whatever

730
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.559
it is, is working on the mammoth. They're also working

731
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.199
on the thylacine, but they're also working on a couple

732
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.920
other animals too, And nobody even had the dire wolf

733
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.400
on the radar and then boom. This is just proof

734
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.519
of concept, that's all it is.

735
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.800
There's so much going on that we don't know. And

736
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.119
this is what I noticed from the get go. When

737
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.639
I was being taken, there were humans. I saw humans

738
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.159
wherever whenever I was taking and wherever I was taking too,

739
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.639
in these facilities that were clearly underground, there were humans

740
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.800
there too, working alongside the entities that were not human,

741
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.880
the non human alien entities that were in these things.

742
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:34.840
They weren't like the little grays that would come to

743
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:39.960
get me. There were gray alien type entities whose eyes moved,

744
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.400
who were all different. Some were taller, some were shorter,

745
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.559
Some looked more femine, some looked more masculine, some looked older.

746
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.400
Their faces had expression, their mouths open. You know. They

747
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:54.519
weren't like the little grays. There were some reptilion, there

748
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.960
were some looked more insectulin, and they all kind of

749
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:01.840
crossed over, like you can, I can group them into

750
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:09.679
gray Reptilian and seculine and the Nordic, but all of

751
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.559
those cross over, and there's some kind of like a

752
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.000
cross between a Nordic and an ensectulin or a gray

753
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.559
and a yeah yeah, and then I see yeah exactly

754
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.039
or you know, and who knows how many you know

755
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.119
were those hybrids? Are they just different versions that God created.

756
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.360
I mean, I had no idea, they didn't know. No

757
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.480
one ever sat me down and said, so, you know,

758
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:34.679
these are these are all the ones. They weren't big

759
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:38.760
on sharing information. Let's put it that way. You know,

760
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.360
everything I have I've just gleaned from my memories, and

761
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.239
very little was ever offered to me. The only thing's

762
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.119
ever offered to me is, oh, we just wanted We're

763
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.199
just here to help. We're just here to save the planet.

764
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:53.280
And you know, kidnapping little children is not helping, Raping

765
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.119
women is not helping, Stealing fetuses is not helping. I'm sorry.

766
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.599
These are not the actions of a benevolent space brother.

767
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.360
And you know, you can there are people who will

768
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.719
stand by that all day long, and I stand by

769
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.400
what I feel because of what happened to me and

770
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.679
what's happened to others. It's tragic, it's not been of.

771
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.119
These are not benevolent actions, period, end of story. If

772
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.000
they were, they wouldn't need to do these things to

773
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.679
offer positive things to us. They could just sit down

774
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:25.559
with our world leaders or whomever and offer information. And

775
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.400
we know that that will come in the when they offer,

776
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:33.039
you know, this kind of counterfeit kingdom where everything starts

777
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.360
to look wonderful and they'll say peace and safety and

778
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.480
they'll offer cures for cancer and all these wonderful things

779
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.159
will happen. They're going to say, yeah, the deception, I

780
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.320
mean even the most electively deceived, and you know the

781
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.760
elite will be right there cheering them on, and every

782
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.440
people were going to believe it. Because a beautiful and

783
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.320
jelic looking being and white comes down and heals you

784
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.440
from your sickness, you know you're likely to believe the

785
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.079
story that they tell you. And that's why we need

786
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.880
to pray for a discernment, and that's why we need

787
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:10.039
to have him in our hearts, because otherwise we're gonna

788
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.599
be deceived. It's going to be really hard to tell.

789
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.719
But what I think, and this is my opinion based

790
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.320
on the Biblical narrative and based on what I've experienced,

791
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.840
we're gonna know. We're going to feel it, and it's

792
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.920
gonna be instinct some of us are Yeah, those of

793
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.360
us who know are gonna know. I mean, babies instinctively

794
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.880
know from the time they're born. If you show them

795
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.159
a picture of a rattlesnake, they're going to jump back.

796
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.960
How do they know to do that? How do they

797
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.000
know what's dangerous before they have the ability to understand?

798
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:47.599
God gives us an innate ability. It's in there, and

799
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.239
we lose it when we come into the worldly stuff

800
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.559
of the world, and we get it back when we

801
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.639
let Him come into our heart and make us new again.

802
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.159
And we've got to depend on that, and I pray

803
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.159
for that every day that you know, don't let me

804
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.519
be deceived by Satan coming is an angel of light,

805
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.280
or by lying signs and wonders, because I've seen some

806
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:14.159
of the beautiful things they can do. I've been exposed

807
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:19.039
to them, exposed to their deception, and it can be

808
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.880
so beautiful and so enticing and so lovely. And comfortable

809
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:29.559
and comforting until it's not, because that is just the

810
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:33.199
first bit of it. The rest of it is dark

811
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.599
and ugly and disgusting and worse than anything you can

812
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.280
ever imagine. It's like that pretty candy coating, but it's

813
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.079
around a ball of dung.

814
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:48.800
That like many believers struggle to reconcile this UFO phenomenon

815
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:54.519
with their faith. So what would you say to Christians

816
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.159
who are waking up that sort of saying waking up

817
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.719
to reality, but they feel really conflicted.

818
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.480
Sure, I can understand that the world has given us

819
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:11.320
so much misinformation. That's why we feel conflicted. It's not

820
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.719
God making you feel conflicted. It's the information and the

821
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:20.119
stigma and the misinformation that the world has already given

822
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.599
you about UFOs, UAPs and aliens.

823
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.599
And so much. It's upside down.

824
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.599
Yes, it is completely backwards upside down. It is counterfeit information.

825
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.639
When you look in the Bible and you talk to

826
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.000
people who understand the more esoteric parts of the Bible,

827
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.880
there's so much to the Bible. When you ask God

828
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.440
to open your heart to the Bible, you realize how

829
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:47.159
fascinating and exciting and interesting and just chock full of

830
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.360
so much information. There's not one word in the Bible

831
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.760
that is boring. If you're finding it boring, you got

832
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.039
to ask God to come in and help you see

833
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.840
it differently, because I'll never be able to get through

834
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.599
it all, you know the way I want to, because

835
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.119
you know, there's just so it's that's just you know,

836
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:06.519
my wife.

837
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.719
Always says, she's like, oh my god, it's so good,

838
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.280
it's so good. I can't deal with them.

839
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.440
I just read this.

840
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.880
This is why I need to get I was saying

841
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.079
this yesterday to a guest. Uh. You know, the Lord

842
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:23.039
of the Rings movies just amazing, right, like a great

843
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.039
telling of the hero's journey. We need to get Peter Jackson,

844
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:33.239
who's the producer and director of that, to do the Bible, yes,

845
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:34.199
the right way.

846
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.800
Could you imagine the exactly?

847
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:43.320
Not like whatever, but man, crazy incredible yes, and then

848
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.719
people everybody, But see, I don't think that will ever

849
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.400
happen because that would change the whole game because you

850
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.199
would have people like, Okay, I'm on, I'm in it.

851
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.760
I get this is good right exactly. So that's what

852
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.199
I say to people who don't who are conflict and

853
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:03.639
can't reconcile it with the Christian faith. It's in there.

854
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:10.320
It's in this Bible. It's in here, from Genesis to Revelation.

855
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.800
It is in here. I mean, I couldn't. I couldn't

856
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.039
mark all the pages it's on because it's on almost

857
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.800
every page. There's a reference. There are references to all

858
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:26.000
of this. It's in there. And if you find a

859
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.880
good Bible based church that really teaches the whole Bible,

860
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.440
they're going to understand that. But it's really hard to find.

861
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:36.840
But yeah, but there are a lot.

862
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.320
Of center on this stuff too that are just.

863
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:42.320
And I think that that's really where we have to

864
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.000
go for the information. You have to go outside. You

865
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.360
can't it's not necessarily going to be found in that

866
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.079
in a church pew somewhere. You're going to have to

867
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.880
go and find people who know the Word, who know

868
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.599
the Lord, who have that that love in their heart,

869
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.800
who are teachers who have a ministry on them, who

870
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.280
want to share and you're gonna you know, we know

871
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.079
that in these times we are going to be responsible

872
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.679
for our own understanding, our own knowledge, our own information,

873
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.079
and we have to share that because it's not going

874
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.559
to be shared in the traditional ways. And that who

875
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.000
says these traditional ways are the right way. We're not

876
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.119
following the initial ways that God set it up first

877
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.239
to do anyway. And then a lot of that is

878
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.000
old covenant, you know, And there's nothing wrong with following

879
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.880
old covenant traditions. They can be lovely and comforting, so

880
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.480
it's not wrong to follow them. But we're not even

881
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.559
following the way God instructed us most to pray, to fast,

882
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.119
to share. You know. It doesn't say you have to

883
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:40.760
get dressed up and go to a big, fancy church.

884
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.880
Doesn't say that, you know, it's not in the game.

885
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:46.719
Changed anyway.

886
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.880
Yeah, he changed everything. He changed the game. And I

887
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.039
like how Vicky talks about the fact that, you know,

888
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.960
he wasn't coming out going hiy Jesus, I'm here to

889
00:49:56.119 --> 00:50:01.039
say I love you. No, you know he's out. He wasn't.

890
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.559
He wasn't dirty hippie Jesus. He was. No, he's something else.

891
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.400
But they tram that way, and that's not true.

892
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.280
Yeah, it wasn't the Jesus of the nineteen seventies, y'all.

893
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.440
He wasn't barefoot and wearing tied eye and and you know,

894
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.840
the certain daisies all over everyone. No, he was calling

895
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.760
people out on their stuff and saying you are the

896
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:25.719
scum of the earth. Get your act together. Not you know,

897
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.599
I could use a lot of stronger words and telling

898
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.599
people like it is. And that's what we're trying to do.

899
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.119
We're trying to say, look this stuff, this is not cool.

900
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:38.760
What's happening to people? This whole UFO UAP alien stuff

901
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.679
that's out there, it's a bunch, it's a crock of

902
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.360
you know what. It's Yeah, people are lying, people are

903
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:49.440
are twisting the truth. They're putting it upside down. They're

904
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.280
not telling you what's really going on. Their strength just

905
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.679
enough truth to pull you in. It's like this, three

906
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:58.639
truths and three lives, and there's just enough truth to

907
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:00.400
pull you in. And then these lives are I'll lead

908
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.519
you all the way over here into a really bad

909
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:07.360
place and it sucks. And then so we got to

910
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.840
get we got to get tough, We got to get

911
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:11.719
a little bit harsh sometimes. I know we're supposed to

912
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:15.280
come with gentleness and love, and I get that and

913
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.400
I try to do that every day, but we've also

914
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:20.840
got to be honest, and we got to be you know,

915
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.719
this is how it is. This is what's happening, and

916
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:26.480
we got to be honest about the truth about who

917
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:28.679
and what these things are. These are the fallen of

918
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:33.320
the Bible. These are the fallen Ohim, the fallen created

919
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.599
ones of the Bible, and they are out to get us.

920
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.159
And we got to fight back, and we got to

921
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.360
be careful, and we've got to stop anyone we can

922
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:47.079
from trying to connect and invite these things in because

923
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.079
the CE five that's that. There's a kid's movie just

924
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.480
came out. If you haven't watched my interview with La Marzulie,

925
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:54.960
it's the last one I did with him that came

926
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.400
out like two weeks ago. We're talking about this kid's

927
00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.800
movie that came out. It's called Ilio. It's a Disney

928
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:04.119
pick our movie, and this child is basically doing CE five.

929
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.000
He is summoning UFOs, he's summoning aliens to come pick

930
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:11.360
him up. He's inviting them in L E O E

931
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.480
L I oh.

932
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:21.320
Think about it, and yeah, he is summoning and teaching

933
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:25.719
kids how to summons and aliens.

934
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.440
And it's basically CE five for children. It's basically, uh, hey,

935
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:36.360
let's summon demons in the kindergarten classroom, you know, I

936
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.400
know that's gonna out catch flag for that, and I'm sorry,

937
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.639
But I'm not sorry because I don't think children should

938
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.599
be summoning demonic entities. I know children should not be

939
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.360
summoning demonic entities. There's no I don't think about it. Yeah,

940
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.119
and this scares me. And it's not the first time.

941
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.559
I just wrote an article this month for last newsletter

942
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.639
saying expanding on it, on that and how much there

943
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.559
is out there teaching little children to do this stuff.

944
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.400
It's awful and we don't even realize it. It's like, Oh,

945
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.760
set them in front of the Disney Channel or in

946
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.280
front of Cartoon Networker, in front of you know whatever

947
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.920
this is. This is safe, it's rated, it's rated kids,

948
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.000
it's rated you know, K five or whatever. It doesn't

949
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.679
mean it's safe. Check it out, check out the Blue systems,

950
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.480
check out you know. I'm a mom, I'm a grandma.

951
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.719
I worry every day about what these kids are exposed to.

952
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.440
We're not watching, you know, And if we didn't have prayer,

953
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:33.639
I don't know what I would do because I can't

954
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.639
watch them every minute. I can't be there. No one

955
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.599
can write. It's a scary world, I know, you've got

956
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.400
kids too. It's a scary world out there, no matter

957
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.679
what their age there is, you know. So, and this

958
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.400
is just showing and what I see coming from this too.

959
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.320
We are raising a generation that will now one hundred

960
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:58.920
percent believe and understand that aliens, non human alien entities, UFOs, UAPs,

961
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.519
whatever you want to call them exist. There will be

962
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:06.000
no stigma. It is just that they are there. They exist,

963
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:10.840
So that stigma is going away with our parents, grandparents,

964
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.840
and with our kids and grandkids. They're growing up now

965
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:18.000
in a generation that knows that these things exist, knows

966
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.880
UFOs and uips exist, understands that they're there, and they're

967
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:27.320
looking for guidance as to Okay, so they're here, what

968
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.320
do I do about it? How do I feel about it?

969
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.800
And they're being taught how to feel about it in

970
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.280
movies like this. Oh you ask them to come get

971
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:39.840
you because they're your benevolent space brothers. No, No, but

972
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.599
that's what's being taught. And we have to offer a

973
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:48.480
counterpoint to every one of these things from a biblical perspective.

974
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.559
I'm not pushing Christianity down anyone. So I'm not pushing

975
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.239
religious beliefs or anything down to even so, but I

976
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:59.000
am saying this is dangerous. There are alternatives. Just know

977
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:01.360
the truth. Where you sit in front of something like

978
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.679
this and expose your children to it, it's scary. It's scary.

979
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.679
As a person, it's scary.

980
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:13.159
So the show is called broadcasting Seeds, and I like

981
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:21.719
to like wrap things up with something where you're planting seeds,

982
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:26.039
you know what I mean, in people's minds. So the

983
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:30.519
question I've got for you is what message do you

984
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.079
want to leave with people who feel like there's like

985
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:38.599
they like they've had similar experiences, right, but are still

986
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:40.199
too afraid to talk about it.

987
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:46.800
Yeah, yeah, I understand that fear. Trust me, I do firsthand.

988
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:48.840
I never wanted to talk about this in public. I

989
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.760
had no intention of ever talking about this. I really

990
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:58.320
didn't believe or not. It's okay, you don't have to

991
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.360
talk about it if you don't want, you never have

992
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.480
to talk about it. But what you do, what you

993
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:09.679
should do as a Christian is you should be prepared

994
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.039
to share the truth of who and what these things

995
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.039
are with anyone who is interested. And I will tell

996
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:21.199
you what the interest in UFOs UAP's aliens is phenomenal.

997
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:24.440
Right now, I guarantee your neighbors are interested. When I

998
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:26.920
wrote this book, I didn't expect to hand it out

999
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:30.119
to my neighbors, but I did, and they were thrilled

1000
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:34.559
to get it. I didn't expect that I was kind

1001
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.840
of new in this neighborhood too, so I'll preface it

1002
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:44.400
with that. You know, so just be prepared. Even if

1003
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.719
you're not comfortable talking about it. There are places you

1004
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.440
can talk about it. Go to my website, Karen Wilkinson

1005
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.199
author dot com, Vicki Joyanderson dot com, here broadcasting seats.

1006
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:55.800
There are a lot of places you can go to

1007
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.159
find direction, to find places to go if you just

1008
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:05.440
want to share your story. But I highly, highly highly

1009
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.440
recommend and ask that you understand who and what these

1010
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.280
things are from a biblical perspective so that you can

1011
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:15.039
share that with others, because they will be deceived by

1012
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.000
the by the misconceptions that are going on right now

1013
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.559
in the general public. These things that they're telling us

1014
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:26.599
are not true and they're dangerous. They're very dangerous in

1015
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:27.199
my opinion.

1016
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.800
Great, Yeah, that one person that can talk to you

1017
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.840
might you might change or save their life and they might.

1018
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:37.960
Yeah.

1019
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.679
Right, isn't that worth it? If I get through to

1020
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.760
one person doing this, I I am so grateful and

1021
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.639
I can I can leave this earth happy. And just

1022
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:54.559
think of it that way, you know, at that point exactly,

1023
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:55.519
and you're going.

1024
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.480
To get up there and you've changed my outlook, so

1025
00:57:58.599 --> 00:57:59.159
you're winning.

1026
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.840
Really, yeah, if that happens, you mean I changed your

1027
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:03.440
outlet now.

1028
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.920
I mean when when I first heard your story, I

1029
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.159
was like, oh my gosh, and it just changed the way.

1030
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.159
It started me down the path between you and la.

1031
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.800
It started me down the path of change, like the

1032
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.039
way that I thought about these things. And and it's

1033
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:24.039
like once you keep opening those curtains, man, it's just

1034
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:27.519
then then you get caught and you're just sliding down

1035
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:29.079
the slide and you can't stop it.

1036
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:33.199
So and you're hungry for more information. So it's all

1037
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:37.239
over once you start, once you start learning, and how again,

1038
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.360
how much you don't know? Oh, it's all.

1039
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:39.800
It's all.

1040
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.400
It's like Alice, man, you're you're caught in a rabbit

1041
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:43.920
hole and you ain't come that's it.

1042
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:46.599
Yeah you're not, You're not. Yeah, you're you're gonna in it.

1043
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.239
But it's in a good way. It's like the one

1044
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:48.760
that takes you.

1045
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.079
Off Yeah, it's not a bad way.

1046
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.199
Yeah, it's the good rabbit hole. And God just wants

1047
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.559
to keep feeding you once you start getting this good information.

1048
00:58:56.280 --> 00:59:00.840
And yeah, it's I every day learned something new about

1049
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.760
this that just shocks and amazes me and sometimes delights me.

1050
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.840
And I am thrilled when I meet people like you

1051
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.280
who are sharing this with others, because they're just we

1052
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.079
need more of this, We need more, more places to

1053
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.400
talk about it, more places to share about it. And yeah,

1054
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.800
I just nem ice and that's definitely the seeds that

1055
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.440
I want to plant is know who and what these

1056
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.880
things are. There are lots of references I talk about it,

1057
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.880
you know, I explain it very clearly in this book.

1058
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:30.880
I'll explain it again in the next one. You can

1059
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.639
find it in LA's work, you know, find it here

1060
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:37.360
at Broadcasting Seeds. And make sure you're prepared to share

1061
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:41.800
that truth in a way that people are comfortable with

1062
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.840
and that they can understand. And if even if it's

1063
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:46.840
just to say, go listen to this here, listen to

1064
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:50.280
this interview, listen to this podcast, you know, or go

1065
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.280
to this website or just have something available, you know,

1066
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.480
I always have things with not this, but I have

1067
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.760
like little notepads and stuff with my our code on it.

1068
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:02.599
When I'm out and about, I'm like, here, would you

1069
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:05.400
want would you like a notepad? Just it'll send people

1070
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.079
to my website, absolutely, and then it'll answer some questions

1071
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:11.719
and they can find me if they've got questions. I

1072
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:15.320
have to, you know, not be afraid to reach out.

1073
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.079
Instead of waiting for people to reach out to me,

1074
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.239
I am reaching out and sometimes that's that's the best

1075
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.000
way to share and to share God's word and God's truth.

1076
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:29.320
We think we think witnessing administering is going around handing

1077
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:32.360
out tracks on a street corner. That's not that's not

1078
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:36.960
It can be, but there's a lot more to it

1079
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.119
than that, you know, And again, you don't have to

1080
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.440
walk around with sandals and braids and tight eyes and

1081
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:47.320
sing and whisper everything in the nineteen seventies Jesus way,

1082
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:51.599
there's nothing wrong with that. But I think that, you know,

1083
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.159
we have to be honest with people and share as

1084
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:54.920
much as we can.

1085
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.360
Absolutely. So you've brought up that you're writing a new book,

1086
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:04.920
But what's what's next for you? More speaking, expanding your

1087
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:08.880
work and any other directions, any new directions or.

1088
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.440
I just kind of go where God sends me.

1089
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:11.840
You know.

1090
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:17.039
I try not to make too many concrete plans. Everything's

1091
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.679
been kind of disjointed this first half of the year.

1092
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:21.199
I've been kind of waiting to have a surgery done,

1093
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.440
which keeps getting put off because of the insurance companies,

1094
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.719
and that's another huge mess. But I'm just putting my

1095
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:28.320
faith in God, and I figure he's got a plan

1096
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.599
for that too. So I'm just going to keep sharing information.

1097
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:35.559
I speak, you know, wherever I'm invited to speak, I'll

1098
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:40.559
go speak. I love public speaking. I tend to follow

1099
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.599
VICKI and I tend to follow Lamorzuli around on his

1100
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.079
conference as well, so I know that, you know, we

1101
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.800
both spoke with him in I had a Prophecy Watchers

1102
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.159
conference in Brandson last year. We'll probably do that again

1103
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:55.320
this year later this year.

1104
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.800
And I'll think the worst people to follow.

1105
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:02.559
Around, Yeah right, it's to be part of that team. Yeah,

1106
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.199
so we all get you know, we're all there. We

1107
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.119
get to run the table together, we get to meet

1108
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.760
with people, witness and just talk with people, and it's

1109
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:10.920
just so great to do those things. I know Vicky

1110
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.679
and I are planning to be at the Prophecy Watchers

1111
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:20.400
conference in Oklahoma in October. We are both planning to

1112
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:23.000
be there and hopefully we will both be up on

1113
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.639
stage with La sharing as well, So we're really looking

1114
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.800
forward to that. Other than that, I don't have a

1115
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.960
ton plan because of my schedules a little up in

1116
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:34.679
the air. So I know she and I are both

1117
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.719
working on books right now and long overdue, but we've

1118
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.519
been so busy. It's you know, God throws us in

1119
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.880
all these directions and I'm happy and grateful to do it.

1120
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.000
I love that I get to have this ministry and

1121
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:51.079
you know, spend this time with people, and I'll just go,

1122
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.239
like I said, wherever he sends me, That's where I'll go.

1123
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.320
So I'm excited to do it perfect.

1124
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.599
So again, plug tell us where you're where we can

1125
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:00.480
find you. Again.

1126
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:06.000
Sure, the book is available currently exclusively at Lamarzuly dot

1127
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.840
com or at Lamarzuli dot net. That's l A m

1128
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.199
A r z U l l I dot com or

1129
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.280
dot net. You can find links to that through my

1130
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.400
social media and my website. My website is just my name,

1131
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:22.159
Karen Wilkinson, Author dot com. You can find me on

1132
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:25.119
social media and I'll have a link tree on my

1133
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:27.119
social media. If you go into my profile, you can

1134
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:28.840
find a link tree that will take you to wherever

1135
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:30.559
you want to go with the other social media's or

1136
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.840
my website or what have you. So if you want

1137
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:34.719
to reach out to me, please don't send me a

1138
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.480
message through social media. It's so hard to get through those.

1139
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.639
They just get lost because I get hundreds in there,

1140
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.280
and there's so much spam in there. It's hard to

1141
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.119
figure out what is somebody trying to get through to me.

1142
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.679
You can reach out to me through my website my email.

1143
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.079
It links directly into my email, so it comes back.

1144
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:53.599
I can tell you. That's how I got a hold

1145
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:53.800
of her.

1146
01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:58.119
So yes, and it was great, right, And I will

1147
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.079
give you my email here at stolen Seed yahoo dot com.

1148
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.159
You can go right to that one and that's the

1149
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:06.239
one that you will get through my website. But yet

1150
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:08.199
reach out to me that way. I love to hear

1151
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.360
from people, even if you just want to share your story.

1152
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.880
If you have reached out to me through my website

1153
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.599
and I have not gotten back to you, it probably

1154
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.559
means something happened and your message didn't come through. So

1155
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.880
please try again, because I don't want to ever ignore anyone,

1156
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.079
and I would hate for someone to think I wasn't

1157
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:25.159
I was ignoring them when I really just didn't get

1158
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:29.320
the message. So yeah, that happens. So it's not a

1159
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.840
perfect science. You know, these things fail all that, And

1160
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.599
it's not personal. Please don't think it's personal. It's either

1161
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:38.760
it got lost or I'm having surgery. And I'm not

1162
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.880
answering anyone. So there's only two reasons I'm not going

1163
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:44.559
to get back to you. So because I you know,

1164
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:47.400
I really appreciate that, and they know how much courage

1165
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:51.639
it takes to share. It takes an incredible amount of

1166
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:55.480
courage and trust to share your story with someone. And

1167
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:59.920
I don't share anyone's stories. If you want me to,

1168
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you can say you're welcome to share this, that's fine,

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But I don't ever share anyone's stories. But if you

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send me something that's between us, period, I don't share

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that information. And you know, you know I don't anyone

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who's listened to me, and any of the hundreds of

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interviews I've done, I don't ever talk about anyone else's

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story about my own.

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You say it too, It's like a confessional, right, yeah,

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all right, you don't share it.

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I don't. It's it's not my story to share. And

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that's the hardest part about sharing these things is is

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you share in confidence because you're uncomfortable with it because

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of the stigmas. And I understand that very well. So

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just you know, for me, it's just such an important

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piece of this to get across. It's such an important message.

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So but thank you for the opportunity to share my information.

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And I am working on my website. I someone who's

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going to help me with it, thank goodness, and so

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it should be better soon.

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So look forward to ask I look forward to again, Karen,

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thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story.

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Thank you. Man.

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I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared, hold

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me hostage, and they don't fight fair.

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Who're gonna pray for me and wipe on my tests?

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Who's gonna save me? If you're not right here from

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this darkness and make my sight clear?

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Take me your way, because I don't like your ghost

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to my past. They feel in the night air, Wake

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me up.

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I'm trapped in my nightmass. You trapped in my nightmas, trowning,

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drowning my mouth, the deep in apparition. Some of all

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my demis all my thoughts I come make and treason

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all alone. I'm gonna hear me screaming mat if I stay,

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shits on my fists, regrets they stretched out for light years.

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You can almost touch the light. Homies right there, body

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free but trapping my nightmare. I don't let me ja

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a life of fame.

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All my life is faith, All my life is face.

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And that f don't let miss my life is fading.

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All my life is fading enough, Trapped in my nightmastah