Dec. 8, 2025
SERPO: The Alien Exchange Program
This episode explores the intriguing and controversial story of Project Serpo, an alleged alien exchange program during the Cold War. The narrative intertwines historical events, such as the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case, with claims of a secret deal between the U.S. government and extraterrestrial beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. The discussion delves into the origins of the Serpo mythos, the supposed experiences of 12 American volunteers sent to an alien world, and the broader implications of government secrecy and the quest for truth regarding extraterrestrial life.
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Broadcast Seeds in the minds of the beat.
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Okay, picture this. It is the middle of the Cold War,
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nuclear drills in American schools, Spies trade secrets under dim
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street lights. You got rockets, punging holes in the upper atmosphere,
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and on paper, the biggest question on every general's mind
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is who gets to space first, who gets better missiles?
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Who blinks in the staring contest that could end the world.
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But what if?
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Off the books, the real contest was not East versus West,
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it was Earth versus everyone else. Welcome back to Broadcasting Seeds.
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I'm your host, Ben Tantan, and today we are walking
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straight into one of the strangest what ifs in Ufu lore.
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A story that looks like science fiction, reads like a
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classified Apollo mission, and somehow refuses to die even after
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decades of debunking attempts and Internet drama. This episode is
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about Project Serpo, the alleged alien exchange program. According to
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the story buried somewhere in the deep, black budget world
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of American intelligence, there was once a deal. Not a
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treaty with Moscow, not some handshake with NATO, a deal
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between the United States government and a non human civilization
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said to be from the Zeta Reticuli star system, a
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real binary star about thirty nine light years away in
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the constellation Reticulum. If that name rings a bell, it should.
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Zeta Reticuli is the same system that got tied to
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the famous Betty and Barney Hill abduction case from nineteen
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sixty one, after Betty drew a strange star map under
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hypnosis and an amateur astronomer later argued it matched that
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specific starfair. That incident became known as the Zeta Reticular incident,
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and it helped cement that star system in UFO legend
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long before anybody ever whispered the word surpo. Fast forward
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a few years, and the Surpos story says something even
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wilder happened. According to leaked briefing documents and anonymous insiders,
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an alien craft landed at a secure US facility in
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the mid nineteen sixties. A group of twelve countum twelve
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American military specialists supposedly volunteered for what amounted to a
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one way deployment, no return date, no guarantee that they
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will ever see Earth again. Their destination an alien world
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orbiting those twin sons. The story claims they trained for years,
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learned basic alien symbols, They got poked, they got scanned
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and conditioned for low gravity and strange radiation. Then somewhere
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around nineteen sixty five, they boarded a non human craft
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and left Earth behind. For thirteen years, those twelve allegedly
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lived on another planet, tried to understand an alien society,
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and kept records of their daily life so that if
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they ever came home, somebody in a windowless room in
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Washington could read about it and quietly decide what to
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do with the truth. On the surface, it just sounds ridiculous,
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and it should. It has all the ingredients of a
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late night cable movie, a secret team, an alien world,
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a mission that starts with a handshake and ends with
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missing people and classified medical reports. But here's why this
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one will not go away. During the exact same Cold
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War period, our government really did run programs that sound
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like bad sci fi. The Stargate Project, for example, was
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a real, declassified Army and DIA effort that tried to
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use remote viewing and other psychic techniques to gather intelligence.
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Their own paperwork describes parapsychological interactions and human experiments that
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went on for years before being shut down in the
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nineties and later exposed through FOYA. So when the SERPO
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materials started appearing publicly in the early two thousands, it
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attached itself to a very real pattern weird black projects,
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hidden budgets, things that sound insane. Until thirty years later
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you find the PDF stamp formerly classified sitting on the
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CIA website like it was nothing. That is the tension
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we are going to live in this episode. On one side,
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you have serious problems with the SERPO story. One of
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the early alleged insiders, Richard Dodie, has a long history
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of being tied to UFO disinformation and admitted psychological games.
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Researchers have pointed out contradictions in the timelines, physics, issues
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with the travel, and the complete lack of heart evidence.
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On the other side, there is this haunting question that
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will not leave the room. If governments are willing to
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sponsor psychic spy units, silence pilots, and bury military UFO
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encounters in classified filent cabinets, how far would they really
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be willing to go if a non human civilization offered
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an invitation. In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we are
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going to treat Project Cirpo like what it is. It's
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a collision point between documented Cold War strangeness and an
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unverified but incredibly persistent story about human beings living off world.
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Here's how it's going to break down. Section one will
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walk you through the origin story of SERPO. Where did
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this claim even come from, who pushed it into the public,
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and how does it connect back to Roswell and Betty
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and Barney Hill. Case two will zoom in on the
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twelve volunteers. What the alleged mission profile says about their training,
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the journey, and life on an alien planet. We will
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compare that to real Apollo era astronaut protocols and ask
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what if it would actually take to send a human
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team that far from home? And then three will tackle
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the big one, disclobeure or disinformation. Is SURPO a breadcrumb
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trail meant to soften us up for slow drip disclosure
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or is it a psychological operation built out of half truths, hoaxes,
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and just enough reality to hook people like us Along
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the way. We will look at real documents, real programs,
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and real historical context and then set it aside. Set
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it side by side with this wild exchange program narrative.
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You do not have to believe Cirpo is real to
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get something out of this. The question underneath it is bigger.
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What does it do to a society if the people
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in charge of truth are caught lying again and again,
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especially about what might be sharing the universe with us?
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So before we jump in, quick reminder, if you get VAUD,
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you out of broadcasting seeds. The best way that you
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can support the show is to like share and leave
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a review wherever you're listening. That is how this thing grows.
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That is how more people find these conversations. That is
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how we keep pulling on threads like this without someone
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else deciding the narrative for you. All right, buckle up,
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grab your tinfoil passport and imagine what it would feel
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like to step onto a craft that does not belong
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to us, knowing you might not see Earth again. Section
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one from Roswell to Zeta Reticuli The Roots of the
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Surpo mythos. Let's rewind the tape back to nineteen sixty one.
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A quiet September night in rural New Hampshire. A couple
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by the names of Betty Hill and Barney Hill driving
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home after a road trip when they claimed to see
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a strange, glowing object descending in the sky. What followed
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lost time, terrified memories, and long lasting trauma. What echo
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across decades and helped birth what many today call modern
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alien abduction lore. Under hypnosis, Betty drew a screwde star map,
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one that she insisted she saw aboard the craft. Years later,
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an amateur and stramaer named Margery Fish tried to match
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that map to real stars. After painstaking analysis, she concluded
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the most likely candidate was a binary star system, Zeta Reticuli,
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and it's about thirty nine light years away that link
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hill Fish. Zeta Reticuli did more than give sci fi
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writers a stellar address. It gave UFO enthusiasts, conspiracy theorists,
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and late night podcast host a framework. Suddenly, alien abduction
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wasn't just a shadowy memory or a wild story. It
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had actual coordinates. Here's the twist. By the early nineteen
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seventies and nineteen eighties, skepticism mounted. Astronomers and critics argued
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that the star map was almost certainly a random clustering
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of points, not a navigable I can't never say that
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word route around the cosmos. One skeptic famously this demonstrated
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that once you remove the connecting lines drawn by Betty
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or interpreted by Fish, the map lost its resemblance to
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any known StarChart. So this tension vivid testimony versus astrophysical
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rebuttal created fertile ground for speculation, and in that fertile ground,
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the story of Project Sirpo bound its roots. According to
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its proponents, the US government didn't just catalog UFO sidings.
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It turned contact into an exchange. Allegedly, in the nineteen sixties,
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twelve Americans, our first interstellar envoys, barded boarded an alien
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ship and journeyed to a world circuling Zeta Reticuli. There
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they were meant to learn, to observe, to serve as
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Earth's silent ambassadors. Why did Sirpo narrative attach itself so
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cleanly to Hill and the Zeta saga because it fills
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the gaps. The Hill incident raised the possibility of alien visitation,
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and Zaeta Reticuli gave a destination. Serpo gave a mission.
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And in the world where real Cold War secrecy was
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already hiding programs of staggering weirdness, the leap from we
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saw strange lights to we made a cosmic deal. While
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audacious felt just plausible enough. Here's the real kicker. The
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same period that birthed the Hill incident and the Zeta
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reticular discussion is also the area era when our own
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governments were exploring the limits of the mind. Programs like
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Start the Stargate Project, Real to Classified tried to weaponize
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psychic phenomena, remote viewing, clairvoyance, extrasensory perception. The idea that
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the US was secretly messing with human consciousness for intelligence
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gathering is not fringe. It's documented. So by the time
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the documents claiming SERPO existed were whispered into public forums
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decades later, the audience was already just primed a society
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already shaken by covert government mental spy programs, an abduction
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case that induced introduced the possibility of alien contact, and
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a star system that allegedly checked out that more than
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anything is how legends are born, not just on paper,
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but deep in our cultural identity. In other words, SERPO
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didn't emerge in a vacuum. It grew out of dense
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vollatle a mix of anxiety, belief, secrecy, and hope. And
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then the next section we'll dig into the heart of
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those claims to meet the twelve Americans who supposedly boarded
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that alien craft and ask would Earth even sign them
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back in if they ever returned Section two Classified Astronauts
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the twelve volunteers, Okay, imagine being chosen not for a
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covert spy mission before something far more foreign, enlisting to
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become humanity's first ambassadors to an alien world. That's what
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the story of Project Cerpo claims happened in the mid
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nineteen sixties. You had twelve Americans handpicked, prepped, and sent
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to live on an alien planet. Let's roll the alleged
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mission logs together and examine what they would have looked
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like and what problems jump out when you compare them
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to what we know for of real history. The alleged
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volunteers who they were so according to Serpo lor, the
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group consisted of twelve US military or defense intelligence personnel.
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Some versions of the story say ten men and two women.
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Their mission to travel to an extrasolar planet Cirpo, orbiting
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the binary star system Zeta Reticuli, and live as sort
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of a long term exchange, learn the alien language, observe
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their society, and then report back. Supposedly, these individuals underwent
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extensive preparation cultural training like symbol language, basics of alien psychology,
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medical screening which included radiation exposure and low gravitate, low
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gravity environment psychological evaluation, long duration isolation alien flora and fauna,
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their diet, and even geographic simulated training for other world terrain.
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Some versions of the documents referred to crew manifests, pre
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deployment conditioning, and alien language primers described among the selected humans. Then,
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in nineteen sixty five, the boarding supposedly happened. The twelve
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entered a non human craft at a secure facility somewhere
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in the US, silent blackout corridors, stripped vaporwork, sealed air locks.
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If true, that would be the most ambitious exchange program
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in human history, not across not just across nations, but
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across worlds. The journey alleged faster than light or unknown physics.
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One of the most eyebrow raising claims. Despite the target
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being around thirty nine light years away, the purported alien
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technology made the trip in just a few months, or
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in some accounts, a nine month journey. After arrival, the
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twelve would have to adapt to unknown gravity, alien atmosphere
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and perhaps even different day night cycles, radiation exposure, unfamiliar biochemistry.
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Survivability alone raises enormous scientific questions, right given our current
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understanding of space travel, relativistic constraints, and human psychology sorry physiology.
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Some versions of the story claim that the clock runs
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differently on Curpo, that thirteen Earth years corresponds to ten
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Surpo years, presumably due to different orbital characteristics, a convenient
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detail if you want the numbers to line up for
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long term exchange. The return Who came back? Who stayed Behind?
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The most telling and chilling part of the tale comes
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after the alleged mission end. Supposedly only eight of the
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original twelve returned to Earth, and according to the story,
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one died en route on the outbound journey, one died
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on the alien planet, and two volunteered to day behind,
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adopting the alien life as their own. The eight who
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supposedly returned came back drastically changed physically, psychologically, culturally. Some
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versions claim the readaption process was brutal, broke circadian rhythms,
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alien diet hangovers, language confusion, and a sense of alienation
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that no psychiatrist or debriefing protocol could fully erase. It's
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also worth noting, though the story is very juicy, no
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verifiable documentation ever surfaced. The person who often surfaces as whistleblower,
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Richard C. Doty, has been widely discredited by UFO researchers
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for previous involvement in questionable leaks and confirmed information campaigns.
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By contrast, when we look at genuine secret programs that
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have since been declassified, we see something very different. Real
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precedent for black ops weirdness to Stargate project. So in
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the nineteen seventies and eighties, the US government, specifically the
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CIA ANDDIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, did in fact explore
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genuinely strange territory under names like Scanet, sun Streak, and
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finally Stargate. They attempted to harness psychic phenomenon, mainly remote
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viewing or intelligence gathering, which is still frankly allegedly used
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today by people that I know and have even interviewed
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for intelligence gathering eyes closed spies claiming to see Soviet
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