Nov. 4, 2025

Sasquatch and Sourdough: Mercy, Mystery, and the Mountain Spirit

Sasquatch and Sourdough: Mercy, Mystery, and the Mountain Spirit
Sasquatch and Sourdough: Mercy, Mystery, and the Mountain Spirit
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Sasquatch and Sourdough: Mercy, Mystery, and the Mountain Spirit
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In this engaging conversation, Christina, the host of the podcast 'Sasquatch and Sourdough,' shares her journey from spooky storytelling to exploring deeper spiritual themes. The discussion delves into her childhood influences, spiritual awakening, and the unique blend of topics covered in her podcast, including Sasquatch lore and witchcraft. Christina emphasizes the importance of community engagement and meaningful discussions in the fringe space, aiming to help others navigate their spiritual journeys while maintaining an inclusive and exploratory approach. In this engaging conversation, Christina and Bennett explore the intersection of supernatural experiences, spirituality, and biblical teachings. They discuss the allure of haunted places, the importance of open dialogue about witchcraft, and the significance of mercy in understanding spiritual phenomena. The conversation also delves into personal stories of transformation, the challenges of postpartum depression, and the journey towards faith amidst spiritual warfare. With a focus on Appalachian folklore and the implications of Halloween, the discussion emphasizes the need for a balanced perspective on spirituality and the supernatural.

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we ain't just stream safer with the prophets to code

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the dreams. So with you turn in better guards to

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mind is broadcasting seeds and were breaking the design then yeah,

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yeh yo yo, straight from the broadcast.

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Stay right, we are live, not live, but recording live.

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Christina from Sasquatch and Sourdough. Can you tell us who

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you are? I just said it, but yes, tell us

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who you are, what you do and where we can

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find you.

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Okay, Hi, I'm Christina. I am the host of Sasquatch

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and Sourdough. I have this podcast that is very I

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don't even know how to explain it. I kind of

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just have to listen to it. I don't even know.

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You can find the show at Sasquatchinsourdough at dot com,

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Sasquatchansowurdo at gmail dot com. I'm really really just busy

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on Instagram. I spend a lot of time, like Dming

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Bennett on Instagram and pretty much like all the people

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because I'm very social.

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So yeah, that's is that the place?

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Yeah? Pretty much. I Facebook, I can't. I don't know.

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Facebook doesn't make any sense.

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I can't. I don't like it. It's too It's something's

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not right there. I mean, I know that Instagram's owned

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by but it's just a different animal, literally very rigid.

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It's weird, Like I almost feel like I would rather

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just be on my Space with.

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It's so weird. I don't I don't know what they did,

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but it's I just like, I like that it's mostly

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visual based and there's a little bit of you know,

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it's it's just it's nicer for some reason for sure.

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But with your with your podcast, I love.

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Like I love that I can't. I can't even describe it.

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I don't even know.

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No, I agree, I know what you're saying. But I

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love like your the artwork's cool. First of all, thanks,

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and then you get on and like, I like it

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when you tell those little stories about like mountain lore

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and stuff like that apple Atchian Banshee, Like you just

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do those little snippets. Those are cool. I like it,

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and I just like you're the vibe. I guess it

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is the right way to call it.

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So that's kind of like that's kind of the whole

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point of it, like I wanted it to be as

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it's kind of evolved, because it started out like it

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was me and my best friend just kind of telling

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like spooky stories like I wanted to have that, and

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and then I kind of like wanted to give it

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to God. So that was like the best Bo Kennedy

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like from I think it was from Dark Waters. He

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always talks about this, like Dark Waters gave him this

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really great advice. He's amazing, and he said, like just

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give it all to God, and so I did. I

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was just like, all right, if you're gonna if this

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is anything, and you're gonna give me like the tools,

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I need to create this because I want to create

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this something. I didn't really know what it was, but

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I wanted to create content for God and also like

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answer all the weird questions that we have, you know,

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And so as it kind of developed, like I kind

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of so there is this really cool pastor or named

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Shane Willard, and he has this sermon series that he

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does where he talks about like the technology of the table,

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and basically the concept is that the the Hebrew word

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for table it means which I kind of I forgot

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what it is, so don't see you look, and I'm

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not a very don't come to me for any sort

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of science. I am, but I also like on the

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fly like no, if I don't have a written down

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to forget it like google that Google.

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Google, and you have the entire world right here.

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So just do your own research. Yes, But anyway, like

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the the Hebrew word for table means like a place

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to come together and like eat, but also to reconcile differences.

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of just like went with that whole aesthetic. I guess

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you'd say, like so early on when people would be like, oh,

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what is sasquatch and sourdough?

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What is that?

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Like?

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Are you talking about bread? And I would always be like,

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that's the litmus test. If you asked me about my

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sourdough recipe, I know you haven't listened to the show

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because I'm not talking about like Bible verses and like

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my sour goo starter. It started that way. I thought

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that's what I was going to do, like with the content,

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because I was like, I mean, we can get into

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my story because I get really after I get saved,

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I get really religious, and so I thought I was

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going to be like you know, Ali Beth Stucky in

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a prairie dress, like talking about homeschooling and like, you know,

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like I thought, and that God was like, all, remember

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that's not who you are.

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That you are yeah, so really the question is what

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got you into this world of high strangeness, Like what

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was your gayway? My almost sasquatch? Yeah right, so what

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was your gayway? And like tell your story?

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What's my lore?

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Yeah?

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Yeah? So uh that the kids are using that word,

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my God, it's my favorite. I say it like eight

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times a day. I'm like, what's your Lord? Because we

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invented that in the nineteen hundreds, so they just steal

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everything from us now. But basically, yeah, it's because I

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grew up in the eighties and nineties and it was

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you know, the classic I mean X Files, like I

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don't know, you can't see it here, but I have

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assigned david' coveny picture right here, and there's oh yeah,

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and there's I want to play. I grew up on

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the X Files like that was my ten years old.

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Loved it, loved it, loved everything about the X Files.

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I loved that it was just it was and back

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then it was weird and it was unique, and it

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was very uniquely weird, like you were really legitimately talking

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about and it's obviously like a truth. It's based on

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a real FBI guy as we know now that it's

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crazy because I often think about that, like I want

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to do an episode where I just want to be like, oh,

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X Files did it? Like remember all this disclosure would

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happened in the X Files. They knew all about that,

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all about it, all about it. But that's where it started.

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And I had a really rough, like kind of rocky

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childhood with my parents were kind of always there was

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always kind of turmoil and stuff. So I spent a

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lot of time in the library. I could walk to

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the library and just that's what you did. Like, we

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didn't have the internet, so it was like you went

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and I went right to the occult section, like I had.

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We grew up Catholic, but I was definitely I lost

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my faith at like seven. I was really there was

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a lot of jadedness in my in my very young life,

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which was weird because you don't really think that when

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you're that young. But it was definitely like something spiritually

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oppressive happy.

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Yeah, no, definitely something might pend itself.

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To you, so for sure. But that occult section in

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the library and like all the weird you know, all

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the weird stuff, anything that was weird, supernatural, unexplained, that's

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what we grew up with, like, and that stuff just

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made sense to me. And I think it was because

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it was something that was like I love the idea

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of like mystery. That's why I don't I don't really

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get into the conspiracy theories because I'm like, hey, just

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leave them alone. Why can't we just have the mystery? Right?

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I like not knowing?

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No, it's true, agreed, I mean I just I get

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sucked in but yeah, you know, I don't want to

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necessarily be there.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm the op. I'm like, I don't want

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to know.

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Yeah, it just happens for me.

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Unfortunately, you just get sucked into it, you know.

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I do. So with that being said, you spend a

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lot of time in the library. I know that. Uh

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play Yeah, same was it was like you know, I

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literally you didn't have you did not have any of this,

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didn't even have computers for the longest time. And then

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it was it was always like I would be sitting

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there with like an almanac, yes, just reading the Almadi

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facts about that. Do they even print almanacs anymore? You

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know what I mean? Like they have like an online

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almanac or what I.

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Think, Well, at least for like my so, my ten

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year old and his he they love those like Kinnis

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Book of World Record, like all that stuff is like

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still in they still have those in the libraries at

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school and stuff, so they're getting those out. But like, yeah,

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like books of facts and stuff. I used to love,

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like I love that stuff, Like I love just going

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to the library, probably because it was like a quiet

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place so I could just you know, chill and you

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could spend hours there and they wouldn't kick you out,

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like you know, just like looking it was. It was

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kind of you know the way I guess that people

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look at the Internet when the Internet was young, and it's,

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oh the information on our fingertips. Like we had the

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the card catalog system.

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Yes do my gosh.

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I did so well with that in school and I

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wanted to be like a research librarian. It's so funny.

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It's so funny how God restores all that stuff on you.

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It's amazing, just like, oh, here you go, you can

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research all this dumb stuff and then talk about it.

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So what So you have Sasquatch. So what's your what's

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your entry with Sasquatch?

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Okay, So I got saved in twenty nineteen. I was

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a total like non believer, ac cult like with a

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New Age all that sort of stuff like this this

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big ebb and flow journey of all that. Yeah, spirituality.

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So it's funny because like after I, after I got

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saved and I started going to church, and you know,

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I God was like really just working on my heart

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and restoring me and all that sort of stuff. And

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then I got to this point where I was getting

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really really religious and like that religious spirit kind of

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came in and it was like, Okay, well, now what

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do I do? Like can I still listen? Can I

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still watch the X Files? Like because you know you

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kind of get that way. I don't know if I mean,

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I don't know understand that like ye, but some people

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if you're if you grew up in church, you don't

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understand that, like because you're coming out of something that's

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not churchy and then you're going into like the church setting.

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So I found myself like having these questions. And I

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mean I could have I could have totally like gone

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my pastor and asked him because like now I'm on

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staff and he thinks it's hilarious and I have a

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big Foot podcast like that just cracks him up. And

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he's from West Virginia, so he was always like Christina,

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of course you get Bigfoot podcast? Putt you hippie whatever,

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like you just yeah, it's funny.

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Yeah.

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But it was like those questions, right, like those like well,

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what about Sasquatch? What about the X Files? What about aliens?

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People people that are believing? So I would kind of

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dig and I started listening to like blurry Creatures and

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finding all of those intersecting podcasts where I was like, okay,

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I can reconcile this, like this makes sense to me.

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These people still believe in God and Jesus and believe

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that what Jesus did for us is real, but they're

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asking these questions too, so that kind of got things rolling.

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why sourdough keyword searches is why that's why A key words?

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came together that way because I was thinking like, oh,

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then I was like, well again I'm not the girl

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in the prairie dress, like I'm kind of more like Sasquatch.

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Spirit was just like Sasquatch and sourdoughs. And I was like, wait, no,

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that's that's weird, weird, and then he was like shut

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up and do it. Not No, he didn't do that,

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but he was like no, Sasquatch and sowurdo. And so

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then I looked up you know, my my husband's a

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web developer. So he was like, well, let's see if

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it's taken, like we'll get the domain. Like he was

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already like, and I was like, well, of course sasquatch

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and sourdough was not taken anywhere, because it's the weirdest

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thing ever. So but it's funny because I do have

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to kind of like in the beginning, I was over

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explaining it, and now I'm just like, just listen, this

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is weird. It's a vibe. Vibe a vibe man like, so.

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What is your favorite topic? Like, so let me hold on. Okay,

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it's kind of going in so with me. I know

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that like the same kind of thing like you're talking

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about with like blurry creatures, the confessionals. You know, these

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these folks are all Christian and they're doing this right.

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So what that did for me is like I'm I

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was hardy. I had sasquatch encounters when I was young.

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like in it like that, and like you were talking about,

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like one of my biggest things was all the all

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the mythology. Yeah, I loved it, right, Like fairies and

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elves and vikings and all where you know, all of

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it Greek mythology. And so I actually started this podcast

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just on like that alone, like sasquatch, right, And then

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after you start doing research after research, you know, it's like,

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you know, I was I was a Christian, but I

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wasn't like I wasn't deep and on it, you know

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what I mean. And I've always I was raised that

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way and my dad was a pastor, the whole thing, right,

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was what it was. But once they start digging in,

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I was like, of course this is all biblical, like

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they can't get away from it now, like because.

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It all rhymes, it makes sense.

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about Genesis, you know, six, Genesis fifteen, you're just in

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there and you're like, nope, okay, all right, I understand.

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And we're in a.

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Spiritual war oh absolutely.

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his book on Spiritual Warfare is pretty amazing. I have

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it here somewhere. I was looking for it, but I don't.

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I can't it where is it hiding from me?

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But either way, no, it's all it's probably it's actually

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probably where my Bible studies.

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Either way, his book is amazing.

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Shout out to uh Bow and the Bunk Podcast.

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Which is I think he's rebranding, which is exciting.

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I think's because he did disappear for a little while there.

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I think he's I think he's changing the acronym layout

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but like the it's still gonna be bump, but I

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think it's going to like mean different.

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In different things. Gotcha, Okay, So yeah, straight spiritual Warrior now,

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like I am in it hard. And as soon as

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that happened, weird, weird stuff started happening. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Like I I pray every before every podcast, like like

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hardcore prayers. Like that happened when I interviewed Jerry Marzenski.

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Oh tell that.

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Yeah, we spent half an hour trying to get stuff.

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Going, equipment working.

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Yeah, and then it happened a couple other times. And

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once I started praying before every podcast that I never

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had an issue after that. But anyway, this isn't about me.

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I just was saying, so like with that for for me,

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how is this going for you? Like moving in that direction.

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So it's interesting because, like I said, I didn't really know,

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like I didn't know what like what I wanted to

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really do with it. So that's why I like, when

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I gave it over to God, I still was with

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my like my friend was still we were just kind

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of talking about like weird stuff. And then it was

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kind of like because in our early episodes, it's just

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like you know, the Locker Raven UFO, Like we're kind

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of just covering things and talking about them and it's

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like fun and it's banter. But then she wasn't really

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able to commit. And then I was like, okay, well,

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you know, I started getting like guests and things like

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that and doing interviews, which I really love, but then

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that really wasn't I wasn't able to consistently do that

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because everyone's schedules are crazy.

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I started doing like a live stream with so I

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don't know, if you know the Christian Theological Dark Web,

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Oh yeah, I love this, They're great. Like, so we

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started doing like Fellowship of the Fringe.

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Yeah, I've watched it a few times.

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Yeah, that's right, you were on that. Yeah, you were

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on the chat a couple of times. But that's been

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really hard to get people together. So it's because we're

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like in four different places in the US. So it's

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like it's been challenging. But I think it's just the

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season that like everybody's in. It's a like October is

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a busy busy month. If you have kids and families,

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let's like forget it, Like yeah, it's just a really

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really busy busy time. And so I've also kind of

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had like I don't know, it feels like I'm also

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kind of like, well, all right, God, now what like

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how how am I supposed to Like I kind of

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need a new recipe, you know, like I don't I

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can't just sit here and you know, be like Chris

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from Northern Exposure and just banter by myself, like I'm

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not on a live radio broadcast, you know what I mean. Like,

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so I kind of had to figure out like a

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new format. So I was really prayerful about it, and

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just like I had like a couple ideas that I

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feel like God just kind of put together. And so

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now I have this like it's more like narrative and storytelling.

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Yeah, absolutely, and cover such a wide range of topics.

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So that's kind of the thing is I'm like, well, like,

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like what's next so I have this sleepy hollow episode

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that I've been trying to produce that I'm probably gonna

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like record tomorrow. But everything's been more like I'm laying

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things out a little bit differently. Like for a while,

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I was like, Okay, well I can just because on

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the website, I have like an encounter map, and you

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can write in all of your encounters. It doesn't matter

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what it is. It can be like ghosts, it can

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be UFOs, Bigfoot dog Man, all that sort of stuff.

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And the thought behind that was listening to all these podcasts.

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Everybody has all these crazy experiences. But if we could

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put them all together in a map and look at

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like as a just a big bird's eye picture, yeah,

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maybe start seeing territories where it's like, well, wait, what's

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going on over here? Why is there so much much

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happening here? Like is that a prayer point? Do we

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need intercession there? Like? Is that something?

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Kind of more like that, but that's not really taken

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off and I don't have the time to like go

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through the BFRO and put it, you know what I mean.

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But so that's already kind of done for us. There's

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a have you ever heard of the Bigfoot Mapping project. Yeah,

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h yeah, Like he's great, he's a great guy.

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All those things are done. But like my whole thing

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was kind of more like I almost wonder if it

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just kind of became more for my own research, where

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like if I'm researching an area, I can put in

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like Okay, it's all kinds of encounters, it's not just Bigfoot.

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Yeah. I wish we did have a master.

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Yeah you know, I have it.

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I mean you do have it.

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It's built like if you go on the website you

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can see it. I mean it's definitely very like cutesy

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and cartoony, but it's kind of it's the framework is there.

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I just think, oh yeah, I mean you can go

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there right now and just be like and you put

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in your little encounter and that, and then when I

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look at it, I put it on the on the

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map so you can see like specific areas. But that

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was more for like, okay, because I started getting into

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more like like you said, like spiritual warfare, like what's

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the why behind all of this? You know, why are

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are these things happening? And not so much why because obviously,

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like if they're happening to people, then either you know,

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God's allowing it, you know, it's of God or God's

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allowing it to happen. But I think the bigger picture

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is so what, Like I love the idea that like

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everybody is, you know, really jazzed about Genesis six, and

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that's great, but so what, like, how is that helping?

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How's that helping anybody? Like I'm a I'm a hands

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and feet kind of girl. Like, if it's not helping

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people and if it's not bringing them closer to God

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and purposeful in his kingdom, then it's just fluff and

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it's just something that's going to be distracting to people.

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So that's why I personally don't get into conspiracy because

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I know it's a distraction for me, Like I.

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Think a lot of it is, Yeah, not just for you.

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I think a lot of it's a distraction for from

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the Word, from the from all the things. You know,

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this freaking map is awesome. Thanks. So yeah, I'm going

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to publish the ship out of this thing. I forget

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about it, and I'm going to add all kinds of

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stuff to it.

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My husband made. My husband worked so hard on this thing,

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and he's.

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Like, we're going to get We're going to get some

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people using this thing.

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Yeah, because I just love that. Like it was funny

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because I was doing some independent research for like another podcaster,

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and I was like, I had to look into specific

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areas for things, and I was looking at all kinds

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of different types of encounters and I was just like,

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I wish there was like a whole map where I

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could just pull the stuff up. And my husband was like,

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I can build that for you. I can do that,

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and I was like great, and then he did it,

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and it's been He's been a long time on it,

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and I'm a wizard that it's ridiculous. And then every

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time I check it, I'm like, it's like Croatian spam.

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That's all. He's got the icons. It's freaking cool.

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It's it's so it's so cute. When I originally like

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the talking, when I originally like was trying to figure

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out my branding, I was like, oh, Lisa nineteen nineties,

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Lisa Frank unicorns, and so everything kind of evolved from that. Thankfully,

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the AI illustrators are getting much better. They are and

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my prompting is getting much better, because for sure, otherwise

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at some point I'm like, maybe I should actually have

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like real life people thumbnails so that people actually look

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at the content. But whatever, I don't care. I know

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I'm the seriously the most like xenial podcaster ever. I'm like,

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I don't care if you listen to it or whatever

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do whatever, like so miserable and I don't care. I

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just love Jesus idiot.

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I love it. Oh man, No, that's great. I love that. Yeah,

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so wide range of topics. I mean, I do too, same.

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I just can't. I can't Pidgeon all myself because again,

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they all rhyme you yeah, you, they go.

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They all flow together, and it's kind of like also,

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if I'm bored, then you're bored. So like if I'm

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tired of talking about dog Man, you know, or like

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or sometimes we'll get into like I would get into

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things and I'm like, oh my gosh, like we need

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a palate cleanser. Like that. Those two episodes were super dark.

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Let's talk about Mermaids. Like, hands down, my most popular

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episode and I don't know if it's because I actually

460
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.880
have it listed as the first episode on the website

461
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:57.799
is Mermaid's Gone Wild. It's ridiculous. Hands down, the most

462
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.359
popular episode is like Me and Crystal talk about mermaids, right,

463
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.599
and like the Fiji mermaid like which was not even

464
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:08.640
a real mermaid. And we found this really funny story

465
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.160
from Florida because you know, you know, like the Florida

466
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.240
Man game, like you can look up your birthday, right,

467
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.039
So we did that and she found this incredible encounter

468
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:19.880
where like these mermaids, these women who that's their job

469
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.480
is to be mermaids on like boats, like pretty mermaids,

470
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:26.640
they got into a fight because like the one lady

471
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:28.200
called the other one like a fat mermaid, and I

472
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.039
was like, oh my gosh, it's ridiculous. And it was

473
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.400
this whole thing. She like did witchcraft on her. It

474
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.599
was like she she was like a witch and she

475
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.559
was also a mermaid and she got into this altercation

476
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:42.200
and did like all this kind of ritualistic crazy stuff

477
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.119
and her boyfriend was a cop. It was insane. It

478
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.000
was nuts. It was like a Jerry Springer Supernatural episode.

479
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.759
So no wonder people like it because it was like

480
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.000
just trash, just trash, supernatural trash.

481
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:54.000
Oh my gosh.

482
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:54.440
I know.

483
00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:04.359
One of the recent episodes the Faith Faan the Haunted World, Yeah,

484
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:09.480
with who's the guests on that? Oh, Jesse from TikTok.

485
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.759
Yes, yes, yes, the Handyman Preacher.

486
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:19.559
Yeah, so I mean exploring how mysticism and supernatural yeah

487
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.640
interact with Christianity. Yeah, I thought that was a great

488
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.039
and like, what what were some key takeaways?

489
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.279
Wait?

490
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.160
Was it imitation of mystery witchcraft wonder in the Journey

491
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.599
to Jesus that one?

492
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:35.720
Yeah? What were some key takeaways from that for you?

493
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:36.519
Like that?

494
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:44.680
So, like it's what I like. Jesse's awesome. For one, Like,

495
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.440
the cool thing is that we kind of had these

496
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:53.400
same sort of spiritual path where it's like I can't

497
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.359
really speak for him, but like something happened in childhood

498
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.559
you kind of get really drawn into this, you know,

499
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.480
just spirituality, witchcraft, all that sort of stuff. And then

500
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.759
we had a lot of synchronicities that we found like

501
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.119
as you come out of that stuff, you start seeing

502
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.519
weird things happening, Like we both had these weird encounters

503
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.279
with owls. Like it was just really really really cool

504
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.039
to talk to him, but it was more of the fellowship.

505
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.599
So that's kind of what I really I really like

506
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.920
about doing this is meeting guests and being able to

507
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:34.039
see and piece together those missing pieces, you know, like Hey,

508
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.599
maybe we didn't experience exactly the same thing, but we

509
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.000
can kind of come together and be like wow, like

510
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.799
God allowed us to experience something really really weird and

511
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.519
tangible absolutely, you know, and then to be able to

512
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.200
come out of it. And like he he does a

513
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:53.559
lot of stuff on on on TikTok, and I specifically

514
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:59.359
do not go on TikTok because it's like loaded with witchcraft,

515
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.559
like I can feel and when I say witchcraft, I'm

516
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.640
kind of I have such a weird relationship with that word.

517
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.720
So when I say that, that really just kind of

518
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.160
means that, like the Holy Spirit is like don't go on.

519
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:16.960
There's a lot of stuff Like when I had it

520
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.200
really will and when I was like considered when I

521
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.440
started this podcast, I was like all right, I even

522
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.880
brought that to God. I was like, what, like what

523
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.240
platform should I use? Like here, let me go on TikTok.

524
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.559
I've never really been on TikTok before, but I know

525
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.079
that I can like really spread the message or whatever.

526
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.839
And it was like, literally, I am not even kidding Bennett,

527
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.079
Like as soon as I started scrolling on that thing,

528
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.680
I just felt sick, like and I know with the

529
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.799
Holy Spirit that's him being like get out of here,

530
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.240
like I will make you physically sick when things are

531
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.480
not right, and so I was like, ew, what is happening?

532
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.240
Why am I feeling sick? And I was like, oh

533
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.279
my gosh, because this is like what is happening to

534
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.400
me on this app? I don't know, it's really weird.

535
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.000
I just can't. Me and TikTok are not friends, but

536
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.319
Jesse can be on there and he can make these

537
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.880
videos like while he's doing construction and he's like preaching

538
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.440
the gospel and reaching people and it's amazing. So that's

539
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.599
every episode that I do with a guest. That's my

540
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:21.519
takeaway is like how different we are in whatever it

541
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.799
is we're doing because I seem to just really have

542
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:28.680
guests that are actual content creators and like fellow podcasters,

543
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.640
I've yet to have anybody really be like I have

544
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.240
a story I want to tell you, Like I thought

545
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.319
it was going to be like Sasquatch chronicles, you know,

546
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.920
like call in and tell me your story. But people

547
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.799
just people are apprehensive so weirdly to.

548
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.599
Do that with their podcasts. But I guess that's because

549
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.119
they've been in the game for a while. So let's

550
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.599
they just people do it, right.

551
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.599
I don't know. I am the more that I kind

552
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:56.759
of think about it and pray about it, I feel

553
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.759
like maybe that's just not what God wants me to do. Like, yeah,

554
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.759
I told you about like what a guest that I

555
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.200
have lined up, and I'm shocked that this person is

556
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.839
coming on my podcast. Yeah, Like it's insane.

557
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:09.680
I mean.

558
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.079
It's I mean, I know, I think it's just because

559
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.319
I'm just like, hey, hello, Like one day I'm probably

560
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.119
just gonna like call Tony Merkle and be like you

561
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.039
wanna come hang out?

562
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.880
Yeah? No, I mean so many people, they get so

563
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.400
many weird emails, so you just have to have an

564
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.240
email that like or a gateway, you know what I mean?

565
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.559
And while the guy coming on is a gateway.

566
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.400
Yeah, but I just want to hear people's like I

567
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.960
don't know, I'm more interested in hearing like what other

568
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.880
podcasters are like. That was kind of the thought behind

569
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.039
the Fellowship of the Fringe because what I started doing

570
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:49.559
was noticing there are a lot of I guess trends

571
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.559
in this fringe weird space, and especially when the conspiracy

572
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.200
gets in, everybody wants to talk about the Nephilum. Everybody

573
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.599
wants to talk about this. Everybody wants to talk about that,

574
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.480
and like, I guess part of me because I have

575
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.920
like the ministry background now, like working at church kind

576
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.759
of like, Okay, that's great, but what are we doing

577
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.559
for How is that advancing in the kingdom? Like are

578
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.799
you seeing fruit from it? You know? Like, Okay, great,

579
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.039
you spent like, however many episodes talking about you know,

580
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.480
the Nephilum and whatever your connections. Are you seeing fruit

581
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.400
from that? Are you seeing people coming into the Lord?

582
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.640
Are people? Like? What's the response? I guess is kind

583
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.599
of always so I kind of look at it.

584
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.480
Like that, like and maybe it's just not your space.

585
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:35.279
No it's not.

586
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:40.400
Yeah, so like I get a lot of it, but

587
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.160
it's again it's it's just your thing, you know, and

588
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.000
what you're either told or called to do or whatever

589
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.680
you can't really question. I mean you could question it,

590
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:55.240
but why just go Yeah? Right? I love I love

591
00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:02.359
them from the Christian Dark Web. Guys are awesome. I

592
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:07.720
had them on my show so great, but oh my gosh,

593
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.319
she's in Texas right and she had thunderstorms roll through.

594
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:17.880
So it ended up basically being a Kelly yeah. Yeah,

595
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:25.519
unfortunately she was on like ten minutes of the episode.

596
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:26.279
Yeah, yeah, we have.

597
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.599
To redo it. We have to not redo it, but

598
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:29.200
do another.

599
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.240
Yeah. Definitely those guys, yeah, because they're awesome. Ricky and

600
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.359
Shelly are just fantastic. Yeah.

601
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.440
So that was a great podcast.

602
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.519
But you know, and they died and there they dive

603
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.880
into like the deep stuff Like I'm not doing that either.

604
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.839
I'm just kind of like, you know, yeah, but farming,

605
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.720
maltage or something. I just want to sit and talk

606
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:53.720
to people. Yeah, Diane Sawyer of the Fringe Space. My gosh,

607
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:54.680
I'm aging myself.

608
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.079
Yeah. What was the other so that I listened to

609
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.079
of yours? I think it was Haunted New England something

610
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:11.240
like that. Oh yeah, Joe, I'm from New England originally,

611
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.039
so I all the stories. I love it.

612
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.799
Yeah. Oh yeah, shout out to Joe from uh from Trails,

613
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.519
Tales and Taverns. He's got a great podcast and he's

614
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.559
a veteran too. Yeah.

615
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.039
Yeah, it's it's a I got to get him on.

616
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.559
He's fantastic. I love him.

617
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.799
Actually, got to write that down. I'll forget.

618
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.400
That was a great come. We had fun. So and

619
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.480
that's the thing too, like that's the other thing that

620
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.359
just I'm like, Okay, well, you know, he he's not

621
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.519
like he doesn't have a Christian podcast, but he's experiencing

622
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.160
supernatural stuff. Like that's the big point, right, is that

623
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.000
we live in such a supernatural world. And part of

624
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.960
I think my heart for this this space is that

625
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:01.240
more people who are looking and searching, because that's happening exponentially.

626
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.440
We're seeing people looking and searching for answers and coming

627
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.679
to churches with answers or with questions that they're probably

628
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.480
just like I don't really know. So I wanted this

629
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.679
podcast to be something that like, hey, maybe you you know,

630
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.360
I feel like it's going that direction, Like maybe you

631
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.400
know someone at church that's kind of like, you know,

632
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.000
goth and coming out of like weird witchy stuff and

633
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.679
they had these weird experiences. This is a place where

634
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.320
they can come and kind of get like a little

635
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.119
bit of an understanding of what that stuff means because

636
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:39.079
it's hard, it's hard to explain. You know, I loved you.

637
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.639
Just didn't you just do an episode about the Witch

638
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:43.920
of Endor? Did you do that?

639
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:52.239
Oh? Yeah, I did. Everything's blending together now, because that's

640
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.519
that's I do a Sunday Supernatural Bible thing and yeah,

641
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.559
the Witch of Endor and that's from which which book is.

642
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:04.559
I'm like, wait, the Witch.

643
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:07.280
The Witch e vandor.

644
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.239
Isn't that Daniel.

645
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.239
Man oh Man. I just literally just did it?

646
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:25.199
Come on, Samuel? Just kidding, Daniel, Daniel, it's in for

647
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.280
Samuel twenty seven thirty one.

648
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:27.639
Yeah.

649
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.360
So, like so one of the episodes that I was doing.

650
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:37.639
It's funny because I had what I'm trying to think

651
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.800
of which episode it was. I wanted to really God

652
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.079
has been putting witchcraft on my heart like crazy, like

653
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.920
to pray against witchcraft. And then also like there's just

654
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.159
something and for a long time, and I'm talking like

655
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.800
a year, like for a long time, I was just

656
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.480
like I don't want to talk about it because I

657
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.119
don't really know what it is. But something is weird

658
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.800
about witchcraft and that sounds it. Yeah, sure, But like

659
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.480
when you start coming into this space from that space,

660
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.599
like I wasn't I mean, I wasn't in like you know,

661
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.639
I wasn't a Luciferian r Like I was just like

662
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.719
the girl from the Craft, like I wanted to put

663
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.239
love spells on people and bind my enemies and be

664
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.400
powerful because I had a horrible childhood. Yeah, and I

665
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.639
was a little like goth girl that wanted to listen

666
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.840
to metal. So that was it, you know what I mean.

667
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:26.199
But I was still changing atmospheres in rooms that I

668
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.960
was in. I was manipulating people with my little whatever

669
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:33.039
I mean I could there was there were things that

670
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.800
I could do that was complete straight witchcraft because it

671
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.639
was manipulation. I was manipulating the outcome. And it was

672
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.079
crazy because recently I had this on my heart, this

673
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.079
big prior burden to just pray against witchcraft. And I'm like, God,

674
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.639
what is this about? And I so when I was

675
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.920
doing this episode, I'm trying to figure out which one

676
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.000
it is I just did. I was talking to a

677
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.880
lady at my church who's like my one of my

678
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.960
spiritual like my spiritual mom, and I was explaining to

679
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.599
her the things that I've been praying for and against

680
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:05.559
and stuff like that, and she was like, whoa wait

681
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.119
a second, She's like, you can't pray that, And I

682
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.960
was like why because I was praying for like basically

683
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.559
that somebody wouldn't. I'm trying to think of how to

684
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:17.920
word it.

685
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:20.840
I was.

686
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.840
I was praying that like whatever somebody was doing, like

687
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.480
in preparation for something that they that it would be

688
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.079
shut down because what they were doing, like you know

689
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.760
whatever because it wasn't a Christian saying or whatever. She

690
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.519
was like, you can't, she's a Christiana. You can't pray that.

691
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.639
And I was like why and she's like that goes.

692
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:45.639
She's like, that's witchcraft. You're praying to God to manipulate

693
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:51.159
God to change an outcome of a non believer. That's

694
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:52.880
not And I.

695
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.199
Was like, oh, yeah, right.

696
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:02.199
I'm still doing witchcraft like that it is. And so

697
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.199
but that's the thing, right, So that was my I'm

698
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.320
trying to think, oh it was it was my recent episode.

699
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.679
So it's the Banshee and the Bread of Heaven, right,

700
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.639
So I get into like, so what I want to

701
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.159
do is kind of start touching on these topics instead

702
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.159
of because what I noticed when I got saved and

703
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:21.599
then I would get on the internet and I would

704
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.599
find a lot of Christian not even quote air quote

705
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.280
Christians because they are Christians, but a lot of Christian

706
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:31.719
influencers who are ex New Age X witches and all

707
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.000
they do is Halloween is bad, like all that you

708
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:37.239
see that all over the place.

709
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.480
Aroun Now it's like the reform smoker, like or yeah, alcoholic,

710
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:44.360
you know, recovering alcoholic.

711
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.079
They go so hard, they go way too hard.

712
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.639
And then they go over over blown, over way overboard.

713
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.519
And again maybe that's just maybe I feel that because

714
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.360
I'm not called to that, Like I'm definitely not called

715
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.320
to be that way, Like I would not want to

716
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.880
be that way because it was so I those were

717
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.360
the people that made me not want to be near Jesus,

718
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.159
like that witness was not good to me, like I didn't.

719
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.480
I mean, I was very The blasphemy and the hatred

720
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.960
towards the Lord that came out of my mouth when

721
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.039
I was in that space is terrible, and he's amazing

722
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.920
and merciful and he doesn't even let me feel bothered

723
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.480
by it anymore, Like he doesn't let me sit and

724
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.280
wallow in it because he knows that I would. But

725
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.000
it's just that thing. Like so I'm kind of in

726
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.840
this place where like I want to reconcile that I

727
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.280
want to talk about witchcraft. I want to talk about

728
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:45.000
like what happened in Salem, Like something weird happened there.

729
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.599
It wasn't just about the politics, like there was a

730
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:52.119
serious spirit that was among them that I think is

731
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.159
really was a religious spirit, Like they were not preaching

732
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.360
Jesus Like this is before people could read like you

733
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.880
know what I mean, it's just like what happened there.

734
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.079
And now when you go to Salem, it's this whole

735
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.159
big Halloween town. And I have a lot of friends

736
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.280
that go to Salem and they love it. And of

737
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:11.800
course we're not going to get to the bottom of

738
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.920
it because it's a money maker. And that's the same

739
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.440
thing I told Joe, like when I was on his podcast,

740
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.559
it was like, of course we don't want to like

741
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.400
get to the bottom of the conjuring house and break

742
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.199
whatever curse that is on the land because it makes money. Yeah,

743
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.559
you know. Yeah, So that's kind of where I am.

744
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.320
Where I'm just like, well, let's be realistic about this stuff.

745
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.719
So Sam and Kolby is that they're named Cob Cody,

746
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:42.440
those two guys on Instagram, on Instagram, on YouTube, they're

747
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.599
like they used to do like they're young guys. One's beyond,

748
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:48.800
one's dark haired, and they used to go they did

749
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.840
a whole they do what they call Hell Week every year, okay,

750
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.360
and they did it a few years ago at the

751
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.440
Conjuring House. Okay, well you know the Conjuring House is

752
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.880
up for again.

753
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:03.400
By Yeah.

754
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.880
Yeah, So anyway, Sam mc coolby, I think that's what

755
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.119
it is. The show. I mean, my daughter and I

756
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.079
watch it every once in a while. But they're a

757
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:16.039
little out there. You know. They probably dabble into some

758
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.639
of the witchcraft. That's as more of the stuff that

759
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:24.039
they you know, they're opening doors that they shouldn't, right, right,

760
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.239
So but anyway, it's entertaining at least.

761
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.159
Yeah, And I mean for me, I want to lay

762
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:31.719
that ground work, like I want this to be a

763
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.320
place where you can come and tell your weird experiences.

764
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:35.840
But you're going to leave. I'm going to still tell

765
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.960
you about Jesus like you might not even do it

766
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.039
on the air. I might pray with you later on,

767
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.679
you know. But the weirdest supernatural stuff happens in the Bible,

768
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.079
and we believe a god who literally came back from

769
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.800
the dead and is alive now and I have his

770
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.760
spirit with me, So I mean, come on.

771
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.000
Guys, it's very supernatural.

772
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:56.679
How weird is how weird? Are we?

773
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.320
Yeah? It's the It's the most supernatural book out there.

774
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.280
It's crazy and if you look at it, but it

775
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.480
takes it takes time to be able to see it

776
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:07.000
that way.

777
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:08.960
Yeah, because I.

778
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.559
Sure didn't for years and you know, decades, So I

779
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.239
I mean I always kind of thought there was that

780
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.159
component to it, but nobody would teach it. Nobody would

781
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.440
teach me, and I didn't know how to even start

782
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:26.079
to look at it from that aspect until you know,

783
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.719
a few years ago, and now it's like, well, I

784
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.000
can't see it any other way.

785
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.920
I think. I think sometimes you don't, like, at least

786
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:34.519
for me, it's like you don't want to be wrong.

787
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:36.440
Like for a long time, I was like, I don't

788
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.360
want to be wrong. I don't want to be I

789
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.960
don't want to be a heretic. I don't want to

790
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.920
you know, you get afraid to question and to really

791
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.039
just kind of say, well, wait a second. I want

792
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.480
to have an open dialogue, like I want to understand,

793
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.719
Like I would love to have someone come on that's

794
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.480
like a witch or you know whatever.

795
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.280
Hey, you know I'm actually having one on.

796
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.519
That's fantastic Wednesday.

797
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.639
Yeah, So if you're I'll see how it goes. And

798
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.519
if you want, I can.

799
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.039
Just to just to have the conversation of like, hey,

800
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.039
well wait a second. You know all things, and I

801
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.119
don't want to sit here and on and think that

802
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.280
you're going to put a curse on me, because you

803
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.800
know what I mean, Like, not everyone who is into

804
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:24.320
witchcraft does that. There are definitely those that do, but

805
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.880
there are also a lot of just deceived people out there,

806
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.199
like I was, you know, that wouldn't necessarily sit and

807
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.679
curse a Christian, but I would listen politely to you

808
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.719
and then you know, tell you to f off, like

809
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:41.239
outside of a metal show, because I'm trying to listen

810
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:45.039
to satanic black metal, so please please. I thought, Jesus

811
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.840
is not welcome here, and there's and if you go,

812
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:48.719
if you go my personal which I don't really put

813
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.239
my personal instagram on blast, but like the reason, there's

814
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.480
a lot, there's a ton in the bottom of that

815
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:55.360
where it's like.

816
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.039
Whoa, and you scroll down you can see the.

817
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.840
Trends, you see the permission and I'm like, I'm not

818
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.599
getting rid of that because that girl. I feel so

819
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.559
bad for that girl. Yeah, she really did need Jesus.

820
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:10.039
And look at that. You brought up owls, Dark Dark Knight.

821
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.039
You brought up owls what's what's your when you have

822
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.639
a story about owls?

823
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.920
All right, so this is see, this is what this

824
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:19.599
is where I get into trouble because I'm like, all right,

825
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.920
I don't want to get this is why I love

826
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.079
the idea of like let's let's talk about the superstitions,

827
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.440
but let's not live there. Yeah, let's not live there.

828
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.039
Let's talk about like, you know, yeah this possibly could

829
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:34.880
have happened, you could have been cursed, but let's not

830
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.199
live there. Like when I had Bo Kennedy on, I

831
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.079
was like, you're not we're not talking about Lilith. But

832
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.599
even though we'd started, we did.

833
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.119
You know I too.

834
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.440
So that's the thing, like I have, I have a

835
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:50.039
lot of like I have like a shadow person entity story.

836
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:51.960
I don't have a big foot story, but like I

837
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:56.400
definitely have supernatural paranormal experiences. So everyone kind of has

838
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:59.400
their own little tipping point that they come into the

839
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:04.199
conversation with. But for me, with the owl thing, I

840
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.400
noticed and I started writing it down. But what I

841
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.360
would notice is after we would have really good conversations

842
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.400
and stuff like that, there would be an owl. I

843
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.119
would hear an owl outside and it was just like

844
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.400
a barred owl, but it just seemed like it was

845
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.239
always at those times, and I don't know what that means.

846
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.400
I don't want to think. I mean, I have this

847
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.199
whole book it's like owls and synchronicities, and it's like, okay,

848
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.719
we can we can try to figure this out a

849
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.519
million different ways. But if I'm not going to God

850
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.159
about it and asking the Holy Spirit, is this something

851
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:36.639
that I really need to be bothered with?

852
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:37.280
Right?

853
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.599
Or is this something if I don't need to be bothered?

854
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.000
But if this is none of my business, then't take

855
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.280
this away? Like why am I obsessed? Why is this

856
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.159
weird to me? So I finally did that and it

857
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.719
was just like, maybe it's just an owl. Maybe it

858
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.840
is just a coincidence. I know, we love the idea

859
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.159
that not everything is a coincidence, but sometimes I don't know.

860
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:58.679
Sometimes it just is.

861
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.360
Maybe it is. I don't no. I could sit here

862
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.159
and drive myself crazy about it, or I can read

863
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.079
my Bible, you know, and try to figure out what's

864
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.920
going on with the Witch of Endor, because I love

865
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:09.440
that story.

866
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:11.679
It's crazy story, it really is.

867
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.280
I am so yeah in that in the last podcast,

868
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.000
I wanted to really talk about it, but I was

869
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.440
just like, I held myself back because you're I was like,

870
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.960
you're rambling, like you're trying to justify this witch in

871
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.119
this medium. But the main point of the story is

872
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.400
she had no idea what she was doing and what

873
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.239
she was playing with, and she was surprised.

874
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.920
That he opened a door that she could not shut.

875
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.360
And she was she was.

876
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:45.920
And it was a Stamuel because God allowed her and

877
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:46.960
God used her.

878
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:47.639
Yep.

879
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.440
So I mean, I kind of I can get into

880
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.519
all that too, where I just think a lot of

881
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.199
the stuff that the enemy does and manipulates is our

882
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.639
gifts are true gifting from God that he will just

883
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.840
astore and and mess around with and confuse us with.

884
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.280
Yeah, or it blows up in their face, or it

885
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:08.000
happens a lot.

886
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.559
Yeah. Actually, so yeah, yeah, the Witch of Endor.

887
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.400
Yeah, Samuel one is a little wild, I mean, and

888
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.239
I yeah, every week, I've got another one coming out

889
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:27.840
next week too. I don't even know what it might be.

890
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.599
Like Kings oh nice, Oh yeah, Kis is wild too.

891
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.480
Yeah, And there's a few of them right in a row.

892
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.000
But I you know, it's all Old Testament. And then

893
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.079
I'll do then I'll jump to the new basically, I

894
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:46.440
have a six months of episodes. That's awesome, uh, packed

895
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.760
out for that whole series. So, and it's not every

896
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:51.920
single book in the Bible because some of them just

897
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.639
aren't you know, but some of them are. You know,

898
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.800
most of them do have a where I got the

899
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:03.360
I stole the idea to an extent because you know

900
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.519
it was from Ed Maybury. I don't know.

901
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.440
Okay, yes, well there's nothing new under the Suns, No,

902
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:10.239
not at all.

903
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:16.000
So he I listened to his Uh, I do his

904
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.159
Bible study. Okay, he does every Sunday, it's like every

905
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.239
couple of weeks, and that's what he does. He goes

906
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.840
through the Bible and from a supernatural point of view, period.

907
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.679
And so I was like, I'm I need to do

908
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.400
this just so I and it's it's also a learning

909
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.400
tool for me because it forces me to go back

910
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.119
in and take notes and write and.

911
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:38.960
You have to read it.

912
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:39.719
I have to read it.

913
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.360
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Like that's kind of what

914
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:45.800
I'm trying to do. I'm sorry, I'm putting a light

915
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:46.360
on because.

916
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.880
I know no, but it's more for me than it

917
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:49.400
is for anybody, you know.

918
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.480
Right exactly, Like you're learning it too. That's what I'm

919
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:56.440
kind of trying to do, is like just having these

920
00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.679
little like biblical snippets. So it's like, okay, great, let's

921
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.880
look at Appalachian granny magic, like you know that.

922
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.519
Happens target Rich.

923
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.920
Oh it is all right, I'm putting this lane on.

924
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.480
There we go. I know, Appalachia is just amazing.

925
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:16.840
Man, It's just crazy.

926
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.320
But like, I mean, that's the thing, right, like when

927
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.280
you get into folklore and superstition and all that stuff

928
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:28.719
and that granny magic. Like those women, they they weren't Satanists.

929
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.480
You know, a lot of them were Christian and a

930
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:33.440
lot of them just knew how to use herbs and

931
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.039
had a heel. And you know, I always joke about

932
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.840
like my spiritual mom at were at church. Literally I

933
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.599
was running a camera and like I tore something in

934
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:48.159
my leg and she was like, oh, here, I've got this,

935
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.679
let me put this on you. And she's like rubbing

936
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:52.639
my leg and I knew as she was doing it

937
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:56.480
she was praying, And sure enough, one hour later I

938
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:00.480
was able to walk normally again. You know. Was that magic? No,

939
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.440
that was the power of the Holy Spirit in her.

940
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.480
Also amazing herb that God made so I kind of

941
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.199
have a little bit of I don't know, don't throw

942
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.039
the baby out with the bath water with that kind

943
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.320
of you know, it's really just been on my heart.

944
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.920
I think it's probably because it's a Halloween season, like

945
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:21.519
everyone's freaking out about that too, and I like last

946
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.280
year I was kind of like, you know, I really

947
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.360
I do have a hard time with Halloween. I think

948
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.880
it's because I don't specifically really want to do all

949
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:34.400
the stuff that I used to do, Like, you know,

950
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.599
I'm not gonna I don't know. I mean we still

951
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.760
liked my son still goes trick or treating, Yeah, but I.

952
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.760
Mean I still do the same thing too. We get

953
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:43.960
out there and give out care.

954
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:48.159
Yeah, but now it's evangelistic, Like I have one hundred

955
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.079
candy bags that we're gonna put together that have like

956
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:56.719
a Bible track and an invite card to church because

957
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.360
you're coming to my house, you're gonna you're gonna get

958
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.960
God Like that's what you get here. Yeah, you know,

959
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:05.599
I'm going to walk my neighborhood and I'm definitely I

960
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.239
am going to Like I did you know, I've been

961
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:11.320
praying against any sort of whatever spirits you know that

962
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:15.800
are happening, but you know, are there are there devil

963
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.280
worshipers on my street? I don't know.

964
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.639
Maybe you never know you're but.

965
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.480
But I mean, if I'm prayed up in general, any

966
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.039
day of the year, like Halloween is not going to matter.

967
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.760
So that's kind of been I don't know.

968
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.320
I get conflict too. To get the conflict definitely because

969
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:41.440
I'm a what you would call a former reiki practitioner. Okay,

970
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.760
and you know, I was anointed and did the whole thing,

971
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.000
all the things and all the education, went through all

972
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.239
of it, and okay, you know, whatever the hell they

973
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:53.559
call it.

974
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.440
I wanted to do that master. I really thought that

975
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:57.559
that was where I was going to be.

976
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.639
Yeah, but what I found is that crazy. I just

977
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:03.840
don't and I'm not going to say that I don't

978
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.639
do it anymore. I don't do reiki though. I don't

979
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.880
do it. I don't use the symbols, I don't think

980
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.280
about them, I don't use anything. Yeah, what I do

981
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:19.960
is I just channel. I'm I'm literally asking the Holy

982
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.840
Spirit to help me. That's what I'm just So if

983
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.360
I'm doing that, how can it be wrong? That's kind

984
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.519
of how I look at it, and I help people

985
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:33.320
all the time. So well, people can say whatever they want,

986
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.199
but at the end of the day, I know where

987
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.199
my heart's at and I know where it's coming from,

988
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:41.440
and I'm not it's not the same. It's not it's

989
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:42.360
not like you used to be.

990
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.719
So I've had I mean that's I had a really

991
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:53.239
crazy encounter with Reiki and this, so I when I

992
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.519
just told the story, it's it all kind of goes together.

993
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.920
Like Actually, I was on Joe's podcast and told my story,

994
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.480
which was also really cool because I'm going on like

995
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:07.880
a you know, a hauntings podcast and I'm talking about Jesus.

996
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.880
So that's what's really fun to me is if I

997
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.000
wouldn't have had all these like paranormal, weird experiences, I

998
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.280
wouldn't be able to share them and relate to people.

999
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.360
You know, So God will use that if he allowed it.

1000
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.239
I don't know, but I had those experiences and then

1001
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:25.880
I'm able to talk about it. It's part of my testimony.

1002
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.559
So I was going through a really bad postpartum depression

1003
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.840
after I had my son. And people don't tell you this, like,

1004
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.119
but so I I was still nursing him when he

1005
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.800
was two because I was like huge hippie and like

1006
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.840
all the all the all the stuff, like all the granola,

1007
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.960
total mom like all that stuff. And so after that,

1008
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:51.400
like nobody tells. They tell you like postpartum, like after

1009
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:52.960
you have the baby, but they don't really tell you

1010
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.840
like after you start weaning and you're getting into that,

1011
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.960
like you know, your your body is changing hormonally. It

1012
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:04.119
is rough, and I was in a really awful spot.

1013
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:08.400
I was over drinking. I was like completely just getting

1014
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.800
drunk every night. I was bartending, like my you know,

1015
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:14.639
I needed to go back to work. So I was

1016
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:19.239
in the whole like cool metal bartender scene, you know,

1017
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:25.199
in Baltimore again, and so it was really really rough,

1018
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.480
and I was doing like a lot of you know,

1019
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.960
like kitchen which, you know, mad whatever, all that sort

1020
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.119
of stuff, staging. I'm the spiritual person in the house.

1021
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.119
Like my husband was like God bless him because he's

1022
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:41.760
dealt with and stuck by me. But you know, that

1023
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.760
was like my whole thing, right like oh oh the energy.

1024
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.840
I'm so I know the energy and I can get

1025
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.559
rid of the energy. And I really started getting on

1026
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.360
that path where I was spiritual, you know, but not religious,

1027
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.760
and I really wanted to like understand how I could

1028
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.760
use energy to heal people like that. That totally makes

1029
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.639
sense to me. Yeah, So I was going through just

1030
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:07.320
this really really rough time and I found myself getting angry.

1031
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.039
I was always angry with God, but then I was

1032
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.000
also really angry, which is hilarious because it's like I

1033
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:15.880
don't believe in you, but I'm mad at you. It's

1034
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.239
like we're such temperature, like little babies, but like I

1035
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.719
was God's teenager, and like I would just get really

1036
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:28.159
frustrated with I think the people in that space too,

1037
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.360
like the New Age space, because that was never because

1038
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.880
it's such a trap and it's like even then, you

1039
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.159
feel like you're not enough. And in my mind I

1040
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.639
had this the enemy was just like you're not enough,

1041
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.360
Like that was the seed that was planted from seven on.

1042
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.360
You're not enough, You're not enough, You're not enough. You're terrible,

1043
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.400
like just gnattering constantly. So I would drink to draw

1044
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.559
that out and just didn't want to deal with any

1045
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:58.639
of it. And so I had this. I had a

1046
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:02.000
friend who was having a bachelor party and she was

1047
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.920
having it in the woods. It was going to be

1048
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:09.599
this whole like holistic retreat, like there's a Reichi healer there,

1049
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.719
like her friend was doing Reichi all of this stuff.

1050
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.840
There's like a package you probably know all that stuff,

1051
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:17.960
like here's what you can get. She's going to do

1052
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.760
all this energy healing. And the whole time before we

1053
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.159
went on the retreat, I drove everyone nuts because I

1054
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:27.400
kept saying like, well, what are we going to do

1055
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:30.880
to protect ourselves? Like how are we protecting ourselves? And

1056
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.280
they were like what are you talking about? Like shut up, Christina,

1057
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.519
We're trying to have a nice time, Like We're just

1058
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.159
gonna do yoga on a mountain and do energy healing

1059
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.159
and it's going to be great and every you know,

1060
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.599
we'll solve all the world's problems. And I'm like, no, no, no,

1061
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.679
who's like is there going to be Who's is someone

1062
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.960
casting a circle? Because I still had that like witchy mentalic.

1063
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.719
I knew I knew something had to happen. I knew

1064
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.360
that there were I feel like I always knew that

1065
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.519
there was rules. But when you're in that, like so

1066
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.360
this is kind of where it gets interesting. And I

1067
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.199
never really put this together until now, is that when

1068
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.599
you're in all that stuff, like you're you don't realize

1069
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:11.039
that you are in spiritual warfare and that you're operating

1070
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:13.760
on the other side. Because you think that you have

1071
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:18.400
this power, and you get this power, you're given glimpses

1072
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:21.599
of like oh yeah, oh man, that did work, Like, yeah,

1073
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.800
that did work. Maybe that's why I'm so susceptible to

1074
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:27.880
like is that a superstition or is that a synchronicity,

1075
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.559
because I have had experiences where I've been able to

1076
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.800
manipulate the way people think in order to change an outcome,

1077
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.119
Like I've been able to do that. So it's like, Okay,

1078
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.079
did I have do I have the power? Like whatever?

1079
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:42.519
You know what I mean? Like you think that because

1080
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.880
you're because the Devil's like, oh yeah, you did it,

1081
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.320
good job. Hey great. So everyone's like, well, what are

1082
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.519
you talking about? Like no, we're not. We're just going

1083
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.920
to go have a good time, like stop being Even then,

1084
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.199
I'm talking to a bunch of people that are doing

1085
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.079
reiche and they're telling me like, you're being weird. You know,

1086
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.039
come on, you're being weird. Nothing's going to happen, It's fine,

1087
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.559
you know whatever. But the whole time, something in me

1088
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.719
was just like, what are you what's going to protect you?

1089
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:17.119
What's going to protect It's going to happen until it does, right, Yeah.

1090
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.079
But that question was like what is going to protect

1091
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.360
you kept coming up and I was just like, I

1092
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.960
don't know. I guess I'll have to do it. I'll

1093
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.159
have to like draw the circle or whatever, you know,

1094
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.280
all that stuff. And so we get there and everyone's

1095
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.800
like drinking and having a good time, and I was

1096
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.639
I was so aggravated. Like I had a friend who

1097
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.559
was a Christian. She was coming back from like mission trips.

1098
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.119
She was a really really good friend of mine, and

1099
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.400
I was I was like talking to her about like

1100
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.760
just being angry about God in general. Something happened and

1101
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.960
something had set me off, and I was really just

1102
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:55.679
kind of aggravated with God in general. So I took

1103
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.760
it out on my only Christian friend. So I was

1104
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.199
doing that, and then I found myself as a night

1105
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.320
going on, I didn't trust the girl that was doing

1106
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.960
the Reichy energy healing and I thought all that was

1107
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.880
BS and I was just like, man, this like everything sucks,

1108
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.559
Like all this is crap, Like nothing makes sense. And

1109
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:18.039
I was getting like really angry and annoyed, and my

1110
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.960
friend and I just kind of were both at and

1111
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.079
I and I did get like a session done with her,

1112
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.000
and I was just like I had walls put up,

1113
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:26.760
and I was like, this is just such bull crap,

1114
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:30.559
Like I can't even like whatever, dude, you know, you

1115
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:32.400
don't know what you're doing and I don't trust you,

1116
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.039
and so I'm just gonna I don't even know why

1117
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.280
I'm doing this, but whatever, you know. She was like,

1118
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:40.000
did you have a traumatic pregnancy and childbirth? And I'm like,

1119
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:43.039
who didn't? This is ridiculous, Like you know, but take

1120
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.440
my money. I don't know which, like why am I

1121
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:51.440
doing this? And so like I finally get to the

1122
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.079
point where like me and my friend, I'm like, let's

1123
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.440
just go make a fire. Let's go outside, like let's

1124
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.320
be out in the woods and stuff. And so we

1125
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.320
build this fire. Everyone else inside having a good time.

1126
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.440
She and I are outside like smoking cigarettes and you know,

1127
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.480
with the fire, and we're sitting there and all of

1128
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:11.039
a sudden, like at the same time, we're both just

1129
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:15.800
kind of like, Okay, do you feel that. I'm like,

1130
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.800
do you feel that? And she's like yeah, And I'm

1131
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.400
like it feels like we're surrounded, doesn't it. And she's like, yeah,

1132
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:23.039
I was like, it feels like something is coming out

1133
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.079
of the woods. So we're sitting and it just felt

1134
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:32.400
like something, this presence, like a palpable presence, was surrounding us,

1135
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.679
and it was getting darker and darker and more and

1136
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.159
more oppressive. And I was just like, okay, this is

1137
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.159
I freaked out. Like so we kind of decided, well,

1138
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.039
maybe it's just because she doesn't know what she's doing

1139
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:48.599
in there and she's releasing all this energy and there's

1140
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:51.920
no covering and what you know, we're trying to rationalize

1141
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.559
it without Jesus and without the framework of spiritual warfare.

1142
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.920
So whatever. So as I tell this story, it's funny,

1143
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.280
like it's I kind of tell the story a lot,

1144
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:07.519
and I it it becomes clearer as I the more

1145
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.280
I tell it, like the more people I talk to

1146
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.320
about it, like what exactly happened? So we just I

1147
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.079
was like, okay, well I have to just get drunk

1148
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.920
to deal with this, like I can't. Like that was

1149
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.440
who I was, you know, that's who I was. Yeah,

1150
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.000
I was like, it's gonna you know, I don't want

1151
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.000
to deal with this because now I feel like something

1152
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:27.639
is like it was just it was crazy. I can't

1153
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.679
even explain the way that I felt, but it was

1154
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:33.000
just like it was like a blanket of darkness was

1155
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:37.800
just covering us, and it was terrifying. And we try

1156
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.119
to tell the people that we were there with there's

1157
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.480
like twenty girls doing all this like weird stuff, and

1158
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.880
they're like, oh gosh, you guys are so weird, and

1159
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.360
we're like, what.

1160
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.199
You're ruining our good time?

1161
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.800
I'm we're having like a tremendous supernatural experience right now,

1162
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:55.519
and we're the weird ones. What did you guys come

1163
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.800
here for? You know, like to I don't. I don't understand.

1164
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:02.360
Like I was like, isn't this what we wanted to experience?

1165
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:07.559
And so I was freaked out and like I thankfully

1166
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.000
had my own tent and just like camped outside. And

1167
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.360
then like the next day it was just kind of

1168
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.519
like whatever, we're doing yoga, we're trying to like I

1169
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:16.159
don't even know. I was like hungover and trying to

1170
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.480
probably recalibrate what was going on. And then when we

1171
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.960
finally left the following day, she and I and this

1172
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:26.400
is up in the mountains, so you know, we're coming

1173
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.119
down from this mountainous area and it gets to a

1174
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.039
certain point and I look at her and we look

1175
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.719
at each other and I was like, it's gone. Like

1176
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.039
you could feel it all the way down the mountain.

1177
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.320
And then finally it was like we hit this one

1178
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:44.440
town and it was like it was gone. And so

1179
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.880
you know, let's think about that like as a as

1180
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:51.800
a new Christian fast forward, because this was the catalyst

1181
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.760
of like, this is when things started spiraling in my

1182
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.400
life like crazy, like I had to get something done

1183
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.880
because this was like it was just too much. After

1184
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:12.480
so Deep Creek, Okay, yeah, Deep Creek, Maryland, hang on

1185
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:17.880
just a second, a right, Sorry, my jog was trying

1186
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.079
to like get into the that was that loud noise.

1187
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.039
I have a very loud lab and he was trying

1188
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:29.079
to break through the door and I was like, oh, okay, yeah. Anyway,

1189
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:32.320
so after that, I definitely had like a hitchhiker or

1190
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:36.920
something like that, that something attached and I blamed it

1191
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:41.639
on whatever she was taking off of people. But the

1192
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.880
more that I tell the story and the more that

1193
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.119
I kind of fellowship with others, I realized that it

1194
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:50.239
was a principality, like I had gotten the attention of something. Now,

1195
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.360
this is obviously not to say that I'm important enough,

1196
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:53.280
you know what I mean, Like.

1197
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.280
No, I understand it. I mean there's levels right, it's

1198
01:03:56.320 --> 01:04:00.960
not and it doesn't. It's not directly correlated to just

1199
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.320
because it was a prince. If it was a principality,

1200
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.239
it was something to me, like you're possessed. It just

1201
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.719
means that you're being there's like something.

1202
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.920
So what I had gotten the attention of something because

1203
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:20.800
I'm you know, I'm pity. It could be anything, right,

1204
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.039
I'm playing around with this like idiot stuff, and I'm

1205
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:30.159
also like being completely blasphemous to the god of the universe, which.

1206
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.599
They love, so you could have had multiple doors open exactly.

1207
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:37.840
I was just like, you're like, come on right, an idiot,

1208
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:42.599
idiot vessel. And so that's when that when that's when

1209
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:44.760
things really kicked in the high gear. Like I was

1210
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.480
just I came back from that trip wrecked, like I

1211
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:51.760
was just I was seeing shadow people like you know,

1212
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:54.320
or just a shadow figure in my house. And it

1213
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.599
was so lame because I would just be like, oh,

1214
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:58.880
I'm cooking and I'm drinking a whole box of wine

1215
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.519
and let me stay I can see you. Like I'd

1216
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:03.320
get drunk and be like I can see you like

1217
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:07.039
you have no power here, you know, flipendo, here's my

1218
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:12.280
sage stick, right, you know, like I'm cleansing the space

1219
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.280
and I'm just like, no, you're not doing anything, and

1220
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.840
honestly like no offense like some people can use stage

1221
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:22.320
like I personally like since my journey, I've taken that

1222
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.320
to the Holy Spirit and he was like, yeah, no,

1223
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:30.000
like incense, fine, like I burn Frank and sense mourt

1224
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:36.559
incense all the time, but Sage, I don't have permission

1225
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.719
to burn because I had made such an idol out

1226
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.639
of it that it's something that is just not even

1227
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:49.159
like why, you know. But so yeah, I just kind

1228
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.599
of after that trip, everything just kind of got worse

1229
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:53.599
and worse and worse. And then of course I'm thinking like, okay,

1230
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:56.639
is the house haunted, Like I'll have to take care

1231
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.239
of that, you know, because I'm at that point, I

1232
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.679
was thinking maybe I'm an mpath. Maybe I can get

1233
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:06.679
into Reichi, like I told the story on Joe's podcast,

1234
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:08.400
So like when I went to Gettysburg and I was like,

1235
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.679
it's okay, civil War ghosts, I'm an mpath and I'm

1236
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:17.960
here to help. So if anybody I'm the government, idiot.

1237
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:20.360
I am this, I am the government, and I'm here

1238
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:23.039
to help. No close the door. What an idiot like

1239
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:26.000
you know that's just but again, you don't have that framework,

1240
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.760
if you don't have the framework of no, this is

1241
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.199
supernatural and this is spiritual warfare and it's no joke.

1242
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:35.960
Like that's the urgency that I feel in my spirit

1243
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:36.920
is not your.

1244
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.840
Stay right in your in your whole thing like you.

1245
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.239
You have to be you have to be prepared and ready.

1246
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.519
Oh I wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit. I was

1247
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:49.960
just like an empty vessel of like demons or whatever, Like, no,

1248
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:52.760
who does that? And then we went back I mean

1249
01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:55.159
we I mean that story hasn't a happier ending because

1250
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:57.400
we did go back to Gettysburg. Like since I've been

1251
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.320
saved and I'm just like, hooray, I'm having a great time,

1252
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000
like nothing happens, because I wasn't like, come get me, ghosts.

1253
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:09.480
You know I can help you, I will save you.

1254
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.599
You want you're not going I'm I'm Zelda from Poltergeist,

1255
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:15.639
that little old lady.

1256
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.119
Oh, oh my gosh, she's the best.

1257
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:21.039
She can take you to the light. But I couldn't.

1258
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.360
Zelda definitely not me. But so that like the way

1259
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.119
that like all that happened with like meeting God, it

1260
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:32.000
was just like I he would soften my heart for sure,

1261
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.360
I could hear and it was funny because he did

1262
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.559
it in a way that was really kind of backwards.

1263
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:39.480
And so I think when I hear people like complain

1264
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:43.360
about like Christ consciousness and new Age, I'm kind of like, mmm, yeah,

1265
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.159
but he used that for his glory for me because

1266
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.920
that softened my heart. I used to listen to like

1267
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:52.159
Rahm Doas tapes. Did you ever get into Ramdas?

1268
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:54.800
No, but what you're talking about, yeah.

1269
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.000
Like you know, Christ consciousness, like oh God, you know,

1270
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:00.559
Jesus was a guru and it's all crap. But still

1271
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:05.639
I was like actually able to hear the name of Jesus.

1272
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.719
I couldn't hear the name of Jesus. If you said

1273
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:13.239
Jesus to me, I would get so mad. I mean,

1274
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:17.119
it was really really bad, Like I would not want

1275
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.680
to listen to you. I would be like, okay, f off,

1276
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:24.479
I don't care, like whatever, I don't care about that,

1277
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:28.439
he doesn't whatever. You know, it was really bad, but

1278
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:31.600
the weird o new age stuff like really helped me

1279
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:35.359
be able to like have a softened heart and actually

1280
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.600
hear the name of Jesus. So he used that for

1281
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.600
his glory. And so I finally just got to a

1282
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.600
point where I was just in this mess of you know,

1283
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:49.119
spirituality and just you know, I was being spiritually oppressed

1284
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.720
by something, and I finally just got into the state where,

1285
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:55.800
like it was it's so funny when I tell the story,

1286
01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:58.119
because it was like a dark and stormy night, legit,

1287
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.199
and I was in my mudroom and I was probably drunk,

1288
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:05.439
and I just was done. Like I was just so

1289
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.319
so done, Like my husband was going to leave. It

1290
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.760
was such a bad time in our marriage and in

1291
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.880
my life. You know, I was miserable. I had this

1292
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.239
beautiful child and this like great life potentially, but I

1293
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.239
was just like no purpose, totally miserable. And I finally

1294
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:21.800
just got all my hands and knees and I was like,

1295
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:25.079
you know what, I don't know. I don't know if

1296
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.760
you're there, I don't know what you are, but I

1297
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:30.600
need you. I can't do this alone anymore, Like I

1298
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:36.439
need angels or something like Jesus come help, Like I

1299
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:39.319
cannot do this on my own anymore. I'm done. And

1300
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:41.439
he had to do that. He had to like literally

1301
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:44.039
like push me down to the ground and be like

1302
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:47.039
you're done, okay, because I would get to that point

1303
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.479
where it's just like I think that he was. I

1304
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:51.479
think it was close where he probably would have just

1305
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:53.880
like not that he'll ever let go of you, but

1306
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.359
you know when you get really close to things, Oh yeah,

1307
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:02.399
where okay, I'm just gonna leave you to it.

1308
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.479
Yeah, like get out free. This is what free will means.

1309
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:08.920
This is what free will means exactly, Like here it is.

1310
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:10.880
How how's that working out for you?

1311
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:14.479
Yeah? It's always those questions, like people are like, well,

1312
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.880
if there's you know, god, how could he allow this?

1313
01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:18.760
Yeah?

1314
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.520
And the answer to that is ninety percent of the time,

1315
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:22.319
it's free will.

1316
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:24.720
I fr you will yeah, because you made.

1317
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.079
The choice, yeah, or somebody made that choice.

1318
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:29.840
It had to be the choice. It had to be

1319
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.199
my choice. He's not. I mean the people say it

1320
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:34.439
all the time and I'm always like, oh, that sounds cuty.

1321
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:36.199
But he's a gentleman. He's not going to just be

1322
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:38.600
like do this. It wouldn't be love if he did that.

1323
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.439
It wouldn't be it would it be real? No, Because

1324
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.199
if he ordered you to do it. Then what's the

1325
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:49.000
point It's like he can't. Yeah, it's it's again, it's

1326
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:50.079
free will. Period.

1327
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:53.039
Well so then yeah, after that, it was just like,

1328
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.000
you know, my sister was like, oh, I want you

1329
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.079
just come to my church because then I was trying

1330
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:00.000
to still find Jesus on my own and she was

1331
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.159
just like, just come to my church, like this is ridiculous.

1332
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:05.880
And then it just kind of started from there and

1333
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:10.680
only God would like take that girl. And then like

1334
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:15.000
literally two years later, I'm on church staff, Like right.

1335
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.680
Yeah, you know, using your skills for something.

1336
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:21.800
No, I had none of these skills. It's no I know,

1337
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:23.359
but yeah, yeah.

1338
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:24.880
It all feeds into it, it does.

1339
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:26.439
I mean I can say like I didn't have any

1340
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.960
skills I had. You know, I always wanted to be

1341
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:30.880
I always wanted to be a photographer. I always wanted

1342
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:32.880
to be a writer. I always wanted to be a storyteller,

1343
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:37.840
you name it. Like so, and I loved like going

1344
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.920
to metal shows and being a part of shows. So

1345
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:42.960
now it's like I'm in production ministry and I produced

1346
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:46.039
like my church's podcast. So that kind of started all

1347
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:50.079
this where I was like I reached out randomly on Instagram,

1348
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:53.359
like years ago to Bo Kennedy and was like, oh,

1349
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.000
I just messaged something. It wasn't even like I want

1350
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:57.800
to be on your show. It was like a comment,

1351
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:00.920
and he invited me to come on and my testimony,

1352
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.359
and then it was like it just kind of started

1353
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:07.359
to unwind that way. And when I told my story

1354
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:11.039
on I don't know if you know cryptid warfare, like Drew. Yeah,

1355
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.239
So when I was on Friend of Mine, Oh, he's great,

1356
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.239
I love him. But when I was on his show,

1357
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.279
he was and I told that story because for a while,

1358
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.159
I didn't want to tell that story and I didn't

1359
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.319
want to like offend the people that like. But none

1360
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:28.199
of my friends listen to any of this stuff anyway,

1361
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:29.680
so I'm like, you're not going to even know what

1362
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:33.600
I'm talking about. And they were, and the one friend

1363
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.000
that was involved, she has she doesn't she never wants

1364
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:39.159
to talk about it, like she does not want to

1365
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:41.520
talk about what that was. So when I was telling

1366
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.600
Drew about it, he was like, Christina, that sounds like

1367
01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:46.800
a principality, and I was like, oo, that makes so

1368
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:49.680
much sense. But also I'm disgusted, like or at least

1369
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.640
or something. Yeah, But then when you start getting into

1370
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.439
that stuff. But do you see what I'm saying. It

1371
01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:58.279
doesn't it doesn't matter what it was, It doesn't matter

1372
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.239
if it's power, doesn't matter if it's a principality thing

1373
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:06.159
is hooked on you, right, But all of those things

1374
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:12.319
do not have any power over me because I have God,

1375
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:14.920
and I have Jesus and I have the Holy Spirit,

1376
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:18.279
and that's the stuff that I think. So for me,

1377
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.319
I'm always kind of like I want to remind people

1378
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.359
like we don't need to get wrapped up in all

1379
01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:25.960
of this stuff because then we're glorifying the dark way

1380
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.279
too much. So I always want to have that balance

1381
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:32.439
of like, yeah, like you know, Vicky Joy always says

1382
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.359
like you want to give like a little like you know,

1383
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:37.399
it's titillating, and then it's like okay, but wait a second,

1384
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.239
there's actual, like serious crap behind it.

1385
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:40.840
Yep.

1386
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.520
You know, Like I want to hear the spooky story

1387
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:44.960
and I want to just like sit here and have

1388
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.159
more derbs and do that, like you can do that

1389
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.199
on my podcast. But I also want your heart to

1390
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:55.199
be softened, you know, because it's not it's not just

1391
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:59.319
it's not just a ghost story. Like it's not unfortunately,

1392
01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:02.000
and it's sad. Like those places make me so sad.

1393
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:04.760
If I ever went to Salem, I would probably feel

1394
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.840
really really sad because it's not free there, like that

1395
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:10.560
land is not released.

1396
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:13.319
There's a whole Yeah, I've been there before and I'm

1397
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:20.800
super sensitive dolls, and yeah, it's just not a it's

1398
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:25.560
not a good place. It's not even that it's inherently

1399
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:30.119
bad either. There's just there's just things that there's just

1400
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:34.760
doors opened all over that place, and the veil is

1401
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:38.479
very thin there. Yeah, that's what I can say. It's thin. Well,

1402
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:42.760
and you also have because it's just been worn for years.

1403
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.720
Exactly because you have people that want a profit off of.

1404
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:49.840
It, yes, and want things to happen exactly.

1405
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:53.199
Yeah, so they just Yeah, but it's the suffering that

1406
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:55.279
I think that just gets me where it's like, well

1407
01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:58.159
wait a second, No, I don't want to think that

1408
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.840
my grandmother is like hallowe around the grave yard in that.

1409
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.239
That's sad. She should be in heaven, like you know

1410
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:10.880
what I mean, Yes, that's not good. Whoever that spirit

1411
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:15.239
is probably shouldn't be there. Yeah, right, because it's not

1412
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.760
a person there, we go absolutely not.

1413
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.600
So kind of to wrap things up a little bit.

1414
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:28.680
I want since the name of the podcast is broadcasting seeds,

1415
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:33.800
it's what I do, education and planting seeds in people's minds.

1416
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:39.840
So if you would plant a seed in the audience's

1417
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.960
mind about you know whether I mean because someone that

1418
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:49.000
runs I would call your your a faith inflected podcast.

1419
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:53.479
It is r That's what I would say. And in

1420
01:15:53.600 --> 01:16:00.239
this strange, cryptid realm you know that we live in, Like,

1421
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:05.159
what advice would you give to people living in this world?

1422
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:08.479
Plant that seed?

1423
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:13.880
I think for me, it's always like I think we

1424
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:15.920
have to take a step back and we have to

1425
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:18.560
look at things in terms of like just kind of

1426
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.079
like having an eye of mercy, like looking at things

1427
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:25.800
in a merciful way, especially when it comes to like

1428
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.479
haunted places. Since we're in that season, it's the end

1429
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.399
of spooky season. I don't know if this will air

1430
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.319
before or after Halloween, but I mean, whatever.

1431
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:35.000
It's all left to look.

1432
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.399
Yeah, it's all it's all the same because we're all

1433
01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:39.600
looking We're all looking for the same stuff, right, We're

1434
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:42.680
all looking for answers and all of that. But I

1435
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:44.920
think that it's important to look at things with just

1436
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.760
because the Lord is so merciful, and God is so

1437
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:52.079
merciful and he has mercy on us constantly, Like if

1438
01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:53.840
we can just look at things and be like, you

1439
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:58.720
know what, maybe I need to look at that thin

1440
01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:01.640
space with more mer Like what does that look like

1441
01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.560
for me? In my heart? How can I look at

1442
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:05.479
it and not in terms of a place that I

1443
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:07.800
can make money off of, or I can profit off of,

1444
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:10.279
or I can get likes and shares and I can

1445
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.760
be glorified, and this place can still be idolized. How

1446
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.720
can I get this place to a place where it's

1447
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.720
like restorative for the Lord and for other people, like,

1448
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.800
because that's how the Lord Like, I want him to

1449
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:25.039
break my heart for the things that break his heart.

1450
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:29.239
And that's hard to ask because nobody wants to have

1451
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:32.439
a broken heart for you know, a sad ghost town

1452
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.800
Like come on, like, what's his face on Ghost Hunters?

1453
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:38.840
Who I'm really, Oh my gosh, every episode I give

1454
01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:40.199
him a hard time. I'm going to get a letter

1455
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:41.319
one day. What's his face?

1456
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:43.439
Which one was the guy with that?

1457
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:46.000
He always looks like my ex boyfriend from the nineties,

1458
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:51.039
like a club kid. What's his name? And I always

1459
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:54.159
say Beggins? But whatever, like he's not in there for like,

1460
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.800
you know, be the opposite of that, like, don't profit

1461
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.399
off of these things. Like really ask God to look

1462
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.920
at like give you an eye for what he wants

1463
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:05.800
you to see in terms of mercy, because and especially

1464
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:07.680
if you have something like that, if you if you

1465
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:09.479
are a medium or you're a witch or something. I mean,

1466
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.840
I know a couple that I've had you know, encounters

1467
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.239
with on my show, and it's like, if you have

1468
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.640
that gifting, give it back to him because he gave

1469
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:20.640
it to you, and it's going to be so much

1470
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.960
better for you and everybody else and especially for his

1471
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:26.439
kingdom if you actually use your gifting that you're supposed

1472
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.920
to be operating in. And I think that starts with mercy.

1473
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.000
I really do. No, I agree, and I have a

1474
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.119
big gift of mercy. I'm always like, well, that poor

1475
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:37.319
that poor ghost, like what.

1476
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:44.119
I understandiculous. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you

1477
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:48.199
one wants to be okay because my audience is heard

1478
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:49.159
at nauseum, so.

1479
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:52.760
Well yeah, but I haven't heard it.

1480
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:54.560
What is it? Well, and I'm telling you, oh.

1481
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:58.399
Okay, great. But it's funny because my son's always like Mommy,

1482
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.359
don't you feel bad for the devil? And I'm like,

1483
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.600
I don't. I don't know how to answer that, honey.

1484
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.039
Yeah, it's kind of like I want to be and

1485
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:11.359
yes you should, you should, because yeah you should, you.

1486
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:17.479
Should feel but he also hates us, he does, so

1487
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.319
I'm sorry my poor ten year old is praying for Satan. God.

1488
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.000
This is a kid that, like, you know, I never

1489
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.319
I didn't. The only reason we got him baptized like

1490
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.720
when he was a baby was because of my my

1491
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:33.520
mother and my mother in law got to Yeah, we

1492
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:35.880
were like, just make them happy. And in the picture

1493
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:39.279
he's like got this huge red like Catholic cross on

1494
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:40.800
him and he's just the happiest baby.

1495
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.159
He's just like Jesus that's crazy with.

1496
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.880
His witch mother was just like yeah and now and

1497
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:49.159
now here we are good.

1498
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:53.279
Going, Yeah here we are what all circle? Only God

1499
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:58.119
tell tell everyone where they can find you again, Okay, yeah.

1500
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:02.000
Let me trying to remember definitely Instagram like that's just go.

1501
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:05.600
I will do my best to like if you DM

1502
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:07.079
me if you want to like talk or you have

1503
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:10.720
a story or whatever you know, or just weird encounter

1504
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:15.479
or you're in this space, like I can help you

1505
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.880
with you know, understanding a little bit more of you know, Hey,

1506
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:21.199
I want to come out of this weird witchcraft stuff

1507
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:24.119
or I want to come out of whatever. But it

1508
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:26.119
doesn't make sense and they're not talking about it in

1509
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:27.600
my church, and I don't have anyone to talk to

1510
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.039
because I've had people that have like called I have

1511
01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:33.439
a phone number two if you go, just go on

1512
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.000
Instagram the phone numbers there. I don't have it in

1513
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.800
front of me. I don't have a memorized I want

1514
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:42.319
to admin of my own podcast. But you could also

1515
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:47.039
go to sasquatchinsourdo dot com or you can email at

1516
01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:49.680
sasquatchinsowurdo at gmail dot com. And I also have a

1517
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.840
po box because just why not?

1518
01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:54.920
Because why not? Why not? Just you never know, somebody

1519
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:56.039
wants to send you a gift.

1520
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:59.239
I know, not cursed, thank you, I annoint it no cursed,

1521
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:06.039
yes exactly, annoyt to that box. So there, awesome, This

1522
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.520
is great, Ben, I was so much here coming on. Yeah,

1523
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:11.000
you're definitely invited over to hang out on.

1524
01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:13.880
Yeah, well we will definitely do it again for sure.

1525
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.039
Yeah. Oh yeah, I'll definitely come back and like talk

1526
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:19.600
about any like stuff like we have a topic. Yeah,

1527
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:21.920
like if you ever like I want to talk to

1528
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:22.760
you about the Witch of End.

1529
01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:26.039
Yeah, no, definitely. I like having most people that I

1530
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:27.600
can call up and be like, hey you want to

1531
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:28.039
do a show.

1532
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:32.399
Yeah, so for sure, amazing, sweet, thank you.

1533
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:33.760
All right and well we'll.

1534
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:35.439
Talk so cool, all right.

1535
01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:44.600
There's a good steam valley whisper and money.

1536
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:49.479
The winds. That sounds the same.

1537
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:58.640
Cam spacker s.

1538
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:04.640
On it ur don't ever change.

1539
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:11.920
Wire lighting the calling me to stay.

1540
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:19.079
Mercy found me somewhere long way.

1541
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:27.319
That is a mercy single in min fit in fire,

1542
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:36.199
I can't understand. That goes in the poet trees, teaching

1543
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:42.359
me to see. There's sing a.

1544
01:22:42.359 --> 01:23:04.600
Lot keys in the mystery, feeding scars a second Sensus

1545
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.520
post Fallum Prierson ghostly.

1546
01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:09.439
Dances in the fog.

1547
01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:10.439
I found my.

1548
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:13.640
Knees, sasquat shadows rushed.

1549
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:14.399
Through the trees.

1550
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:28.279
Every souls a battle feed, every Scott true. This is

1551
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:39.840
a messy shingles in my feeding the fire, I can't understand.

1552
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:40.640
It.

1553
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:48.560
Calls in the pine trees, teaching me to see this

1554
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:50.560
cre sell.

1555
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:54.640
Pea in the mist.

1556
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:11.039
My thoughts heavy again.

1557
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:16.680
I'llowed a match and call it a brim through silence,

1558
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:18.239
fill shame.

1559
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:21.359
Little Still, this was my name.

1560
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:28.079
That is a mercy burning through my hand.

1561
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:31.800
Sleep in the lid.

1562
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:37.560
I don't need to understand, lecous.

1563
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:44.800
I'm still calling Mesty.

1564
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:50.600
Still the pain and grease and a mystery.

1565
01:24:55.239 --> 01:25:03.640
H However, I m