May 30, 2025

Rebelliously Curious with Chrissy Newton | UFO Disclosure, Media Manipulation & the Search for Truth

Rebelliously Curious with Chrissy Newton | UFO Disclosure, Media Manipulation & the Search for Truth
Rebelliously Curious with Chrissy Newton | UFO Disclosure, Media Manipulation & the Search for Truth
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Rebelliously Curious with Chrissy Newton | UFO Disclosure, Media Manipulation & the Search for Truth
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🔍 Broadcasting Seeds | A Conversation with Chrissy Newton: Media, Disclosure, and the Unseen Forces Shaping Reality In this thought-provoking episode of Broadcasting Seeds, host Bennett Tanton sits down with Chrissy Newton—media strategist, futurist, and host of Rebelliously Curious—for a deep dive into the hidden layers of disclosure, UFO/UAP phenomena, and the psychological operations of mainstream narratives. Chrissy brings her razor-sharp insight from the frontlines of media, science communication, and the search for truth.

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All right, we are live. Well I've recorded, So Christy Newton,

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who are you and what do you do?

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I am a writer and podcaster and TV host, But

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for first and foremost, I started as a podcaster. I

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moved into a writer. I write for The Debrief, which

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is a science and technology news outlet that's really read

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around the world, but mainly in North America and in Europe.

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I host a show on Discovery Channel called Alien Encounters

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Factor Fiction, and I've been podcasting for about four years

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with my podcast for Belliesly Curious with Christy Newton that

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focuses on futurism, science and UFOs.

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Thank you.

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It's true though, I am like superally like everyone, superly

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is not even a word. I am very excited when

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it comes to about science and technology. So you know,

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I'm an average person, I would say average jing just

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looking for answers and just curious and want to learn

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more and always want to grow and learn. So that's

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what that podcast is really about, interviewing experts, and I mean,

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you know, really selfishly sometimes just asking questions I want

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to know that my listeners or viewers want to know,

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and and just in finding out and discovering with everybody.

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Absolutely it's and I've listened to a few episodes as

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oh and listened and I thought it was great, So

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thank you. I think what's awesome about it is that

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it gives you a perspective, well for Americans, because we're

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ridiculous a lot of times, but anyway, when it comes

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down to that, we aren't real good at looking outward

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at the rest of the world. And I feel like

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just even as a gateway, the the even just the

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Instagram kind of opens people's eyes to like facts like

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and I reposted it today, I think, but it was

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that do you even realize China has a space station

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and the national security implications with that and just every

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and we just don't know.

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Well, we kick them out of our space station, right,

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I would say us as a Canadian but North American base,

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you do contribute a lot with our space program and

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robotics to t NASA and to many different other space programs.

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But yeah, we kicked them out because of national security

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issues we thought we had. So they went and built

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their own Apple looking store space station. And it's beautiful,

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like it really is. It's gorgeous inside like it it

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looks so high tech. It looks like you've walked into

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an Apple store. So they're out there competing along with

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India and in Russia and all the larger countries in

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our foreign adversaries are competing in a space race right now.

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That isn't always spoken about.

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Maybe within our communities, but I think in the larger

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scheme of things, I think we forget that it is

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a space race because it's been so commercialized.

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Absolutely for sure. Yeah, there's a few space stations out there.

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I just think people understand.

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That, and there's so many different space programs. Kenya has

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a space program. You know, a lot of people didn't

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know that.

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But to be honest, I don't blame people for not knowing.

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Like this is.

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My job is to find out those things in to

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write about it, and I'm looking at stuff every day,

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so that's why. But if I wasn't, i'd probably be

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along with everybody else finding out those little infan nuggets.

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That's why sometimes I put it on Twitter because I

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even find it so interesting. Like for example, the day

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before they go China, the Chinese government, but before they

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even announce, well they'll say there is a space mission,

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but they won't announce the astronauts until a day before

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they go, which I think is like really interesting, really interesting,

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and that's tradition. And I haven't dug in why that's tradition,

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and maybe I should for another piece, but I think

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it's just it's so interesting. I love watching what China does.

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It's fascinating to me.

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Yeah, I do it quite often. I have another podcast

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that's a national security podcast, so I get absorb a

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bunch of that. So, but what that being said, what

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so I always ask every every guest I've ever had,

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is what is your gateway to this world? Like you know,

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whether it's crypton encounters, uphone encounters, you know, anything.

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It's my gateway gateway to it?

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Or yeah, like meaning like you're like, how you really

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got into the the high you know this genre? That's

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what I'll call it.

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No fair enough. I think I'm just always been curious.

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But when I was a little girl, my dad showed

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me a picture of a UFO that he took with

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a group of people when he had a group sighting.

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And I remember looking at that.

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Photo and being so curious and it like lit up

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everything inside of me and wanting to know what it

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was and trying to understand it and like and like,

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how could this be?

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And what does that mean?

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And like and even at just such a young age,

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so curious, and my dad said, Chrissy, like, you won't

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understand until you get older, and I remember thinking, like,

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but I want to know now, like I don't understand

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what this means.

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And the photo was very artistic the way that it looked.

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And I need to get it's a it was a negative,

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and so I have to be able to I have

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we have that negative and my dad's safe and I'm

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going to blow it up at one day when he

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gives it to me, and yeah, and I'll make it

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into an art piece.

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And we've been chatting about that.

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I have some other things that he's given.

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Me that he's collected over the years related to U

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stuff and or artifacts or things like that, and so

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i've yeah, or just like government paperwork that we weren't

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sure if it was, if it was real or not,

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like all of those things. So my dad really was

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my gateway to it and his curiosity and fascination and

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just you know, my parents are just really normal Canadians

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that are very curious, left to travel, love history, love science.

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My mom was interested in neurology, you know, and she

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was a social worker. It kind of makes sense at times,

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and she wanted to learn how her brain operated and

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why it did. And I remember her telling me things

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when I was a kid, and then us traveling together

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as a family. So really just super curious family that

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loves to learn and really.

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Likes to talk.

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And debate and are very opinionated in many ways. So good,

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I'm bad, right, you know, And that's who we are,

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and we do love to tell stories, like my mom

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and all of us are really great storytellers, and my

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dad is specifically, So that's where it.

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All came from.

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And never thought I would be here now, But you know,

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I really do think things happen for a reason, and

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my passion as a child for many different things are

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happening now in my forties more than they would have

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happened in my twenties because I think I'm maybe ready

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for these conversations and have a little bit more insight

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on life than I obviously did in my twenties.

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Right, So, have you had any encounters yourself.

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I've had experience.

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Yeah, I've had experiences with high strangeness with my dad

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in our house and with somebody else as well too,

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but you know, and something I still can't explain. But

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it wasn't UAP related. I'd probably say it was more

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ghost phenomena, and I'd have been asking people in that

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community a little bit like what is this, so you know,

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and then I think I've had something else with my

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ex boyfriend. But I believe that was probably more atmospheric

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than anything else. And it was super cool but seeing

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it in the sky, so yeah, it technically was a UFO,

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but how do we define UFO. I don't know if

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it was off planet or what it was, right, and

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that is the challenge. But it was unidentified, but I

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think it was atmospheric. The way that it was it

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was flying in it had like I didn't even have

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a smoke trail, but it had like a burning or

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but the.

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Back of it.

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But oh sorry, I did have a smoke trum my fault.

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But it was very very tiny, wasn't long, and it

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was moving ever so slowly, but it had like a

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little look like a little fireball at the end of it.

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And so for me when I kept looking at it

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and I was pointing it to now an X, but

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I was pointing to my boyfriend at the time, and I.

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Was like, what is that?

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And we were staring at it and go figure, you

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don't have your phone to be able to record it.

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Of course, right, it's a backyard UFO. And you're more like,

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you know, in that whole moment when you see something

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you're so puzzled and your brain is trying to figure

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out what it is, and then you end up in

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those moments trying to put what is reality together, you

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end up missing those moments to film it, for sure.

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Agreed, Now what besides that, how did how did your

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like professional career, where did it start? And like how

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did you how did you get where you're at? Yeah?

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For sure, so really it started. I've worked in public

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relations before journalism, in podcasting, in hosting. For about gosh

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seventeen years. I ran a PR agency that worked in entertainment, lifestyle, business, philanthropy.

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The only thing I haven't done is government relations. Funny enough,

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maybe one day still, who knows, Cray, You never know.

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I do find it interesting, and so there's been many

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different areas And when twenty seventeen hit with Louella Zondo,

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people were, you know, talking about it, and people within

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the UFO space in Canada and Toronto, where like Chrissy,

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you can help, like you can do something, you know,

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because you're a pr person. And I was just like

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before that, Previously I was asked and I said, I can,

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I will get blacklisted from media. I said, I can't.

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I have people that work for me. Have I got

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to survive that to pay my own mortgage, and so

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I couldn't. But when twenty seventeen hit, I was like,

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you know what, it's shifted. It's in the mainstream narrative.

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I can contribute meaningfully now without feeling a form of

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ridicule that it would not be able to work and

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keep my livelihood. So I started doing that. I started

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contributing and then learning more, meeting people, and then what

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ended up happening is the debrief opened up, and I

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remember going, who the heck are these guys. I've never

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heard of this outloud before, and so I asked friends

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that knew of them and knew them to McMillan, jb Andias,

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Christopher Plane and Micah Hanks, and we're like, yeah, we'll

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connect you. And started talking to them and started podcasting

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with them and working on the YouTube side of stuff.

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And then you know, they asked me later on would've

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become a partner, and I said, yeah, for sure, but

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trying to contribute in many ways from I've been very

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fortunate to work with Shakavala on two of his books,

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doing pr still currently and also just being able to

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write and do things I really love and expressing that

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side of me that I've always probably have wanted up

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probably but always wanted to do. And so really podcasting

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is what brought me into it, but public relations was

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my initial for SLEEP and they're all interconnected in so

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many ways.

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Of course, absolutely what are your what are so? Because

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there is a I mean there's a border obviously Canada

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and the US, but we don't I don't think we

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down here again looking outward, don't talk much about the

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fact that programs that we have a lot of times

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you guys up there have like a you know, a

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cousin sister brother program, right, so like uh, like Project

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Magnet things like that.

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Yeah.

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Project Magnet was based more on magnetism and looking at

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UFOs from a magnetism science.

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Perspective and more of a science perspective.

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And then we had Project second story that was more

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from a national defense, but we do. We do mirror

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a lot of those programs. It's probably smart that I

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shouldn't say probably, it is smart that we do that

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because we are sister and countries compared to what people

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Change again in four years, let's see. But you know,

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we are and we do share a lot of information

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with each other. We have defended each other and have

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collaborated with each other within our science and defense communities

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for years. Fun fact, I never knew this and I

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would have to double check it. But my best friend

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of mine, Marie Nicola, said to me, I was driving

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where our parliament is, and she's like, did you know

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that the Canadian Armed Forces and our Canadian soldiers train

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American soldiers because we are some of the best in

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combat in the world. And I went what I was like,

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I didn't. I follow a lot of American national national

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security and defense and sometimes I forget to follow our

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own Canadian at times. And she was looking it up

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and she said yeah, because you know, we're both females

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that really like this topic. And we were chatting about

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in the car driving back and I said, that's wild,

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and then we were talking about how Canada is really

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prepared for any terrain, any type of combat, and I

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think it's fascinating. But with that side, yeah, we have

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lots of programs and the program we have now is

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Canada Sky Canada Project and that's coming out of the

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Chief Science Advisor in Chief Science Office within Ottawa, and

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I actually met with them recently this past weekend. I

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met with them to learn a little bit more about

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the whole team and what they're looking at. But Canada

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really looks at UFOs and even just science and all

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of our topics from a very slow but also very

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progressive perspective. We're not always fast that go to make

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a decision. We set back and analyze. Sometimes that's great

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and sometimes it's not. And so I think within the

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UFO topic, we have always looked at this from an

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academic science perspective, and we've always taken it seriously to

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a degree, and we've kept our UFO rerec it's open

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for the public to be able to see and analyze.

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So there's many reasons for that.

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But I would say that we do take science in

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national security, all of it sometimes a little bit slower,

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but that can be positive as well, and that's why

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we work together so well, because we share information, for sure.

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I agreed. Yeah, so how did the TV show come about?

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How did that happen? And well, we'll just I'll go

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with the I got another question after that, but I'll

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answered that.

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my work. I was on in about like, oh gosh,

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like ten other show pilots for the longest period of time,

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which I'm very grateful to even be considered. And a

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lot of those things don't happen all the time. You

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could be in part of that stuff for your whole

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career and nothing ever happens. So when I was asked

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to audition for this, I said, for sure. But you know,

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I really try to come at things from a science

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perspective because that's my job in journalism, and I don't

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want to lead people on and if I report something

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not accurate, then I will rereport like that's we're human.

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I can't know everything and so right, and I don't

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really want to the whole point about being human is

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learning and being alive and making mistakes. But if it

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is a severe mistake for sure. We don't want to

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mislead people. So my job is very different, I think

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than obviously Mitch Horwitz on the show. And to be honest,

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I'm not the biggest fan. I can't control how they

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edit things and stuff like that, and you know, maybe

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a little bit more clinical than I am, but you know,

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it's TV, right, and that's the part that there's an

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element of it that is you know, obviously who I

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am and very much who I am, and then there's

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another part that very much is just television related. So

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when people you know, see me on my social media,

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I laugh when they watch the show because she's very clinical,

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but when they see me on my social media, I'll

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be like, she's just a big care bear and a

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goop ball. Not no, I'm yeah, I'm trying to be

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more accurate and I will be skeptical, but I am

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not that clinical. Just I am a big care bear

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that loves this topic and wants to do the right

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thing like I think most people that are trying to

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be in this topic and reporting, and so that's it.

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And I also like to have fun, like I am

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actually generally funny what I've been told, so I'm like,

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you know, I like to show that side of me,

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but you know, TV's TV, right, maybe one day I'll

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get to show the other side.

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Yeah, it's what they make of it for.

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Sure, exactly, And I can't control because I just talent

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on it. I'm not even right, But I am grateful

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for the experience because I learned a lot very fast

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doing that show. When it comes to TV and TV

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land in Hollywood, good damn bads, But yeah, it was.

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It was really wonderful and the crew on the show

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was unbelievable. The crew was really wonderful and just just

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really really lovely and very professional.

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Awesome. Yeah, what is your favorite thing from that like

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all the because you guys did a lot of investigation

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and went over a lot of territory. What was one

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of the standout things for you with like encounters or

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investigations that hate you.

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Yeah, there was a trans medium UFO that I thought

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was really super cool. And the reason why I say

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that is, you know, we have the five observables that

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came from the Pentagon looking at classification of identifying a UFO,

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and trans medium is one of them. So if people

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don't know a trans medium is something that can go

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into the water, it can go into the atmosphere, and

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it can go into space. So what we saw there

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was and doesn't mean that drones have been able to

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do this. We have trans medium drones and now China

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has specifically shown the capabilities of that, and I imagine

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North America does as well too. And I think it

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was about four years ago or three years ago when

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China showed that capability. But with that said, you know,

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this was off Catalina Island, which is a hot spot

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for UFOs, and it was a seaman that was out

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there with his partner. She was actually on the land

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and he was on the boat. And then we had

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the coast guard as well that ended up, you know,

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seeing something. So we had this triangulation of coastguard identification,

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a person, his partner calling him on the boat and

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saying what is above you? Like, what is this Thing's right?

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And then it's wild and then him going yeah, I'm

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filming it and I'm looking at this and he saw

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it come out of the water and into the sky

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and it was it was a triangle UFO and unbelievable.

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It was a size bigger than a size of a car.

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I believe.

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He said, I think that's from my it's been a

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it's been almost.

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A year now.

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Jeez, I went fast crazy. Uh it is crazy, Yeah, geez,

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I thought.

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It almost like we slipped or something.

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I'm just saying, it's so wild how time flies by now.

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So when I interviewed him, there were so many things

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that hit the marks of just triangulation of identification, three

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different people, different groups, coastguard groups along with them looking

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at the data and the back end and finding it.

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There was no There was only low blow explosions that

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were coming from like off the water when they were

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doing some type of testing with the coast Guard. But

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it was nothing in the sky. There was no flares

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in the sky, nothing like that that was identified right

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from the Coastguard. So just low barge explosions and that

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really does speak volumes right, you wouldn't see it above him.

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So it was wild.

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And he is a really great witness because he's on

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the sea, He's been on the water, he lives on

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the water.

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That is his job.

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So amazing testimony. One of the best people to testify

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along with them, having the identification of being on the

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island and seeing.

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It above him.

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So you know, again, it could be American tech, don't

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get me wrong, but it really if it is, gosh,

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we've got great tech. You know, it's unbelievable the stuff

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you've got out there. But with that said, it you know,

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it isn't an UFO and we just don't know where

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it is or where it's coming from in that regard.

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But it was just it was brilliant and I love

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it and it's one of my favorite stories today.

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Yeah. So you on the podcast, the Debrief podcast, what

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exactly do you cover overall? Like, what's the what's the focus?

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Yeah, I talked to academics, so mainly academics within the

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UFO science space, and I do a lot of intersections

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of culture too, so I've been speaking to I've been

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doing a little bit of a series with theologians, funny enough,

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not intentionally, just because I find it very interesting, and

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I've spoken with two different theologians recently, and people that

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work in the sciences as well and astrophysics to be exact.

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But I have a new one coming up this Friday.

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But Ted Peters with someone else that was working with

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Arizona State and the Vatican and creating a guideline and

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for the Pope, and it wasn't I believe it was

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the Pope of or Pope Francis, to be able to

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create a guideline about how you know, theology should would

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potentially look and evolve and progress with science. And so

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I found it something really interesting too, in this little

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nugget that I had no idea that the state in

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Arizona State was working with the Vatican. I was like,

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that's cool, crazy, right, Like out of all of the

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academic Arizona State, I was like, no offense, Arizona State.

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I've seen you. I've been around your campus.

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It's beautiful, but you know, and there's there, actually is

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a lot of great stuff I've seen that comes out

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of Arizona State just from a political sorry, from science

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papers and stuff that have come out. But yeah, and

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so I was like, oh, that's interesting. And created these

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guidelines and he was talking about that and going to

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working with the Pope and working with the Vatican in

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Arizona State and has really been a forefront and a

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leader in this space. So I think there's a lot

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of this misnomers from the atheist community that you know,

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theologians would never look at extraterrestrials and the Vatican and

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Catholic religion want nothing to do with science, Like it's

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just it's so not accurate and it's so ignorant, and

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it's not for me preaching religion because I've looked at

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multiple religions, but theology is very interesting because it is

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very connected into the metaphysical. And so I've been having

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conversations with Reverend David Wilkinson recently that will come out,

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and we talk about the intersections of culture and science

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and how we look at materialism, materialism being like kind

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of nuts and bolt science and a better way to

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saying and how metaphysics science is never really considered to

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be something that we should take it seriously, right, and

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now that's changing and we're seeing that these two worlds

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are really coming together within the science community.

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So it's fun.

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And outside of that, I've gosh, I've talked to people

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from political side, Christopher Mellan, louel A Zondo, Leslie Kane,

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Ralph Blumenthal, multiple people within the UFO space about UFOs

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and what's going on politically with culture related, what's even

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happening within China and their UFO team and task force

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as well that they have so and who knows that

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could also be a propaganda move like we did. But

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there's so many interesting stories now with the intersections of

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culture and science, and I deeply love both so very

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I feel very lucky I get to do it and

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self shall I get to learn?

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Yeah. I think a lot of folks are theo theologians

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especially realize that the deeper they get into the science

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at a lot of folks believe that the more it

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proves their point right, like the supernatural or the or

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the existence of you know, God. I think a lot

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of folks I think that the deeper science goes, the

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more that that's proven. So, I mean, it just makes

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it just makes sense after all said and done, that

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we intersect everything because it's all connected, whether we like

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it or not. I feel like it's connected, just just.

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Like I do.

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Is a lot of folks believe the UFOs and the

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supernatural side of that are you know, all connected, paranormal

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if you really think about it, it's all connected.

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So it is.

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And Reverend David Wilkinson was really interesting to speak with

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because he makes a really great point about materialistic science

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and you know, we have all these theories and in how,

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00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.079
and we look at science where we have evidence in

473
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.839
proof within science that these things work, and even just

474
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.599
how that human body works and biology. But it's interesting

475
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.119
because he is he made a really great point and

476
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.039
says that we have all these things that can prove,

477
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.799
you know, more theories of how the universe started. But

478
00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.880
really then our metaphysical question is like, well, what was

479
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.720
kind of before the Big Bang? What was that you created?

480
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:00.920
It?

481
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:01.119
Like?

482
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:05.119
That is a metaphysical conversation. So science does have to

483
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.519
lean into that more and more and more to be

484
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.200
able to answer those questions. And so I think in

485
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.559
the end of it, or maybe the beginning of it,

486
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.119
of how you want to view it in your research,

487
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.079
it does intersect because of the question of why and how.

488
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.079
It is always consistently there and it's so fascinating. And

489
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.039
I think that the average person sometimes feels that science

490
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:31.200
and stem mathematics and engineering and all of that is

491
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.920
just so not tangible for them if they're not trained

492
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:39.359
in that space, and that's actually not accurate whatsoever. You know,

493
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.000
A lot of people ask me, and it's so funny.

494
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.240
Sky Canada Project asked me the same thing. They're like,

495
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.599
you write about fusion and you write about all these things.

496
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.440
Do you have a science background? And I said, no,

497
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.559
I have a communications background. I just enjoy this topic

498
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:53.559
and for the longest period of time, I didn't think

499
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.079
I was smart enough to do it, and that's actually

500
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:56.880
not true.

501
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:58.359
And I want.

502
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.720
To tell that to other people and say, hey, I'm

503
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.200
an average person. I'm an average woman that enjoys these

504
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:08.279
topics and I'm learning and open to learning and just

505
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.480
coming up in the new ideas, connecting new ideas, but

506
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.039
communicating it for other people.

507
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.559
And I feel that that's.

508
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.799
Whatever because it is approachable and it's not not approachable,

509
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.839
and we have to make science approachable for people to

510
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.119
feel like they're part of it.

511
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.720
Absolutely agreed. I yeah. And just the intersect, especially with

512
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.880
the quantum side of things, the advancements that we've done there,

513
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.440
I think it opens up the whole idea that the

514
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:39.640
metaphysical stuff has validity even more so.

515
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:40.720
It's true.

516
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.400
And it's funny because materialist scientists will say, and they've

517
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.680
I've said the same thing, Well we look at quantum

518
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.839
physics and there's like, there's nothing to do with that,

519
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:54.400
and I'm like, I don't know, like you can't just

520
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.680
say that. Yeah, and I've had debates.

521
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.880
It's funny. I was the most random thing.

522
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.160
I was talking to guy on a dating app, like

523
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.240
probably like seven years ago before I started doing this,

524
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.480
or six years ago or something like that, and he

525
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.039
was debating me on it and he was just like

526
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.119
he was a total atheist, doesn't And I'm like, I

527
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:17.680
don't know, and he's like, well, and we were sending

528
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.920
stuff back and forth to each other, and I remember thinking, well,

529
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.799
first of all, this isn't going to work out because

530
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.920
you're not open minded enough for me to ask more

531
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.559
questions and be curious. And you just pretty much were

532
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:36.559
like you're wrong, nobody. Yeah, just a bad taste, it was.

533
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.000
But that really opened up my mind. And he was smart.

534
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.960
He you know, he was a very smart man. I

535
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.079
forget what area of business he was in, but he

536
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:48.000
was very smart, but not open minded and was literally like,

537
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.440
this isn't possible. It doesn't exist, and here will tell

538
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.920
you why, and here's a whole bunch of materialist sciences

539
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.039
that will tell you that. You know, and scientists will

540
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:01.200
debate me now, but hey, we thought germs weren't real,

541
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:04.960
and a lot of people died like just the truth.

542
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.519
A lot of people still think terms exactly.

543
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.079
So, you know, we don't know what we don't know yet,

544
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.200
and that's the best part of.

545
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.720
Being alive, is that we get to figure it out

546
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.440
right well and hopefully gets a report on it consistently

547
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.720
supposed to be to make it fun flat too, so right, No,

548
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.839
it's true, it's true, but we do have to make

549
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.119
it fun. You know, we only hear for so long.

550
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.039
Let's try and make it fun as much as possible.

551
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.599
I mean, there's some valid points that they made, but

552
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.200
I just can't. I can't, I don't. I can't go there. Yeah,

553
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.000
I'm declaring myself as a.

554
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:47.400
Round her not going there.

555
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:53.400
Yeah, no exactly. So with that being said, what what

556
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:59.359
are your what is your investigative brain told you? What?

557
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.680
What do you think is going on here? And it

558
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.720
you know, I'm not naive or dumb enough to think

559
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.359
it's one thing and it could be just a whole

560
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.720
ton of things. But what do you think is going

561
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:17.440
on with UFOs now? And of course there's all kinds

562
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.279
of UFO U A P e U A that there's

563
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.720
so many different acronyms. Now, but what do you what

564
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.559
do you you know, have fun with that.

565
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.680
Yeah, oh I will.

566
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:36.200
I My evolution process of what I've thought has been

567
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.440
happening since I was a girl, and to and obviously

568
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.440
to an adult woman that's reporting on this really started.

569
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.480
Pop culture was a big aspect that probably that did

570
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.720
I shouldn't say probably that did influence my opinions. And

571
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.799
as I started to become deeper and deeper and really

572
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.119
told myself in my twenties, I'm going to know who

573
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.079
these people are. I'm going to go to conferences and

574
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.880
I'm going to lean in and I'm going to learn.

575
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.799
And over the course of the time it has immensely changed.

576
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.400
Working at the debrief, reading more science papers, being around

577
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.039
these people, talking to people in politics, seeing people's perspectives.

578
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.119
So I don't know what's going on. First of all,

579
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.440
in my opinion really doesn't matter, but if you want

580
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:22.079
to hear it, I feel that my perspective, if it

581
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.160
is aliens, I feel that might not be as accurate.

582
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.960
Doesn't mean doesn't mean those people that think that are Rome.

583
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.440
And it also I do believe it's multiple things. I

584
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.240
lean more into the interdimensional aspect of things because I

585
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.079
feel that there is something going on within this space

586
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.359
within world, in our space and time that we really

587
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.240
don't know about within our own dimensions, and we will

588
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.400
learn more, you know, learning. And I write so much

589
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:54.000
about neurology within the debrief because I find it so fascinating.

590
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.200
I follow a lot of stuff with the neurolink and

591
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.200
what's going on with competitor companies and brain interface chips,

592
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.079
and feel that at some point in time we have

593
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.000
not evolved yet to really understand it or to see it.

594
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.240
And it's like any animal or any evolution. I think

595
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.359
that we will get there at one point. It could

596
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.559
be part of technology that we evolve is transhumanism, which

597
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.839
I know a lot of people don't like. But then

598
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.200
there's also this part of of like normal general evolution

599
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.240
of self. Right where those intersect is going to be

600
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.839
a time that I think you and I will be

601
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.720
watching and seeing where humanity decides to go with these conversations.

602
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.240
And this is why I love these intersections of culture

603
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.200
and science, because the choices that we make today will

604
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.039
reflect what our future does look like, right, And the

605
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.920
choices that we make today with advanced technology will be

606
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.319
decisions on how we perceive our own reality and so

607
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.720
and the more that we learn about consciousness, right, and so,

608
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.759
and the more we learn about our brain and the

609
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.920
way that we learn about how people think and the

610
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.240
differences between the differences of how we think is really

611
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.839
very important, and it's very nuanced, but it is important.

612
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.960
And I do feel that, and I was saying in

613
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.119
this earlier in an interview that I feel at one point,

614
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.200
when we get to really understanding the brain and consciousness,

615
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.119
when we see how people think differently or how they

616
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.359
perceive the world from a biological perspective and a neurological perspective,

617
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.359
then that might be a way.

618
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:24.599
That we understand each other better.

619
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.039
And that's what I truly think because because our brains

620
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.000
process information differently, and so understanding how somebody bring someone's

621
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.839
brain works and how they process information from a sensory perspective,

622
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.759
from just any perspective, a trauma perspective, you know, we

623
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.119
have a better understanding of how to relate to each

624
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.079
other and how to speak to each other. And I

625
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.319
really think that neurology is it's obviously attached to consciousness

626
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.519
and understanding that, but I do think neurology is our

627
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.519
gateway to be able to lean in and understand each

628
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.079
other more. And that's why I write about it so much,

629
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.440
because I think it's fascinating. I want to know how

630
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.440
peoples park work because it makes me understand how they

631
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.319
interact in the world, so that I can empathize or

632
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.159
talk to them or be able to say, well, that's

633
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.880
why you experienced it like that. It doesn't mean you're wrong.

634
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.119
It just means that you see this and feel it

635
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:14.960
differently than I do.

636
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:21.599
Yeah, for sure, because you know two people, same situation,

637
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.840
same exact sightings that give you two different stories almost

638
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:26.440
every time.

639
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.840
Well, and I've been in those perceptions. I've been in

640
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.159
those situations where people have seen We've have different perceptions

641
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.519
on how we view reality or experiences or even how

642
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.519
we treat each other and how someone might speak to

643
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.280
somebody and they feel that they're not being spoken to

644
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.480
the right way because of their own experiences.

645
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.039
So I just I.

646
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:49.840
When I look at that, and I go back even

647
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.480
to obviously psychology, but we go back to how the

648
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.559
brain process is information. It's just it's fascinating. Maybe in

649
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.360
another life we'll go to school for all.

650
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:03.320
Right, Right, Sometimes I believe a lot of these things

651
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:09.119
are also I've I've got a background in behavioral science,

652
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:17.039
so I see a lot of it's hyperbolic saying, but

653
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:22.480
like mass psychosis interesting, you know, And I feel like

654
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.360
a lot of these things, especially with social media the

655
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.000
way it is now, was never that way when I

656
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.360
was a kid. But you get this sort of like

657
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.960
collective thing, right, which also can be mass psychosis, and

658
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.800
depending on the thing so or the topic. So I'm

659
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.920
just it's a great point that you bring up that

660
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:50.199
and how we connect outside of that too and whatnot

661
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.360
on a even on a like do we have a

662
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.880
collective right energy? Of course I think we do obviously,

663
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.840
but what are your thoughts on that, on how we

664
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.239
really affect how we.

665
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.719
You were, well, I think we were collectively thinking the

666
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:09.719
same thing I was.

667
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:10.920
That's what I was just thinking.

668
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.119
I laughed because again my best friend jokes around because

669
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.320
I was like, listen to the telepathy tapes and well,

670
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.000
we spent a lot of time together because she's like

671
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.159
one of my closest friends and we like the same things.

672
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.000
And we were laughing because at the same moment, we're

673
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:32.039
at the Science and Technology a Museum in Ottawa and

674
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.480
at the moment I looked down and churn on my wife.

675
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.000
I connect to the Wi Fi and I said, oh,

676
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.480
there's free WiFi heres connected. She's like, I'm literally doing

677
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.599
it at the same time we are, and I laughed.

678
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.079
She's like, she's like, I think we met on the hill.

679
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.199
And we have this joke if you're listening to the

680
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.000
telepathy tapes, she'll always say, let's meet on the hill, chrsy,

681
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:51.840
because we are trapped in each other's minds. Many times

682
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.559
we'll show up wearing the same clothes, Like we've shown

683
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.719
up wearing the same bathing suit and like not even

684
00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:00.000
knowing they had, like we have each other's bathing suit

685
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.960
or similar to something. So we've done so many things

686
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:07.599
that have interconnected us because our energies are so similar

687
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.239
and the things that we like and the way that

688
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.360
we radiate, and so I do truly believe there is

689
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.320
a collective out there, and it just depends on how

690
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.559
close that person is to you, how much time you've

691
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.599
spent to them, maybe the experiences. There could be many

692
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.760
other reasons, but I do believe that It's funny because

693
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:30.280
somebody right now messaged to me and said, wants to

694
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:31.960
book a guest that I had on my show, and

695
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.880
I said, yeah, I don't mind into doing an introduction,

696
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.960
and I said, but sometimes they're challenging. They're a little

697
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.360
tricky to get on the show. And I just said

698
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.079
to them, I was like, but don't kill my story lead.

699
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.280
And they're like what, And I was like, I know

700
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.239
how this game works collectively.

701
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:48.320
If we're all.

702
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.239
Thinking the same thing, someone's going to steal my story

703
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.800
lead because I'm working on something else. And I was like,

704
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.159
Ice seems a little defensive, but I was like, I

705
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.280
know this community and if I'm collectively working on this

706
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.719
and thinking about it. So it literally pushed me into

707
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.079
High Gary yesterday to start making some other phone calls

708
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.320
because I was like, all right, if this is starting

709
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.119
to happen and I've already interviewed this person, it's going

710
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.800
to pick up like wildfire, and I better get my butt.

711
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.960
Move in because I do think it's it's a thing.

712
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:17.119
It really is.

713
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.360
I would agree you find h well in the podcast world.

714
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.679
I mean that all of a sudden, it's just like

715
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.679
you know, you get the flashes of things like I'm

716
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.920
just trying to think of stuff that hit, like the

717
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.679
Prophecy of the Popes like last week. Stuff like that

718
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.079
just hits because and everybody gets a little bit of

719
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.760
group thing. Now that one's not a good example. That's

720
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.840
a horrible example. I don't know why I'm giving that

721
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:50.159
because boat just died. But you know, those types of

722
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.719
things as trends because a lot of us talk behind

723
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.119
the scenes. It's just like you're saying, I've been researching this,

724
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.880
and then it'll click in somebody else's head and the

725
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.280
next thing you know, it's you.

726
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.800
Know, down, and then I miss yeah, and then you

727
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.239
miss all the leads or things that you've been thinking about.

728
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:07.760
And I was like, I got to I better go

729
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.920
do that. Like what they say about greatness, you know,

730
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.760
there's lots of people that are way better at their

731
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.400
job than the people that are in the forefront of it.

732
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.480
It's but unfortunately those people have not excelled because they

733
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.480
just they keep they don't try, and there's a big

734
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.440
part of that. So the people that are trying and

735
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.280
learning and go out there and just do it on

736
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.840
the whim, you know, sometimes they're getting that lead because

737
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.320
they're just doing it and there's a big part to that,

738
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.559
and they're picking up on it. So they go and

739
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.079
do it, and you know, no fault to them. I

740
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:38.559
just don't want them to take my story lead.

741
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.360
Get off my story, get.

742
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.679
Off my Storyly, they must have been like a text message.

743
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.159
I was on a full and I was like, you're

744
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:45.719
not taking my.

745
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.360
Story leader about you?

746
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.039
Oh, I wrote, don't you're not taking it? You know

747
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.360
you're not taking my story leader? Are you? And the

748
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.639
rest of thee like Chrissy is so defensive right now?

749
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.199
And then I had to call them because I was like, hey, sorry,

750
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.320
I'm on a phone call right now and I've got

751
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.199
twenty people messaging me, well, two other people messaging me,

752
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.719
and I'm trying to record this call for another article

753
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:06.440
I'm working on. And I was like, but I told

754
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.159
them about where I was doing with the story and

755
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.599
I was like, don't take my story lead.

756
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:13.719
Like it's okay.

757
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.679
They're like, what's the rules that I go by? And

758
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:18.440
I was like, there's no rules. I'm like, I'm not controlling.

759
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.559
I'm just just please don't take my story because I've

760
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:21.199
been working on it.

761
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:22.000
Push.

762
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.159
It pushed me into high gear to start, so I

763
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.079
need some phone calls. Last procrastination now, No, it pushed

764
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.920
me into high gear to be like make those phone

765
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.559
calls and just get it out there and start start

766
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.519
doing what you're supposed to be doing for this article

767
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:35.639
piece for sure.

768
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.400
Yep, I know all about it. Yeah, my wife was

769
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:48.239
just in Ottawa actually nice. Uh wait Quebec.

770
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.800
Ye, well that's yeah, it's very close.

771
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:55.360
They went to some resort.

772
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.440
Oh did you go to the Nordic it's so nice?

773
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.320
Yeah she she spoiled.

774
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:09.239
Yeah, like one of the nicest paws that I've been

775
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:10.199
to in Canada.

776
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.119
Yeah, stories that they it was just great, just the

777
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.960
treatments and just the atmosphere. So they loved it. The

778
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.119
food was really good too.

779
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:23.559
So I I haven't ate there. I've only I've gone

780
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:24.519
in all the waters.

781
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:32.599
Yeah yeah, right, yeah places it's cool. Also, it's one

782
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.360
of my favorite times. Well it's coming up here soon.

783
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:41.199
But there's the Tulip Festival there. If you've never been,

784
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.079
you gotta go the cities Tulips.

785
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:46.559
What what city?

786
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:47.440
Go back?

787
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:54.199
Oh, it's you mean, that's the province, but like in Montrealreal.

788
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.320
Not Montreal, but's the Oh.

789
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.880
So it's in Ottawa.

790
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.960
I didn't know, that's what I mean.

791
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:03.719
Yeah, so's in Ottawa. The Tulip vessel. The whole city

792
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:08.119
has got like I don't know, like they're all from Holland,

793
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.800
gifted from Holland and planted all.

794
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:12.760
Over the city, so that's beautiful.

795
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.519
I didn't know that. I have good friends of mine

796
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.599
that live in Ottawa, so I'm there a lot. I

797
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.920
went from the meeting, but it was selfishly also to

798
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.639
go hang out with them too, so we're just like

799
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:23.199
a group.

800
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.199
We did a whole bunch of things.

801
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.000
We went to the Space and Aerospace and Space Museum,

802
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:33.159
which I one hundred percent recommend going to. It's unbelievable.

803
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.480
The planes that I've seen from World War Two, like

804
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.559
the Lancaster bomber was in that is huge. I lost

805
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.000
my mind and like I'm going to post it on

806
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.960
my Instagram today. But I had so much fun, Like

807
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.920
I couldn't believe the amount of history and also just

808
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:55.760
the eeriness and the advancements in technology that we had.

809
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.039
Like when we walked in.

810
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.280
I was like I felt like a little kid where

811
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:00.519
I was like, oh my god, I don't know where

812
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.639
to start because like this is unbelievable, from planes from

813
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:07.800
like nineteen oh nine that we had first in Canada,

814
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.119
all the way down to like you know, stuff that

815
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.199
we're doing on the space station, like it's just it's huge.

816
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:18.400
So I recommend anyone to go because they'll have a blast.

817
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.320
It doesn't matter what age you are, you'll love it.

818
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:21.920
In Ottawa in.

819
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.800
Oawa, Yeah, Space and Aerospace. Yeah, Aerospace in one of.

820
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.920
The Smithsonian's one of my favorite, especially when I was younger.

821
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.679
It's one of my favorite places. So I think that's

822
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.360
the equivalent probably.

823
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.440
I would imagine.

824
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.719
But yeah, the h that we rode around in these

825
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.559
in the can on the canals and just looked at

826
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:48.400
tulips all day, it's amazing. Wow, check it out if

827
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.480
you've never been there for it, it's pretty awesome.

828
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:51.519
I will.

829
00:43:53.920 --> 00:44:02.800
So all right with this podcast I love let me

830
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:08.000
let me back up, so we've got what are your

831
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.679
chances of you said more of an interdimensional type of thing?

832
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.920
Is what you you lean that way? Would that be

833
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:24.159
fair to say? Now? What that being said? What with

834
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.039
all the research that you get, well you do interviews

835
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.559
and all the things. What are the experts and let's

836
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.760
i more the mainstream side, like what what are they

837
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:37.800
really thinking is going on? Like what are like the

838
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:43.880
top two or three theories that you that you come across.

839
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.360
Yeah, I would say that extraterrestrial is still really up

840
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.679
there when it comes to theories that people feel are

841
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.119
going on. So extraterrestrial is one coming some from coming

842
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.679
from space or some planet. The science though right now

843
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.679
says that that's not possible, right, and that's why a

844
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.559
lot of other scientists don't agree. The other theory I

845
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.119
think is number two is interdimensional, and that would be

846
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.760
from Jaques VALA's perspective as well. Jacques la is an

847
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:16.159
amazing scientist and has worked for the government, worked did

848
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.920
a classification or sorry, did it both the largest database

849
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.119
for the American government called Capella where that talked about

850
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:28.760
UFOs and UFOs with being collective UFO data. And he's

851
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:33.199
also an astronomer. So I would say Jacques Fala still

852
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.119
obviously relates to the interdimensional, but I believe from when

853
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.239
I've spoken to him that he thinks that we're not

854
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.519
really we don't know what it really is yet, and

855
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.119
so that theory is evolving. But I would say that's

856
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.920
a second, and then I would say I believe it's ultraterrestrial,

857
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.840
that it's here, and that it's been on this planet

858
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.440
for a very long time, and maybe we don't have

859
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.920
the ability to see it or interact with it for

860
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.000
some degree for some reason, and that might be because

861
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.360
of evolution. But those are really still and those are

862
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.000
consistent theories that have been going on since the sixties,

863
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.639
the fifties and the sixties, at least the sixties and

864
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:06.960
the seventies.

865
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:08.440
And they haven't changed that much.

866
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.480
So you know, our science is picking up and we're

867
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.119
learning more, but it's still within a very similar framework.

868
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.519
Right. So with like Sky Canada, do they have a

869
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:22.760
reporting system now?

870
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.920
Well, first of all, it was a reference. What they

871
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:31.880
did was give a sorry suggestions on how to really

872
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:36.559
create this classification. So some of the recommendations were starting

873
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.639
an app and then having the Canadian Space Agency look

874
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.760
over it and be able to look and sort through

875
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.159
this data. The reason why they're doing it is obviously

876
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.559
a national security threat perspective so that we learn more,

877
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.639
but then keeping it open for the public and working

878
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.159
with the Canadian Space Agency would keep it open rather

879
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.000
than putting it under the Department of Defense within Canada.

880
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.159
So that's one of it looking at understanding how to

881
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.800
classify UAP, So that's really one of the major recommendations

882
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.360
they're putting forward to understand if it's atmospheric as well,

883
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.400
and then being able to keep the data open for

884
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.840
people to learn more. But it's not a study about

885
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.920
finding out if they're aliens. It's more about understanding how

886
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.960
to classify and how to collect data and who the

887
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.760
data should be, who should be collecting the data. And

888
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.039
they'll come out with another additional recommendations and tactical report,

889
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.360
I believe in the beginning of the summertime. So I'm

890
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.079
waiting for them to send me that so I can

891
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:35.079
write about it.

892
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:43.119
How many sightings are Canadian? Like, how many Canadian sightings

893
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:44.239
are reported every year?

894
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.800
Well, it's like one in three people or one in

895
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:51.480
four people. About two years ago, I believe CBC did

896
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.480
a piece on this that saw UFO or claim they

897
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.199
saw UFO. Again, doesn't mean that it's interdimensional or right,

898
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.760
but yeah, just seeing something anomalous in the sky. So

899
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.440
it's like one to three or one to four people

900
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.559
something to that degree. I remember seeing the stat So

901
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.400
that's a lot of people. But it makes sense. Yeah,

902
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.199
a lot of the UFOs that are identified come in Toronto,

903
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.679
which makes sense because it's a high population. Same with

904
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.840
Vancouver and along with the North too. The Arctic has

905
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.960
a very high. The Northwest Territories has a really high percentage,

906
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.599
which is you know, and there's not a lot of

907
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.519
people that live there, right, a very small amount of

908
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.480
people in small population, so those are the highest areas

909
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:40.039
of concentration. But we have a lot of really old

910
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.440
UFO stories that are really really great from Falcon Lake

911
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:48.840
and Shag Harbor that are like our Canadian Roswell experiences

912
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.800
and they're unbelievable. Like Shag Harbor, a UFO crashed and

913
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.440
I'm going to butcher the date I can't remember off

914
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.639
the top of my head right now, but a UFO

915
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.360
crashed in the water or in Nova Scotia, and we

916
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:02.719
don't know if it was coming out of the water

917
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.400
or crashed into water specifically, but we believe that or

918
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.280
going into the water because we weren't sure if it

919
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.840
was trans medium or not. But there was a green

920
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.880
foam that was on it and people ended up seeing it.

921
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:20.559
Their cmp was there. There was documentation that Americans were there,

922
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.400
Canadians were there, people saw it locally, so you know,

923
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.199
outside of Roswell, this is has more documentation than Roswell even.

924
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.880
Does public information, at least Republicans.

925
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.800
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and then we also have a tuney

926
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.199
that has the Shy Carbery cash on it, which now

927
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.360
is like so expensive to buy. I've looked at it

928
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.800
and I think it's like at least four thousand dollars.

929
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.199
I know, I know, what was that one that you said?

930
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:48.280
The other Falcon Lake?

931
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:49.199
What is that?

932
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.920
So? Falcon Lake was in Manitoba, schic a Lac I'm

933
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.079
forgetting his name now, jeez. He was looking he was

934
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.199
collecting rocks, I believe, and the shorter form than again

935
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.320
might buth this a little bit, but he was looking around.

936
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.039
He was hearing some.

937
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.559
People's sweet speak Swedish he thought, or some type of

938
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.159
like dialect. And so when he walked around the corner

939
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.280
he heard it and he thought it was just military

940
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.559
who knows. And he ends up seeing this craft and

941
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.280
like legitly, it was like whoop, like the door closed

942
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.320
and everybody kind of went in, what the heck? And

943
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.559
so he went up closer to the craft and it

944
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.559
ended up like accelerating and ended up burning him. And

945
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:37.480
we have the app profiles from the Lorenzans ended up

946
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.559
keeping that documentation, and we have new Fork the National

947
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.639
UFO Record Center, and Albuquerque has and people on my

948
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.960
Instagram can go and see some videos on that. We

949
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:53.039
have the glove. We also have the soil sample, and

950
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.400
we also have a piece of his shirt, his shard

951
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.440
shirt from that experience. So again, it could have been

952
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.440
government testing of some type of craft that he ended

953
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.400
up seeing people or hearing people speak English or some

954
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:09.360
type of dialect. So that's totally possible that that was

955
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:11.280
happening at the time and then they ended he ended

956
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.400
up catching them. But yeah, it's a it's a wild

957
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.079
story and we have lots of them. We have We

958
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.480
have sightings in you know, in Ottawa where somebody was

959
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.920
swimming on a pool and literally like a glass top

960
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.280
and saw UFO fly over and we were like in

961
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.880
a pool on their back, like can you imagine swimming

962
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:35.840
around see like and then a reporter came and documented it,

963
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.159
and so we do have lots. We have so many

964
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:42.800
UFO stories as well, like the States.

965
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:48.639
Yeah, it's just again you hear sometimes it's there's yet

966
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.559
we seem we think the airwaves are open, but a

967
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:55.719
lot of times they're just not. You know, so hearing

968
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.760
things that are you know, just like different music, different things.

969
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:05.360
We don't always hear all the stories either you know.

970
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.400
It makes sense, it's it's so such a big world,

971
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.119
even though we are tiny. It's a lot of information

972
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:11.440
out there, a lot.

973
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.519
Of big it's a huge world, and people I think

974
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:21.719
live so small sometimes so saying it. But uh so

975
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:26.119
you've been doing this a while, right, So with that

976
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.559
being said, what do you think? What? What are some

977
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.760
seeds And this is why it's called broadcasting seeds, Seeds

978
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:37.119
that you can plant in people's minds that you think

979
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.679
are important over the next few years coming forward with

980
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:46.880
what's happening, and and the seriously, the rush of information

981
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.159
that we're getting it is frankly to some and you know,

982
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.880
sometimes to myself, overwhelming.

983
00:52:54.000 --> 00:53:00.760
So yeah, I would say, don't believe everything you read. Yes,

984
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.280
people make mistakes, and sometimes they don't correct those mistakes.

985
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.239
Some people like to mislead and deceased just.

986
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.320
Let it cost right, Yeah.

987
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.440
And then just like to put it in the ethos

988
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:14.519
because they want to be a part of a nugritive

989
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:20.320
history and there's lots of that. People being you know,

990
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:26.519
embodied into history and known as as someone who's done

991
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:30.480
something great is actually stronger than you would imagine, not

992
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:31.719
for all, but for some.

993
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.039
So I would say that if you find people that.

994
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.159
You really like and you feel that they're doing their

995
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.119
best when it comes to reporting or telling those stories

996
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:46.880
and really thinking skeptically and not as a skeptic, but

997
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:52.039
are not criticizing, but are are looking at this and saying, well,

998
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.159
let's find some proof, or looking at it from a

999
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.079
very logical perspective, then keep those people close to you

1000
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:58.840
and that you follow and like, this can be in

1001
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.760
any topic, not just you, because propaganda is a real

1002
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.119
thing and we have a lot of it today, and

1003
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.480
I think we forget sometimes that propaganda can be made

1004
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:13.320
within our own communities because of misinformation or propelling propaganda

1005
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.159
because they feel that it's true. So we have to

1006
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.679
just be really mindful because it's hard. It's hard to

1007
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.920
believe what's real anymore. And if you find those people

1008
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.159
that you feel right, and if you feel that those

1009
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.280
people are doing their best work and they don't have

1010
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.480
agenda behind them, then I would stay close to those

1011
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:33.960
people and the work that they're doing because I think

1012
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.119
that those people will probably lead you in down better

1013
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:39.239
paths than rather people that are you know, leading with

1014
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:40.079
their ego.

1015
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.199
Agreed considering their own sitting.

1016
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.880
Well, I think there's so many of us that are

1017
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.000
trying to do our best, like all of us are,

1018
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.239
but there's just some people that are out there that

1019
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:58.159
are not. There's so many great con artists, it's unbelievable.

1020
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:04.199
Gosh, yeah, there's so much many, so many. Yeah. So

1021
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:13.159
parting parting words other than share self promotion, which is next.

1022
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:22.719
Any parting words, Sorry, I guess parting words would be

1023
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:28.079
just yeah, stay curious, be open minded, and keep if

1024
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.079
you're If you're scared to go out to do something,

1025
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.440
go do it. In science and technology and UFOs and all.

1026
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:35.559
This is for everybody.

1027
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.400
We're on this planet to learn, have fun, experience things,

1028
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.519
and who cares what people think, because in the end

1029
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:43.760
of it, you will.

1030
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.239
Go in alone. We go out alone.

1031
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.039
Do what you love, be who you are. If you

1032
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.360
feel that you're weird, go and live your best weird

1033
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.880
life because we only have so much time on this planet,

1034
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.199
and surround yourself with people that love you and really

1035
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:57.199
actually care about you.

1036
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:04.840
Agreed wholeheartedly. Tell us where we can find you for sure.

1037
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.639
On Instagram it can be being Christy Newton. That's a

1038
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.440
reference to being John Malkovich. If anyone knows that it's.

1039
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:13.840
A very underrated movie.

1040
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.039
By the way it is. It's one of my favorites.

1041
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:17.519
Just love it.

1042
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.119
I love Michelle Gondre and Charlie Kaufman as writers and

1043
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:24.639
directors together, So being Christy Newton and then on X

1044
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.320
it's Christy Newton. Or you can go to my website

1045
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.440
Christyewton dot com and you can see my podcast there,

1046
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.639
my writing at the Debrief, which is the Debrief dot Org,

1047
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.760
and then they can go on Discovery Plus or HBO

1048
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.719
Max to watch Englian Encounterspactor fiction.

1049
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:43.519
What's your platform or choice to watch?

1050
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.960
Pretty well, I think it just depends.

1051
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.719
You know. I have the where you work the most,

1052
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:50.360
you know what I mean?

1053
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.800
I say Instagram for shure, I work the most. If

1054
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.800
you really want to see me and my workiness, in

1055
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.639
my daily life or just things that I'm interested in,

1056
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.039
I think is cool and just just random humor at times,

1057
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.440
occasional Muppets will show up because I do love the

1058
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.079
Muppets stuff like that, and like want to follow news

1059
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.119
stories that I'm writing. The Debrief is great, sorry that

1060
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:13.360
my Instagram is really great for that. But if you

1061
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.199
want to follow more UFO and science based stuff, then

1062
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:18.039
you can go to my max account because I tweet

1063
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:18.559
more there.

1064
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.360
You know, I'd like to know these things sometimes because

1065
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:27.199
mine's Instagram too. Some people are like, no, it's TikTok

1066
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.360
or Facebook. I don't know how Facebook is anybody still, but.

1067
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.000
I know I wonder that too.

1068
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:36.199
Yeah, I do see sometimes that because my Facebook is

1069
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.440
because a meta is connected to my Instagram or my

1070
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.920
Instagram is connected to Facebook. So I do see all

1071
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.920
the Facebook people that are still looking at my stories

1072
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.400
on Facebook, and I'm like, what do you what are

1073
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:46.760
you doing?

1074
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.079
It's still good, but what are you doing on this platform?

1075
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.239
Groups are good, the groups. I still feel like it's

1076
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.519
good for groups, but individual stuff, you know.

1077
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:01.360
Yeah, I enjoy Instagram and I'll so don't like TikTok

1078
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.480
as much because I find it too much like a casino,

1079
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.360
like that I thing, you know, like it's nice, it's

1080
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.440
so yeah, and it also is visual but audio two.

1081
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:16.800
But I do enjoy Twitter for community like the UFO topic.

1082
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:18.679
I learn a lot of what's kind of just going

1083
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.679
on in the community through that because I follow so

1084
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:21.320
many people.

1085
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.440
And then in science and then good have a nice debate.

1086
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.639
I put a poll up recently because we just went

1087
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.679
through our election of do you vote, like, when you vote,

1088
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.599
do you vote for yourself or do you vote for

1089
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.360
your community? And a good friend of mine, Adam, who

1090
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.639
was in Ottawa, made a comment when we sat down

1091
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:39.559
at his house with a friend of mine and said,

1092
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.960
you know, most people vote for themselves. And I was like, Oh,

1093
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.199
that's so interesting. I guess I've never looked at that way.

1094
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:46.599
So I was like, let's see.

1095
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:47.440
What other people think.

1096
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.960
And it was interesting because it literally came back I

1097
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:55.880
think for yourself was like forty eight percent, and then

1098
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:58.880
the highest was like fifty something, fifty two or whatever

1099
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.280
that would be for voting for your community. But it

1100
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.880
was so close, I know, right, yeah, so close, but interesting.

1101
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.199
And then it was like you could technically vote for both.

1102
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.719
You can vote for yourself within your community, but mainly

1103
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.559
when you're prioritizing, do you prioritize your own needs or

1104
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.960
do priorities the needs of others around you?

1105
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.119
Is really what I was getting at.

1106
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:24.280
So it's interesting to see how people perceive that split

1107
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.199
that way, right, It did, Yeah, which makes kind of

1108
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.519
sense in the world that we live in that I

1109
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:31.199
feel that it would be fifty to fifty to some

1110
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.519
degree in that debate. Yeah, but I was happy to

1111
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:38.599
see that people were voting for others too, that they

1112
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:39.760
do keep others in mind.

1113
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.079
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean I think we have

1114
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:48.039
to well, you got to at least try, so, Yeah, exactly.

1115
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.880
So thank you so much for coming on, and you know,

1116
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.760
I'll put all your stuff in the show notes. And

1117
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:58.760
I really appreciate you coming on and talking.

1118
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.360
Thanks for having me, for sure.

1119
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:05.639
Yeah, I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared,

1120
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.599
hold me hostage, and they don't fight fair. Who's gonna

1121
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.559
pray for me? Your white brought my tests?

1122
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.519
Who's gonna save me?

1123
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:12.800
If you're not right here?

1124
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.920
Move this darkness and make my sight clear, Take me

1125
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.960
your way, because I don't like your gost to my past.

1126
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.320
They feel in the night and wake me up. I'm

1127
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:31.760
trapped in my Nightmas, you trapped in my.

1128
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:46.239
Nightmas, trowning, trowning my mouth, the deepen apparition, some of

1129
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.159
all my demis, all my thoughts.

1130
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:50.480
I'll come nit and treason all alone.

1131
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:51.880
Who's gonna hear me screaming?

1132
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:53.360
Matter fast?

1133
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:54.880
They shits on my fists?

1134
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.800
Regrets that stretched out for light years, it can almost

1135
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.280
touch the light, hold me it is right there, party free,

1136
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:04.039
attracting my nightma, I don't let me jack.

1137
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:09.599
All life of fad. All my life is faith, All

1138
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.719
my life is face. And then I like, wait, I

1139
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.920
don't let miss j. All my life is fading. All

1140
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:25.119
my life is fading enough, Like.

1141
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:31.159
Man, we need attracting my nights.

1142
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:05.960
Okay, school

1143
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:18.000
A