April 28, 2026

The Nephilim Are Still Here And Nobody's Talking About It| Micah Vann Huss

The Nephilim Are Still Here And Nobody's Talking About It| Micah Vann Huss
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Join us as Micah Van Huss, a former Marine and politician, shares his journey into the world of biblical angels, giants, and spiritual warfare. Discover how ancient myths, scripture, and modern research intertwine to reveal hidden truths about the spiritual realm and its influence on our world.

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How did the giants come back after the flood? Genesis

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six says there were giants in the earth in those

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days and also after that. So if the giants were

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the result of angels and human women having giant offspring

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before the flood, then it stands to reason that the

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giants came back og Goliath. All the giants that David

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and Moses fought against Joshua, it stands the reason that

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they're the same result of the same unholy union.

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Broadcast Seeds, Broadcast the Seeds plan Trooth in the Minds.

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Of the bet.

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Welcome to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds. I'm your host, Benettantan.

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Today we have our guest Micah van huss Okay, Micah,

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former marine, former politician.

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That's not very nice, is it, so hey?

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Former No, anyway, legislator, let's put it that way, and

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glorious Christian. Micah tell us in your own words, who

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you are, what you do, and what's the best place

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that people can find you?

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All right, Well, thank you, Bennett. So. Micah van huss

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I worked for Southwest Radio Ministries. Southwest Radio Ministries is

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a ninety three year old radio ministry used to be

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Radio Now it's radio and broadcasts anything and everything. But

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I head up the Marginal Mysteries department for Southwest Radio Ministries.

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I talk about the weird stuff of God's creation like Bennett,

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and you know, love doing that. So we get into

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all the stuff, but we do it from a biblical foundation,

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I guess the other details. Served eight years in the

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Marine Corps. After that, served eight year in the Tennessee

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House of Representatives representing Washington County. And then now here

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I am writing books for Southwest Radio Ministries and love

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and ever minted of it.

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Yeah awesome.

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Oh and Marginal Ministries dot com, margin Original Ministries dot com.

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Okay, gotcha. So with that, the question I ask everybody

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to start this kick this thing off is so, what

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what was your gateway to this whole world of you

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can call it whatever, supernatural, uh, you know, high strangeness.

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I've always enjoyed the weird stuff. But what kicked this

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off was over twenty years ago. Now, shoot, man, might

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have been twenty six years ago now, yeah, definitely, maybe

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twenty eight years ago. Now. My brother showed me Genesis

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Chapter six. And I grew up in Baptist churches. You know,

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I was taught that God chose Noba to survive the

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flood because Noah was righteous. But I come home from

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a deployment to Iraq and go back, and so my

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brother he showed me Genesis six where it says God

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chose Noah because he was perfect in his generations. That's

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the wording of the King James. All the translations you read,

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we'll mentioned Noah being perfect in his generations as bloodline.

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It's like, what in the world is that about. Well,

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you read five verses earlier in Genesis sixty four, the

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sons of God Benja Elahim and the Hebrew came to

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the daughters of men and had children with them, and

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they were giant offspring. They were mighty men of old

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men and for now, and there were giants in the

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earth in those days. And so it's like five verses

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later says Noah's bloodline had not been tainted. It's like, Wow,

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this is a worldview, the giant worldview that I had

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never even heard of before. And so after my brother

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showed me that, I started reading books, I started watching videos.

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The first book I read was The Nepheline and The

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Pyramid of the Apocalypse. On that next Iraq deployment, all

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my Marine guys that were with me got to hear

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me talk about this weird stuff, and so yeah, we've

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been doing it ever since, and I love it.

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And you're kind of in that space there in in

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a rock especially like where kind of all began to

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an extent.

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Hey, my brother told me Babylon the oldest part of

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the world, right, And you know, as I was talking

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about demons talking about all kind of stuff with my

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brother is like, you know, Michael, you're getting ready to

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go over there where all this stuff happened. And let

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me preface real quick. I had a dream when I

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was in Fallujah, me and my team, we were sleeping

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in the middle of the city of Fallujah. There was

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a house that the Marines had taken and it was

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like a little fob, tiny little fob because it was

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just one little house, and we stayed a few nights

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in it doing different missions. But I was sleeping on

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the floor, dirt floor, inside of a stone house, and

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I had the most realistic dream of a demonic figure. Now,

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if you play Final Fantasy like I do Final Fantasy one,

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in the Hall of Giants, there's this little grasshopper type

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street creature with limbs that go everywhere, like a little

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bit like a skin walker wearing a cloak, and I

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dreamed of that creature from Final Fantasy one. It was

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very realistic in that that that house in the middle

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of the city of Fallujah and the I can see

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the shapes around me sleeping. Well, I woke myself up.

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It was a bad dream, and every single marine was

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still in the exact same position they were in my dream,

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but the creature was gone. So I'm not necessarily a

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dream person. But yes, when you talk about going to Babylon,

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the oldest part of the world, I did have that

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very realistic dream right there in Babylon.

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Yeah, like a peak behind the veil kind of maybe.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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It was weird, wild, absolutely wild. So at the base

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of all this, you've had a pretty unique path. You

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were a sniper in the Marine Corps, yes, sir, okay,

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multiple deployments, then politics, now media and writing. Right, So

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what's the thread that ties all of that together.

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God prepares you for what He has for you. I

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have you know, I'm not saying this in a proud

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but I'm saying I have tried to honor God throughout

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my entire life, and he has directed my steps. And

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I don't have the time. We don't have time to

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go into the stories of all the stories. There's some

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really great stories. Let me give the best one. So

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I was I went to Iraq as a marine. I

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went to Iraq as a contractor. I went to Iraq

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as a marine, and then I went to Afghanistan as

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a contractor. So I got married in twenty eleven, and

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I had worked out with my contracting company. I was

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going to work in Afghanistan six months out of the

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year and come home six months out of the year

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as a newly web And that's how I was going

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to work my contract for the next few years. Well,

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two days after I signed my contract to go back

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right after my wedding, the company lost the contract. And

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so I found myself right back at home. And I

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knew that God had a plan. I wasn't worried about it.

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But my mom, my mom, when she prays, things happened

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all kinds of stuff, but this one's particularly she's prayed

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to God. When I went to Fredericksburg to get ready

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go to Afghanistan, he said, Mike is not supposed to

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go to Afghanistan this time, so don't let him go. Well,

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she didn't tell me that until like three years ago,

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so it's like twelve years after the fact, right. But

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so I knocked on her door when I come home

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from my rack or anywhere I like. I don't like

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to tell my mom or my wife now that I'm

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coming home. I just come home and knock. That's why

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I like to do it, she said. When she heard

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that knock on the door that night, she knew it

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was me, because she knew I wasn't supposed to go. Well,

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two months later I ran for state representative and Tennessee

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started knocking on doors, knocked on thousands of doors that summer,

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and well we won. We beat a six year incumbent,

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and the Lord enabled me to serve in Nashville through

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my constituents, and you know, God directed my steps everywhere.

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Let me give you one more, because this one's important.

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This one be shorter. To run a political campaign. I

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was running against an in coment. I've never been in politics.

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To run a political campaign, it's decently cheap to print

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mailers mail pieces, but to pay the postage for ten

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twelve thousand mail pieces per piece, like six mail pieces.

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I mean, you're paying tens of thousands of dollars. So

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I paid for the mail pieces, set them on my

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living room floor. I had, you know, twenty thousands some

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mail pieces on my floor, but I couldn't pay to

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strip themount and so I prayed. I got next to

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my bed and I said, God, if you want me

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to win this race without these mail pieces, will win.

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But if you want these mail pieces to go out,

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I need you to provide. And because I was running

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against an incumbent, nobody was really supporting me other than people,

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not the lobbyists or anybody with money. That's so two

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days after I prayed that, I got my first large

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check from a lobbyist group and we were able to

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send out a ton of those mailers. So that's just

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the little evidence of how God directed. It was so obvious.

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Yeah, so is that? What basically one of the other

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questions I like to ask is like, where your worldview

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was really solidified? You know? With that?

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Well, what do you mean by worldview? My biblical?

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Yeah?

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I mean it could be whatever you you know, I

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guess let's start with both. You know, your your Yeah,

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let's see your.

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Biblical I've always strived to honor God. I remember as

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a young boy listening to a sermon about King David,

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and yes he senned, but he was different. And one

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of the things King David did is he purposed, much

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like Daniel. He purposed in his heart to do what

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was right by the Lord. And so that always struck

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me as a kid. And so I again, I'm not

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saying that I'm great. I'm just saying I have tried

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to do what's right by the Lord all my life.

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I have not always been successful, but that's what I've

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striven for, and the Lord has given me opportunities to

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do these awesome things, things that I've enjoyed. And so

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I would say my worldview is trusting in God and

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knowing that no matter how difficult the task, he will

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direct your steps if you are honoring him.

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Yeah, Truth, authority, and reality.

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Yeah, yeah for sure.

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Yeah. Now, spending time in combat zones more than one,

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in more in more multiple ways, Like do you do

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you think most people understand what conflict really is?

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No? No, And of course you know you don't fault

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somebody for that. My brother always was proud of my

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military service. He did not join, but he was always,

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you know, very proud of me. And so my brother

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never got to join. So so I have a very

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good relationship with him and we so I see from

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his perspective, he doesn't he knows what a brotherhood is.

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But unless you have had bullets going over your head

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next to the dude, you know, it's like, do you

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really feel what it is? And so yeah, it's ah,

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I forgot the initial question, but yeah, it's yeah, definitely

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in a good experience.

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For sure. So I think I know the answer to this,

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but you get it. It's do you believe we're living

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through a spiritual war? And just as much you know,

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is it just as much a physical one as it

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is a spiritual one?

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Absolutely, it's more spiritual than it is physical you look

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at all. And so I guess the main thing we're

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talking about today is my book Angels Eternal. Yeah, so

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War of the Princes, we're talking about the principalities and

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powers of the air. We're once physical in my opinion,

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we'll get into that after the Tower of Bible. So

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we are talking about a spiritual war and warfare, oh,

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the unseen realm. We are one of God's creations. Now

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the Bible doesn't say anything about aliens or other creations

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other planets, but it doesn't have to. The Bible is

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God's message to us here on Earth. And I'm okay

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with that Mars have water on its surface at some

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point in the past. As a Christian, I'm okay with that.

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That's not a big deal to me. I don't see

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why God would create this vast universe for us to

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sit here and look up at. I would say that

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He has plenty of other creations out in the cosmos.

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And so the scripture says at least three times that

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we humans will one day rule the angels. We will

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be in authority over the angels. So that tells me

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right there. You know, we have a spiritual realm where

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the hierarchy changes. And once we're over the angels, is

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God going to make another creation where those beings are

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over us one day in eternity. So no, we're not alone.

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spiritual realm. Now it also, of course, depends on what

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you mean by the spiritual realm. Another dimension, a thousand

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other planets with life on them, but on the other

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side of the veil, outside of the earthly timeline. Do

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believe that God and entities in the spiritual realm, not

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on the earth, exists outside of our timeline. Why do

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we have an angel who fights against the Prince of Persia,

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which is an evil spiritual prince, one of these princes

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of the nations, in one of these principalities, and he

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takes twenty one days to answer Daniel's prayer. So that

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tells me that the angels that are here on the

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earth are bound by our time. Now, once they go

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out of our atmosphere, out of our realm, dimension, whatever

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you want to call it, now they're in the eternal realm.

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were two years old if he wants to. God is

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outside of our time and he molds it. So whether

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he allows angels to do that, probably it's his power.

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physical one on the earth.

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I mean, it does get complex, it really does, and

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a lot of people lean on metaphor and whatnot. But

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a I think that there's you know, I think we're

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not meant at this point to understand. I don't think

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that we can wrap our minds around it. You know,

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our rights where faith comes in, right.

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prison of the earth. If I ask you to think

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of a new color, your brain explodes. Your brain can't

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think of a new color. Yeah, but that's because we

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have been born into this prison of the physical world.

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have to have We don't have to know everything for

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God to be magnified and glorified and for us to

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come to a salvation knowledge of him.

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Yeah. So have you ever experienced something that you like,

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couldn't explain, like something that made you rethink reality?

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So no, that dream I told you about about the

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demon Influjiah is about the closest I've ever gotten to

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anything like that. Now, people who are around me and

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we hear stories all the time, the friend of a

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friend of father, et cetera. But obviously I know who

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my father was. He died twenty some years ago. He

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was an a Marine Corps infantry officer, but I didn't

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know until two years ago. My mom told me that

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as a kid, he saw auras around people, he saw

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colors around people. And of course we've heard plenty about

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auras through different people.

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I'd love to talk to you about that because I

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see him too.

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About it, maybe not on this episode, but I just.

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Know that my mom said my dad did as a kid,

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and he did not as an adult, but he did

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as a kid. And so there are things out there.

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your young men will dream dreams and your old men

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will have visions. Now I'm not necessarily one of those people.

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It's like, oh, vision, this, vision that, but God says

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it will happen to some people, so I'm not going

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to dismiss it. When I speak at conferences or talk

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to people through email, I meet all kinds of people

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who tell me all kinds of things, and I don't

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brush them aside because while I've never experienced it, I

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try to get pictures and keep all this in my

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memory because people say some very interesting things. I like

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to pick. I like to pick my angels, my artwork.

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Let's see what we got here. I'm heavily influenced by

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Final Fantasy, World of Warcraft, the Legend of Zelda. The

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things I enjoyed I still enjoy I love playing video games,

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but the things I enjoyed as a kid, Lord of

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the Rings. And so I think I let my artwork.

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But a lady came to me at the conference and

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she said, after, you know, I got like a hundred

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pictures in my slides of just angels and weird things.

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And she's like, how do you know what they look like?

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And I said, well, I mean it's just you know,

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the flavor I imagine I have seen every time I've She

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said to me, every time I've seen an angel, they're

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wearing armor and robes, just like you depict them. And

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you know, you could dismiss that as maybe a crazy person,

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but you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dismiss

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her right off. Maybe she has seen other people have

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seen things that I haven't.

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Yeah, for sure. So talking about your Angels Eternal that

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it really dives in the mysteries. I guess the best

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way to say it is, as many pastors shy away

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from what first sparked your interest in writing about it

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writing that book.

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I'm not going to fault pastors. Pastors have a flock.

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I don't have a flock per se. I do have

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people who watch and listen and follow, But pastor has

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a flock, a physical group of people who gossip among

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each other. I'm not going to fault pastors if they

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don't want to talk about weird stuff. So, and obviously

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I've run into plenty, but that's okay. But I'm going

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to talk about it because I believe it's what God

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has called me to talk about, and I really enjoy it. Obviously,

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He has prepared you, He has prepared me for the

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things He has called us to do, and I can

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give you so many more examples. So why did I

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do Angel's Eternal. When I was writing my last book

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before Angels Eternal, This is Secret Society's I realized how

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prevalent the spiritual powers were in molding the hearts of men,

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molding our secret institutions, molding our institutions today and in

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the past, all throughout history, that there's some powers behind

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the scenes orchestrating events. And so while I was writing

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Secret Societies, I said, man, this has to be my

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next book. And Angels a Turnaline. I thoroughly loved the

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study of the Angels.

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this stuff too. I do episodes about it and just

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research and research. And why do you think, I mean,

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why do you think themes like the watchers and the

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Nephlom and ancient knowledge they just keep resurfacing like they

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just you.

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Know, we're living in the age of the Internet, so

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all this interesting stuff is becoming. It's it's so separate

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what scripture says about giants watchers from some of the

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more broad conspiracy theories. I don't want to insult anybody,

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but some of the more broad conspiracy theories. There is

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truth to the giants. There is truth to the watchers.

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The Bible mentions watchers in Daniel chapter ten three times.

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The Bible talks about watchers and Zachariah one, eight, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

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And so these are things that are true. And because

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the giants the watchers are true. Now that we have

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this age of information, the age of the Internet, the

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evidence is starting to come together more easily. And so

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that is why the giants and everything is becoming so popular.

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Because traditional Christianity, of which I grew up in and

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I have no problem with traditional Christianity, shot away from

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this stuff. It was weird in taboo. But now with

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the Internet, we're seeing the evidence come together.

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Weird in taboo, Yeah, like stories like the Candahar Giant.

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Wonder you take on things like that.

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Oh yeah, the Giant of Kandahar. We talked mostly about him.

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So my second book, The Earth As It Was, this

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is my biblically based speculation about the Earth before the

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Flood of Noah. We're talking about creation, dinosaurs, giants, watchers,

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the technology that mankind possessed before the flood, all kinds

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of stuff. So the Giant of Kandahar fascinating story real quick.

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Supposedly a Special Forces Army unit, those soldiers. You and

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I served in the Marine Corps. You were a soldier too,

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But anyway, those soldiers, so they were in the mountains

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of Afghanistan and they came across the cave and a

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thirteen foot tall, redheaded giant came charging out with a

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spear and speared Dan one of the soldier's name was

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Dan that got killed on that mission. And then the

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helicopter they killed it. They shot it all over, they

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killed it. The helicopter came, picked it up in a net,

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carried it off. So that's a Giant of Kandahar. You

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have on Coast to Coast AM radio, you had a

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pilot talk about picking up a giant. And this was

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a separate instance, not that one, the Giant of Kandahar.

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You have two soldiers who have independently talked about the

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Giant of Kandahar. You have the Giant of Kundar, which

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a soldier saw through his thermals one night across the valley.

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He saw a man in the mountain and he didn't

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know he was a giant until he stood up and

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he's like, oh, oh, my goodness, that's a huge being. Well,

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the people who lived in that valley, in the Afghanistan village,

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they would dye the hair of their goats orange. And

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he figured out after he came back to the United

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States from that deployment that they were sacrificing, they were

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giving those goats to the giant. That's why they were

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painting the hair orange. And I've seen orange hair people

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in Afghanistan. It's something they do. And there are stories

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of pilots seeing giants sleeping in huts, getting up and

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walking around. Now my personal experience, my one deployment to Afghanistan,

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I was a contractor, I wasn't a marine. I flew

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from Kabble, which is on the far east side of Afghanistan,

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all the way to Harat in the far northwest corner

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near Iran and so on a little plain. I remember

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looking out and seeing nothing but mountains, rugged mountains where

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there's no roads. It's like, I don't even know if

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a human has ever set foot right there in the

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entire Earth's history. And I go to sleep, I wake up,

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it's forty five minutes later. I've slept for forty five minutes.

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I look out and I still see endless, rugged mountains.

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I'm like, what in the world are in these mountains?

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And so of the giant stories of more modern giants

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come from Afghanistan, Mongolia, Siberia, so where there's like no

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human civilization that you still get these stories. And there's

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even pictures of Mongol of the Mongolian giant Ondoor Gondor,

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and it's a real picture. He's like twice as tall

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as everybody else. Let's differentiate the biblical giants, which were warriors,

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from people who have gigantism today Andrea the Giant or

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even the people it's usually a cancer of the petuitary

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gland that causes them not to stop growing, Robert Wadlow.

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But these people are weak, they're feeble, their bones break,

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bad things happen to them. The giants of Scripture were

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mighty men, so we're not talking about cancer of the

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pituitary gland. And so yeah, so I think it's quite

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possible that that giants are still around in some of

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the more rugged places. And even the Freemasons and the

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Resicrutions talk about the giants that will come back in

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the end, and that's the secret of Freemasonry, which is

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not this book, that's my last book.

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But anyway, Yeah, so it's like one of those things

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in This is a question that I've had and I

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haven't really dug deep into it, but maybe you have

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have some insight. Is are they remnant populations or are

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they like breeding populations?

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We there remnants for sure, what do you mean by bright?

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But but but you know what I mean, like, are

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they are government well, no, not even going there. Yeah, yeah,

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but like like out in the wild, like are they

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you know, like the Kandahar giant lives in a cave?

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You know, has that is that giant two thousand years old?

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No? No, no, I think you know what I meant. So

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we have and this is where it comes to the Americas,

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and we talk about the Citica, which is what the

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Piutes called the giants west and I'll tell that story

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because that's the best one of them. So we have

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American Indian legends all over the country of giants, most

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of them redheaded, uh you know, eight foot tall, but

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some of them eleven twelve foot tall, like maybe Goliath.

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But you see carvings all over the United States of

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polydact no, not polydactylely of whatever the six fingers thing is.

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You see six fingers six toes. Dozens of carvings in

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the United States with six fingers six toes giants next

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to people. But the Sitka, the Piute nation out in Nevada,

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they were being cannibalized by the Sitiica, the red headed

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giants that lived in the mountains, and a bunch of tribes,

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including the Piute, came together and banded together to kill

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these giants. It was called the War of the Giants

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with the Piotes and Sarah Whenamucca from eighteen to late

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eighteen hundreds, there's photographs of her. She tells the story

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as her great grandfather, the chief, told the story of

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the War of the Giants. They had killed out most

468
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.039
of the giants, but the last of them they had

469
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.359
cornered in Lovelock Cave in Nevada, and they piled brush

470
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.720
in front of the cave and they lit it on fire,

471
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.359
and whatever giants did not die to smoke inhalation came

472
00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.720
running out and the Indians pelted them with arrows, and

473
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.519
that is the end of the Sitica Sarah when Amuka,

474
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.640
there's a picture of her wearing a dress that has

475
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.119
the red hair of the giants in woven into the dress.

476
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.400
She talks about her dress in the hair of the giants. Well,

477
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.400
if you go to love Lock Cave today, my brother

478
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.599
went there and filmed two years ago. He's an archaeologist.

479
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:17.799
There are burn marks all over the entrance to Lovelock Cave,

480
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:20.680
just like the piot storytells, and so there are stories

481
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:25.359
all over. Guano miners in nineteen early nineteen hundred, they

482
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.279
found these giants in Lovelock Cave. They were mining guano

483
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.559
for gunpowder and they found these giants in their artifacts,

484
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:35.319
shoes that were assize seventeen ducks, little things that they

485
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:38.400
had made. But those bones were on display at a

486
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.839
local museum in love Lock until about two thousand and eight.

487
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.240
The bones are no longer there. So there's stories from

488
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.400
all over about the giants that were recently here. So

489
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.039
what we see with the conquest of Joshua Moses killing

490
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.200
off the giants, the giants spread, The giants get away

491
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.440
from the Middle East, they go to the Americas, they

492
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.680
go to all kinds of places to get away from

493
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:01.519
the kN quest. Everybody's counting them killing them.

494
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.440
Yeah wow. So like so with that being said, you

495
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:10.279
said things about we have tons. I'm from New England originally,

496
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.640
we have tons of giant bone stories like in their end.

497
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.599
And I lived in Illinois for a long time and

498
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:20.079
we have mounds, Indian mounds, and there's just well and

499
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:23.359
we say, I say Indian mounds because who knows what

500
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.920
they actually are. But do you believe history is being

501
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.240
hidden and rewritten?

502
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:32.319
Yes, by the Smithsonian.

503
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.759
By you know, it could be more than that too,

504
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:39.559
but you know that might be the mechanism. Right.

505
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.440
So chapter six in the Secret Society's book is called

506
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.759
Secrets of the Smithsonian. It's about the cover up. And

507
00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:50.920
you can go to the Library of Congress website and

508
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.160
you can look up newspaper articles for one hundred and

509
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.000
now we're one hundred and twenty six years now, somewhere

510
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.839
around the nineteen hundreds, and you can find newspaper articles.

511
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.319
There are dozens of newspap articles that talk about giant

512
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:04.200
skeletons found here. And the stories are all the same.

513
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.480
In that book, I have like nine of them, pictures

514
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.000
of them. These are real articles written and all the

515
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.079
stories are the same. They find these bones and then

516
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.839
they call the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian comes and gets the bones,

517
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.960
and they're never heard from again. We have pictures the

518
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.559
Irish Giant. We have plenty of pictures of giants. And

519
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.799
you know, it's called a hoax, it's called a conspiracy theory.

520
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.359
It is a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy theory. But yes,

521
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.480
so there was absolutely a cover up because the existence

522
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:38.960
of giants proves scripture, right, because if you understand the

523
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.279
giant worldview and scripture, so much of scripture makes sense.

524
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.920
Yeah, definitely, so.

525
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:49.160
Do you.

526
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.799
I mean you brought up the obviously we're part We

527
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:56.799
have the Internet, right, and we have most of the

528
00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.599
information ever created at our fingertips, right.

529
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.920
Except for that that wasn't burned in the Library of Alexandria.

530
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:08.160
But go ahead, right, But what do you think do

531
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.680
you think so most people would say that we're in

532
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:16.759
a age of information, Yeah, but do you think we're

533
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.480
in an age of information or disinformation?

534
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.359
Well? Both? With all the massive amounts of information, especially

535
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.680
with AI, we're getting a lot of disinformation. I'm struggling

536
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.640
myself on my x feed and my YouTube feed to like, man,

537
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.720
I shouldn't watched this video. I wasted my time because

538
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.400
of the AI that's out there, which I use. AI

539
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.880
use a lot of AI, but there's a lot of

540
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.920
people who just like tell it to do something and

541
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.839
then throw it in front of everybody without even editing

542
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.920
or or putting it together, cobbling it. So, yes, Daniel

543
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.160
chapter four or Daniel chapter ten says toward the end,

544
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.440
knowledge will be increased. Obviously, the Internet has been the

545
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.400
biggest boom in knowledge, and so Daniel is prophesying the end.

546
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.319
He's prophesying about the end times and the knowledge that

547
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.039
there will be We're definitely in an age of information

548
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.160
and misinformation. So I will take that point to say,

549
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.759
people need a foundation for what they believe. And what

550
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.640
is your foundation? Is it your church? Is it your

551
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.920
pastor is it your favorite sports icon. I contend that

552
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.000
everybody's foundation needs to be the Bible, because I believe

553
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.799
that the sixty six books we were given are the

554
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.079
inspired word of God. I talked about writings outside of

555
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.319
scripture all the time, the Book of Enoch, the writings

556
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.799
of Michael Heiser, these are not inspired words works, but

557
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.519
the sixty six books we have are inspired. So you

558
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.960
need to know what your foundation is. Filter everything that

559
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.960
you hear, and filter everything that I'm going to say

560
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.200
today through your knowledge of the Word of God.

561
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.319
Yeah. Personal discernment, right, I mean we're in the world

562
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:56.359
literally flooded with narratives, so it discernment is a huge skill. Yep,

563
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:01.319
to get in needs to be anchored somewhere. So yes, sir,

564
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.960
So what roles do podcasts like this one and others

565
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.119
in your opinion have and shaping this conversation?

566
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.000
Now, it's an important work if God has called you

567
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.000
to do it, then it doesn't really matter what anybody

568
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.559
says to you if you know God has called you

569
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.200
to do it. I do speak at conferences a number

570
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.039
every year, and I have had people come up to

571
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.960
me at conferences and say they came to Christ because

572
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.640
of this weird stuff. They said they knew something wasn't

573
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.200
making sense. And when they hear not just me, but

574
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.160
other people like you and all the other well, I

575
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.240
bet I'll start mentioning names because there's a bunch of

576
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:39.240
guys and gals.

577
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:40.440
Yeah, but you can.

578
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.720
People when they watch this stuff, they realize what's really

579
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.279
going on. And the Giant worldview is one of those

580
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.119
that traditional Christianity has shunned, but it's truth. And so

581
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.480
now that people put all this together on these podcasts,

582
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.880
they're really starting to see what's really going on. So,

583
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:00.720
you know, if it brings people to Jesus, and as

584
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.200
long as you're not sinning and doing it or speaking

585
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.119
of something evil, then yeah, if it's what God's called

586
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:06.640
you to do do.

587
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:12.119
It, yeah, agreed. And I mean, what's something you would

588
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:16.599
something that you believe that most people would call crazy,

589
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.559
but you're convinced it's true.

590
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.480
I work for Southwest Radio Ministries, and I'm happy to

591
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.240
work for Southwest Radio ministries. I'm not going to go

592
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.240
to the extreme. What's something that I believe that people

593
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:29.799
will call me crazy for within the bounds that I

594
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:37.920
have an employer. The giants, the watchers, demons are not angels.

595
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.599
Angels and demons are two different things. Satan, Okay, this

596
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.519
is probably good. I've talked about this plenty. I speculate

597
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.119
that Satan is not the oldest rebel on the planet.

598
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.759
I speculate that Satan is a more modern since the

599
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:54.200
birth of Christ New Testament time, he has been an

600
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:58.720
angel for the whole time. But I speculate that the serpent. Well,

601
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.599
first of all, the Bible never says that the serpent

602
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.079
in the garden is Satan. It says in the New

603
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.400
Testament it says that old serpent the devil. But what

604
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.720
people who say that's automatically Satan don't understand is there's

605
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.200
different types of angels. That's Chapter three is the multitude

606
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.599
of Stars, the different types of angels. There's all kinds

607
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:22.000
of angels. There's archangels, malachem, cherubim, seraphim, watchers, and we

608
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.799
see the Cherubim have bird heads, bull heads. I think

609
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.119
lion heads is the other one in human heads. And

610
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.759
so we have these weird angels. Well, guess what, There's

611
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.759
another type of angel called a nakash, and it's a

612
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.200
serpent type of angel. And this is mostly than the cosh,

613
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.519
mostly come from the Samerian mythology. But I do believe

614
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.759
because Satan is that old serpent. Satan is a serpent.

615
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.519
We also see Gadril and non canonical writings as a

616
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:53.000
nakash Azazel, who is mentioned in Leviticus sixteen he and

617
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.039
the Apocalypse of Abraham. He is called the serpent in

618
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.319
the garden. So where was I going with all this? Oh?

619
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.640
One of the crazier things. So I believe that Satan

620
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.000
is the most powerful evil entity roaming the earth today.

621
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.240
He's not the most powerful entity in the earth because Apollion,

622
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.039
who rises out of the pit in Revelation nine, is

623
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.400
the king of the abyss. Why is a polon chained

624
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.640
in Tartarus. But Satan's left roaming the earth doing his will.

625
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.440
So on the earth that we wore against, Satan is

626
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.519
the most powerful. He has seventy plus subordinate princes, fallen angels,

627
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.480
under him, and he is the prince of this world.

628
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.279
Right now. He takes Jesus on top of the temple

629
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.519
and he says, I will give you all the kingdoms

630
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.599
of the world if you bow to me. Well, Satan

631
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.319
wasn't just bluffing. He owned the kingdoms of the world

632
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.160
except for Israel. And we'll get into that a little

633
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.440
bit too. So yes, So I would say the fact

634
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.160
that I don't think Satan is the original rebel. I

635
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.880
think you have a bunch of fallen angels Seamyaza the

636
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.359
leader of the Watchers, as Zazel, Satan, you have a

637
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.039
I don't necessarily have to say. They're all part of

638
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.160
one hierarchy. They're all enemies of God, and they're united

639
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.319
in their their disdain for God and war against him.

640
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.319
So I would say that's one of them.

641
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.279
Yeah, Satan's more of a job title frankly in the

642
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.440
Old Testament. In the Old Testament, right, But I love

643
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.720
the It just kind of made things make sense to

644
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.200
me when I looked at it that way, with job

645
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.599
and that whole thing. But and then I've studied U

646
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.200
over the past few months. The Book of Jubileese, even

647
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:34.799
though it's you know, not canon Uh, that worldview. That

648
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:40.160
part about like him recruiting angels and it's not his

649
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.440
name's not Satan in that, but him recruiting uh minions.

650
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.160
In essence, it makes a lot of sense. So what

651
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:58.839
you're saying to me makes perfect sense. So but uh yeah,

652
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.359
let's let's go into that a little bit. What we

653
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.440
were just talking about, the what that world view?

654
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.480
So the Princes of the Nations Chapter two in my

655
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.360
book Angel's Eternal is called Rise of the Prince's Fascinating Topic.

656
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.199
So this is what I speculate and what I believe.

657
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.480
Scripture backs up what happened after the Tower of Babble.

658
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.320
We're talking about after the flood, God divides the world

659
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.079
into seventy different nations, seventy or seventy two, depending on

660
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.079
if there's four accounts in scripture of the Table of

661
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.840
Nations Genesis chapter ten from the Mazuritic King James Mazuritic

662
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.480
is seventy. Luke from the King James is seventy two.

663
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.039
There's seventy two nations, seventy two languages if you read

664
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.559
the Greek except two again, it's seventy two in Genesis

665
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.199
and seventy two in Luke so you have three of

666
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:48.400
the accounts saying seventy two nations, one account saying seventy,

667
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.000
So seventy seventy two. This is the number of the gods.

668
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.880
In secret Society symbolism, you'll see the number seventy two, seventy,

669
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.639
but mainly seventy two pop up. It's talking about the

670
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:02.400
gods of old well. Around the Apotheoses of Washington. It's

671
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.880
the painting underneath the rotunda ceiling of the US Capital.

672
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.400
It is George Washington's ascension into godhood, the Illuminati style

673
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.119
of freemasonry, sticking it to George Washington's style of freemasonry.

674
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.159
And around that painting are seventy two stars on the

675
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.239
back of the dollar bill. There are seventy two bricks

676
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.599
in the Unfinished Pyramid. It was Sir Francis Bacon before

677
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.119
the founding of the United States a century before. He

678
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.760
desperately wanted the new World to be Atlantis reborn. He

679
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.960
wanted America to be a place to bring back the

680
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:35.280
old gods, and through the Illuminati and the Illuminatis infiltration

681
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.199
of freemasonry, that was a big part of the founding. Again,

682
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:43.159
that's the last year's book. But the gods. So I'm saying,

683
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.639
before we go into the biblical detail, when God divides

684
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.039
the languages of Bibyle, he divides the world in the

685
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.239
seventy nations, that is where he chooses Israel as his

686
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.199
chosen people. This is Deuteronomy, chapter thirty two, verse seven,

687
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.039
eight and nine verse nine. God chooses Jacob as a

688
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.760
lot of his inheritance, that is Israel, and it says

689
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.320
in verse eight that God divided the world according to

690
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.960
the number of the children of Israel, which is seventy

691
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.119
from Genesis forty six. So God divides the world in

692
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.559
the seventy languages and seventy nations, and he puts fallen

693
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:17.119
angels in charge of those nations right after the tier

694
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.480
of Bibble. There is a lot of biblic evidence for this.

695
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.239
People read that these passages were getting read to talk

696
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.400
about and they're like, no, no, no, no, but we'll get

697
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.840
into that. So he puts angels in charge, and in

698
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.440
my speculation, this is not biblicet based, though it does

699
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.800
back up some other ideas that it could be true.

700
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.559
I speculate that those fallen angels were physical beings for

701
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.800
their natural lifetimes and when they died they became the

702
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.800
princes of the powers of the air, still controlling their nations,

703
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.440
but in a spiritual realm they made idols. The people

704
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made idols to them after their physical bodies were dead, which,

705
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.639
by the way, is the answer to the question I

706
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.280
could asked the most, how did the giants come back

707
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.039
after the flood? Genesis six says there were giants in

708
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.840
the earth in those days and also after that. So

709
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.360
if the giants were the result of angels and human

710
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.719
women having giant offspring before the flood, then it stands

711
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.920
to reason that the giants came back og Goliath. All

712
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.360
the giants that David and Moses fought against Joshua, it

713
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.480
stands the reason that they're the same result of the

714
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.440
same unholy union. So I speculate that these seventy plus

715
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.039
because you got seventy chief princes over seventy nations. But

716
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.679
each of those, I'm sure had plenty of fallen angels

717
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.000
working for them, right those if they become physical beings,

718
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.719
they're going to take human women as wives and have

719
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.559
more giants. This gives rise to the post the Louvian giants.

720
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.159
Now again that what I just said is speculation on

721
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.760
my part. I'm not basing that in scripture, though it

722
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.440
does answer a lot of questions.

723
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.920
So can I ask you one question though, just the

724
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:51.480
Enerjeck were the were the did God a point where

725
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.119
they fallen angels from the get go? Or were they

726
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.960
angels in general like we're and then fell because of

727
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.519
because then you have some and.

728
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.840
So so I don't know, is my answer. I don't know,

729
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.239
but it's a question I've had of my own. Now

730
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.519
we see and we can talk about it because there

731
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.199
are some verses that give us some insight. First of all,

732
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.400
Daniel chapter ten, it talks about the Prince of Persia.

733
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.760
It is an evil, spiritual prince over the Kingdom of Persia.

734
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.199
Daniel chapter ten also talks about the Prince of Greece.

735
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.559
So in Daniel chapter ten we have two of those seventy,

736
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.880
the Prince of Persia the Prince of Greece. In Daniel twelve,

737
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.559
Michael the archangel is named as a chief Prince of Israel,

738
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.719
so Michael is underneath Yahweh who runs Israel. Dagon Deagon

739
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.360
was the god of the Philistines, half fish half man god,

740
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.079
and Dagon's evil influence from his spiritual realm is still

741
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.920
seen in the world today, because who is Dagon the

742
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.920
god of the Philistines? Where do the Philistines live Gaza?

743
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.559
So Dagon is the evil spiritual entity over what's going

744
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.000
on in Gaza today. So we do see these influences

745
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.280
of these rulers that spread with their people after their

746
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:07.039
physical bodies died. They follow blood lines after their physical

747
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.679
bodies died, and my speculation, so there is plenty of

748
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.360
evidence for the princes. In scripture we mentioned Daniel chapter

749
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.880
ten Psawm eighty two, one of my most favorite chapters

750
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.000
and one of the most mysterious chapters in all of

751
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.320
Scripture until you understand what's going on. Psalm eighty two

752
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:26.039
is only eight verses long, fascinating read. God sits among

753
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.000
the gods. Now when we say gods, we're talking about

754
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.960
fallen angels, lowercase gods. God sits among the gods and

755
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.960
he's judging them. He says, you better start treating your

756
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.039
people better, or I'm going to cast you to the

757
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:40.880
earth like one of the princes, and you will die

758
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.159
like men. He literally says in psalmty two, you are gods,

759
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.280
but you will die like men. And at the very

760
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.480
last thing, God says in Psalm eighty two eight, he says,

761
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.639
I will bring all nations back to myself. So when

762
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.800
God separates the nations at Babel and he curses, he

763
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.719
judges those nations that are not Israel, the Gentiles. He

764
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:03.039
judge them by putting evil entities over charge of them.

765
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.840
But he doesn't do the judgment without a promise, just

766
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.199
like the other judgments. He says, one day, I will

767
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.960
bring you nations back to me, just like he does.

768
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.920
And people say, well, God wouldn't put evil angels over nations.

769
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.199
God condemned mankind to permanent death, separation from him in

770
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.920
the garden, but he sent a way of salvation through

771
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.280
Jesus Christ. God judged the entire earth in the flood,

772
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.320
save those on the ark. God. So to say God

773
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.079
wouldn't do that, I'm sorry. God has judged humankind and

774
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.840
the angels all throughout scripture, and so this is another judgment.

775
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.159
So the princes of the nations in psalmatey two one

776
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.000
specific verse, because we're gonna get to it, says the

777
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.960
poor and needy, God says, deliver the poor needy to

778
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.920
those princes. Quit being mean to the humans, quit treating

779
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.079
them poorly. We see this echoed in Greek mythology in

780
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.320
the Story of Atlantis, the second paragraph of Plato's Recordings

781
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.960
of Atlantis. There was a time when the gods divided

782
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.480
the world among themselves, and he gets beside in Atlantis.

783
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:04.280
And in the city of Atlantis, there is a pillar

784
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:06.519
of laws in the very center of the city. And

785
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:11.239
the gods demi gods and gods demigods, being nepheline, half angel,

786
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.599
half aring, they gather around that pillar of laws every

787
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.280
few years to judge each other on how they're treating

788
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.760
their human subjects. That's exactly psalmighty two that we see

789
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.639
in Greek mythology is so these princes of the nations

790
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.360
more evidence in scripture that this is what's going on.

791
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.920
We have the Feast of Tabernacles. The Jews, God's chosen people,

792
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.119
one of the seventy nations. They have the feast of Tabernacles.

793
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.639
And what do they do at the feast of Tabernacles?

794
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.599
They sacrifice bulls? And how many bulls do they sacrifice? Seventy?

795
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.239
And the secondary meaning of the Feast of Tabernacles is

796
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.760
not only is God the God of Israel, but God

797
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.760
is the God of all nations, and one day he's

798
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:51.719
going to bring the nations back to himself. So they

799
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.199
sacrifice seventy bulls as a symbol of the seventy princes

800
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:58.039
of the nations. So in the Old Testament, anytime you

801
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:03.559
see bulls, cows, bulls of Bashan, it's usually talking about

802
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.599
these princes of the nations. Fascinating. Psalm twenty two is

803
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.119
a prophecy. Psalm twenty two is a prophecy about the

804
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.000
crucifixion of Jesus. Psalm twenty two was written supposedly by

805
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:18.159
King David, a thousand years before Christ was crucified. It says,

806
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.960
many bulls have encompassed me their teeth, gnash is a

807
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:26.039
roaring lion. My bones are showing. They cast lots from

808
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:29.679
my vestment. Psalm twenty two is prophesying the crucifixion. Well,

809
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.719
when we get to the crucifixion the bull, not only

810
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.679
do you have Roman soldiers, Jews, Jesus's family, anybody else

811
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.559
in the spiritual realm, you have Satan and the bulls

812
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.400
of Bashan. The seventy princes are around Jesus at the cross.

813
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:44.880
Why do I say that so boldly, because I've got

814
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.800
a verse right here somewhere, and the New Testament it says,

815
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.320
I will uh. I don't want to give the reference

816
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:51.599
because it's not right off the top of my head.

817
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.639
The New Testament says, I will show you a mystery.

818
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.599
The bull. The princes of this world would not have

819
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.920
crucified our Lord had they known crucifixion was the cattle

820
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.400
for salvation. Those are the bulls of Bashan that were

821
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.880
around Jesus at the throne. So Jesus and this is

822
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.079
a chapter on the prince that was promised. Jesus comes

823
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.320
to the earth for three reasons. Most Christians understand that

824
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.320
Jesus came to the earth to save us from our sins,

825
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.840
to reverse the curse of death in the garden, But

826
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.880
most Christians that I've met and talked to do not understand.

827
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.440
There's two other reasons that Jesus came, and this is

828
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.239
primarily from doctor Michael Hayser's book Reversing Harmon Hermon being

829
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.079
the mountain that the watchers descended on. Jesus also came

830
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.920
to reverse the curse of the watchers, which means the

831
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.119
demons that are on the earth which are not angels.

832
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.840
And he also comes to reverse the curse of Babel. So,

833
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.039
since we're on Babel, how did Jesus reverse the curse

834
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:44.519
of Babel? Well, the Lord divides the world into seventy nations.

835
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.840
When Jesus' ministries on Earth, how many disciples does Jesus

836
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.039
send out into the world seventy? And when those seventy

837
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:55.679
disciples speak, everyone hears it in their own language. Everybody's mystified, like,

838
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.559
how are we hearing this guy speak? I hear him

839
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.440
in my language, you hear him in yours. That is

840
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.039
a direct reverse of the language curse of Babel. But

841
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.280
also to reverse the curse of Babel, you have to

842
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.760
defeat the princes of the powers of the air, and

843
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.679
Jesus does just that. As we talked, Satan took him

844
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:11.880
on the temple and said, I will give you the

845
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.800
kingdoms if you just worship me. But Jesus didn't do it.

846
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.840
That was a temptation of the promise fulfilled that Jesus

847
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:19.880
would take them without the pain of the cross. And

848
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.599
Jesus denied Satan and said no on the Father's terms,

849
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.079
not on yours. And so Jesus revelation off the top

850
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.079
of my head, revelation one says that Jesus will inherit

851
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.159
or has inherited, the kingdoms of this world. So Jesus

852
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:39.559
is reversing the curse of Babel. Coloutions somewhere it says

853
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.159
that Jesus has spoiled principalities and powers through his victory

854
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.039
on the Cross, So that is reversing curse of Babel,

855
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.800
reversing the curse of death. And then what we haven't

856
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.559
talked about is reversing the curse of the Watchers. So yes,

857
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.480
I think we were talking about the princes of the nations.

858
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:55.239
So there you go.

859
00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:00.760
Wow, goodness, I love it. I just love it. Yeah,

860
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.440
I really do. Like this is the stuff that just

861
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:10.760
really solidified. Well because this podcast started as a bigfoot podcast,

862
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:15.440
it started as a Sasquatch podcast, and then I, you know,

863
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.239
I've always been in the scripture and reading and starting.

864
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.280
What it was is I really read one of Michael

865
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.920
Heiser's books sent me off to the raises. So I

866
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:34.920
love what you're talking about. So yeah, keep what's what

867
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:42.559
is your favorite story of this like from your books

868
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.679
in this in this lane, what is your favorite story?

869
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.239
Well, the giants from the Watchers, But let's get a

870
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.480
little more specific on recent studies. So currently I'm writing

871
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.519
my book for this year, slated to come out later

872
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:55.239
this year. It's called Me.

873
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.440
So is that what you do about one at one year?

874
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.800
One a year and then also do uh kids books?

875
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.960
I do one kid's book a year, and they're like

876
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:07.440
full color kids in their dinosaurs, mainly from the.

877
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.719
Little Pressure Brother. Sure.

878
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.320
So those two of them are older five to twelve

879
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.519
years old, and my newest one, a baby in her dinosaur,

880
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.199
is more of a numbers of numbers and colors and

881
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.039
different things. That was for like zero to five years old.

882
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.920
Why was I telling you about my kids? But oh

883
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:24.320
what I do?

884
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:24.480
So?

885
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.440
Yes, I generally write a full book a year and

886
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:29.840
then I do a kid's book in the later part

887
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.119
of the year. So the book that I'm currently writing

888
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:36.360
is Mythologies Decoded Echoes of the Bible, the idea that

889
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.639
these mythologies are all pointing to something. These mythologies are

890
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.000
echoes of some sort of truth because there's so many similarities.

891
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.360
The flood stories, I mean, you have accounts of these

892
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.519
mythologies talking about the global flood well that has to

893
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.840
be rooted in something local floods in some of their cases,

894
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.039
you also talk about, and this is what I've been

895
00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.079
writing last week, the chaos monster at creation where they're

896
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.480
this serpent, this dragon, this Leviathan, this something, and in

897
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.119
these mythologies that the god or the hero has to

898
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.639
go slay in order for the world to be made.

899
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.039
In Norse mythology, the slaying of the giant, his body

900
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:16.280
becomes the earth. In Greek mythology. In Babylonian mythology it's Tiamat,

901
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:18.639
which is a name from Final Fantasy Ie love it

902
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.079
Tiamat and the bail cycle Bail fights Tiamat. Yeah, so

903
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.960
you have like twelve or thirteen of these ancient mythologies

904
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.920
to talk about the God slaying the dragon. Well, in Scripture,

905
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.280
in Genesis one, there's no dragon. The chaos of the

906
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.320
void in Genesis one two simply obeys God. God is

907
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.719
more powerful than these stories of the ancient gods that

908
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.599
are not him. But you do get into Psalm seventy four.

909
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.639
It talks about Leviathan that God cut his heads heads

910
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.039
multiple so he's a hydra, which is why on this

911
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.320
cover of this book, I made Leviathan with three heads

912
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:57.079
because Psalm seventy four talks about the heads of Leviathan

913
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.039
being cut off a hydra, just like from Mythology. But

914
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.719
Gennis or Psalm seventy four is a chapter about creation

915
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:05.840
because you read the next three verses. It talks about

916
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.159
the sun, moon, and stars being created and all that.

917
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.800
So while Genesis one does not give a picture of

918
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.280
a chaos monster, Psalm seventy four and a number of

919
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.239
other passages talk about rehab the dragon do talk about

920
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.239
God's slaying a monster at creation. So anyway, that's a

921
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.400
long story to say. Mythology is decoded. Echoes of the

922
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.920
Bible is what I'm writing right now. It'll be out

923
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:25.559
later this year, and I'm having a ton of fun

924
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:27.400
with it. I wish I had the cover to show you.

925
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.800
It's on the website already. It's Zeus and a minotaur

926
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:32.119
fighting with lightning bolts.

927
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.039
It's awesome, awesome.

928
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:38.719
Other fascinating things from Mythology the story of Apollo fighting Python,

929
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.480
the giant serpent, where they build the oracle and the

930
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.920
girl becomes demon possessed sitting over the fissures at sheet

931
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.599
of the Earth. Python is a giant serpent in the

932
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.719
Greek mythology. Python is named in scripture. It's not in

933
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.360
the King James because it's translated a spirit of divination,

934
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.840
a girls possessed by a spirit of divination. But in

935
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.679
the original Greek scept two again the girl is possessed

936
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.079
by a spirit of Python. And once you understand that

937
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.039
mythological story that the oracle was built on top of

938
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.400
where Python died and the steam came out of the

939
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.840
ground and possessed the girl, you get to the girl

940
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:10.840
possessed with the spirit of divination and the New Testament.

941
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:16.880
It's fascinating to make those connections. So again that's the right, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,

942
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:17.679
fascinating stuff.

943
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:23.960
It is fascinating. Yeah, I definitely am uh that. It's

944
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.679
all these all of these stories rhyme, right, and there's

945
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.880
a reason for that. The patterns are patterns for a reason, right,

946
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:38.079
And you know that demi gods are nephelum or you know, yeah,

947
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.199
you know. I'm right there with you. I'm right there

948
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:42.800
with you.

949
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.079
Go ahead. Now, there are two different topics in Angel's

950
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.880
eternal that do want to get to. Yeah, I'll talk

951
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.199
for as long as you want to talk. But the

952
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.480
two fascinating ones is the Divine Council. That one's a

953
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.840
pretty quick discussion, and then the giants that inhabit hell.

954
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:58.320
That one's the one I want to spend at the

955
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.679
time on so real quickly the vine account, Well, let's

956
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.199
not get into Let's go with the giants first, because

957
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.920
we will have time the giants in hell. So I'm

958
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.280
a believer of the Bible. If you are as me,

959
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.360
the Bible is absolute truth. And the Bible talks about

960
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.719
giants in Hell in at least four different books of

961
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.679
the Bible. And this is a fascinating topic. So let's

962
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.719
first talk about what is hell in the English Bibles.

963
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.880
Hell the word that appears on the page, never appears

964
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.280
in the original Hebrew or the original Greek. Hell is

965
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.280
an English word combining three different locations into one word.

966
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:33.239
In truth, there are three locations to the underworld. There's Shiel,

967
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.519
which in the Greek word is Hades, so Sheiel Hades.

968
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.760
Then you have Tartaris, and then you have Gahinna, the

969
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.800
lake of fire. So the easy one, the lake of

970
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.800
fire Gehinna. Jesus uses the term Gahinna referring to a

971
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.639
valley outside of Jerusalem as a place of final punishment.

972
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.320
It is the lake of fire. The lake of Fire

973
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.679
is currently empty in the earthly timeline. It's not until

974
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:55.920
after the Great Day of Judgment that Satan, the fallen

975
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:59.800
angels and unrepenting humans and likely demons will be cast

976
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:01.440
in to that lake of fire. After the Great Day

977
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.480
of Judgment. The Tartarus is the imprisonment of fallen angels.

978
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:09.519
Humans do not go to Tartarus. Tartarus is from Greek mythology.

979
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:14.000
That's the word used as the Titans. Let's see the Karnos,

980
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.360
the king of the Titans, is cast into Tartarus and

981
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:19.400
a bunch of other Titans. Of course, these are fallen

982
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:24.320
angels in Bible. And then the word Tartaris is in

983
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:28.159
scripture one time Second Peter chapter two four. God cast

984
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:33.039
the angels into the prison under chains, the spirits that

985
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.039
made trouble in the days of Noah. Let's make this

986
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.599
connection before we get to the giants and hill. People

987
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.440
will say that these sons of God in Genesis six

988
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.199
are not angels, the Baneahaia, Lahim and the Hebrew. But

989
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.320
sons of God came into the daughters of men and

990
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.920
had giant offspring with them. People will say, well, that's

991
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.159
the sons of Seth. These are godly humans. These are

992
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.320
not angels. That did this. Well, I'm sorry, but scripture

993
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.280
is full of references to these angels that send in

994
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.559
the days of Noah, and God put in chains on darkness.

995
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:03.320
That's Second Peter chapter two, verse four, June chapter one,

996
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.840
verse six. And the angels which kept not their first estate,

997
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.840
he hath reserved in everlasting chains to the judgment of

998
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.840
the Great Day. There is a prophecy in Isaiah. I

999
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:14.199
thought it was Isaiah fourteen, but off the top of

1000
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.960
my head, I don't remember. It says the Messiah Isaiah's

1001
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:21.519
Old Testament is prophesying. The Messiah will visit the spirits

1002
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.760
that the angels that send will The scripture fulfills that.

1003
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.039
First Peter chapter three, verses eighteen nineteen and twenty, Jesus

1004
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.800
dies on the cross, his body is his physical bodies

1005
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:33.719
in the grave, and his spirit is on the earth

1006
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:37.039
for three days. And Second Peter chapter three, verse eighteen

1007
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.880
nineteen twenty it says he went down into shield and

1008
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.679
he proclaimed his victory over the spirits that made trouble

1009
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.320
in the days of Noah. So there are all these

1010
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.440
scripture verses that talk about the angels that send and

1011
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.639
Noah's day. Also, if these are men that are having

1012
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.079
giant offspring with women. It doesn't explain why there are

1013
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:55.840
giants if they're the godly line of Seth. It also

1014
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.000
does not explain why God sent a flood to destroy

1015
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.440
the earth if godly humans are having children. So this

1016
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.199
is the giant world view, and this is what's going

1017
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.719
on when scripture connects it. Now I've used scripture this

1018
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.199
whole time. There are non canonical books that talk all

1019
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.400
about it, talk about what the giants did to creation

1020
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.079
with the watchers taught all kinds of forbidden knowledge, which

1021
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.320
you do find in Genesis chapter four, the Forbidden Knowledge

1022
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.599
of the Sons of Limek. You find the forbidden knowledge

1023
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.239
and Revelation twenty one to seventeen in the Measurement of

1024
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.000
the Cubit, that is a measurement taught to humanity by

1025
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.679
the angels, Revelation twenty one seventeen. One interesting thing is

1026
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.079
that in the non canonical works, the giants begin to

1027
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.639
sin against mankind, that you, begin to eat mankind, drink

1028
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.119
their blood, and they begin to sin against the animals. Well,

1029
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.880
guess what the giants eat humans. In the Bible Numbers,

1030
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.480
chapter thirteen, the Spies give an evil report of the land.

1031
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.920
The land is filled with the people that eat the inhabitants.

1032
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.519
And it says numbers. Chapter thirteen says they are the

1033
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.000
sons of Anak, the remnants of the giants. Know the

1034
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.400
sons of Anac. Well, Augu is the remnant of the giants.

1035
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.559
So anyway, we were talking about the giants in hell.

1036
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.920
That was a lot of preface. So the giants in

1037
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.719
Hell passages is Isaiah fourteen, Hell from verse nine. Hell

1038
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:06.599
from beneath is moved for thee to meet the at

1039
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.599
that coming. It stirreth up the dead for thee, even

1040
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:12.480
the chief ones of the earth so dead. Here is Rafaem.

1041
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:14.559
Refaem is one of the races of giants. King Ogg

1042
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.119
as the last of the Rafaem, and the chief ones

1043
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.400
are the Gibborim. And so I was talking about the

1044
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.519
giants in Hell, Hell from beneath his mood for THEE.

1045
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:24.800
I told you the three layers of Hell. We're talking

1046
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.800
about shield. So in my opinion, shield is where the

1047
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.079
demons are. Demons can come back and forth from the

1048
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:33.760
surface of the earth to shield humans. Unrepenting humans are

1049
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:38.039
an abdon, the bad side of Shiel. Repented humans before

1050
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.159
Christ were in Abraham's bosom and Luke chapter sixteen says

1051
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.440
there's a great gulf between Abdon and Abraham's bosom both

1052
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.639
in Shield. That's the d realm of the dead. So

1053
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:48.719
these giants we're talking about are not in Tartars with

1054
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.840
the angels. They're not in the lake of fire there.

1055
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:55.079
In Shield Ezekil thirty two twenty one through seventeen, it

1056
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:59.039
talks about the mighty ones who are in Hell. The

1057
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.559
Greek Septuagen translates it as the giants of old are

1058
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.920
in Hell. Isaiah twenty six thirteen through fourteen. Other lords

1059
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.239
beside thee have dominion over us. They are not dead,

1060
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.280
they shall not live. They are deceased that were there

1061
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.960
as refaem. So we have three passages that mention the

1062
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.519
Rafaem or Ghibborim in hell. So what in the world

1063
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.239
are going on with these giants in hell? To answer

1064
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:24.679
that question, you have to know what demons are. Demons

1065
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.760
are not fallen angels. Satan is not a demon. Satan

1066
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.320
is a fallen angel. He is a prince of demons.

1067
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.519
So what are demons? I don't know anybody who is

1068
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.639
who believes God created demons at creation. So how did

1069
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.280
they get here in the last seven thousand years five

1070
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.119
hundred years. Well, the demons are the spirits of the giants.

1071
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.440
This gets into more non canonical writings, but it says

1072
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:49.400
when the giants died in the Flood of Noah and

1073
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.519
in the War of the Giants, that Gabriel caused them

1074
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:54.719
to fight before the flood their spirits. There was no

1075
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.199
place for their spirits in heaven. So their spirits are

1076
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.800
destined to roam the earth, tormenting mankind, causing havoc on mankind.

1077
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.719
And we see that in scripture demons are possessing people.

1078
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.199
So when I say Jesus comes to reverse the curse

1079
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.440
of the watchers, not only does he have to deal

1080
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.920
with the watchers shimyaza as Zazel, he also has to

1081
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.320
deal with their offspring, the demons. And who's the first

1082
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.440
person in scripture to cast out demons Jesus Christ. He

1083
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.599
is at the demon possessed man of Copernium, the Synagogue.

1084
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.880
Jesus is establishing his foothold, saying I am here. I

1085
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.440
have come to reverse the curse of the watchers, which

1086
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.800
we'll get into a minute, giants in hell. So if

1087
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.559
demons are the spirits of giants. We're talking about demons

1088
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:37.039
in hell. Giants in hell. There are passages that talk

1089
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:41.039
about them having weapons in hell, so why are they there?

1090
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.800
Acts twenty three eight is a passage that tells us

1091
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.199
that demons and fallen angels are two different entities. The

1092
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.920
statutes confessed angels and spirits. The Pharisees don't, so that

1093
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.920
tells you from scripture that demons and fallen angels are

1094
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.559
not the same thing. So if the demons are the

1095
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.920
spirits of the giants, that in relation makes the demons

1096
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.559
the children of Shimyaza, the leader of the watchers. So

1097
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.119
we have these giants in hell. Where does that lead us?

1098
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.800
It leads us to the end times. Revelation chapter nine,

1099
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.239
the angel comes from Heaven to the bottomless Pit. So

1100
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.440
Tartarus is mentioned once in scripture, but if you ever

1101
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.119
see the words abyss or bottomless pit, it is talking

1102
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.679
about Tartars, the place where the angels are changed. So

1103
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:24.599
in Revelation nine to one, this angel has a key.

1104
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.639
Demons can go back and forth between shield. Samuel comes

1105
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.000
up from Shiel to talk to the Witch of Indoors

1106
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.800
and Saul, so humans can be summoned up from Shiel

1107
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.679
as long as God allows it. But obviously the Witch

1108
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.679
of Indoor did it, and so the Tartarus is shield hut.

1109
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.519
Angels are not coming out of Tartars except for the

1110
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.360
key in Revelation nine to one. And Angel descends from heaven

1111
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.159
to the Earth and unlocks the bottomless pit. And out

1112
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.039
of the pit comes Apolium, the king of the Abyss,

1113
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:53.119
and come demon Locus, which are demons. So these demons

1114
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.800
coming from the shield portion with Apollion are coming out

1115
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.679
onto the earth. Now this gets real fascinating. Let's go

1116
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.960
out of scripture real quick to the Ugaridic texts. The

1117
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:08.880
Ugaritic texts were written fourteen hundred BC. They talk about

1118
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:12.480
a great feast of the gods. It says, come to

1119
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.400
our feast. The giants will go to the feast. They

1120
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.800
will ride chariots, they will ride horses, and they will

1121
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:22.360
eat birds, rams, calves and lambs. This is a non

1122
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.480
canonical text that we found one hundred years ago in Syria,

1123
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:27.840
the ugurdict text they're called the Rafayem texts. Well, why

1124
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:31.880
is this important because six hundred years after the Rafayem texts,

1125
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.840
Ezekil records the same feast in scripture. He says, the

1126
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.000
giants will attend the feast. The birds will eat the

1127
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.880
flesh of the Gibborim, the rams, the bullocks, the horses,

1128
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.880
the chariots, the mighty men. But Ezekil is not recording

1129
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:47.199
a past event. Ezekil is recording a prophecy of future

1130
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:51.920
things to come. Because Revelation nineteen we have the same feast.

1131
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.119
An angel stood in the sun in Revelation nineteen, and

1132
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.840
he told the birds to gather to the supper of

1133
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.239
the Great God, that they may eat the flesh of

1134
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.280
mighty men. That's the King James quote right there. This

1135
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.679
feast of the gods is the battle of Armageddon. And

1136
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.840
will how do the demons? How do the giants who

1137
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.599
are in hell come to battle of Armageddon? Well, they

1138
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:16.159
rise out of the pit with Apollon, And then Revelation

1139
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.679
nine speaks of a two hundred million men army from

1140
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:24.039
the east. Well, Ezekiel says that the birds will eat

1141
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.559
horses and mighty men, horses and giants, But he says

1142
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.280
the birds will eat chariots. I can understand how birds

1143
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.559
will eat fleshly men, but how are they gonna eat chariots?

1144
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.880
We'll guess what the chariots are metaphor the chariots are

1145
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.000
human hosts. The demons from Hell will possess two hundred

1146
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.519
million men, and at the great feast of God, the

1147
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.239
Battle of Armageddon, the birds will feast on the flesh

1148
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:46.119
of the nepheline. Again, that's a chapter, the last chapter

1149
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.840
of my book, Age is Eternal. Fascinating topic. So that

1150
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.880
leads the question, Him Yaza came to the Earth before

1151
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.079
the flow with two hundred watchers. He rebelled, and why

1152
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:59.239
did he come? Because they thought human women were hot? Well,

1153
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.119
I mean Corinthians talks about women covering their head because

1154
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.559
of the angels, right, Well, no, I think him Yaza

1155
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.639
came to the Earth to breed an end Time's army,

1156
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.880
knowing that the giants' bodies wouldn't last, but that their

1157
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.599
spirits would endure to come to the Battle of Armageddon.

1158
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.320
I'm speculating that the angels in Genesis six not only

1159
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.480
liked the look of women, but also wanted to breed

1160
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:23.079
a demonic army for Armageddon. Again, fascinating stuff. And that's

1161
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:24.280
the last chapter in the book.

1162
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.599
Yeah, somebody I want to say, it's maybe like La

1163
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:34.360
Marzouli or somebody talks about the that the uh, they're

1164
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.559
breeding an army, right, and maybe I don't know how

1165
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.719
that would I know how it would come together is

1166
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:47.199
that they're breeding these entities or or vessels in essence

1167
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:52.159
for the demons that that you're talking about. Yeah, I

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01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:56.320
think that's a pretty I can't remember when I heard that,

1169
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.079
but it was essentially that.

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01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.480
The best book on the topic that I found is

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01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:03.639
Derek Gilbert's Second Coming of Saturn. Yeah, he talks about

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01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:07.360
a lot of what I just talked about. So, as

1173
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.559
far as you know, there are demons that come out

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01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.280
of hell to possess men. So I don't know they

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01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:14.639
need to breed special giants or anything for them right.

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01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.320
Now, but it's just one of those things. Is like,

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01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.079
you know, I think you'll have plenty of vessels on

1178
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.199
the earth, right And I think that's what I think

1179
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.239
that's where the where they were talking about is the

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01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:32.159
two hundred million. There's what eight billion people right now ish,

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01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:34.960
so I think there'll be plenty of vessels that absolutely

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01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:35.920
that they can possess.

1183
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.599
Like that, Let's wrap up that a little bit with

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01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.519
Jesus the Gatekeeper and I still have other things if

1185
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:42.280
you want to spend time.

1186
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:44.320
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, we can keep going.

1187
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.960
Jesus the Gatekeeper. So we talked about Jesus going down

1188
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.599
into Shield and proclaim his victory over the watchers of

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01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.840
spirits that made trouble in the days of Noah. Well,

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01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.199
there's something else that happens, and this gets us into

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01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:58.440
a Christian schism for the last two thousand years. Jesus

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01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:03.400
takes his disciples to Cssory of Philipi area and he

1193
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:06.280
is transfigured out on a high mountain. Most people say,

1194
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.559
that's Mount Table or I've been there in Israel, but

1195
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.519
Mount Table is only nineteen hundred feet tall. Mount Harmone

1196
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.320
within eyesight of Mount Table or is nine thousand feet tall.

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01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:14.880
Yeah.

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01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.880
So the Grotto of pan if you've ever been there,

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01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.320
the Grotto of pan Aminous place. It's got a giant,

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01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.119
gaping hole in the mouth of the mountain and the

1201
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:28.400
Greeks the ancients called it the gates of Hell. And

1202
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.519
Jesus he takes him there and he says, who do

1203
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:34.159
men say that I am? Who do you say that

1204
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.639
I am? And Peter says, thou art the Christ, the

1205
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.000
Son of the Living God. And Jesus looks at Peter

1206
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.239
and he says, on this rock, I will build my church,

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01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:44.639
and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.

1208
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.639
So Catholics say that Peter is the rock on which

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01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:51.920
Christ will build the church, and Peter becomes the first pope.

1210
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.519
So the church, according to Catholics, is built on the papacy,

1211
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.280
the intermediator between God and man. Of course, the New

1212
01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.000
Testament clearly says there's only one mediator, and that's Jesus Christ.

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01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:01.880
It's not a man. Yes, I'm not going to say

1214
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:05.400
going down that road right now. Protestants believe that the

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01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.239
rock Jesus was referring to is the words that Peter says,

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01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.559
the Christ, the son of living God. I'm a Protestant,

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01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.119
and I agree that Jesus Christ is to the Christ

1218
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:15.480
and the son of living God. But I don't think

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01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.719
Jesus was saying out of one of those things, on

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01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:19.599
this rock, I will build my church. I think Jesus

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01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.760
is pointing at Mount Harmon, pointing at the gates of Hell,

1222
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.920
and defeating the watchers, ceremonially saying that he has defeated

1223
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.480
the watchers, saying, on this rock where the watchers descended

1224
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.719
from heaven, on this rock, I will build my church,

1225
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:32.559
and the gates of Hell. You can see Jesus pointing

1226
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:34.599
at the grotto a pan at the gates we just

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01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.239
talked about that are there today. You can go see

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01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:38.519
him on this rock. I will build my church, and

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01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:41.119
the gates of Hell will not prevail against it, because,

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01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.880
like I said, after Jesus, when he was in spirit

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:45.559
for him for three days, his body was dead. He

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01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.079
goes down into shield proclaims his victory, and then he

1233
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.039
takes the righteous dead that are in Abraham's bosom, and

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01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.719
he ascends with them out of the gates of Hell. However,

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01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.920
you can translate the spiritual realm to the physical, and

1236
01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.719
he ascends with them to Heaven on Mount Hormon. Because

1237
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.159
one eight or one eighteen says Jesus holds the keys

1238
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.559
to Hell and of death. Jesus holds the keys of

1239
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.840
Phanatos and of Hades and the Greek. And so that's

1240
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.280
Jesus the gatekeeper, taking the undead righteous to Heaven with

1241
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.519
him and ceremonially defeating the watchers by building his church

1242
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:18.360
on Mount Harmon.

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01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.880
Yeah, my buddy, and I who is a he's a

1244
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.159
was a marine as well, but he is a he's

1245
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:34.559
a Palestinian, but Christian. Not a Palestinian Arab or he's

1246
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:36.559
an Arab, but he's you know what I'm saying, he's

1247
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.079
not a he's not a Muslim, he's a he's a Christian.

1248
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:44.559
And we've been talking about going and doing filming from

1249
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.239
Mount Hermon to the to the Temple of the Giants,

1250
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.880
to down to the Gates of Hell or the Temple

1251
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.320
of Pan, whatever you want to call it, which is

1252
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:59.199
also the which is also the uh the headwaters of

1253
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.679
the George. So either way, we've been talking about going there.

1254
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.719
And not only that, but I love the food.

1255
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.840
Oh yeah, yeah, Ale restaurant there, the Grottoa Pan. Yeah yeah,

1256
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:11.960
that restaurant right there.

1257
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.519
Yeah. I love all the food from all of that area.

1258
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.199
I don't know. I spent time in. I spent a

1259
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:23.639
year in Egypt. Well it was Sinai in Egypt, but

1260
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:25.920
you know, at one point they used to be part

1261
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:30.679
of Israel. Either way, climbed Mount Sinai, did the whole thing.

1262
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.559
It's it's just a great area and I love it.

1263
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.920
So talk about the Divine Council a little bit.

1264
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.880
So The Divine Council is Chapter one in Angels Eternal

1265
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.360
and the divine council. What the concept is is, it's

1266
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.079
a God has a heavenly courtroom, a council of spiritual beings,

1267
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.000
and a lot of Christians balk at that God has

1268
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:55.079
a council. God doesn't need a council, But I'm sorry.

1269
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:58.320
Scripture says he has a council. Onet King's Chapter twenty two,

1270
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.960
starting in verse nineteen, This is importance. I'll read this.

1271
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.920
I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all

1272
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.880
the host of heaven standing by him, and at his

1273
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:08.199
right hand and on his left. And the Lord said,

1274
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.960
who shall persuade Ahab, which is a human king? The

1275
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.039
Lord says, who will persuade Ahab? That he may go

1276
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.000
up and fall? At raymonth Gilead and one we're talking

1277
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.599
about angels. Here one said on this manner? One said

1278
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:21.920
on that manner. And there came forth a spirit and

1279
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:24.360
stood before the Lord and said, I will persuade him.

1280
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:26.920
And the Lord said, under the spirit wherewith, And he said,

1281
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:28.920
I will go forth, and I will be a lying

1282
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.480
spirit in the mouth of his prophets. And he said,

1283
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:34.559
thou shalt persuade him and prevail, also, go forth and

1284
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.599
do so. This is in the throne room of God.

1285
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:39.239
It literally says that you have spirits in front of

1286
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.400
God debating on how to handle Ahab, and God says,

1287
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.199
how are you going to do it? And he says,

1288
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:46.599
I'm going to go whisper in the ears of his prophets,

1289
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:47.960
and his prophets are going to whisper to him in

1290
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.840
the physical realm. That's a great insight into the workings

1291
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.199
of the spiritual realm. And God says, how are you

1292
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.719
going to do that? And the angel answers, and God says,

1293
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.599
go do it. So that is the divine counsel in action.

1294
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:01.239
We also see the divine counsel and the story of

1295
01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:04.159
Nebu Kenezer. It's the chapter where the watchers are mentioned

1296
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:07.199
three times. If you remember, Nebu Canezer is cursed by

1297
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.079
God to live in the fields as a beast and

1298
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.719
eat ox eat grass as an ox. Well, the scripture says,

1299
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:15.079
Daniel Tennant says, this is by decree of the watchers.

1300
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.079
I mean, wow, this is a decree of the watchers,

1301
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.280
and nebby Caneza is going to do this. And that's

1302
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:23.639
another example of the divine council in scripture Job one

1303
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:26.039
and two. As you mentioned, we see these scenes all

1304
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:29.559
throughout scripture of the Sons of God, the Benehail Luhim

1305
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.360
meeting with God, and Satan walks among them. In Job too,

1306
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:35.320
the Hitan. I think it's a watcher whose job it

1307
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.000
is to accuse rich people of loving their riches more

1308
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.800
than the love of God. So this watcher says to God, Hey, job,

1309
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:43.840
let me have him and I will get him to

1310
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:46.159
curse your name. So that's part of the job of

1311
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.239
the watchers is to do that. Zacharia one, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

1312
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.000
twelve talks about the watchers. It doesn't name him by name,

1313
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.639
but it says they report to the Angel of the

1314
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:58.599
Lord the status the status of the earth. I believe

1315
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:03.400
that all the prophets, Elijah, Samuel, all the Old Testament

1316
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:06.840
prophets stood before the Divine Counsel and the spiritual realm

1317
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:09.920
before they began their ministry. There are a number of references.

1318
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.000
This is chapter one of the book. Number of scriptural

1319
01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:15.280
references that talk about the what the prophets who stood

1320
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:20.319
in my assembly the assembly of God. In fact, in Exodus,

1321
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:23.479
Moses is told to bring seventy elders of Israel up

1322
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.640
on top of the mountain to eat supper with the

1323
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:30.079
council and with Jesus. Jesus is the angel of the Lord.

1324
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.079
Or if God says my name in the Old Testament,

1325
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.319
that's Jesus, my name leads them out of Egypt. It

1326
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:38.479
is Jesus Us leading them out of Egypt. He is

1327
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.239
the one that the watchers report to. And Zacharia one eight.

1328
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.119
So the divine council fascinating again. We see Psalm eighty

1329
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:49.880
two where God sits among the gods and they're discussing humanity. Yeah,

1330
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.640
the divine counsel. And a lot of folks will say, well,

1331
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:54.880
God doesn't need a divine counsel, so God doesn't have

1332
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.399
a divine council. Well, guess what. God doesn't need a church.

1333
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.680
But that's how he is to operate. God didn't need humans,

1334
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:04.800
but he chose to make us. God doesn't need a

1335
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:07.159
divine counsel. I agree, but that doesn't mean he doesn't

1336
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:09.159
have it. Scripture is plain that he has a divine

1337
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.359
counsel and he lets them make decisions. And this all

1338
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:14.399
comes down to. In the preface of the book, I

1339
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:19.600
put out a concept free will. God purposely created humans

1340
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.000
and angels with free will. God created Adam and Eve,

1341
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:24.479
and he put a tree right in front of their

1342
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:26.720
faces and said, don't eat of it. God didn't have

1343
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.479
to do that. God could have created us autonomous robots.

1344
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:33.079
But humanity and the angels have free will. And this,

1345
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.520
I say experiment, but God's not learning outcomes. We are.

1346
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:39.920
This is God's grand free will experiment. Not that he

1347
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.079
doesn't know, but we don't know, and it's free will.

1348
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.199
And another fascinating thing on that topic, why did God

1349
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:47.720
put the serpent in the garden? Why? Why If he

1350
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:50.239
hadn't done it, things would have been great. Well, guess what,

1351
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:52.720
He's going to do it again at the end of

1352
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.640
the thousand year reign. He lets Satan loose on the

1353
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.439
earth again. Serpent, whether it's Satan or not in the garden,

1354
01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.520
it could have been. So, I mean, this is a

1355
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.359
grand free will experiment, not that God doesn't know what's

1356
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.720
going on, but that we don't and he wants us

1357
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.600
to willingly worship and follow him. And so that's the nutshell,

1358
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:12.520
the divine counsel and the free will that God is

1359
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.359
given to humans and angels.

1360
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:20.159
Yep, totally, I agree, it's awesome, fascinating, It's just we

1361
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.399
could talk about this stuff for hours and hours. We

1362
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:24.640
can talk about your books for hours, I'm sure, So

1363
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:30.399
maybe we'll have to do that again. Yeah, yeah, leaving

1364
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:35.000
people with something I like to ask the guests to

1365
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:39.840
since it's called broadcasting seeds, I like the guests to

1366
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:45.720
plant a seed before we go.

1367
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:50.119
Angelology is a neglected area of study. We talked about

1368
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:52.199
at the beginning, how pastors will skip over it. Again.

1369
01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.680
I'm not faulting pastors, but by not studying this stuff

1370
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:59.039
in the angelic realm, we are doing ourselves a disservice.

1371
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.199
Christianity is full of Christians who are babies. They haven't

1372
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:07.600
matured in their faith because it's hard to you don't

1373
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.239
want to look at certain passages of the Bible and

1374
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:13.039
really take them for face value. But this story of angelology,

1375
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:17.000
it amplifies who Jesus Christ is because Jesus Christ is

1376
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.840
the king of these all these entities we've talked about,

1377
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:22.439
except for the Father. He is the Father and the

1378
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:25.319
son of the Father. So Jesus Christ is more powerful

1379
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:27.880
than all these entities. And studying this stuff only magnifies

1380
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:31.159
a divine council. The existence of a divine council only

1381
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.720
magnifies the fact that Jesus is more powerful than all

1382
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.319
of them. So I like to say, we can study

1383
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:38.960
the weird stuff all day long, and that's what God's

1384
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.000
called me to do. I believe it's what God's called

1385
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.960
you to do. We enjoy doing the weird stuff. But

1386
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:47.399
I say Jesus Christ is the central point of all

1387
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:50.760
of history and all of scripture. Scripture doesn't give us

1388
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:52.960
details about the giants, not a lot of them, details

1389
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:55.159
about the watchers, but it gives us everything we need

1390
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:58.239
to know about Jesus to be wise unto salvation. So

1391
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.159
you can study the weird stuff all day long, but

1392
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.199
it's all for not if you do not understand who

1393
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:03.920
Jesus Christ was and what he did for you on

1394
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.600
the cross. So I leave that with folks to say,

1395
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.800
come study the weird stuff, but know who Jesus Christ is.

1396
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.479
Yeah, because it's all for not otherwise.

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Ye.

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Yeah. Tell people again where they can find you.

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Marginal Mysteries dot com. I've got Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, some

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other stuff, but it's all on the website.

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Links to it Facebook, make sure I have links, Thank.

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You Facebook, Mike evan Hus. But Marginal Mysteries dot Com

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is where we hub amazing.

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Thank you so much for coming on. It went by

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like that.

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It's been a great discussion and I wish I had

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more time. Man, let you know if I can help

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you in the future, but simplify, and I appreciate you.

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Absolutely, Thank you.

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Sliptorm storm flos in the city.

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It.

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Raffle by my side.

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Lived the truth, the moon home, load over babylons, bones,

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and something moved where the light never goes. I saw

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the shame part of the thing when norning.

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Shadow in the.

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Corn with the faces made of flame.

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Oh, come cold with my heart and my.

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Float, and every man around me still slip like a ghost.

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Some in fact, they can see some lost on him.

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When I've seen the dark.

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Behind the veil, heard of Gianians in the hills, a hell.

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It's blood and the dust, it's fire in the sky

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that thinks that don't die, and.

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The body die.

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So hold the line over your hands, may fa.

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There's a world going on behind the velin.

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My brother, show me words I never seen about songs

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of God and a ancient.

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See nose, blood lining, the flood and the fall, and

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the mighty man buried, And he said, ah, they told

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us those stories were omitted and smoke, oh desert legends

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and preaching man jokes.

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But the bones keep turning in the rich clay ground,

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and the truth has a waiting of crawling back out.

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Some man le fast walk dee.

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Fell some truth way thighs as I've seen the dogs.

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Behind the veil, ardle giants in the hill's axe hell.

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It's blood in.

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The dust, fire in the sky that things that don't

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die in the body.

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Dies to hold the line. So your hands made fel.

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There's a wall going on behind the veil that the

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gates of hell. He made his stand, scars.

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In his seat and keys in his hand.

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He walked through death like a cocker rinkvendeed. Even the

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watch has heard heaven sing. No sort of mine can't

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say my soul, No war.

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I fuck can make me old.

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I know the one who broke the chain, and I

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know the darkness still fuses name.

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I've seen the.

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Darkness behind the vel, heard old Gianet in the heels

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ex her his blood, and the dust is fir in

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the scout everything the dog dive and the body dies.

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So hold the light, though your hands made fire.

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Here's a king coming back behind.

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The vet who all like your fire, keep your steel,

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Pray like the battle.

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He's all already.

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Real because some w it's a fault where no one

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can see, and some man are called to make others believe.

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H