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And we're live. I've got guys from Neffolm Death Squad
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here and I'm gonna let them introduce themselves. So, guys,
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it doesn't matter what you order, whatever you want, tell
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us who you are and what you do.
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Go ahead, Top, now you go ahead, right, I'll go ahead.
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You and Raven one half of Nephel and Death Squad.
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It's a sort of a conspiracy show through a biblical lens.
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I also do Dangerous Retards. It's another show with Top
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and I as well as Clint Russell. It's more of
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a cultural and political commentary show. And I'm also the
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host of Timeline Clintons, which is purely a comedy show.
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That's it. That's all you do.
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That's it. I think that's all I do. Something like that.
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All right, Yeah, that's fine. I guess that was lackluster.
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You're bringing garbage, garbage energy today. Make me feel sleepy.
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I Top Lobster. Uh, that's what people call me. Name
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myself that after a Jordan Peterson book. He's since turned
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out to be gay, but I'm gonna keep the name.
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Uh.
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I do clothes. I do shirts and stuff like that,
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so you can spyd my merchant. Top loopster dot com.
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I do, I guess what you'd call comedy, which is
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uh this right here behind me Tower Gang, where we
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beat up on your favorite uh retards on the internet,
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and I do a bunch of shows with David as well.
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So I guess a conspiracy through a biblical Christian lens
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is what we look at. But then, uh, yeah, I
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don't know. We spend a lot of time getting called
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not Christian anyway, so that's yeah, that's always.
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To those people's Yeah, I was gonna say, to their credit,
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I mean we were. We certainly live a duality, you know,
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in a drastic sort of way where it's like, yeah,
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we're talking about the Bible, we're talking about conspiracies, but
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if you happen to be a retard, we're gonna drag
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you mercilessly on the internet, and in what I guess
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could be defined as a very Unchristian like manner.
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Well, I mean that's kind of I would say I'm similar,
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but not I don't go as deep as you guys do, obviously,
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but uh, pretty pretty awesome. I'm a fan of all
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your shows, and uh yeah, it's a pleasure to have
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you guys here. Appreciate you coming on.
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Thank you for for having us, brother. I'm excited for
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the conversation. We were talking a little bit before we started
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as to you know, I think you asked what it was.
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What did you say that got you into it? Had
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firsthand experience?
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Yeah, yeah, I also had some big football shit happened
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when I was young, and that's a whole other animal,
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right literally, yeah, and so but for me, it's conspiracy stuff, uh,
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you know, and whether it's you know, the government running
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drugs or that's a whole podcast on to itself, right,
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and that I could talk about. But basically my question
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to you guys is what is your gateway drug to
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this wonderful, wacky world that we live in, you know, uh,
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and that that you guys are doing the conspiracies, the
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you know, through the and and that's that's something I loved.
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That was very to me, That was very appealing for
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you guys, is that you do do it through a
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Christian I mean, you've got guys like Ed Maybray, he's
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like a wizard of the Bible, let's be honest, and
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he comes on and does you know Fridays with you guys,
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and it's it's awesome so I think it's cool and
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it's a little different. I mean, there's other guys out
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there that do that stuff too, just it's different flair. Right,
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So what's your guys's gateway drug to this whole world?
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Like when you were young or whatever?
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Well, Top was a he said, a human trafficking survivor.
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He was barely a victim of SRA as a child.
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That right, we were both being trafficked actually, and I
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would say that our bond is what got us through
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those those harrowing moments. No, Top, I mean you want
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to you want to take it away?
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No, you go, I want to. I want to hear you.
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Do you think it's actually a refreshing This is the
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first podcast we're doing in the week, so I need
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to be reminded of the story.
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The story that is well, I don't know if you
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know this, but I've been a conspiracy theorist since sixteen.
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That's that's for our audience out there. Every time I
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say that, they rightfully so they make fun of me
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because it turns out I actually have the same like
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seven to eight talking points that I just repeat at nauseum,
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and that's one of them. But when I was a kid,
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I had a lot of strange experiences, you know, shadow
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people and kind of the hat man, and I had
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a schizophrenic aunt growing up, and my grandmother was a
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frequent abductee victim of the alien abduction phenomenon, and so
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I guess this kind of thing found me more so
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than I found it, at least in childhood. And then
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when I got a certain age, and I think there
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was a there's a correlation here. I was hit with
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a baseball bat and after that I became a lot
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more I don't know how to put it, like I've
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either it was either the baseball bat or toxoplasmosis that
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like lowered my fear mechanism and made me suddenly I
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don't know how to explain it really tenacious when it
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came to somebody's lying to us and there's more to
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what's going on. And that happened at at like fourteen,
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and it was only years later that I found out
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about my grandmother's abduction phenomenon, probably by the time I
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was sixteen, And that led me down a big rabbit
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hole on the internet researching sleep paralysis, shadow people, because
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those things kind of go hand in hand. The abduction
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phenomenon hat Man, and then I come to find out
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that this is something that's really prevalent in my entire family,
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on my father's side of the family, on my mother's
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side of the family. And when you start looking into
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these shadow people and even the whole alien thing, eventually
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it's going to branch out to a much bigger picture,
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whether it's a government involvement in that sort of program, right,
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that abduction program, or if it's defining those spiritual entities,
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those shadow people and such as demonic and then that's
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one step away from like and here's their signs, and
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here's their sigils, and it's all over Hollywood, and it's
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all over the music industry, and so that would have
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probably been I would say, in hindsight, that was the gateway.
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It was learning about these entities to a small degree,
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but then seeing that there was like these spiritual symbols
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and signs that are like saturating Hollywood, and I think
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that's probably a gateway for a lot of people. We
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just talked to Isaac Weiss of a cult symbolism and
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pop culture and did I butcher that top is that
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the name of it show? Got it okay? And you know,
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that's like the gift that keeps on giving. That thing
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a cult symbolism and pop culture. So that was the
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gift that kept on giving for me. And then you know,
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you keep going down that path and eventually it's everything.
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It's nine to eleven. It's it just connects over and
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over and over again. And I would say that here
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I am, what twenty years later, almost nineteen years later,
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and it's still the same picture that I'm uncovering that
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I started when I was a kid, And I think
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it's the same one that we all are.
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Yeah, agreed, agreed? What about you top?
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Oh well, what got me into it?
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I don't know.
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I guess my family has always been kind of strange
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in a way, like they've I guess they've had supernatural
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stuff happening in and around my face family. But I
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never really like paid it too much credence, And but
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it's something that you grow up with. I guess you
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assume that it's normal. I'm starting to also find out
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that my grandmother, and I think both my grand my
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grandparents were kind of involved in some kind of weird
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occult stuff in some form or fashion.
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They both Santaia or like something like that.
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that they both said that they had given it up
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and basically said like, we'll never touch that again. But
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I don't think that those things really care what you say.
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I think they'll continue to do whatever they're going to do.
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So it's affected some of my family. I know, David,
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you've well you've seen an episode with my aunt and
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you've probably met her as well, and you've spoke to
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my cousin who kind of have these things happening of them. Yeah,
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and I've been witnessed to a lot of this. So
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it's been like it's always been this little side theater
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for me that I look at and I don't really understand,
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didn't really understand for a long time. And then I
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got into like politics in a weird way, libertarian politics,
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which is I'm not gay anymore, but I was. I
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learned a lot about that. So that opens up a
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different type of conspiracy realm, right, Like, yeah, we have
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a really new fun conspiracy now, very like I'm I'm
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a fan of the Q stuff. I think it's a bullshit,
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but I'm a big fan of it because it's like
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there is some like truth in it right now.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah, Like we had you on to talk about the
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little baron Trump stuff, so like that's all. It's always
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a lot of fun. But one of the latest things
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that's going on is the auto pen. I don't know
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if you guys have seen this.
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With Biden's Biden's signing his things.
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Is this like wait, I'm gonna take a guess, because
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I actually don't think I know what this is. But
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does this need to like scrying?
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No, uh in a way?
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No, No, okay, like a thing like you know, you
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got the autopen, you close your eyes, you start scribbling,
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next thing you know, shit starts manifesting. No.
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An autopen in this case is actually just a machine
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that holds a pen and it writes exactly what it's
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programmed to write. So all of his executive orders and
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all of his pardons apparently were written by autopen. They
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had a forensic uh like handwriting analog analyst look at
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it and they're exactly the same, which would never be
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the case, especially for a man with dementia. So he's, uh,
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they they just put a pen in a machine and
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they're like, sign this, mister president. He's like.
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Even fucking sign. It's like the least effort that you
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have to you know, contribute as the president is citing
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some shit. He can't even do.
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That well trumps over and over and over again, you know.
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Yeah, but he'll be on on stage though, presenting it,
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you know, showing this stuff. Here, I actually have the
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I'll share the screen here. Here is the So the
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pardons that Sleepy Joe gave to the Unselect Committee of
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Political Thugs and many of others are hereby declared void, vacant,
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and of no further force or effect because of the
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fact that they were done by auto pen. And then
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he like, uh, he shows Uh that's awesome, dude. It's
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it's politics is a theater at the highest level, right,
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is that what you say, David? Something like that? Okay,
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every episode, baby, every episode baby, peer in the White House,
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they have like, you know, forty fifth President Donald Trump
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or what is it, he's forty four whatever, Donald, The
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next guy is forty five or I don't know. So
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instead of Joe Biden, he's taking his picture off and
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he's just put a picture of the auto pen.
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That's so funny.
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It's Donald trunking bad.
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So it's stuff like this that really gets my dick hard.
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Well, that's huge, right, I mean, I know what we
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just said. It politics is theater at the highest levels.
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But that's huge for the Barisma, the Ukraine scandal, right,
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the new Hunter Biden situation is we kind of thought
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he was going to sail off into the sunset. I
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wouldn't have been surprised at all if we didn't see
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him answer for you know, all the allegations that happened
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during the Biden administration. He pardoned him as far back
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it's like twenty fourteen or twenty sixteen or some shit, right,
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which is when he got on the board of Barisma. So,
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I mean I thought that was done. I thought we
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were going to sail that away and Hunter Biden was gonna,
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you know, heading to the sunset, smoking cracks went.
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All the way back to twenty fourteen. Actually with his pardon.
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I guess he did not go fucking anywhere, though auto
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pen did it and it's and it's null noise.
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So I was looking and I wrote this down yesterday,
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and of course I haven't gotten to it except write
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down point. Want to hear things, I write down point.
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I do that research, right, I have a notebook filled
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with justicts freaking ridiculousness. I never research, but uh.
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You know, I so one of the things was like
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federal statute, because I know there is one a federal
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statute on auto pen Okay, but I don't know. But
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