April 22, 2025

Mystery, History & the Sixth Sense: A Dive into the Unknown with Tim Constantine

Mystery, History & the Sixth Sense: A Dive into the Unknown with Tim Constantine
Mystery, History & the Sixth Sense: A Dive into the Unknown with Tim Constantine
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Mystery, History & the Sixth Sense: A Dive into the Unknown with Tim Constantine

Join host Bennett Tanton and Tim Constantine of the Six Sensory Podcast for a deep dive into mystery, history, conspiracy, ancient knowledge, alchemy, and the power of intuition. Explore hidden truths, alternative theories, and the unseen world that...

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Join host Bennett Tanton and Tim Constantine of the Six Sensory Podcast for a deep dive into mystery, history, conspiracy, ancient knowledge, alchemy, and the power of intuition. Explore hidden truths, alternative theories, and the unseen world that surrounds us. If you’re into secret societies, suppressed history, spiritual awakening, or just love questioning the mainstream narrative—this episode is for you.

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All right, we are live. Tim, tell us who you

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are and what you do.

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Hey, thanks for having me on. Happy to be here.

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I'm Tim Constantine. I have a podcast called sixth Sensory Podcast.

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I focus on hidden history, alternative theories. They're a little

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conspiracy in there, and just anything else that kind of

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fits in between the cracks between those topics there and

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kind of just go where my interests lead me. And lately,

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like it's just been fun getting to talk to other people,

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you know, from around the world essentially and getting all

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those different perspectives. So at the end of the day,

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I think my show has grown because of all the

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different perspectives that I've been able to bring in. So

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that's what it's kind of become lately.

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Sure, where so where where can people find you? It's

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the best place?

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Yeah, and I know better. I should have said that already.

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I know better. Been doing this for at least a

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year now. So I'm on. I'm on. I'm on Spotify, Apple, YouTube,

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and Patreon.

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Okay, well, now where do you want people to go?

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Let's just you know, if you like Spotify, stick stick

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to Spotify, come find me on there. But yes, I

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do video on Spotify on Spotify. Yeah, but I'm trying

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to talk about Okay, I'll tell you, I'll tell you

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about all about it. But uh yeah, I'm trying to

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get people to come to my YouTube to answer your

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question because I just started that racon.

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No, I got it. We were talking about how people

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there's just people some some folks in our space, uh

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are So yeah, it's tough. YouTube's tough, It really is.

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But at the end of the day, a lot of

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people are like, screw on my mine even gonna deal

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with them? And then if you do either, you're a sellout.

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Well that's see. I mean, I'm I'm with you there.

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I've put off being on YouTube for a long time

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because of everybody I know in this space was being

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censored on there.

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Oh and they still are mostly mostly.

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And I haven't hit that yet, you know, knock on

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wood and but but there are episodes that I won't

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put up there because I know, you know, I'm just

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asking for it if I do. Yeah, and I don't know,

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like on that vein, are there things that you don't

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want discussed on? There's certain words you don't want discussed

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on here.

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Oh no, just do what you gotta do. I don't care.

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I'll figure it.

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Out, you know, like the JAB or any of that stuff.

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I always, yeah, I don't ever want to censor my

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you know, because so what I'll do is, like we

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talked about before, I'll either you know, I might maybe

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I have to edit it or whatever. But at the

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end of the day, I don't want to have to

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do that. But sometimes you do because the way that

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I answer folks in there sellout stuff is that's how

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I'm making money. Yeah, you know, and you can find

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the unedited plenty of places, and you know, and I

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think in the end we should all try to probably

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build our own place that we can say whatever we

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want you but but you know, that's a it's a

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tall order.

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I'd love to see, like the the alternative to YouTube

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pop up where there's.

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Ye I mean, rumble is okay, right.

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Yeah, but the place that's going to get the views

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and get bring in people and all that and nothing

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gets rumble.

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But you know, when they're trying, they are doing way better.

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But you know, I could see Spotify becoming the next

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YouTube and I think that they're trying to do that.

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I get emails from them and it, you know, just

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kind of reading between the lines and those emails, it

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does seem like they're trying to move towards a YouTube

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like model. Yeah, and I think they're trying to get

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people to go to video and they're you know, they're

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taking these steps towards that. So we'll see, we'll see

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and and you know, so far, so good with Spotify.

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They have they've been great with me, They've let me.

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I've only had one episode experience just a little bit

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of censorship. But I don't think it was people at Spotify.

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I think it was somebody with a back channel. They

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came in because you know, I was talking about a

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whistleblower and there was censorship just dripping down all the

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wall surrounding this case. It's this guy was on you

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or Sorry, he was on Reddit. He decided to come

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out and read it. And the thing with that is like, uh,

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you know, not everybody wants to do the day of

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a grush thing and and do lights camera action book

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deal Jeremy corfil By this. Not everybody wants all that attention.

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So this guy decided he was going to come out

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on it. Maybe it was four Chan first and then

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he moved to Reddit, but either way, it was read

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it and uh, it was only up for about two

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days and read it, took it down, and that's that's

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a that's a big problem. Read it. We were talking

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before we before you hit record, we're talking about this

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infiltrated infiltration stuff.

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Right.

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Yes, I used to stick up for Reddit. I used

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to think it was a cool community for people to

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go and talk about alternative stuff, edgy stuff, whatever. It's

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totally infiltrated by the I mean I just put out

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some some UFO footage a week or two ago. It

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was up for two hours on Reddit, and they took

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it down. They took it because what happened was people

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were starting to comment on the footage and say, oh wow,

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this actually looks legitimate, and as soon as people started

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saying that, they jerked it.

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Yeah it's rough, it's rough. So with that being said,

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what is Since I always ask the question, I guess

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what got you into this this high strangeness space? You know? Well,

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and what what was your gateway?

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Well for high strangeness?

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Well, I know they're distinctly different, but like you know,

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how everything kind of rhymes yeah a little.

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Bit, right, It's always been I've always just kind of

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had a natural inclination for the high strange part, and

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maybe even conspiracy too, because that is kind of where

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my show is going, more towards us, towards trying to

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untable history so we can get a better perspective of it,

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and and conspiracy as well. I don't think I'll ever

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call it a conspiracy show, but that but that plays

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because there is this there's a conspiracy around every corner

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once you start to figure out what really happened with

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our past. Yeah, but high strangeness. To answer your question,

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I had my first UFO siding when I was seven.

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Wow.

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And then when I was ten and a half, right

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before I turned eleven, and we moved into a house

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that was I guess you could just call it a

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haunted house. This stuff has always just kind of followed

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me around, you know, Like when we bought this house,

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I went in first run. You know, we pull up,

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I get out of the car first, and I just

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run inside because I have a brother and I'm trying

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to find I'm trying to pick a bedroom before he

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picks his back. So I run up stairs a two

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story house, right and I'm running upstairs trying to get

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the edge on him. And you know the people who

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lived there, I think they had two or three daughters.

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They took everything, they stripped the place clean. So I'm upstairs.

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Soon as you walk up the stairs, right in front

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of you is a is a closet door, and then

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there's the bathroom, and then there's all the bedrooms. Right,

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so I look at the bedrooms first. I picked my

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room already. I felt drawn to one of the rooms.

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I know that now. Now, I know that there was

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maybe something supernatural to it. Now and I'm not trying

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to get wu woo on you at all.

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I know, go right ahead, man, okay, but you know,

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and I get deep into that now.

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I wasn't planned talking about this today either, but I could.

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I could break down why maybe I was. I felt

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more inclined for that room. But anyway, the closet, I

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just I picked the room and I just, for whatever reason,

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I go to this closet and I open up the

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closet door. Empty closet except on the top shelf, the

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previous people left a Wigi board. I find the Oigi board,

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of course, because I'm the I'm the weird kid who

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has the UFO side. He's a seven, right and I

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take it downstairs and I showed my mom and I

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could tell by look on her face that she was

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not happy about it. My parents are they're they're Christian,

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they're very involved with church. So there was a you know,

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that was that was a no go. So she took it,

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and I think that she took it off the premises.

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I think she went, I don't know where she She

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didn't throw it away in the trash around the house.

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She took it somewhere down the road and threw it away,

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which was which was good. But so I didn't think

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anything else of it until we started having and still

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I started having all these weird attacks as a middle

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schooler in this room. And now, you know, twenty twenty,

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you know, you look back and you think, you try

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to put all the pieces together, and I realized that

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whoever was messing with that Ouiji board in that house

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probably had established a gateway or a port or where

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they don't call it there some sort of yep. And

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so because that's the kind of activity we were dealing with,

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there is like you would hear somebody. It sounded like

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kids running up and down the steps at night, and

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it was clear as day. You know it was. It

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was so it woke my dad up. It was so.

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It was the whole family too. It wasn't just yeah

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yeah so.

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And I mean I could just go on and on

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with that house, and I won't do that today. But

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I guess to answer your question, we'll see after that.

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When we were when I was fifteen, we moved to

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I was probably around fourteen. Anyways, we moved to Appalachia proper. Okay,

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I wasn't far from there already, but we moved to

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Appalachia and we moved into a community where there was

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I mean, honestly, man hand on the Bible, bigfoot activity

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or something. Something was going on there. Like the kids

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in youth group came up to me. There was There

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was one girl in particular. I thought she was crazy,

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but she came up to me not long after we'd

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been living there, and she goes, have you seen them yet?

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And I was like who? And she's like the people

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who live in the woods, but they're not people something

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she said something along, So I was like, man, this

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girl's nuts. Then I lived there up through high school.

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Right when I graduated high school, I was still living

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in that community. My girlfriend when I was a senior.

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She lived right down the road for me, and she

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had had a bigfoot experience where one she lived down

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this long, windy driveway, one walked right out in front

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of her car and made eye contact with her. Scared

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her to death. Like when we get back from dates,

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she would have to like, you know, it'd be dark out,

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we'd be right in front of her house and she

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would pull right up to where all she had to

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do was just kind of run into the front door, right,

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but she'd have to work up the wheel to get

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out of a car at night. She was and this

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was she wasn't like a bigfooter. She wasn't like watching

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the documentary as few as they were at the time.

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She wasn't into that whole bigfoot culture. It wasn't anything

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like she just saw something weird and I and I

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always I was always asking her, like, well, what what

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was it? She was like it was like a man,

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like a big old hairy man, but that except it

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wasn't a man, right, So it's just like, and I

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could go go on and on and all the stories

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like this, but I've always just had I don't know,

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I've always been haveing these close encounters.

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Yeah, you've always been It's always been in it. You've

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always been in it. Yeah, I understand. See, Bigfoot's my jam.

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That was my gateway. I'll have to a paranormal activity. Yes, Well,

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because I grew up in a haunted house, right, isn't it.

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It was weird to call it that, right, Yeah, but

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it's the best way to really was Yeah, it's the

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best way to convey the idea of what you're trying

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to you know.

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Yeah, And I lived there until I was ten ten

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or well, I guess it would have been more like twelve.

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But anyway, Yeah, man.

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I could tell you stories on end about about that

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community growing. They they wouldn't talk about the older people

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in the community. Anybody over forty would not would not

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speak about this. And I think that's why to this

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day I've talked to a lot of Bigfoot researchers who

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they kind of roll in that North Carolina area. This

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was in North Carolina by the way.

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Yeah, and it's one of like four places.

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They don't know about this town because the people have

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literally it's the town secret that there's I'll just put

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it like this sasquatch or sasquatch like activity there I

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don't know what this.

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Is, what what town?

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Well, i'll tell you after, okay, because I don't want

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to put.

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The no I got you, I understand, and that's I

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was gonna say.

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But absolutely, okay, I won't tell I'll tell you. I'll

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tell you a couple of specifics though, just because I

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don't want to put these people on blast. I mean,

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I really want to be the one guy who breaks

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the fifty years or one hundred years of silence that

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they've somehow managed to maintain because nobody knows about this

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place because they don't talk about it. But if you

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live there long enough, you start to realize something's going on.

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And I've heard older people in that community say, because

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I have a family friend now from the time when

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we live there, I still go to her cabin. And

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last time I was up there at her cabin, we

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got to talking, you know, late night, and I told

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her some of my stories and she said, and she said,

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it was the wood booger, the bogah, and she just

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she wouldn't go any further into it. She left it

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at that. But basically, where I live, where I was

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experiencing all this was if you it was, it was

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It was great. Actually, like every morning when I got

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up and went to the bathroom, if you looked out

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my bathroom door, it was it looked like a painting.

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Yeah it was. It was just like you calling it

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the wood bugger. I know ish where it's at, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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because it's one of my favorite places in the world,

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is that Appalachian Corridor from Virginia all the way down

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through Tennessee. I just love it there, western North Carolina,

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eastern Tennessee, southern Virginia in West Virginia as well. I

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love it there. Man. I am literally drawn to it

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and have been since the first time I visited. So well,

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you're you're like me.

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It sounds like when whenever you roll in to that area,

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that region that you just laid out, I get this feeling.

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M hmm.

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It's a very spiritual place. It's a very sacred place,

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and if you're a certain type of person, like it

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sounds like you and I are, you feel drawn to it,

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like there's a magnetism to it. And I mean even

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up into the Shanandoah, which you out there.

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Yeah, Blue Ridge and all that manutes yep. But yeah,

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so basically from like Winchester, Virginia, South.

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Yeah, so it's pretty awesome, I'll tell you this. So, yeah,

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so my I had a mountain across the street, uninhabited mountain, undeveloped.

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It belongs to a Native American tribe. They the mountain

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is sacred to them, so it's never been There's not

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even a shed up there, there's nothing. Wow, that's where

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a lot of activity was happening, because I think that

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nobody's lived on that mountain for a very long time.

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Whatever this phenomenon is is is drawn. So that's where

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we'd hear the screams and all that. So then then

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there's then the mountain comes down, there's the road, and

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then up on a hill is my house. So I

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got that perfect picture X view of the blue rich

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mountains behind me. And then and I'll just I'll just

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I'll sprinkle this into because I'm not trying to be

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too cryptic. I just don't want to like put it

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on blasts where this place is for these of course,

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because they were really good, A lot of them were

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really good to me and my family. But I'll just

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say it like this, not too far north of us,

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it was Gaelics, Virginia, and I always heard strange rumors

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coming out of GAELICX. They said that there's a you know,

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a deep underground military base up there that's under it's

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not it's it doesn't have any signs up or anything

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like that. It's totally covert, total clandestine military base up there.

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And the rumor is is that they had some sort

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of some sort of a chime era creature project or

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they were they had some they had a big foot

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up there, and they had it captured and then they

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let one for you know how the stories go. But

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that's the rumors that there's the base there and that

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they messed around with these creatures.

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And you know what, maybe they did.

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It's possible.

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You never know, it's anything, frankly as possible at this point.

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I mean, I just I had Alex pettakoffa on recently

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from small town vis. He's a bigfoot guy, and he

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was telling me the story because you know, he spent

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a lot of time up in Alaska and and he

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was up there talking to these locals and we talked

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about this. We talked about how there's there's a commonality

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in mentality between people who live in rural Alaska and

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maybe people who live in rural Appalachia, and that's this

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celicism where they don't talk about this kind of stuff.

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They don't want to tell you about bigfoot and their

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bigfoot stories. But every now and again, some you'll meet

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somebody who will say, well, I did have an experience,

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and they'll talk about it. But there's the point is

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is you're not talking to people who want to make

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up stories and want to They don't want to be

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looked at as crazy, first of all, so they don't

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They're not necessarily just feeding you a load. And he

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was telling the story that he heard from a local

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up there. This guy was on a snowmobile in a

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very remote region and he stopped his snowmobile in a

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valley to roll a cigarette, and he saw us military

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of some sort sort of guiding a what are we

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going to call it, a troop of bigfoots that were

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chained up and they were carrying something. I don't remember

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what he said they were carrying, but they went they

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went up through this valley and they disappeared inside of

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a mountain, like some sort of a dome inside of

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a mountain. That's the story Alex was telling me on

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the show. So it got me thinking again about you know,

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the crazy Gaelic stories about this military base.

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It doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of military up

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in Alaska. There's a lot of bases. There's a couple

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you know the rest. I say a couple, meaning there's

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you know, a lot.

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Yeah, you got the Black Pyramid rumors up there.

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Yeah, I don't know about all that. I've I've kind

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of been digging a little bit, but I haven't gotten

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deep because I uh I I had a Bigfoot experience

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up in Alaska and that was crazy when I was

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in London. I have but I don't want to get deep.

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And my audience is sick, hair and meat. I hear stuff.

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So but at the end of the day, yeah, I

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get it. Yeah, I gotta have Elexant drun a lot.

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He's he's a he's a really solid guy, really solid guy.

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I I've come to find because I said, you know,

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my parents are very involved with church and growing up,

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and I think maybe this was like preparation for me

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to one day have the podcast. In a weird way,

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growing up, we'd always have these people come through and

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the missionaries would all stay with us after church. The

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missionaries from all around the world would always come end

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up at my house around our big table, telling stories

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late into the night. It's one of the best parts

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of my experience growing up. And I've come to find

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that all the Alaskans are the Alaskan missionaries. That's a

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different breed. It's a different breed of people all together

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up there. And we had one guy. This guy was awesome.

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I mean, I won't say his name, but he was

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good friends with my dad. Whenever he would come to

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North Carolina, he would take us up in his sesna,

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and I just have this great memory of going over

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Pilot Mountain in this guy's sesna, and every time he'd

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take a turn, you know, you're just you're completely on

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your side, looking straight down through this little window, and

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it's a kind of a heck of an experience. But

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this guy would get around the table and he'd start

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telling his his stories from Alaska. And one of the stories,

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I'm gonna try to get this right, and it's been

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years since I've heard it, but he was out. Guy's

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a hunter and he was scouting new places to hunt,

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and he was trying to find a very untapped remote

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region to hunt. So he's out in Assessina up there,

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and he finds a place to land kind of a

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bald I think on top of like a hill if

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I am, if I can remember that correctly, and grassy spot.

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So he lands his plane. He's very remote. He gets

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out and he as soon as he gets out of

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the plane, he talks about how he stepped out onto

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these weird rocks. Didn't think much of it. Goes around,

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the plane goes around to like the backside of this

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hill where it starts to slope, find some sort of

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an entrance down there, like a cave, and there's inside

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the cave there is a big chunk of ice and

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within that is preserved. I think he said it was

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a fully preserved dinosaur.

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Hm.

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So that story was unfolding after that for a long time,

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like he would come he would come to North Carolina

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and give people updates on it because a team of

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people came in there to like sort of excavate the thing.

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But anyway, he gets out. When he gets back up

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to his plane, he starts looking around at those weird

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rocks and it turns out that those were mammoth bones.

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Oh wow, And I think I've got this right. So

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I'll just throw this in real quick because I can't

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remember if it was a mammoth in the ice and

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it was dinosaur bones or vice versa. I'm pretty sure

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that was what was in case in the ice was

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some sort of a dinosaur. Now, I know people these days,

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that's a that's kind of a hot topic. Not everybody

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believes in in dinosaurs or whatever. But that's he found

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something out there and it it went quiet because he

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had a website up that was sort of documenting the

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you know, the excavation process of this, and that website

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has been taken down. I need to get in touch

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with it. But you know, that's one of the crazy

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stories that I heard growing up about Alaska.

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Of course it's insane. Yeah, it's awesome though, but it is.

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It's Yeah, it doesn't shock me one bet.

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Unfortunately I never asked him about bigfoot.

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M they're out there, man, and they are. It's that

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whole uh, that whole theory of Uh, it's not a theory.

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It's really proven that animals, you know, the farther north

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you get, the bigger they are. And I think it's

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the same is for sasquatch.

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Right right, because once you get down into the swamps

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of Florida, they have that skunk ape right in the

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sad Yeah. Right, it's smaller because wellb like.

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Five six feet maybe seven at the most. But you've

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got reports from Alaska and Canada and even some places

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over in Europe where you're talking ten twelve feet. That's

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just the difference between an eight foot animal and a

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ten foot animal. Yeah, it's two feet in height, but

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when you talk about width and weight, it's it's exponential,

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it's unbelievable. So you're talking about you know, a twelve

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foot or ten twelve foot, let's just say ten, that's

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probably like a twelve hundred pound animal. That just blows

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your mind to me, it does. Yeah, like if you

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were to need that out, no, no, but I keep

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running and going after him.

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In my mind for there to be possibly some sort

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of metaphysical angle to this thing, to his creature, to

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whatever it is, because you know that a creature that big,

463
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you would think would have to be eating all the time.

464
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.720
Yeah. Maybe, yeah, for sure.

465
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:25.880
Well I'm with you, maybe right, you would think.

466
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.359
I mean, I really look at it in a biblical

467
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:34.359
kind of lens. I'm there now where I think there's

468
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:38.160
some stuff going on with like Nephlum, Yeah, I agree,

469
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.599
like some Nephelin blood or something. It's like fallen angel

470
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.079
something going on. I don't necessarily think they're just flesh

471
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.720
and bone. I mean, I think they are, but I

472
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:55.000
also think there is a there's another aspect to them.

473
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.960
Have you heard bo Kennedy's take on that bow from

474
00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:58.880
the book podcast?

475
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.000
I feel like I had. I've listened to a lot

476
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.599
of Bose, a lot of those stuff and I and

477
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.519
I just can't thank of it right off the top

478
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:08.960
of my head.

479
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:13.240
But I'll do my best to just to just tell

480
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.799
this and I don't want to like completely tell his story.

481
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.119
But from what I remember, he had a lady on

482
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.480
who had some interactions with a bigfoot or a sasquatch,

483
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:28.680
and they seems like they became friends or whatever you

484
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.279
want to call it. They were talking to each other. Uh,

485
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:36.400
this thing told her it was an elude and he

486
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.279
had remember, yeah, he'd never heard that before, but I

487
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.079
think he like kept it in the back of his mind.

488
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.880
And then some time went on he talked to Gary

489
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.680
Wayne about it, and Gary Wayne knew was familiar with

490
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:54.240
the term and it is a child of Nephelim. Yeah,

491
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.240
goes way back into some old texts that word does.

492
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:03.839
And the way Bo says, it's like that was that

493
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.000
was like sparks. It's kind of like fireworks for him

494
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.079
because it's like, you know, he knew that this lady

495
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:15.279
wouldn't have known that word right right, And I've heard

496
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.839
that that she was. I don't even know that she

497
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.039
was pronouncing it properly or anything like that. She was

498
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.640
just repeating something that something told her. And it turns

499
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.599
out to be this kind of obscure even for Bigfoot

500
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.119
slash Nephelin researchers or whatever I'm called. Eliud is not

501
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.200
the is not day one of Bigfoot.

502
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.519
And well because if you look it up, if you

503
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.960
look it up, it doesn't really there isn't really a

504
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.079
good definition out there, like Google. The Google machine doesn't

505
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.039
give you the definition of eliud.

506
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:47.440
I think they do not.

507
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.559
Really they might now, but.

508
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.720
They didn't whenever he brought this out. They did not,

509
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.680
because I remember because I looked.

510
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.440
Right me too, and that's what I'm saying. So maybe

511
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.920
if you type it in now, but I do remember,

512
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.400
and it wasn't that the story too, where it had

513
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.039
told her that it's yeah, it was an lau, but

514
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.559
it was looking for salvation.

515
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:16.920
Yeah, some some sort of redemption because of.

516
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.880
The nephel and blood. I think you have a problem.

517
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:21.079
Maybe they took it down.

518
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:21.400
Man.

519
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.319
It was up a couple of weeks ago because I

520
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.319
had bo on and and I remembered the story and

521
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.079
I thought, you know, maybe we'll get into that. So

522
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.960
I looked it up and I typed in, EL, Now,

523
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:35.160
how do you think they spell that?

524
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:44.119
I think it's I spell it E l u e D.

525
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.640
Okay, I think that's it.

526
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.720
Or maybe it's e l e u D. Maybe that's

527
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.279
what it was eu D.

528
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:56.920
That sounds more like it.

529
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:57.200
EL.

530
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.680
So now it's it's this is crazy because now it's

531
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:03.599
not coming up for me.

532
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.200
Yeah, so I'm telling you I don't. I think I

533
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.640
looked at it and for every I think I also

534
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:17.079
looked at it for Google in every single ud hell

535
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:22.319
are they called AI bought the chat GPTs. I think

536
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.759
I looked in Gemini and GROC. I think I looked

537
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:26.400
in all of them.

538
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.319
And Google's weird like that, man, I'm telling you, especially

539
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.759
once you get into this, you know this hidden history

540
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.359
stuff that I love so much. Uh, I had a

541
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.319
weird Google experience when I first moved out to Tennessee.

542
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.599
I got out here in the Nashville area, and uh,

543
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.519
I don't know, I just had a weird thought one day.

544
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.759
I was just like, I'd like to know more about

545
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.400
the history here in this place, and like the Native

546
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.480
tribes and who was here before before it was Nashville.

547
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.960
And I remember I went to Google and I typed

548
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.759
that in like the Native American tribes in the Nashville

549
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.640
area or something like that. I reworded a couple of times,

550
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:13.759
and every time Google said this was probably twenty sixteen,

551
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:18.559
twenty seventeen. The Google search resorts told me that this

552
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:24.400
was an empty valley before Nashville became Nashville and was settled.

553
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.400
And they even had a picture that came up of

554
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.119
this guy, kind of a George Washington looking guy. He

555
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.720
was standing like this, like he's on the you know,

556
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.079
like he's like he's crossing the rubicon or something, and

557
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.359
he's pointing like this and he's looking out over this

558
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:48.319
empty valley of wilderness. They pulled that picture up and said, now,

559
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.000
the valley that Nashville's in was unsettled. It was an

560
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.839
empty Valley before. So now that's total bs, total bs.

561
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.559
And I always tell people like I, so wish I

562
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.440
would have taken a screenshot of that, because man, I

563
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.440
just it's you know, it's ingrained in my head. But

564
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.400
I wish I would have. I wish I would have

565
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.119
captured that because it's it's it's a total lie. It

566
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.559
goes back to everything that I'm trying to uncover here

567
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:23.000
and why you know, but come to find out, see

568
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.400
now now Google's changed. Now they'll pull up very generic

569
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.160
sort of bulletin points on you know, the Creek Indians

570
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.880
or whatever. Right they don't they won't fully give you anything,

571
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.440
but but they'll at least now they'll at least knowledge

572
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.319
that there was Native Americans here. But the truth behind

573
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:48.319
Nashville is way stranger than I think most people imagine.

574
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.319
And I don't claim to know the full truth, uh,

575
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.759
but I think it goes back to this this conversation

576
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.440
we've been having today about you know, the Sasquatch and

577
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:02.279
and all that. I think that just actually Tennessee and

578
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.079
this region we've been talking about today has has a

579
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.240
more of a Narnia like history for yeah, but.

580
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.640
A giant that's a great way to put it right.

581
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:19.960
There, Giants, sasquatch, little people, moon eyed people, they were

582
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.079
said to be. The Cherokee talked about these nocturnal creatures.

583
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.200
Now and that story has gotten kind of spun a

584
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.759
little bit. But in my copy of Myth of the

585
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.440
Cherokee by Mooney in the other room there he went

586
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.039
straight to the Cherokee, got a direct account of the

587
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.160
moon eyed people. They say they had black eyes because

588
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.319
they were they only came out at night. They were nocturnal.

589
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.200
Some some black eyed children stuff.

590
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:47.920
Yeah, yeah, they were like these little pill black eyed,

591
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.079
some sort of erase of humanoids. So like that's part

592
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:58.559
of this, right. I'm trying to think about how I

593
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:03.440
launched into this part. There's another aspect to Nashville that

594
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.160
I came across. I don't have the article in front

595
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.079
of me, but I have it. I do have it saved.

596
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.119
I was looking into something to do with the Civil War,

597
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:18.519
and I was looking in some old magazines and I

598
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.599
found this magazine. It's not in print anymore. It's called

599
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.079
AG's and the Intelligencer. I think the version I was

600
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.880
reading was out of Cincinnati or something like that. Don't

601
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.559
quote me on that, but they had an article in

602
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.239
there that caught my eye because it said Nashville So

603
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.880
and this was this was an article that was put

604
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.199
out about four or five years after the Civil War ended,

605
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.559
late eighteen hundreds. And this article goes on to talk

606
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:56.480
about this cave cavern tunnel kind of a thing that

607
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.679
they found here that went they said it went about

608
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:05.880
a mile underneath Nashville, and they were excavating it. And

609
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.599
the impression that I got is that this was something

610
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.000
that got uncovered sometime during the Civil War because there

611
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.079
was a heavy amount of troops here and I think

612
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.199
they found this hole in the ground and they started

613
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.960
utilizing it or it got blown open. I don't know

614
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.760
what happened, but anyway, after the Civil War they let

615
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.039
people come in and look at it, and I do

616
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:28.960
think it had been looted at that point, but they

617
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.400
were still talking about some of the weird stuff they're

618
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.599
finding in this tunnel. Now this is underneath Nashville, proper right,

619
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.079
and it talks about how they found a sarcophagus in there.

620
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:50.159
They found huge vases with weird Eastern style symbols on them.

621
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.440
They found an assortment of knives and swords that had

622
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.760
strange engravings on the handle. Basically, they didn't recognize this language.

623
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.360
These guys were looking at it and they couldn't place it.

624
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.480
They're like, it's not Egyptian, it's not Greek. They didn't

625
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.800
know what it was, right, something that dates back to

626
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.800
an earlier time. And they said that the tunnel goes

627
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:17.679
for a mile underneath Nashville and it ends somewhere beneath

628
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:25.400
Fort Neglie. Fort Neglie is a star fort. And you know,

629
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.840
I don't know how much you've looked in the star forks,

630
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.599
but like it seems like the star forks, especially the

631
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.920
ones over here in North America, date back to an

632
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:34.719
earlier era.

633
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.679
So I was like, for sure.

634
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:46.559
So, and in this article they're talking about how all

635
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.920
this stuff they're finding is leading them to believe and

636
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.639
just they actually made the blanket statement in this article

637
00:36:53.679 --> 00:37:00.400
that there was a mysterious race and an here and

638
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.280
it was a part of an ancient civilization. Now you

639
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.480
won't find any of this stuff in a history book.

640
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.880
I'm lucky enough that I found this article because and

641
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.480
it's kind of it's crazy. At the end of the

642
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.480
article they talk about how one of the guys who

643
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.119
was excavating. This was involved with like a local college,

644
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.320
and he was talking about how he was wanting to

645
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.239
do a full report on this and publish it. And

646
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:30.400
you know that never that never saw the light of day. Right, So,

647
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.559
but they say in the article there was somebody here,

648
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:41.880
an ancient civilization here in Nashville before before it became Nashville.

649
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.039
And and if it's anything like the rest of North America,

650
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.320
whoever it was probably predated the Native Americans as well,

651
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.719
because the Native Americans tell you that they didn't build

652
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.480
the mounds. Somebody came in before them, the mound builders.

653
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.320
This enigmatic race and the deep yeah, yeah, and the

654
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:11.159
deeper you go, the more you start running into giants. Yeah,

655
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:15.719
it's not crazy conspiracy theorists on the internet talking it is,

656
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.960
But they're not the originators of this giant talk. It's

657
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.760
the Native Americans themselves telling you there was a race

658
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.199
here before them, and many of them were giants. And

659
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.400
I know the bones, and I know that people don't

660
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.039
want to talk about it, but because it's nobody wants

661
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:34.000
to go there. But some of these giants were white.

662
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:41.119
And we're in such a such a highly charged there's

663
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:44.320
there's too much racism in the air right now. Everybody's

664
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.119
worried about, you know, being on the wrong side of that,

665
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.400
and I get that. But nobody wants to say that

666
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.079
there was a race of white giants that predated the

667
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.320
Native Americans because they don't want to be seen as racist.

668
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.880
But that's what the Native Americans say.

669
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.039
I don't think they were all right, but yeah, but

670
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:02.800
there are probably not one.

671
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:04.679
Well, yeah, if you go back.

672
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.719
Far enough, I think a lot of them talk about

673
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.840
red hair giants too. So you have those all over

674
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.079
the world, even even in South America.

675
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:19.239
Yeah, so it goes back to a bloodline. Bennett. Yeah,

676
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:21.760
I believe that. And like you know, I thought when

677
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.119
I came on today, I thought I was going to

678
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.679
get into the occult Nazi stuff. I think we may

679
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.400
have talked about that, and I'm glad, Like I like

680
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.199
the direction this is gone. You know, we could do

681
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:31.920
that some other time.

682
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.119
Oh, absolutely, but do another one.

683
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.000
So many stuff that I've found through studying Nazi occultism

684
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.360
is that they on all that airy and stuff. It

685
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.559
goes back to guys who believed in the net One.

686
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.039
There's a group of I call them the Shamans of

687
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.519
the Third Reich because a group of guys old occultists

688
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.920
from turn of the century Germany who nobody talks about

689
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.639
who inspired the Nazis. They all looked up to this

690
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.519
group of occultists like uh Jeorde, Vaughan Lynx, uh Lance

691
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:10.119
is another one, uh Carl Villaget Hoffenheimer. There's there's a

692
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.159
there's a lot of these guys. But anyways, they were

693
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:18.320
looking into the Nazis worked looking into the bloodlines. They

694
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.239
had a group called the Ona Nerve based Society. It

695
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.440
was like in a cult archaeologist society that then that

696
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.239
the Nazis had put together. They were going all around

697
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.119
the world. They were looking for they were looking for

698
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.840
the bloodlines. And Tibet they went to the lost city

699
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.000
of Lahasa, poked round in those records. They were measuring

700
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.559
people's faces. They were looking for this blodlight. They went

701
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:43.079
to Iran and Iraq as well. You know, and in

702
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.880
modern times we know Gilgamesh like he's one of these

703
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.679
god kings priest kings with the But here's what's interesting,

704
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.559
and I want to tie this in what you just

705
00:40:54.599 --> 00:41:00.639
said about Nephelin being in North America. Then he's also

706
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.000
went to the cannery Islands. That's this little group of islands.

707
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.920
Right here, right off coast of Africa.

708
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:11.960
Right off the coast of Africa. They were looking into

709
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.199
a race of people called the Guanches or the Gaunches.

710
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.119
They were said to be light skinned slash white Middle

711
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:28.679
Eastern people who were giants as well. They had been

712
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.920
pushed out of the Middle East. They they were they

713
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.400
were partially Canaanite and Amorites, you know. And if you

714
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.360
look in the bottle and you see yeah, you know,

715
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.480
Caleb and Caleb and Joshua pushed them out of the

716
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.199
Middle East and they moved up over the top of Africa.

717
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.480
When the Romans came in and conquered the top of Africa,

718
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:54.840
the Romans further pushed them to the what would this

719
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.679
be the the west coast of Africa. So they over history,

720
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.039
you see him getting pushed further and further. So they

721
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.880
finally they make it to the Canary Islands. There's nowhere

722
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:09.920
else to go but ocean. Yeah, I think they jumped

723
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.159
off from the Canary Islands, these Nephelin canaan I am Orites,

724
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.039
because there's a national or not. There's a natural uh

725
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:24.800
stream ocean current that flows from the Canary Islands, straight

726
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.440
to here, baby, straight to the Americas. All they had

727
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.679
to do, and I think they were seafaring to begin with.

728
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.039
I think they knew how to navigate oceans. But all

729
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:35.840
they would have had to do was get in a

730
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.119
boat and just let it bring the letter go. But

731
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:46.360
here's where it gets interesting. The Amorites named themselves after

732
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:57.599
their chief deity amaru Amaru. Sounds a lot like Amaruka

733
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:03.000
or America. Right, that's my theory on that.

734
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:05.480
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's a good one too.

735
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.400
But either way, they came here, yeah.

736
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:16.000
For sure, what was it here? Let me share something

737
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:16.760
with you real quick.

738
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.679
And one of the things I've been trying to do

739
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.559
while you're pulling that up is I'm trying to shine

740
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:24.920
a little bit more light on this.

741
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:26.800
Can we see that? Yeah?

742
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:32.199
I see that the Nazis interest in the Nephelin bloodlines.

743
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:38.079
So yeah, So what this is is a picture of

744
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.920
the cave systems in the US. The green mm hm.

745
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:49.159
And obviously you can see where you grew up, right,

746
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:54.960
it's just covered with green. Right. But I've been watching this, ah,

747
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.280
so if you look at like Bigfoot and all this,

748
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.360
what the mounds and all of it, right, all this

749
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:09.480
the giants and now a lot of the Bigfoot stuff.

750
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.480
I just interviewed the the guy who runs the Bigfoot

751
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:18.840
mapping project. Right if you've never heard of that, it's

752
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.719
freaking really cool. Very well too, yeah, I'm sure he does.

753
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.039
But the number one amount of sightings now are coming

754
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.119
out of Pennsylvania. MHM. And and Ohio is one of

755
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:40.440
the next sites. Right, well, all this stuff too is

756
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.320
And you bring up that there's these So I just

757
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:48.880
watched this uh documentary show whatever you want to call it.

758
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:54.400
It's called Hellier. Yeah, I've seen it, had the goblins

759
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:54.800
and stuff.

760
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.320
I've seen it twice. I loved it, well, I was

761
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.480
in it held my interest enough for oh.

762
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.400
Yeah, and I'm in it and I'm loving it. But

763
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:10.199
it just shows you how this whole region, even from

764
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.159
like Vermont, you know, even through parts of New York

765
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.119
all the way down, all this is connected. So you

766
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.159
brought up Gilga, you brought up so Nephlin desk squad

767
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.360
keeps talking about how there's something going on in these

768
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:31.199
caves in southern Indiana. But I find it funny how

769
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:37.239
it overlays with a lot of the you know, where

770
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.119
you have all these native stories as well.

771
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.360
Oh, it's all connected like that right there.

772
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.920
Though. We talk about caves, we talk about water, we

773
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.800
talk about all these like.

774
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:49.480
All the mounds are in Ohio.

775
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.880
Man, all the Gateway stuff, right, all the things.

776
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.760
So yeah, yeah, there's a you know, there's a connection

777
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:59.840
as what you said gateway, there's a connection between vortex

778
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:04.480
ortal sites and the mounds of you know, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

779
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.039
Uh that just to go back to something you said

780
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.360
a minute ago, you said, it seems like a lot

781
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.679
of this bigfoot sightings now the main hub of those

782
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.840
is in Ohio, Pitts Or Pennsylvania.

783
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:18.920
Right, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

784
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.039
That's where all the mounds are. That's where the majority

785
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.039
of the grounds.

786
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.039
Are, correct, a lot of them. I don't necessarily correlate

787
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:31.639
with the with the cave systems, but I sure think

788
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.519
that not that we know of correct, and I sure

789
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.559
think that there's a there's a possibility of you know,

790
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.800
underground who knows, man, whether it's like highways for.

791
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:52.239
Well, that's so I think that that's part probably what

792
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:56.519
originally this cave. This was probably a cave underneath Nashville

793
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.400
that these people had excavated and turned into some sort

794
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.000
of an underground yeah temple or something. I don't know.

795
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:07.199
They had sarcophagus down there, right, So I think it's

796
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.320
it was probably it may have been a repurposed cave,

797
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.719
because there's there's caves all underneath Nashville. There's there's famously

798
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:18.079
caves underneath Vanderbilt University. They had to block them up

799
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.159
so the college kids wouldn't go down there. But apparently

800
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:25.880
they're extensive. Here's the thing, we don't know how extensive

801
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.519
these cave. We don't know the end of the cave system.

802
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.119
Nobody's been able to say how long it goes.

803
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.480
No exactly. I mean, we know that they're there, right,

804
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.079
but they don't know how they connect. They don't know

805
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.119
how deep they go. They don't know we I said

806
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:42.920
they the proverbial they don't know.

807
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.280
Well, that goes back to the deep underground military basis too,

808
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.519
because I think that they've used it's kind of like Batman,

809
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.320
you know, he kind of built his back cave in

810
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.840
an actual cave. He took something that was already there ilary.

811
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:00.599
You know.

812
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.920
So yeah, it gets well, it gets you.

813
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.079
Know, there's there's the concept of the inner Earth and

814
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:13.440
I'm leaning towards YA as opposed to an A on that.

815
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:20.880
I think there might be. So this Narnia concept, right, giants, bigfoot,

816
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:26.920
little people, moon eyed people, et cetera. Especially the moon

817
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:32.400
eyed people, the latter there, they probably maybe came out

818
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.039
of the earth. There's it's weird.

819
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.599
Also the interdimensional stuff too, So it's like, you know.

820
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.400
Well, even Yale, Yale, you know, it was a Harvard.

821
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.400
Harvard recently put out a paper on the UFOs, on

822
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.880
UAPs or whatever they want to call them, and they're

823
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:53.280
they're throwing out the concept of of crypto terrestrials. Yes,

824
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.280
you know, I get red flags when when I see

825
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.760
Harvard talking about it. But at the same time, I

826
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.639
see crypto terrestrials coming out of the Native American legends

827
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:03.679
as well, So I do think there's something to it.

828
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.320
Timothy Alberino did a pretty good breakdown of the of

829
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:11.599
that article. I can't remember which podcast he did it on,

830
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:15.559
but it might have been his own, but he, uh,

831
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:17.320
he broke it down pretty good.

832
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:23.119
So well, I was looking at it like this when

833
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.239
when I see Harvard put out a UFO centric paper,

834
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:33.639
I see the current I see where the currents are

835
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.880
going yeah, Yeah, I sends up re flax, and I think,

836
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.599
you know, I know what's to follow. Once Harvard puts

837
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.840
it out, You're going to get d C is going

838
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:45.960
to start echoing what they say, Hollywood all, you know,

839
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.639
the the mainstream. Essentially, he's going to start echoing that

840
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.840
because you know, Harvard is in d C. They're part

841
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.559
of this East co East coast hub of power for

842
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:01.880
the Western world. Yes, whenever they put out a narrative

843
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.519
usually that's that's about to be you know, broadcasted.

844
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.480
Yeah, and it's like, oh, it's the you know Harvard

845
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:14.480
study states. Yes, and that's like, you know, that's the

846
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:18.920
word yeah. Basically for some of these folks.

847
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.440
You know, I told you, I think I mentioned I

848
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.760
went up in that guy's plane over this area of

849
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.159
North Carolina called Pilot Mountain. It's a very interesting looking mountain.

850
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:29.920
If anybody wants to google it, it's got it's like

851
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.119
a knob. It looks like a dome, like a natural dome,

852
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.159
and there's all kinds of native lore surrounding it. But

853
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:41.880
with the main lore centers around there being a tunnel

854
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:46.079
into inner Earth there that is sort of guarded and

855
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:51.840
inhabited by the little people. And there's a really interesting well,

856
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:53.840
I should probably say this. I think that many of

857
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.519
our cities used to be or have been cities for

858
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.320
a long time. I think places like Nashville, this has

859
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.119
been a city for thousands of years. We just built

860
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.239
on top of a preexisting ancient civilization. I think the

861
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:11.960
same goes for Asheville, North Carolina, as well, because the Cherokee,

862
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.760
where they had some sort of a city down there

863
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.440
off the French broad and right where Asheville is today.

864
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.079
The Cherokee probably moved into a pre existing city that

865
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.000
was there built by an older rights. That's my theory.

866
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.840
But anyway, one of the legends is that they were

867
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.920
in a time of famine, in a time of war,

868
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:35.920
in a time of heavy oppression, and one of their

869
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.639
shamans fasted for seven days and got in touch with

870
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:42.360
the little people at Pilot Mountain, and the little people

871
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:47.840
offered this tribe of Cherokee passageway to the underworld through

872
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.400
Pilot Mountain to where they would not be hungry anymore,

873
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.519
they wouldn't be oppressed anymore, and they wouldn't have to

874
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.039
worry about warring neighboring tribes anymore. And all the people

875
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.400
had to do was fast for seven days like the

876
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:04.239
shaman did, and they'd be granted passage. And I you know, metaphysic,

877
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.440
we're talking about a metaphysical thing. You're a very esoteric

878
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:13.239
concept of entering a gateway going into the inner earth.

879
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.960
And it's just so that's why I.

880
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.760
And with the fasted state.

881
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:22.679
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's there's a lot man, Yeah,

882
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.960
there's a lot of gateways to a lot of things.

883
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.840
But that's that's our this we're talking about our true history,

884
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:34.360
our true North American history here that has been offuscated,

885
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:38.400
been completely torn and stripped from us.

886
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:43.360
Yeah, agreed, I mean, look at look at Uh did

887
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.280
you ever read Graham Hancock's book?

888
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:47.639
I have it over there. I've read so I flipped

889
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:47.960
through it.

890
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.079
Yeah, I mean I didn't read. I don't really read everything.

891
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.480
Usually I listen to it. I key books that I reference,

892
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:01.480
but yeah, that's one of Yeah, this is.

893
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.719
The one I have here is this America before?

894
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:10.159
Yeah, America before. And that's pretty amazing. It's pretty I mean,

895
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:13.519
it's insightful, right, but I think it doesn't even tell

896
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:15.480
half the story.

897
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:17.320
It doesn't. And I have a lot of respect for

898
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:20.079
Graham Hancock, and this isn't a knock on him, but

899
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:21.800
you know, it says it here on the binding, it

900
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:28.519
says the key to Earth's lost civilization, right, and that's

901
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:29.559
what we're talking about here.

902
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.880
Well, I'm also convinced we I you know, I've never

903
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.079
really talked about a lot of this type of stuff,

904
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:43.480
but I'm pretty convinced that there was obviously an angelic

905
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:50.320
civilization here before man. Right, Right, there's a lot of

906
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.719
evidence for that, and there's a lot of evidence even

907
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.599
in the Bible that talks about it doesn't really state it.

908
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:03.159
It's just there's an illusion to it, right, And that

909
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:07.880
so much of these different places were probably built by

910
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.719
fallen angels or angels just in general. And we say angels.

911
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.159
I hate that word too. I don't hate it, it's

912
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.639
just the job title, what you mean. So it's like,

913
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.679
do we can we come up with another.

914
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.960
Like a celestial It's just a different.

915
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.639
Race of there as as. And I do subscribe to

916
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:34.599
a lot of Timothy Alberino's h theories right as they

917
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:38.079
are what you would call the elder race. They are,

918
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:40.639
they're like precursors to us.

919
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.239
They might be Eli, they might be the tear below

920
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:47.960
Eliud but yeah.

921
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:52.000
Right, or or maybe they were full blown of what

922
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:53.960
you would call and see this is the other part

923
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.000
of this thing.

924
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:55.679
I'm sorry.

925
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.079
Yeah, but but then you run into diferent translations with

926
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.239
Elohem two, so it's kind of hard. I try not to.

927
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:08.159
But well, what Heiser said about it, you know, it

928
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:12.239
was it's it's anything that's sometimes it's used as broad

929
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.840
as to sort of depict something that's not human.

930
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.519
Right, or anything from the spiritual realm. Yes, type of thing, right,

931
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.840
But I don't think that they were. I think that

932
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:30.000
they were physical entities on Earth at one point. That's that.

933
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:31.400
That's kind of what I think.

934
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.000
Well, I think that they had that ability to come

935
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.320
down and take physical form as well. I mean we

936
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.800
see that in the uh is it the Sodom and

937
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.360
Gomoor story, the precursor to that event. I think it

938
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.000
was two angels came in and.

939
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.280
Yes, yes, and I can't remember which book that was in.

940
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.440
They took human form. They come into the city. Lot

941
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.119
lets them in. He doesn't want to. He doesn't want

942
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.000
them to stay out in the courtyard of the city

943
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.239
or whatever, because he knows it'd be bad news for them.

944
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.599
But it talks about them sitting down and eating and

945
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:06.239
drinking with.

946
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:10.840
Yes, correct, had everybody in the city wanted to rape.

947
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:16.679
Them, so they were probably beautiful and and could eat

948
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:18.320
and drink. That means they took some sort of a

949
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:19.079
human form.

950
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:23.679
But they also knew I think that Gary Wayne or

951
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:26.639
I get it all mixed up now who was saying it,

952
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:34.079
but that they basically that area also was part of

953
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:39.800
the problem with creating Nephelin, and that they had had

954
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:46.760
relations with angels before there to create Nephelin, and so

955
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.239
they were kind of like, how do I describe it.

956
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:55.440
I guess I'm just conditioned as conditioned to be subservient

957
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.440
to it. Like they didn't have a choice anymore. It

958
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.320
was like when yeah, yeah, it was.

959
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.400
It was that that story good. That story we're still

960
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.119
talking about like the lot story, right, Yeah, that story

961
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:09.119
goes deep.

962
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:10.000
Yeah.

963
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:14.280
I love the esoteric Christian stuff because I think the

964
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:18.519
Sunday morning version of these stories just doesn't cut it. No,

965
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.840
there was something happening there with those people in that

966
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:26.960
city city that, like you said, it's like they wanted

967
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:32.000
to It's almost like they wanted to have children with

968
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:32.800
them or.

969
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.519
Yeah, no, it's like I look at it as like

970
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:36.679
a breeding colony.

971
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.280
Yeah, or they wanted to get some sort of a

972
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:40.440
power from them.

973
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.719
That because usually when people would have that was kind

974
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.639
of the reward, well at least you know for the

975
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:52.039
sons of the Sons or the daughters of men and

976
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:56.280
the sons of God. Initially that created the net one,

977
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.800
that was the that was the payoff as they got knowledge, right,

978
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.079
so who knows.

979
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:09.679
I've always been suspicious as well. That. So Cain kills

980
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:15.440
Abel and he gets banished from that Garden of Eden

981
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.880
area or whatever, he goes off and starts his own civilization, right,

982
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:24.039
how does he how does that happen? He had in

983
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:28.199
some versions it to me it reads like he went

984
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:34.199
and found another civilization and then pro created with them. Now,

985
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.239
my suspicion has been that maybe they weren't fully human.

986
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.199
That's why they're not mentioned alongside of Adam and Eve

987
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:45.599
because we are a separate creature or creation to whatever

988
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.760
Cain went. So that means that Cain maybe was the

989
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:53.000
first Genesis six type maybe scenario.

990
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.800
Maybe, Yeah, for sure, that's that's definitely one.

991
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.679
Maybe it's amazing, right, but he.

992
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.559
Also went or I think you know, he went and

993
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:05.519
found another I don't know if he found other people necessarily,

994
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:12.239
but definitely found a pre built place like a city

995
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:17.400
that already existed that maybe humans did not build right,

996
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:22.679
and then he inhabited that, and then who knows about

997
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.360
the genetic part of it. It could be that there were.

998
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.960
It just does because the bottom line is when when

999
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:33.800
when you start going there, you're what it is. It's

1000
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.840
counterintuitive to the way we live in the society. It's

1001
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:43.199
a cultural problem because us having or marrying like our

1002
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.599
sisters or our cousins or our whatever is front that

1003
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.880
is it's a no go. But back in those days

1004
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.920
it really wasn't it. It was kind of normal, especially

1005
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.639
when you live six seven hundred years. Yeah, you know

1006
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:06.000
what I mean, if you're a five hundred year old Noah, Yeah.

1007
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.599
Yeah, as Adam, you know what I mean, I do,

1008
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.039
as Adam and Eve continue to have kids, it's very possible.

1009
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.320
You know, we'll just fit this into the scenario that

1010
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.679
you just laid out. Three hundred years after Cain goes

1011
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:25.079
to this civilization. Uh, maybe his sister who joined up

1012
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.880
with and one of you know, maybe Adam somebody exactly.

1013
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.880
So that's that's a possibility. Now, I'm not totally sold

1014
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.719
on he he got with some half human hybrids and

1015
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:39.400
had kids. I'm not sold on that.

1016
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.079
I think there are some theories that talk about that.

1017
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.760
But what I do know is that he eventually has

1018
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.599
kids and he begins the line of Cain. And that's

1019
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.400
where things get really interesting because whether or not he

1020
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:56.400
he uh had intercourse with a with a with something

1021
01:00:56.519 --> 01:01:00.559
not human. Put that aside. This is a who grew

1022
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.039
up his dad was Adam. He had knowledge from the

1023
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:09.400
garden literally, and you know, when you talk about Sunday

1024
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.800
Sunday services missing things in the stories of the Bible,

1025
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.559
one of the things that they have completely missed is

1026
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:21.079
the alchemical, esoteric. Dare I say accult elements of the

1027
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:25.199
knowledge that Adam was given, we would we would look

1028
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.800
on that today as a cult knowledge. I think I

1029
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.719
think he was given just all kinds of of dense

1030
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:36.639
dinse dnse, knowledge of the cosmos and mathematics, language, just

1031
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:41.199
anything you could think of, advanced technologies, how to do things,

1032
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.480
how to maybe levitate stars. You know, you can keep

1033
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.599
going and going going. Kan whatever he gleaned, Kane had that,

1034
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.320
and Caine starts the line of Caine, and you start

1035
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.519
to see some very interesting stuff come out of the

1036
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:57.679
line of Kane. You see the bad Enoch, right, you know,

1037
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.880
there's two Enochs. I just called him bad Enoch because

1038
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:03.800
good Enoch being the guy who read the book v Noog. Anyway,

1039
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:09.480
but you see Lamech. Lame's part of the line of Kine.

1040
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.360
Lamech has I think four kids. He's got tubal Cane, Jubilcane,

1041
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:16.400
another guy, and then Nama.

1042
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:18.559
Yeah.

1043
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.320
Those kids were said to have been sort of like

1044
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:29.239
keepers of the mysteries. They were whatever Caine gleaned back

1045
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.480
in the day was passed down through this line of Caine,

1046
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:36.519
through Enoch, through Lomech, and these kids had this I

1047
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:40.159
think at this point it had become bastardized, got a

1048
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.239
garden knowledge. Yeah, I think they had. I think they

1049
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.320
had taken this stuff and turned it into sort of

1050
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.199
like what we consider witchcraft today.

1051
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:48.800
Yeah, definitely.

1052
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:53.159
And I don't know, like you know, I talked to

1053
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.119
you before we hit record. We were talking about the

1054
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:57.039
Freemasons a little bit. I don't know how deep you

1055
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:00.000
want to go into that, but you seem to be

1056
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.320
somewhat knowledgeable on some of that and what I would

1057
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:07.400
ask you is, did you have you ever come across

1058
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:09.639
the concept of the nine vaults?

1059
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:16.239
No, I mean not that specifically, lots of stuff of nine,

1060
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:18.719
but not necessarily nine vaults.

1061
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:23.559
So if you kind of look up nine vaults. Nine

1062
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:29.159
vaults is a very old Freemason legend on this group

1063
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:34.880
of kids Tuplicane, Gubilcane, Nama and where they stored the

1064
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.079
knowledge that they had before the flood. And the legend

1065
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:45.039
goes is that somehow they caught wind that God was

1066
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:48.199
about to wipe the flood or you know, destroy the

1067
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.519
earth with the flood, and so they took all their

1068
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:56.400
knowledge and put it into some sort of records, whether

1069
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.760
that was on a test stone tablet. Yeah, they sealed it.

1070
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:02.719
In a.

1071
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:06.760
They sealed it in a in a room beneath the

1072
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:12.679
Great Pyramids because Enoch, right, their great grandfather or whatever

1073
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.000
he would be at this point, built the Pyramids with

1074
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:20.119
the knowledge from Cain. So they stored this knowledge in

1075
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:25.599
like an air type place underneath the pyramids so it

1076
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:29.159
would still be there for their hopefully their their lasting

1077
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.760
you know, bloodline, to have access to after the flood.

1078
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:37.519
And that's that's buried in some of the deepest darkest

1079
01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:43.119
corners of the Freemason's own, uh legacy story for sure.

1080
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.960
But I I see it as probably being true, not

1081
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.320
because the Freemasons say it. I just think the Freemason

1082
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.920
story just happens to back up this story already.

1083
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:56.159
I mean, they already know that a cavity exists under

1084
01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:01.039
the Sphinx Bingo. They know that for sure, but I

1085
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.320
don't think. I don't know if it's ever been opened.

1086
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.119
They say it hasn't, but who knows, and they won't

1087
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:08.599
let anyone open it, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

1088
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:10.760
but all the crap that just went on with the Pyramids,

1089
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.239
who knows.

1090
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:14.159
So I'm going to see how that plays out. I'm

1091
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.559
very interested in that. I mean, there's.

1092
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:19.360
You know, I.

1093
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.039
Know, you got another interview.

1094
01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:27.159
Coming, Yeah, he's I'm waiting for okay. Yeah.

1095
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:30.880
So unfortunately, well that's okay, you know, I'll just wrap

1096
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.119
up that story with this. Yeah, just so we could

1097
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.599
put a lid on it. I did come across so,

1098
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.239
you know, going back to our talk about the giants

1099
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:44.000
and stuff like that, this information has been found by

1100
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:47.599
people and you know, groups, institutions come in. We know

1101
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.880
who they are, and they sort of they sort of

1102
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.159
cover up the stuff. Well, there's a group of archaeologists

1103
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.880
that were associated with the Smithsonian who have kind of

1104
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.719
been their legacy has kind of been swept up. They've

1105
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.519
been kept quiet. And and there's one guy in particular

1106
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.519
who was in the twenties was doing excavations on the

1107
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.760
south wall of the Great Pyramid and he found a

1108
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.719
cavern and they found a hall of records in there

1109
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.159
and and just like the just like the two bul

1110
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:24.400
Kane Nama myth goes, they found something and in the

1111
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:29.440
records it talked about how the pyramids were created and built,

1112
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.920
and it talks about how they were built by a

1113
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:36.320
group of Atlanteans.

1114
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:37.400
Yeah.

1115
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.440
Uh, and so that's and that fits into this for

1116
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:44.639
me too, because I think that whatever that civilization came

1117
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:49.119
started was probably Atlantis probably where we get those myths from,

1118
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.480
probably or he started in Atlantis. Like, but there's this

1119
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.360
guy who found it in the twenties and the British

1120
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.800
government was was over on one shoulder and the Egyptian

1121
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:01.039
government was on the other and they I'll put the

1122
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:03.280
cabage on it. They're like, we're not releasing this because

1123
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:04.519
for sure handle it or whatever.

1124
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.960
So there's yeah, that's a whole nother episode, the Atlanta stuff.

1125
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.960
So yeah, so again, thank you so much for coming on,

1126
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.800
and I'm sorry I've got to cut this a little short,

1127
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.400
but tell everyone where we can find you. Yeah.

1128
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.760
Absolutely again, great, great talking to you today. I really

1129
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:25.480
liked for that win.

1130
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:26.719
It was that was cool.

1131
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:29.920
I know we could probably talk for hours. But yes,

1132
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:34.119
I am Tim Constantine. My show is the Sixth Century Podcast.

1133
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:39.880
I'm on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and Patreon, and check out

1134
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.159
my Instagram because I put a lot of content up

1135
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.039
that it's very close to related to what we talked

1136
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.239
about today, and even like we didn't go into the Nazis,

1137
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:50.960
but I have a lot of reels up where I'm

1138
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:52.960
talking about Nazis and stuff like that. If you heard

1139
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.400
anything today that interest you, check out my instagram too.

1140
01:07:55.639 --> 01:08:00.480
Awesome Again, man, thanks for coming on, and uh, we'll

1141
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.880
do it again soon because we could probably talk. We

1142
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:05.239
could probably ten shows.

1143
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:06.679
So that sounds good.

1144
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.079
Yeah. I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared.

1145
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:15.119
Hold me hostage and they don't fight fair, Who're gonna

1146
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:15.639
pray for me?

1147
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:16.960
And white brow my tears?

1148
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.760
Who's gonna save me? If you're not right here? Move?

1149
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.640
This darkness and make my sight clear. Take me your

1150
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.600
way because I don't like her. Go stop my past day.

1151
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.159
Feel in the night are wake me up. I'm trapped

1152
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:49.960
in my nightmass, You trapped in my nightmas, trowling, trowling.

1153
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.000
I mouth the deep in apparition somebut my demons, all

1154
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:55.840
my thoughts are come, making.

1155
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:59.920
Treason all alone. I'm gonna hear me screaming matterfest. They

1156
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.560
ships of my face, regrets that stretched out for light years.

1157
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:05.920
You can almost touch the light on its right there,

1158
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.920
body free by tract in my nightmare. I don't let

1159
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:14.920
me ja our life of fad. All my life is faith,

1160
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.479
All my life is face, and that fat I don't

1161
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:24.840
let miss. My life is facing. All my life is fading.

1162
01:09:35.479 --> 01:10:12.520
We trapped in my nightma, like a gol