March 28, 2026

The Mysteries of Cryptids: Genoskwa, Wendigo, and Bigfoot Variants

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The Mysteries of Cryptids: Genoskwa, Wendigo, and Bigfoot Variants
The Mysteries of Cryptids: Genoskwa, Wendigo, and Bigfoot Variants
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The Mysteries of Cryptids: Genoskwa, Wendigo, and Bigfoot Variants Discover the eerie legends, behaviors, and encounters surrounding the Genoskwa, Wendigo, and other cryptids in this episode. We explore their origins, physical traits, habitat, and the terrifying stories from regions like New York and Canada—unveiling the mysteries of these elusive creatures. In this episode: The legend of the Genoskwa: a stone-covered, aggressive mountain giant Comparing behaviors: elusive Sasquatch versus territorial Genoskwa The connection between Wendigo and other cursed entities in Native American myth Notable sightings: the Canon Dagua track and the Moose River Plains encounter Theories on cryptid intelligence: signs of manipulation and possible DNA evidence The possible ties between these cryptids and biblical or Nephilim origins How encounters with these creatures often involve strange odors and physical evidence The significance of offering gifts to establish communication or appeasement

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So described as huge, hulking and often coated and hardened mud, clay,

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or even stone, giving rise to the term stone giants.

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Not just a forest dweller. These beings are said to

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abduct and consume humans, and they lived in caves in

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the deepest wilderness. In Iroquois myth, they're more than animals.

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They're dark spirits and physical form, representing chaos and danger

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to peaceful tribal life, and some legends suggest they once

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were men cursed or transformed by evil spirits.

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Well today and broadcasting seeds and we're back.

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Jenascua. First time I ever heard about this is when

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I was doing a report like in college on the Iroquois,

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which is the local well the local Indian confederation here

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in the area that we live in, right, yep, Yes,

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everywhere from Canada, I mean even into Canada all the

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way down you know, basically almost all of New York. Yeah,

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and parts of even Pennsylvania and whatnot. I think part

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of their territory yep. But either way, this is a

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legend that goes back to them. Now there's other tribes

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I think farther north too, that have like similar type things, right,

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the origins yep.

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They're all very similar in the sense that like structure biology,

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but I don't. But the stories change kind of, I guess,

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depending on where you go, because some places they say

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they don't have that aggressive tendency or nature, and then

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in some places they say they're you know, tearing people's

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heads off.

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Yeah, yeah, that was their way. That's literally their preferred way.

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Of just twisting their heads off.

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So described as huge, hulking and often coated and hardened

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mud clay, or even stone, giving rise to the term

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stone giants, not just the forestwiler. These beings are said

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to abduct and consume humans, and they lived in caves

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in the deepest wilderness and Iroquois myth they're more than animals.

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They're dark spirits and physical form, representing chaos and danger

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to peaceful tribal life, and some legends suggest they want

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where men cursed or transformed by evil spirits. Now, I

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did a little research in that it seems like very

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correlative with like the when to go.

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Yeah yeah, but but.

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I'm sorry, the when to go is so did by

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by uh modern culture. Yeah, yeah, it takes on, it

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takes on this whole nother thing. I mean, the other

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thing too, is the tribal origins are different because when

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it goes are uh like algonk Win, the o g

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Bwai and the Kree. But there's also tales of the

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when to go from out west, So I don't know

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what to believe with that, but yeah, and so loosely translated,

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when to go means the evil spirit that devout or

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is mankind done a lot? Like you know, yeah, yeah,

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but I think when you talk about the appearance now

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they talk about like a when to go is more

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like an emaciated corpse. Yeah, yeah, not a big difference

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between eight to ten foot tall, massive muscular you know, yeah,

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covered covered in hardened mud bark and you know, yeah

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type of thing. So it's like, I don't know, I

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don't know what to think, right.

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I don't either, man, This one's I mean, the reality is,

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if you think about it, with most animal species, there's

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variations when it goes when you go from like in

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canines for instance, look at the variation in canines. I

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know we've breeding them out as humans, but the reality

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is there is a variation even in the wild. So

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why wouldn't that be the same with something like this?

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Yeah, for sure, I mean just thinking logically.

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Yeah, so different traits though, like behavior wise between gen

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Osco and Sasquatch, right, yes.

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Yeah, we've not getting curious.

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We've got the behavioral divide. I guess you would call

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it right, and you've got shoot, I just lost it, dude,

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what what all?

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Right?

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Behavior Sasquatch tends to avoid contact and they're elusive, right well,

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gen Osco was reported is aggressive and territorial. Yeah, held

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large bleaner for the bigfoot Sasquatch. Jen Oscar's massive, muscular

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and has like the stone like armor, which just sounds

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like really matt at for like they literally the stories

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are that they met there for and like basically two

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it was to stop arrows. Yep, they later on they

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found that I guess it wouldn't stop bullets. That's the

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stories I've read so far.

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Yep.

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Like they uh, as soon as flint lock pistols and

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rifles started showing up, they started kind of withering away

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or at least going into hiding.

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Yeah, right, became way more elusive, elusive, illusory, lusory, hometed, vocalization, howls, knox,

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and mimicry for sasquatch, but for the god why do

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I keep forgetting how to say it? Genosqua. I think

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that low growls and terrifying shrieks habitat forest mountains, remote

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areas for sasquatch, deep caves, cliff side forests, right yep.

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And then temperament is curious and neutral and predatory and dangerous.

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So I don't like that.

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Yeah, I don't either. Uh So, Upstate New York, parts

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of the ad around ACKs and Alleghany regions have multiple

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retorts of unusually aggressive sasquatch that throw rocks, break trees,

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and charge at witnesses. Sounds familiar, yeo, yeah, just a

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little bit. Sounds kind of like what happened in your backyard. Yeah,

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just a little The other thing, that's a little it

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sounds like what happened to me and both of my

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encounters as well. Yeah, here's the other kicker, the odor. Yeah,

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you don't hear about the odor in all sasquatch sightings

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and or confrontations. And I had said, I wonder if

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it's a like a reaction to being startled or being

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you know, like an aggred, like as a skunk would, right, Okay,

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I've said that in past episodes of Maybe Not this

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podcast but other podcasts. But I think I did say

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in this podcast and I would not doubt and it's

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a cross between skunk and dcom Yeah, yep right, And

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that's exactly what it smells like.

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That's a real identifiable stench.

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Oh for And so they've got there's so let me

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read one of these.

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Okay.

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So the Bark and Stoneman of Canandagua.

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Is in Canandagua, Okay.

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In the winter of eighteen thirty eight, near the southern

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southern shores of Canandagua Lake, in which in what is

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western New York's Finger Lake region, a local fur trapper

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named Elias T. Henshaw was reported missing under strained circumstances.

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Henshaw was well known to the area and with a

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reputation for venturing deep into the hardwood forest alone for

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weeks at a time, usually emerging with pelts and stories

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of black bears and coyotes. But that winter he didn't return.

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A small search farready found his camp weeks later, totally

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undisturbed but eerie. His traps were untouched, his firepit could

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cold but carefully stacked, and a half skinned rabbit hung

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frozen in the trees. The only oddity enormous footprints in

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the snow leading away from the camp in the dense

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thicket that hugged the lakeside cliffs. These tracks, according to

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the journal of the local sheriff's deputy named Thomas Wilmer,

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measured nearly eighteen inches long and were deep enough to

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suggest something with stone or iron in its feet. So

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funny the way that they talk and wrote. Yeah, so

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the local had Nashone, which is the iroquois by these

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were Senecas. Seneca elders told the search party to stop looking.

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They warned them that Henshaw had likely been taken by

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the genos.

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Genaska.

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I might be wrong, by the Genosca. That's how it's spelled, Okay.

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A stone cloaked giant of the old woods, said to

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roll in mud and crushed bark until hardened like armor,

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blending into trees and cliffs. It's also camouflage. Yeah, think

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about it. Yeah, a protector. I mean think about that.

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Also in that area in the Fingerlakes, like down by,

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like Skinny Atlas Lake, And I mean you've been down there, dude,

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You've you've hiked in like like film or glen in

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places like that where they have that crushed stone. Yeah,

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that would totally. If they rolled in mud and then

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rolled in that, it would completely blend in, completely blend in.

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Plus it would harden like armor.

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Yeah, dude, and I'm not for nothing like even certain round.

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Aren't you going to penetrate that?

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Yeah? So blending into trees and cliffs a protector of

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sacred ground or a hunter of men who trespassed too far.

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Wilmer later wrote that one of the elders pointed toward

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the cliff and said, he walks with the bark of

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the pines and the blood of the stone. He is

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not a beast. He is the mountain's anger. Nobody was

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ever found. Locals say that an especially cold, quiet nights

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in near Canandagua, you can still hear rock scraping against

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rock in the woods, and sometimes a single deep exhale

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that rattles the branches.

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Mhm.

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I got a friend in Canadigua. Maybe you got to

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check it out.

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Yeah, maybe right. I used to work in Canadigua actually

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at the v A hospital there.

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Very nice, very well. So.

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Aggression in the Adirondacks is another story. When sasquatch turns violent, well,

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most people picture Sasquatch as shy, elusive, and almost benevolent.

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There's another category of reports, far less romantic and a

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lot more terrifying, especially across upstate New York, the Adirontic

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Willness Wilderness and the Allegheny Plateau. These aren't the classic

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blurry in the distance encounters. They're up close, unnerving, and

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often hostile, and for some researchers, the violent behavior might

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point to something other than your run of the mill Bigfoot,

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perhaps even the perhaps, uh Genosca.

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You get it one day, man, You've said it too

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many times the other way?

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So what are you saying? Genosca, Genosco?

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Yeah, I think Genosca GENOSCOA.

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There it is the conditioning mind.

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The serpent tishan or blunt force trauma, and nobody's here

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to smack me. So yeah. An airandeck rock thrower nineteen

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ninety seven, Moose River Plains. Dude, I know that's not

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that far off from now Old Forge, Right now, it's

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not a group of ikers near the Moose River Plains

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Recreation Area reported being harassed for over two nights by

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what they initially thought were aggressive campers large rocks too

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big to be thrown by a human.

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See, I mean, come on, bro, Yeah, yeah, they lobbed.

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They were lobbed into their campsite from the tree line.

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These described guttural vocalizations snapping branches and sometimes pacing just

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beyond their firelight. Sounds really familiar to me, bro.

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Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit.

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Go check out episode one and two. Yeah, right, right

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from the start. On the second night, a tree was

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pushed down. There you go, another tree, and one of

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them saw a shadow with shoulders wider than a refrigerator

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dart between trunks. The DC, which is the Department of

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Environmental Conservation, told them it was likely a bear buff

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charging throwing rocks, exactly right. But none of them bought it.

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That.

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So that's that one. That's crazy right. That's nineteen ninety seven.

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Now we jumped forward to two thousand and one. The

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Chestnut Redge Growler Alleghany Plateau two thousand and one and

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the Chestnut Redge area, which stretches between stretches into both

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Pennsylvania and western New York. There have been decades of

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reports of something far more aggressive than typical bigfoot sightings.

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I need to talk to Paul about this.

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Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah, absolutely.

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We're talking about our friend Paul Boggden. In two thousand

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and one, a bow hunter named Rob s was near Salamanca,

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New York, when he witnessed a figure hearing bark from

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a tree and letting out a low frequency war that

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he said he felt in his chest sounds familiar to.

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When he tried to retreat, the creature charged, stopping only

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after Rob tripped and fired an arrow into the ground.

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He decided as it as an armor plate. He described

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it as armor plated in dried mud, with a matted

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hair and a face that looked almost like a cracked mask. Hm.

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Wow.

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Another one Split Rock wild Way encounter. This was twenty

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twelve in the Easternadirondacks. A wildlife surveyor doing acoustic monitoring

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near the Split Rock wild Way, a protected corridor in

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the Eastern Adirondacks, and I think it's close over by

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Lake Champlain reported finding trees twisted at six feet high

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at like scrape marks and a large pine logs impaled

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into the soft ground vertically. Wow. Something with a no

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clear natural explanation. Two nights later, his recording equipment picked

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up tree knocks, stone on stone sounds and what one

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audio analyst described as a chest thump followed by a

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deep howl far lower than any known North American man

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used to go back out alone after that.

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Yeah, I don't blame them, so.

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Not just Sasquatch. Maybe something worse right. These stories have

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consistent traits extreme strength, stone throwing behavior. Now, like I've

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had stones thrown, but they were stones, not rocks not

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And here's the big one, bluff charges are full on aggression.

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Yeah, because it's it's it's too I mean, I would

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imagine it's to scare.

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Maybe it's worried about you, you know what I mean.

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In my in my case, I had a blazing bonfire going.

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Maybe it got scared of that.

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And I don't know, I don't know environmental manipulation like

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felled trees or or restructured terrain. Yeah, classic Sasquatch, I

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mean maybe. Yeah, But the intensity, combined with the stone

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covered descriptions and smelehactical harassment behavior that and like smell

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and whatnot lean more into the Jenosqua. Look at that

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territory in the line, you know, I mean, obviously in

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the woods, the line between the legend and reality gets

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blurry anyway. Yeah, right. Yeah, but whatever it is, it

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doesn't want you there, no, absolutely not, and it knows

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how to show it. Yeah, dude, So.

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You know you almost wish you didn't learn about these

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things because my idea of it before was like, could

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be nothing, you know, like not a or curious or something.

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But dude, what what am I even supposed to do

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about that?

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Yeah?

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I know, you know how I've kind of I saw

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good analogy. It's like they're like the polar Bears of

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the bigfoot world, right, and like Sasquatch are like the

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black Bears. Yeah. And then you've got the intermediaries like

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the Gugway, which is more like the baboon faced yep yep,

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which are also supposedly pretty aggressive, right, Like what, dude,

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what maybe dog man type thing?

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Yeah?

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All right, so here, I've been doing a lot of

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as usual research, but we just on on our other podcasts,

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the Broadcasting Seeds. I just published a interview with Oh.

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My god, I can remember you're losing it again. I'm

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just tired, bro, That's all right, I get that with Jeez,

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the guy with a name, Guy with a name, and

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we're talking about stuff.

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Yeah nice, Oh holy crap. Oh Adam Ferris. And so

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he wrote a book called Five Stones, and it's not

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exactly a book, it's more like a graphic novel, right,

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But either way, this guy's done his uh research, right,

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But he's talking about lion We've been talking about like

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lion faced men. We've been talking about dog men.

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Ye and uh, you know one without the other bout

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of mine.

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Is this man and and this is like biblical stuff.

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But then so so I think I started saying this

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at the beginning of this episode, but this like the

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Gugway and the Genoscua, right Genosca.

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Yes.

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I heard on a recent La Marzouli uh episode, okay,

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and there was a guy that was talking about different

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you know, they were basically talking about that bigfoot l okay.

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And I'm starting to think this more and more every

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day because remember we've also talked about this eliud. The

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woman who was on that other podcast saying that that

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that it told her it was an laud and what

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an eli youd is is the offspring of an fhil. Yes,

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and and the DNA testing that's been done points that

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direction as well.

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Yeah, what do you make of that?

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I see, I can't I can't just take it face

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value that people are like, oh, the DNA is yeah

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whatever because of Melbourne catch them in the way that

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she handled it, and this that the other thing. I've

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read the research and it seems pretty legit to me.

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But who the who am I Yeah, but at the

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end of the day, I mean, I'm not dumb. No,

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And I also know that if this type of information

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were to get out, it's not the type of information

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that they.

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Want out, Yes for sure, you know, yeah, yeah, I

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agree with you, man, So I.

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Just keep leaning more towards I mean, it's not even

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wu Actually no, it's not. It's not like you know,

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people are like, oh that you know, I'm like, no,

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because they're it's biblical man.

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At this point.

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I mean, and one of the guys that was really

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saying this and had been saying it for years was

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Stoh Carpenter, Okay, And at the end of the day,

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I think they took him out, man, which is kind

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of scary.

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Yeah, well, it's.

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The reality is like, that's I think what people's biggest

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fear is is that they don't want people don't talk

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about anything like this because they're worried about someone showing

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up and getting rid of them, maybe yeah, But I

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mean the reality is today with the amount of social

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media out and all these platforms all over the place,

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like I feel like enough people are talking about it,

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where that's not really the case anymore. I think the

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reality is it's hard not to believe in these things,

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especially when you have these experiences and you have zero explanation.

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It makes no sense. The damage is ridiculous. Then, like,

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I don't know anything that can push trees down like that. No,

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but if again, like it sounded like an explosion happened

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in my woods and trees just started flying, it was unbelievable. Dude,

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I couldn't believe what I and I really up until

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that point, I wouldn't even as second guest, I would

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have never thought of sasquatch anything like that. Then that happened,

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same thing in my the same thing with like paranormal activity.

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Uh.

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I didn't believe in it until I experienced it. And

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what so I'm telling you, I am a I gotta

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see it to believe the type of thing, uh, type

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of person I'm at to say. So to have something

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like that happen and not be able to see that

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drove me nuts.

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Dude. Yeah, nuts.

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So I can't sleepless nights after that. So I couldn't

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believe what just happened.

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And and I had my wife with me to back

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me up and say, I'm not nuts.

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You know, she has no idea either. And it was, dude,

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I don't. I didn't.

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I didn't smell anything I want. But I was also upwind,

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so if anything, it had been smelling me, yeah right,

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And the fire and the fire and the fire, and

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I wasn't. I wasn't drinking or anything. Man, I was

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just hanging out by the fire with my wife.

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It's unbelievable.

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And and the damage to the tree and the flattened

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earth all behind the fence, because in the summer that's

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all grown in.

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Oh yeah, I mean I've seen it, and yeah it

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was flat. Yeah, something had just totally trampled it all down.

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Yeah.

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And again, I know what the deer bed down areas

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look like. Doesn't look like that. It doesn't look like

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thrashed woods, do you know what I mean?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, Yeah, it was dude, I have no idea. Yeah,

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I think I think we're just talking about And it's

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not even that it's a different it's just a different type.

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Maybe you know. I. I mean, there's all kinds of

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legends about eating people and tearing their heads off and

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all that, and it's like, you know, why do we

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really need to go into that.

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I mean, and I'm no threat man, So I think

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if I pose the threat, I don't do anything. I

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just hang out in the woods. I don't do anything.

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I don't like tear the woods up or anything like that.

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I don't disturb it.

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Really. I love nature for how it is. So I

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don't know. I don't know. Maybe I did something.

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Yeah, so me tell everyone about your baseball bat.

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Oh yeah, So.

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I got a nice gotten Knockers baseball bat while we

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were out in the A and F.

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And I brought it home.

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So as I'm pulling in the driver once I pulled

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in the driveway, got out of the vehicle, got I

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pulled the bat out, and I'm showing my wife, just

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you know, because I'm a kid with toys, I'm sewing

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in this thing. You're playing with your Knockers, Yeah, exactly,

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I'm playing with my actors.

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Man, I'm a kid. What can I say.

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I'm swinging this thing around and then I'm telling her,

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like telling her about it where where I got it.

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Why there's a.

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Chip out of the handle and like all that stuff

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and a blim like that. But I ended up like

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kind of banging it around to and I smacked it

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on a couple of pieces of wood and then walked

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inside the next day. And this is so I got

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home during broad daylight. So I walk and it was

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a bright sunny day and walking in and I see

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trash like on the side of the on the side

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because I live on somewhat of a main road, and

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people just either it's falling out of their truck or like,

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you know, their assholes and their assholes and they yeah,

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and they.

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See an open field and they're like, oh, fuck this guy.

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So regardless, I go to I go inside the next

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day and I forgot to go back out.

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I was tired. We were camping for the weekend. I

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was tired. I wanted to go inside and sleep.

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The next day, I go to get out and I

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go to grab all that trash, and there's a baseball

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right next to where the trash is, Like I kind

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of an old crusty ass look in baseball and I

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and I and I again coincidence, maybe right in front

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of my door. Literally, I shot from my door. I

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opened the door, I saw the baseball, and I was like, what.

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Never, I'm convinced that we need to get we need

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to get on it with like the gifting.

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Yeah thing, yeah.

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The gifting rock, the gifting tree, the gifting stump, whatever

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they want to do.

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I throw fruits and vegetables over it.

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So whenever they're like almost going like going bad and stuff, yeah,

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I'll toss Instead of just throwing them out, I just

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throw them out into the woods because there's deer there's right, I.

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Have a lot of wildlife.

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Yeah, yeah, so I just throw it out in the

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woods so they can eat it. And most of the

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time it's gone by the morning. So everything usually.

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Uh.

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And I don't know, maybe I have been doing that unwittingly.

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Yeah maybe. I mean I'm not talking about food. I'm

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talking about.

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Uh, things like a base things like a baseball, or

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like like rocks like.

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Shiny you know, shiny stones like this or something. Okay,

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things that are distinct.

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Yeah, but if we put a camera on it, do

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you think.

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Oh I and I don't even really want to put

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a camera on it. I just want to see what

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disappears and what shows up because people have done things

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where they'll put out like these, they'll put out tools,

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they'll put out things, and they'll go away and then

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they'll come.

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Back like a month later. Yeah, like they'll show up

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a month later, like the.

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The things that were taken or new things will show up.

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That's a telltale in my opinion. That's a way that

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we could tell, one way or another that something intelligence

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is there. Something is there because a deer is not

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doing that, a bearer is not doing that, a chipmunk

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is not doing that. A freaking squirrel is not doing

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that either. Maybe maybe, I mean.

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If you had the right thing, maybe maybe a crow.

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But also a crow is not carrying a wrench away.

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Yeah they're not.

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No, I'm sorry, No, not a five pound wrench hard, not.

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Even like a one pound wrench.

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Even we're just a six pounder, ten pounder. If we

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have to, I don't you know what I mean. I'm

468
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just saying, there's there's things. Yeah, and I think we

469
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.319
should put heavy ship too, just to really make sure.

470
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.599
You know what I mean, right, Absolutely, So that's gotta

471
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.200
I think that's something that needs to happen, should we

472
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:19.880
We don't have to go all the way out to

473
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.240
do that. We can go, like, but I think we

474
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.319
should do it at some distance away from the house

475
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.440
and we'll find a spot. Jesus, we have bankers.

476
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.759
Should we put a camera at distance?

477
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:37.640
I don't know. I guess we'll see. Let's see what happens. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.319
so maybe we should do that soon.

479
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.359
Maybe maybe we should go have a fire out there

480
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.480
or do some recording something.

481
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:55.079
Yeah for sure. Yeah. Man. So this is just the

482
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.400
reason I wanted to talk about this is because of

483
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.440
our experiences that we've had. The experience that you fad

484
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:05.759
but even with me and Illinois and Alaska. Yeah, that's

485
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.800
that's what this was. That type of charged I was

486
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.400
or I scared the shit out of something and or whatever.

487
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.239
But they weren't backing down. It wasn't trying to avoid me.

488
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.719
It was like, hello, which you guys are I know

489
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.400
what they ran into? You know, person seeing that for

490
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.400
the most part, unless there's some other trained unit or.

491
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.719
Well, some people are stupid.

492
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:38.400
But obviously wasn't a person out in the middle of

493
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.280
Alaskan wilderness.

494
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.880
No, no, no, negative, And it wasn't a bear.

495
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.840
And the smell in Illinois, that's another.

496
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.119
Right, it was identical to the melon Alaska too. Yeah,

497
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:56.199
and again if we're talking about a different subspecies or

498
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.199
a just a big well they always talk about people

499
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.920
talk about this that, you know, as the farther north

500
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:08.079
you go, the bigger things get in. The Jenasqua is

501
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:09.760
substantially larger than the.

502
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.719
Yeah, yeah, per reports.

503
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.599
So I mean we're talking eight to eleven feet, you know.

504
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.679
Yeah, so pretty wild.

505
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.239
I don't know what to think, man, you know, is

506
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.039
it is it a type of bigfoot? Is it a

507
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.119
menir cousin?

508
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:31.599
You know?

509
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:33.440
I would.

510
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.119
I mean, like like I said in the beginning, I would.

511
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.719
I would think it's just a variation, just like anything else.

512
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:48.000
I think it just takes.

513
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.400
Like on different personalities in different places.

514
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:52.280
You know.

515
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.920
Like, yeah, people up here pretty miserable, So I would

516
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.519
imagine whatever's living up here in the woods would probably

517
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:08.039
be pretty miserable. Pretty rainy, wet, muggy cold, it's relentless

518
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.760
bad weather. So I don't know what whatever is out

519
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:17.559
here has to be somewhat capable of survival, uh, and

520
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:25.079
pretty decent extent. I would imagine, Well, it's rolling around

521
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.760
in rocks. That's terrifying, man, Like you didn't have that

522
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.280
the structural understanding of how to.

523
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:36.480
Yeah, dude, what.

524
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:39.119
Who knows?

525
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:39.480
I don't know.

526
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:41.239
Yeah, it's crazy.

527
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.840
What kind of tomfoolery is going on here?

528
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.719
Well, let's leave the episode with this. When you're deep

529
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.400
in the woods and you hear a branch snap, If

530
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.480
it's a sasquatch, you might get lucky and catch a glimpse.

531
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.679
If it's a Genoskua, you might want to roll on. Yeah,

532
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.920
because this ain't the Hiker's myth. This is an apex cryptid.

533
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:11.360
This is the Bigfoot's bigger, meaner cousin and the one

534
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.000
that doesn't miss leg Day.

535
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.480
I like that. It's a good way to end.

536
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:20.159
Man.

537
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.559
Do you not miss leg Day?

538
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.920
Miss? Yes? For sure, especially if they're rolling around in rocks. Yeah.

539
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:38.960
So all right, everybody, like, subscribe and share the podcast.

540
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:41.880
Yes, this is how we.

541
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.199
Keep this content coming. I know we've been a little

542
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:48.960
lax lately, but that's changing.

543
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.239
So yep.

544
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.599
Either way, they had some stuff to square away.

545
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.440
So I will take my accountability for that.

546
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.159
Like, share and subscribe to the episod so.

547
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.800
And show us some one see everybody, let's breath.

548
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:32.360
Yeah, you hear that. That's not good.

549
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:50.400
Breath deep in the trees with a silence, bend stings

550
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.800
where somebody won't prick sands, prince carved and frozen ground.

551
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.960
No way, no way.

552
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:03.360
Anybody like your astad to face something with said seration

553
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:04.880
hollow lies.

554
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.639
You don't see it seas you first.

555
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.880
Don't go deeper, don't go.

556
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:18.719
Far, you crystal, You should our rock a fire and

557
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:19.760
brain head.

558
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:25.000
And startling cry throws you along here and know you

559
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:31.400
that is not a friend a rock, don't dry something

560
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.920
that you want to chose now here?

561
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:37.559
How rise?

562
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:42.639
How right?

563
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.119
You're not gonna rock in the dead of night.

564
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.000
Little girl cutting.

565
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.199
Through the light, she snaps up like done.

566
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.480
You don't fight, you don't run, and then it should

567
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.599
be so fast, no sun.

568
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.400
No mer sakes, that's no shaking.

569
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:04.440
Throw your sin.

570
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:12.039
You were never meant to fine, it's not hiding, it's

571
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:12.800
not scared.

572
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:19.119
You were were, But you still the heart wire and

573
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:24.840
rating down, feeling cry and throwing balls. You don't belong here,

574
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:31.079
And no, it's not a Friday a fellow run crying

575
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.239
something that happen dime? You want to joke now your

576
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:37.880
somebout is right?

577
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.159
What right?

578
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:56.079
God?

579
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:03.639
I think you thought it was a missing maid. But

580
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.159
missed on'll eve you are afraid?

581
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:15.159
You hear the screeping in the dark, that's the sound.

582
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:17.320
Where you are.

583
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:36.239
How dang housel Dowdy Doro said, clouds, the clouds, You're right.

584
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:49.199
I hear breathing glo here and those not afraid. Now

585
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:54.239
then the r something on that head you.

586
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.679
Want to go. Now understand, you're est Lamb.

587
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:03.760
You'renest lam.

588
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:13.679
If it was a squatch, you might have seen.

589
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:17.239
But this

590
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:22.480
Is something else.