March 19, 2025

Into the Shadows: Exploring Maine’s Mysteries with Acadia After Dark

Into the Shadows: Exploring Maine’s Mysteries with Acadia After Dark
Into the Shadows: Exploring Maine’s Mysteries with Acadia After Dark
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Into the Shadows: Exploring Maine’s Mysteries with Acadia After Dark

In this chilling episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with the enigmatic Reverend Redbeard, host of Acadia After Dark, to unravel the supernatural secrets lurking in the dark corners of Maine. From spectral hauntings and cryptid encounters to...

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In this chilling episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with the enigmatic Reverend Redbeard, host of Acadia After Dark, to unravel the supernatural secrets lurking in the dark corners of Maine. From spectral hauntings and cryptid encounters to forgotten histories that refuse to stay buried, Acadia After Dark is a gateway into the eerie and unexplained. Join us as we dive into the legends of the Pine Tree State, discussing ghostly apparitions, hidden histories, and the strange phenomena that keep Mainers—and visitors—looking over their shoulders. Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, or just love a well-told mystery, this episode will have you questioning what lies beyond the veil. Keep your lantern lit and listen closely—some stories are best told after dark. Links https://www.youtube.com/@UCMMl9szBUwEQYHOf1xIWM5Q https://www.instagram.com/acadiaafterdark/?igsh=MTVkdzB5MWwxbDdmeQ%3D%3D

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All right, we are live and I'm here with a

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Katie after Dark podcast. But I'm here with Reverend Redbeard.

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How you doing.

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I'm doing well, man, good to be here.

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Tell us who you are and what you do?

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Man, Well, I go in the podcast and radio circuit.

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I go by Reverend Red Beard. I host folk radio

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and on a community station up here in Maine. I've

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lived around here a good chunk of my life. Been

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interested in paranormal, high streams spooky stuff most of my life,

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and I've started researching and writing about producing YouTube content podcasts,

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a Katie after Dart being my main show that I

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work on now and pretty much been doing this for

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the last six months or so. Pretty steady, a lot

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of growth, a lot of a lot of learning involved,

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but definitely enjoying it.

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Yeah. Man.

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So the one question I ask everyone that comes on,

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as we know, you know you brought it up high strangeness,

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this whole genre right right, and we all got into

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it somehow, like I got into it through Bigfoot. How

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did you get into this genre or the gateway drug

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I like to call it.

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So, Actually, that's an interesting story. I first got interested

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in the stuff actually through my grandmother Okay, because her

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house when I was very young, I'm talking as young

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as you can first develop memories. She lived in West

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Palm Beach, Florida, most of my life, and her house

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is the single most haunted place I've ever been to

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in all of my years.

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Wow.

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And even as a little kid, I experienced stuff there

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and kinda I wasn't afraid of it. I was just

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more interested in finding out what it was. So then

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as I got older, I kind of got into researching

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about it and wanted to understand. Then over the years,

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it just kind of evolved into everything you know, all

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of the UFOs, ghosts, Bigfoot, mothman, anything that was paranormal

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and somewhat in nature, the supernatural, even just getting into

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straight up folkore and stuff like that. It's been a

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big interesting part of my life. So it started out

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there pretty young, and it just kind of grew from that.

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But it was definitely living there experiencing that stuff at

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such a young age. It just kind of became a

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second nature.

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Yeah, And when did you move to Maine.

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I was born in Maine and then I moved to Florida.

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We would go back and forth when I was a kid,

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traveling between Maine and Florida, right, and then when I

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got older, I moved down there when I first turned

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like eighteen. I've lived in Florida for about a year.

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It might have been a little short of a year,

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but I lived down there for a while, realized that

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it was not a place I wanted to live year round,

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and pretty quickly moved back up to me And I've

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just laid down roots up here since then.

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Yeah, my, uh, we lived in Florida. My family were

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from We live in upstate New York. But and when

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I say upstate, I mean actually upstate, not like Westchester,

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you know, yeah or whatever.

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We lived outside Syracuse. But so I had.

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We had moved down to Florida for about I don't know,

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I think we lasted a whole lop in like six months,

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and we were like, nope, that man, So we moved

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back north. I mean, we didn't come all the way

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up north. We landed in Delaware for a bit. But

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but yeah, I can't I couldn't handle Florida in the

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summer and stuff.

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It was pretty brutal.

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So yeah, yeah, temperature, why is it takes some getting

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used to the big thing for me was all the bugs.

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I was like, man, I'm used to nan bugs, but

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down in Florida, Man, there was stuff that I didn't

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even know what it was called. Yeah. So I spent

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this one summer there where it happened to be one

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of the years that the cicadas.

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That pretty much killed the whole streak. Oh yeah, listening

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to those all night and then like waking up in

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the morning and just seeing that they're just like plastered

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all over the screen in porch outside your house. You know.

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I used to smoke, so I'd get up in the

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middle of the night and I'd go out there and

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I'd flip on the light switch and then I would

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just see the walls moving, and I just nope, I'm.

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Good, and like you get a well they call them

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palmetto bugs, but they're just big cockroaches, right.

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So my kids were like nope.

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And where we lived there was actually a a black bear,

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a Florida black bear infestation, so we literally and they're endangered,

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so you can't, you know, do anything. Well, they would

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literally walk My kids wouldn't even go outside and play

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because they literally there was bears walking outside their bedroom windows.

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Unbelievable.

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So oh yeah, no fear at all.

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None.

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You're going in some of those areas, it's literally like

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you can't go off of the sidewalks otherwise they're just there.

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Even then, it didn't matter. Like my kids were riding

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their bikes with my wife and next thing you know,

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there's a bear with a cub.

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Some across the street and like, no, no, exactly. Oh yeah.

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So it's like you got critters everywhere, you know.

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And so.

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Did you ever have to deal with the alligators down there?

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No? I dealt with alligators more North Carolina when I

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lived there than I did in Florida. I didn't really

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didn't really have to deal with them, but I mean

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I knew they're there.

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But that's probably for the best. There were a couple

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they are they We were had pretty calm in there.

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Is where you go out in the morning and they

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let you get underneath people's cars. So you go out

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there and if one was under your car, you're not

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going to work that morning. Yeah, simple as that. You know,

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unless you were brazen enough you wanted to get under

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there and drag them out, but I usually wasn't willing

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to do that. Yeah, yeah, or foot long gator not

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gonna want to mess with that six thirty in the morning.

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So now that's just crazy crazy.

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So so Maine, I had to two things. So my

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wife and I the last few summers have gone up

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to Maine, I mean, with my kids and whatnot. My

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my daughter plays one of my daughters plays volleyball, and

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she was recruited by Southern wait two different places in Maine.

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One was, uh, Southern Maine, like Southern Maine University. Maybe

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it's like in Gorham and Portland. There's a campus in

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both places. And then Saint jose Saint Joseph's and a

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little farther up north. But she so we went up

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there and visited those schools. But I grew up going

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to one of my he was my great uncle, and

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I wouldn't say grow you know, growing up, I went

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a whole bunch.

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I went a couple of times up to Porter Porter Main.

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In that area that's actually named after one of my family,

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part of my family, the Porters, and so they so

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there was there, but they had a place on a

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lake called Moosehead Lake. Yes, so they yeah, So they

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used to spend their summers there and then they spent

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their winters in Arizona. So every once in a while

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we get invited, you know. So I loved it, camp

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I loved it.

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Oh it's a beautiful, beautiful place. It's it's it's surprising

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the amount of variety you have because I have Southern Maine, yeap,

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where you know, going looking at schools, and then you

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get to mid Coast, it's like two entirely different places.

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Then when you go up north, you're in the world.

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A totally different world.

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Oh yeah, we went last year in the late summer.

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So I don't know if you've ever heard of the

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Lost Kitchen.

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Yeah, so it's a restaurant super I guess in theory,

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and I'm not saying this the brag. It's like the

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most exclusive restaurant in the world at this point because

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the only way that they do reservations is you have

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to send in a postcard and then they blindly pick

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postcards and call you and say, hey, you know when

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you have available, and they've got like and they only

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served from May to.

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September.

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Really, I think it's the end of September and April

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to September and freedom, Freedom Maine.

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And so.

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We got our postcard. Polled last year so me and

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my two of my daughters I have four daughters and

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my wife and I went up and it was pretty

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freaking epic.

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It was.

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So I'm just saying to anyone listening to if you

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ever you got to send in a postcard. But I

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mean it's expensive too, but it was the best. It's

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the best meal I've ever had. It was amazing and

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literally like the oysters, the scallops, the cod, everything that

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we had was like you know, had been caught like

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two days prior.

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Yeah, it was.

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It was epic, an epic neil. So that's when I

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went to you know, that was one of my main experiences.

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And then the other one is Bougie.

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Maine, where we went and stayed in like Olgunquet or

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Kenny Bunkport, you know.

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Oh yeah, which is which is cool, but it's tourists,

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you know.

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Central is that the place I've always wanted to go though,

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So maybe next maybe this that, like this fall as

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I'd like to run up to the uh To Origin, Maine.

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You know what I'm talking about.

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There's a plant there where they make jeans and all

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kinds of stuff. Everything's made in America and it's just

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a cool freaking company. So I've always wanted to go

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up there and check those guys out.

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So anyway, we liked out.

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We have some of those random weird outlets up here where. Yeah,

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like these companies you would never think would be up here,

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and we happen to be like the factory for them,

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so you can come up here and get like good

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deals on stuff like Lban.

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Oh yeah, and I wear I wear like yellow being

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everything almost right.

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I mean, it's kind of one of those things. Is

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like I think if you live in New England, it's

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basically a staple of life. Yeah, kind of you know,

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but kind of bunk. I mean, it's nice area and

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there's definitely like plenty to see there, but like I said,

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it is kind of a tourist centric area, which is good.

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It's like Main is kind of tourist central nowadays compared

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to what it used to be. We used to be

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a big logging community. Fishing is a big thing, but

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as those who kind of had to be dialed back

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for obvious reasons due to you know, shifting the changes

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in the climate and the economy and regulations and this

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and that had to make adjustments. So a big part

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of our industry up here, and I don't know specifics

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on it is like tourism.

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Oh yeah, well what do they call it, uh, vacation land.

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Vacation land, vacation land.

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As soon as you across the border from New Hampshire

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and it's vacation land and you're like, oh my god,

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but it is.

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It's gorgeous there.

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So yeah, for sure, we.

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Like the Rocky Coast and the you know, it's it's

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a vibe.

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Man.

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And I'm from New England originally, so uh, I grew

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up in Connectic. Well, I grew up for a while

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in Connecticut and I love it so and Maine. You know,

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New England's all kind of the same a little bit.

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There's there's that that ethos, right, yeah, it's.

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But what's cool about Maine too is that it's got

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a lot of history, not just.

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And it's not just you know, from like New England history,

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you get you get parts of Canada are straight up more.

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There's more influence from Canada than from Maine. I said Canada,

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but I meant Maine. But there's more influence from Canada

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then there is the United States and a lot of

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parts of Maine, right, Yeah, for sure, so you get

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all those stories too.

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Yeah, Like historically, basically if you look back at like

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the region that is Maine now, before it was part

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of the territory of Massachusetts and owned as part of

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the original Thirteen Colonies. Before that, it was mostly Wabanaki territory.

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So at the time it was the Wabanaki Confederacy, which

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is like twelve different tribes that was in the same region.

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One of the biggest ones of the panomscott was like

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literally the one that was mostly inhabiting Acadian national part

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or where I'm based.

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Out of, gotcha.

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Then Akkadians came in in like the sixteen to seventeen hundreds.

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Those were French settlers that came to Canada and then

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we're basically sent down here by the French royalty to

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basically settle the land. Then when they things happened, I'm

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not going to get into a long detailed history on it,

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but happened where basically they drove them further south. So

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what was the original Acadia, so Akadia after dark, the

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original region of Acadia went basically all the way from

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Nova Scotia down through the coast of Maine almost to

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New Hampshire. Yeah, and it's a melting pot. Like you said,

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it's really it's European, it's Canadian French. You've got a

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little bit of that, you know history there. You've got

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indigenous history, then you have the colonial New England history

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that came in in like the seventeen eighteen hundreds, which

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really is like just the tip of the iceberg when

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you look at back at all of the region history,

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and that's what I'm trying to like dig deeper into

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the further back I go. It's like a peeling back

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layers on an onion. It's just more and more and

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more and unlike anything I've ever seen because it's so varied,

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Like we have stories of everything from all these different

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cultures here, and it's really wild when you like see

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how how diverse it is.

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Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. I just know a lot of

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people in Northern main speak French.

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Yeah a lot. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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It's like.

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We call it the county and basically if you're past Bangor,

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you've got to have it as a second language, right,

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not gonna You're not going to be able to just

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coexist there.

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Yeah, it's crazy, which is so cool. I mean it's cool,

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it's not, you know, but it is literally like a

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different a different country, right.

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It feels that way. It certainly feels that way. I've

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made the argument. I mean, honestly, if it were to

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come down to it, they they have said before that

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like if you don't really know where the border is

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once you get past a certain way, because it's just

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the way it feels you get up here, you might

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as well just be in Canada at a certain right.

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Right for sure. Yeah, it's almost like that here too.

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Once you get up into up up the North Country,

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you've got you know, everyone, it feels like everyone's got

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roots in Canada as well, or just as much in

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Canada as they do here.

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So are you right on the other side of the

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lakes basically?

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Yeah, I mean literally, the only thing different are the

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only thing separating use of the Saint Lawrence River.

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That's it.

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So not so yeah, so so a Katie after dark.

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So give me some stories, man, Like some stuff that's

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like peaked your interest as of, you know, throughout throughout

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the years, Like what what are some cool stories? And

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you know, whether there goes it doesn't matter what they are,

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it's just you know.

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All right, we'll roll of the dice. I'll do one

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of my my most popular ones. Possibly, have you heard

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of the Werewolves?

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Not?

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In no, we have.

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You can choose to call him were wolves.

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What I feel like I saw I saw? Isn't there

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like a family?

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Yes?

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Exactly, I saw that on your website.

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You want to hear that.

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Did you just see that?

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I had believed I saw balloons? That's weird magic.

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It's the werewolves. Man, they made the balloons pop.

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Up apparently that that wouldn't surprise me because this case

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is a weird one. So yeah, if you want to

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hear some of that story.

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I do.

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I do. That's that's a really cool one. It's it's uh,

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basically involves this family, the Martin family. Back in the

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early two thousands, Eric Martin, Shelley Martin. Eric Martin is

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a textile worker and he basically he gets injured at

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work and as a result of it, they had this

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nice house that was like closer to Portland. They had

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to sell it and move further out into the rural territory.

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So they move out to the town Palmyra, and palmyran

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gorgeous community, but it's like farmland surrounded by woods, so

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they buy this little ranch out there, okay, and it's

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a good piece of property, like I've found it and

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I've actually checked it out, and it's a nice area.

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But this area has a history, It had a history

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dating back. They didn't know this, of course, never do.

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But they basically bought this probably of land that they

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had has bend like storied since the literally Wabanaki people

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used to talk about seeing like ghost lights and stuff there.

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It's had all kinds of weird activity throughout the generations.

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And they just happened to have bought this house that

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sits right in the middle of this like area that's

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just rife with this stuff. Okay, right, so setting up

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that pretty much as soon as they move in, they

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start weird stuff happen. The family is husband, Eric Shelley,

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his wife, and their daughter Chelsea. His son Sean lives

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a little while away. He's like in the next town over. Basically, Okay,

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and I'll tell you right now, as far as I know,

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this story is true, but it's almost impossible to confirm

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any of it. Yeah, which is unfortunate because there's some

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details of it that I really feel like there should

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be something there. We'll get to it. But basically, they

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buy this house, they move in. As soon as they

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move in, they start seeing weird stuff. For instance, they're

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sitting out in their dooryard one night, they're drinking their coffee.

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It's like ten at night. They're looking across the yard

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and they see lights moving through the trees, thinking that

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somebody who like flashlights or something that was like trespassing.

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So Eric and calls his son son comes over. They

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go out walk the trail out to where they saw

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these lights. Okay, they get out there, and as soon

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as they went through the tree line, these lights just disappeared,

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just gone. Not that like they heard anything, just it

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was silent and the lights went away. So they basically

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chalk it up to just a weird thing. Wait around

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a little while to see if they come back spot

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and walk into their car or something figuring in some teenagers,

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I guess, right. So they walk up the road. They

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don't see anybody. They don't see anybody parked anywhere remotely

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nearby to where they could have walked to the property.

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And this is remote, so if there's anybody out there

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walking around in these woods, they're hiking for miles in

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the middle of the night in the dark. It's not

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highly likely, but they give up. They walk back home,

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they all go to bed. Nothing else happens that day.

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Then as they're staying there, stuff continues. Weird shit keeps happening.

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Their daughter is going out on a walk. She happens

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to come across this weird hole in the ground that

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her dog's like freaked out and dragged her over to.

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And it's this big hole that looks like something like

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a large animal had burrowed into this pile of just

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wood and just made a nest. And she's looking at that,

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she just gets this freaked out vibe. She's just like,

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I get it away. So her the dogs run back

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to the house. She calls her boyfriend. He comes back

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with her. They actually try going in the hole and

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they see that there's like hair and stuff inside of it.

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So something definitely was making a den and this is

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like right on their property. Okay, So then fast forward,

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just weird, strange stuff happening. We come to Memorial weekend

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and basically they're out there chilling out at the end

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of the night, enjoying their time, sitting on the porch

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just looking out across the property and Eric and Shelley

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are there, and Eric sees something like eyeshine walking out

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of the woods, and he pretty immediately he's a hunter

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and he's lived around this area. He recognizes predators and

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you know, its like if it's a coyote or something

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like that, he's usually going to drive it off. So

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he gets up and as he's looking, he notices more

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sets eyes popping up in the tree line. Well, he

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pretty much immediately tells his wife, I think they need

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to get inside. She gets up, she starts heading into

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the house, and as she's heading inside, he sees five

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dark sheapes just come out of the tree line and

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start making their way across this field towards their house.

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He turns around, high tails it inside behind her. They

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shut the door, they locked the windows, they locked the door.

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They're closing the blinds, and as they're closing the blinds,

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they see these things walking up into the porch light.

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And as they described it, these are animals that were

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standing on their hind legs, about seven feet tall. They

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had a dog like head, blackish brown fur. There's five

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of them that they can see, and they're able. They

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said that they could tell they were like they walk

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on all fours, but they'd stand up freely on their

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back legs like rear up and be able to walk around.

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This is not common traits for most animals up here.

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Coyotes do not do that. Bears don't really move around

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that way unless they, like are trying to get something.

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We have black bears, lots of them, but anybody that

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lives here knows what a black bear looks like. So unfortunately,

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they had already gotten into the house and locked their

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doors and everything, so they're stuck inside and these animals

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are circling up on their porch and everything. Eric had

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a bunch of guns because he was an avid hunter,

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but his wife absolutely hated having guns in the house,

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so he had to store them in his barn on

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the property, which is out on the other side of

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the house. Looking at it, I'd say it's probably about

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one hundred feet away from their main house because they

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have like a little shed that is just like for

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like their car and stuff, and then they had a

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bigger barn which is where he had to store his guns.

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So he tries to get out the back door, hoping

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to sneak out by around the back to get to

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the guns. To defend themselves. Unfortunately, he gets out there

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and they had a motion sensor floodlight, and as soon

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as he walked in front of it, the light came

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on and he hears the animals start running around the

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side of the house.

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To come god.

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So he basically aborts mission, runs back inside, slams the

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door behind him, and they run upstairs, figuring, okay, we'll

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at least get up to the second floor and get

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a better visual on these things. So they go upstairs.

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Their dogs are hidden in their bedroom, like cowered in

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under their.

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Beck, I would think, and they wake up.

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Their teenage daughter and they tell her, like, hurry up,

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get into the bedroom. She goes in, not knowing what's

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going on, and basically it's just freaking out. From what

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they said, he was pretty much just traumatized at that point.

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She's seventeen years old and like, get woke up in

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the middle of the night with her parents screaming, we

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got to hide in the bedroom. I'm sure she doesn't

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have a great time, but we turn around. She's like

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as they're going into the bedroom, they hear something climbing

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up the side of the house that gets onto the

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little overhang roof that's right outside of the bedrooms. And

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they can hear these things climb up the side of

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the roof and then onto the roof above their heads

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and just start digging into the tiles above their heads.

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Like they can hear them scraping at the wood trying

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to dig through the roof to get at him. In

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the bedroom. They had the lights off. They're freaking out

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trying to just like stay calm enough. They don't make

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them more aware of where they are. And it decides

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he has to try and go for the guns again.

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So for whatever, and he makes another attempt. He goes downstairs.

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He gets all the way out to his truck, figuring, okay,

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if he gets to this truck, he can pull the

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truck up front and at least then he has something

476
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.319
that if they come after him, he could like hit

477
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.880
over away, right right. So as he goes to get

478
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:24.160
to his truck, one of the things literally comes around

479
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.920
the side of the house. And he said, as soon

480
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.359
as it came around the house, it went by that

481
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.839
same spot where that floodlight had ben and when the

482
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.400
light hit it, he saw it, like fully saw the

483
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.000
whole thing and what it looked like. He said, it

484
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.720
was not like anything he had ever seen before. But

485
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.640
it also as soon as that light hit it, the

486
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:51.440
thing freaked out and like ran away. It didn't like

487
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.720
being in the light for whatever reason. So as soon

488
00:28:55.759 --> 00:29:00.480
as it runs off, he decides, okay, I'm gonna get

489
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.400
to the barn. Well, unfortunately, there's no light on that

490
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.839
side of the house, so as soon as he went

491
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.759
to run around, he can hear the other ones coming

492
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.440
back around because they heard the whole thing going on.

493
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.119
He again runs inside, and they just batten down the

494
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.319
hatches and decide, Okay, we're gonna wait it out. So

495
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:23.920
they're all inside and they basically just had to cower

496
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.519
in that room for the rest of the night until

497
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.519
about six thirty in the morning when the sun finally

498
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.759
came up, and they said when the sun came up,

499
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:39.039
it was like silent. Instantly, they just gone right. They

500
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:44.680
turned around, they went back outside in full daylight. They

501
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:49.240
went and inspected the property. They found like the tiles

502
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.079
that were torn off of the shingles. They found scrapes

503
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.680
in the porch, the wood around the doors where they'd

504
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.279
been trying to scrape their way in. They found like

505
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.480
dig marks all over the the house, where they had

506
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.599
just been rooting around in the ground trying to find

507
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:10.240
ways to get underneath them, guessing, and supposedly this is

508
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.960
the part where I'm like, I wish there was more

509
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.000
ways to verify this.

510
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:14.119
Yeah, yeah.

511
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.960
Supposedly, he had his son Sean come over with his

512
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.079
digital camera, took a bunch of pictures of these tracks,

513
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:28.799
the scrapes, all of that. Okay, Then apparently for whatever reason,

514
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.240
when he went to transfer them, they all got deleted.

515
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:40.480
Of course they did, of course they did, right. So

516
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:46.079
then after that they had called the cops. The cops

517
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.880
basically told them, We're sorry, there's nothing we can do

518
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:50.160
for you.

519
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.480
Oh my god.

520
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.160
They're like they didn't even question them, if it was

521
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:58.640
like they believed them or not. They were just like, yeah, right.

522
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.160
And to that, I have to say, honestly, having lived

523
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.559
in this area and knowing how like law enforcement around

524
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:10.279
here is, people that aren't rural areas like this kind

525
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.880
of have to get the picture that if you have

526
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.240
a town like Palmyra that has like, oh, you know,

527
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:21.359
fifteen hundred people living there, tops you've got two cops

528
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:26.200
that are covering like that, and three other towns around you,

529
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.319
you're pretty much on your own. The nearest hospital is

530
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.240
a half an hour away. You're you're you know, you're

531
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.559
pretty isolated, so I do understand that it was probably

532
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.960
Memorial weekend. You've probably got one guy sitting at the station.

533
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.720
He's like, I'm not a quick to deal with this,

534
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.799
So I'm like, I don't necessarily knock them for that.

535
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.440
Can I take a message please?

536
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.119
Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Like, we'll check in with you tomorrow.

537
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.519
I hope you do all right. Happy Memorial Day. But

538
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.519
I thought that story was really cool. I did a

539
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.279
lot of research on it after the fact, and there's

540
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.960
certain parts of it that I would like to find

541
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.240
out more, like I want to dig deeper into it.

542
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.319
But I thought it was an interesting story. Absolutely, you

543
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.319
probably heard it a few times, or at least like

544
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.960
versions of it, because I know that it's one that

545
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.599
got covered on like that show Paranormal Witness. They were

546
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.200
on at years ago, so it's one of those ones

547
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.680
pretty famous around here. But we have more like.

548
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.680
Mine is though I bet his wife allows him to

549
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.119
have guns in the house now.

550
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.599
I certainly hope so, because honestly, if there was anything

551
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.359
that would ever convince somebody is when you're besieged by

552
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.880
literal were wolves for an entire night.

553
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.160
Yeah, that's great.

554
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.000
Wow, But we do have like the Turner Beast, which

555
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.519
is literally right up the road from there, which is

556
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.160
another wolf like cryptid.

557
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.200
Yeah, but is is it like different or is it just.

558
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:00.279
It's wolf like it's smaller. It was an animal that

559
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.759
was hit by a person like in a car, and

560
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.720
when they identified it, it was some type of a hybrid.

561
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:07.279
Basically.

562
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.079
When I saw the pictures of it, it looks like

563
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.319
a jackal to me, and we don't have jackals here.

564
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.160
Yeah, of course not because I don't know in North America.

565
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:21.799
Right, I don't know how we would end up with

566
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.960
a wild dog and mean, but that's what it looked

567
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.839
like when I saw it, and that one was like

568
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.799
confirmed it did happen. So we have some weird stuff

569
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.400
that doesn't even fit on the radar.

570
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.880
It's weird. Yeah.

571
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.319
I see that there's a few bigfoot sightings in and

572
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:44.519
around Acadia, yep. Yeah, yeah, which is not surprising.

573
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.200
Now, we're very squatchy up here. I think it's a

574
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.960
good area, but it's also we've got that thing where

575
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.039
we're so low population density that the animal human encounters

576
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.160
aren't high. Yeah, that's why we don't show up when

577
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.559
you look at us on like you know, you look

578
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.839
at us on most of the like bigfoot tracking like.

579
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.559
Yeah, like we sit project or whatever.

580
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.679
Yeah. I think it's like we've got probably like thirty

581
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.159
something sighting since the seventies.

582
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:18.639
Right the most actually, and it's probably because it's a

583
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.239
heavy tourist.

584
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.280
There's a lot and we have a big national park

585
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.639
here where a lot we're out hiking and stuff in

586
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.679
this national park. It's like it's one of those areas

587
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.880
that part of the whole a Kadi after dark thing

588
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:36.960
is is it's like a pristine, beautiful like place.

589
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.239
A Kadian National Park is gorgeous, it is, but it's

590
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.840
a national park and there's always shady shit going on

591
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.800
in national yeah, or national.

592
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.559
Forests, absolutely, and this one is no exception. That's where

593
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.400
the after dark aspect came in because even the even

594
00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.119
the old legends here always said that like despite it all, well,

595
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.719
once night sets in here, it really does like gain

596
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:08.880
a whole different vibe. The island that Acadia National Park

597
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.960
is around as mountain desert and it literally is probably

598
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.079
one of the most haunted places you've never heard of

599
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.199
and everywhere in that island is haunted. It's just one

600
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.719
of those places. It's a gigantic rock that is just granite.

601
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.519
It is full of rock holes and caves and all

602
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.440
kinds of weird stuff, mountains and everything else. Tons of forests,

603
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.119
there's like fishing communities all around the coastline, and then

604
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:43.079
there's just all of this expanse of nature and all

605
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.280
kinds of stuff collects there. I like to say that

606
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.880
like all the stuff that like comes gets kicked out

607
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.719
of the Appalachians ends up here.

608
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.679
Right absolutely right, It's like where it all just goes

609
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.280
to like hide, right.

610
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.320
Yeah, I mean vacation land, right, I mean everybody needs

611
00:35:59.320 --> 00:35:59.840
a vacation.

612
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.000
But I mean you're right, Like if you look at

613
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.679
the map, once you get north of like I mean

614
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.119
there really I say that there really.

615
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.239
Isn't anything north of I mean you've got like Augusta.

616
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.320
And stuff right off off the off the coast, and

617
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.199
then really once you get past Belfast, which I know,

618
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.480
I've been to Belfast and it's not very much like.

619
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.920
It's a little fisher village once you get north of there,

620
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:33.119
and ship like Angor is like the next like hub

621
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:36.440
and that's like in the middle of the state. Right

622
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.760
then north you end up in like well, like I said,

623
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.639
you go really far north, you're basically what we call

624
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:48.159
the county that's real stic and we have you have

625
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:55.519
around the Allegash Waterway Moosehead Lake area that's like a

626
00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:00.679
big national park as well, and it's very densely forested.

627
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.480
We have like I think an eighty percent forestation rate

628
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.679
since we like stopped cutting all of our trees down,

629
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.719
and we're probably one of the most forested states. But

630
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.320
you go to that area, you have to literally take

631
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.000
a plane in. Yeah, is that remote in some areas,

632
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.840
and we have so much stuff up there that nobody

633
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.400
can track. There's literally no people out there. Yeah, those

634
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.760
when it comes to like I've done a lot of

635
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:33.440
research on the Eastern kugar because it's supposedly extinct in

636
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:37.519
all of the eastern United States aside from Florida, and

637
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.119
I know factually they're here, Like we have Eastern cougar

638
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.519
here in Maine in Acadia, and it's not even like

639
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.000
a secret around here, but it's just not acknowledged by

640
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:51.960
biologists and game warnings and stuff.

641
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:52.559
Right.

642
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.039
Yeah, it's like every person you talk to up here

643
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:55.719
is seen one.

644
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.079
Oh yeah, but they're like, nah, those don't exist.

645
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.280
Yeah, no, they'll literally a slate you about it instead.

646
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.079
Are you sure it wasn't a house cat? Oh my lord,

647
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:05.519
it's ridiculous.

648
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.360
We kind of get the same thing in the Adirondecks here.

649
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.079
Because people see they will we'll see cougars and they'll

650
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:18.159
be like, it's just a transient whatever, transient to wear

651
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:19.480
probably the main.

652
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.480
Now right now, they're not that.

653
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:26.079
But then like wolves too, like you know, oh there's

654
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:30.400
no wolves. Yeah, there's there's freaking wolves. Well, there's some

655
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.039
sort of hybrid because they're giant, they're not coyotes.

656
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.800
So no, you see a coyote, you definitely know the

657
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.480
difference of coyote and a wolf. They are a very

658
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:46.480
different animal and they they hundred yeah exactly. Yeah, we

659
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.719
have tons of coyotes around here, but it's like Western

660
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:54.599
main we have wolves. But they supposedly are transient coming

661
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.000
through Canada down to the lakes, right I'm like, they

662
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.679
have such wide territories, there's no way that there's not

663
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.360
populations of them somewhere out there in the state. Just

664
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.880
one of those things. It's kind of it's almost to

665
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.119
the point of absurdity for them to try and say

666
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:15.000
they're not. But right, Yeah, we have such a weird,

667
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.320
weird relationship with nature here because we had like a

668
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.719
forest industry and a fishing industry that basically controlled a

669
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:28.400
lot of the economic decisions of the state for centuries,

670
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.159
and it still does to an extent. I think that's

671
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.280
like the biggest reason we don't acknowledge some of the

672
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.440
stuff that's here is because if we did, then we

673
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:36.599
have to actually deal with it.

674
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.480
Yeah, that makes sense, the Lord.

675
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.360
Yeah, it really is like when you get into the

676
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.280
interior man and it's like, wow.

677
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.360
Yeah, we had a I mean down here when you

678
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.000
look at like a Kadia and Mountain Zsras Island, that

679
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.760
area is surprisingly popular with like all these little fishing

680
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.960
towns and like little like vacation spots.

681
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:05.519
Yep.

682
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.920
Bar Harbor in particular is like if you ever do

683
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.199
want to come up to me and go to a

684
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.760
really just cool place, that's the one that I would

685
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:18.119
recommend if you want to go to a place that

686
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.800
it's got a good mix of everything, and they have

687
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.760
I mean, you're in a Kadian National Park, but you

688
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.639
also have like a cool little like fishing village that's

689
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.480
been modernized to the point that they have like a

690
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.639
movie theater and stuff like that. Yeah, but it's all

691
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.800
like historic stuff. Yeah, you have stuff to do, but

692
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.519
you can also enjoy the nature of everything. And that's

693
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.199
I mean. I grew up there and I go there

694
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:48.599
in the summers and just play tourists for the day

695
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.400
and it's like it's magical. It really is. I can't

696
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.079
recommend it enough. If you're traveling in the area, definitely

697
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:55.000
check that place out.

698
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.760
And everything's haunted exactly.

699
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.599
I mean five haunted inns at the east that are

700
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.599
all beautiful, and I could fully recommend. I published an

701
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.280
entire list of just haunted hotels and inns in the

702
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.559
local area a couple of weeks ago, and that was

703
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.519
barely like the tip of the iceberg, because it seems

704
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.280
like it's honestly everywhere, and half the trails up here

705
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.519
are haunted too. If you go to a Kadian National

706
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.679
park and you just walk through the park, there's like

707
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.079
numerous trails that are just haunted.

708
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:25.800
Why.

709
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.800
I think it has a lot to do with a

710
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.679
the history of the area, because it's incredibly old, and

711
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.719
I think it's actually the granite rock composition combined with

712
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.960
the fact that surrounded by water. Yeah, I think the

713
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.840
combination and interplay of those energies mixing seems to do things.

714
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.400
And that's what every medium I've ever talked to says,

715
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.199
is that, like it's got to be that.

716
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:52.000
Yeah.

717
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.440
And I actually was just talking to a woman, she's

718
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.760
a Mick Mac. She's lived in the area entire life,

719
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.840
and she said that in their stories, like that's the

720
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.719
main reason. And she's like, it's because of the water.

721
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.199
It's because the water keeps all of that energy there

722
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.639
and so it makes it so spirits they're just grown

723
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.840
into the rock and they just stay in this area.

724
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:20.440
Yeah, that's because.

725
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.960
Yeah, I mean it's one of those things like you hear,

726
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.320
you know, lay lines and just areas that are thin, right, Yeah,

727
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:31.280
So I wonder if it does. It's probably got something

728
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.440
to do with the granite, the stone.

729
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.760
She kind of described it as the opposite. She described

730
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.280
it as a void of where like a lay line,

731
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.760
you would be getting energy from other things and this

732
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.880
one the energy stays within.

733
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.280
It. Yeah, kind of like an energy islands. Yeah literally,

734
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.559
and no no pun intended there, but.

735
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.679
Yeah, yeah, it's very weird. But honestly, like I've stayed

736
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.480
in so many places around here, and like, I'm a

737
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.559
skeptic when it comes to ninety nine percent of stuff,

738
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.679
to the point that I kind of ruined my own

739
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:09.800
fun a lot of times.

740
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:10.920
Right.

741
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.400
People have said that, like you give away the plot

742
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.280
too fast, and I'm like, well, I'm not a snake

743
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.599
oil salesman. I'm not going to tell people stuff that

744
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.599
I don't believe it's true. Right, So part of that

745
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.239
goes to, like a lot of these haunted places that

746
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.480
I've stayed at on the island and places that I've investigated,

747
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.400
and that I've been to a lot of those places,

748
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.119
it's like a certain degree of it is like they

749
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.679
have a history. You kind of live here. You know

750
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.360
that going in, So you always have to set that

751
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.079
aside because you already know the story and the legends

752
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.599
behind a place, you're not going to really be able

753
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:46.760
to really experience it.

754
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.639
Yeah, you got kind of going cold.

755
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.039
Yes, I've only been able to do that once and

756
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.039
I didn't know what I was getting into until after.

757
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.639
And the place doesn't operate under the same name that

758
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:03.440
it used to go by, and I don't know the

759
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.440
name of it now. But there was this inn that

760
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.880
I stayed at, probably back in I want to say

761
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.840
it was twenty eighteen. There was this inn. It's right

762
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.719
in the center of town, small little bed and breakfast.

763
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.480
This is in Bar Harbor, in Bar Harbor, in Bar Harbor.

764
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.320
Okay, so it's right in the center of town, this

765
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.239
little bed and breakfast. We had a storm coming through

766
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.079
town and where I worked to make sure we had staff,

767
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.599
we would just house people in one of the hotels.

768
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.239
I opted to stay there the night. Figured, Okay, I

769
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.239
got a free night in a hotel and a nice meal,

770
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.760
and I'll just be into work a little early next morning. Okay.

771
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:47.559
So as we settle in for the night, I have

772
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.599
never played, never stayed at this place before. I've never

773
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.559
heard a word of it, No, nothing of it. So

774
00:44:55.360 --> 00:45:00.920
that night we all stayed up, you know, down the downstairs,

775
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.079
drinking and stuff and had a good time, and then

776
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.679
everybody goes to their sepp rooms. We all settle in.

777
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:12.159
It's about two in the morning that I'm laying in

778
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.039
bed and I feel a pressure on the end of

779
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.320
my bed. I'm staying in this room alone, so immediately

780
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.159
I'm like, there's no way there's somebody there. But I

781
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.880
felt the pressure. Well, when I opened my eyes and

782
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.599
I look down at the foot of my bed. I'm

783
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.639
laying on my side and I look down, I see

784
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.480
the silhouette of a cat sitting right at the foot

785
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:42.920
of my bed, and I'm like, that's really weird because

786
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.960
I don't know why you would have a cat just

787
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.199
roaming around the place, and how would it get into

788
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:51.559
my room? Right, So I go to get up, and

789
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.840
when I get up, I don't see this cat anywhere.

790
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.199
I turn on the light. I'm looking under the bed.

791
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.599
I'm looking to see if the door had oh if

792
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.559
there was like a closet that it could have crawled

793
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.039
in through. I can find nothing, no trace of this

794
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:12.199
animal anywhere. And I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go out

795
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:14.079
in the hallway and see if I can spawn anything.

796
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.119
And I open up the door and I look out

797
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:20.280
in the hall and down the hallway there's this little

798
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:26.360
like hatch, like a little storage door, and I see

799
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.119
that door, and for some reason, I just got this

800
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.519
vibe that I was like, don't go anywhere near that door,

801
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.800
right right. So I'm staying on the third floor of

802
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.239
this hotel, well listen, and I just get this vibe

803
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.320
I'm like, don't go anywhere near that door. And I

804
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.719
figure it's I'm already almost three in the morning. I

805
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.000
gotta go to work at like four. I'm just gonna

806
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.599
get up and go downstairs and start getting coffee whatever.

807
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.599
So I get up, I go down and I get

808
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:03.679
into the lobby. The owner happened to be there. He's

809
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.159
clearing off cars and the porch cleared off so people

810
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.480
can get out in the morning and everything. And I

811
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.280
go up to him and I'm like, hey man, I'm like,

812
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.000
I got a question for you. I'm like, I just

813
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.960
Scott woken up. I'm like He's like, oh really. He's

814
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:21.840
like as somebody being loud to I'm like no, I'm

815
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.159
like I don't know what it was. I'm like, something

816
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:25.960
woke me up. And then I thought I saw a

817
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.280
cat in my room. He's like, oh, you're on the

818
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:33.119
third floor right. I was like yeah, and he's like,

819
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.239
you're the one in the end of the hallway. It's

820
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.440
like yeah. He's like everybody that stays in that room

821
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.159
has that happen. Wow, He's like every single person that

822
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.639
stays in there, right next to that little cubby hole.

823
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.639
Every person that stays in that room says that. I'm like, well,

824
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.360
you don't have a cat. He's like, no, we've never

825
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.760
had a cat here. Wow, Like we do not, So

826
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:03.639
I little weirded out. I go to work, figure I

827
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.639
come back end of the day, I go and check

828
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.440
back in. There's a different person at the counter and

829
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.000
I'm like, hey, I'm just going to see if he

830
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.519
was just feeding me a you know line. Yeah, you know.

831
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.519
So I'm like hey, I was like, hey, you guys

832
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.639
happen to have a cat around here. They're like, no,

833
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.599
we've never we don't have a cat. I was like,

834
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.559
you can't have cats? Yeah? Like okay, so is there

835
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.239
anything on the third floor that I should know about?

836
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.320
And they're like, well, we don't really like advertise it.

837
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.239
They're like, but yeah, like people have said some really

838
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:41.360
weird things. And I'm like about a cat. He's like yeah,

839
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.199
about a cat?

840
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:44.280
Okay.

841
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.280
I'm like, so what's the deal with this place? And

842
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.559
he's like, I'm not supposed to say anything.

843
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.119
Oh my gosh, really come on here.

844
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.079
So I'm like come on. I'm like buddy, I'm like

845
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.760
come on. I'm like I'm from a here. I'm like

846
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:02.719
I'm not this is not my first rodeo. I'm like,

847
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.159
tell me the lowdown. It's like okay, he's like, I'll

848
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.679
level with you. He's like, over there, points off to

849
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.719
his left. It's like that little door past the coffee station.

850
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.960
That door is where our spot is now. So they

851
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.639
had like a messuse and stuff like that. Yeah, this

852
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:26.199
is on the first floor of this place. He's like,

853
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:31.039
if you go through that door, there's the massage tables,

854
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.559
there's a sauna set up, and then on the other

855
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.599
side of the room there's a metal door that's sealed up.

856
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:45.159
That door is the ovens for the crematorium that used

857
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:46.760
to be in the basement of this place.

858
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.199
Nice, that's legit right there.

859
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:57.280
I dude to say, I almost shit a break and

860
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.039
that right there, I was like, honestly, haven't gone in

861
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.480
to that completely cold had experience that was then confirmed,

862
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.159
and then to find out that this place had that

863
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.400
weird like I mean, to find out this was like

864
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:11.960
a funeral home literally there.

865
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.559
Yeah, like, I wonder what else they've got besides cats or.

866
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.000
That would make me if I can get back there

867
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.119
to stay again, I absolutely would because it was also

868
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.360
just a really nice place. Yeah, it was just an

869
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.599
incredibly nice in but knowing that history to it, I'm like,

870
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.840
I want to go back now. But the guy that

871
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:39.360
sold it didn't want to be advertised place, and we have.

872
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.039
Understanding people shy away from that.

873
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.840
But why like in this day and age, well, you

874
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.639
know what, I guess it's kind of going that way right,

875
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:52.239
Like this like this genre that we're in is becoming

876
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:56.360
way more less stigmatized. So at the end of the day,

877
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.119
hotels should be like, yeah, we are haunted.

878
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.880
Oh for sure. I mean we have like we have

879
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.920
like a bit of dark tourism up here, and of

880
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.800
course I I kind of play a part in that

881
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.559
because of what my role is and telling the stories

882
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.000
and the history of the place. We've had people there

883
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.519
here and established doing it. Like there's a ghost tour

884
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.400
that does the entire Bar Harbor circuit and seems like I'm.

885
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.880
Just looking at pictures, it seems like the perfect town

886
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:25.559
to do that in.

887
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.199
Oh it's so cool.

888
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:28.880
You got that.

889
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:34.480
Small downtown area you know, Oh yeah, heck yeah.

890
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:38.159
Old historic buildings and just like tons of history and

891
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.360
lots of local flavor. It's it's great for that stuff.

892
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.199
And that's why I think a lot of people just

893
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:47.360
love it and the people. It's funny how many people

894
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.599
I know that are interested in what we talk about

895
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.960
and stuff that come up here not knowing any of

896
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.800
that stuff, and then discover that stuff when they're here

897
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.840
and they're like, oh, holy shit, this is awesome. But

898
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.320
then I talk to other people from like other countries,

899
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.719
and they think the entire place is like a Stephen

900
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.679
King novel, right right, right, And I'm like, it's weird

901
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.039
that the people there here.

902
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.360
Lived in the state like he doesn't. He's not like

903
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.159
the mayor of the state or anything.

904
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.760
I mean, he's told some stories that have definitely like

905
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.079
been embedded in our culture.

906
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.280
Oh yeah, for sure.

907
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.199
I Mean a lot of his books are like straight

908
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.760
up you would if you know and you live in

909
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.599
the area, you know the place he's talking about, And

910
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:36.159
I got a kick out of it.

911
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:43.400
That's awesome. Well man, I mean, dude, it's one of

912
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.960
those places. I got to get up there again. I mean,

913
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:48.360
you know, it's not a hard sell to my wife,

914
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:52.719
so and going north is not.

915
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:54.039
So that would be cool.

916
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.159
We have if you're in the area between Bar Harbor

917
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.559
there on towards AUGUSTA and September, we're going to be

918
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.280
having a paranormal and horror convention. It's going to be

919
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.480
absolutely amazing that one.

920
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.159
I want to say September. Yeah, so tell us about that.

921
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.679
That one's going to be. That's huge. I've only this

922
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.519
is the first year they're putting it on, and it's

923
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.599
going to be I can't remember the name of the venue,

924
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.400
but they have some It's just such a mixed bag

925
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.679
of everything from paranormal people like people like John Zapfis

926
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:34.639
or the guys from the like horror writers and directors

927
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.880
and like actors and stuff. It's just going to be

928
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.519
like a really cool mixed bag that's going to be

929
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.159
going on I want to say two days in September.

930
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.000
I'm looking forward to that because this is the first

931
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.400
year they put it on, so we haven't had something

932
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.360
like that on that scale here in a long time.

933
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.719
Finding that these festivals and conferences are a good reason

934
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:58.239
to travel, yes, and I'm loving it, Like I'm like

935
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:03.320
already this year I'm going to Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee

936
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:05.159
for conferences.

937
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.519
What's the Pennsylvania one.

938
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:13.920
It's the Central PA Bigfoot Festival. Oh cool, Yeah, So

939
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:15.519
a friend of mine, what's that on?

940
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.480
So it's the third year of it, so I'm probably

941
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.880
gonna Yeah, the idea is maybe starting one in New York.

942
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.159
So I'm surprised New York doesn't have one.

943
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.559
No, well, like I don't know, maybe they do, but

944
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.280
I'm saying, well, there is over in like Whitehall, there's

945
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.559
a big foot festival over there, which is where you know,

946
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:45.000
on Lake Champlain, that whole area over and talk about history.

947
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.039
You know, you're not that far from Tykwonderoga in Lake Georgia.

948
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:54.519
And all of that. Yeah, so so.

949
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.159
Well, hey, you're in the New York region. Let me

950
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.159
ask you about one that came across my radar. Ask

951
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.199
me about recently, the cat Skills Chrone. Oh, you know,

952
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:05.719
I have heard that one.

953
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.880
I've heard of it, but I don't know anything about it,

954
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.159
you know what I mean obviously what a crone is, but.

955
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.199
I haven't really I haven't really looked into it. But

956
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:18.079
I'm writing it down.

957
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:21.840
Yeah, somebody, somebody put that on my radar a while ago.

958
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:25.119
Because I do research like all of New England. I

959
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.760
just I specialize in Maine and the weird ship up

960
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.039
here because honestly, I've got enough on the hands. But

961
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.400
I do. Yeah, the other stuff. But yeah, that one's

962
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:38.079
a weird one. It's it's got some really strange, strange

963
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:39.039
details to the case.

964
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:43.079
And my my wife was actually just down and she

965
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:50.800
was in uh Woodstock for the weekend. So that's sort

966
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.519
of in the cats Skills, not.

967
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.360
Quite, but kind of in the neighborhood.

968
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:59.559
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, holy moly.

969
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.199
Yeah, I've been. I mean, I've been through New York.

970
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.960
I haven't gotten to spend a lot of time there.

971
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.039
I was always more like Connecticut, Massachusetts where.

972
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:16.960
I said for sure, yes, so absolutely, I'm definitely Yeah.

973
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:23.800
So I've got that written down in September. All right, So.

974
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:31.039
Reverend again, reiterate where you can find you and.

975
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:36.039
Uh, basically on all the socials, I'm the same thing.

976
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:40.639
A Katie after Dark and YouTube would probably be the

977
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:44.400
most activity far as like content and everything. I put

978
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.320
the podcast episodes as well as the actual A Katia

979
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.880
after Dark show. We also do some shorts content stuff

980
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:54.719
like that. Currently in the process of writing a book,

981
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.119
so we'll see that pretty soon. That's starting up on

982
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:57.880
the socials.

983
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.239
Yeah, so when we get that done, I'll have you

984
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:02.639
back on and we'll talk about it.

985
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.360
Absolutely, man, I got plenty to talk about.

986
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.360
I'm sure awesome.

987
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:09.199
Well, hey, thanks for having me on.

988
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.599
Yeah, for sure, man, it's it's fun and you're talking

989
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.079
about you're speaking my language and one of my favorite

990
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.719
areas to hang out. So well I'll let you know

991
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:20.639
and we run our way.

992
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.159
Definitely do man, love to meet up. It's a great area.

993
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:26.760
I'm sure plenty to see.

994
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:30.880
Out here, for sure, Man, totally appreciate you coming on, and.

995
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.360
Well we'll do it again soon anytime.

996
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:38.599
But yeah, I got bad. Don't that make my mind scared?

997
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:40.639
Hold me hostage and they don't fight?

998
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:40.920
Fair?

999
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:42.119
Who don't pray for me?

1000
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.480
And white brough my tears? Who gonna save me?

1001
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.440
If you're not right here, move this darkness and make

1002
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.199
my sight clear. Take me your way because I don't

1003
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:50.920
like you.

1004
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:52.920
Go stop my past day. Feel in the night.

1005
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:57.760
Heare wake me up and trapped in my nightmass.

1006
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:22.239
Trapped in my nightmas.

1007
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:20.239
Trowning, trowning our mouth, the deeping apparitions of all my demons,

1008
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.480
all my thoughts are commiting treason, all alone.

1009
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.400
Go You're me screaming.

1010
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:30.079
Manifestations of my fierce regrets that stretched out for light years.

1011
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.559
You can almost touch the light homies, right there.

1012
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.800
Body free but tracting my nightmare.

1013
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:36.920
I don't let me ja.

1014
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:38.920
Our life is fad.

1015
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.840
All my life is faith, All my life is face

1016
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:44.360
and matter.

1017
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:48.840
Else Wait, I don't let me joy. My life is fading.

1018
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:53.000
My life is fading.

1019
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.199
We shot in my Nightmas

1020
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:06.199
Night