April 3, 2025

Into the Shadows: Amanda ‘The Bigfoot Lady’ Stowers and Her Chilling Encounters

Into the Shadows: Amanda ‘The Bigfoot Lady’ Stowers and Her Chilling Encounters
Into the Shadows: Amanda ‘The Bigfoot Lady’ Stowers and Her Chilling Encounters
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Into the Shadows: Amanda ‘The Bigfoot Lady’ Stowers and Her Chilling Encounters

In this gripping episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with Amanda “The Bigfoot Lady” Stowers—an employee at the Expedition Bigfoot Museum in Georgia and a lifelong experiencer of the unexplained. Amanda shares not one, but two terrifying Bigfoot...

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In this gripping episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we sit down with Amanda “The Bigfoot Lady” Stowers—an employee at the Expedition Bigfoot Museum in Georgia and a lifelong experiencer of the unexplained. Amanda shares not one, but two terrifying Bigfoot encounters that shook her to the core during her youth. These weren’t secondhand stories—they were raw, real, and forever changed her view of the world. With a deep passion for cryptid research and firsthand experience that fuels her work, Amanda pulls back the curtain on what it’s like to live with the knowledge that something is out there. From eerie forest moments to bone-chilling sounds in the night, this is a conversation you won't want to miss. Strap in, keep your flashlight close, and prepare to venture deep into the unknown.

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All right, we are live.

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Amanda Stours the Bigfoot Lady. Tell us who you are.

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I just told him who you are, but tell us

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what you do.

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So, yes, my name is Amanda Stowers. I go by

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Amanda the Bigfoot Lady on all my social media. And

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I happen to have the best job in the world

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and that I'm a museum interpreter at Expedition Bigfoot, the

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Sasquatch Museum in Blue Ridge, Georgia.

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Goodness, that's amazing. So how does one get this job?

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Divine intervention and a lot of luck. I happened to

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live in the area. I was born and raised here

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in the North Georgia Mountains, and David Mcera opened the

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museum there in Blue Ridge, Georgia in twenty sixteen, and

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they put out a position opening in twenty nineteen. I applied,

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went in for the interview. We hit it off right

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away and I haven't looked back since.

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Wow.

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So, I mean, do you have like training, do you

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have like a background in this or yes?

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And yes and no.

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So technically yes, there's a little bit of training that

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was involved. You know. I had to learn, you know,

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how to turn everything on the processes of just running

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the day to day stuff because there's a lot of

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retail involved, interacting with the customers who come in, keeping

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the museum up and running. But I had actually met

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David Pryor to me working there probably a year or so.

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I went in and visited the museum.

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I've wasn't all too sure about it when I first

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saw it, because this area is growing up a lot

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with tourism, and I was quite worried that, you know,

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it's gonna be something really corny, something hokey, you know.

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So I saw a chance to go in there.

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Uh.

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They actually had mister Bob Gimlin come in there and

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was a visiting speaker there one time, and I realized

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that that was the mister Gimlin from the Patterson Gimlin film.

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And having been in Bigfoot for most of my life

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on top of having you know, my own personal experiences,

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I was just like, oh, snap, Okay, this guy's getting

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kind of on up there in age. So getting a

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chance to actually see him and meet him, how cool

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would that be to have that opportunity. So I went

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in there, got to meet mister Gimlin, spoke to him,

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and I also got to meet David the owner curator

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of the museum, and I shared with him that day

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my Bigfoot experiences and we kind of half kept in

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touch between us, you know, Facebook and things like that,

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and then I always followed the museum through Facebook as well,

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and then that's where they posted the position again.

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Jumped on that.

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I was like, how cool would that be to actually

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work somewhere like that, And I said, I started there

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in twenty nineteen. I had the great pleasure of working

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there with Sybylla Irwin for a little while. For those

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in the Bigfoot community she might be familiar with her.

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She is an amazing woman and she does witness sketches

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for a lot of the people who witness different cryptid creatures.

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She puts her art talents into that, and yeah, working

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with her for those two weeks was amazing. And then

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of course working with David every day there for a

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little while. It was a lot of fun because you

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could actually sit and literally talk bigfoot and conspiracies and

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everything like that all day.

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Long, all the things, and.

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The business has grown.

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Unfortunately, I had to leave for a little while when

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the pandemic happened because my hubby unfortunately lost his job

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during that time, so we actually moved out of state

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for a little while and I got to come back

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in at the very beginning of twenty twenty three. So

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I've been back again now almost two years. So all

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in total, i've been there about three years.

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Now, right, Wow, what a job that's like.

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Yeah, I'm sure you have stories?

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Right?

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Oh the Lord, could I tell you stories?

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We could go on for hours?

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Well the one so I'm pretty sure I know your answer.

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But the one question I ask everybody is what got

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you into this crazy, high strangeness, cryptid world. You know,

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what was your gateway drug.

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Into this My I guess my gateway drug would actually

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be not be as common as what people would would

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think most people would think, you know, have and experience

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would be, which it is. And I'll get into that

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as we as we go. But I actually grew up

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here again, like I said, in North Georgia, and my

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family was actually very into a lot of the what's

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the words I'm looking for stuff. On the other side,

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my family was very in tune with the Christian Church,

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and they were actually instead of shutting away from stuff

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like you know, oh, you know, they don't a lot

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of churches and stuff don't bring up the devil as

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much as they do. It was the exact opposite for them.

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You know, the devil was very real. He prowls in

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the night. You know, there are things that go bump

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in the night that you need to watch out for.

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They talked about ghosts, and several of my family members

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were very spiritually attuned to where they could see things,

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have visions and things. And I actually inherited some of that,

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and so I said, I was kind of delved into

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this stuff my entire life. And then whenever I was fifteen,

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I had my friend bigfoot encounter. And yeah, it's just

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been It's been an interesting life, that's for sure, even

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in just my young age.

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Gotcha.

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So grew up in the church, so it was obviously

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a supernatural like because a lot of churches they don't

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focus on the supernatural in the in the Bible, right.

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They agreed, they shun it or they shy away from it.

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I mean, if nothing the basis is supernatural exactly exactly.

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I mean, we we worship and we glorify a supernatural God.

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So how can you not believe in the supernatural? Else

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that is that's out there?

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Right for sure?

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Agreed and too often, you know, it just they It

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doesn't make any sense to me. But yeah, I guess

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whatever people have to do to get through.

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Right exactly exactly.

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And it doesn't mean they're wrong or that they're just they.

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I don't think they get the full monty, the full

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aspect of of you know that they don't get all

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the word that way.

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Yeah, And it's and I tell and I use those

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saying as well a lot that you know, it's between

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them and the Lord. It's their relationship that they have.

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You know. God obviously put me in a relationship where.

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I know all the stuff right, and some others not

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not quite so much.

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But the basis is still there, you.

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Know, absolutely, So talk to me about your first big

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foot sasquatch?

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What do you what? What do you like to use?

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What term?

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I don't care I use, I use them back and

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forth all the time, so it doesn't matter to me.

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But yeah, I was the first go ahead.

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Yeah, So my first encounter was in two thousand and one.

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I would have been about fifteen years old at the time.

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And my again, my family grew up here in these bouncers.

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Some of the first.

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English settler excuse me English Irish Scotch Irish settlers to

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the area. I don't want to say white settlers. That

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just sounds fun wrong, right right, Yeah, there were some.

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Of the first white settlers here.

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Anyway, I mentioned say that because I'm trying to paint

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a picture. The family property that we were on that

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particular day had been in my family for almost probably

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two hundred years as of today at twenty twenty five,

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and my father and my uncle we were working that

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property that day and chopping up some old trees for

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firewood because that was our only source of heat. And

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my uncle he had just remarried and he now had

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a stepdaughter who would be our new cousin. And it

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was me and my eldest brother, who he's actually younger

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than me. I'm the oldest of four siblings. I'm the

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only girl. So anyhow, my oldest brother and my new

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cousin and us were all out there helping them that day,

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and they told us kids to go take a break

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for a little while. So my brother and I had

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the idea excuse me to go and take our new

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cousin over to what we referred to as the carving Tree,

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is a giant oak tree that's on the back side

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of the property where family over all the generations had

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taken the time and carved their initials into this tree.

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So we're like, yeah, she's part of the family, now

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let's go have her do that. So we went across

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the hay field and it's probably two one or two

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football field length wise long away from where we were

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at where my dad and uncle were, and the hay

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was really tall, so it probably would have been you know,

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up up to my waist area tall. And again painting

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a picture for you guys, and you'll fix see why

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in a minute. So we got to the carving tree.

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We were doing our thing. You know, I think I'd

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found where i'd put mine preabiliously and was you know,

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adjusting it.

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And so I was up on there was this giant

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rock that this tree kind of grew up next to,

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and I was up on top of the rock.

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up above from the lower part of the ground because

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we were on the literally on the side of this mountains.

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It's really steep hill up behind me, and so my

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brother and my cousin were down below me on the

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bottom and I was up on top of the rock.

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And I was looking down at them, so my back

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was to the backside of the mountain side, and again

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my brother just looks at me. All of a sudden,

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he's like, Amanda, we need to get out of here.

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We need to go. And I'm like, no, we'll go

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in a minute. We're almost done.

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And he's like, no, we need to go right now,

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and he flips out his pocket knife and takes off running.

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And Kelsey, our cousin, she's running two and I was like, oh, snap,

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if they're running, I should probably be running too, And

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so I jumped down off the rock and they're ahead

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of me by probably, you know, ten fifteen feet. They

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get to the tree line before I do. Whenever I

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get to the tree line, they're already in the hay

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and they're hauling butt. They're gone, and you know, if

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they're running again, I'm running real fast. So as soon

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as I get to that tree line to the hayfield

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right there, whatever my brother had saw was the it

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let out the most god awful loud roar, owl scream.

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I'm not sure what to call it, but it was

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the loudest yell that I've ever heard in my entire life.

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And it was so loud that it almost it knocked

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me down, almost to my knees. I was catching myself

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as I'm running, put my hands over my ears, and

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I look up in that and I'm seeing my brother

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and my cousin running through the hay and all the

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birds are run it are fluttering.

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Up out of the hay.

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So that's why I painted that picture so much, because

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that's the image that's burned into my head, is my

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brother and cousin running and those birds flying up as

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this roar sound is enveloping me. And so I get

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get get up on my feet. I catch myself and

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I'm running. I eventually catch up up with them. I'm like,

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what is going on?

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What is that? What was that? My brother's like, I

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think he was freaking bigfoot, Like are you freaking kidding here?

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But I believed him. I believed him what he said.

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We got up to.

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My dad and my uncle and they were saw you know,

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we were kind of flustered, you know, what's going on

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with you kids? And my brother told him what he

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saw and he's like, oh, you kids, y'all doesn't run

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into the booger, didn't you.

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They just kind of.

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Laughed about it, and we're like, wait a minute. And so.

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We'd heard a story my entire life of a booger

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being on that property. And you'll hear a lot of

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people say booger for for big for bigger, Yeah, where

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come from? I think it's a play on the word boogieman,

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or that's just my thought, because down here we also

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have boogers and haints and haint is an Appalachian twist

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on the word haunt, and so instead of a ghosts,

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you say haints. And so we had always heard that

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there was a booker on that property, and we had

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I had honestly assumed that it was a ghost.

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I had always heard.

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From my grandma, who again we told the same story

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to what we ran into, and she said the exact

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same thing. Oh, you kids done ran into the uncle

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Krhmb's booger, didn't you. So we had heard my whole

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life that my uncle, great uncle Kerm in the forties

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or fifties had to run in with the booger and

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he would never go back to that property ever, he

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was absolutely terractic would go back. So I'd always assumed

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it was a ghost because we have, you know, a

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lot of Civil War history, a lot of Native American history.

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So for whatever reason, in my mind, I had pictured

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of this being like this, you know, super creepy ghost

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or something. No, it was apparently it was a big foot.

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So my brother finally, you know, he told me what

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he saw. He said, behind me up on the mountain ridge.

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I'm terrible with distance, but it was close enough to

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where he could, you know, he could very very distinctly

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make out what it was. He said, it was up

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behind me on the ridge and it was leaning out

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from around a tree. It had one arm up on

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the tree kind of like this, and the other out

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by its side. Because he could see the one arm

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very clearly. It went down past sneeze it was. This

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was in the middle of the day, so he could

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see the hair color really good. It was, you know,

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a dark, rusty brown, kind of blackish gray skin. He

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said that there wasn't a lot of hair on the face.

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But the face, even though it was you know, human instructure,

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he said, it had a very monkey like face, kind

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of like a chimpanzee or like you know, George curious George, Yeah,

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kind of little face. But he said what terrified him

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the most about it was the red eyes that it had,

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and it.

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Wasn't just like shining red.

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It was actually emitting its own light because this is

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bright daytime, so you know, we didn't have like flashlights

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or anything like that were shining on it. No, it

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was emitting its own light. And another interesting tidbit about

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this particular encounter that I didn't learn about until this

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past year, life and stuff happened. So my brother and

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I we hadn't got to talk for a while, and

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this past Christmas I got we sat down. I'm like, hey, brother,

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you know I'm sharing this story a whole lot more,

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especially because I was working at the museum and now

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I've got people wanted me to get on podcasts and

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stuff like that. I just want to make sure that

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I have all my ducks in a row that you

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know what I am remembering, and what I'm telling is

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what the same thing that you remember from that day.

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So I was telling him that this is the one

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thing that I remember the most about that particular incident

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was the roar because I didn't see it. I just

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heard it. And he's like, Amanda, I didn't hear a thing.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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Wow. So looking back.

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On it now and having been in the big footing,

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I guess for a while makes me wonder like did

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I get zapped?

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Did it mine? Speak it to me or something? I

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don't know.

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What about your cousin, do you know?

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I wouldn't be able to talk to her.

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I haven't talked to her in probably twenty years or

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so she went off to college. No, it's fine, Yeah, no,

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I agree. I would love to talk to her again

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and see if she remembers anything about it. But yeah,

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since college and stuff, I haven't talked to her until

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probably twenty years or so.

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But that so the scream yell whatever, Yeah, but whatever, noise,

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the noise, right, I had an incident, yeah, like two

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years ago, very similar. I don't the incident wasn't similar,

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But that sound, yes, where you literally can feel it too,

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and it's just like it's high pitched but yet not

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it's like, yeah.

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A lot of covers the whole range. And that seems really.

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A lot of people's experience is that that type of

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scream yell how whatever you want to call it, it

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like is widen vocal range and yet you can feel it.

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So exactly exactly, And I definitely distinctly remember it coming

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from behind me, and and you just said, all encompassing

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just hit me, like just almost shook me. The only

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other thing I can describe it similar to you that

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the shaking almost was my hobby.

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He me too, actually like to.

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Go to a lot of heavy metal concerts and so

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if you're ever right there next to the speakers, you know, yeah,

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it's almost blowing it out, you can feel it. Any

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that was how that was how it reminds me of

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is just that all encompassing sound, just everything out.

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Do you think you know how close it was when

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it let that out?

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Or was it and you weren't maybe able to tell?

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I honestly, I honestly don't know. I know that my

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brother said it was probably, you know, fifty yards from

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where where we were at whenever he saw it, and

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it was close enough to where he could distinctly tell

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that it was really tall. It was taller than our dad,

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and he's six foot three, so he's a tall man

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as well. But you don't remember hearing it, like, no,

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I don't remember hearing it move or anything.

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Gotcha all right? Yeah? Wow?

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So yeah, that's that's my my my first big foot

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and experience. I see, I've seen other things, a lot

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of things in my life, everything from angels to demons

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to ghost I've saw a dire wolf, I've seen something

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that resembled a pterodactyl, and I've seen another creature that

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I refer to as the bear skin rug creature. And

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I'm wondering now if it wasn't a sasquatch type being.

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And that definitely goes more into the the paranormal supernatural,

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right these things have so.

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All right, maybe you can help me with this.

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Well, first off, the red eyes, Yes, what is that? Like,

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I've never all right, so I've had two encounters. I

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never saw them. What the heck?

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That was bizarre?

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Red balloons reactions, but like.

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What the heck? That was really weird. I didn't touch anything.

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Oh see, this is stuff happens like weird things shut off.

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Oh yeah.

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Anyway, two encounters where I could see heads right, heads

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and shoulders but silhouetted, and the incidents were almost identical.

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But one happened in Illinois, the other one happened in Alaska.

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So like you know, but I couldn't see features, I

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couldn't see eyes. Now I've heard about this red eye

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like like the like self omitting light. How much have

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you heard about that? I haven't heard like a ton,

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but from time to time you'll hear about it, and

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I'm wondering, what the heck.

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Yeah, hear in reports that I get from people quite often.

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I would say probably honestly fifty to fifty out of

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reports that I get from people, it being, you know,

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something that they remember about the incident if they get

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a full visual look at the creature or any cryptid

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for that matter. You know, I have taken some dog

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Man reports and they remember the glowing red eyes, and

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you hear about that in moth manon types. So that's

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part of its character, is the blazing red eyes. And

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it's interesting because you hear it from some witnesses and

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you hear it not from others. So I don't know

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if it's a specific attribute that they have or if

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it's something like us where they maybe it's a I

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hate to use the word power, but it's a power

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that maybe one has that you know another doesn't. Or

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is it like you know, you talk about like the

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aliens and stuff. Is it different type where they have

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their abilities than the other. Because my mom interestingly talked

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to somebody, and I forget which tribe they were a

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feeling with. They were either Cherokee or Creek, which is

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are the two big ones down here in our area.

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And they specifically told her that the ones with the

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red eyes are the ones you have to watch out for,

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they said. And uh, it was really interesting because you

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hear a lot of Native tribes talk about, you know,

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Bigfoot in some of them they're you know, big brother,

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you know, the friend of the forest. And then you

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have others who are like, you know, these are tricksters.

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These are monsters. You know, you stay away from them,

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you don't associate with them. So I thought that was

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a very interesting thing. And my mom again wishes that

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she could remember all that was said to her about I.

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Mean, multiple tribes have lore about actually wars exactly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's one of the most famous encounters that I

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just didn't.

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Have an episode about that a little while ago, and

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that was fascinating.

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The research for that, it was awesome. But so all right,

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so we talk about types. Okay, so I and I

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just literally wrote red eye types.

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But what what is Some people say there's as many

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as ten to twelve.

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Some people say there's four. You know what I mean.

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Of sasquatch, right, and and I wonder also about bleed

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over between bigfoot and dog man, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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it's actually do man a type of sasquatch, maybe more

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like a baboon type.

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Yeah, I mean if you think.

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About yeah, no, I'm actually I'm actually in the same

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same mindset there as well.

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Now, I undred percent believe that there.

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Are creatures out there that are one hundred spent what

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would be classify a dog man, and those are probably

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what people would call the class three ones, which are

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like the you know, the the backwards legs. It looks

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like what you picture when you see where that's what

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you see. And seeing some witness sketches that Sibylla has

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done of different people who have seen dog Bando, they

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actually do.

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They they're very canied in their looks.

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But then again, there's a lot of sasquatches that have

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a lot of the like the baboon look to them.

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They have a very distinct muzzle sharp pie they're calling

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I can't remember off the top of my head either.

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Yeah, there's a yeah, I mean, I'm I'm the big

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foot lady, and I'm not PreCure.

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What is it like? Class one is like your classic.

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Your classic Patty type, yes.

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Type, and then two is more neanderthal ish, right I think,

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And then threes.

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I feel like they're the ones that are more like baboon.

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A lot of us think so as well. I could

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be wrong, long.

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Canine stuff like that, so that would be like the

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ones that you might get mixed up. And then the fours, gosh,

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I think they were also more like man man like

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or like skunk ape andish. I can't remember either way,

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but like I think, I'm I'm pretty sure skunk ape

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is its own distinct.

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There's a possibility. I mean, there's so many different theories,

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and nobody has all the answers to these things. And

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if you're looking at these exactly, if you're looking at

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these things as a as a great ape, as you know,

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just a big monkey in the woods for lack of

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better terminology, I use the analogy of bears, which a

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lot of other bigfooters will use the analogy for for bears.

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With these things so down here in the southeast, you know,

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we just have our little small black bears.

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You know, they're still.

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A bear, but they're a lot smaller compared to their cousins,

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you know, the grizzly bear over in the Rockies, and

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then the grizzlies are even small compared to polar bears.

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In the Great North. So and then you can also have.

468
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Deers who are even though they're all deer and you're

469
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:25.160
just looking at oh, that's a deer, but once you

470
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.960
look at it, you're like, oh, wait, no, that's a white tail.

471
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.119
Oh wait no, that's a mule deer. You know, there's

472
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.599
a little bit of differences with them. So I think

473
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.039
and then in the same way that people, we all

474
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.720
are different. You know, somebody in Asia is going to

475
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.480
look completely different from somebody you know, from from Africa

476
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.839
or from Scandinavia. So I think that these these creatures

477
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:50.920
can pick up attributes based on their location. But if

478
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:55.240
you go into other thoughts and theories on it, you know,

479
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.240
they could be whatever they want. If you're getting into

480
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.799
you know, their they're aliens, nephelom and anything like that,

481
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.720
which I definitely lean more towards that.

482
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.960
Yeah, and I love it.

483
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.039
You know, I try not to like put too much

484
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.960
into one camp or the other. I just go out

485
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.319
whenever we go, and we go out researching quite a bit.

486
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.799
I mean, we have an area here where we go,

487
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.680
me and a buddy of mine, and you know, we

488
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.839
get some action period. That's all there is to it.

489
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:35.480
But I just can't. I can't take either one. I

490
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.200
just won't take the side. I think you're naive if

491
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.559
you do. I think it's like we were talking about

492
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:48.039
with the church. Some churches want to live in this

493
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.079
little box and some churches don't. They want to, they

494
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:54.759
want to. You know. I was talking in an interview

495
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.440
the other night where I was like, if they made

496
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:02.799
the Bible into a movie, I mean, it couldn't be

497
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.599
just one movie, like it would be like Lord of

498
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.920
the Rings on steroids.

499
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:09.319
Right or like.

500
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:16.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah seriously, And uh, I always loved the

501
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:19.680
and I've got to post it. I was gonna do

502
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:24.279
it with uh. I've got to post this TikTok that

503
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.200
I found that had like what they want you to

504
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.480
believe the Bible was, and it was like Jesus on

505
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.680
rock and preaching to everyone. And then they go, but

506
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.640
what the Bible really is? And then it flips and

507
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.319
it goes to like like a Clash of the Titans

508
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.079
type thing with like hard heavy metal.

509
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.000
You know what I'm talking about.

510
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:50.920
I think another podcast Blurry Creatures something similar to that.

511
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.680
Ye did that and that was amazing, and I'm like

512
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:58.200
it was I'm.

513
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.480
Just c so I just can't do this same thing.

514
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:05.000
I have to be so open minded with Bigfoot.

515
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.759
But uh, I don't know where the hell I was

516
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:07.319
going with this.

517
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:19.640
Basically, Yeah, I'm you know, I mean there's uh who knows.

518
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.079
I mean, there's people that talk about mind speak and

519
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.480
that that these things will tell them exactly what they are,

520
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.279
and that they're eliud or you know whatever, you know,

521
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.119
use whatever term you want, and they're like seeking salvation

522
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.559
and all these different things. And and just like you

523
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.039
were talking about the red eyes and some oh those

524
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:45.880
are the bad ones and these but yeah, so so

525
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.799
the different types of them. I I I agree with

526
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.440
you on that. It's that I think because I can

527
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:58.200
tell you that the now obviously, the one that I

528
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.319
had in a counter with in the lat was massive.

529
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.599
It was absolutely it was like the Hulk Man. It

530
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.079
was that bad. It was monster speaking of him.

531
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:10.359
See you.

532
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:12.480
It was massive.

533
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.720
And we could hear a lot from other witnesses, especially

534
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.839
in Alaska, monsters sizes they can get well, they you know.

535
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.720
So I have a friend who calls them the boreals sasquatches,

536
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.319
and it's kind of a fitting term because they're just

537
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.880
you know, those boreal forests that they're they're huge and bad.

538
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:39.359
But this thing you could just feel how big it was.

539
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.079
It'd be like you're standing next like an elephant at

540
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:46.279
the zoo or whatever. Yeah, there's a presence there, right,

541
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.400
and that's how this was. It was just massive, so

542
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.119
it had to have been a thousand pounds animals.

543
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.400
It definitely makes you realize that you're not the highest

544
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:57.799
thing on the food chain right there.

545
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.319
You are not there's thing and it wasn't a bear,

546
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:07.240
and I can tell you that for sure. But yeah, wow,

547
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:14.680
so north North Georgia, Yes, sir, how much sasquatch? I mean,

548
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.799
so that's the mountains pretty much, right, So you're getting

549
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.279
down into the bottom of the apple Lich Appalachians.

550
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:23.799
Hence the bugger name.

551
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:24.599
Yep.

552
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.000
That kind of goes just the whole apple Ache part.

553
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:36.559
Other like notable encounters that you that either you've had

554
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.240
or family members have had.

555
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.920
Can you have through a couple of those?

556
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.440
Yeah, I don't know the full details, but you know,

557
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.799
I did mention that you know, my would be my

558
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.519
great ancle, my grandmother's uncle. He you know, saw this

559
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.720
what could be the same creature, I don't know, or

560
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:59.079
family member, but in the same area. But yeah, there

561
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:06.119
are several other notable encounters in North Georgia. I'm trying

562
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.960
to think of any off the top of my head. Surprisingly,

563
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.599
there's actually a really cool report that I've found in

564
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.440
a newspaper article that I'm actually digging into and might

565
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.160
to be part of my presentation at my conference I'm

566
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.680
speaking at out of Fannin County, which is directly next

567
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.839
door to where we are, and it's all part of

568
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.920
the little this little area of North Georgia, and it

569
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.319
would have been in the late eighteen hundreds. It talks

570
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.119
about a bigfoot that came through the area and there

571
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:41.279
was actually a death involved wow in it. So I'm

572
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.119
trying to do a little bit of digging to that

573
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.880
and see what comes of it. And there's also a

574
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.480
lot of reports in some of those old articles that

575
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:56.000
I found as well from the Lookout Mountain part of

576
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:01.200
Georgia and Tennessee here, so they Lookout Mountain area just

577
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.599
like the Blue Ridge Mountains, you know, encompasses a very

578
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:09.400
large area. So there was quite a spread of noted

579
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.079
sightings in a lot of old articles and stuff that

580
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.559
again I'm looking into currently, and it's just it's so

581
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.599
fascinating to when you go back in time and looking

582
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.920
at some of these things and you know, realizing that

583
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:27.440
this isn't a recent phenomenon stuff, this goes back for generations.

584
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.920
But years actually exactly.

585
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:33.119
Yeah, especially when you start considering somebod you know, the

586
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.599
Native American traditions, the petroglyphs that go back with it,

587
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.319
and if you really want to get weird, look into

588
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.920
some of the wild man stories and legends over in

589
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:49.279
Europe in the UK. So those are all also very

590
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.599
very similar to some of our Bigfoot reports and attributes

591
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.480
and sightings here in the US. On top of digging

592
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.039
into the Yeti and other notable ones.

593
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:07.440
Kid well, the Native Americans literally and almost every tribe

594
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.679
has a story. I can't think of one, like, I

595
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.360
can't think of one off the top of my head.

596
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.719
That doesn't you know what I mean.

597
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.880
I mean, you've got the Algonquins, You've got the which

598
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.519
is a wide range of people, right and then like

599
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.719
where I live, it's all Iroquois. So they have stories

600
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:36.119
of like stone giants, but their bigfoot I mean really yeah,

601
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.760
if you dig into it. But again, they have different

602
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.599
stories and they're doing it's almost like they it almost

603
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.400
like they were stone because they were like caking themselves

604
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:49.039
with mud.

605
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:55.400
Interesting right as yeah, something else, almost like armor because

606
00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.079
just from my interpretation that these things were so so

607
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.719
strong that trying to attack them or you know, spear

608
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.599
them or shoot or anything like that, Like you hear

609
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.400
people who shoot them nowadays and the bullet doesn't do anything.

610
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.400
So what how would you describe that, you know back then?

611
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.000
Is that they're made of stone?

612
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.159
Yeah, right, impenetrable?

613
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:23.480
Yeah, absolutely. I also heard a really good theory.

614
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.960
I don't know if you've heard this, but it talks

615
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:33.320
about genetic variation, right, yes, in bigfoot across North America

616
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.800
and how I.

617
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.519
Mean we're talking flesh and blood.

618
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.280
Now right, right, that's okay, but how.

619
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.639
They are susceptible to some of the same diseases that

620
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:49.920
we are. And when the white Man, when the White

621
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:55.280
Man came to the New World basically using smallpox and

622
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:01.239
other uh uh illnesses this chemical weapon. It's frankly right

623
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.760
that there is also a rash of that it got

624
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.599
into the Sasquash population too, and so now you have

625
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:16.199
all this genetic variation because you have mutations, and and

626
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.599
then you also because of population density, because you from

627
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.840
the native stories, you literally hear of tribes of these

628
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.039
things like way more than we have now, right, and

629
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.440
that literally they would have like you know, villages and stuff, right,

630
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.039
and now we have so few less because of it.

631
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.480
They were basically wiped out the same way that some

632
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:44.840
of the Indian tribes were.

633
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.079
And that you have too much inbreeding.

634
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:57.760
Yeah, especially the inbreeding theory. That's some that a lot

635
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.280
of people that put out there, and it again, it

636
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.480
is a very interesting, interesting theory.

637
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:04.239
I don't know why.

638
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:05.760
It is just something that popped in my head while

639
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:06.960
you were you were sharing that.

640
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:07.840
Uh.

641
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.000
An interesting attribute of some of the Sasquatches that are

642
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.679
reported in like in California and the the Deep West

643
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.079
Coast area. Besides obviously you know the patty you know,

644
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.599
bodies and stuff, but it's there they're facing their eyes,

645
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:30.280
and you hear stories of sasquatches kidnapping people, you know,

646
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.599
children and things like that. But an interesting thing that

647
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:38.239
somebody pointed out is that, uh, there's some reports of

648
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.159
them over here on the East coast of them having

649
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.079
blue eyes and just like with some native austeritas, which

650
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.000
is a whole other rabbit hole. But over in on

651
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:53.920
the West coast for a while, they unfortunately used you know,

652
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.239
Chinese labor over there to help build a lot of

653
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.159
the railroads and the underground and everything. So a lot

654
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.159
of some of the sasquatches that are reported over there

655
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.679
are described to actually have slanted eyes, very you know,

656
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.440
Asian looking features too well, and I find that just

657
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:13.559
absolutely fascinating.

658
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.559
It is you're right, and I've heard the same type

659
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:20.519
of thing, and it's but see, like then we get

660
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:25.760
into red eyes, we get into black eyes, yes, which

661
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:27.280
that's terrifying.

662
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:28.719
That is absolutely terrifying.

663
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:36.119
Yes, so that is terrifying, like the black eyes.

664
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:40.920
And I don't I don't even know what that I

665
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.119
mean other than like demon ye alien.

666
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.000
You always remember the scene from Jaws where they're talking

667
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.199
about the sharks like you're like a.

668
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.079
Doll's eyes and black eyes.

669
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.000
And yeah, the the other thing that I saw it

670
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.760
had eyes similar to that where it was almost like

671
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.400
a marble, you know, it didn't really have pupils or anything.

672
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.440
It was just soulless and.

673
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:12.360
So I am attributing this thing to possibly being a

674
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.960
Bigfoot now, and I refer to it as the bear

675
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.239
skin rug creature because as a kid, that was the

676
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.639
only thing that it looked like at the time. So

677
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.920
very similar would be probably around the same time frame

678
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:31.800
when the other incident happened. And unfortunately, I hate to

679
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.599
say that I don't have a good memory of it,

680
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:38.679
which again doesn't what's the word I'm looking for, build

681
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.280
a lot of credibility to the report.

682
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.519
But that's okay, But before you go, this is something

683
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.280
that happens to a lot of people exactly.

684
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.280
That is very true sometimes.

685
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.480
Yeah, And I attributed that because I had so many

686
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.320
supernatural and paranormal experiences in my life.

687
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:58.800
You were just overwhelmed.

688
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.719
I was just like I I did.

689
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.480
I literally I filed it in the back of my

690
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.920
head and didn't think about it for a long time.

691
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:09.039
And it wasn't actually until I started working back at

692
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:14.079
Expedition Bigfoot and somebody was talking to me once and

693
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:19.119
something that they were describing sounded very similar to this thing,

694
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.239
and it brought that memory back like a wave, and

695
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.400
I had like almost like you know, a repressed memory

696
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:26.559
sitting around there for a while.

697
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:27.360
It was just, you know, I couldn't.

698
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.039
This is very common, it is so.

699
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.599
What I saw again. I was with my brothers. We

700
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:36.920
were at my mom and dad's house, which wouldn't be

701
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.599
very far from the property that we was in the

702
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.960
original story I shared, and we just again being kids,

703
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.320
everybody was over at our house. We had a little

704
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:53.079
fort area right there in the woods. And it was fall.

705
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.960
I remember because the leaves were very crunchy, and it

706
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.480
was very bright, and so the leaves were very fresh

707
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.639
on the ground, so they had a lot of I'm

708
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.039
still you know, just that bright brown orange. And again

709
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.760
I have a very visual memory, so I try to

710
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.360
paint pictures for you. My brothers and the neighbor kids

711
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.079
and everything were jumping down to hop and get on

712
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:16.079
their bicycles, and I hear something, you know, coming up

713
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.840
really fast, kind of behind me, like a into the

714
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:21.960
leaves real quick, and so I will turn around, expecting

715
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.360
to see a deer or something, and instead I turn

716
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.239
around and there's this thing that flopped flop down on

717
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.679
the ground like this, flat out on its belly, arms

718
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.840
stretched out beside it, and its.

719
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:35.880
Head's laid down like this.

720
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:37.960
Because you know, It's laid flat on the ground, but

721
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.079
its mouth is open, and I'm looking at this thing

722
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.800
and it's all happens in a split second. I'm looking

723
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.119
at this thing and this guy's mouth open. It has

724
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.760
soulless eyes, they're kind of sunk back in there had

725
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.679
a very very prominent brow, and hair that kind of

726
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.960
started right there and you know, came on back, went

727
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.199
down its back, not like a head of hair like mine,

728
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.360
but you know, fur, and once it got to about

729
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.519
the waist, it just kind of blended in like it

730
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.440
was almost invisible. It blended in perfectly with the leaves,

731
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.639
and I couldn't see the hands or the arms because

732
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.280
they were behind two trees. It was perfectly stuck right

733
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.320
there between those trees trees. It was just like I'd

734
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.719
caught it, just frozen, just but it was laid flat.

735
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:26.000
On the ground.

736
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.599
And my brothers and the other kids said again, like

737
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.079
come on, Amanda, let's go. So I turn to look

738
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.039
at them. I look back, and that sucker is gone.

739
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.639
It just disappeared that quick. And I think that's one

740
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.239
of the reasons why I filed it in the back

741
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.280
of my mind, is that, you know, it just happened

742
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:45.360
so quick. I was like, you know, I kind of

743
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.559
questioned myself, you know, did I really see this thing?

744
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.239
So I just filed it in the back of my mind.

745
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.679
And when that memory came back to me so strongly,

746
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.480
it messed me for a while because I kept seeing

747
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.880
this thing over and over again, you know, in my dreams.

748
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.440
And goes, like I really saw that. Like what was

749
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:03.440
that thing? You know?

750
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.239
Was it a demon or was it a creature? Was

751
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:09.800
it some kind of unknown cryptid?

752
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.440
Was it sasquatch? You know, I don't know.

753
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.880
I attributed it to sasquatch just because of the facial

754
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.559
structure that it had. It wasn't a bear, and it

755
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.360
wasn't a monkey, It wasn't a person. It was like

756
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.039
it was that all three of those things combined into one,

757
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:29.280
because it did have a slight muzzle to it, and

758
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.320
it didn't have sharp teeth that I could see, you know,

759
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.920
it's just very flat, dark, ugly you know, black teeth,

760
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.599
like you know, teeth that are just really really ugly,

761
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:41.920
and the inside of the mouth was kind of like

762
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.599
a really dark black kind of like a chow dog.

763
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:45.440
Yeah, black.

764
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.559
So yeah, I just what I call it. I call

765
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.480
it the bear skin rud creature because I don't know

766
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:52.360
what else to call it.

767
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.679
Yeah, no, I mean it sounds like a sasquatch. It

768
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:56.840
just didn't camouflage itself fast.

769
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.679
Enough fast like I caught it too quick or something.

770
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.960
Yeah. That's crazy. Wow, that's intense. How old are you?

771
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.679
I would have been in my teens as well. I

772
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:08.719
want to say it probably would have been around the

773
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.519
same time as the other encounter, so I would have

774
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.320
been in my early teens. It was during that time

775
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.039
of my life that a lot of the paranoral activity

776
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.280
was really ramping up around my parents' house, so it

777
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:22.880
would have been around that time period.

778
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.079
We can talk about some of that too, but I

779
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:30.079
would have one more, well, not one more, very good

780
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:36.039
the next question. So we're talking about types again. We've

781
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.400
talked about this bearskin rugs.

782
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:39.639
Right, this is.

783
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.400
Awesome, I mean, but it makes complete sense to me

784
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:48.199
because they have to be masters of camouflage.

785
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.320
Exactly, and so many stories are I have anyways, and

786
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.239
you probably have as well of these things, you know,

787
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.000
literally turning invisible like the predator, like straight straight predator. Yeah.

788
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.960
Why have you seen the recent footage of the one

789
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.880
where they literally have like it looks like a predator.

790
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:10.119
There's a couple of them.

791
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:11.920
There's a couple of them out there.

792
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.920
And who knows if it's legit, but.

793
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.800
Yeah, I like some of the older ones before you know,

794
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:23.320
photoshop and before AI and everything. There's one that's really

795
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.360
notable out there, and it's kind of hard to see

796
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:29.239
because it's so far away from the camera, but you

797
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.519
see this. You don't see it until it moves, of

798
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.599
this thing dropping down and then running off, and it

799
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:42.159
was just this human shaped form, the predator style.

800
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:42.920
That one.

801
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.320
When I first saw that, that was like, oh my god,

802
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.639
that's I do not want to run up on that

803
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:49.760
in the woods.

804
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.559
So we One of the things I've been kind of

805
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.840
looking at and toying around with is using like older

806
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:03.079
video cameras instead of new digital stuff, because I feel

807
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:08.079
like they can manipulate the digital okay, And so some

808
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.800
of the all the best footage that I've seen has

809
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:16.760
all been on regular old school tape. So I was

810
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.679
thinking about you can still find them, you know, I'm

811
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:21.760
not going to be walking around.

812
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.239
The woods with all of those old vhs. You know,

813
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:26.440
I don't know how old you are.

814
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.400
But I know I remember those I remember having one

815
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.400
of those, and I was filmed my because my oldest

816
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.360
daughter is thirty, but when she was a baby, i'd

817
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.400
have this thing and I was like this big freaking yeah.

818
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.599
My uncle had one and there's yeah, I remember him

819
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.880
and filming and there's pictures of him on the places

820
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.320
of that big thing on his shoulders.

821
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.000
But I have been thinking about doing that.

822
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.280
And definitely worth a try.

823
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.480
I mean, film, at least in cameras and stuff is

824
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.920
making a resurgence, so I don't see why analog is

825
00:46:58.199 --> 00:46:59.599
would make a make a comeback.

826
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:06.880
So we talked about blue eyed or you know, Asian

827
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.119
looking Bigfoot. What do we think about the DNA, What

828
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:12.199
do we think about Oh?

829
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.800
I find that absolutely fascinating, So do I.

830
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.719
And I mean obviously the big the big you know

831
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.519
elephant in that room or the big sasquatch in that room.

832
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:22.920
Is the melvio catch them?

833
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:23.440
You know?

834
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:23.960
Yes?

835
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.559
And the more that I dig into this, the more

836
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:30.800
credible I find it.

837
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:32.800
That's just my no.

838
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.679
I I agree with you.

839
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:40.920
And I really think that so many people they're not

840
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.239
conspiratorially minded enough.

841
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.880
Yeah, there's a there's a reason why they're trying.

842
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.039
To make it discredited. Yes, that's the word I'm looking for.

843
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.440
There's a reason that they're trying to discredit that, just

844
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.559
the way the same way that they for years have

845
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.199
been trying to discredit you know, bigfoot witnesses. Oh you

846
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.360
didn't see anything, that was just a bear. Put only

847
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.119
put that in the report. It was just a bear.

848
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.800
UFO people especially you know, oh, you know you didn't

849
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.760
You're just you're crazy or you're just so oh you're

850
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.679
those crazy people, those conspiracy people. They automatically put that

851
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.960
stigma on that whenever, you know, people do show evidence

852
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:23.239
for things. So put finding true DNA evidence and what

853
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.480
evidence they did find and where it leads in that report.

854
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:31.079
What brought me back to that was Scott Carpenter's stuff

855
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.280
right in his book and whatnot, and they lay out.

856
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:35.159
So this is the other thing.

857
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.159
It's it's now it's almost impossible to find the data

858
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.079
mm hmm.

859
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:40.760
And it.

860
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.760
But what everything I've heard is that they had independent

861
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.679
labs doing testing. They had all these people that had

862
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.679
no skin in the game, and they didn't tell them

863
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.320
what they were testing exactly.

864
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:55.559
And they had all this stuff.

865
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.400
I mean, you know, I could be wrong exactly, and

866
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:02.159
that's fine. The end of the day, people that were

867
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:06.639
intimately involved in this are like, no, it's legit, like

868
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:11.440
and she made some miscalculations when they put it out,

869
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:17.280
but she had a whole community against her too because

870
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.920
she's not a you know, well, first off, at the time,

871
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.639
she was a woman, so that probably didn't help. She's

872
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.159
not a biologist or what. She's a veterinarian, which I

873
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:31.320
think is pretty.

874
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.840
I think that's pretty field for eight years.

875
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.880
So I definitely there's a lot of there's so much

876
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.440
knowledge and science bro like.

877
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.480
What are you telling me that they don't know what

878
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.920
they're talking about? Right right? So, uh yeah.

879
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.840
So I just wanted to get your take. So you're

880
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.880
obviously a someone that you know, it's intriguing.

881
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.440
Super intriguing in the fact that uh some and I

882
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.159
always get it back, whether it's the nuclear, the mitochondrial DNA,

883
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.880
the one the female side of it. Yeah, yeah, it

884
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:15.440
goes back to that being the mother's lineage and ninety

885
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.679
percent of what was in that And I wish I

886
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:19.719
had it up here with me, but I do have

887
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:23.440
Scott Carpenter's about that, and I like, I use it

888
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.280
for reference all the time, and it lays out in

889
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.159
there step by step of how that is directed back

890
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.760
to the Middle East.

891
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.639
Yeah, well they have hal groups, that.

892
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.679
Halp groups, and it goes back to the Middle East,

893
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.559
which is where a lot of people will tie in

894
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:45.719
to the Nephilim, lau watchers, all that kind of stuff.

895
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:50.519
And honestly, when you start looking into all these things,

896
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.119
all these tinfoil hats that we wear, you know, UFO's Bigfoot,

897
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.599
other cryptids, the spirituality, theology and everything, really really start

898
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.000
looking into it and delving into it. Do you see

899
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.519
where you can start seeing all these pieces where it

900
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.440
all connects and how all of this stuff is connected.

901
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:10.599
To each other.

902
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.400
And if you don't have enough of an open mind

903
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:17.599
to see that, then I don't know, you might have

904
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.599
a little bit of cognitive dissonance.

905
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.440
There or a serious ego issue.

906
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.119
Yes, that's another good one.

907
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:26.480
As we run into those ones a lot.

908
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.960
And and what do they call that like territory guarding,

909
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.920
you know, because I understand everyone needs to make money

910
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:36.400
to live in.

911
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.559
This world, right, I absolutely agree.

912
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.400
That doesn't mean you can't be open to you know,

913
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:43.480
all of it.

914
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:45.400
Yeah, you can't be open.

915
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:48.239
I'm making money off of this podcast, and.

916
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.679
I don't believe in one thing, you know what I mean,

917
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.559
Like it's it's not I'm not making a living doing it.

918
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.079
But at the end of the day, I get that

919
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:02.079
people need to guard their territory or guard their stuff.

920
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:08.079
But what exactly, Like I said, the egos in in

921
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:09.519
a lot of this and the.

922
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:12.360
Bullying.

923
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.920
That's one of the things that I can't I can't

924
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.039
send you know, Oh, if you don't believe that these

925
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.360
things are you know, flesh and blood and you.

926
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.119
Know, you're just wrong, or oh you don't believe, you're.

927
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.039
Not if you're not, if they're if you can't believe

928
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.159
that they're interdimensional, then you're just wrong.

929
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:31.039
You know. Just stop, everybody, just take a chill pill

930
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:31.880
for a little while.

931
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:37.639
We're all after the exactly we're all after answers. And

932
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.880
if you don't look at all the pieces of the puzzle,

933
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:41.840
you're never going to put the put it together.

934
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:49.639
Absolutely, so you're you're pretty uh deep into the I

935
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:56.280
wear a lot of hats and so do why I literally, yeah,

936
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.920
pretty much have a room that's foil covered.

937
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.320
It's like a fair day cage. You know.

938
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.880
I actually had a tint hat I bade one for

939
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:08.039
a TikTok video. It was about the the the eclipse

940
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.320
last year when everybody was going on about a baiting

941
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:12.119
the end of the world. So I actually made a

942
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.719
tint hat for that video I made about it.

943
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.760
It's somewhere here around the house.

944
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.320
I had a buddy who I used to see. He

945
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:22.599
made like a you know, the old.

946
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.840
Like sailors, like the commodore's hats.

947
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:26.159
Yeah.

948
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:30.440
Yeah, he made one out of aluminum foil and he

949
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:32.320
used to wear it.

950
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.599
It was really funny. Yeah, just put yourself in a

951
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:41.119
far day cage room. That's it. You'll set. But yeah,

952
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.519
I am uh yeah, I study at all. I can't.

953
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.280
I can't.

954
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:50.760
I can't not do it, you know, and it just

955
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.880
sends you down. They might not all correlate, but they.

956
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.559
Definitely rhyme, you know, all the things, and it's.

957
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.920
Like, how how are these not the one thing I've

958
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:07.199
been lately? And I'm not saying either way, but the

959
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.800
flat earth globe eth I I don't know, man.

960
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:13.440
I can't. It's hard.

961
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.159
I'm honestly kind of in the same boat if that

962
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.480
ends up being the case. The world is flat, there's

963
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.400
a ferman and whatever, which it does talk about and

964
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.320
you're I'm totally open to it, you know, if it's

965
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.199
all you know what, once I get, once I I fainted,

966
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.880
once I've left this mortal plane, it's not gonna matter.

967
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:36.360
It won't surprise me.

968
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.400
But it is a.

969
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:42.119
Surprises me, you know, the Antarctica thing and the ice

970
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.800
the ice wall. So that's that's really fascinating to me.

971
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.159
Which and then of course Johnson that I could have

972
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.159
recently fell down the Tartaria rabbit holes.

973
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:56.119
So what's the Iron Uh? What's that called?

974
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.480
I just watched a video about it. It's like the

975
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.360
Iron Nation or something.

976
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:08.400
It's like one of the civilizations beyond the ice Wall. Okay, yeah,

977
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.119
but Tartaria, go on tell me.

978
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:15.239
Yeah, so there's so many other people who can tell

979
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.719
you about it. But yeah, the Tartaria thing is has

980
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.320
to do with a lost history and that you know,

981
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:25.159
there's been a wipe of civil it was one of

982
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:29.639
the many resets of civilization. And which is I find

983
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.320
actually find fascinating and I've told out to a lot

984
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.039
of people, which actually can delve into another fun subject matter.

985
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.400
In the Bible, God actually tells Adam and Eve to

986
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:44.280
go out and re populate the earth, which I ampletely

987
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:48.079
find that is such an interesting Easter egg, Like, why

988
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:49.840
would they why would they put.

989
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:50.119
That in there?

990
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.159
Why would that be interpreted that if you look at

991
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:58.239
the original scripture, you know, the original language, the Hebrew there, that's.

992
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:58.840
What it says.

993
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:02.280
So I don't know, I find that. I find that fascinating,

994
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.440
which goes into a lot of ancient history stuff, right exactly.

995
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.880
Yeah, which the Tartarian things, the mud flood.

996
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:14.400
Yeah, that's the mud flood theory, which it is fascinating me,

997
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.760
especially if you look after what just happened around here

998
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.400
in North Carolina and East Tennessee and stuff with the

999
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:21.679
floods that they had in the landslides.

1000
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.280
Absolutely you can you can see it.

1001
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:30.199
Yeah, it's madness, absolutely crazy.

1002
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.000
Man, there's just too much, so many rabbit holes.

1003
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.360
Some are just some are fun, and then some are

1004
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:40.679
like maybe I should maybe you shouldn't have dug that far?

1005
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:41.760
Right.

1006
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:47.119
My best friend and I we are going pants like

1007
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.440
this all the time, and we'll talk and we'll say

1008
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.880
sometimes it's like almost sometimes I wish I could go

1009
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.920
back to being a normy where I didn't know all

1010
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.719
of this stuff and just be bully, just bliss, be unaware.

1011
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.159
And not have no worry in the world, you know.

1012
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.119
But again, and this is just me being preachy. You know,

1013
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.280
if you have if you have your faith in God

1014
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.880
and you have your salvation through Jesus Christ, then you

1015
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:15.599
shouldn't really have too much to worry about anyway, because

1016
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.679
you know that in the end, He's gonna win and

1017
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.119
we're gonna have you know, eternity in heaven and it's

1018
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:22.960
not gonna matter.

1019
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.800
Right absolutely, And it's like the rest of it, You're

1020
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:27.719
kind of like, do I really need to know?

1021
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:28.760
Yeah?

1022
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.239
It's it's like one of those.

1023
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.519
Instances where you where you wonder, when is enough wisdom?

1024
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:35.800
Right?

1025
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:36.119
Right?

1026
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.199
What do I Do I really need to know who

1027
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:41.960
the Antichrist is? Or do I really need to know who?

1028
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.039
What bigfoot is? Or lackness?

1029
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.320
Or do I need you know, do I need to

1030
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:49.719
know these things? Really?

1031
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:50.599
Yeah?

1032
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.519
And it's it's one of those parts.

1033
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.280
When you're like, am I you know you really have

1034
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.920
to look at it, and and you know, God tells

1035
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:01.599
us to find wisdom.

1036
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.400
He does. Yeah, I'm actually looking up something as you're talking.

1037
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:05.960
I'm not ignoring no.

1038
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.480
No, no, He you know tells us to find But

1039
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.639
it's one of those things is when are you crossing lines?

1040
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:12.199
Right?

1041
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:13.079
Right?

1042
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.639
And that's part of the issue that happened with in

1043
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:20.440
my opinion, that happened with the watchers is that man

1044
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:26.440
was so intrigued by the knowledge that they had that

1045
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:31.320
they could give us, and it corrupted it and and

1046
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.119
that was part of the whole problem, right, And they

1047
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:39.480
sold there, they essentially sold their daughters to angels or

1048
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.320
whatever you want to call them, the watchers, right.

1049
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:43.960
And this is just the job.

1050
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:45.159
Title, so it's exactly.

1051
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.039
Yeah, it's kind of an all encompassing term. So a

1052
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:53.159
very interesting uh verse that and and this is all

1053
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:58.639
credit to to Expedition Bigfoot Museum. They have this particular

1054
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.639
Bible verse as an easter egg in the in the

1055
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.239
museum there. It's it's over top of the theater screen

1056
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.679
and it's Proverbs twenty five and two. It says, it's

1057
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.440
the glory of God to conceal a thing, but it's

1058
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:18.639
the honor of kings to search out a matter. And

1059
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.960
I'm like, yeah, that kind of puts all of this. Yeah,

1060
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.280
that kind of puts it together right there, right.

1061
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:32.039
Does for sure? Or sure? I'm writing it down, I

1062
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:33.719
tell you, yeah.

1063
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.960
I tell you that's why I had to find my

1064
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.079
pen earlier too, is because I wanted to always take

1065
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:41.159
notes doeering things. Somebody will mention something as I'm talking

1066
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:42.800
or they're talking, is like, hey, have you heard of this?

1067
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.880
I'm like, actually, no, I haven't. Let me write that down.

1068
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.960
So what is the what is the rabbit hole that

1069
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.159
you've been immersed in.

1070
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:54.000
Lately?

1071
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:58.880
Like most most right now is right now, I've just

1072
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:06.519
been really delving in to older stories or pre nineteen

1073
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:13.719
hundred stories of Bigfoot via newspaper articles. That's really just

1074
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.599
kind of been where I've been at for the last say,

1075
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:21.320
a couple of months, because I've just acquired a book

1076
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.760
that mister David Plidis, who everybody's familiar with him from

1077
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.760
the Missing Quorra one. But he's put out a book

1078
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.480
and I've been reading it and it's a collection of

1079
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:36.639
nothing but newspaper articles from the sixteen hundreds to the

1080
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:43.400
early nineteen hundreds. It's called Bigfoot, wild Man, and Giants

1081
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.719
or it's those three names. I don't know if that's

1082
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:49.079
the right. I've actually seen the book now that I

1083
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:55.159
think yeah, And there is so many fascinating stories and

1084
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:59.840
recollections in those and could some of it be embellished,

1085
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.599
of course, you know, just like our modern our modern

1086
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:03.079
media in.

1087
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.800
Bellos, their you know Ymber, Oh.

1088
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.039
Yeah, I remember the Inquirer, bat Boy and all those

1089
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:16.199
other fun ones. Yeah, so some of it could be embellished, yes,

1090
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:21.960
But there's just like with everything that every story, legend, whatever,

1091
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.320
has to have something to start it on. So I've

1092
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:28.119
really been delving into that book from literally from front

1093
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:33.400
to back and finding correlations in some of these stories. Actually,

1094
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.599
you mentioned the red eyes there. I've found at least

1095
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:41.280
five articles in that book that I can remember off

1096
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:44.880
the top of my head that mentioned red amber eyes

1097
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.239
or its eyes were like fire, and it's mentioned even

1098
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.960
in those old times, which again correlates to that what

1099
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:57.679
that people are experiencing with Bigfoot nowadays, people have been

1100
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:01.159
experiencing these same things throughout time.

1101
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:03.840
Yeah, and I just I find that absolutely fascinating.

1102
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:06.280
So that's that's the rabbit hole as far as Bigfoot

1103
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.840
has been going, that I've really been kind of delving

1104
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:13.119
into is looking at a lot of that older knowledge

1105
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.199
that's out there. I love history. I've had such a

1106
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.760
fascination with history my whole life, you know, starting out

1107
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.199
with all the family history stuff, and now you know

1108
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.599
it's delved into all the cryptid stuff.

1109
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:30.000
Yeah, I'm looking right now, I'm looking up.

1110
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.920
So you know the Bigfoot Mapping project.

1111
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.000
Oh, I love that. That is such an awesome tool

1112
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:39.000
that's come out recently.

1113
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.880
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm interviewing him next week. But that

1114
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:44.800
was one of the questions I was going to see

1115
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.639
is does he have eye color?

1116
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:49.960
You know, that's a good question. I haven't actually looked

1117
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:50.159
at that.

1118
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:54.559
He doesn't, so I we should. I ain't gonna talk

1119
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:56.800
to him about that and say hey, because we've.

1120
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:03.880
Got obviously like color, sex, vocalization, footprints, would knox things

1121
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:09.280
like that. But you know, I wonder, I wonder if

1122
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:12.239
like we have eye color, you know, because like.

1123
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.000
You're saying glowing red and I've heard black eyes.

1124
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.559
That's actually a good quick There's another young lady who

1125
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.599
I found via via TikTok, and I want to say

1126
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:29.679
her channel is Bigfoot like data or something like that.

1127
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.920
And the other young lady's curly hair, and she's actually

1128
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:39.199
going through all the BFR reports and compiling this amazing

1129
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:43.960
data from all of these and it's been really really

1130
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:45.800
neat to see the stuff that she's coming across, So

1131
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:47.599
I wonder if she's I'll have to see if she's

1132
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.400
found anything on eye color, any any of that it's

1133
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.280
mentioned in any of the reports to being mentioned enough

1134
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:56.079
to work there could be any data taken off of

1135
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.079
it besides like a one off here there.

1136
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:04.840
Yeah, that's a I mean, because if we want to okay,

1137
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:11.159
it seems like unfortunately that's the science is going to have.

1138
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.719
To talk, and there's nothing wrong with that.

1139
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:21.719
Science talk is fascinating exactly. Yeah.

1140
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.119
The more data we can get, the better.

1141
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.239
Absolutely. Yeah.

1142
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.320
I've actually been co hosting on another podcast, Squatch and

1143
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:34.760
Holler with with Roger Williams and he we actually were

1144
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:40.719
interviewing Shane Corson from the Olympic Project last night and

1145
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:46.320
we were talking about data and how having that hard evidence,

1146
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:51.079
that hard data to go off of is just that

1147
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.639
it's what you need in this You can have all

1148
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:57.440
these stories and everything, but having the physical data to

1149
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:02.039
look at and to go what's try to think of

1150
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.159
an analogy, So you know, you have a person who

1151
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:09.400
has seen a mysterious animal and they can't explain what

1152
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:12.440
it was, but they happened to find a hair sample

1153
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.920
from what where the area was they saw they can

1154
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:20.320
take that piece of evidence that they have and now

1155
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:24.519
research it next to something else, some other evidence that

1156
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:29.000
has been brought up from you know, other places, and

1157
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.599
they oh, this was oh actually though, this was just

1158
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:32.239
you know.

1159
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:36.320
A weird box or whatever hair, you know, weird hair.

1160
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:40.519
Oh, actually, this looks very similar to other sasquatch hair

1161
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:41.840
that has come up.

1162
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.079
And I know, we're not going to know in the

1163
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:44.920
DNA test.

1164
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:46.920
They're not going to it's not going to flag because

1165
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.800
we don't have a Sasquatch's DNA it.

1166
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:52.360
Why can't we wait?

1167
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:56.519
Why can't we maintain the data and find out if

1168
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:00.960
it correlates to other samples? And that's the thing that

1169
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.199
I found that kind of drives me a little crazy,

1170
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.000
is that when we talk about the DNA, so you've

1171
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:06.840
got other.

1172
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:11.480
DNA that's been tested that has come up.

1173
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.159
Unknown mm hmm. But if you actually took those and

1174
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.280
put them against each other, what would that look like?

1175
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:26.599
And that's that's a question that no one can answer

1176
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:29.719
that I've not found anyone that can answer that question.

1177
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.719
That's actually a very good question I need to.

1178
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.199
So do you immediately just discard it or can you

1179
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:41.960
because there's a sequence you created a sequence there said

1180
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:46.800
well it's compromised or whatever, and yet you can't prove

1181
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.079
that it is or that it isn't. And that's fine,

1182
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.039
but that that's my thing is why don't we start

1183
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:57.920
testing these things against each other?

1184
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.079
But I don't. I don't know if anyone's done it,

1185
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:02.719
or if they have or you.

1186
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:04.880
Know, they may have and they just like with all

1187
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:09.639
the ridicule stuff that happened so heavily with miskel Ketchum,

1188
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.840
you know, they may not do that publicly or you know,

1189
01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:17.400
it's where it's not as known as much. And especially

1190
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.039
since or at least here in the Southeast for me personally,

1191
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:24.800
especially since Scott Carpenter's passed passed away, I wouldn't have

1192
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.320
any idea who to ask about that with him being

1193
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:30.880
on now because he was so heavily involved in that.

1194
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:33.960
And I don't know if anybody else here in the Southeast.

1195
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:39.199
Yeah, no, I don't either. I mean, David Plads was

1196
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.679
involved in that a lot, he was well, but he's

1197
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:49.920
not in the Southeast. So but yeah, so.

1198
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:55.400
I wonder it's just it's again more questions.

1199
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:55.960
Right exactly.

1200
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.559
Every time you think you find something, it just makes

1201
01:07:58.599 --> 01:07:59.960
twenty more questions.

1202
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.519
It just makes you realize that we don't know anything

1203
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:03.760
really exactly.

1204
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:09.360
Everything that we've been taught is just all either nothing

1205
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.440
at all, Like we didn't learn just to even talk

1206
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.480
about just in modern life nowadays. You hear like my

1207
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.920
generation younger is like they didn't teach us how to

1208
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.119
do taxes. They taught us to pack the thag area

1209
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:20.600
and theory.

1210
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:26.119
Yeah exactly, like what's a parallelogram because you know, yeah.

1211
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:27.000
What good is that going to do?

1212
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:27.119
Me?

1213
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:30.359
Run right?

1214
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:33.079
So it's the same thing with all of this cryptid

1215
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:34.880
stuff and paranormal stuff as well.

1216
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:43.760
So talk to us about your upcoming little adventure with

1217
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:45.319
the Encounter's conference.

1218
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:47.640
Yes, so I'll throw it.

1219
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.239
We'll throw the shameless Yeah, they're.

1220
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:51.119
Give me a shameless plug.

1221
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:52.600
I'll take it.

1222
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:56.720
So. Yes, as mentioned earlier, I got invited by.

1223
01:08:58.159 --> 01:08:59.760
Neil Ryder with a bigfoot.

1224
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:06.840
Him and Scott Granger from Sasquatch and Fish Sasquatch Fishing

1225
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:10.760
Outfitters up here in North Georgia reached out to me

1226
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.479
there at the museum. Scott actually came and talked to

1227
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:17.000
me in person and he said, Hey, you need to

1228
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:18.760
reach out to this guy Neil.

1229
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.800
He really wants to talk to you. I see, he's I.

1230
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:24.960
Think you'd be really good, good fit to to do

1231
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.199
this thing. And so I call him and he first

1232
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:33.159
we talk Bigfoot of course for a while, and he

1233
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.840
just he invites me to come and see if I

1234
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:39.159
would be interested in speaking at this conference that he's

1235
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.560
trying to put together. He's morally wanting. He said, you know,

1236
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.319
some of these conferences are a lot of fun. You know,

1237
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.000
you have you know, the speakers, and you have the

1238
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.840
of course the vendors and all the other funds comes

1239
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:53.640
along with it. But if you look like at the

1240
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:56.439
TV shows and everything about Bigfoot, what is the part

1241
01:09:56.520 --> 01:10:00.159
about those shows that everybody remembers. It's the town hall

1242
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:05.039
where everybody is sharing their encounters, and you know, people

1243
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.399
are asking questions and getting answers to a lot of

1244
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.399
their questions, like just like questions that mean you have

1245
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:12.680
been asking to each other back and forth. So he

1246
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.439
wants to build a different kind of conference where it's

1247
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:21.920
kind of geared more towards letting people ask the questions

1248
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:24.760
and having a panel of people there who can help

1249
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:29.079
answer some of those questions. As far as Bigfoot is concerned.

1250
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:31.720
Yeah, I see, there's a couple things on the schedule,

1251
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:36.000
or it's witness encounters where they literally have one, two

1252
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:37.560
three different times.

1253
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.439
Yeah, there you are from one to two yep, right

1254
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.319
after lunch today on Saturday.

1255
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:43.960
Yep.

1256
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:46.119
That's awesome.

1257
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.880
Yeah. So I've helped him put that together.

1258
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:55.680
I actually helped, uh make the promotional flyers for that,

1259
01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.239
and uh, he had somebody else build up the website

1260
01:10:59.319 --> 01:10:59.800
and things.

1261
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:01.960
Yeah, it looks good. I like it.

1262
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.479
Yeah, he's it's very very professional looking. Every time I

1263
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.600
talk to him, he's just so super excited about this

1264
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.920
and is hoping to make it an annual thing because

1265
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:17.399
there's already a couple of Bigfoot conferences here in Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee,

1266
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.520
and of course you know you got the big one

1267
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:23.479
in Gatlinburg every year now. So we're hoping to make

1268
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:28.359
maybe make this. Yeah, I still haven't got to make

1269
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.399
it to it yet. Working at the museum, I always

1270
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:32.279
work on the weekends.

1271
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.720
When are all of the Yeah, on the weekends.

1272
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:38.479
Yeah, I'm I guess. Yeah.

1273
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:44.399
Technically we're a sponsor that broadcasting seasons sponsor the Great

1274
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:50.199
Smoky Mountain is it the Smoky Mountain that's in Gatland's a.

1275
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.199
Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference there it is.

1276
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:54.880
Yeah, I can't even I'm a sponsor and I can't

1277
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:55.760
even tell you what it is.

1278
01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:02.600
It's pretty funny. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Well where else

1279
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:03.720
can people find you?

1280
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:05.039
Uh?

1281
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:08.399
My most my big thing right now now that it's

1282
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.079
not been taken away by the government, that is TikTok uh.

1283
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:17.760
That's where I started last year with putting out some

1284
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.079
just you know, fun memes and conspiracy videos and things

1285
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.560
like that, and it's kind of blew up. Is it

1286
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:27.399
small in comparison to a lot of other people. Absolutely,

1287
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.439
but for myself, you know, just doing something fun, you know,

1288
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.800
having over for yeah, having over four thousand followers is

1289
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:36.119
kind of like, oh my.

1290
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:38.239
Gosh, that was not what I was expecting.

1291
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:42.239
So yeah, TikTok And I'm branching out and trying to

1292
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:46.760
put some more stuff out on some YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,

1293
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.039
and of course anybody can reach out to me anytime

1294
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:52.600
to my email which is just Amanda the Bigfoot Lady

1295
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:56.039
at gmail dot com. I have people send me reports,

1296
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:59.279
Hey check a look at this picture and and things

1297
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.560
like that all the time time. So I am an

1298
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:05.199
open book. I have nothing to hide. I'll try if

1299
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:07.319
somebody's like sending me a picture or something I can't

1300
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:10.399
don't know, can't help you out with it. I'm slowly

1301
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:14.039
building up a community of people that I can reach

1302
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:18.239
out to and ask questions too, and see if we

1303
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:21.399
can't find answers for people. And I also love to

1304
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.279
help the children. That's one of the reasons I actually

1305
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:30.039
started the TikTok Is. I wanted to put out family

1306
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:36.960
friendly Bigfoot content definitely, because I see that need all

1307
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.520
the time working there at the museum. People come in

1308
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.359
with their their children, and the children are so into this,

1309
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:47.479
and they was like, well, where can people go? Where

1310
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.039
can I go that you know, something that you know

1311
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.880
I could my son could watch or things, so you know,

1312
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:54.039
I'll suggest movies and a couple of YouTube channels and

1313
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.439
things like that. I was like, well, maybe I could

1314
01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:58.600
do something like that. You know, I could put out

1315
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:02.279
little fun things here and there, something funny for the

1316
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.560
kids to watch, or something that's educational for them. That's

1317
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:08.600
that the parents don't have to worry about, you know,

1318
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:13.880
anything PG. Thirteen is being said or dirty words coming

1319
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:16.840
out and being sad and things like that. So I

1320
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.279
just got to get past my stage fright a little

1321
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.479
bit and and just put it out there.

1322
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:30.439
It happens, Yeah, it does, all right. So I really

1323
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:31.560
appreciate you coming on.

1324
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:33.880
Oh thanks for having me on. This has been a

1325
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:36.479
great conversation. I've really really enjoyed it.

1326
01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:39.119
And I'm sure we can go down many a rabbit hole.

1327
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:41.920
And oh absolutely, there's so many rabbit holes we can

1328
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.560
go down. I have so many more stories and just

1329
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:49.199
fun things from working at at the museum, and I

1330
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:52.439
just want to give a shout out to them, David Bakara,

1331
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:57.039
Melinda Bacaera, the owners of Expedition Bigfoot, the Sasquatch Museum,

1332
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:02.279
and Blue Ridge, where I am employed, Blue Ridge, Georgia, Yes, sir,

1333
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.239
and yeah, they give their museum some love as well.

1334
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.079
Yeah, at some time, at some point, I'll be down there.

1335
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:12.720
How many museums are there?

1336
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:13.720
And do we know?

1337
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:15.840
Honestly, I don't know.

1338
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.000
If people ask you that a lot, I probably should know,

1339
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.399
but I know of at least uh three or four

1340
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.520
here on the East coast. There's one in Oklahoma. There's

1341
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:31.680
the other big one, the Sasquatch Outpost in Colorado and Bailey, Colorado.

1342
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:34.079
And I've been there because yeah, that one's owned by

1343
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:37.479
Jim Myers. He's another great guy to his His little

1344
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.000
museum he put together is really neat. Yeah, And Cliff

1345
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.920
Barrickman has his big museum now that he's opened in

1346
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.760
out right outside of Portland, Oregon.

1347
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:47.039
There.

1348
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:51.359
That's the North American Bigfoot Center in North American Sasquatch

1349
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.880
something like that. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's it's really good

1350
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.359
as well. I haven't made it out there too.

1351
01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:58.720
Isn't there a big one up in Maine too, But.

1352
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.960
That one's yeah, that was a big Yeah, that's the end.

1353
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:01.399
It's not.

1354
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:06.560
That's Lauren Coleman's Lauren Coleman's place. That's the International crypto

1355
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:09.199
Zoology something like that.

1356
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.039
Yeah, it's really bad.

1357
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.720
I should I've been by it. I've actually been by it.

1358
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:15.119
I've never been to it though.

1359
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:20.319
Nice. Yeah it was closed but a bummer.

1360
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:28.720
Yeah, I mean it's small, but it's it's it's actful exactly.

1361
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:31.159
For what it is. It's it's very very well done.

1362
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:33.479
Absolutely all right, Amanda.

1363
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:38.279
I appreciate it, and absolutely we will. We will definitely

1364
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:39.279
do this again soon.

1365
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:40.119
Absolutely.

1366
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.119
I would love to come back on again and share

1367
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:43.680
some more stuff with you guys.

1368
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.199
I want to come back on and talk about your presentation.

1369
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.840
When does that will work?

1370
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:57.279
Yeah? I got bad thoughts that make my maskin hold

1371
01:16:57.279 --> 01:17:00.439
me hostage, and they don't fight fair. Don't for me,

1372
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:03.079
your white brother, my tests, Who're gonna save me? If

1373
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.880
you're not right here? Move this darkness and make my

1374
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:06.520
sight clear?

1375
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:09.520
Take me your way because I don't like your ghost

1376
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:10.199
of my past.

1377
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:12.560
They feel in the night are wake me up. I'm

1378
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:22.800
trapped in my Nightmas, trapped in.

1379
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:37.520
My Nightmas, trowling, trowling my mouth to deepen apparition of

1380
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:40.800
all my demons, all my thoughts, I come, making treason

1381
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:45.920
all alone. I'm going ahead, me screaming manifestations on my fists,

1382
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:46.920
regrets that.

1383
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.680
Stretched out for light years. You can almost touch the light.

1384
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:53.159
HOI it's right there, body free, but trapped in my Nightmas.

1385
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:57.239
I don't let me our light to fade.

1386
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:02.159
All my life is fair, all my life's face.

1387
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:03.239
And then I'm wait.

1388
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:05.119
I'm don't like missus Jane.

1389
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:06.760
All my life.

1390
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.479
Is facing, All my life is face.

1391
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:22.439
Enough happen, like man, we check in my lightness