July 25, 2025

Into the Occult: Nick's Journey Through Magic, Conspiracy & Awakening

Into the Occult: Nick's Journey Through Magic, Conspiracy & Awakening
Into the Occult: Nick's Journey Through Magic, Conspiracy & Awakening
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Into the Occult: Nick's Journey Through Magic, Conspiracy & Awakening
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In this conversation, Nick shares his journey into the world of occultism, conspiracies, and personal magical experiences. He discusses his involvement with the OTO, critiques its direction, and reflects on the nature of rituals and their effects on reality. Nick emphasizes the responsibility that comes with practicing magic and explores the potential for a new awakening in society. He also highlights the importance of self-discovery and understanding one's own mind in the pursuit of spiritual growth.

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Year Joe, straight from the broadcast studio, and then the

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status this ain't no beat sound story such as prophetic

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encrypt the signals from the shadows of the garden we

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did where the dirt got secret, snow parted, microphone alchemists

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scriptures with a twist peak the frequency seeds in the

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midst we drop false like plagues revelations in the catus,

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broadcasting truth while they trapped in surveillans wisdom with a

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watchman's blade forth, what sound while your whole system fail?

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Blood moons that for love echoes in the pond sasquart

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stoppen through the fault lines of time. We ain't mainstream,

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we ain't just streams safer with the prophets to code

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the dreams, so with you throw them in better guards

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of mind? Is broadcasting seeds and were breaking the design

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of the shid Yeah, yeh yo yo, straight from the

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broadcast studio.

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Look, tell us who you are, what you do and

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where we can find you.

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Awesome, Well, thank you very much for asking me on.

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I really appreciate it. What do I do I have?

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The Occult Rejects podcast that is a podcast is like

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at this point, what it's at now is like a

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conglomerate of a bunch of other podcasts. Wasn't always like that?

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Has probably about a total of almost maybe ten people

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that are part of it. But uh yeah, the Occult

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Rejects podcast. We cover occultism, conspiracies, true crime, paranormal you know,

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try to tie it to an occult sense. And we

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got the Occult Research Institute dot org. That is a

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website just tons and tons of different information from different people.

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But yeah, all of our stuff you can find on YouTube, Bitchhoot,

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Brumble and all major podcasts.

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Patreon.

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Actually, you know we have we have a Patreon. I'd

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be totally honest with you. If you want to sign

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up with the Patreon, you can. I think it's five

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bucks a month and you get nothing. It's just a

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way to donate to the show.

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Nothing, I think any give them give them a cup

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of coffee, guys.

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Yeah, And I don't like to charge people for stuff,

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so I'd rather just answer donations.

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Viga, I think that's awesome. All right. So first question

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I like to ask all my guests is what got

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you into this crazy world of high strangeness? Like, and

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I know your story is a good one, but Yeah,

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what what what brought you to this crazy ass world

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of that we've talked about all.

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The time, right, I've I had to take that back

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to like god, almost twenty years ago, I'd say before before,

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I guess twenty eleven, twenty ten. Before that, I was

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I was heavily into conspiracy theories. Say probably around two

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thousand and nine is when I started getting big into

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that stuff, and.

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I forgot how.

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I think it was just literally a suggestion on YouTube

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took me to like Progert Camelot, and somehow I went

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down all of like conspiracy theories and all this weird shit,

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and I kind of gravitated towards Michael Tassarian, David Ike,

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Mark Passio, oh God, Jordan Maxwell, you know, all those

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people that were.

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Big into the occult, and I found it really interesting.

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And I always did believe kind of like in the

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cult to magic as a child. So this stuff interested

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me and I started looking into it, and you know, again,

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I guess for a few years it was just like

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something that I was heavily interested in, and I would

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research a lot of it, and at some point I

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just realized, like, I know, I'm following all these orders

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I'm following all these names with these people that started

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all this stuff, and I was like, oh, I still

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have zero fucking clue what the hell magic actually is, though,

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so I was like, maybe I can start looking at

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some books and stuff. So I had gotten like one

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book it was like High Magic, or like thirteen Lessons

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or twelve Lessons by Donald Michael Craig, something like that,

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and I checked that out and I was kind of

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interested in it, and there was some stuff of Alista

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Crowley in there, and I knew who he was. I

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knew like stories of him. I did think he was

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in a cult genius, regardless of what fucked up shit

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he may have done. So I did like contemplate a

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little bit, like all right, this guy might have stuff

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worth checking out. And eventually I was like, you know

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what I want to see if I can actually find

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a place to go to. And I knew somebody who

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was a Freemason, because there are the guy was also

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into ceremonial magic, and he had told me, if you're

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gonna try to get into ceremonial magic and the Freemasons,

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you're gonna be waiting fucking a long time, he said,

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before they even acknowledge that shit. I was like, all right,

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I'm not putting years in to that. And he's like, oh,

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just see if there's like maybe a Golden Door or

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an OTO near you. Maybe the Golden Door, because I

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was kind of interested in that a little bit because

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they seemed a little bit more academic. I guess there

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wasn't one near me, but when I started looking, I

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was like, oh, there's a fucking Oto lodge twenty minutes away.

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I was like, maybe I could check that out. I mean,

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it's really the only options I got, and eventually I

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pulled the trigger. I contacted them and asked them about

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coming to visit the place, and they had, like all

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these places have like some sort of social media, you know, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

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some way you can get in touch with them and

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they'll have like some sort of schedule probably for what

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goes on in the lodge, and you know, I think

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they had that. Maybe they suggested or I just decided, oh,

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maybe I'll go to a gnostic mass. I think because

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I found it on YouTube and I figured, all right,

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I go watch it on YouTube. I have an idea

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of like what I'm walking into. So eventually I made

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it to a Gnostic Mass, and uh, I mean it

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was weird at first too. It did even like kind

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of like, uh, I guess, because I guess since you

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don't show nudity on YouTube. When the tits came out

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in the Gnostic Mass, I was like, all right, what

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the fuck's going on?

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As this idewise shut shit like happening.

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I remember telling myself, if this gets any fucking weirder

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than this, I'm leaving.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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I'm like I've most people are like, oh great, iddies,

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but I'm just like, all right, what the fuck's happening next?

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You know, I'm in like the base of a building

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in a fucking temple, and I'm like fuck, you know.

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Right, So nothing else got weirder.

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I think the next time I went back, it was

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actually for a class on either like making candle magic

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or some shit. It wasn't a Gnostic Mass right again,

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but I went back and took it, went back for

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a class, and I was like, all right, this stuff

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isn't like too bad, and like some of the people

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there were all right, and I noticed there was a

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lot of people there into different stuff, so I was like,

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this might work out for me, just to learn earn

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from other people.

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And I guess about that lasted about another five or six.

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Years until I left. You know, I got sucked in

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a little bit.

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I didn't drink the kool aid too much, but I

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was you know, you know, I did start going and

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became a little bit more active, and at some point

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around COVID time, I did have like I, you know,

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would have a regimen where I would do a lot

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of meditations, chakra work and you know, ritual work to believe.

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It or not, like every day.

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And eventually at some point I started when I would

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consider having magical experiences, and to me, it just didn't

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match my experience at that place. I think the people

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there were heading in the same direction as me, and

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around COVID time, they got all crazy with that shit.

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They closed their doors and you know, they weren't doing anything.

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And then when they decided that they wanted to maybe

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open back up again, they sent out an email saying

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that ninety three percent, which is funny because they used

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ninety three all the time, ninety three percent of the

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law is uncomfortable with going there unless they're vaccinated.

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And I was like, I know, me, Jordan and my

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friend a Jason. All three of us.

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Never got this fucking supposed thing that you just took.

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So how was it that ninety three percent? Because we

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all would have said, fuck you, that's crazy, you.

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Know what I'm saying.

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So I was just like, this wasn't even a real poll,

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is it because we didn't get fucking asked.

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, yeah, now you're just making fucking shit

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up in my opinion. And then they decided to start

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doing zoom meetings and I was like, all right, I'll

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stick with that just to stay active. But even at

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this point, six months prior to COVID or them closing down,

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I wasn't even going.

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Anymore because I just didn't. I didn't feel right there

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in a different direction. Yeah yeah.

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And then oh they got crazy with the George Floyd shit,

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and then that was that was what wrapped it up.

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George Floyd stuff happened.

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Actually, George Floyd might have actually happened before, like the

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crazy COVID shit with the you gotta be vaccinated pissed off,

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but they had a thing for the George Floyd shit.

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They sent out an email and I was like, I

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gotta check this out. I'm gonna join the zoom just

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for shits and giggles and see what the fuck's like?

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Why are we talking about George Floyd because we're the

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oto the oto that I'm just gonna use this as

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an example because it's a perfect example. Is a lot

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like alcoholics anonymous in the sense we're not supposed to

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have shit to say about the outside world except what's

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going on in here. We're only talking about magic. Fucking

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politics has nothing to do with this. Why the fuck

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are we getting into this shit? And it ended up

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turning into like almost group therapy, like a kumbaya about

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like who the fuck's experienced racism? I don't know, Like

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this is interesting considering there's only like fucking two black

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people on the lodge, so like what the fuck are

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only one of them are here?

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So like what is this about?

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We got white people going around them a circle talking

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about how they saw black people, being like.

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I'm like, what the fuck is this man?

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And then I was just like, yeah, I think I'm

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I don't know about this. And then all of a.

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Sudden they brought up time people wanted to start protesting together,

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and I was like, Yo, what the heck does this

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have to do with the OTO man, and after that,

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I was like, this is it like they're too far left,

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they're getting involved, you know, it's just very weird. I

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was like, I think this shit is my opinion, just

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my opinion overall, I do things to the OTO if it

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wasn't from inception, I do think it's a CIA fucking

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I think it's right by the CIA at this point.

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Yeah, yeah, I think it's.

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My opinion is just I've even questioned this about the

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Temple set. I'm just gonna be completely honest with you,

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especially from having a few of those guys on the show.

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I think the government or the CIA gets involved in

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these places and they realize that there are smart motherfuckers

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in these places, people that I've experienced magic, and they

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actually just like use them as data.

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Yeah right, And maybe they may not.

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Even some of these people may not even know, but

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I think they're being pent out and used by the CIA.

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Well yeah, like I mean that is so I'm just

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putting some stuff together here. So he're saying, like the

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way that they're reacting to a I guess you would

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call it because I don't like to get political, but

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a more liberal agenda. Right, So let's call it that,

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all right, So I'm already predisposed to this, But so

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along with that, and I've talked about this on other

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podcasts like Nefhelm des Squad and a couple others where

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we talked about that is this is the the progressive

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or the left playbook? Is is nudge by cast Sunstein?

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it's like the boiling the frog and the boiling water.

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you're just nudging that person to do exactly what you want.

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it wouldn't make It's not a far jump, it's not

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a far leap. Pretty soon we're gonna probably have to

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restart the podcast because we're talking about this shit. But

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you know what I'm saying that that is stuff that

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they are abs. So that's that's a great correlation because

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it's a they even had a position there.

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This is another thing to add on where I started

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even thinking like, what's really going on here? What do

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you start moving up in degrees? They're gonna even if

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you've been there for a while, they may start to

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being like, oh why don't you start like kind of

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doing things, you know, maybe the mask, you know, get involved.

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You know they're gonna walk to get involved. And like

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for me, the Mass, they ask people to get involved

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a lot. I know this may sounds silly or cheesy,

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but like again, at some point they would show tits

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and I'm gona just be honest most of the Again,

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I'm not saying I'm God's gift to women, but these women,

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I really didn't care to see them fucking like that.

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So I was like, I'll get out. Yeah, I start.

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Doing one of the child there's two they called children.

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and the priestess throughout the ritual. I chose to do

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one of those because when the time comes for the

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priests to take off her shit, I'm actually facing the

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completely different way and looking at everybody else and she's

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behind me. So now now i don't have to worry

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about any uncomfortability and I'm getting involved and I'm doing

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the easiest fucking thing. I'm walking around with salt water

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and a sultan water or a fucking incense and incense burner,

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you know. So I did that, but eventually they start

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wanting you to do other stuff, and when you get

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to the second degree, you're eligible to start doing like

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you started. You would do skypes with uh guy. I

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forgot the fucking dude's name. He's like one of the

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highest ups. He might have been like the outerhead guy.

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I think it was Beto whatever. They have silly fucking names.

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I thought from someone that I had spoke to from

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another lodge, they said that they had that position. They

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said it was easy, and I thought, they said, once

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a month, you talk to the guy and he just

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gives you, you know, he asks you a couple of

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questions about the lodge and what's going on and how

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everything is. And I was like, I think I could

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do that, you know, it's a fucking easy thing and

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get them off my back.

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I'll do it for a year. When I looked into it,

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it's every week.

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I was like, what the fuck do you need to

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know about every fucking week inside that lodge? Bro Right,

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what the fuck are you looking for? You're looking for

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data at this point, they're behind this. If every week

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you want to know what the flake? What's the difference

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from last A couple of people showed up, somebody showed

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some fucking titties, and we went home. You know what

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I'm saying, that's a gnostic mess man. We had some

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we had some fucking takes a light, we had some

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fucking wine. Everybody told shit and we went home. What

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the fuck do you need to know about every week?

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Dude? My opinion, that's just yeah reporting, right, yeah.

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And I was just like, I ain't being a fucking

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spy before, you know, and you want me to start

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repeating the shit I heard people, Uh, you know, he's

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dropping or fuck out of it?

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Yeah here, And I was like that was another one

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that I was like, I don't know. And another thing.

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After you do your initiations, eventually a couple of weeks later,

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they'll do a class for the people that were there

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and or people who were even attended or took the

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initiation already. If you took the second degree, you could

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come back, you know, three years later. For one of

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those classes, they started telling you things that would be

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needed to move up at certain degrees. And at one

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of them, if you're with somebody, the person's got to

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be in the otu, and then above that. I think

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it was the seventh or eighth degree, you're going to

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sign over all your shit. But then now I had

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this bipole on my show, which I do think he

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might have been telling the truth about this, because he

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was actually saying he doesn't there was somebody else I

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had on my show that was a tenth degree, and

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he says, I don't believe they probably stepped down because

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once you reach tenth degree, all that shit everybody else

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chipped in and fucking gave the order at the eighth

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degree is now yours.

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So that is a fucking cult.

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You're giving up your care. If you never higher than that.

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You'll never get it back and somebody else owns it.

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What the fuck is that? So weird? That is crazy?

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Joe.

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I remember sitting there and they said something about, like

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sine oboll your property. I was like yo, and I'm

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like trying to like look at my boy Jordan, who

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like did every fucking initiation with me up to that point.

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I'm like looking at I'm like, Yo, did you just

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fucking hear that?

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And from that moment on, I already knew it was

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I'm not going to be here forever because I'm not

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doing that shit. That's fucking record if you're taking my

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shit at that point, it's fucking wow. That's why I

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was like, yo, this is not for me. I was like,

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I do my time was short at that point.

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Right, So what did you move into? Where did where

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did we go from there? When? When you decided? So

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around money, I couldn't even tell you anymore? Yeah, and

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looking back everything so like.

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But uh, I guess getting into the stuff, I could

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say I got heavily into Kabala. I got it too,

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that Jamatria planetary magic. I don't know if that's where

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you're trying to get into. Like where did they go from?

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Yeah? Where did you go from? I did a lot

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of ritual work.

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I used to do a lot of the lesser banishing ritual,

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the pentagram, the hexagram. I would do with a lot

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of invocations too, But daily I would do meditations, I

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would do chakra work and breathing techniques and visual visualizations.

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I would say probably two or three times a day.

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I still did like banishing rituals and shit. But I

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did that for years and years and years.

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That take it, Like, what what were the effects if any.

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Event when I started having like weird experiences where I

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would go into meditations, But the first time it happened,

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I did. I did like my meditations. I would only

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do a meditation before ritual before like I get into it,

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just to clear my mind, and then I would get

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into the ritual, and then sometimes when I wanted to,

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I guess it folk whatever I'm doing, I sometimes, like

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in the middle of it, I would do another meditation

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to think about like what I'm actually doing. And sometimes

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I would use the what's it called the middle Pillow

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ritual where instead of seven chakras, you'd have like really

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five that you're focusing on, and you're supposed to like

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vibrate certain sounds and picture them and then you know

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all these things that you're supposed to envision, and that

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one I was just kind of like and I think

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I was doing it in an Egyptian too. I think I

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was saying the words of Egyptian. I don't know if

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it's the difference or not. I started doing like the

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chakra things, and I was focusing on my third eye.

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And pushing on it.

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It might sound crazy for people don't understand that stuff,

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but I was pushing on it, and like all of

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a sudden, it was just like I had some sort

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of explosion and it's like I was in like a

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almost like a high reds like like I walked into

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a movie. It was very weird, and that kind of

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like freaked me out, but it was like it was interesting.

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I had this view that I felt like that I

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was like, I don't know why I just assumed there

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was like a pyramid because I felt like I was

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inside of a place that I had to peak like

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a pyramid, but the wall was gone and I could

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see out and it just looked like sand everywhere.

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So on my mind, I'm like, oh, this is fucking

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Egypt or.

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Where I don't know, pyramid, And then I started thinking

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about like, well where am I? And I started thinking

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like who am I? Because like all I'm seeing is

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just like a vision. It's not like there's anybody attached

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to it. And it's like, all of a sudden, my

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view kind of like swivels around. It's like it's like

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it was like a fucking floating camera or something, and

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it starts to turn around, and like I'm like looking

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at this like being that's like standing there and it

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looks like an Egyptian being like standing in a cutoff

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part of a pyramid, and then I started to think.

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I was like, is that mean as soon as I

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thought that, I woke up, I came out of that

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kind of freaked me out, waited me out.

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I was like, I don't know.

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What the fuck that was about, because the weird thing

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is is that it actually seemed extremely detailed, like the

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grain you could almost see the fucking pores and everything.

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Yeah, like almost sandy.

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Look or not. I've even gone back.

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I was like, yo, it almost looks like, you know,

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they talk about making things out of clay and when

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you start getting into kabala and shit, I'm like that

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almost looked like everything was made out of clay at sand.

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It was weird.

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So I actually was like, yo, I think you're gonna

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chill out with some of the rituals and I think

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I'm just gonna stick to like basic meditation shit and

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just you know, go back to basics and just chill

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out on that, because I was like, I don't know

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what the fuck that was, and it wasn't like what

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I was intending, and it literally was like pretty fucking

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like intense and realistic to me.

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So I was like, I don't know what the fuck

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happened in my head.

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So I was like, I chill out, and I think

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about a week later, I was, uh, I was meditating

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and I was going up and down on my chakras

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while I was sitting in a chair in the god pose,

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which was basically just like with a straight back and.

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Your hands on you on your legs and you're just

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kind of still.

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I was doing my meditation and then I started going

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in the chakra work and I started pushing them. I'm

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like my third eye again, and I had noticed that,

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like the dark I would push on it, and like,

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you know, after meditating for a while, if it people

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who do that, you might I just sound silly, but

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it's like if twenty minutes in, it's gonna seem darker

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for me than it was five minutes in, you know

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what I'm saying. Just after it seems to get darker

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and darker. Maybe your eyes aren't paying attention, like what's

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going on outside or whatever.

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I mean, we get pretty dark.

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And but I was realizing when I was pushing on

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the pineal gland, it would almost make it look like

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in the middle of my vision, like it got even

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darker to where it almost looked like like like oil

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coming up out of the ground and starting to like

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spread out.

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This is interesting, So I'm going with it, you know,

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I'm saying.

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I'm still pressing on it, and it turns totally black,

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and it starts to look like almost real fine lines

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of like colors from like a thermal can, but it

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was like thin burning lines like like rainbow, almost like

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if from a rainbow slick of oil in a road. Yeah, yeah,

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it almost looks like that coming out from the edges.

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And then it just totally goes black, as black as

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you're are, way black than it was before. And then

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it almost starts to look like like it almost starts

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to look like it's like moving. And I have even wondered,

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as crazy as it sounds, when we get into it more,

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maybe I'll see why I was wondering about that. But

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I had even thought, like, is that actually not moving?

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And is there some sort of like light, because if

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you shine light on something in a certain way, you

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can make it look like it's waving even though it's

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not coarse.

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You know it. So I see that going on, and

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then all of a sudden, it.

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00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:28.720
Just stops, like like completely, like it just turned to ice.

473
00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:31.200
And then all of a sudden, I see this white

474
00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:36.000
fucking burning dot. It this sounds crazy, even though I'm

475
00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:37.960
in my own head, it looks like it's like this

476
00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.240
distance inside my head between me and this. I would

477
00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.720
call it a blazing star, because I do question if

478
00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:45.440
this was what Crowley's actually talking about.

479
00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.279
I would see this burning white light and.

480
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.640
I would just hold on to it, and like if

481
00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.039
I wasn't pressing on my pineal gland, and it just

482
00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:57.839
sound crazy, almost making my eyes crosssied by looking up

483
00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.400
towards my pineal gland with my eyes closed.

484
00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.160
I would lose. It does just sound crazy.

485
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.400
It's almost like I had to lock on with my

486
00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:08.559
eyes and the pineal hold on to this dot, and

487
00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.759
then it will just stay. And then it starts to

488
00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:14.480
get bigger too. And then like as it's getting bigger,

489
00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:16.839
it's like you see it almost like this black smoke

490
00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.599
starts swrolling around and turns into a sphere in front

491
00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:22.200
of the white lights. So now as it starts to

492
00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.279
get bigger, it's like, okay, this is an eclipse now,

493
00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.720
which is what's all my logo all over the shit.

494
00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.160
So now I got this big eclipse just like fucking

495
00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.799
coming up, and it's in my vision and all these

496
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:40.279
from the like four cardinal angles it whatever directions, colors

497
00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:43.279
start coming out, and it starts to spin and stuarts

498
00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:43.640
to look.

499
00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:44.079
Like it's washed.

500
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:46.480
Like I'm just gonna keep it real, and it starts

501
00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:50.000
to spin and all these linest look like it's verberating out.

502
00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:52.440
So I got this big eclipse in front of me

503
00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.759
and these like those fluorescent colored lines again that looks

504
00:21:55.799 --> 00:22:00.119
like like a thermal camera something like it's like burning colors,

505
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.960
something I have never seen with my eyes open. That's

506
00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:03.480
another thing.

507
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.559
All this stuff looks way different than if I have

508
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.200
my eyes open. It's hard to explain, but it's so.

509
00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:13.200
They're reverberating out, and then all of a sudden starts

510
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.559
looking like fucking explosions or something like around it, like

511
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.960
orange and red. And then at some point the explosions

512
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.119
almost start to look I was seeing it sound weird.

513
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.799
And that's why I use it on one of my logos.

514
00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.480
It almost starts to look like roses blowing and opening

515
00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:32.559
up around the eclipse. And then it's like, so I'm

516
00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:35.559
watching this and I'm still focusing and like my opinion,

517
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:38.240
I'm like, yo, this this is a great fucking free

518
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.680
movie I'm watching right now. I'm not right to god,

519
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.279
I'm not thinking like really anything about this besides like, oh,

520
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:46.559
this is some pretty fucking cool, wicked shit I'm seeing

521
00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:47.240
right now with my eyes.

522
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:48.559
It's spread of.

523
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.519
God, I'm not thinking anything insane about this. I was

524
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.920
even like, Yo, it's would have been cool with fucking stone.

525
00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:54.160
You know.

526
00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:58.519
So I'm this shit, and now all of a sudden

527
00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:00.599
that shit goes away and I start geting like all

528
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:06.039
these all these geometric shapes like spinning, like sacred geometry,

529
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.200
spinning around the fucking eclipse, and a like flashing past

530
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.440
me and like spinning and all this shit.

531
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.039
I was like, oh, this is fucking crazy, you know.

532
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.640
And then I see that it goes for a while

533
00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:19.640
and then all of them a sudden it stops. And

534
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.559
then this is like when I was like, Yo, what

535
00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:24.440
the fuck? If you see my logo, it looks like

536
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.119
movie reels coming out. Now, if you were to like

537
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.279
take away making it look like a movie rail and

538
00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.640
just had windows that were separated from each other and

539
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:36.599
looked like they were just going past you like this,

540
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.200
that's exactly what starts happening. All of a sudden, these

541
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:43.759
these windows that look like they're like Sepias cellophane. They

542
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.839
almost look like like it's like kind of like hinted,

543
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.160
but you can't see it clearly, and you just see

544
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.200
these windows on across your cycle and really slow, and

545
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:53.640
it looks like, I swear to god, I don't know

546
00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.079
what the fuck it is different times of places or something,

547
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.680
but like every one of them has a different image

548
00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:03.200
in it. And one time I actually was interested in

549
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:06.119
because this has happened to me multiple times. For some reason,

550
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.559
I was thinking, what's in that window? What's in that

551
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:11.400
And it's weird. It's like again, when I have this vision,

552
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.400
I don't have a body. I'm just like witnessing something. Technically,

553
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.559
it feels like, so I'm thinking, like, what's in that window?

554
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.759
And it's like my vision starts moving close to it

555
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.039
and then turns to the side and like looks into it,

556
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.480
and I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo, that looks

557
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.000
like was that Arizona or is that a nuclear fallout?

558
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.079
Because it just looked like nothing, like just batmanned. And

559
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:34.000
I'm like, for some reason, I thought, inside my head,

560
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.519
this is a This doesn't look like a place that

561
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.799
I want to visit. I don't know, some reason, maybe

562
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.160
it was an option, I don't know, And as soon

563
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.720
as I thought that, I came right out of it.

564
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.680
But other times when I just kind of let the

565
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:50.079
things go. If I let them go at that point

566
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.640
and just keep going and the eclips like almost starts

567
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:57.599
to get brighter, I'll start feeling physical feelings even within

568
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.720
my body. At that point, I'll start getting like almost

569
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.400
like a trembling in my feet. And it's almost as

570
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.960
if as the trembling moves up. Let's say, the trembling

571
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.440
starts at my feet, by the time I got to

572
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.640
my knees, everything below my knees, it doesn't even feel

573
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.519
like it's there anymore. Is that if as if it

574
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.279
blew away or doesn't even exist, or I'm like erasing

575
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:15.759
my code or some shit kind.

576
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.480
Of like Tron But do you see the guy getting

577
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:18.440
zapted into the computer.

578
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.279
It's almost right. It's like, oh, I said, that's getting exacted.

579
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:21.720
It's gone.

580
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.359
And you know, so it starts to go up towards

581
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.599
closer to like my stomach now, and it's like almost

582
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.519
like I could feel like everything maybe in me is

583
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.559
starting to build up, and then it gets to like

584
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:35.400
up in my head, and at one point, like right

585
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:36.640
out the back.

586
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.079
Of the right where they put the fucking yamica. I

587
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:40.319
don't know if that has something to do with.

588
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:43.200
It literally feels like I'm tarting to like fucking burst

589
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.000
out of the top of my head. And then at

590
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.920
that point it feels like it sounds crazy like water

591
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:49.920
or electricity is something.

592
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:50.799
It just starts.

593
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.799
Flowing from the bottom of all way up, and it

594
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:55.960
feels like, like I've explained it like this, if you

595
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.960
were like laying on the beach and the waves crashed

596
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.480
and the water started rolling up, rolling up the sand,

597
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.319
I guess somehow say, if your feet, the bottom of

598
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.200
your feet were cut open and the water could run

599
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:09.000
through your body, it was as if it just kept

600
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:10.000
flowing right through you.

601
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:13.720
And that started happening. And then as it.

602
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.119
Blew up like out of my head.

603
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.920
Right before that, as this is happening, those screens go

604
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.960
away and all I see is just the eclipse all

605
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.119
by itself. And then it starts to come apart, but

606
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.680
not from right to left like we normally see, just

607
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.000
like Toast's headdress with the crescent moon in the sun.

608
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.000
It starts to separate and it looks just like that.

609
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.119
For a few seconds, you see more of the white

610
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.000
cret of the white and the black moving, and then

611
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.200
all of a sudden, it completely separates and it goes

612
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.759
away and you have this glowing white light, and all

613
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.599
of a sudden, it's like whew. It's as if like

614
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.200
someone put a trigger up to your head and pulled it.

615
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:58.559
You see this, and like literally feels like the pressure

616
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:00.559
that I have been pushing on my tht I that

617
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.799
whole time, Like all of a sudden, it switched polarity

618
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.000
and now everything that I've been pushing is now coming

619
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.839
back at me. And all of a sudden, it's like

620
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.359
you even feel like something in my third eye around

621
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:13.200
my head like crack or explode, and like all of

622
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.480
a sudden, it was just complete white light.

623
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.359
And then I felt as if like.

624
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.519
I burst into like a thousand butterflies, and all of

625
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.279
a sudden, it felt like my whole body and my

626
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.359
whole self just started stretching.

627
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:26.079
The fuck out and fluttering.

628
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:28.839
And then like I just is gonna sound crazy, but

629
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.839
like I've wondered about what the pitch is NASA is

630
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:32.720
showing you, because that's basically the shit that I saw

631
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:34.880
when I was out there, it's gonna look like it

632
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.759
looked like a lot of like out of space to me,

633
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.079
and you're not there. Even at one point it felt

634
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.559
like a little bit like two thousand and one where

635
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.480
they're showing the ending and the show and like that

636
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.960
plane and everything like kind of like stretching.

637
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:47.559
Yep.

638
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.960
It almost literally felt like that I was just being

639
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.359
stretched down to the fabric of reality. But like as

640
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.400
that was happening, all I felt was this feeling that

641
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.000
normally what I would express here as love, but a

642
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.759
million times I'm more intense. And like I've said this before,

643
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.880
no matter what drug or no matter what nut you bust,

644
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.480
it is never going to feel the same as this.

645
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.160
It's something that I have never in those feelings that

646
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.759
I experienced, I have never felt them before except for

647
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:21.400
this experience. And long story short, after I had this experience,

648
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.640
I had it a few more times, and from doing it,

649
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.240
eventually he did end up in the hospital. I bede

650
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.759
a picture about it and put it up recently, and

651
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.599
I have said this for the last fucking four years.

652
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.599
When I fuck with magic, my one pupil blows up

653
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.119
and the other one gets small. Same fucking thing the

654
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.200
liver King's acting out on.

655
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.079
That's what I was about to say.

656
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.039
You fuck with Magic enough, you will act like him,

657
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.559
you will act like Kanye West.

658
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.279
You'll turn into Joe Biden. That is my opinion.

659
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.640
Those people are fucking with magic and that eyeballshit is

660
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:55.759
a side effect of one of them. I had that

661
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.160
happen to me. Doctors had zero fucking clue what was wrong.

662
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.000
Because I said, your eyes, it's still good. They had

663
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.759
me go see a specialist. But when I was in

664
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.559
the hospital, they were saying that whatever I was experiencing

665
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.720
was migraines. But I also had an issue with my

666
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.720
fucking blood. My hemoglobein was jacked up to nineteen point six.

667
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.759
They said it's basically sludge. They had to give me blood,

668
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.079
and they had to give me a bag of sailing.

669
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.880
So what I'm trying to hit that too. I do

670
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.680
think there is actually something in your blood. Maybe it's

671
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.400
like that Star Wars shit. We got this whatever they

672
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.039
call that crap medical, but there's something. I had an

673
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:32.480
issue with that and my eyes, and even now, if

674
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.079
I fuck with that shit or sometimes I can bring myself,

675
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.240
I'll bring myself to the Eclipse and the movies coming.

676
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.680
But I won't let myself blast off, not all the time.

677
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.920
Even if I do that, when I open up my eyes,

678
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.240
I've even shown pictures on Twitter, my pupils will change.

679
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.759
And if you think about Horace, the aion of Horace,

680
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.920
what does he do? He fights and flies? I'm getting

681
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.279
flight and fight both ive.

682
00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:01.200
Yeah. Well, man, I've had similar experiences when I took psilocybin.

683
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:02.960
See, that's what freaks me out about doing any of that.

684
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.599
Ship Yeah, mean said, actually, what the is gonna happen

685
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:06.200
to me if I take that?

686
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.119
Was psilocybin. And I don't know about the eyes though,

687
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.559
but I mean psilocybin's a long hall. That's a I mean,

688
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.759
not like a long haul, but a few hours. Man,

689
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.480
you're in it, yeah yeah, and you you're feeling stuff

690
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.440
and seeing stuff and talking to stuff. Had a full

691
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:28.839
blown conversation with a cardinal. Yeah, like crazy, And I

692
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.960
get I understand the rose I understand the roses. So

693
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.079
I used to also do a practice call. I don't

694
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.599
really I haven't really done it in a long time,

695
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.839
but coherent breathing it's called okay, and it's very focusing

696
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.799
and you're visualizing things coming up from the out of your.

697
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.480
Head or vice versa. Yes, yes, I think that is

698
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:51.079
very important.

699
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.440
So, yeah, it's one of those things like it's it's

700
00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.559
so confusing, right, and you especially as people that want

701
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.119
to like I feel inherently like a good person. I

702
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.559
don't want to tap into anything not good, right, But

703
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.279
it's super confusing because it feels and it doesn't feel good,

704
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.880
Like you said that that feeling of love. That is

705
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:20.079
also the feeling that people that have near death experiences,

706
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.480
people that like, how does how does that you know,

707
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.519
how does that focus in on endes? How does that

708
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.599
come into every time people see the light? It's just love?

709
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:37.599
But is it a counterfeit or is that the same experience? Right?

710
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.759
It's one of those things. Again, this is one of

711
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:43.799
those one of those times I say that we don't

712
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.039
know shit. We don't know shit about anything, and we're

713
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.839
way outside our depth and we can interpret it the

714
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.880
way that we think we can. But unless you've been

715
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.799
you know what I'm saying, dude, soul the shame of

716
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.880
what reality actually is. Yeah, it's like so it's like

717
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.720
one of those things like where do you go with that?

718
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:03.160
Man?

719
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.680
Like, where do you go to. Where do you go

720
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:07.880
with that?

721
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.079
Well, that was exactly how I started the podcast, I guess.

722
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:15.200
So it's funny how this you know, went into that

723
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.599
because my literal question was like those unfamiliar with the

724
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:24.039
co rejects, what inspired you to start the podcast? Yes?

725
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.240
What does the name truly mean to you? That's exactly

726
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:29.000
what I've written now.

727
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.839
Yeah again Now, because I had that experience, I was

728
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.680
just like, this is another thing too, and this is

729
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.279
gonna sound so fucking corny, and I know it does,

730
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.279
or maybe some people don't think it is. I don't

731
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.200
know who cares, but it's very much. It just sounds silly,

732
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.000
very much like the Matrix. Now, I'm not gonna wake

733
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.119
up and be like, oh, I know you know what

734
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.799
I'm saying, like Neo and he's like, so you're going

735
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:51.359
to open up your eyes and know stuff you didn't

736
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.359
know prior. You're gonna open right and things that have

737
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:55.960
confused you before there.

738
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.680
Was you know them, you know them here? Yeah, and

739
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.039
it's like you're being told like you know now.

740
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.400
It's not even like I think it is a fucking

741
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.319
knowing to where it's almost like I've had visions to

742
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.279
where it's just like you'll see all these all like

743
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.160
these visions or all these like tarot cards or all

744
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.079
this stuff, and it's like, for some reason, the way

745
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.039
it's being strung along and you're visualizing it.

746
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.720
You're like, oh my god, I see what it's showing me.

747
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.720
Weird And not that I'm not going to cut you

748
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.200
off and go down some rabbit hole. But like I

749
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.240
know people, So I've I've had a experience where I died,

750
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.039
but I didn't have it. I didn't have a traditional

751
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.079
end like you know, I didn't. I don't remember a

752
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:41.680
damn thing right, but I woke up and I just

753
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.599
know shit and I can do shit. So like I

754
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.480
have enough. So I I feel energy and I see it.

755
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.599
I can see people's I can see people's auras and stuff.

756
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.720
I can tell when something's wrong. I can all these things,

757
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.039
but I don't remember anything. Like so I had an experience,

758
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.359
but I didn't have an experience. And I've met other

759
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.079
folks that have had I call them nonny NDEs, but

760
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.960
they but they definitely died right, and then you know,

761
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.320
had to either get resuscitated in some form or fashion.

762
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.280
They don't remember anything, but now they can walk into

763
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.039
a house and know like if there's good or bad

764
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.800
energy there right like in their gut, like they feel it.

765
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.840
So there's there, there's remnants of that whatever the that is.

766
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.719
There's remnants that have been pulled or opened whatever. I

767
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:41.079
don't know.

768
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.360
So anyway, it was, you know, it was weird, like

769
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.280
just another thing like even like you know, I don't

770
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.679
know if like things change in a person after they

771
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.920
have these experiences. One of the reasons I even had

772
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.159
sent myself to the hospital is besides not feeling good,

773
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:55.760
because my body just felt like it was like a

774
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.920
battery about to explode. I was like feeling like okay,

775
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:00.960
and I was like, you know, let me two blocks

776
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:02.960
of maybe three blocks down the road to the park

777
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.239
and let me just walk around, get outside.

778
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.639
Yeah, like touch touch grass, right, yeah, I'm walking around

779
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:07.920
to it.

780
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.440
And it's like, Yo, this is gonna sound fucking insane.

781
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.000
There would be somebody like me, well eventually would turn

782
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.400
into the person. It would be like somebody walking their

783
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.679
dog down the fucking like down farther to the walkway

784
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.039
in the park and it looks like light fucking shooting

785
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.039
up from the fucking ground, like turning into a two

786
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.719
dimensional picture and then popping into three and I was like, yo,

787
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:28.719
what the fuck is wrong with me?

788
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.239
And didn't take anything I promised go And that was

789
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.639
another thing too. I swear this is not crazy.

790
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.400
I didn't start smoking weed again until COVID because I

791
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.880
was like, Yo, if I gotta fucking go out in

792
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.079
the world and deal with these fucking crazy motherfuckers, I'm

793
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.639
gonna have to start smoking again. I literally quit smoking

794
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.800
weed for about fifteen years, so I wasn't even stoned

795
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.000
when I was doing these rituals, so like there was

796
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.599
no drugs or alcohol even involved when I when I

797
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.920
had these crazy effects, these magical experiences, so that was

798
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.480
even nothing. I can't even choke it up to the

799
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.760
fucking weed. Yeah yeah, so uh yeah. So like even

800
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.880
just that, like just seeing things differently, things, things started

801
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.679
coming into my head that I was just like, Yo,

802
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:09.679
I believed it to be true, and I was like,

803
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.360
if this is real, everything I've been told is a

804
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.519
fucking lie about our existence? Like are you start even

805
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.800
thinking if what I even experienced is what I think

806
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.760
it is, this isn't we've been believed to think that

807
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.159
this isn't normal or possible.

808
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.079
You know.

809
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:24.639
One of the things I do want to get into

810
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.400
with you, and it's something that I do when I

811
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.000
have an opportunity. I do like to try to push

812
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.760
this aspect because I do think it's truthful and if

813
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:34.480
you're gonna get involved in the shit, I think people

814
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.519
should understand what the fuck they're really playing with. But

815
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.320
when it comes to magic, magic, magic like really my experience,

816
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.559
I think you are separating your soul from your body,

817
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.360
and I do think in a sense, you are actually

818
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:48.920
having an NDE. The movie, my opinion, the movie flat

819
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.960
Liners is real, that real because in a sense, I

820
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.199
would say, let's say me and you had that experience

821
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.360
through meditation. We just did it in a natural way.

822
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.599
Their way is a hat cheat code or you know,

823
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.119
they're using drugs and they're you know, trying to keep

824
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:04.880
themselves out for a certain amount of time. We go

825
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.760
into a meditation and we just click out here and

826
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.599
there and then come back. I do believe that, as

827
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.159
crazy as it sounds, if you really want to fuck

828
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.440
with magic and you want to have those same experiences,

829
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.199
you are actually fucking with life and death.

830
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.719
Yeah, and not.

831
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:22.360
Trying to like sound crazier. No, no, actually not all.

832
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.199
The fuck I had no idea what was happening at first?

833
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.199
And if you haven't watched that movie, it's an older

834
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.719
movie from the Flatliners. Watch it. It'll make your head

835
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:30.679
explode a little.

836
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.239
Bit every time they wake up, like don't they understand?

837
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:34.280
And no different shit kind.

838
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.199
Of yeah, and then it ends up turning bad, yeah,

839
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.440
because they start up using it and doing it over

840
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.119
and over again.

841
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.400
That's right, Kanye West.

842
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.320
I'm really yeah, like wow, like just the correlations and

843
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:51.920
the and whatnot. Yeah, it's man, Yeah, you don't even

844
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.360
because again we don't know shit it start.

845
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.519
I think entertaining certain stuff and keeping the whole death

846
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.599
and rebirth as literal, I think a lot of things

847
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.800
might actually start making more sense than the occult when

848
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.639
you start actually wanting to entertain them.

849
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.280
That might actually be literal and not just a free Yeah.

850
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.519
And it just shows you how fine the line is

851
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.599
right to step over doesn't take much.

852
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.199
No, I mean in that too, never not comparing myself

853
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.800
to Jesus, but I mean even that guy Smully said

854
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.079
he died too to have this.

855
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.440
Experience, right, Yes, I mean I'm telling you in religious books,

856
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.239
this guy had to die to have that experience, so

857
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.800
that the death thing and because of those experiences is

858
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.760
what made me start to end my problems with my eyeballs,

859
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:38.920
started making me think, what the fuck's up with the

860
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.639
eyes and this shit?

861
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.639
And that's when I started looking into the eyeballs and.

862
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.599
Like really looking into them, like pictures of them and

863
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.119
learning how they work, and like looking at certain things,

864
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:49.800
and I was just like, Yo, this is old.

865
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.360
There's a lot of occult symbolism in here.

866
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.239
And then eventually ended up doing like a five or

867
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.679
six part series that I honestly wish I could reado

868
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.559
now because it probably be like two hundred times better,

869
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.559
just because me and the people on the show have

870
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.519
like learn so much more since then. In my opinion,

871
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.239
I think one of the biggest secrets of secrets in

872
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.239
occult symbolism is actually they do. My opinion, the Catholic Church,

873
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.039
especially during the Renaissance time, that's all those motherfuckers were

874
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.800
doing was creating, building shit or making stuff that was

875
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.119
just representing the inside of your eyeball.

876
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.440
On what's going on during a magical. A lot of

877
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:24.519
it seems like it to me.

878
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.960
I mean, even certain schiguls you start looking at You're like, wow,

879
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.880
that's exactly how light reflects off of your lens, like

880
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.159
even the you know, maybe I have the universal hexagram

881
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.320
on my arm, depending.

882
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:35.880
On what your lens is doing.

883
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.960
At some point, it looks like that the Hubble telescope

884
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.719
reflects their light like that inside of it, the exit

885
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.519
makes a universal hexagram in order to see the stars. Supposedly,

886
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.199
that's what the light reflection is if the mirror is

887
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.000
inside of the telescope, to see that something's up with that.

888
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.559
It's not all just Dixon demons.

889
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.079
Yeah, so like yeah, like, I mean, people try to

890
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.960
make this still black and white literally right when it's

891
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.440
so much of it's just gray. So it's like in

892
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:09.119
your research though, like what's the relationship between trying to

893
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.280
figure out I guess spiritual warfare let's call it that,

894
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:17.159
and a cult ritual, like how much of what we're

895
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.559
seeing is physical versus metaphysical in nature? Right?

896
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.880
I think when it comes to ritual stuff, you know,

897
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.480
this is really the best answer. Eventually I started having

898
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.719
these experiences without doing any rituals. But I do think

899
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.239
some of this din sound crazy, the LBRP especially and

900
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.559
maybe even the hexagram. I actually do think you are

901
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.719
mimicking your eyeballs movements to have a magical experience. That's

902
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:48.280
gonna sound crazy, but like do your eyeball, your pupil

903
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:51.840
will open up from the four cardinal directions, but when

904
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:56.320
it closes, it screws closed. And a fun fact for

905
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.760
people to may not know this, and a question if

906
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.920
this is why Croley even said magic is in the

907
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.159
asshole or magic is in the butt. But your pupil

908
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.599
is the same muscle inside your asshole, the sphinxter muscle.

909
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.719
That's why it twists closed. So technically your asshole is

910
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:12.159
in your eye.

911
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.199
I guess, so now.

912
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:21.119
Grew closed assholes, right, everybody's got yeah, so that will

913
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.280
spin closed. So now in the ritual, you're going to

914
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.239
the four cardinal directions and you're basically, you know, taking

915
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.920
control of that area. And as you're doing that, and

916
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:33.159
you're in your black robe, like your pupils spinning closed.

917
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.800
And then you're even like a camera, right, it spins

918
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.079
and some people will put salt around their circle and

919
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:46.199
your area serata, you'll start to grow crystal crystalline stuff

920
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.360
around it too. He says, I know this sounds crazy,

921
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.039
but I do think in some of those rituals you're

922
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.480
actually showing either opening or closing of the pupil, which

923
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.320
then starts to dictate light, which is exactly what you're

924
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.320
supposed to be doing in those fucking things. I know

925
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.280
that sounds crazy, but I think a lot of ritual

926
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.960
stuff like put it this way.

927
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.480
After my opinion, after I had a magical experience.

928
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.519
I realized, for me, this is where you really, I think,

929
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.239
have to make a decision, or this is where I

930
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.639
think I will judge. By God, it is a little hard,

931
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:21.840
but I don't want to use that phrase, but it's

932
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.079
the easiest thing for pab most people to understand.

933
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:25.920
But at that point, this is where I think it

934
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:27.039
matters who the fuck I.

935
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.880
Am, because either I'm going to go back and tell

936
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.599
people about my experience and how you can have one too,

937
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.519
or I'm going to use this experience to manipulate.

938
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.719
Motherfuckers and get mine. Yeah.

939
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.920
Because I think you have that experience, you know exactly

940
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.760
who the fuck you are and how the fuck your

941
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.320
mind works and what fear throws shackles on you. For me,

942
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.000
I had to do that was a big thing. I

943
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.079
did a lot of shadow work before this experience. I

944
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.400
started looking at my own mind and started figuring out

945
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.679
why am I run on certain fears? Where the fuck

946
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.400
did I get those from? Do I even agree with

947
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.000
that shit anymore? And I just feel that fucking forgot where.

948
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:03.760
It was going with that. Oh, that you will start.

949
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.400
To realize it is it when you start to For me,

950
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.000
when I started realizing what controlled me, You're like, this

951
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.079
is every other person in the world. It's just somebody

952
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:12.519
has a little buttons that maybe you have to push

953
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.400
a little bit harder. You'll know how to manipulate and

954
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.719
make them on the fucker fear something loves something or

955
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.440
hate something. And I do think that after this experience,

956
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.400
it was just like for me, it's just like you're like, Yo,

957
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.320
this is a where do you go from here? And

958
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.079
that was even some of the reasons why I even

959
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.079
kind of chilled out on doing this shit, because it's

960
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.719
just like at some point after doing this, and am

961
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.119
I just gonna be like you know what, I think

962
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.599
I'm gonna choose the asshole the time?

963
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.719
Yeah, Like you've gotta yeah, And I was like, you

964
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.079
got to a point where you uncovered something that made

965
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.840
you stop digging. Yeah, it was enough for not Yeah,

966
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.559
And like let me let me ask you, though, have

967
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.960
you ever felt like when you're in a state, let's

968
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.280
call it that, where you're being that you feel like

969
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:58.239
you're being watched.

970
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.519
It felt like that afterwards, believe it or not, there

971
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.559
was something that even made me feel like that, like

972
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.800
somehow the people may have known that I had that experience,

973
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.679
Right's and the reasons why I didn't even want to

974
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.280
go back to the place anymore because it's spooky crazy,

975
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:16.840
because I was like, I don't want anybody even picking

976
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.079
up on it, because I was a little confused about

977
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.400
what the fuck happened. I don't need some sick fuck

978
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.639
telling me what my experience was. And then I'm like,

979
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.840
oh my god, okay, that sounds great. I want to

980
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.960
believe that, and before you know what, I'm being pimped

981
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.800
out of mind fucked by somebody at the lodge.

982
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.800
Yeah yeah, what about what about like in danger?

983
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.639
I did feel all that after an experience. Again, this

984
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.320
is reasons why I didn't even want to go back.

985
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.400
I felt like there was like I just wasn't a

986
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:42.880
safe plea.

987
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.639
Yeah, yeah, right now, I know exactly what you're saying.

988
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.320
Somebody go there that something happened. I was like, I

989
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.599
just don't want to go back. I'm good on my own,

990
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.079
thank you.

991
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.400
So, so what I mean this is obviously podcast, It's

992
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.079
called broadcasting seeds. And you know what I do, man,

993
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.039
we've talked, and so I just like to plant seeds

994
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.079
in people's minds and make them think about shit. Right. So,

995
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.480
so for someone getting started to wake up to this

996
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.719
type of stuff right in the world, and it doesn't

997
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.760
matter where you're coming from, doesn't really matter, because you're

998
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.719
everyone's coming from somewhere. Whether you're talking religion, we're talking

999
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:26.199
you know, good, bad, ugly, all of it, right, even

1000
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.639
spiritually dangerous. Some people would will look at it in

1001
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:37.599
that aspect, right, Any rules calm, it's my military background,

1002
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.360
any rules of engagement like that that that you can

1003
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.920
share just so people are safe. Man.

1004
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.719
Like, for one, you know, this is something I even

1005
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:49.519
kind of wanted to get into.

1006
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.760
And I think maybe there's a little bit teetering what

1007
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.119
you're asking about too, in my opinion when it comes

1008
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.280
to magic. If you want to start getting into black

1009
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.400
and white magic, and I even think that's not the

1010
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:01.679
best way to explain.

1011
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.519
It, it's it's the best thing.

1012
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.280
I think what I was doing at one point, Yes,

1013
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.679
I was very interested in trying to control and run

1014
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.639
the world around me. And at some point when I

1015
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.159
started getting into more of the whole spiritual stuff, and

1016
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:16.840
believe it or not, when I got into kabbala war,

1017
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.159
I started getting much more into the idea of God

1018
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.119
and trying to figure that out of my existence. I

1019
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.239
was more focused on me changing so I can have

1020
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.880
a magical experience with God. In my opinion, if you

1021
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.039
want to get into white and black manipulating or not,

1022
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.519
I think that is a difference that instead of pushing

1023
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.960
my will onto the world around me, I'm just trying

1024
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:43.840
to change myself to having an experience with God.

1025
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.239
Those are two totally different things. I would say.

1026
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.199
If you really want to get into magic and playing

1027
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.159
with that stuff, you're going to have to look at yourself.

1028
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.800
It's it's very much psychled social. It's not all as

1029
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.320
glamorous as you know. Everybody would probably say, who's has

1030
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.320
half an experience or know what they're doing. Your first

1031
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.199
things you're gonna do is learn to meditate. That doesn't

1032
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.159
sound fucking fun to anybody. You know, You're gonna have

1033
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.559
to learn to live inside your own head. Just crazy

1034
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.360
as it sounds, and I've even said it on the show,

1035
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.639
and I said, if it stops people from listening, you're

1036
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.360
gonna have to stop possibly listening to ten fucking podcasts

1037
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.559
a day because you don't want to be stuck in

1038
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.320
your own head listening to your own fucking words.

1039
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.000
You're gonna have to figure out why do I not

1040
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.280
like hearing my own head?

1041
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.880
Yeah, you might have to actually learn to deal with

1042
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.199
that the believe in it, and that what I'm getting

1043
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.360
at is is not all like a rituals and glamorous shit.

1044
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.079
You're gonna have to I think actually, if you want

1045
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.119
to do the right thing and help out this world,

1046
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.400
it's gonna have to be much more on changing you

1047
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.559
so you can finally hear God's voice. And my opinion,

1048
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.840
when that happens, you're supposed to share that with people

1049
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:47.239
and will.

1050
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:48.719
Help them have their own experience.

1051
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.480
And again, like when I'm saying, I do think if

1052
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.880
you're going to have that experience, you're gonna have to

1053
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.280
entertain might have to kind of die in a sense,

1054
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.760
And I do believe it is possible that if you

1055
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:07.599
make that sacrifice, you may not come back. And not

1056
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:11.039
trying to make that sound glamorous or edgy or you know, whatever.

1057
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.440
It's just it's the truth. So you really should think

1058
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.320
about what you're going to embark on. If you really

1059
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.039
want to fuck with that shit, you know you could

1060
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:21.639
you could get into it in a wick away and

1061
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.000
maybe just have some fun and make it entertaining or whatever.

1062
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.679
But if you really want to fuck with that shit

1063
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.280
and understand how the people are running this world, you're

1064
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.440
gonna have to do things. But ninety three percent of

1065
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.079
the population ain't willing to do and then you're still

1066
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.679
gonna have to worry about what am I going to

1067
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.800
do with this understanding that I have now that I

1068
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:45.320
haven't had. Yeah, in my opinion, you got have to

1069
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.519
make sure you're a very good person before you even

1070
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.239
get which is the got to figure.

1071
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.280
Out who you are, right, So I guess kind of

1072
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.159
the next thing is like at this time in our world, right,

1073
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.599
are we more like a mass spiritual awakening or are

1074
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:09.480
more people falling under like deeper control. I think both

1075
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:09.960
is coming.

1076
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.320
Actually, I think to people who are NPCs as sheep

1077
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.400
are just gonna fucking get even worse. And I think

1078
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.199
there's gonna be a few it's starting to happen now,

1079
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.880
And I mean just even from my experience at the

1080
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.280
Cosmic Summit, even minus the stuff I told you about

1081
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.679
from the templars, just the stuff that is being certained scientifically,

1082
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.199
and even just how people are starting to go places

1083
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.880
and research stuff. This may sound silly, but I do

1084
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.800
think we're on the precipice of like another occult renaissance,

1085
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:36.880
and I think it's actually very important that either we

1086
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.159
do it die at this point, you know. But I

1087
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.199
do think it's gonna happen. I do think stuff is

1088
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.719
going to start coming out where the mass population is

1089
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.559
gonna have to start questioning what the fuck is like

1090
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.480
maybe understood everything that we have been told, maybe this

1091
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.280
world is a little bit more magical. It will pibly

1092
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.159
be presented in a scientific way, which I think is

1093
00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:59.079
probably the easiest way for humans to be able to

1094
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.400
accept shits a little bit weirder than we thought because

1095
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.719
science told us. But the thing is, if you start

1096
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.639
looking at some of the weird shit scientists are even

1097
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:09.119
getting into. If magicians or occultists were to talk to

1098
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.039
each other, if they're to drop their fucking egos on

1099
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.480
both sides and actually talk to each other, they changed

1100
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.559
the fucking world in a few years because they're looking

1101
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:17.480
at the same shit.

1102
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:18.840
So I do think at some.

1103
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:22.079
Point, even people like myself are luckily come across people

1104
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.920
that are like kind of in the academic world to

1105
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.159
take shit for some reason out of my mouth serious

1106
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.960
that like they are starting to see that, like there

1107
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.719
is a correlation here, and I see it happening with

1108
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.519
more people, And I do think we're we're at a

1109
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.599
spot that I think eventually, hopefully within the next year

1110
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.800
or two, I think we will start understanding more stuff

1111
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:44.679
or or we're gonna perish and just get even worse.

1112
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.559
But I do think we actually, I do think I'm

1113
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:49.840
trying to think positive. Maybe when I was at the

1114
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.320
Cosmics Comet, minus all the fucking templars and the Freemasons,

1115
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.519
but minus all that shit some of the stuff that

1116
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.119
was actually being entertained from an occultist angle, I was like, wow,

1117
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.119
I get like this is this is actually.

1118
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.400
Promising some of this stuff, because right people, you're getting people.

1119
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:07.519
Now that are actually like into like they're studying the

1120
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.840
whole cimatics vibration stuff, and they're starting to realize that

1121
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.360
these things, like they're starting to figure out now that

1122
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.840
churches are made in certain ways that even if the

1123
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.280
person's playing the organ. Because of the way the church

1124
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.679
is designed, the fucking sound is going to be different. Yeah, right,

1125
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:26.000
playing and what's actually being heard is completely different, and

1126
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.800
it's being done on purpose. They're starting to realize that

1127
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.280
certain churches are either used to focus stuff or.

1128
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.719
Actually project it, and they're all on mounds.

1129
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.480
They're starting to realize now that old stuff from the

1130
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.559
medieval times that they thought were castles were actually probably

1131
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.239
power generator. Like the fact that this stuff is starting

1132
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.119
to come up going back hundreds of years, you're gonna

1133
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:49.159
have to start asking how the fuck did these people

1134
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.320
know how to do this? And I think that is

1135
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.679
the stuff that's gonna start getting motherfuckers and be like, yo,

1136
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.679
wait what we've known science for a while. And now

1137
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.679
if you start going back to alchemists from the fifteen

1138
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.440
to six exteen hundred, they're drawing eyeballs and brains inside

1139
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.599
there occult manuscripts, and they're talking about sound and frequencies,

1140
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.679
you know, we're gonna hopefully start going I do think

1141
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.079
there's a possible way that we might actually start going

1142
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.000
back to a little bit of that and people might

1143
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.119
start waking up a little bit. But I think the

1144
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.079
NPCs that don't it's been done for a minute. Yeah, right,

1145
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.199
I do think even that whole covid era was kind

1146
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:24.519
of like we're going to.

1147
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:28.079
See well, I mean, I'm not going to go down

1148
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:32.559
the sparously rabbital this late episode, but I mean, dude,

1149
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.039
all you have to do is look at like fluoride, right,

1150
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.320
And we know what fluoride does to the pineal gland,

1151
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.639
which is what we would call our third eye, right,

1152
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:47.639
hydrofluorosilicic acid and those things and that were literally probably

1153
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.159
being poisoned if you.

1154
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.480
Look into why they even use that, why they started

1155
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.760
using fluoride, it was because it's too expensive to get

1156
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.440
rid of the poison. That it's easier to just distribute

1157
00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.679
it to water like people fucking digested and shout it

1158
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:00.440
out is here.

1159
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.360
You know, it might help your teeth.

1160
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.440
Yeah, yeah, small dozens will help your teeth, but when

1161
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.239
we want to get rid of it, it's too expensive

1162
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.480
of a fucking thing to get like what what?

1163
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:17.559
Yeah? And and you know mind control helps with that

1164
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:18.199
for sure.

1165
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.159
Yeah, the benefits of that ship too.

1166
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:25.320
So anyway, all right, Nick, tell us again, where are

1167
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.119
the best ways is to find you? And no?

1168
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.800
Yeah, uh best ways if you're into video on YouTube,

1169
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:34.320
Uh knock on wood be doing pretty well with that.

1170
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:36.119
Catch a lot of lives on there.

1171
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.079
So if you want to catch shows early before they

1172
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:39.679
hit audio, you might be able to catch some of

1173
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.840
them on there. Rumble and bit shoot for video and

1174
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:46.039
audio on all major podcasts, you know, Sprinker Apples, Spotify,

1175
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:47.320
all those.

1176
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:51.679
Yeah, the things of the stuff, yeah.

1177
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:52.519
Wherever Spriker sends to.

1178
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.199
So yeah, I got all that, And I have the

1179
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.480
Occult Research Institute dot org that has a lot.

1180
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.599
Of the occult rejects on there, even people that aren't.

1181
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:04.039
Necessarily in a cult reject like I got Mario from

1182
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.639
Symbolic Studies and a few other people that have don't work.

1183
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.960
There's some people on there that I've even actually done

1184
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.000
real scientific PaperWorks on or going. We got a guy

1185
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.119
leon on that. So there's a lot of stuff on there.

1186
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.039
It's all forfree to check out. So check out a

1187
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.639
cult research institute dot Yeah.

1188
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.960
That's awesome, and uh donate. Yeah, I'm a coffee, Yeah,

1189
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:24.039
we got buy me a coffee.

1190
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.800
We got Patriot, I got all those, a lot of things.

1191
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:28.760
People can even look at my Patreon. I don't I

1192
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:30.039
think I might have one or two people.

1193
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:32.719
So yeah, I don't even answer advertise.

1194
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:33.719
That's another problem too.

1195
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.360
I feel like it. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure

1196
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:39.159
that's that's a absolutely again, thank you so much for

1197
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:39.920
coming on. Man.

1198
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:40.840
That was great.

1199
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:42.840
That was and we'll do it again.

1200
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:52.719
So he yes, yeah, yeah, yo yoe.

1201
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.559
From the Corners of the Unknown to the Eye of

1202
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.840
the Storm, just that broadcast gospel. Rebel is born, Watching

1203
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.119
shadows start climbing when the church lights them. It's the

1204
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.679
beast that's climate, whispers in the trees, eyes behind leaves,

1205
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:09.440
they say, eight feet tall, with a mind that deceives.

1206
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.559
Bigfoot wearing camo, speaking in tongues. DNA tests came back,

1207
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.599
Angel blood and is lung. I'm playing preacher, I'm spraying

1208
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:19.920
ether dropping salms, and you speaker like a grim gate keeper.

1209
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.719
Cia files with the corners burn while you netflix Hill

1210
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.079
the dimensions turn. Y'all want both a planet it raw

1211
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.920
in the soil with glips from the scrolls and aluminum

1212
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.920
foil mk Ultra dreams, Vatican schemes, falling stars falling deep

1213
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.920
in your live street, decode bar jass from satellites and

1214
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:40.840
the abyss where demons take the mic and false profits hiss,

1215
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.639
but I cut through lies with the righteous blade like

1216
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.400
the archangel Mic in a tactical ray hutang sort swinging

1217
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.599
mixed with revelation, martial arts of the mind, no need

1218
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.920
for station. This podcast states for the fate of the fakes,

1219
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:55.480
for the lions and the den.

1220
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:56.559
That refused to break.

1221
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.000
We light torches in the tunnels of debt, drop bars,

1222
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.400
glyphs that the ancient shallow tune in tap in the

1223
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:07.000
seeds are alive, broadcasting truth till the matrix die. The

1224
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.920
saint cloud. This is mission. This is Kingdom mission, where

1225
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.480
the veils getting thinned and the watcher still listen. So

1226
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:14.800
pull your hoodie low, grab your sword and your scroll.

1227
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.679
We go in deep underground where the secrets unfold