May 3, 2025

Inside the Paranormal: Keith Evans on Haunted Hotels, Spirit Communication & High Strangeness

Inside the Paranormal: Keith Evans on Haunted Hotels, Spirit Communication & High Strangeness
Inside the Paranormal: Keith Evans on Haunted Hotels, Spirit Communication & High Strangeness
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Inside the Paranormal: Keith Evans on Haunted Hotels, Spirit Communication & High Strangeness

In this eye-opening episode of Broadcasting Seeds, host Bennett Tanton welcomes paranormal investigator and author Keith Evans, who shares decades of firsthand experience with hauntings, spirit activity, and the eerie world of high strangeness. From...

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In this eye-opening episode of Broadcasting Seeds, host Bennett Tanton welcomes paranormal investigator and author Keith Evans, who shares decades of firsthand experience with hauntings, spirit activity, and the eerie world of high strangeness. From ghostly encounters in historic hotels to using tech and intuition to communicate with the other side, Keith walks us through what it really means to investigate the paranormal with integrity and curiosity.

We dig into:

The ethics of paranormal investigation
True accounts of haunted locations and spiritual attachments
Why intention matters when dealing with the supernatural
Keith’s unique methods and the stories behind his books
How belief, energy, and environment intersect in unexplained phenomena

If you're drawn to ghost stories, investigative paranormal research, and the thin veil between this world and the next, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.

🔍 Brace yourself—some doors, once opened, don’t close so easily...

Links:

https://www.keithoevans.com/

https://a.co/d/0oo1971 Book on Amazon

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So for for my audience, I just started recording because

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I liked what you were talking about your story, So

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tell everybody who you are and what you do.

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Well. I'm Keith Evans. I'm a paranormal investigator. I've been

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doing paranormal investigation since i was a little kid, which

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my parents weren't very excited about that at all. And

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to this day, the ones that are still living still

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think that I'm certifiable crazy, even though I'm not. And

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they think that anyone believes in ghost spirits aren't very intelligent.

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But I consider myself to be very intelligent, and I

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more or less try to get a personal relationship with

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the ghost of spirit. I don't go in with guns

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blazing thinking that every ghost of spirits evil or demonic.

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I just kind of talked to him. I got to

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talk to anyone else that I met on the street

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that if you want to go to spirit to feel comfortable, if.

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You you have to treat them with respect and treat

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them in a way that they want to talk to you.

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And a lot of times those spirits will choose to

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talk to whoever they find interesting.

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And I'm the type of person I haven't even though

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I lived in Florida, I haven't went fishing since nineteen

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seventy eight and I've never owned a boat. I've only

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been out on a boat a couple of times, and

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most of that was with the army. And I just

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go to spirit may not find me interesting. So those

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people think, well, if you're really good at what you

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do paranormal researching, every goes to spirit will talk to you. Now,

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it's just like in life. Not everyone likes you and

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not wants to talk to you. Not everyone finds you interesting.

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If I go into a place and start talking to

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a person that's decree relentious, they'll just get up and

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walk away from me.

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You know.

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I've told people that I was a paranormal researcher and

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they look at me and say, so, you're a devil worshiper.

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It has nothing to do with that. So people have

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all types of beliefs that aren't true about other people.

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So as a paranormal researcher, I try to be very

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open minded, especially with ghosts and spirits. And I've been

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the places that even where people say it's very very

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negative energy and I haven't seen that, and I feel

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a lot of people missed the true places of great

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anxiety and great loss, like a hospital, as something being evil.

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But you know, if you go into a place where

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there's been a lot of energy where someone found out

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that a loved one died or even the patient found

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out they were going to die, that's a lot of

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residual energy that is pretty negative, even pretty sad, and

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pretty profound. So when you go paranormal researching there, you're

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gonna find it. And you know, you can't always label

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anything that's not pump beat and happy as being evile

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or demonic. So I've always tried to treat the ghost

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of spirits the way I would like to be treated,

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and I think that's the reason why I get my

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paranormal activity when I do paranormal research. And I didn't

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purchase any paranormal equipment until probably twenty eleven, and that's

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when I started working with the lab there in Houston

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for Custom Border Protection as a laboratory of scientific services.

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So I started to make some really good money then

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because I didn't get my degree in chemistry until I

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was fifty, so I got the job with Custom Border

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Protection as a forensic scientist when I was fifty three,

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and you know, I had extra money, and I thought, well,

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why not go ahead and buy some of the paranormal equipment.

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I think the first thing I ordered was the odlass.

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Back then it was OLAS four, and it took a

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while to get it because the company that I ordered

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it from had back long orders. So the second thing

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I ordered was the mailmeter. I got the melometer first

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and started doing paranormal research with that, and you know,

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I really got some good results and a lot of

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you know, high electromagnetic readings. And then when the ALLUS

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four came in, you know, I'd really got some intelligent

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responses right away. And then sometimes I felt like, well,

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I'm just getting jibber jabber. And I think a lot

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of times the ghosts and spirits that are in the

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area or actually communicating between themselves, and you get a

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lot of cross talk, because I don't think you all aspire.

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If they can pick up what a ghost spirit wants

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to tell me, they can probably pick up a conversation

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between two ghost of spirits that you know, they might

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be talking about something atally different than what I'm talking about.

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So I just find that having the equipment kind of

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is like a secondary support to show that your data

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at sometimes is very real and very intelligent responses. Now,

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of course everyone says, well, how do you know it's

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a dead person? Well, possibility. It can be a dead person.

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It could be a person from another dimension who somehow

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can communicate with people on Earth for whatever it means.

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And it could be some type of intelligent space being

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who is monitoring it and responding just for fun, just

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to you know, nag my chain. So there are other possibilities,

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and I can't say for sure what I like to believe.

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In most cases, it's a ghost or spirit that's communicating

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with me. And most of the ghost of spirits that

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I've communicated with or down to earth, they're pretty normal people.

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They're just like us, except they no longer have a

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biological body, and most of them are decent and kind

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and if anything, neutral towards me. I've never really got

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anything that was threatening. One time, I wasn't going to

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paranormal research at all, but how to ghost to spirit?

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You will punched me on the right jaw and it

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just snapped my really quick. I don't do it because

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my neck willar. But that was and I thought, well,

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it could be some type of muscles, but whatever it was,

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I wouldn't want it to happen again. And when it happened,

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I didn't even let on like it happened because I figured,

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I don't want to give the ghosts and the spirit

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that did that any intel on how he's affected me.

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So he does it again. So I really feel that

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if you're ever as a paranormal researcher, if you're ever

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in a frightening position, you know, don't allow the ghost

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of spirits to know what all is happening to you,

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because then they can engage how they can use their

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energy against it. I would say just keep a low profile.

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And I think a lot of times people do their

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acting for TV, and that's why I'll probably never be

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on TV.

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Right, So you actually, you you think what I'd like

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to know is what is what is going on? How

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many different types of ghosts and spirits are there?

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Do you think? Like?

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And I don't need a solid number, but what do

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you think is going on there with different types of

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ghosts or spirits?

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Well, I think once we pass away, there's always a

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possibility that our soul, which is our electromagnetic energy will

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be recycled. So I'm not sure that every ghost and

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spirit who's ever died is always going to stay a uh,

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you know, a ghost of spirit outside of a biological body.

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Probably a lot of them will just be recycled back

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into another biological body. Reincarnation is the term. And all

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I can say is if they if they see say

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they like about you, and just like your friends and

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the family that you do like. You know, if you

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have something in common, it's going to bring you together

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with that ghost of spirit. And I'm most people you

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know use the term attachment, and I find that too negative.

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Are very negative, and I don't see if it goes

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the spirit wants to hang out with me, and you know,

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do things like put down the toilet lead and turn

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lights on and off and open my door and not

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shut it tight. Then I know, you know they're doing

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whatever they're doing, but I don't let it bother me.

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It's a common occurrence. I remember one time I was

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just reading in the dark, I guess from the Army reading,

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trying to read it low light or low sunlight or

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cloudy days without using any light at all. And I

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was sitting in a chair and the ghost of spirit

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turned all the night for me, and I just said

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thank you for turning on the light. So that are

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my common experiences with ghosts of spirits in the place

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that I live right now. I've lived in places where

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there wasn't much going on at all. When I first

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moved from Maryland to Florida back in nineteen ninety three

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so I could be closer to my daughter, I lived

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in a place where if you walked into the bathroom,

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it's good in front of the mirror, you could feel

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wind coming through the bathroom window that was totally shut,

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you know, and you go outside and it's not windy,

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and you know, that was paranormal, and certain areas the

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paranormal that I experienced would be limited. And also in

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that same place, one afternoon, I heard someone say Keith,

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just like that, And I was sitting with no TV on,

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no radio on, just sitting there. It usually happens in

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the afternoon if I'm going to hear my name called.

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It also happened after Hurricane Michael. I was sitting in

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a At that time, I was living at the Hayes House,

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which is where I wrote my first book. I did

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paranormal research there for about a year and wrote the

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book The Hayes House Ghost of People Too. I don't

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see if I can get it aimed so the people

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can see the book. Can you see it pretty good?

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Yeah?

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Now the Hayes House goes for People Too. It's no

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longer in paperback, but it's still available on kindle. And

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I stayed there after Hurricane Michael because the place I

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was living at Mexico Beach just got destroyed. So when

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I moved into the Hayes House, the owners had found

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out about my place being destroyed, and they said, well,

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why don't you were in the third floor apartment, and

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I'm so glad I had that opportunity to live there,

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even though it was a short period of time. They

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sold the Hayes House in March, so I was only

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there from the end of October to maybe the first

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of March. But while I was there, I all my

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paranormal equipment got destroyed and marshed away during the storm

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surge of Hurricane Michael. So I was able to purchase

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anometer and a thermal immature, and that's the only thing

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I had during that period of time. I wish I

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could have had to obspy b I ordered it from

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a company that never ever sent it, and they finally

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gave my money back, which took about six months. My god.

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While I was there one afternoon, I was sitting in

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a chair and it was at the four fatherth east

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side of the room, and I heard a voice from

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the opposite corner, the southwest side of the room say Keith,

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And I thought, well, maybe.

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I didn't lock the door at the bottom of the steps,

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because the third floor apartment, your door, this looks like

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a closet door, but you open it up and it's

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a very narrow stairway that goes up to the third

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floor apartment.

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So I thought somebody probably walked up and wanted me,

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and I looked up and nobody was there. So it's

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only a few times in my life I've heard someone

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say my name, and it's always I would say.

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Brown.

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Say one pm to about three pm is the area

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of time that it happens, which is kind of unusual,

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so I have no ideal it could have been. It

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was a voice that sounded like a lady, not a

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high pitched pitch voice, but a regular type tone female voice,

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so it could have been Kathleen Hayes I have heard

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her voice on historical tapes where she was talking about

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the history of Apalachicola. So anyway, I really got to

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do a lot of in depth paranormal research that's not

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even in the book because I had already published a book.

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I think it was Ogust or early September twenty eighteen

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and Hurricane I'd go a hit. I think it was

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October tenth, twenty eighteen. But in a house, so much

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happens when you're not even trying to do paranormal research.

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Like when I would lay down to go to sleep,

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wide open. Here someone stomp across the floor from the

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east to the west in front of my bed. And

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there's nobody there. And I'm a little over two hundred pounds.

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And when I got up and tried to stump, I

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couldn't make a stomping sound. It's impossible. I think there

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was a rug on the ground, but no matter how

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hard I try to stump, it's just impossible. So my

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theory there is it could be some type of residual energy.

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And also laying in bed, it would so like somebody

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just about the steps to the Hayes House. The front

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stairway had two landings before you got to the top,

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so it sounded like somebody was about two or three

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steps from the second landing and then ran and stopped

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slumped as they got there, and then turned and came

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up the other two steps. But there was ever anyone

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in the house, and when I looked, nobody was there.

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So the unusual running up the stairs, and it was

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always in that same area, and I would say almost

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towards the top of the stairway. So stuff like that

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probably would have been very interesting for the book. I

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didn't have a chance to live there now. The owners

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who owned Hayes House, they had given me a you know,

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written permission for the book and the do paranormal research,

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and they also had given me a key, so I

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could have went and just discreetly stayed overnight, but I

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never did. I always just went on today and let

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them know when I'm coming and let them know when

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I'm leaving. Because it was a three story Victorian style

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house that was built in nineteen oh eight by Jeff Buck,

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and so they used it as like Airbnb. They went

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out space for artists in apological to the coming paint

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because Apologicala is a big art town, and so it

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was used for a number of things over the years.

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And at the same time, I was very discreet about

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my paranormal research because some people they don't want to

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do or stay or sleep in a place where someone

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has done paranormal research. That's how touchy most people are

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about the ghost of spirits. And it doesn't phaze me

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a bit.

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So how many books have you written?

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Well? Two altogether. The Hayes House Ghosts or People Too

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was written in uh well, published in about late August

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or early September twenty eighteen, and then my second book,

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Vampire's Dad or Alive, was published October of twenty twenty four.

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I can show you that book right now, can you

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see it? Yeah, I'll show you the back.

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Yeah, I'm gonna I'll put links to the to well.

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Can you still buy the Hayes House book or not?

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You can, but only as an e book? Oh?

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Gotcha?

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As an e book?

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If you send me the link where people can buy that,

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I'll put that in. I know you can buy the

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other book on Amazon, you know.

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I used to add the links and I don't know

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where I put them.

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A storm, yeah, or I'll just find it then, but

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I don't know it comes.

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It seems like me and computers are just not compatible.

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It's like today I try to switch I guess over

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to another server with my email, yeah, and it just

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didn't work right. So and when it opened up, it

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only opened up a really small window. So I might

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have to switch back or see what I can do

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to change that. But it looks like from now on,

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I'm going to be on my cellphone with any podcasts

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that I do.

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Yeah, sometimes it's easier.

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Yeah, I agree. The book Vampire is Dead or Alive.

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It's kind of like a lifetime of me thinking about

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van vampires. I always enjoyed the TV program when I

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was in middle school calling the Our Chhadows, and it

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came on in the evening.

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Yep.

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So I always kind of felt like Barnabas Columns was

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a hero. I liked him. I thought he was cool.

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So I always wondered how the vampires do what they do.

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And you know, everyone thought of a vampire as being dead,

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and so my book pretty much takes every chapter is

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a characteristic of a vampire, and it looks at as

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a vampire more like a dead person or a living person,

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and then it takes the characteristic. For instance, like if

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the characteristic is they're able to just disappear to fin air,

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I try to explain how they do that, and more

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or less, I think some way a vampire can warp

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space and time. They have some type of small black

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hole where they can warp space and time just for themselves,

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not for the whole environment that they're in. And when

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they whip space and time, they can go back to

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when they were just a spirit it did not have

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a biological body. And I think that's how they're able

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to just disappear and fit air. So yeah, that's that's

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the way the book goes. And the book is short,

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it's a little less than fifty pages, but there's no fluff,

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there's no build up to it. There's just the information

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that is new and information I think people would like

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to know. I've always wondered, how does a you know,

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a vampire or change into a you know, shape shift,

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change to a bat or a waterwolfware how does a

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vampire stand in front of a mirror and not have

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a reflection. So I tackle characteristics like that by you know,

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staying personally what I think and using scientific methods and

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scientific everything from genetics to astro space type of subjects

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like black holes and grown holes to describe how I

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feel a vampire can do what they do and how

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many did people? You know, people will have a reflection

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in a mirror, so anyway, so the fact that a

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vampire was dead would not preclude it from having a

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reflection in a mirror. But anyway, I tackle different ways

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that a vampire may avoid having reflection in a mirror.

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And if you can bend light around you so light

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don't hit you, then there's possibility to stand in front

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of the mirror and not be seen theoretically, and also

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if you are being projected straight into a human being's brain,

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you know, I don't know they call it, I'm trying

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to think of the term. But you can just send

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your faults in your audio so that only that person's

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brain is seen in it. Then you're not physically there.

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So if that's being done, then you won't have a

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reflection in a mirror.

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True.

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True, So you I've I've seen a bunch of videos

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of you looking at graves or like cleaning up around

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them and stuff.

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So what's what's that all about?

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Well, usually it's in some cases I'm actually doing to

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clean up. In other cases, I just go to places

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that someone is taking care of it. One reason is

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that it's much easier to see the tub stone if

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someone can cut the trees around it or the limbs

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around you know, the bottom of the tree that's growing there.

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But I also like to show that we have a

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responsibility to preserve the cemeteries, yeah, because if we don't,

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they're gonna be lost the time.

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Yeah, So I try to do.

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An educational type thing about paranormal communicating with the dead

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and also how to respect and save these old cemeteries

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so they just aren't lost the time. And one way

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to respect to stab them is to cut the trees

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down and don't let the trees grow in the first place,

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and just plant nice grass and keep it cut. And

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at the same time, trees and pollen will build up

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on tombstones after one hundred or so years, and you'll

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get a very black or dark colored yellow type tombstone

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which can be cleaned off. But I've never cleaned the

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tombstone before. I've taken rooms and swept dort off of

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and leaves and stuff like that. Lead grass and all

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off of the top of full grape cradles, and some

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of the full grade cradles have really interesting designs on them,

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so you can't really get the benefit of it if

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there's dirt and debris on top.

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So, but.

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I would have more people would just take it upon

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themselves to go out and if they see a graveyard

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where grasses and being mowed, you know, take a weed

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eater and just work an hour and get as much

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done as you can. And then if someone sees you

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doing it, they might say, well, I'll go do it

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for an hour. Yeah, and then you know, one hundred

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years from now there will be a paranormal research. You're

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in there enjoying the one paranormal research at the gravestones

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and pretty happy that you had the fourfall to save

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it for them.

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Have you ever seen there's TikTok's and videos of there's

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YouTube videos too of the people that clean the gravestones

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and then they tell the story is at the same time.

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I've seen that right now, I'm not on TikTok, I

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was for a while, but I have seen I guess

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you say, videos like that, Yeah, I think it's interesting

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and it's it's good because they were much needed to

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stay the tombstones because it's very I find it very

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interesting when you do a paranormal research at a tombstone

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it's one hundred years old. I just I think that's

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so cool, and we need people to save and preserve

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those tubes for future generations and paranormal researchers. Yeah.

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I am.

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Working on a documentary and two of those. Two of

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the places that we're doing the documentary is in two

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separate graveyards in the area that I live in. And

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one of the things that I've been doing and I

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haven't I haven't done it yet. I've done it, but

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I haven't listened to the recordings yet. Has done a

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bunch of EVPs at different places within them, but I haven't.

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We've held off because we want to film ourselves listening

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to it.

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But either way, I that's one of my favorite things.

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And I think it's because it's peaceful, is actually going.

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I used to eat lunch in a graveyard because it

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was just peaceful there and I didn't hear anything but

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the birds and the trees. So I have an affinity

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for graveyards. It's one of my things that I like

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to I don't know. I'm just attracted to it for

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some reason, not in a weird way.

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Just you know, I just am.

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So.

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You know, it used to be that people would pay

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respect to their relatives and friends that had passed away

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and on the weekends of pack picnic lunch and go

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to the graveyard and eat just to be, you know,

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in the air where their friend is buried. So that

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was very popular. I've read different things about that in

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the turn of the century, that graveyards are more like

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parks where people would go to do that. Now today,

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most graveyards are overgrown and unless I go there and

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do a lot of footage to say we're on that,

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they start taking care of it. So I guess I'm

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good for something, right.

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The only the only graveyards that I see that are

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usually really.

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Maintained are the.

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Like the Veterans' graveyards or the National cemeteries. But they

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actually contract people that take care of those, so you know,

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not everybody has them, right. But the two graveyards that

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we've that we've been investigating.

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At are both very well run. So that's nice.

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You don't have a lot of you don't have any

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overgrown stuff and whatnot. And they maintain the roads and everything.

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And some of those I think one of them is

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because it's a Catholic cemetery, so I think the church

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actually contracts people to take care of it.

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And then the other one is is a.

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I guess it's a for profit thing, but the company

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that owns it actually has a maintenance crew that does work,

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so it's it's good to see. But some of these,

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we have a bunch of old like I would say

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they're either family cemeteries or like old soldier cemeteries like

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from like the Revolutionary warren stuff, or somebody goes and

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maintains them. I just don't know who. But those are

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really cool spots because you've got gravestones from the late

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seventeen hundreds even and it's it's pretty.

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There's just an air to them that's really neat.

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At one time in America they used to allow people

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to just their loved ones on their property.

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Right, So.

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Of course you'd say lot of money, Yeah, well I

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don't stay in the family. Whoever comes in may not

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cat for it the way you would.

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Yeah, we actually have a My family has a family

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cemetery in Illinois on the old on the farm where

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my family started basically, and part of that is the

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family cemetery and there's still area around it, but it's

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because I have a grave site there. There's everybody around

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has got there's room for everyone, and that was we

473
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.960
sold the farm, but that area is deeded to our family,

474
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.240
so we still own the family plot.

475
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:48.799
So it's yes, we still own it. So yeah, and there's.

476
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.400
Yeah, family members all the way back to the mid

477
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.559
eighteen hundreds buried there, so it's pretty cool.

478
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.599
It's a pretty good, cool slice of history.

479
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:04.359
Yeah, that's good.

480
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:12.519
So give me one of your favorite paranormal investigations that

481
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.519
you've done. Tell me the story, just choose one.

482
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:25.119
Well, I had an interesting situation that took place at

483
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:33.759
the eighteen eighty Victorian in Saint Augustine, Florida. You ever

484
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.720
had given me, you know, written permission to do a book,

485
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.400
and which I haven't done yet, but I mentioned it

486
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:46.079
in my in my book Vampires Said or Alive. So

487
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.960
the eighteen eighty Victorian is mentioned in there, but only

488
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:55.119
in one aspect, and that was a young lady that

489
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:01.480
I thought was the owner's daughter. And you know, everyone

490
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.400
in Florida who's weight is either red or brown, because

491
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.359
of the hot sun, and this young lady was just

492
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.519
pale white, so I thought, well, she must not go

493
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.519
out in the sun much at all. And she had

494
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:21.000
like shoulder left brown tight curly hair, kind of like

495
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.880
what Shirley Temple had, yeah, when she was young and

496
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.599
would do all those tap dancing. But this this young

497
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:34.039
lady had like dark brown hair or black, and she

498
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.119
giggled a lot, like she thought everything was funny. So

499
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.880
I thought she was the owner's daughter. And then it

500
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.559
came down. I was there for about two months. It

501
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.719
was right during COVID, So the first week that I

502
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:54.880
was there Saint Augustine, this is like downtown, the old

503
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.599
city part of Saint Augustine with the very narrow one

504
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:03.360
way streets, and everything was shut down, and it seemed

505
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.880
like that week pattern Arna was like bouncing off the

506
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.400
walls as almost like they goes to spirits. Knew something

507
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:16.559
was wrong when there's no people walking around right downtown

508
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.159
on the streets of Saint Augustine. But anyway, I saw

509
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:25.000
the young lady at least three times, no two times,

510
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.320
and that was when the order came down the first time,

511
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.400
and the owner came down the first time. There was

512
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.679
like nobody in town except me and his family. So

513
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.880
you know, when you heard the corridor shut, you looked

514
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.599
out to see what was happening.

515
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.760
And I saw him and his wife, his sister, and

516
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.679
a young lady, four of them walking in and they

517
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.079
came in.

518
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.559
I met them on the side of low and he

519
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.119
never introduced a young lady and I thought, well, that's strange,

520
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.440
and I thought, well, maybe you know she's a teenager

521
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:07.119
and shy, and he just spared her. So anyway, the

522
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.760
second time they came down, during the two months I

523
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:16.880
was there, they came down like on weekends. All four

524
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.599
of them were setting on the front porch. At that time,

525
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:25.760
they had four rocking chairs. When I was there, gentleman

526
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.400
from off the street sat down and grabbed one, so

527
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.119
then after that it was down to three. But while

528
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.760
there was still four rocking chairs, the young lady was

529
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.320
sitting in the one closest to me as I was

530
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.159
walking up for my walk to go into the first

531
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.000
four front porch, and then next to her, I thought

532
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.639
it was her father, the owner of the house, and

533
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.320
then next to him was his wife, and next to

534
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:56.039
his wife was his sister. And he invited me to

535
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:57.719
sit down, and I thought, well, I don't want to

536
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.880
chase the young lady out in her chair, so I said, no,

537
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.039
I'm gonna go on in. I just had a walk.

538
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.519
I'll talk to you all later. And then he introduced

539
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:09.239
himself and his wife and his sister, but never introduced

540
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.679
the young lady. So I looked at the young lady

541
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.400
and I said, I used to in school, and she

542
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.280
just kind of giggled and never answered me. And then

543
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.480
he answered me like I was talking to him, which

544
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:22.239
is kind of like.

545
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:23.960
You.

546
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.719
He said, no, I've been out of school. Wow, I don't.

547
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:31.280
I'm not in school anymore. So I got well, that's

548
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.280
kind of strange. So the bottom line, to make the

549
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.280
story short, nobody else can see the young lady except

550
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:38.559
for me.

551
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:39.800
Wow.

552
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.960
So I tied that into my book. When it comes

553
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.800
to vampires dead or alive as a characteristic, the only

554
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.760
one that I can think of where I'm not saying

555
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.000
the young lady was a vampire. And I think goes

556
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:03.119
to stredits can manipulate your brain so that you can

557
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:08.599
see and hear them audio wise and visual wise, and

558
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.360
I think that's what that young lady was doing. She

559
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.840
was sending her information. So I was the only one

560
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.960
they could see her, hear her, and if she was

561
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.079
going on purpose, I'm not sure if she understood what

562
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:26.599
was happening, because she was giggling, because I think she

563
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.519
thought it was funny that I was the only one

564
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:29.239
that could see her.

565
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:30.880
Yeah, of course.

566
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:37.960
And well I actually saw the second time that the

567
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.679
owner was down. He told me they would be leaving

568
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.800
early Monday morning and flying out and I would have

569
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.800
the place all to myself. So that morning I got

570
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.760
up early and was getting ready to do paranormal research,

571
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.599
and I think I walked out with the camera on.

572
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.480
I was getting ready to go out anyway and do

573
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.559
a pir normal research in the hallway and then go

574
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.880
up to the second or third floor apartment in complete

575
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:10.519
paranormal research. So I heard a knock on the outside

576
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.800
of the door, and I had heard a couple months

577
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.559
in that area, but it was usually dark out, you know,

578
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.360
late at night, and I didn't go outside to see

579
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.960
who it was. So this time I was standing there

580
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.039
for all my equipment, getting ready to go out anyway.

581
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:27.519
So open up the door really quick. That young lady

582
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:27.920
was there.

583
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:29.280
Wow.

584
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.639
They had like these flower vases full of stuff. I

585
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.440
think one flower vase was full of information about what

586
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.400
to do while you're in Saint Augustine, and another one

587
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.880
was like filled with like matches or whatever. So she

588
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.760
took something out of one of those vases and it

589
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.840
tapped against the wall. So I here, well, that was

590
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:01.119
just accidental, and she had it was all over the floor,

591
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.079
you know. It was the entrance way in hallway going

592
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:11.639
up to the stairway. And she said she could never

593
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.039
figure out how to separate the lights and the clothes

594
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:18.159
and which ones for the hot which ones for the

595
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.360
cold water. And I said, well, I just throw all

596
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.400
mine in together, and she giggled and laughed about that,

597
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.039
and I think I even asked her. I asked her

598
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:34.599
if her name was Margaret, because she looked like a

599
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:42.119
young Margaret Key, which I had been to her house

600
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.599
to try to do paranormal research, and I was never

601
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.760
able to get permission from the owner. But anyway, I

602
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:56.199
had actually had a dream about Margaret Key after I

603
00:40:56.440 --> 00:41:00.280
went to her house and asked At that time, I

604
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.199
never asked the owner for permission. I just wanted to

605
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.000
see what it looked like inside. And it was brilliant.

606
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:15.679
It was original wood. It was original wood, horizontal wallboards, ceyboards,

607
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.960
and floorboards. Everything was original and you can see the

608
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.199
original grain had ever been painted over. You can see

609
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:31.840
the original you know, wolving grain. And you know it's

610
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.599
just to me that that table wood is beautiful.

611
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:35.199
Now.

612
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.599
Some of it may have been painted over, but if so,

613
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.920
he restored it to its original look. So anyway, that weekend,

614
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.679
I went back to Texas. That's when I was still

615
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.920
working for custom Border and Protections and forensic scientists, so

616
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.880
I would take the long weekend and you know, go

617
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.880
to Florida. So I when I got back into the car,

618
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.639
it was a rental car, and in the real car,

619
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:03.800
it was the first time that the seat belt need

620
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.679
fastened coming on. That meant there was a spirit sitting

621
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.840
in the seat. Now I figure, well, it's probably Margaret Key,

622
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.559
because I knew she was the last person that lived

623
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:20.280
there and when she passed away, the house was sold.

624
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.800
So I told her, I said, you know, I'm getting

625
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.800
ready to go out of town, and you know, if

626
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.719
you don't go back now, you'd have to go to

627
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.119
Houston with me. So I guess that was five miles

628
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.960
outside west of the Apple at Chicola, and a seatbelt

629
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.880
needed fastening light went off, so I knew she had left,

630
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:47.800
but that weekend. For the next weekend, I actually had

631
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:53.360
a dream and then the dream this was Margaret Key.

632
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.760
That's her marry name. I don't know where her maiden name.

633
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:02.039
But in the dream, I was in an old second

634
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.239
floor kind of like Victorian type home and it was

635
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.480
almost like I was with a relator that was trying

636
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.679
to sell me the house where I was just kind

637
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.800
of looking at the house for a future paranormal research prospects.

638
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.880
So anyway, I read a lady crying and it seemed

639
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.960
like a realtor didn't pay any attention. So I walked

640
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.239
out in the hall to see who was crying, and

641
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.599
there was an elderly lady with gray hair walking up

642
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.880
the steps, and she kind of had curly gray hair

643
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:40.480
like this but not similar, but simply not like the

644
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:46.000
young lady that I saw at the eighteen eighty eighteen

645
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:52.800
eighty Victorian in Saint Augustine. But anyway, the lady that

646
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.119
came up the steps, she faced turned away from me

647
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.320
and faced into a mirror. There was a at the

648
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.320
top of the steps, and I felt so sorry for

649
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.079
I hugged her and she just said I must not,

650
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.760
and then that was the end of the dream. But

651
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.159
I could see her face clearly by looking into the mirror,

652
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.800
so a lo I liked the young lady that I

653
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.599
saw at the eighteen eighty Victorian, and that was in

654
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:31.440
twenty twenty, and the situation that dream that I had

655
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:38.960
was probably somewhere between twenty thirteen and twenty sixteen, because

656
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:45.679
I retired in twenty sixteen. So anyway, I asked a

657
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.639
young lady if her name was Margaret, and she said,

658
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:54.960
how do you know my name? You know? So yeah, yeah,

659
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.639
that was kind of strange, and I didn't when all

660
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.760
this was going on. You know, as a season paranormal

661
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.800
researcher is humbling because I did not know that I

662
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.880
was talking to a ghost or spirit that no one

663
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.480
else could see, and it just seemed to me like

664
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.239
as a ghost or spirit, she really didn't have any

665
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.440
overwhelming message for me. I did ask her to do

666
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:26.639
paranormal research with me because I thought, well, if you're

667
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.639
going to be here on Monday, it might be good

668
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.639
to have a family member with me, because sometimes there's

669
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.039
a good trigger object to get ghost of spirits to

670
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.920
warm up to you and communicate with you, yeah, and

671
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.760
she didn't want any parts of that. And this is

672
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.199
while I was talking to her, while the clues were

673
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:48.400
on the ground. So anyway, I went back in my apartment,

674
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.559
took my equipment and said, well, I'll wait until she

675
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.639
goes home. Because I'm trying to remember. She either said

676
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.039
she was going to go home later that day or

677
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.760
the next morning. I'm pretty sure it was later that night.

678
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.599
She said she had a flight. So I went back

679
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.039
in and I don't know what I was doing. I

680
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.679
think I was looking at videos, and at that time

681
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:18.000
I was putting them title, giving them a title, and

682
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:24.880
putting them into my long term storage on my external

683
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.760
hard drive. That way I would match out my hard

684
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.199
drive on my capter. So I got busy doing that,

685
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:35.639
and about an hour went by, and I figured, well,

686
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.360
hour was enough to do a couple of load to close,

687
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.280
And I said, you know, I don't hear the worship

688
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.760
drawing board and the worsher drivers right against the I

689
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.880
guess you could say the roof wall of my apartment.

690
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.559
I was staying in an apartment number one at the

691
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:56.400
eighteen eighty Victorian there in Saint Augustine. So I opened

692
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.519
the door and looked out, no clothes on the floor,

693
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:06.079
the marcher and the dryer were empty, and I didn't

694
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.400
hear anyone go up and down the steps. Now, you

695
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.400
can get busy doing something to just tune everything out,

696
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:18.920
so that's the possibility. But my apartment, anyone going up

697
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.400
to down the steps, and even when I went up

698
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.199
and down the steps, even if I tried to be quiet,

699
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:30.719
it was like clone clon Clum, just a vibrating, you know,

700
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.719
noise machine when you stay. So anyway, I went up

701
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.960
to the second floor and the third floor to check

702
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.519
to see if she was in either rooms. She wasn't there.

703
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.320
There was nothing in either room. The doors weren't locked,

704
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.440
so she had already left and I didn't even hear it.

705
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.480
And I thought, well, that was strange. You know, the

706
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.800
whole thing seemed strange to me. But I didn't think

707
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.320
about her being a ghost or spirit until theater on,

708
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.000
but I thought she could, you know, I was thinking

709
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.199
maybe she was Margaret Key, because she looked a lot

710
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.320
like the elderly woman that I gave a hunt joke

711
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.559
coming up the steps crying. And I found out later

712
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.320
on I was talking to different people in that black

713
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:25.559
Chacola because I'd always go back and visit. And I

714
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:27.679
talked to one lady and I asked her, I said,

715
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.480
have you ever been in the keyhouse when missus Key

716
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.159
was alive? And she said yes. She said that she

717
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:40.440
had been like like home nursing or whatever at one time,

718
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.679
and she had been there on a regular basis. And

719
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.519
I asked her, was there a mira at the top

720
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.480
of the steps on the second floor. She said yes,

721
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.079
How would you know? And I said, well, I've never

722
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.760
been there, but I was. I just told her I

723
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.000
was told about it because I didn't want to scare

724
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:02.280
her off, like yeah, yeah, right, normal researcher. I wanted

725
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.239
more information, so she actually I asked her what was said, well,

726
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.880
what's the story behind the mirror? Because I knew that

727
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.800
something involved that mirror and she was crying about it.

728
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.519
And that's when the lady told me. Well, she said,

729
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:18.199
the neighbor that.

730
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:21.599
Lived next to her in the large house towards the

731
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.079
south of her property came and got that mirror when

732
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.519
she passed away, and she wanted that mirror to stay

733
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:30.199
with the house.

734
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.719
Now, I don't know, you know how great that mirror was.

735
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.239
Some of the old mirrors had some really good decorative

736
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.360
wood and trim and were very very attractive type wood

737
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.360
around him. So anyway, that's what that dream was about.

738
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.320
And I had an opportunity to go to this gentleman's

739
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:55.199
store and bring it to his attention. And I just

740
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.760
looked at him and I said, you know that mirror

741
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:04.000
that was at the top of missus keys stay away

742
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.280
on the second floor, and he automatically got defensive, Oh,

743
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.840
that was mine. I'd given that third ear to borrow

744
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.719
and I just took it back when she died. So

745
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.079
all the menue, you got defensive, and I just said, well,

746
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.280
I think that missus Key would like you to put

747
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.159
it back, And I said, would you please consider putting

748
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.960
it back? And then I just walked out. And I

749
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.480
think that's what she wanted me to do, at least

750
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.199
that's the message I got. So I then give him

751
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.159
some spirits do communicate with me. I try to pass

752
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.119
the message on in a way that I think they

753
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:40.679
would like it to be passed on.

754
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:42.119
You know.

755
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.960
Yeah, I had no idea if he ever put it back,

756
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:52.480
But he got really defensive right away. It was like

757
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.760
it wasn't no denying or not knowing anything about a mirror.

758
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.639
He just came off right away. That was mine. I

759
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:01.320
give it to her. I lent it to her, so

760
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.320
when she died I got it back. Yeah, it's said away. Yeah,

761
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:12.280
people would will just put well a dead Christian once

762
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.840
just they don't care anymore once they pass away, and

763
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.199
they just do what they want with that dead person's

764
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:21.800
property if they can get away with it.

765
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.840
It's yeah, yeah for sure.

766
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:33.159
So I'm really hoping to go back and check out

767
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.119
the eighteen eighty. I didn't want to write a book

768
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.199
about the eighteen eighty until I get a chance to

769
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.519
go back and see if this young lady reappears.

770
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.679
Yeah right, that's interesting, though I know.

771
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.599
That chances are slim to none because brutally, brutely it

772
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.880
never happens. That had never happened to me before. But

773
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.760
before I write the book about the eighteen eighty Victorian,

774
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.840
I would like to go back. And I haven't traveled

775
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.760
much since twenty twenty one. I have a kidney problem,

776
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.599
so chronic kidney disease, and a lot of times your

777
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.719
bullet pressure is all over the place, like the high

778
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:18.760
one minute, low the next. And I had a couple

779
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.599
of different doctors to keep one of the change my medicine,

780
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.760
and I say, my god, every time you change my medicine,

781
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:30.920
it froze me for a really, really bad time. So

782
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.719
I finally got a doctor I was able to talk

783
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:38.320
came into taking me off the medicine, and just I

784
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.360
would monitor it. And it goes up and down if

785
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.480
I see something, if something happens in my life, I

786
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.199
think it's unfair and I don't like it goes up.

787
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:53.159
If I'm having a relaxing day, it goes your way down.

788
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.119
So I'm not on any blood pressure medicine now. And

789
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.400
after they took me off that blood pressure medicine, my

790
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:08.159
kidneys were functioning up to fifty and a little over

791
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.280
fifty percent. But when they kept changing that blood pressure medicine,

792
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.920
my kidneys were like functioning maybe thirty three percent.

793
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.159
Yeah, it's no good.

794
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:22.239
So so now I'm I'm I'm happy with the way

795
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.639
things are going with that. So I think I'm going

796
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:26.960
to try to get some time to go back to

797
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.800
Saint Augustine, maybe a two week period at least, and

798
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.960
stay there. Yeah, that that lady goes to spirit follows

799
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.840
up with me, because I really like to know who

800
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.360
she is and if I'm the only one that can

801
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.840
see her. You know, when when people so called people

802
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:53.760
that have psychiatric conditions, usually when they see something or

803
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:58.639
hear something it's negative. They very rarely hear or see

804
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.960
something and it's neutral or positive. And like with this

805
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.280
young lady, it was almost as if she was shocked

806
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.960
and old that I could see her, because she just

807
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.280
kept giggling about it. Yeah, you know, so it's almost

808
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.199
like she did not expect me to be able to

809
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.360
see her. So that could be me having some abilities

810
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.679
to be able to see some ghosts and spirits at

811
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.440
a certain frequency. I don't think all ghosts of spirits

812
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.760
are at the same frequency. And if their energy is

813
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.679
it that a frequency that we have the ability to see,

814
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.880
because our eyes are limited to what we could visually

815
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.079
see frequency wise, then we're not going to be able

816
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:45.519
to see them even if they are there.

817
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.079
Yeah, but.

818
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.000
Have you seen other like I mean, like like the

819
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.360
way that you saw her, Like you really couldn't differentiate

820
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:03.320
whether she was real or not, right, have you seen other.

821
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:06.079
Ghosts like that too?

822
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:08.800
It's very rare.

823
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.480
The only I was just wondering if you had.

824
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:19.159
I have, But it's rare and it's usually you know,

825
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:24.199
just usually they'll say something profound, like one time in Appalachicola,

826
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:26.960
there was a lady that came up to me and

827
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.679
she said, you know, you're very unique. And I thought,

828
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.880
oh no, it's gonna be a lady complain about me

829
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.639
doing paranormal research. So I thought I was waiting for

830
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.440
her to lay an inch to me about it. And

831
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.519
I said, in what way? And she said, well, how

832
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:48.519
many people do paranormal research by themselves like you? And

833
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:51.159
she was starting to say that she thought I was

834
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.360
a and then a lady came up and said, a

835
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.840
luk to me, it's like a bad time to be

836
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.800
popular on the street. And then when I look back,

837
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:07.000
she had walked away. So at that point in time,

838
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.159
I don't know what I was doing. I think I was.

839
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.960
I think I was staying at the Hayes house. It

840
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.079
was one weekend that I was visiting Florida when I

841
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.840
was living in Houston, Texas, and I think I was

842
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.440
on my way to go someplace and eat. So I

843
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.639
didn't think about it anymore, but I would love to

844
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.760
have heard what she thought I was. She if I

845
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.119
already told me that I was something more than just

846
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.360
a regular human being, and at least that's what I

847
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:37.480
was thinking, And I don't know. I saw her walking away,

848
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:42.840
so she probably was a real person. Now the other

849
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.960
times that I could think of. When I was in

850
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:51.599
the hospital with kidney failure, two doctors came and told

851
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.960
me that I was going to die, which I didn't

852
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:59.480
because I'm still here and I are you. That pissed

853
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.599
me off because as a medic, I wouldn't never tell

854
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:06.480
anyone they were going to die. Yeah, if a lot

855
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:09.320
of people, a doctor's word is sacred with a lot

856
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.639
of people, a lot of patients that the doctor says

857
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.800
you're going to die, you know, you just take their

858
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.320
room for it. Where I've been in the army and

859
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.239
all of a sudden, I don't take I don't think

860
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:24.519
anyone's room for anything, you know, even a doctor's word.

861
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:31.039
So anyway, I was in the ICU when they told

862
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:35.320
me that I was going into renal failure and they

863
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:40.960
had moved me to a long term care facility as

864
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.400
for thirty days. I didn't know that at the time,

865
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.599
but I found it out later on, and the long

866
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.880
term care facility was usually a step away from hospice,

867
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.639
which I didn't know either until later. So in this

868
00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.320
long term care facility, on my second day there, they

869
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:07.639
put me on a chemotherapy medicine because they were worried

870
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.519
that my kidneys were so bad what was left of them.

871
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:16.719
My body would attack my kidney's thinking that they were

872
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:20.440
a foreign object. So they put me on chemotherapy, and

873
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.639
they didn't want me to have any visitors, which they

874
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:28.639
didn't have many. Anyway, So the nurse that I had

875
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:33.280
that day was very high strung and very angry. So

876
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.639
she came into my room and start barking out orders.

877
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.079
And at that time my mouth was very dry, and

878
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.440
she wanted me to put the pills in my mouth

879
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:46.920
and then drink the water and they would stick to

880
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.360
my tongue and cause me to choke. So anyway, that

881
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.639
was a ladya that probably shouldn't have hit nursing at all.

882
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:02.039
So anyway, she was walking out as this woman was

883
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.320
walking in, so I said, well, she must have saw her.

884
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.760
And as this woman walked in, she said, at the

885
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:12.800
chair at the end of my bed, and she told

886
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:14.880
me that I was going to get better, I was

887
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.480
gonna fully recover. And I said, you know, I think

888
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:23.239
the same thing, and I smiled, and then she came

889
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:28.360
over and shook my hand, and when she shook my hand,

890
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.519
she took off hands and kind of held my hand

891
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:35.480
and she said she had to go, and she walked out.

892
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.199
She gave me a business card, and I said, well,

893
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.800
how can I get in touch with you? And then

894
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.280
she gave me a business card and then she was

895
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.480
walking out as a nurse was walking in. So they

896
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.119
you know, it's a very narrow space between the foot

897
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.760
of the bed and the wall, and they kind of

898
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.920
passed each other. So I said, there is anything, so

899
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:59.159
then she had to see her. So anyway, I want

900
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.719
to sleep after that, and when I woke up, I

901
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.800
couldn't find a business card, and I thought that nurse

902
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:09.039
had taken the business card. So I, as a nurse,

903
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.400
I said, where did business card go that the lady

904
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:15.920
gave me? That was in here? And she said, you

905
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.400
had no visitors today, mister Evans, really mean like And

906
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.599
I said, well, the lady passed you as she came in,

907
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:26.119
she passed you as she went out, and she said,

908
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.760
I didn't see any lady. So that was another time.

909
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:35.280
But believe me, when this when if the average person

910
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.599
sees the grocer spirit, they won't know it, you know,

911
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.239
because the lady that came to my bedside and told

912
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:45.719
me I was gonna make a full recovery, which I have.

913
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:50.159
I'm here right now, and it's what twenty twenty five,

914
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:56.559
And this all happened early January of twenty seventeen. So

915
01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:01.199
the lady was right, and I never seen her again.

916
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.960
And I asked the nurse. I said, though, well, who

917
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:09.679
was that lady that came And they said that I

918
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:15.360
had no visitors that day and the only other time

919
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:18.760
that was during the hospital's day.

920
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:20.480
Was a.

921
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:28.239
Lady who was dressed like a nurse and a movie.

922
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:33.639
Really late at night, they didn't move me. I think

923
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.639
there was an auto accident or something and they had

924
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.679
at least three people coming in, so they moved me

925
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:45.800
ten thirty at night, and that was like a narrow

926
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:51.039
hallway to get to this hospital within the hospital, and

927
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.679
the nurse from the ICU was moving me, and she

928
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.800
was met by another nurse and said, I know you're

929
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.760
visiting the ICU. I'll take him from here, and she did,

930
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.559
and that nurse brought me into my room. I still

931
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:08.000
remember the room numbers, room three three three, and she

932
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:10.639
allowed me to scoot over into the bed while she

933
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.679
had held the stretcher so I wouldn't slide.

934
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:15.159
And then.

935
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.440
You know, it was almost eleven o'clock and it was

936
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:21.760
time for vinyl signs and I answer her she'd take

937
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:25.159
my vinyl signs and she did. And a strange thing

938
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.440
about it. I hadn't published my book yet because the

939
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.000
book didn't get published until twenty eighteen, I guess, late August,

940
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:37.079
and I started telling her about my book because I figured,

941
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.480
you know, nurses are going to be open to the paranormal.

942
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:41.880
I'm trying to get someone and rested in my book

943
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:43.840
and I told her, you know, I'm writing a book

944
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:48.320
about They's house goes for people too, And she says, yeah,

945
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:52.480
I know all about your book, Gooster Evans. I thought, wow,

946
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.039
she know all about my book. So anyway, that was

947
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.239
kind of strange. But she took my vinyl signs and

948
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:01.960
as she was going out the door, I said, well,

949
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:06.599
don't forget my chart. So the chart was at the

950
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.000
foot of my bed, and I handed her to chart,

951
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:12.519
and the best of my knowledge, she took it. So

952
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:17.360
about twelve midnight, a nurse came in my room and

953
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.400
wanted to know who I was and why I was

954
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:24.760
in this bed woke me up and I thought, my god,

955
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.599
am I why I z own or what? And I said, well,

956
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:32.159
the nurse brought me in here and put me in here.

957
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.199
You know, I just I hadn't been there. What probably

958
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.519
listened an hour and a half and I said, she

959
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:41.920
said what did this urse look like? And I described her.

960
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.519
I said she was gray hair, probably in her early sixties.

961
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.920
There's no enough shirt. It looks like that. I thought, wow,

962
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.320
I said, this is this is kind of strange. Yeah,

963
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.000
So anyway, and I said, well, she cut my bibles.

964
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.159
Go check she she's got my bibles. So I told

965
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:01.599
her who I was. She checked and she said, okay,

966
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.800
you're mister Evan just musn't be in here. I thought,

967
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.760
oh my god. You know it says I'm just badly ill,

968
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.440
and this is the way the nurses are responding to me.

969
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.440
So anyway, I got to stay in there. And she

970
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.840
almost thought it was some type of homeless prussure trying

971
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.280
to steal a bit for the night.

972
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:22.880
Right.

973
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:28.800
So anyway, it was one of those things where I

974
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.159
don't know who this nurse was, but nobody else knew her.

975
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.840
And they finally I was there for thirty days, so

976
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:39.480
they finally allowed me to walk with a walker. I

977
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:45.960
had other complications too, like I had drag kang green

978
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.840
in two of my toes, and my circulations to my

979
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:53.400
feet are really bad. So I would get up and

980
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.039
walk in place like you're marching in place inside the

981
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.360
bed so I could get the circulation going in my feet,

982
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.119
because I didn't want to lose my feet. And you know,

983
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:06.960
the doctors were more worried about saving my life and

984
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.239
you know, the feet they saved the play second fiddle,

985
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:16.400
but I wanted to keep both. So one day they

986
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:22.199
gave me a walker, And at first they weren't allowing

987
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:25.400
me to walk on my own, and I got so

988
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.480
sick and tired of having to walk with a nurse.

989
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.599
They had this belt that they would tie around you,

990
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.760
kind of like almost like a repelling belt, and they

991
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:40.119
keep pulling up on it while so I wouldn't fall,

992
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.000
and that was uncomfortable. So I think one day I

993
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.920
walked on my own. But after that they allowed me

994
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.360
to just go with the walker and walk around and

995
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.599
come back. But one time, when I was walking with

996
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:56.000
the walker, I saw that nurse again, the nurse that

997
01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:02.039
had walked me there that night and she was pushing

998
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.880
the only woman in a wheelchair, which I didn't know,

999
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.360
and I said on the load to both of them,

1000
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.639
and she just said, the lady in a wheelchair doesn't talk.

1001
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.519
And I told her that I was out walking with

1002
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:16.880
my walker, and she said, I see you're doing well,

1003
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.639
and then she said she had the guys. So she

1004
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:24.599
turned around and went the other way. And you know,

1005
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:29.000
there was like three nurses stations that within this long

1006
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:32.440
term care hospital, within the hospital that I was in,

1007
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:38.159
But it was something that no person at my nursing

1008
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:43.239
station knew this woman, and they said that no woman

1009
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.000
worked there that was that age. Most of the nurses

1010
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:50.639
that were there were rather where we're young, I would say,

1011
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:55.559
twenties and thirties. Yeah, so that's a possibility that she

1012
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:59.840
was a ghost of spirit that only I could see. Yeah,

1013
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.920
I don't know who the only woman in the wheelchair was.

1014
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:10.800
Now doggle ganger. Yeah, familiar with the term doggleganger, am? Yes,

1015
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.079
that's when a ghost or spirit appears to you looking

1016
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.000
like a person that you know and trust, so they

1017
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.039
can kind of give you like a message, message that

1018
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:24.199
they want you to follow and take. Well, when I

1019
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.840
was in the ICU at the same time in the hospital,

1020
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:33.360
which was like January first of twenty seventeen, I guess

1021
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:38.320
my second or third day there. I also had internal

1022
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:44.400
bleeding above my esophacus because I had taken copious amounts

1023
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:48.800
of ib profen to help with the paint in both

1024
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.599
knees and my lower back from in line of duty

1025
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:58.840
injuries with the army, and the copious amounts of ibuprofen

1026
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.119
kind of you we owed the blood vessels right about

1027
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:07.760
your esophkis because that's where the ibuprofen seems to linger,

1028
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.079
if it lingers at all. Sometimes it doesn't. So that

1029
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.519
was the area that was bleeding, and uh, they were

1030
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.800
gonna they were scheduling me to go back in for

1031
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.359
surgery to try to stop the bleeding in that area.

1032
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:27.640
And that morning, uh, one of my doctors at that

1033
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.720
time I was I was kind of confused. I didn't

1034
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:34.000
know which doctor was witch. But it turned out my

1035
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:39.159
Kenny Dowker had called and she start outside in the hallway,

1036
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:44.760
which the ICU is a very very usually narrow U

1037
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:52.159
shaped tight building or triangular shape, not triangular shape, but

1038
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.520
larger than the square. I'm trying to think of the

1039
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:03.920
term cor right and with the rooms on at least

1040
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:09.239
three sides in a nursing station that takes out one side,

1041
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:15.039
it's about the life of two hallways. So my room

1042
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:18.239
was very close to the hallway by the Kendy doctor

1043
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.600
always came inside the room and talked to me, but

1044
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:23.399
this time she's stood on the outside and she smiled,

1045
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.079
and I said, well, will he's smalling about? I figured

1046
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.079
she had good news and she said, You're bleeding has stopped.

1047
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.279
I said, oh, that's good. So I wanted to go

1048
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:37.159
to surgery, and then she walked away. So when the

1049
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.199
nurse came and said, miss Raymonds's time you go to surgery,

1050
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.119
and I said, we'm not coil because the doctor said

1051
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:49.279
the bleeding had stopped. So they wanted to know what doctor.

1052
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.399
Of course I didn't know the doctor's name because I

1053
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:56.039
was still somewhat confused. So the nurse said, mister Remonds,

1054
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.680
your room weren't ending me. You're gonna die if this

1055
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.840
bleeding doesn't stop. You should go down the surgery and

1056
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:04.000
I said, no, I'm not going because the doctor said

1057
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.520
it had stopped. So the surgery I think was scheduled

1058
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:13.199
for like three pm at about five pm before breakfast

1059
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:16.479
was served. The nurse came in and she said, well,

1060
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:20.840
mister Evans, I drawed your blood and your red blood

1061
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:24.720
cell count is going up. So the bleeding had stopped.

1062
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.560
And she just stayed quiet because she had spilled to

1063
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:33.199
me so bad. Right, So anyway, I never had to

1064
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:37.600
have any more surgery to stop that bleeding. Wow, I

1065
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:41.920
don't know, and I did that, Kenny doctor. I kept

1066
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.960
her for a couple of years until she moved away,

1067
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:47.960
and I asked her one day, I said, remember that

1068
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.119
time you came to my I see you room has

1069
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:52.560
stood out in the hall and told me that the

1070
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:55.119
bleeding has stopped. I asked her, how did you know that?

1071
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:59.359
And she said, mister Evans, that wasn't me. I had

1072
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.279
no way owen, So I think that was double Gamer

1073
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:07.279
who wanted me to know that. Had I went down

1074
01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:11.159
to had they went in in that sensitive area messed

1075
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:14.039
with it anymore, they might cause it to be worse.

1076
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:15.439
Yeah. Possibly.

1077
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:17.479
Wow.

1078
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:23.840
Well, Keith, I, yeah, we've got to wrap it up.

1079
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.479
But your stories are amazing. I want you to tell

1080
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.840
the audience where they can find you.

1081
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:34.079
Well.

1082
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:38.399
I have a YouTube channel called Paranormal Short Sessions by

1083
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.399
Keith Evans, and it's free to subscribe, And I'm also

1084
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:51.199
on Facebook and Instagram and my two books, Vampire's Dead

1085
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:58.199
All Alive. It's available on Amazon, paperback, ebook on Kindle,

1086
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:03.359
and The Hayes House Ghoster Too is available only on Kindle. Okay,

1087
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.279
so I hope everyone will check out the books. I

1088
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.560
would say my favorite book is The Vampires That Are Alive,

1089
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.520
just because it's it's brand new information.

1090
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:15.239
It's not just.

1091
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:20.760
You know, when someone nice about their paranormal research and

1092
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:24.680
getting similar things we call by a different ghost in

1093
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:29.079
different spirits and a different paranormal investigator. But if you

1094
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:33.000
want something brand new or something just totally you know,

1095
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:36.319
blows your mind. Most people haven't thought about some of

1096
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:38.359
the things that I thought about when it comes to

1097
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:42.920
how a vampire, how vampires do what they do. So

1098
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.000
if you're into science and you want to learn something

1099
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:49.560
new and to read The Vampires that Are Alive by

1100
01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:51.840
Keith Evans, yeah for sure.

1101
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:53.359
You know.

1102
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:57.840
Well, we appreciate you coming on and uh we'll.

1103
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.880
Do it again soon, Okay, appreciate you having me, yeah kid,

1104
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:05.479
all right, thanks, all right.

1105
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:09.319
Yeah, I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared.

1106
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:11.640
Hold me hostage and they don't fight fair.

1107
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:12.840
Who're gonna pray for me?

1108
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:14.159
And white bro my tests?

1109
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.479
Who's gonna save me? If you're not right here?

1110
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:18.960
Move this darkness and make my sight clear.

1111
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.279
Take me your way, because I don't like you.

1112
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.359
Don't stop my past day feeling the night here, wake

1113
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.920
me up. I'm trapped in my Nightmases.

1114
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:47.000
Trapped in my Nightmas, trowling.

1115
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:50.880
Trowling, I move the deepen apparition, some of all my deepness,

1116
01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.399
all my thoughts, I come, making trees.

1117
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:54.199
It all alone.

1118
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:54.960
Who gonna hear me?

1119
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:59.800
Screaming matterf stay, shits on my fists, regrets that stretched

1120
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:02.119
out for light years. You can almost touch the light

1121
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:05.560
on mees right there, body free, but tracing my nightmare.

1122
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.680
I don't let me ja our life of fame.

1123
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:14.239
All my life is faith, All my life.

1124
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:15.760
Is faced, and that I was wake.

1125
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.600
I don't let me jo. My life is fading. All

1126
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:22.399
my life is fame enough.

1127
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:35.359
We need trating my Nightmas.

1128
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:19.279
School a

1129
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:22.479
Ca