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M m all right, you're live with Mystic Mark. Mark.
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Tell us who you are and what you do.
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Thanks for having me, Bennett, and I am the host
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of My Family Thinks Some Crazy podcast. I am fascinated
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particularly with history forgot lost historys especially and the local
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history of where I'm from, which is New England up
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here in the northeast of the United States. And I
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didn't necessarily set out to research all that. It just
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one thing led to another, and then over time I
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had accumulated enough strange things to say, you know, maybe
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I should put some serious thought into this. And so
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now about four five years since starting this podcast, I've
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been able to look into some of the things that
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at one point in time were just curiosities and nothing more.
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But now I've sort of put together a few ideas
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on based on research that I've done about New Haven,
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in particular, why because it's Connecticut's first real city. It's
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America's first planned city. Although the Hartford area is older
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technically and was settled first, new Haven is really unique
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compared to Hartford, and that's mostly because of Yale University,
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which precedes the country. It was founded in seventeen oh
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one and played a role in the Revolutionary War. I
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have a feeling that it may have played an adversarial
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role to a certain extent, maybe providing at the very
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least support for the British after the war. You see
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Yale's involvement in World War one and two as a
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particular evidence of that. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
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New Haven is what we're going to be talking about today.
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But I also research Native American history and to better
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understand America and the history of this place. And there's
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a couple of stone structures that I've come across and
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been researching as well that don't exactly connect to the
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new Haven research, but there is a few things that
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they haven't that those areas of research have in common.
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So yeah, happy to be here.
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I mean, it's such a small state that kind of
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everything sits on top of each other anyway. I mean,
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it's all kind of integrated and probably related at some
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somehow at some point.
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Right, So well's I feel grateful in that sense because
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I don't know that I could love a state as
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as much as I do love Connecticut, and maybe it
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would be a lot more of a challenge if I
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lived in a bigger state, because yeah, you're right. I
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mean everything is so condensed that I feel like I
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know the entire state pretty well. If you threw a
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dart at a map of Connecticut, there's a good chance
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it'll land on somewhere I've been. So yeah, right, Yeah,
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it's a small state. Yeah, big heart, as we like
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to say.
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For sure. Yeah. I my whole family basically our grads
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of Yukon. So my great grandfather was the athletic director
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there for like thirty years. There's a there's a gymnasium
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there named after him and everything. So so I have
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deep roots in Connecticut. Plus I love the state too.
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It's just so expensive to try and you know, do anything.
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I love taking my family down. I love the mystic
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area all that stuff, you know. So absolutely so. At
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the end of the day, though, what what is what's
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your gateway to this whole world of like crazy high
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strangeness and all this, Like, what what was your gateway
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drug to that world? You know what I mean?
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Yeah, Well it was the time I spent in New
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Haven while I was at community college. I was more
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interested in wandering around the city than I was paying
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attention in class. In between classes, I would just go
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and wander around, and yeah, I just really started to
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take it all in, and you know, one thing after
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another sort of piled up. And then eventually I met
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a gentleman named Amos who became friends with and he
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taught me about Geronimo and how his skull was not
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only you know, robbed from its resting place from his
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grave in Oklahoma, but brought as a trophy to New
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Haven and kept in the Skull and Bones Tomb. So
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when I found that out, I was pretty upset. You know,
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I think naturally most people are kind of disturbed.
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Yeah, that is disturbing.
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Yeah, and rightly so. But yeah, that was one of
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many little things that led to me getting into this
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in a serious way. But back then I was more
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interested in, yeah, just kind of stripping away the indoctrination
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of whatever was, you know, dispensed to me in public school,
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trying to figure everything out for myself. So I was
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attracted to books like The Secret History of the World
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by Mark Booth or The Secret Teachings of All Ages
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by Manly P. Hall. Yaqui Way. The Teachings of Don
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Juan by Carlos Castaneda was another big one for me,
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and then those books were referential enough to allow to
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be like a guide for other books, and then from
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there I just kept reading at a you know, at
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an average pace. I'm not, you know, some kind of
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avid savant reader, but you pointed out how many books
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I have. I'm probably a savant spendthrift when it comes
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to the books. So yeah, right, I have a lot
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of them. And that's the fun thing about nonfiction is
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you're not necessarily on the hook to finish reading them,
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right because the novel, you know, you sort of got
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to read the whole thing through. With nonfiction, I like
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taking in what information is relative to what I'm researching
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at that moment in time. So I do like reference
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books for that reason. And I've been drawn to all
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sorts of strange books that have kind of helped me
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piece apart what's really going on in New Haven. And
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I think the most interesting part to me has become
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the part that's just hiding in plain sight, right, because
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we've all heard about the Skull and Bones cult and
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the Secret Society and these things they do, and some
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of those rumors may never be substantiated. Some of it
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may be true, some of it may be false unless
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I join. I don't know, but what I can prove
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is that there is a energetic imprint that is imbued
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on a person who walks through new Haven. And I
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know that because I enjoy it. I basked in it
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for a long time, you know, I just walk around
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new Haven and see what stood out, see what found me.
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And now I think there's this sort of map that
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I've figured out and some connections that I've drawn symbolically,
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and actually, as you pointed out, the lay lines were
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what drew you to my research. So why don't if
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I can, I don't know if I'm able to share
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my screen with the UH be able to, so I
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can show you the map that I learned about from
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a gentleman named Peter Shampoo, who I'm a big fan of.
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UH.
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His book is called the Gaya Matrix, and it is
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essentially a one of a kind kind of mapping of
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lay lines around the world, and then an in depth
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explanation as to not only how he mapped these out,
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but each lay lines characteristics, qualities, and why they're unique.
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So what we're looking at is three photos. The one
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on the left hand side is the one from Peter's
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book and then the one that we see in the
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center is from Peter's website. Now, the one on the
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right hand side is a book I found or a
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photo I found that maps out. Then, Yeah, the seven
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different IVY League schools or eight, nine, seven, I don't
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know how many altogether. I think it's eight IVY League schools. Yeah,
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six out of the eight are all on this lay line. Now,
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this lay line goes through major cities Boston, New York City, Philadelphia, Atlanta,
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New Orleans, and even Mexico City when you draw it
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for far enough south, but particularly for our purposes, it
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goes through New Haven and Yale. And I think that
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is not only significant, but maybe evidence that these colleges
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were planned out in some sort of way. You know,
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maybe not in a way like executively where one person said, Okay,
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we're going to build all these colleges, but maybe they realize, like, Okay,
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this is a powerful line of energy that we can
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utilize for this purpose. So if we're going to have
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a school worth its salt, it has to be on
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a lay line.
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Maybe this became a you know, something that they had
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to do because it set their schools apart. And I
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mean really they are kind of living. So yeah, that
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is that is the lay line.
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That's an intriguing map right there. The I mean, they're
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all intriguing, but the one with the six schools just
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in this nice little like I ninety five corridor kind
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of you know what I mean.
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Yeah, Well, it's funny because that was the before it
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was an interstate highway. That was the Boston Post Road,
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which is yeah, one of the one the oldest roads.
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Yeah one, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely signific again, and
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it's a little bit of you know, both ways, because
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not only do the do the lay lines affect culture,
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but the culture affects the lay line, right, so yeah,
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absolutely give and take. But yeah, this lay line goes
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through Yale, and Yale's whole campus is set on a
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nine square grid, which is also significant. It's like a
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sort of cobbalistic magical square that is designed to symbolize Saturn.
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And I didn't necessarily put that together right away. It
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took me a couple of years to kind of figure
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that out. But I had always noticed that the green
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and you'll probably remember the green has a strange pattern
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on the path marks.
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Like yeah, well they said nine. And then isn't there
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church right in the middle From what I remember.
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Yeah, there's three churches in the center, all facing the
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east on Temple Street there. So yeah, we have these
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lines going through the square in this pattern that kind
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of looks like what you might see in a nicult
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hambook singles or something like that. So that's always stood
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out to me, and that's kind of what I was
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trying to make sense of when I realized, oh, this
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nine square grid is not just a simple shape that
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I mean. Obviously, now if you go to a big
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city like Denver or Dallas or Los Angeles, like one
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of these cities that was built on the West coast
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or in the Midwest where they had a much much
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more flat ground to work with, they're all gritted out.
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weren't building towns with you know, modern transportation in mind.
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sort of an anomalous feature because at the time when
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this nine square grid was plotted out, you didn't have
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towns really situated like that, all right. So that's kind
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of what makes me think maybe there's something more to
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this and it's retained that form over the years as
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has expanded into a bigger city.
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It's crazy. I've spent so much time down there, and
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I'm just looking and it's like you forget until you
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see it all again. And I mean, I remember, isn't
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there crypt in the bottom of one of those churches?
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Yeah? Yeah, So this is part of the the strange
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side of it is that you know these the new
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hay Been Green is pretty much a cemetery.
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Yeah, that's what I remember from Kian Wow, which is
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so it's like one hundred and thirty people buried there
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something like that, six hundred I think six hundred yeah. Wow.
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They moved a lot of people to the Grove Street
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cemetery in the eighteen hundreds, right, because that was sort
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of like a a cemetery for the well off, right,
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So anybody who memorable or had connections to those families
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was exhumed and then brought to the new cemetery, and
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then the old cemetery was really just kind of forgotten about.
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The only real, yeah, way to know that that is
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a grave site is by going into the church and
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seeing that they have the tomb there. I don't know
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if they mentioned. I mean, I'm sure they're not hiding it,
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but yeah, there are gravestones behind the center church and
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in fact, under the ground behind all the churches. It's
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just one big grave site.
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Right So okay, man, all right, So Scull and Bones
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technically originated, well that's where it's at in essence right now.
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Right, So Scull and Bones started in eighteen thirty two,
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and it was very much a part of Yale's culture
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to be in a sort of a club like this.
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It wasn't like a completely new thing when it was formed.
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They had these groups called debating societies, So the Debating
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Society is sort of born out of those were born
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these more specialized private groups that were designed to be
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networking and to just sort of study. Grew groups and
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ways for men to link up with each other and
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create long lasting relationships into you know, the rest of
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their lives and think about it. At the time, you know,
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Yale is one of a few colleges on what is
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then a wild frontier, you know, like the East coast
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was fairly settled, but beyond the Appalachian Mountains up until