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Year, Joe straight from the broadcast studio and then the
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static this ain't no pret sound story. So as prophetic
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encrypt the signals from the saddles of the party, we
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did where the trop got secret snow parted, microphone.
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Alchemists scriptures with a twist, keep the frequency seeds in
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the midst We dropped fas like plagues revelations in the catus,
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broadcasting truth while they trapped in surveilans wisdom with a
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watchman's blade, forth what sound while your whole system faid
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blood moons that for love echoes in the pond sasquart
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soften through the fault lines of time. We ain't mainstream,
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we ain't just stream safer with the prophets to code
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the dreams, so with you throw them in better guards
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of mind as broadcasting seeds.
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And were breaking the design of design.
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Yeah, yeh, Joe, Joe, straight from the broadcast studio.
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All right, Travis Carpenter, welcome to broadcasting seeds. Man, tell
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us who you are and what you do and where
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we can find you.
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Yeah, man, yep, I am I am Travis Carpenter. I'm
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the son of Scott Carpenter. A lot of people have
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heard of Dad. Dad was a big pretty famous at
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least I'm pretty biased when I say famous. Dad had
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a Dad had a sixty five seventy thousand subscriber YouTube channel,
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has been on Finding Bigfoot, has been on Survivor Man Bigfoot,
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wrote in several books, and was a DNA sample contributor
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to the Sasquatch DNA study or more commonly know like
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the Melbourketchum DNA study passed passed away in twenty twenty three.
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And me, Travis, I'm just I'm just carrying the torch.
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I have a small YouTube channel myself. It's just a
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tea carp channel. I loved doing hunting, fishing, I do
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political stuff, I do prepping stuff, so guns nives, all
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that stuff. That's really what I've enjoyed doing. And then
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I also take that and then run with my style
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and try to continue Dad's work and do some commentaries
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on dad stuff and republish things and do lives and
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read his books on the Scott Carpenter YouTube channel and
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the Sasquatch Awareness Project. You can google those two things
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and you'll find us.
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Yeah awesome. So so what got you? I mean besides
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your dad being who your dad is what right? What
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was like your entry point to this crazy world of
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high strangeness.
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Yeah. So, so the weird part was is, you know,
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everybody knows Dad's story the whole two thousand and eight.
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He's on a fishing thing on the the Whoop and
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all that, so everybody knows that. What they don't really
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know is, you know, Dad coming home and telling us
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about it, and it's like, you know, you know, it's like, oh,
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I'm out there, I really kind of want to look
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for Bigfoot. And then everybody, you know, you know, I
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you know, I love my dad, and I'm like, I
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know he's not crazy.
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How didn't we know you?
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Yeah? I was Kylie. I was eighteen nineteen years old.
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I believe I just graduated high school. So I was
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like eighteen nineteen years.
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Old, Like Dad, come on.
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Yeah.
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It was like, well, like what are you doing? But
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I like, I want to hang out with you, So
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I'll go out here and look for this thing with you.
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And then we go we go up to the Great
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Smoking Mountains National Park and we go up this trail,
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Turkey Pin Trail, and Dad's taking people there. So I'm
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not telling anybody anything that anybody didn't know. And we
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go off and we go off trail a little bit
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to where you know, the surrounded by Sasquatch video is.
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We'd go there and I go and I see footprints
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and I find footprints myself and these aren't bootprints, these
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are footprints. And I and I see all this stuff
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and I'm like, uh, maybe this thing is uh it
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is a little like Israel. And then you start seeing
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like Dad will show you like the pictures and this
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and that, and then it just it just kind of
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blew up from there. And then it would be like okay,
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bouncing ideas off of each other. It would be like, Okay, Dad,
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what do you think about this? Let's try this. Hey,
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I'm doing this. Hey what do you think like finding bigfoot? There?
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They're hounding me. They're hounded me. Should I be on
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this show? And I'm like I don't. I said Dad,
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like I think you need to do it. You think
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you need to just try it. And it's like I'm
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afraid they're gonna make me look like an idiot. And
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it's just all this stuff, all those little back you know,
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backroom conversations with Dad, Like that's that's what I was,
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you know, all this privy to and then you know,
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you get the dog man footage and it's like, oh,
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I was like, Dad, this is insane. You like you
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have to show people. He's like, I know, but we
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have this DNA study. We can't do we can't we
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have to focus on this. It was all this fun stuff.
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But for me, it was just being able to hang
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out with that and just being able to be with him.
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So for me, this was me and my relationship with that,
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you know, because we like football, we like hunting, all
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this stuff. This just added another pillar to that. Now,
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my wife, you asked a specific question, you just talked
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about it being, you know, the strangeness. My wife knew
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immediately that this was stuff that was a little bit
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more than just physical. She said she would be like Travis,
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I don't know, I don't know if you should be
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out there messing with him. And we'll get deeper into
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that later on in the interview.
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Yeah, man, I.
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Know, I juster there.
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No, it's good. So from your perspective, what's what's the
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biggest obstacle to getting and I'll just say it, the
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Sasquatch DNA results taken seriously, Like the science itself or
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the like the politics of publishing, like.
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What the Yeah, the biggest part with that, in my opinion,
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reading over Dad's notes, reading the book and all that
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is really is gonna be the It's gonna be that
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it doesn't fit the narrative. It just doesn't fit not
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only the boppedal eight narrative, it doesn't fit the evolutionary
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process narrative. So you have a few, you know, schools
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of thought here. So the problem with the Bigfoot community
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as a whole is that Bigfoot. We make money off bickfoot.
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Everybody here makes money off bickfoot. I make money off bickfoot,
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you make I mean, everybody does. And if Bigfoot is
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a bipedal ape we're all good. It makes us money.
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It's not scary. It can be a little scary, but
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it's not super scary. And it's just this unknown thing
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that everybody's been talking about, you know, no big deal.
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But if it's a human hybrid, which is what Dad's
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what this DNA showed, then it begs a lot of
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questions of Okay, if it's human, then is it a tribe?
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Is it? Is it this or that? And then if
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it's a hybrid, what is it a hybrid of and
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then that opens the door to so many other things.
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So you have that when it comes to the bigfoot community,
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when you have the scientific community. The problem that happens
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there is it doesn't fit the evolutionary narrative. So in
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evolution you have going bigger to smaller. They have it's
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boom boom boom boom boom. Homo sapien is the top.
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We're there, but now we have this thing that's mixed
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with Homo sapien. The mitochondrial DNA's Homo sapien or human.
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The nuclear DNA, which is the father's DNA, is completely unknown,
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should not exist, cannot exist. But yet you have hair, flesh, spit,
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samples of it. That's the big that's the big problems.
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And that is where science two plus two is not
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equaling four for them. It's right there in front of them,
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but they cannot accept it. It's it's called cognitive dissonance.
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They their brain can't accept two things, so they choose
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to ignore one of them. Does that make sense? The
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their theory is so their theory is their religion, and
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it just they just can't they they can't, they can't
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figure that out. They can't accept it. So until another
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theory replaces evolution that they personally can accept bigfoot being
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a human hybrid of some sort, they cannot, cannot, cannot
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accept it. So what will they do. They will ignore
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the study, they will say contaminated DNA, junk science, and
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then they will personally attack Melba Dad David Pilate's as
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being non scientific, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So
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those are the three main reasons that I believe that,
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you know, science as a whole, or the bigfoot community
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as a whole is is just not going to accept
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this study for a while, no matter what, even though
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it's signed, even though it's been published, all that stuff,
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they're just not going to accept it.
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I've read, I've read it all, and uh, I'm I'm pretty
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convinced it's all legit. I mean, yeah, we don't even
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need to go into it because it's just one of
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those things like folks, and I'll put I'm actually because
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I did find the actual study online.
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It's a deep study. It's not just one two.
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Name that's like crazy, it's ridiculous. But either way, what
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what is your working theory? Yeah, I'm like, right, now
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on what these things are.
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I definitely believe they are a nephylum descendant of some
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sort okay type, yes, yes, And I'm not privy. I
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I'm not privy to like all the nephil uh, the
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the step downs, and I'm not I'm not there yet.
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I've got to study on that. But but whatever, it's
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a nephylum hybrid of some sort. So whatever whatever nephilams are,
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it's that it's that we know that that that human
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as has to be the base, and that's right, and
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then and then the the you know, and then you
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have the father's DNA be in some mixture. Now my
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working theory is there a They're almost an avatar in
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my opinion, of some sort. So I believe that movies
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and cinema and things like that tell us the truth.
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They tell us what's going on. I think the movie
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Avatar tells you that you have, you know, a spirit
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being put into something else. And I believe that that's
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that's what that's what's happened. You have Neffhlin spirits being
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put into into these creatures. You that's a working theory.
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You also have that this is a this is an
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experimentation and this is a large super soldier of some sort.
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that is bigger, stronger, faster than any man alive that
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doesn't you know, that can do, can have has some
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of these weird spiritual powers with these word supernatural powers
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that we've seen and and that can hide and can
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do anything you like. So you have that work in theory,
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that's that. That's that's that, and then you know you
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have the the Esau theory that that's you know, all that.
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the Nephelin, the biblical realm. I'm I'm working between the honestly,
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I'm working between the super soldier theory and the avatar theory.
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they are. And I know that sounds absolutely nuts to
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some folks, but that's you know, that's just kind of
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where I'm at with it.
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Yeah, I'm kind of more just and I'll put it
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out there. I am I am into at this point.
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I'm kind of more like a like a theory on
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type thing.
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So tell me about the stere on theory.
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So the they on are just the beasts of the
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field right from the Bible and from and Revelation and
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and all the different spots in the butt because because
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it would be one thing if we just had Bigfoot,
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but we have dog Man. Correct, they have all these
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other cryptid type entities as well, and and not not
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just land yeah, goat, I mean, because we had goats
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back from the Centaurs, we got satyrs, We've got menotaurs,
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We've got all these things from back in the day.
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And what's to say that those don't still exist on
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some plane or some place right.
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I absolutely believe that. I'm a big fan of I'm
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a big fan of this guy called camp Hoven, and
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he got me when I was a kid. Can't get
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me into like, hey, dinosaurs exist, Dinosaurs weren't really aren't.
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Dinosaurs are dragons. They they exist, They're still here. We
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just they just don't fit the evolutionary model, so we
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have to move them out and pretend like they don't
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exist anymore. Same thing with all the same thing, with
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all this stuff. They are a satyrs or dog men
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or whatnot. I truly believe that all these all these
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fairy tales are not you know, they're they're they're not
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they're not fairy, they're not actually fairy tales. They're they're
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they're they cut, they have kernels of truth and whatnot.
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Yeah, so I I believe I am to what end,
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I have no idea, But at the end of the day,
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it's a thing, you know. So in the bottom line
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is we don't know a damn thing about anything.
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That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So if if people
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learn anything from this interview, it's that what you're told