May 6, 2025

Five Stones & the Hidden War of the Nephilim | Adam Farris on Biblical Giants

Five Stones & the Hidden War of the Nephilim | Adam Farris on Biblical Giants
Five Stones & the Hidden War of the Nephilim | Adam Farris on Biblical Giants
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Five Stones & the Hidden War of the Nephilim | Adam Farris on Biblical Giants

In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we delve into the fascinating world of myth, scripture, and the supernatural with Adam Farris, the creative mind behind the graphic novel Five Stones. Inspired by a personal calling following the passing of his...

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In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, we delve into the fascinating world of myth, scripture, and the supernatural with Adam Farris, the creative mind behind the graphic novel Five Stones. Inspired by a personal calling following the passing of his father in September 2022, Adam offers a gritty reimagining of the classic David and Goliath narrative. This rendition brings to the forefront the often-overlooked Nephilim aspect, adding layers of depth and intensity to the legendary battle. Adam shares the journey of bringing this passion project to life, discussing the raw, supernatural, and deeply human elements that make Five Stones a unique exploration of one of history’s most iconic underdog stories. We explore the intersections of faith, mythology, and the unexplained, challenging listeners to consider the hidden truths within ancient tales. Links:



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M so tell us who you are and what you do,

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all right.

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I am Adam Ferriss. I am a writer and biblical researcher.

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Three years ago I went through some really really tough times,

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lost my father and ultimately was called initially to write

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five Stones. I wrote five Stones, and then as I

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was just reading the Bible, I started noticing a lot

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of odd things, if you will, you know, going with

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what the biblical narrative is. And I wanted to, you know,

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also talk about that stuff, but not take away from

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the writing, because initially, like like I said, it was

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just five stones, that was all my focus. So I

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started a blog of you know, really quick reads of like, man,

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this was weird, you know, this was wild. Over three years,

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this whole thing is developed to that where I'm really

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really getting into the grains of sand in the Bible

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along with my books. So if you put it in

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a nutshell, I feel like the journey I'm on is

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just to paint better realistic pictures and realistically just kind

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of like be some salt, get people interested to go

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back and look at it. I think we can all

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agree the Bible is absolutely misunderstood and miscommunicated and misconstrued,

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so it deserves a second look. That's kind of what

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I'm trying to focus on.

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Awesome, so writer, biblical researcher. So, how many books have

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you written? Like five Stones? Was that the first one?

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Yep?

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Absolutely, very first one, self published, self financed, put it

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out middle of last year, and just kind of making

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my rounds started on the second book, Grapefish, I believe

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second week of January. So was this this year with

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a focus to release it later this year? Fingers Crawl

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knock on everything right well, which is a really esoteric

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look at Jonah. What I try to do with my

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stories is make you feel like you're there. Yeah, so

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the jon the story of Jonah with him sinking and

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sinking and sinking and dropping and then you know, I

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wanted you to like like feel like you're in the

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water with them and feel that suffocation and claustrophobia and

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uh and then obviously get into the supernatural details of

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it too.

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Yeah. So how has five Stone's been doing?

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Great? Great? In my opinion?

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Everybody judges things differently, of course, and for me, you know,

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I had to obviously it wasn't about you know, normal success.

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You know, that was something that that I had to

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you know, really wrap my mind around. Was like, this

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was not that you know, whether people like it, they

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hate it, they buy it, they don't buy it. It's

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not really what I needed to focus on. I need

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to focus on getting it out and that was that

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and talk about it. So the feedback that I'm getting

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is that I get a lot of Wow. I didn't

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think about it like that.

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You know.

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Let me go back and look to me that successful.

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A really good friend of mine, twenty year friend that

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I had just kind of just got back with here

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recently sharing stuff with him, he reached out to me

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and was like, hey, I might go to church with

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you guys one day.

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You know what I mean.

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I tell my wife, and my wife was like, boom,

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you did it. You nailed it, you know, check it off.

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Your book was a success for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, man, that's you know, again to focus on what

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the point is. And I'm getting people interested. So I

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love it awesome.

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So talk to us about it about five stones, like

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give us the you know, first off, where can you

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find it? What what's the best place to find you?

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Yes, I've got a couple of them.

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Best places probably Well, I got my email e Adam

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Ferris at gmail dot com if you want to reach

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to me, I'm I'm a human. I'm a regular guy.

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You can highlight me anytime you want. I'm on Instagram.

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E Adam Ferris. E Adam Ferris dot Substack dot com

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is my writings. Five Stones dot Big Cartel dot com

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is the commerce.

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Page for the book.

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And uh, you know you can reach me any one

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of those. I'm an accessible guy, but and you can

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see some some livery behind me. Five Stones was a

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really gritty take on a bloody necessary story. There's a

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lot of misconceptions in in in that story, in the

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David story, So if you look at Five Stones, that's

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trying to clear things up right off the bat. I

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knew I had to attack the Amalekite scenario that always

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comes up. You hear that a lot of like why

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would God want people to to die? And you know,

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YadA YadA. So in Five Stones, when you see the Amalekites,

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you see why they're cannibals. They're not all human. There's

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a bunch of hybrids and they're eating humans. Guys got

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a human leg and they got somebody on the grill,

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so they they're known as the liquors of blood, which

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is really wild.

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Hell's that that's an understood.

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Is that literally what Amalekite means roughly trans something like that.

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Well, not to go so far down the genealogy rabbit hole,

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but you know they come from eat On, and eat

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I do believe doesn't mean red like everybody says it

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means red. If you look at the context of when

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eat On came, it was when Esau was begging for

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the red potage, you know, Lindel suit, he was in

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desperation begging for this. So I think Edam is a

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worship of blood, worship of red, and that's the Amalachite bloodline.

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And we'll get into all the bloodline and how that's

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super crucial in all these stories too. But yeah, that

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was just a manipulated changed humans into this raw thing.

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We don't know what a strict diet of human blood

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would do to a body. We know that you can't

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do that, so what would happen if it happened? Right,

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That's where my mind goes with these things, so along

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the fact that they are in the Nephelum line, because

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that's where this all started, was, you know Gen six,

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when the angels came down and changed humans.

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So focus on that.

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That's page two right when you get into it, I

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want you to feel why they had to go. This

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page behind me is my favorite page is when Saul

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kills Samuel kills King a good because Saul didn't follow

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God's direction to a t, because he's boastful and he's

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a king, and I'm better than everybody and I can

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make my own decisions. It was a call of action

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from God. It had to happen, and I wanted to

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emphasize why because of how bad they.

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Were and where they were doing to humans.

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And when I read this part of the story, all

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I saw was blue and red. I just kept seeing

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those colors. So that's why I painted painted that, And

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and that's the symbolism behind me of you know, God,

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I don't ask you much, but when I ask you

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to do something, I need.

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You to do it. You know, he's a father, we're fathers.

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We get it, yep.

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And then you get down into Goliath and and you

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know it's five stones. It's not one stone stones on

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purpose because of faith. He didn't grab one because he

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thought he would miss. The other giants were there. So

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in five Stone in my book Five Stones. Whenever you

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see glythe you see the other giants, and they're not

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you know, they're not forefront, they're you know, it's subtle,

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because that's kind of really how it is. But they're

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there every single time, and you see a different Goliath

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the first time than the second time. What that is

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if you go through scripture, we weren't really scared of

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giants anymore around that time. I believe that there's plenty

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of evidence they were using giants and that's what kind

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of built our landscape. So what I do symbolism is

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when the Philistines come in, they see this rugged, just

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giant and they bring him in because you know, that

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was the Bronze Age to the Iron Age and they're

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known as craftsmen. That they decorated him suits of armor

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and put him right up in front. That's why he

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was the champion of the Philistine army. It was on purpose,

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It wasn't you know. He was just the strongest, Like

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I feel like it was done intentional, and that too

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is why you know, you've heard the speculation he was

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the King of goth Yeah, but he doesn't recognize himself

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as the King of goth Now he would have because

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Saul is a king. You know, we know the problem

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with kings. He recognized himself as am I not a philistine,

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because I feel like he knew his place. He was

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in the army, he was a veteran ram right up

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in front. So I'm trying to do those subtle imagery

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to kind of paint a better picture of how life was.

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Then four different tribes of giants, Gershwites, Machiites, Anakim, and

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jeby Sites all were able to get away from the

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promised land crusade. Solomon ended up transcribing a bunch of

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those tribes to build his temples and his buildings. He

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had seven thousand stone carriers eighty thousand stone cutters. If

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you go by patterns of roles and responsibilities, when has

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there been a stone carrier? Right, there's workers, you know,

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and there's this, and there's that.

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You know.

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In in Nehemiah they specify who's going to build what parts.

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There's never like a stone carrier.

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And again, like I.

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Said, in eighty thousand stone cutters, you said.

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Cutters in the hill, Yeah.

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And cutters like that makes sense, but carriers.

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So speaking of the grains of saying that is again

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like talking with my blog. That's I'm so much enjoying

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that part of this journey is anything when I'm reading

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the Bible, anything that just doesn't seem normal. And that's,

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you know, because I come from distribution, that's my my

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career background, and the way I would I would train,

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you know, anybody that was going to be like management

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and looking into investigations and stuff. Look at everything as

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a normal transaction. You ordered your tired, you got picked ship,

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then you got it, look at it complete.

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No issues.

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So when you need to look for an issue, now

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you know where to look for the spikes. And that's

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kind of what I do with the Bible is when

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I'm reading something, I'll give you an example with the

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three sons of Zariah, David's nephews.

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Yep.

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The pattern is it's the fathers mentioned in Son of Right.

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It would be Adam's son of Bill, you know what

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I mean. Or it would say Adam died, Caleb remarried,

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and blah blah blah. It's very specific. The sons of

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Zaraiyah go right to Zariah and then mentions them joe

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ebb Abiyashi and AshEL. You find out that Zariah is

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David's sister, So there's no mention, not even of like

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he was here in blah. Now now we know that

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generally is because it comes from a bad bloodline or

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nephelim or whatnot. My backing point is Joe Ab one

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of the sons of Zarayah. He gets passed over as

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headguard by a massa because a maasa is the son

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of a man. What other kind of son is there?

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Right, So when you're putting these details together, I'm like,

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it's like, oh, I get it, because he wasn't the

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son of a man. That's why no man is listed.

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And that's why you remember the story of Absolom when

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he's stuck in the tree with his hair and Joe

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Ab gets so mad he grabs three spears in one

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hand and kills him. That's a big hand spears.

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So you know what I mean.

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So I'm putting these putting these details together, and it's

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like it's just it's just a different picture than what

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it was painted for me growing up. So yeah, that's

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kind of like the big, big focus. I try to

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put that symbolism in there to make.

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You it's it's got me like I mean, straight straight

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up confused, like, I mean, maybe this isn't an episode

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I should have gone in too cold. We were talking

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about that earlier. No, it's it's just like wow, like

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you don't really think about it, because yeah, you don't

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think about them talking about other than like cursory. Uh,

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you know things about giants, right, and that this is

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kind of in a sense giving giants more character within

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the Bible, right.

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Mm hmm.

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Are you familiar with obedidam.

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No? I mean I know that I've heard obviously, I've

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heard the name, but not I'm not like familiar familiar.

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Sure, Well, what you just said made me think of

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obed Edom because everybody has heard of obed Edom because

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he plays a very crucial role in the story of David.

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David was on his way to become king and he

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had the arc in a carriage and two guys were

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going with it. But they were not levitical priests. They

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didn't come from that bloodline. Cart stammers, dude reaches over

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and grabs it and he dies. David like really, really,

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you know, is upset a god? You know, why would

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you kill him?

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It's not our place.

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But he's not a levitical priest and there's you know,

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there's rules, right, but he leaves the arc with obed Edom.

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Now obed Edam is just like, oh, the guy that

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held the arc. He was a great guy. You know,

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we can trust him put the pieces together. He was

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a gets height. Goliath was a gets height. Now, David

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and Samuel the Seer chose twenty two specific people based

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on their genealogical history to be the show Aram. That

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was a title in the temple, the show Aram, the

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gatekeepers or the porters. So obtiedm is a get tight

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and he was chosen from his because of his bloodline

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to be a bodyguard, to be security. Yeah, yes, exactly,

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you get it. Yeah, So like that's a huge part

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that's overlooked. Now go a little bit later on in

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the story, when David is really heartbroken that his kids

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trying to kill him, He's climbing a hill and he

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literally says, you know, please God give me, give me direction.

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I'm quoting you know, get you know, help me out.

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When he gets at.

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The top of the hill, there's Hushai the archite up

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there with dirt on his head already like mourning. And

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who is David's friend if you backtrack the tribes in

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Canaan that were that needed to go. Ar kite was

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one of them, right oar kite means to be long

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in Hebrew.

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Yeah, man, dude, all right, so you know what this

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is doing to me actually now? And I'm looking it

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up and you might not. You might know. Do you

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know who Joel Thomases? Have ever heard that name? Yes,

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he's got the He does a podcast for Tony Merkle

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or he's on Tony Merkle's The Confessionals, but on Merkele Media.

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And it's like the something with the Rabbits.

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Feed the Rabbits, rabbit Hole, something with.

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The rabbit Hole now now last year, so I'm trying

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to find it now. He did an episode which kind

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of made sense to me, but this is like tying

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it hardcore that talks about David and as mighty men

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and how like probably a bunch of them were giants. Dude,

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you know what I'm saying. So this is kind of

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like you're the So he'd had put all that together

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and now this is like even the precursor. It just

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gives it more credence.

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So when David was on his way to become king,

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he he meets a guy named It's High the Get Tight.

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It's High is the commander of six hundred get Heights.

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All right, so we got to confirm get tights a

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giant like, we just got to go with that. So

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he's the commander of the of a six hundred man

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get Tight army. They side with David, and It's High

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becomes one of David's thirty seven Mighty Men because I went, dude,

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I've been working on David's Mighty Men for like a minute,

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and I've got a bunch of notes of crazy stuff.

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I'll try to get the highlights because it's it's so first,

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it's uh. Second, Samuel has a list of thirty seven

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and the first chronicles has the same list minus a

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couple of I would say misspellings. But then it has

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another list of another group of people that pledge their

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allegiance to him. Some of them are like moeb lionmen, yeah, yeah.

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And that is something else that that he talks about too,

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is like, are we literally talking about lion men? You

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know what I mean?

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Oh, We're going to go down that all right.

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Yes, he has eleven lion faced men from from gad

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joined with him. So it's like if it's it's really

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complex because in Samuel is just those guys, but then

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in Chronicles it's like the whole crazy army, and that's

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that's like, that's the wild part in this is you

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know when you think Nephlem the picture we have, they're bad,

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you know, because that's kind of where it started. But

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all of these examples are bad people if you will,

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that followed followed David and essentially give their life, right

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because obed Edom is a huge character in the Christian story.

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Happened to be a giant and no one talks about it.

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But right, yeah, so the lion men, so he has

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eleven of them, like I mentioned, join with him and

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they're super brutes.

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And that's a long, long story.

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And that's the Moab right, it's where we're going. Yes,

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so that story is a fun one. I took a

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little bit of time to really try to not biblical story,

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but real story, like humans on the planet, how could

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this happen? So Lot, Abram's nephew, you know the story

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they Abram's journey blah. Lot is single. At the beginning

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of the journey, he doesn't meet his wife till Sodom

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that's the first time he's mentioned to having a wife.

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Very important detail because the wife is not named. Going

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back to you know, wife's not named, but she's in there.

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She's mentioned because that's the Pillar of Salt. So he

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meets his wife in Sodom and has two daughters. In Sodom,

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he has a family. They leave Pillar of Salt cave.

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We know that story. Then his wife, you know, we

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know this part of the story too. His daughters get

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him drunk and they have ancestral relations with him. So scientifically,

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if you look at atavism, atavism is having benign genes

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or traits that either never pop up or pop up

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during specific stressors like schizophrenia, red hair, crazy height, or

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you know whatever. It can also be animalistic features, because

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you know, there's people in history that have grown tales

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and all that stuff. I think that bloodline was already

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tainted in Sodom. That's why she turned back because that

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was her family. It wasn't just you know, her house,

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you know what I mean, that was her family as

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her life. That bloodline was already tainted, and then that

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ancestral relationship was enough of a stressor to cause that

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that lioness appearance because that's where Moab comes from, is

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lots you know, the Ammonites and the Moabites from that bloodline,

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and there's enough evidence in scripture that they're not normal

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human beings. Like, there's plenty backing and lion Men has

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mentioned multiple times. I went to d C with my

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family a couple of weeks ago and there's there's a

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lion Men statue that they found in Germany.

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Yeah, so my mind is a little blown right now.

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So I mean, I'm just trying to piece it all together. Right, So,

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I mean, and it's it is, it's happening. I just heered.

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That's very you know because that's one of those things

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that people don't think about, like with Sodom, and that's

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part of the issue with you know, the way that

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they react to those angels before, right, it just kind

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of shows that it's like a telegraphing of the fact

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that they've already had relations with angels, right, and they

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know what it's like. They just can't control themselves, right,

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So we know that there's been Nepheem and stuff coming

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out of there for you know, generations.

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Yes, I take that as is very animalistic behavior. If

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you get down to the you know, as humans, the

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bare bones, there's generally some form of restraint, right, I

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mean there's exceptions.

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Exactly.

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Animals don't have that because you know, animals have the

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specific this is what's here, eat, drink, poop, you.

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Know, multiply.

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So I think again, grains are saying. I think that

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that is a kind of a precursor piece of like

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how ammonite and moabite can become because they were already

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not functioning as normal humans.

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Right right, or had been modified or tainted a little

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bit here and there somehow, right man.

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I think two with Noah, I think that's a really

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good example of that because it's specific. Noah was a

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good guy. No you know, No's great man. But Noah

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already had a family. It didn't say the Brady bunch

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was great. You know, I'm keeping these guys. It said Noah.

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It is unfortunate that his bloodline was tainted when they

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got on it, you know it. I believe it's genealogy.

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It's simple as that, because ham got there and if

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you look at the breakdown of the wording for the curse,

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it's not normal, right, it's I think it's like a

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bigger thing because you know, they go right into Canaan,

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you know, and he hadn't even had Canaan yet, so

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you know, so I think that that that is the

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telling thing, you know, the was it multiple incursions? I

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don't think it ever stopped. I think that you know

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Gen six, uh, first Corinthians, but then you look at

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bloodlines once it's tainted. Deuteronomy twenty three says the Ammonites

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and the Moabites are not allowed in the temple even

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after the tenth generation. So that means some can be

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birthed out and some can't. Right, you will always be

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a moabikee or you know, after time you're no longer

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a Caleabite.

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You know, you're you're you're pretty good now.

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Right, this is yeah, So my big thing, I mean

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I get into all this stuff, right, but my big

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thing is like my main focus of research for me

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is Bigfoot. And this just opens all kinds of cans. Yes,

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because of that, like what our sasquatch or Bigfoot? And

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I've heard this story and I think it was originally

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on the Bump podcast where this woman had a relationship

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somehow with a Bigfoot and whether they just talked or

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whatever was. I don't know, but this woman had stated

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that the Bigfoot told her that she was what is

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our he is what's called an laud. Have you ever

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heard that term? Yes, now, the put the person that

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kind of cleared it up for me and some other

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folks was Gary Wayne. You know, Gary Wayne is a

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freaking wizard. But anyway, so the lu'd that side of it.

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It just kind of makes you realize and that debt

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and and this entity kept saying that it was in

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search of redemption, right, And I don't know, like I'm

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trying to put put it all together, but it does

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because of what you just brought up about the you know,

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the genetic features that can be what's the lack of

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a better word, you know, animalistic features that get triggered

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or or yeah, or that we uh are actually you know,

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noth one of some sort, right, or some aberration of that.

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You know. I think it's got my brain spinning so good.

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Yeah, I think I would. I could get behind the

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redemption thing easier than like interdimensional you know, because I

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followed the big Foot thing too.

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I think it's really interesting.

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I remember, I'm forty three, so I remember when I

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was a kid Bigfoot and.

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Luckness Monster was like super huge.

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Yeah yeah, I.

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Always thought Lockness was like cooler, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, but I understand, but I I That's what I've

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been doing on this journey is you know, not taking

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it biblical as how could it actually happen like thousand percent,

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you know, without this crazy you know, hypothetical like literally

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just happened. And then you look at intent, right Esau,

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he messed up, and then I'm sure he's never going

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to have anything good to say from him. And then

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all of his you know, ancestral and everybody that came

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from his bloodline was absolutely not you know good if

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you want to just keep it simple, you know what

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I mean.

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So yeah, I think it's as simple as that. Two

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D man. It's crazy, you know.

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Now you enter that type of physical characteristic into bloodlines

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that intermingle with giants and everything else, and the next

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thing you know, you have sasquatch. So ish you know

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what I'm saying.

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Yeah, well I was, I'm gonna hit it. Hit you

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with one.

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So David, everyone's heard the story of Bathsheba and uh Rayah.

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He you know he fell in love and married, Well,

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didn't he marry a, first impregnated her and then he

467
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.000
sent you Rayah.

468
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.400
To the head of the.

469
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:58.039
Head of the army, to get killed. Basically all right,

470
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.200
so this is this is one wrap your mind around this.

471
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.480
Uriah was a hit Tight. Hit Tight was a.

472
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.960
Tribe of giants. It was one of the you know,

473
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.960
there was many different forms of giants. Hit height was one.

474
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.759
They're known as the terrible ones or to cause you

475
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.279
to tremor.

476
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:18.279
Yep.

477
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:25.559
But David fell in love with Uriah's wife. So was

478
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.599
she a hit tighte giant or was she normal? And

479
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.079
I've been trying to like put that together, you know,

480
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.119
in a PG form and just you know, be nice

481
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:34.480
about it.

482
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.480
But was that happening?

483
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:39.240
Right?

484
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:39.480
So?

485
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:45.319
Yeah, as the frankly, David hung out with a lot

486
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:51.319
of giants. The maybe not just giants, but maybe just

487
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:58.279
folk of you know, not human bloodlines. They're not completely human,

488
00:30:58.640 --> 00:30:59.839
right in my.

489
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.680
Search, his thirty seven men, just the thirty seven men,

490
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.319
not including the other garrisons we talked about, are comprised

491
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.839
of a minimum.

492
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:18.000
Twelve ish giants. There's two like wolf human you know. Yeah,

493
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:19.640
well I'll explain that.

494
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.880
Then there's there's an r by Arba was the father

495
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:30.920
of an Ak, and then there's somebody else that's from

496
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.599
the land of r which is in Moab and r

497
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:39.640
i aar i is Hebrew for lion, right, yeah, so

498
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.160
he had a bunch of other lions style people.

499
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.960
Because we already identified that there was what eleven or twelve.

500
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.720
The eleven specific lion faced men, yeah yeah, and that's

501
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.759
not including, like I said, the thirty seven men.

502
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:55.759
Yeah.

503
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.279
So the a ohight, let me break that down. That's

504
00:31:58.279 --> 00:31:58.799
a fun one.

505
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:03.039
So ah in Hebrew means to howl, and then o

506
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:08.000
a h is uh signifying some form of beast. Like

507
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.720
there wasn't a name for the right beast. There's a

508
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.200
howling beast of howling beasts.

509
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:23.160
Yeah, dude, yeah, man, I mean it's awesome. I uh

510
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.440
and pretty much. I know I'm going to have to

511
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.759
have you back on after I do some of my

512
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:32.640
own research too, just so I can ask you poignant,

513
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.319
uh you know, educated questions.

514
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.599
Yeah yeah, yeah, right now.

515
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.279
I'm just like, holy shit, like I'm literally my head

516
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:47.599
spinning because I am in uh yeah, I'm in awe,

517
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:52.160
which is great. It's fantastic, and uh, I don't know

518
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:56.400
how like, yeah, we got to get your story out there, man. Period.

519
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:58.519
That means a lot.

520
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.400
This has been a passion project for three years. I

521
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.559
in the morning, I have my my normal reading time.

522
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:07.480
It's just reading.

523
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.599
I'm on my third time cover to cover, and each

524
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.400
time I do a different translation. The Living Bible. Everybody

525
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.480
is listening. The Living Bible is raw, it is brutal.

526
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.680
If you have an opportunity to research that, please do

527
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.079
because they don't a lot of stuff. They don't hold back.

528
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.519
But then during the day I spend chunks of And

529
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.799
now I'll try to be more strategic, you know of

530
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.759
like I'll grab this set of guys in this scenario

531
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.000
and just see how far I can take it.

532
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.319
Just looking at which version I have up on the.

533
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.200
Oh yeah, yeah, oh man, I've got I got I'm

534
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.519
a I'm a collector too.

535
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.200
I've got that one there, and then I've got like

536
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.839
three over here. And I don't think I have the

537
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.160
Living Bible, but I will today.

538
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.119
Yes, because like even Nimrod in the Living Bible, well,

539
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.359
I'm gonna give you two examples in the Nimrod in

540
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.359
the Living Bible, only he's referred to as one of

541
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.240
the first Kings.

542
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.639
And I think that's very loaded to.

543
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.840
All these crazy stories. Also, Benaiah, one of David's mighty

544
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.960
men who might be a human in some fashion. He's

545
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.760
the son of Johiada, a valiant man from Kebzel. In

546
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.719
the Living Bible, Johiada comes from a family of fighting priests.

547
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:33.280
Okay.

548
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.280
So and again that's just the Living Bible. So when

549
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.119
I research, I like Bible Gateway because you can isolate

550
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.320
scriptures and then look at all the translations because you

551
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.760
have to, because unfortunately, there's a lot of there's a

552
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:54.599
lot of intent. I keep saying that word. But Isaiah

553
00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.000
thirty four is a great example. The most brutal translate.

554
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.079
Uh refer to the Saiir, the he goat, the I'm

555
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.599
gonna say it wrong, the im or IVM, which are

556
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:11.039
wildcats or like a lot more linemen. And it also

557
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:16.199
mentions Lilith. But if you go to other translations, all

558
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.320
the wild cats and the wild goats are in the land,

559
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.679
you're gonna miss what that means. What it's happening is

560
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.599
saying that edom is getting uh, it's it's getting judged

561
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.280
for all. It's you know, evil and what's gonna happen?

562
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.880
What will be left basically, it's like I'm gonna come

563
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.800
in kick everybody's butt. Only thing that's gonna be left

564
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.440
are the wild the wildcats and the he goats.

565
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:42.400
He goat.

566
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.760
So if you go, you know, more into that, look

567
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.360
at pan and then you look at mythology. It's in

568
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.599
the Bible as just a bastardization of genealogy. Yeah, you

569
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.360
go to another book and it's got it's a God,

570
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.840
and it's a you know, and it's a this and so,

571
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:04.480
which is it?

572
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.760
But it's it's you.

573
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.719
You would miss that in translation completely, and that's a

574
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.840
super huge point of like how crazy this landscape actually is.

575
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:20.280
Yeah, it just shows you that you you can't you

576
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:36.360
just can't limit yourself. Sorry, so the oh God, what

577
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.400
was I going to say? Yeah, so freaking translations, man.

578
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.679
It it just shows that you need to do something

579
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.079
like go to Bible Gateway where it gives you all

580
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.920
the things and allows you to pick and choose. But

581
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.360
it's like I have unfortunately, why should I have to

582
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.199
pick and choose? This is part of the problem, right,

583
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.559
And and that's where stuff gets confusing, is like, yes,

584
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.960
God's word is God's word, but God's word is given

585
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:11.159
differently in different languages and and or translations to an extent, right.

586
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.519
I mean, well, that's what I was saying with intent

587
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.280
because and you can't there's always exceptions, So I don't

588
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.800
feel like you can always be like it's.

589
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.679
This you know, well no, and that's and that's what

590
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.920
I'm trying to say is it's there is some gray.

591
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:30.440
It's not black and white. It's not clean like we wish,

592
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.280
and that's how humans work. We wish things were super clean,

593
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:35.639
but they're not.

594
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.000
Yeah, like there's gonna be people when they're when they're

595
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.960
translating it, it's like, uh, we probably shouldn't say he goat,

596
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.719
and then there's gonna be the people that don't don't

597
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.400
understand it. Now I've oh, look, so one of one

598
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:58.199
of one of David's Mighty Men, it's listed as there's

599
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.079
I'm ast I didn't write it down, but it's basically

600
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.599
a Herodite. And then there's another herodite. But when you

601
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.880
look at the which means mountainous, but if when you

602
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:13.039
look in the Orthodox Jewish because I rely on that

603
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:20.440
big time, it's a Herodite. And then the guy underneath

604
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.079
them is a chaority c H A R O D

605
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.000
I it's not spelled the same, so it's but in

606
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.480
the other translations, somebody for whatever reason was like, oh, it's.

607
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:32.800
The same thing.

608
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.039
They're just because you know Hebrew, they have the H

609
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.880
and that's how that's how they pronounce the words. Huge

610
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:44.000
mistake in my studies. If I'm right, you know, wrong,

611
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:48.960
it's all good. But a chaority is a an ancestral

612
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:56.639
ancestral tribe from India, a specific specific part in India.

613
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.400
Then you kind of really thinking, like you know that

614
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.400
they were like they were exploring and checking other lands out,

615
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.119
and uh so I was like, all right, well, if

616
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.960
I'm right, wouldn't it be wild if there's some kind

617
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.079
of megalithic structure or something weird around that area and

618
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.599
there are there are you know, there's megalithic structures in India,

619
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.360
like northern India, and then you know them.

620
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.519
Yeah, so it comes from those those So am I right?

621
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:26.079
Am I wrong?

622
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:30.239
I could see that happening because a lot of times

623
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.159
in translation, if they this would I don't want to

624
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.639
paint people in a picture. But if they don't know it,

625
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.599
they just kind of go with what they think it is.

626
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.920
An example of that is is Ben Hennam ben Henam

627
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.840
is you know, the place of burning your children, passing

628
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.239
your children through the flames. Through translation, that becomes Guiehana

629
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.599
or Shiol. But that's a huge error because Henam is

630
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.960
a name, it's not an It is an area for

631
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:06.400
the person that owned it. It's a crazy Canaanite name

632
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.239
because in the King James version it's son of Hinnam

633
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:17.360
next to the Valley of Giants, so later on it's

634
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.599
known as Gihana, the burning place. Wrap your mind around

635
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.519
who Henam is and what he was doing. And he

636
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.480
had like like in a valley.

637
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:28.440
It was a.

638
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.880
Grated out pit kind of thing, and it was a

639
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.199
you know, it's a big thing of like your children

640
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:37.519
would pass through the flames.

641
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:40.440
So who's Hennam? What was he doing?

642
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:44.719
Dude?

643
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.920
Yeah, you've got.

644
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.639
I've never this is the first episode where I've really

645
00:40:53.760 --> 00:41:06.000
ever been so taken aback. But just because because what

646
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.400
it just opens up so many cans of worms. Man

647
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.199
that that, and you can't grab you just can't hold

648
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:19.119
on to those, you know, you can't grab them.

649
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:20.079
It's deep.

650
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.760
It's just definitely it's way more complex because again we

651
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.920
try to put things in little boxes, especially as men

652
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:33.559
m h and those boxes just can't hold this, you can't,

653
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:40.519
they can't. So I am, uh yeah, a little blown away. Man.

654
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.039
That's why I said, like I wrote the book, but

655
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.239
I was noticing stuff and I'm like, man, I want

656
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.400
to talk about this stuff too, So I started the blog.

657
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:50.800
It's really quick reads.

658
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.760
And I always I stay in the Bible, so I

659
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.119
always attach supporting scripture, you know. And it's just these

660
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.440
wild little things that I find that.

661
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:12.360
You know, yeah, man, I love your artwork on the

662
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:18.280
uh your Instagram, Oh appreciate it. Like where are you

663
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.239
pulling that from? Oh?

664
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:20.960
Most of it?

665
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.000
I just I just try to grab some art from

666
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.199
from online. I mean, I'm not going to take credit

667
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.239
for that, you know, the livestone stuff. I'm not a drawer,

668
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:32.280
so I you know, I I Stephen Kirth was the

669
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:37.039
guy that that I teamed up with five Stones. Incredible guy.

670
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.840
He's in the comic book world, like the actual comic

671
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.840
book world. Since I was like super new. He was

672
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.639
awesome with me and like kind of guided me on

673
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.320
you know, extra structure and extra things you wouldn't think about. Yeah,

674
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.039
this next book, because I want it to be organic.

675
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.119
I like to work with different artists. To get just

676
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:56.920
completely different takes.

677
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:57.800
Working with a.

678
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:02.639
Guy coincidentally in Brazil name is Joe al Philippe. I

679
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.960
just loved his style and I was like, hey, man,

680
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.079
I don't you know, I don't know if you're into

681
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.000
biblical work, but I'm doing this crazy thing with Joanah,

682
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.079
and I think you're going to really capture it. He

683
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.880
was super down, and you know, we got the first

684
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.880
three pages out. I'm getting ready to because I do

685
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.320
the paintings. I'm geting ready to print it out and

686
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.639
do the painting and stuff. And it's gonna be Leviathan,

687
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.719
not not a whale because you know.

688
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:32.079
Again which I think, you know that's more plausible.

689
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.800
Oh, for so many different reasons, Yes, so many different reasons.

690
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.280
And what we're gonna do with that, I'm I'm excited

691
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:47.039
because I haven't described Leviathan. I when I when I

692
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.679
wrote the script I put in take from the Bible,

693
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.920
and I gave the scriptures. You know, I talked to him.

694
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.599
I said, look, I want your imagination to go wild

695
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:03.400
solely on biblical alone, nothing else, nothing outside, no hypotheticals,

696
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.800
just biblical description. And I'm not going to tell you

697
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.400
what I want or what it to look like, you know,

698
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.079
because he's the artist.

699
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:11.440
I'm not.

700
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:15.960
Yeah, I mean, and uh so that's gonna be wild.

701
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.440
And then also we're we're suggesting that the worm in

702
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.440
the story that eats the gourd is the shamir worm,

703
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:28.280
which is a stone cutting worm that coincidentally one of

704
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
Banaya we mentioned David's minu men.

705
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.719
Yeah, in the mid Rash.

706
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:39.840
It's theorized that because Banaia ended up becoming Solomon's headguard too,

707
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.920
that he found the shamir for Solomon and that's what

708
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.679
they're using to help build their temples. Right, so we

709
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:50.320
suggest I don't say it, but I suggest that that's

710
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.400
that's the worm, because I don't I don't take I

711
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.800
don't take anything face value. Really, but these stories are

712
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.559
very complex. I mean, you can't, oh, just because think

713
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.239
about that. Think of the logistics of say Jonah is

714
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.320
a six foot tall guy sitting Indian style, so he's

715
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.039
probably three and a half four foot you know, bottom

716
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.960
to the top. The gourd is gonna have to be

717
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.800
four to five feet in height, and it overhangs, so

718
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.760
call it seven eight foot. The worm eats it without

719
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.840
him noticing it, without it falling on him and he

720
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.360
wakes up to just the sun blistering on him.

721
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.039
It's gotta be a big worm, right with that.

722
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.840
That's the way my mind works on these things of

723
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.559
like how can it actually be It's got to be

724
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.920
a big worm. And then you know, I'm a storyteller,

725
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.119
so I don't want to just like a worm. And

726
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.280
I found that Shamira thing, like, you know, that's the

727
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:50.199
extra detail.

728
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.239
That's some salt get people interested.

729
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:59.840
Yeah, for sure, damn yeah, man, Yeah, it makes way

730
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:04.039
more our sense that the whale is not a whale

731
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:05.800
in that story.

732
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.440
Well, the Hebrew word is gilgadal, which is great fish.

733
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:14.119
That's why I call it great fish, but goodall g

734
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.039
a do o l is a Hebrew word used a

735
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:21.960
lot of times to emphasize height and structure, the oaks

736
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:25.360
of Mamre, the oak oak of More, or the great trees,

737
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.159
the godll trees. Goadal etsy is what it is and Hebrew.

738
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.360
So I tried to hang on to that word because again,

739
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.679
think of it, like logistically, he was in the belly

740
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.039
of the beast for three days the beast. The belly

741
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:45.079
was big enough that you know, stomach acids weren't burning

742
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.400
him up and he didn't get digested. He was able

743
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.079
to sit in that belly. So it's got to be

744
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:50.639
a big animal.

745
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.079
Yeah, and he.

746
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.679
Got swallowed, so the mouth has to be big enough

747
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:56.679
to where it didn't get chewed accidentally.

748
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.480
And yeah that's super detailed. But that's Adam fair for you.

749
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.719
Yeah, so you know it had to be bigger than

750
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:06.840
what we're being told.

751
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:16.719
Yeah, right, goodness man, yep, it's gonna be fun. When

752
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:21.800
do you think it's coming out? Yeah?

753
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.239
Yeah, we're shooting for end of the year. We're shooting

754
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:24.880
for the end of the year.

755
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.159
I hate to call it because man, oh man, putting

756
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.079
a book out, you know, there's any publishers out there listening,

757
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.480
holler at me. I got some big stuff, I got

758
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.079
some wild stories wrote. I've got a really good one

759
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:41.679
with Daniel three and four because I grew up on

760
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:43.880
with American Werewolf in London.

761
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:48.679
Yeah, so I did three to.

762
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.960
Four page It was about four pages breakdown seen by

763
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:56.840
scene of Nebukanezer turning into the man Beast.

764
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.760
How wild is that gonna be? Many?

765
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:12.840
Pretty wild? Pretty wild? Man, I'm trying to think. So

766
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:17.079
back to five stones. So you so all right, well,

767
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.599
how many You've been on a few podcasts, right, have

768
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.639
you ever whoever you talked to about this? Like, have

769
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.840
you gotten any pushback? You know what I'm saying.

770
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.159
No, that's the great part. Uh, you know, you know

771
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:32.159
God is good?

772
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.119
Like I feel confidently like this is a this is

773
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.719
a lead thing. Everything is lining up the way it

774
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:42.519
needs to the people that need to see it are

775
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.880
seeing it. You know, I'm I'm welcome to it because

776
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:47.920
you know, I'm not saying I'm I know everything.

777
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.519
Yeah, yeah, No, it's it's what I'm wondering. It's like

778
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.960
it's there push you know it has there been pushback?

779
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.079
And no, I I've if I had to answer that,

780
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:03.320
I feel like I've done enough legwork to at least

781
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.400
hopefully make the pieces make sense.

782
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:08.039
You know this this.

783
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.000
Agree because it can't even I can't even hardly talk

784
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.639
right now because it does make a lot of sense

785
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:19.840
and it's so simple, but yet it just hits you

786
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:26.440
like a damn bat. You know, it's like holy, yeah,

787
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:28.719
it kind of shakes you a little bit. Have you

788
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.519
ever had a reaction like that?

789
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.760
No, I've again, everything God is good. Everything I've got

790
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.840
is like wow, I didn't think about it, like that.

791
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.000
Yeah, well, yeah, no, and that's that's a good thing.

792
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.920
I'm just like and I am not. I am not.

793
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.440
It just makes too much sense to me. And but

794
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.920
it's like on the other side of that, I guess

795
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.559
I've never really other than that episode that I was

796
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.360
telling you about, I've never really heard about anyone dive

797
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.480
into it hard, except for like Gary Wayne, and his

798
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:11.119
breadth of work is just so enormous that that's like

799
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.920
reading the Bible almost. It's when I say that, it's

800
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.840
like it's an undertaking right to like try and go

801
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.599
down his wrath, those his his breadth of work, because

802
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.079
he's what doing this thirty years.

803
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:30.079
I've got a lot of respect for Gary. When I

804
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.440
first started this journey, I didn't know the extent of

805
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.639
all of this. I initially thought I was just writing

806
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.119
a book, and I wrote a good script, a really

807
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:40.960
aggressive script.

808
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.360
But then I was led to get into more in the.

809
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:52.199
Podcasts and I found I eventually found Gary Wayne, and uh,

810
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:56.719
excuse me, I ended up. I mean I just went

811
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.920
crazy for like weeks and trying to learn everything I could,

812
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.800
excuse me. So it hit me really hard that I

813
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:08.519
needed to edit my script, like I need to really

814
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.760
dig in and I you know, I try to always

815
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.480
do the right thing always. So I reached out to

816
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.199
Gary and I'm like, hey, you know, I went through

817
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.239
this thing in my life. I lost my father, I

818
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.199
was led to write a book. I'm incredibly inspired by

819
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:26.239
your work. I just wanted to let you know. You know,

820
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:30.400
I got a lot of respect for you and appreciate

821
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.599
everything you do. And he ended up writing back, which

822
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.400
was crazy, and was like, hey, man, thank you. You

823
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.559
know da da da da da. So I wrote back

824
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.599
and was like, hey, I I always want to do

825
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:42.480
the right thing, So I want to give you props.

826
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.360
Do you mind if I give you a shout out

827
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.000
in my book? And you know he wrote back, you

828
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.320
know it was an honor. So in in Five Stones,

829
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.320
I give my credits. I give Gary Wayne a credit,

830
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:59.760
and I give doctor Randall Smith. And you know you

831
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.159
got to do the right then you got to give

832
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:02.199
credit what credits due?

833
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:03.880
Oh absolutely, you.

834
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:04.320
Know what I mean.

835
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.360
And uh, if it wasn't for people like him and

836
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.639
La and and and you know all these guys that

837
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.119
have been doing this work, you know, it's it's inspiring

838
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.400
us to keep and then you know who are we

839
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.679
We're inspiring the next people, you know what I mean.

840
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.000
And that's what this whole thing's about. So, yeah, you

841
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.639
bring up Gary.

842
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.280
Gary's awesome. It blew me away how nice he was

843
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:26.239
in the emails, you know.

844
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:31.840
Oh yeah, dude's super nice and he's just awesome. What

845
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.000
about Ed Maybury? You ever you know who that is?

846
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.440
Remind me he he has faith by reason? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

847
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:47.280
I'm just I'm wondering his take. I throw, I like

848
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.400
to throw things off of him and just see his take,

849
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.320
you know. So I'm wondering if he's even well, he's

850
00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:01.199
going to become aware of this, you know what I mean, Yeah,

851
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.280
just because he's you know, he's one of those people.

852
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.960
He's done, he's done the work and uh, you know,

853
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.880
let's see. I'm excited to kind of see is his take.

854
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.679
The other person is Doc justin Doc Brown. Have you

855
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:19.480
ever I was on?

856
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:20.679
I was on the dig?

857
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.639
Yeah all that those got Yeah yeah, I got a

858
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:28.079
lot of respect for those they were the second podcast

859
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.840
I was on, so mad respect for those guys to

860
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.920
take the chance on me. Yeah, you know, just some

861
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.480
random dudes send an email about a book and we

862
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:37.199
ended up.

863
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.000
Me and Doc.

864
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.320
We went crazy on Esau and all that stuff on

865
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:41.760
the show.

866
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.719
Oh yeah, well, considering his book.

867
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.239
Right exactly exactly.

868
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:52.840
So it does. It does intersect for sure. It's like

869
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.280
all this stuff is behind the scenes, and stuff that

870
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.400
you're doing is like giving you that behind But then

871
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.400
you realize once you start digging into it, it's actually

872
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.719
not behind the scenes. It's right there. You just have

873
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.559
to take it at Yeah, you know.

874
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:18.679
What I'm saying, man, No, absolutely, absolutely, So I'm trying

875
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:25.880
to find some notes the three guys that, of course.

876
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:26.880
I'm not gonna be able to find it while I'm

877
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:27.360
looking for it.

878
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:29.840
Yeah, isn't that how it all works here?

879
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:30.840
It is so So.

880
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.760
David arrived at Manaheim and he was warmly greeted by Shoby,

881
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:41.119
son of Nahash was an Ammonite Myshir, son of Emial

882
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:47.440
of Lodobar and Barzilia, a Gileaite Gileadite of rog right

883
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:50.039
off the bat. Shoby's an Amonite, so he's not human,

884
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:57.280
he's not all away human. The landa Mashir of Masher

885
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:04.960
Loado Bar was part of Sihan's land Bashan, so he

886
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:11.599
comes from the landa giants Bam and Barzilia he comes

887
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:16.719
from the territory of the Gersherites and the Machiothites, one

888
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.239
of the first early kicked out bad guys.

889
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:21.480
So David gets.

890
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:28.119
Warm welcomes from these three non humans.

891
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:32.039
Yep, but see, no one would know that. I mean

892
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.760
some people know that. But that's that's the stuff, because

893
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.679
I've heard of, you know, a lot of these things

894
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.719
from Gary and his like he'll go through it and

895
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.079
it's just like it makes your head explode, but he'll

896
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:50.039
go through it. And now I recognize all those those names.

897
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.239
So it's like cheese, Like, where how did I miss that?

898
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.880
You know? And I got to read it.

899
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.440
Man, you tracked the thirty seven Mighty Men.

900
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.079
A good chunk of them are Benjamites or come from

901
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.000
Benjamite and you know, we know that they weren't like

902
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.960
the best been. A good chunk of them come from

903
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:15.639
lands pre uh Canaan, well pre uh Conquest, I should say,

904
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.000
come from those lands.

905
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.679
So it's it's like a no brainer. It's like they

906
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.400
absolutely are not humans.

907
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:27.559
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, what it looked like. You know,

908
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.320
none of us were there, so we can't say one

909
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.800
hundred right if you if you, if you, yeah, if

910
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.599
I'm from Chester, Virginia. If you you paint a picture

911
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.159
of Chester, it'll make sense when you get to know me.

912
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:45.119
Right, So yeah, no, I And and that's the stuff

913
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.199
that that throws you off, That throws me off, they

914
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:51.039
say it throws you that throws me off is like

915
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.440
we're given this this man. The bottom line is this

916
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.880
I need Like, who's the do you remember Lord of

917
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:08.119
the Rings? Yeah? But who's the director? Phil Jackson?

918
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:12.679
That's not it doesn't wear shoes right something, Phil Jackson,

919
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.000
Peter Jackson, Peter Peter Jackson.

920
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.480
Because Phil Jackson, who's Phil Jackson? I'm mixing. It doesn't matter.

921
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:23.000
Somebody Peter Jackson, right or whatever his name is, needs

922
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.760
to get a hold of the Bible and get after

923
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:32.519
it because people would not it would change And I

924
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.960
don't think it's gonna happen, because it would change the

925
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:39.440
world period. If if it was, if a movie was

926
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:46.519
made as it should be, it would people would Yeah. There,

927
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:52.840
it would be the most life changing thing ever period.

928
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:58.559
At some point somebody would be watching that and they

929
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:00.239
would look over and be like, hey, do you that

930
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:01.119
they built ball back?

931
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:03.480
Right?

932
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:04.639
Hey?

933
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:06.039
Do you think that they had anything to do with

934
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:13.280
the pyramid? Somebody would say, oh, hey.

935
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:18.800
Wait, seventy thousand stone carriers and we're talking about people

936
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:24.239
that are you know, people is a loose term there, obviously,

937
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:29.559
but come on, I and or but you know what,

938
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.519
it would make sense, right, I mean, I think people

939
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.159
leap too quickly from like, oh my god, we were

940
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.679
inundated literally with giants on this planet. And this is

941
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.679
part of the whole reason the day Loge happened, right,

942
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:49.280
The whole reason the flood happened was to cleanse the

943
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:53.599
earth of all this stuff that literally it got to

944
00:58:53.639 --> 00:59:01.039
a point where it was so tainted, right, I guess

945
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.000
is the right word. Maybe, But at the end of

946
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.920
the day, people so quickly leap from you know, a

947
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:16.880
human to then oh well it's lost technology, like you know,

948
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.480
straight to acoustic technology, straight to whatever what are we

949
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.800
doing to levitate these stones and this and that? Not

950
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:31.239
saying that maybe you had you know, two or maybe ten,

951
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:40.159
you know, fifty foot giants that literally could pick this up.

952
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.280
Dude, I would argue, you know what, I mean, who knows?

953
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.719
I would argue all day that there is no actual

954
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.960
explanation right right now, you know, I mean, because because

955
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:55.639
you mentioned the levitation and the magic and I mean,

956
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.440
we've all we're in this world. We've heard a million

957
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:03.960
different explanations, none of them logistically or correct. Right if

958
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.599
if you were you were the manager, and you were

959
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.320
walking in you were cutting the lights on, Yeah, you know,

960
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.559
how can you get them tires out? None of those

961
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:18.320
actually make sense. I'm nobody, But if you apply a

962
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:23.360
big person, I would argue that logistically, now it does.

963
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:24.599
You can actually see it.

964
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:29.039
Yeah, it makes more sense, right, especially when they have

965
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:36.880
knowledge or at least maybe their ancestors had knowledge that

966
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.440
was then part given to them.

967
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:45.519
Or Eequel twenty eight. The king of tire, he's getting

968
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:49.159
his uh, he's getting his due. His equal comes in

969
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.000
and God tells him, remind him that you were guard

970
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:56.360
You were the guarding cherub in my garden, and you've

971
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.480
lost your way and this is this and this and that.

972
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.519
That doesn't say you were like it or I look

973
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.639
to you as says you were. Remind him you were,

974
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:08.039
and you've lost your way. So that means Genesis six, right,

975
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.360
he was an angel and now he's the king of

976
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:16.280
tire and tires of land. It's in there. There's millions

977
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:20.760
of stories of it to back that the Prince of tyre.

978
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:25.360
His penance was that he was getting wealthy off his

979
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:27.760
special knowledge. And this is why I'm saying, because what

980
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.559
you just said, he's getting wealthy off his special knowledge.

981
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.440
Where's he getting that in college? From the king that

982
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:35.400
used to be an angel?

983
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.960
Yeah, And that's why I mentioned that Nimrod thing earlier

984
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:43.719
about the kings, because I think that's a big.

985
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.840
Part of the nephilom Oh.

986
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.079
Yeah, and what they were doing, they were conquering, they

987
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.800
were becoming kings, and they were also starting religions and

988
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.840
you know, calling himself gods and stuff like that.

989
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.320
Well, yeah, and that's exactly what I mean. It totally

990
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:08.960
makes sense in the grand scheme of all that. And

991
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:14.119
we talk about like principalities right in the Bible and

992
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.760
that how much power they have over certain areas. And

993
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:25.719
they were given that dominion to an extent right, and

994
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:30.000
that was obviously in a lot of cases fallen that

995
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.840
were those you know, in charge of those areas. What's

996
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.719
their area? Period? So what other thing would you call

997
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.599
them other than a king or a god little g

998
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.800
god of these areas? Right, And if they have the knowledge,

999
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:51.039
then they're imparting all of that to select people probably right,

1000
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.679
I mean this is this to me is just how

1001
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.920
it went. And it's like where did all that go? Right?

1002
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:57.679
Where did it go?

1003
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.360
So we're told that they were cave men in those times, right,

1004
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.599
you were lucky, you were lucky to live past eleven.

1005
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:08.760
But then in the Bible there not only are they

1006
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.960
building ships in track going other lands, there's reference to

1007
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.360
bringing the a peacock and.

1008
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.960
An ape in.

1009
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.840
That's bigger than what it sounds like, right, yeah, right,

1010
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.320
because it's not like, oh, they just found a peacock

1011
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.719
because there, I mean what we're right, So where they

1012
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.760
find it, how they find it, how they you know that.

1013
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:34.239
It's like those are little details to pa to tell you,

1014
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:35.719
like they weren't cavemen.

1015
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:38.039
They were exploring the earth.

1016
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:45.159
Them ships, I could imagine, because if you backtrack from

1017
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.239
where they were getting the wood, and the significance of

1018
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.360
the wood comes from the cedars of Lebanon, and it

1019
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.760
was the desired wood. And they would also different people

1020
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.320
in different times would have specific groups go to those

1021
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:04.159
trees because they were forget the wording, but basically like

1022
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.760
master tree cutters or whatever the case.

1023
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:09.840
Yeah, master barbarists.

1024
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.280
Exactly, anybody cut a tree down. So that's more than

1025
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.800
what it sounds like. And then the fact that Amos

1026
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:21.480
two nine, God compares Amirites to the size of cedar trees,

1027
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:28.000
so it's cedar trees were, yes, and then it took

1028
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.440
big people to cut them down, and it took big

1029
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.559
people to make rafts and float it down the river

1030
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:34.480
to whoever needed.

1031
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.880
Well, you have all the rumors, and I wouldn't say rumors,

1032
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:44.320
they're just like there's and I don't know what to think, obviously,

1033
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:48.119
but there are some spots around the world where it

1034
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:54.519
looks like there's giant trees or there were giant trees, right,

1035
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.559
I wonder ant you just don't know.

1036
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.920
Man oaks and maomra you familiar, right.

1037
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:03.960
That's and that's what I was just thinking because you

1038
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.320
brought that up earlier. And it's like, I mean, you know,

1039
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:13.760
there's there's these giant, literal like mountains that look like

1040
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:19.199
tree stumps, right, And I mean it comes from somewhere

1041
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.360
like where does the where does all the tree of life?

1042
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:28.639
Or like the but but in all the not biblical

1043
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:33.719
but the other religious aspects where you know, Norse mythology,

1044
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:38.000
you've got the you know, the tree the world tree.

1045
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.599
I mean did that just you know, was that a

1046
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.760
figment of somebody's imagination, like you know whatever, or was

1047
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.159
that a real thing that got chopped down or whatever?

1048
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:49.079
You know what I mean? Yeah, And and that's like

1049
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.840
we're talking about just different materials that then than whatnot.

1050
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.840
And and then you brought up the stones with like

1051
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.639
ball back the Trinity stones, which how much do those

1052
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:06.280
things way each? Do you remember? It's like three tons

1053
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:08.039
or something like that.

1054
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:10.679
Yes, like monumental.

1055
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:15.079
We can't even we can barely move a thirty ton

1056
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:20.719
stone in our modern age, you know, like they had

1057
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:22.480
to build it took him a year to do it

1058
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:28.199
in Los Angeles. It was a thirty something ton stone.

1059
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.039
Yeah, the things that we're capable of, but we couldn't

1060
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:34.519
move that stone at this point too. It's not like

1061
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.440
that was we just found that, you know, right a

1062
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.719
month ago. Like we've been on this planet a minute

1063
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:43.880
and we still haven't gotten past that. Yeah, it's on

1064
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.360
purpose at this point in my opinion, it's purpose, that's

1065
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:47.039
not sure.

1066
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:49.199
I mean, Jesuise.

1067
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:51.079
Dude.

1068
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:54.360
But so speaking of oaks of mom Rae and u

1069
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:58.639
root cutting from Book of Enoch, you got oaks of

1070
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:04.360
momre Oakhum more in the Valley of Eschel. So in

1071
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:08.159
the whole story of Oaks of Mamre, Abram before he

1072
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.119
becomes Abraham, he's camped out in the Oaks of Mamrey

1073
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:16.840
and he befriends Mom, Ray, Eschel, and Anu, all Amorrites.

1074
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:21.800
Now it is specific when when God's telling Abram you

1075
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.400
know you're going to become the father of nations, he

1076
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:28.199
talks about Canaan, but it says the Amorites have not

1077
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:31.000
witnessed their evil yet.

1078
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:33.800
So they were they were good. They were good giants.

1079
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:38.039
Abram partnered with with three giants, and then that's how

1080
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:41.400
they got lot back. But specifically, like I said, Oaks

1081
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:44.760
of Mamre, so that was his trees, his forest, whatever

1082
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:47.760
it was. Then you got Valley of Eschel. You remember

1083
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.280
Valley of Eschels when the spies brought back two of

1084
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:54.480
them carried those huge groups of great way, I would.

1085
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:56.159
Look at it. Now, I'm not a book of v

1086
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.639
notot guy, but I would. I could rationalize root cutting

1087
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:07.519
in all of those examples as uh using special knowledge.

1088
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.480
To make things yeah right. And then you you know

1089
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.719
the example of those massive trees that you know, the

1090
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:19.079
rocks that look like trees. I could see that. I

1091
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:19.720
could see that.

1092
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:23.199
Right, because I mean we could you can we as

1093
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:27.439
normal humans can pollinate and make this plant and like that.

1094
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:30.760
You know what I mean. Well, that knowledge came from somewhere.

1095
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:45.199
Yep. Yeah dude, Well Adam, thanks man for breaking my

1096
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:52.479
freaking brain today. Uh, do me a favor and tell

1097
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:56.119
everywhere everyone where they can find you, and we'll we'll

1098
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:59.640
have to set up another time shortly to dig into

1099
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:01.520
some more stuff, if that's all right with you.

1100
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:03.720
Oh man, I love it. I love this stuff. I

1101
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:05.640
love talking about this stuff, so it's an honor.

1102
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.119
I appreciate it. Yeah, man, I'm.

1103
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:13.680
On Instagram e Adam Ferris Eadamferris dot substack dot com.

1104
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.359
It's all my writings. Five Stones dot Big Cartel dot

1105
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:18.279
com is the book.

1106
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:20.600
I just I told you.

1107
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.319
I just started a YouTube page to kind of get

1108
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.600
more in depth, okay with the blogs, which is e

1109
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.920
Adam Ferris on YouTube. I'm accessible reach out if you

1110
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.239
want to holler, you want to argue, you want to

1111
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:34.439
pick a pick some stuff apart.

1112
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:35.000
I love it.

1113
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:38.680
I love talking about this stuff, so yeah, I'm accessible

1114
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:40.359
reach out.

1115
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.199
Awesome. I'm literally buying five Stones right now.

1116
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.560
Oh man, that's I appreciate that, brother.

1117
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:52.439
So uh just ridiculous, man. So yeah, we definitely gotta

1118
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:54.199
turn I don't know, maybe we got to turn this

1119
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:58.800
into like a series or something, because yeah, I just

1120
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.199
need to film my brain ain't with some knowledge to

1121
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:03.520
so I can ask you some more questions and get

1122
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.359
it squared away, because dude, it's just opened the can

1123
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.560
of worms for me. And other people might not feel

1124
01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:14.119
that way, but I have a feeling that they will

1125
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:14.800
or they do.

1126
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:20.680
So that's awesome. We need a tower babbel and stones and.

1127
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:27.479
We can speak in my language. So so yeah, so

1128
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.199
we'll have you back on really soon. Awesome, all right, man,

1129
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:32.039
I appreciate it.

1130
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:33.439
Yeah, appreciate it.

1131
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:33.600
Man.

1132
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:34.439
I have a good.

1133
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:37.800
Yeah, I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared,

1134
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.760
hold me hostage and they don't fight fair, who don't

1135
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:42.640
pray for me? And white on my tests?

1136
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:44.960
Who gonna save me? If you not right here?

1137
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:47.920
Move this darkness and make my sight clear to take

1138
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.479
me your way because I don't like you goes to

1139
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.039
my past. They fill in the night here, wake me

1140
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:55.520
up and shopped in my nightmass.

1141
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:16.239
We trapped in my nightmas trowning trowning. I move.

1142
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:20.279
The deeping apparitions of all my demons are my thoughts,

1143
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:23.079
are making trees and all alone going.

1144
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:24.600
You're me screaming.

1145
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:29.279
Manifestations of my fierce regrets that stretched out for light years.

1146
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.600
You can almost touch the light homies right.

1147
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:35.640
There, body free but trapping my Nightmas, I don't.

1148
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.119
Let me ja our life of Faid.

1149
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:43.119
All my life is faith, All my life is faced

1150
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:44.159
on that else way.

1151
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:45.960
I don't miss John.

1152
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:52.199
Her life is fading, Her life is fading.

1153
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.399
We shutting my lightness.

1154
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:03.640
We