March 11, 2025

Extinct? Think Again! Mammoths, Bigfoot & Hidden Creatures EXPOSED!

Extinct? Think Again! Mammoths, Bigfoot & Hidden Creatures EXPOSED!
Extinct? Think Again! Mammoths, Bigfoot & Hidden Creatures EXPOSED!
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Extinct? Think Again! Mammoths, Bigfoot & Hidden Creatures EXPOSED!

Are mammoths, Bigfoot, and other so-called "extinct" creatures still roaming the Earth? 🧐 In this mind-blowing episode of Broadcasting Seeds, I sit down with Justin from Cryptids of the Corn Podcast to uncover shocking evidence of hidden species,...

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Are mammoths, Bigfoot, and other so-called "extinct" creatures still roaming the Earth? 🧐 In this mind-blowing episode of Broadcasting Seeds, I sit down with Justin from Cryptids of the Corn Podcast to uncover shocking evidence of hidden species, cryptid encounters, and government cover-ups. From Bigfoot in the deep forests to sea monsters lurking in uncharted waters, we dive into the science, conspiracies, and high strangeness behind these elusive beings. Links for Cryptids of the Corn https://redcircle.com/shows/cryptids-of-the-cornhttps://www.youtube.com/@UCoSZ-5D1zz_DbD-v8iuIbeAhttps://open.spotify.com/show/1MlXPn2LH7fQziMLh8L2Ng 🔎 Topics Covered: ✅ Bigfoot encounters & unexplained sightings 👣 ✅ Are woolly mammoths still alive? 🦣 ✅ The hidden world of sea monsters & giant eels 🌊🐍 ✅ De-extinction projects—real science or deception? 🧬 ✅ Why the peer-review process silences cryptid research 🔬 ✅ The shocking truth about DNA evidence & unknown species 🧪 This episode is packed with paranormal encounters, cryptid research, and lost species mysteries that will challenge what you think you know. Could scientists be covering up evidence of creatures that were never truly extinct? Tune in to find out! 🔥 Subscribe & Stay Updated 🔥 👉 SUBSCRIBE NOW for more deep dives into Bigfoot, cryptids, government cover-ups, and paranormal mysteries! 📢 JOIN THE CONVERSATION! What do YOU think? Have you ever seen something that defies explanation? Let us know in the comments! #Bigfoot #CryptidsOfTheCorn #Mammoth #ExtinctSpecies #CryptidEncounters #SeaMonsters #Paranormal #BroadcastingSeeds #HiddenCreatures #ConspiracyTheories #LostSpecies

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All right, we are live.

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We are here with mister E. Yeah, okay, that's where

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we'll go. Mister E from Cryptid to the Corn. Tell

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us who you are and what you do.

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Hey guys, I am the Great and Powerful Mystery aka Justin.

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I am one half one third cryps Corn podcast. I

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have a co host and my wife helps behind the

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scenes a lot of the time. So we are a

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well we're a cryptied you know, conspiracy paranormal podcast. We

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like to say we're scientific and magical thing combined. Uh

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oh gosh. We have like three or four hundred public

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episodes now and I probably two hundred Patreon episodes. Uh,

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we're we're nuts. We've been speakers all around the US.

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We've been very blessed with that side of life. We've

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actually been uh a feather I always put in my

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hat is we were speakers at the biggest Bigfoot festival

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in the world, which is nuts nuts right. It's sixty

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five thousand people. Wow, it didn't even look real like

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it just it. I mean I've seen like pictures like

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we've been to some big like out outdoor music conferences

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and stuff like that, but everybody's out there for bigfoot

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it's crazy, but yeah. You can find our podcast on

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pretty much every podcast catcher. If you listen to podcasts

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or music even anywhere, you probably find our podcasts. The

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website is Cryptids of Thecorn dot com. Real simple, Just

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the name of the podcast cribscorn dot com and you're

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gonna email us. It's cribs Corn podcast at gmail dot com.

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Jay the my co host, is normally the promotion guy.

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I'm super bad with self promotion. That's where you can

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find all of our t shirts. You can find links

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to all we do other podcasts, and we produce a

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couple of shows for other people. So all the links

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are on the website, and you know, it's kind of

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like an umbrella thing. I just came out with a

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book and you can get it from there too. Living

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UFOs The Ocean of Our Head. I got there, Okay.

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I'm like, I know, I got a copy sitting near me.

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They're better be that's I mean, that's pretty much us.

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You know.

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I was like we were talking off air Minago. I

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was what's called a fisheries field crew leader and the

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fisheries field technician aka a field biologist. That's just the

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easiest way to explain it to people, because when you

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get into biology, there's about five thousand terms for about

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everything for every job position.

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For non biologists people, it's just easier just to say

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field biologists. I was in the field and I did biology.

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Let's see, I did that for years. I did dangered

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species surveys, I did environmental habitat assessments. I was in

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the worst waters in the US and some of the best.

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We actually found two species so extra pain it means

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locally extinct. So one species we found in Illinois was

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extra pated and the government said did not exist anymore,

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and we were doing a survey to prove it didn't

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exist anymore. For them, we were trying to find it. Obviously,

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a company had started building before the survey was finished,

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and our last site we had we caught one the

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whole time. One doesn't count because if anybody knows anything

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about most animals, it takes two to tango. Yep, right,

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one animal doesn't matter. The last site right as this

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giant warehouse is being built where it's not supposed to

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be yet, we caught like one hundred and forty of them.

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They the stopped construction, immediately ripped all that.

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They were not happy. Oh and we were in the

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courts forever about it, saying that we planted fish and

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stuff like that, like you can't even find these fish,

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and so we went.

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Out five and forty they're extinct allegedly, right, Yeah.

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And then we got a freckle belly mad Tom in Ohio,

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which was a four hundred and fifty mile range expansion.

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So that's right, eybody don't know what man Tom is

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there a little venous catfish. Uh, they're about the size

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of your thumb is a pretty big one. So for

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four hundred and fifty mile range, so means that it

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moved back into its old range four hundred and fifty miles.

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A fish to size your thumb, that's pretty impressive. You know,

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there's humans walked out and that's pretty impressive. But a

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fish to size your thumb to swim up the Ohio

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River and get back into Ohio, that takes a lot

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of work. So like that's my background a little bit.

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Jay my co host, he's not here, but uh, he

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is a bowling all mechanic. His family owns the bowling

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Alley here in town. He is much more of the

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conspiracy side of the podcast. Uh, he's a learner. So,

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like he always likes to say, and I hate it,

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but I'll say it because he's not here. What is

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he always how's he saying? I'll tell you the facts

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and he'll tell you the truth. Uh yeah, tru.

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Right, that's awesome.

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There there, Jay, when you're listening to this.

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Yeah, but you've got.

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The you know, you've got to have that juxtaposition in

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guests or in hosts.

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Yeah, we have a lot of fun. We've been doing

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this a long time. Not a long long time, but

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we've been doing this a while. And uh, no reason

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I still enjoyed is because of Jay.

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So yeah, no, I understand.

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So finding extinct species are proving that they're either not

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extinct or they are.

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What do you think of Forrest Galante?

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Now, okay, I don't know him personally, right, and I

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don't want to speak ill of anybody's career because he

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has a very established career and he's he has So

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I found what's called extra paid. I want to make

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that clear for everybody at home, just because it's a

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little different. The extra paid means locally extinct, gotcha, so

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that they've still those fish still existed other parts of

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the country. It didn't exist in that state anymore. So

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that's a little dere I just want to point it out.

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So yeah, no, it's a distinction for sure.

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Uh. But so what Forrest did is career. He did

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find extinct species. So why is it important for an

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animal to not be extinct, even if there's several individuals

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out there. Is because extinct species in the world have

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no rights, So the second they declared extinct, they no

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longer have any legal protections. So critically endangered is the

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highest you can go before you become extinct as far

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as the Red list is concerned. That ICU n list.

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And that's so that's that's not every country abides by

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that list. Most countries do, so you know if you're

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critically endangered, because they'll try to work out benefits for

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protecting those animals and that kind of stuff on a

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global scale. Uh. So like the pig nosed Galapagos tortoise,

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he found one, yep, and there was one in a

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private collection. So there's a chance that those guys will

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come back. Because his career. If anybody haven't seen that

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little episode of Forrest did with it, it was literally

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on an active volcano. H Charles Darwin himself was responsible

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for a whole extinction of a tortoise species because when

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they got to the Galapagos, they turned all the tortoises

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upside down, put him in the bottom of the ship,

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and used them as meat and food for like the

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next ten months. Right, So, and I don't I don't

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care for Charles Darwin much either as a biologist, but

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he got a lot of credit for stuff he probably

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shouldn't have got credit for Forrest. So Forret's career before that,

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he found a crocodile species, he found a couple small

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cats and then a big cat.

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I'm trying to remember the zanz of our leopard.

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Maybe yeah, yeah, but there was.

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Just trailcam footage of that.

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But either way, it's it's it's a leopard where leopards

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allegedly don't exist anymore, right.

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Yeah, I mean we dealt with that kind of stuff

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all the time with either it was a lot of

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times it's very small fish. There's a lot of small

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species the same. So like for uh all, do us

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anybody's ever seen a musky or a pike. They have

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a littler cousin called a pickerel. All the babies look

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the same, so when you catch one, you don't know

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if it's a musky, pike or pickerel. And it really

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matters for water quality, right.

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Our pickrel don't care nearly as much as a musky does.

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So muskie are breeding, you know it matters anyways. Uh,

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his later career. I don't trust colossal bioscience.

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Right, And that's the folks that are trying to do

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the mammoth reintroduction.

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Also the dialacene maybe right.

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And the Stellar Sea cow.

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Oh there you go.

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Uh, So we talk about all those animals because I

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firmly believe those four animals we just said, maybe the dodo,

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that's take out the three uh, the three mammals we'll

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talk about. I firmly believe they're not extinct. So the mammoth,

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the trili scene, and the Stellar Sea cow. So we

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had literally before they announced Stellar Seacow project, like the

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month before, the two hour episode on the Stellar Sea

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cow still being there. Uh. My biggest the biggest modern

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example was in twenty eighteen, a group of trawlers about

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forty miles off the coast of Washington, Solidmnate and each

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each trawler, you know, passed in fifteen minutes. Saw the

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manatee right in the Pacific Ocean and the cold waters.

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So the manite species we have alive today are all tropic. Yeah,

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Stellar Seacow is one of a few cold water. Uh.

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And they were pretty even temperate to people said it

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was waving at him and uh that's why they you know,

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they got murdered very fast because they were really big

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and they could stab him really easy.

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Right.

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So when I say, Costal Bioscience has bought a lot

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of celebrity biologists. So Forrest is a celebrity biologist. You know,

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he's you know, he's TikTok insta. You know, he does

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all these shorts. Uh, there's a couple. There's a female

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palaeobiologists that is another one. I can't remember her name

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off the top of my head, but she does great content.

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But so Colossus has started buying these creators. Anybody's ever

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seen the CEO of Colossus. She claims to have a

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doctorate in several things. If you watch her talk and

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stuff like that, she's a professional bs her got Uh,

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I've seen it. Biologists are weird people. I've worked with

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tons and tons and tons of biologists, not a normal

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one of the bunge, including myself. Uh, they just you don't,

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you don't. You can't do it and be normal. There's

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just there's a switch in there that they don't they

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don't quote. So I kind of think because Colossus, before

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the de extinction of animals, heavily worked in the the

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extinction of m sorry, the extinction of extinct animals. They

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worked on preventing extinction of modern animals Okay, condors, white rhinos,

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those kind of things, and they had success with that.

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They had a lot of trouble with funding. The second

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they mentioned that they wanted to work on mammoths, they

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became the new Jurassic.

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Park, literally like cash Cow.

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Yeah. I think so, here's my reasoning. And we've done

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episodes on this, mostly on Patreons. I think it's the

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first time I'm talking about it publicly. So anybody hates me,

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I'm sorry. What has happened is the mammoths in the

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Yukon and mammos in Siberia are still seen to this

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day heavily.

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They a lot, actually, there's a lot of sighting reports,

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tons thousands.

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That Siberia is the size of most massive countries in

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their massive thousand people living in a hole of Siberia

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and it's almost all around the.

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Rim and it's still prime habitat habitat like it's it's

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exactly as it was ten thousand years ago.

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So why there's almost no biology the research done in

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deciber because it sucks. In the winter, it sucks, and

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in the summer they have a three month summer where

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it actually in a lot of Siberia the snow will

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come off. It's the biggest wetland in the planet. It

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has the worst mosquitoes. So yeah, I mean like that

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that the mosquitoes have such a shorter life period that

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when it's go time, they'll eat everything alive. So there

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was a group biologist to try to go in the

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early two thousands and they made it one hundred miles

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into Siberia before they turn around because they were literally

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driving in these like atv. You know, if anybody knows

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what an argo is, it's like a big six wheeled

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aquatic vehicle. I have one in the back, semi aquatic vehicle.

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H there were mosquitoes shoving themselves into the crevices and

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making a paste out of themselves because they wanted to

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get in at these people so.

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Bad, that's crazy.

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So they turned around because they literally they were getting

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drinks alive.

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Uh, and there's nothing you can do about that. I

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meant at Yeah.

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So what I believe is it was it's much much,

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much much cheaper to have a pure exhibition team go

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out there, find a couple of mammoths, catch them because

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they're seen so regularly up there. And then after I

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kind of said that idea, they announced that they already

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had built in Siberia this mega compound to house their

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mamos when they're done cloning them, and that they're so

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two years ago they said they would have the first

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baby mammoth of twenty twenty five. That's this year, right,

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And now they're saying twenty twenty six. I don't think

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it'll be a baby. I think they're going to show

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us a full blown adult mammoth and say, see, we

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actually were ahead of you know, we were faster. We

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went to surprise everybody with this big animal, right right.

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So I think it's I really think you could catch

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because the people that have gone out and looked for

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them are doing it on their own dime. And it's

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like thousands of dollars. I think you could go out

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and really find these mammos for a couple million dollars.

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In class of biosciences, I think put two point three

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billion dollars into the mammoth project. So then the trial

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scenes the next one, which we have biologists and trail

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camera photos and people that live there. So ifnybody don't

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know the trilo scene episode or the trial scene thought

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trilo scenes in the thirties or the twenties and thirties

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were blamed for lamb killings and chicken deaths in Australia.

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Trial scenes pretty much ate small marsupials. In birds, their

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jawls opened extremely wide and they had very fat They

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had very frightening teeth for a lot of people, so just.

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For just for listeners though another name is the Tasmanian tiger.

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Tiger thank you. Uh Yeah, they had really poor jawl strength.

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So even though they looked like a wolf or a

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tiger and they had this big open jawl, their bite

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force was very weak compared to those predators. Yeah, so

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for them to fight lambs and sheep even was very difficult.

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They they hate mostly small things.

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Because their mouth literally opens to almost a ninety degree

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angle like right, and then you think about that the

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if the if the muscles can extend that far, they're

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not going to be that strong snapping back.

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It's like it's exact opposite of a crocodile or anybody't.

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Crodiles have on their bite force down. They have none

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for opening. So you can sit there and hold a

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crocodile's mouth.

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Yeah, exactly, they have I think it's fifteen pounds of

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pressure to open their mouth and man seven eight hundred

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you know, per squarange to close.

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It right, And everyone thinks that the so is it

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dilascene or trial a scene.

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Either way heard, I've heard people in Australia.

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So let's let's say Tasmanian tiger. Everyone thinks it's like

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a wolf and it's just not the case. No, it's

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much more much it's not even a caneid.

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Yeah, it's a more soupial. It's more it's a kangaroo essentially.

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When you really look at their skeletal structure or watch them,

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so they hop when they walk. They still hop, which

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if you look at some of the old videos when

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they're running and stuff. They have a hopping gate.

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Yeah you can see that at the ones that they

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had in the zoo and in the was it London

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there was?

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Yeah, Ohio had one too.

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That's awesome.

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Uh. No way videos is modern day videos of people

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that's just a fox, but you watch it has a

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hopping gate and you can do stripes on the rumph.

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So what happened is Australian government put a bounty on

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them of fifteen dollars back then.

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Pert being a tiger a lot of money.

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Today was we did it, It was like two hundred

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and eighty bucks or something like that per tiger killed.

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So people made their whole careers on going and killing

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every tiger, every cub, everyone they could find. So what

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happens is you ever heard of the rattlesnakes that don't rattle?

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Okay, So in Texas, Uh, there is a whole population

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of rattlesnakes now that no longer rattle. Rattle snake roundups.

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So what they did in Texas, and it's a horrible practice. Uh,

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they went through and they killed all the rattle stinks

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just to kill the rattlesnakes. So they take a big

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metal piece of wood or a big metal bar and

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hit the rocks, and all the rattle stinks of rattle.

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So the only ones that were left were the ones

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that don't rattle. So we selectively bred up population of

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rattlesnakes in Texas that no longer rattle. Uh so yeah,

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we did that. We man did that to that animal.

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So what happened to try this thing, in my opinion,

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is something similar. The ones that survived were the extremely

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shy ones. If anybody didn't know, or five of the

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six most unexplored rainforests in the world, or in Australia

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there's one. There's one rainforce that no modern scientists has

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gone in more than a mile because every plant animal

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is venomous and poisonous. Literally, they have death trees there

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that if you touch them suicide trees. Yeah, yeah, if

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you touch it's just a tree. I mean you want

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to get to.

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Australia is a wild place, man, literally, I mean like wild,

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not just as in like wild, as in it's just

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some of the well, it's like a whole different ecosystem, right,

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It's insane.

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It's where God put everything that didn't play well with other.

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Things exactly exactly.

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But I won't work in North America. Put it in Australia,

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it'll be okay. Uh So that's what happened with the Triacity,

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in my opinion, that their numbers got dramatically shortened. The

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ones that were left were in the really remote areas

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and they were purposely avoiding humans.

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You know.

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Genetically they learned that humans became an apex preaderiom, So

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what do you animals do to their apex? Avoid them

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at all costs. So you have all in Australia, you

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have all this unexplored habitat, you have sightings that are

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going up by the year. So that tells you it's.

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Not just in Australia either. It's also in Tasmania as well, right,

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but it's both, yes, Yeah, apparently in the New Zealand

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or not.

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I don't think they ever made that because New Zealand,

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even though it's part of the island.

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Change not that clear, very cold.

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Yeah, yeah, Imperia is of elevation, right, Yeah, so it's

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a lot.

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It's Is there any other places though that they exist

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besides Test Islands? Maybe so?

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Yeah. So from Indonesia, which just right on top there's

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a line in the channel in between the Indonesian islands.

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They call that uh huh, there's a name for that, right,

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that animals don't cross.

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Yeah, it's so bizarre.

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Stand on an island and be looking at an elephant

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on a different island, and the elephant will never make

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it across the channel. So it's where the Asian wildlife

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and the Australian wildlife get. It's only like twenty miles.

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Yeah, right, it's like the English Channel. I mean it's

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not very far.

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Ems and cassowaries are great swimmersay, but no, there's a

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kayaker out there that was like fifty miles out and

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he sees his thin coming out them and it's just

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a castowary just swimming between the islands.

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It's crazy.

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He's happy. So that's the try the scene. That's what

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its case is is that it was hunted to extinction.

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Supposedly still modern sidings. There's plenty of biologists want of

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a big park. Ranger has like the pictures of what

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are I think are good pictures on his cell phone.

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He's like, yeah, if you drive through the parks in

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the early morning, they'll run, you know, they'll right across

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the road. So classical bioscience in Tasmania built a eighty

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million dollar lab in the middle of the main forest,

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and the Australians and Tasmanians are freaking out about it

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because they're like, we could put that money into prove

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and they still exist. Who need to clone them? We

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don't need to bring them back. They're still here. They

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just need protection, right, And I think Colossal Bioscience already

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knew that that's the point of the lab.

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It's yeah, kind of like the same thing in Siberia, right,

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and I.

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Think they're still out there.

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Right, which is just a Pacific manatee.

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Issues five feet long?

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Though, Wow, that's insane. They're big, because so what else

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do you have?

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You have the manatee, You've got the is it the

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what's the name do gong something like that.

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Yeah, there's three or four species of manate true manatee,

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and there's two subspecies of do goon. H. Here's the

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thing for everybody at home. You shouldn't play with any

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wildlife ever. Manatees are generally pretty friendly.

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Uh.

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In Florida.

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I don't know.

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There's ever been confirmed death by manate In other parts

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of the world, there has been, and it's been mostly

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on accident. On the manatees part drowning people because they're huggers.

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Yeah yeah, wow uh so they.

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Actually they hug their babies and we're about the size

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of a baby, So that's happened. Do guns will drown

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you on purpose. Do goons are like dolphins. They get

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sexually tensioned, and when they get that from competing with

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other they get angry and they'll take it out on

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other species. Humans see a do gun and assume it's

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amanite and then they drowned you because they're sexually frustrated.

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Wow, I just got drowned by a sexually frustrated sea

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cow exactly right.

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And do gums are very active, very fast, and so

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if you look at their habitats that you can see

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the big difference in behaviors. Manatees are both fresh and

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salt water, right, they don't they really very very often.

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They are very very rarely they go into open water.

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They stay in estuaries, they stay in the coastline, they

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stay in inland rivers, they stay in wetlands. Do guns

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are the opposite. They're open ocean animals. So if you

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look at the animals that the do guns dealing with,

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they have predators they have animals that will hurt them.

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They have animals that they have to compete with. Mantas.

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I mean, the only big thing with the manatees an alligator,

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and alligators are not gonna tackle and.

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They don't usually get that big I mean, not not

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to deal with a.

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Yeah, not to actually sit and hunt you know, a

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fourteen foot three, four thousand pound water cow.

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Yeah, it's amazing.

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I'll tell you one story about manates. That's one of

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my favorite animals. So Blue Spring State Park in Florida

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is one if anybody wants to see amnite, you just

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want to see one. Blue Spring State Park, Florida. Uh

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it's like five dollars for the carload to go in.

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It is.

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We weren't well, I wasn't there that long ago, but

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we had friends and it's amazing.

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Uh So you're not if the mante comes in, they

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don't let anybody get in the water, and if you're

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in the wire, they tell you to stand still. Uh

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manteus to play with people though all the time. Uh

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So we were there watching the mantes on the observing

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doc and there was these three like eight year old

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boys on a log in the in the spring and

462
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they kept getting thrown into the air, and we were watching.

463
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.160
It's just big adult male manatee and he's sitting under

464
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:04.799
the log and the boys would climb back up on

465
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:06.759
the log and he would take his head and bounce

466
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:08.960
them up in the air, and they always would climb

467
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:10.440
back on the log and he would They did this

468
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.000
for like a half hour, and then there's like four

469
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.799
or five little man hees had come around. Just watching

470
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.799
these kids go flying, just having a ball, it.

471
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.880
Just makes you wonder their intelligence level, right.

472
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.119
I think many, many animals are much higher intelligent than

473
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.960
humans give them credit for it, because humans kind of

474
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.680
have this apex compact aka complex to where we have

475
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.200
to be so much more different than every other living thing.

476
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.960
Humpback whales. We just an episode about the humpback whale

477
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.000
talking to the AI. Do you see that?

478
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.200
Yeah? I saw that? Why I read about it? Yeah.

479
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:51.440
So basically what we've identified over twelve to fourteen thousand

480
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.960
characters in humpback whale language. They have basically first last names,

481
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.839
they have special greetings, they have a social structure, and

482
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.440
humpback whales and made don't know, will go out of

483
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.519
their way to protect other species of whale and other

484
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.119
species of animal. Uh, they're the only animal that I

485
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.799
know of that has built in brass knuckles too, right, serious? Ye?

486
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:14.880
I mean they grow they have what's called a barnacle

487
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.480
pad where they specifically want barnacles to grow in parts

488
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.319
of their body, so they grow them on the tip

489
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.960
of their snout and they grow them on their fins.

490
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.599
So when they whack something with their big fourteen foot

491
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:28.119
long fins, it has a big basically a reef on it.

492
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.640
Just like you know, just tear something apart.

493
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.640
But no, so why we had We've known their language forever.

494
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.200
The problem is is we can't type. We can't hear

495
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:42.799
the response, recognize the response, and give something back quick

496
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:47.240
enough to keep them engaged. So they'll like we know

497
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:50.319
their words, like so this AI they just made we

498
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.359
can recognize in real time and respond appropriately. So this

499
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.519
hump back whale was just circle around this boat for

500
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.559
half an hour talking to this aim had a full

501
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.920
blown conversation with the computer. And the only reason he

502
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.559
left is he kept asking where you are? Where are you?

503
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.640
Where are you? Where are you? Because he's looking around

504
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.480
and we think he's at eighty foot long animal And yeah,

505
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:15.880
little boat like I can hear you, but I don't know.

506
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.519
I don't know where you are. And so they think

507
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:21.599
he just got and got spooked because he was mean.

508
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.599
I mean, having you watched Star Trek four where they

509
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.599
literally do they literally talked to humpback whales.

510
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.480
Come on, they're aliens, the whales.

511
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.480
We're gonna wipe out Earth. The one thing, the one

512
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:36.119
thing you had to keep is the whales.

513
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:43.519
Yeah, damn on a Naki talking the whales man guardians,

514
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:44.920
guardians of the galaxy.

515
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:50.759
Uh. Now, so your sea cows are another one that they're

516
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.880
they're gonna break back and they were hundreds of extinction

517
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.400
by man h But I think they're out there in

518
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.119
the grass meadows. I didn't. I think we kill all

519
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.359
the coastal ones and I think so. We just discovered

520
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:05.000
a grass meadow in the Atlantic the size of about

521
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.480
half of Ohio that we never knew about. So people

522
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.359
have this idea that we have the ocean mapped. We

523
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:10.279
know nothing.

524
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:15.640
We don't know anything. As as usual, we know nothing.

525
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.759
The shipping lane map covers so little parts of the ocean.

526
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.599
People have this idea that, oh, there's cruise ships that

527
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.200
go all over the ocean. No there's not dian affers

528
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.960
in the ocean has no traffic.

529
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.720
I mean, have we ever heard of shipping lanes?

530
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.359
Like, there's a reason that boats stay in certain areas and.

531
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.680
If you go out of them. That's why these ships disappear.

532
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:37.799
Because nobody's coming to help you.

533
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.359
The kraken coming baby, that's why.

534
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.160
So they attached this has been four or five years ago.

535
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:47.119
They attached a camera on a tracker to a fourteen

536
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.839
foot Atlantic camera head and Atlantic camera heads if you

537
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:52.960
don't know their head shape. They hunt animals mostly under

538
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.039
the sand. That's why they're shaped. They's mandibular pores and

539
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.599
stuff like that in their heady. So this shark did

540
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.440
something weird. It bolted into the middle of the ocean,

541
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.079
and it was super weird. They thought maybe it was

542
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.319
upset because they had to put a camera and stuff

543
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.799
on it. So it was panicking and running, and then

544
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.400
it started getting warmer and shallower again, and it came

545
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.039
up on this in the middle of the Atlantic, this

546
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.039
seagrass meadow that nobody had known about forever, and it

547
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.200
started hunting turtles and it was about half the size

548
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.680
of Ohio where he thought it was all deep sea

549
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.599
ocean was I mean about forty foot of water, so

550
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.319
perfect to grow these giant sea beds. So that's what

551
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.920
the stellar seakel lived in. So we know very very

552
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.240
few of them in the Pacific, but we know they exist.

553
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.720
And what I mean by that is we find fry

554
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.079
so baby fish, the species of fish that live in

555
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:47.480
those grass meadows. But they're broadcast spawners, so their eggs

556
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.799
end up in the current and end up everywhere. So

557
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.839
when you get the eggs, you know somewhere out here

558
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:55.960
there is a giant seagrass meadow. We just don't know

559
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.480
where it is. I mean, you know, like I said,

560
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.720
half the size of Ohio sounds massive. But now when

561
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.079
you're talking about seventy five percent of the planet.

562
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.200
Isn't the sea the stellar sea cow?

563
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.079
Yes, isn't it about twice the size of like a manatee?

564
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.559
Ish? So it kind of it kind of follows the lions.

565
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.440
The reason I'm saying this is it kind of follows

566
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.480
the lines of because it lives in the northern colder climate,

567
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.480
they just get way bigger.

568
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:28.359
It's called barring Chin's rule or Barrington's rules something like that. Yeah,

569
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.119
so further away you get from the quator the bigger

570
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.480
animals get uh yeah, it follows the same rules. Uh yeah.

571
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.720
But they were found throughout a lot of parts of

572
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.079
the Pacific. They were spotted in random, weird places. There

573
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.839
was actually an island that was called near the equator

574
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.480
called Manatee Island in the middle of the Pacific that

575
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.279
by the time scientists got there, there were no more

576
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.119
manites because they'd ate them all. There's no manites out

577
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:53.960
there though there's not supposed to be manits out there,

578
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.119
So they were probably a population of stellar sea cows,

579
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.960
but no sea cows. Why they were so easily killed.

580
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.960
So forty five feet long, right, massive animals. We're talking

581
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.839
twenty thirty forty thousand pounds, So for everybody at home,

582
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.039
a semi trailer is fifty two feet long, so a

583
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.720
little shorter than a semi trailer, and a bout is heavy.

584
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.039
They were friendly to people. They had a unique disposition

585
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:24.039
to where they would come up to boats because so

586
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:25.920
what they would do is they would live in giant

587
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.680
clp forests and seagrass meadows. Why they weren't murdered by

588
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.240
orcas to extinction is because orcas are terrified of kelp

589
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.480
forest because animals with the tail fluke like that will

590
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.000
get tangled and they'll drowned right right right, Why sharks

591
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.720
don't go in them, Orcas don't go into They patrol

592
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.720
the edges. The Stellar sea cow at hands and it

593
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.480
would weave its way through these forests with its babies,

594
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.000
and they were very comfortable, so they really didn't have

595
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.200
any predation events, so they weren't scared of anything like

596
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.079
the dodo. But everybody says dotes are dumb. No, doughs

597
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.440
just didn't have predators. And then we came beaten to

598
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.559
death with a rock, so you know, it switched really quick.

599
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.880
So the natives that lived along with these guys purposely

600
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.200
did not hunt them because of whether it was spiritual

601
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.839
spiritual things, just they had a human nature to them,

602
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.920
so you know, didn't feel right because they'd come up

603
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:18.599
to you and they would talk and blow kisses at

604
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.000
you and all that kind of stuff. Right, And then

605
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.160
the Stellar's crew discovered them and they were declared extinct

606
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.559
twenty years after the Stellar crew discovered them, because.

607
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.559
Which was when seventeen hundreds.

608
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.839
It was early eighteen's, late seventeen something like that. I

609
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.440
think it was eighteen's it was eighteen something. The Selexic

610
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.960
combat with numbers. But what they would do is they'd

611
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.920
come up behind him and they literally had a sea

612
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.480
cow spear. They would just stab them in the back

613
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.519
of the head because they'd show their head. They'd come

614
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.799
up and be like, yeah, I think you guys.

615
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.039
Who are you guys?

616
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.559
Yeah? So in two thousand and like four or five

617
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.960
a Russian beach, here's a group in Russia or walk

618
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.759
along the beach and they were I think they were

619
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.480
rock collecting and manate that's the best way they can

620
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.240
describe it. Invanity was in the shallow waters playing and

621
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:12.079
they had one out there and they were patentent and

622
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.440
stuff like that in Russia on the coast and then

623
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.240
like it was really really big. It just looked like

624
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.079
a manatee. And so I think they're still around. I

625
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.480
think they're in very low numbers and I think they Yeah, right,

626
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.720
I think so cool.

627
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.880
I am. I have a Yeah, I don't really like

628
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.000
the ocean anymore.

629
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.799
I was in well, I was in yeah, well, I

630
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.799
was in marine, the Marine Corps, and I spent plenty

631
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.240
of time in a bow. But I was a I

632
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.160
was in reconnaissance in the Marines, and we we dove.

633
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.839
I was a diver, so, but we also spent a

634
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.200
lot of time out in the ocean. And where I

635
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.480
was stationed at Campbell June, you have a hammerhead breeding

636
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:58.920
ground off the coast there where literally they would they

637
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.519
would film shark we right, and we would still be

638
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.160
out in the water all the time, finning doing what

639
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.360
you know, physical training, but finning, and I remember getting

640
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.599
and it scarred me. I have serious trauma because of this.

641
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.760
But at the end of the day, we had a huge.

642
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.199
Hammerhead.

643
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.159
Actually there was two of them that were just way

644
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.480
too close for comfort, right, and we could go, you know,

645
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.360
look underneath, and thank god.

646
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.440
Visibility was really good that day.

647
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.320
But I mean thank god, or maybe I'd rather be ignorant,

648
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.360
but we actually got I say saved, but who knows

649
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.840
if we were saving. But there was a bunch of

650
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:50.320
bottle nose dolphin that chased them off, chased the hammerheads

651
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:55.760
off from us, and then commenced to bump us. And

652
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.599
that is a terrifying situation because this is a twelve

653
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.599
hundred the animal. So when they touch you, it it movie.

654
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.840
I feel it, man, And I've never seen somebody walk

655
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.239
on water. But my buddy walked on water like he

656
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.719
it was absolute. He came out of the water with

657
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.440
his fins like, oh my god.

658
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.719
So, so you were scared of the wrong animal, right,

659
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.760
Sharks kill four people a year.

660
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.400
Yeah, we'd be getting raped by the dolphins.

661
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.639
Dolphins kill forty people a year.

662
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.400
It has right, Oh, I was scared.

663
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.159
I was scared too, because it's just massive, Like you

664
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:33.920
don't realize.

665
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.239
I mean, so dolphins, like I said, they kill around

666
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.719
forty people a year in the world, and sharks fell

667
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:40.239
about four.

668
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:41.400
That's insane.

669
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.320
There's movies like jawls and stuff like that.

670
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:43.760
Yeah.

671
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.320
Yeah, slippers p r apartments very different.

672
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:49.599
Yep, for sure. No.

673
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.639
I remember we used to shark fish a lot. I

674
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.880
love sharks. I've been in the water with some really

675
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.679
big bull sharks. I'm only I never really had a

676
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:01.639
scary experience with sharks because we've always treated with respect. Yeah,

677
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.840
I'll tell you the big bull shark story that we had,

678
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.679
but I can't tell you. We were on Daytona, New

679
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:11.320
Smirna in that area beaches and day in Florida, yep,

680
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.880
And we were shark fish and this lady would just

681
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.280
scream ask that we're attracting the sharks. They're like, lady,

682
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.760
we wouldn't be here like the world. Like, so the

683
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.719
shark bite capital of the World or sorry, the US

684
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.159
is New Samurna Beach, Florida because it's a popping ground

685
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.280
of six different species. So you got all these baby

686
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.599
sharks that are like biting people's hands because they think

687
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.079
they're fish.

688
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.960
Yeah, so you know, people get they're ignorant kids right there.

689
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.519
My kid bites me, uh anyway, but she's screaming. We're like,

690
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.719
go on the pier. If you go on the pier

691
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.840
in New Samurna, Daytona, there's sharks swimming in and out

692
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.599
of people all day, every day, not bother anybody. If

693
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.880
you don't want to get bit by a shark, don't

694
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.960
go in the ocean. There's no such thing as shark

695
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.239
infested waters. They live there.

696
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:01.800
You're in there. You're in there.

697
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.079
We built it for a reason. If you don't want

698
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.079
nothing to touch you get a pool, all right. No,

699
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.519
So we were shark fishing, me and my dad off

700
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.480
of Daytona, so everybody don't know. He gets kind of

701
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.199
deep and then there's a sandbar and then it gets

702
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.960
deep again. So we're standing on the sandbar and we

703
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.639
have black tips who were keeping uh. This big bull

704
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.440
shark comes in and she's slowly passing in front of us,

705
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:31.000
looking at us, goes past, turns around, comes closer, slowly

706
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:35.719
going past, third time closer. So so on the fourth time,

707
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.920
I got the butt of my rod ready, and what

708
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:40.760
I'm gonna do is I'm gonna hit her kind of

709
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.760
hard right behind the gills. Bull Sharks are not used

710
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.280
to being attacked, so if you do that, they freak

711
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.679
out and you won't see the rest of it. So

712
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:51.880
she comes by and I bump her. No, I mean,

713
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.599
I'm not hitting her to hurt her. I'm just bumping

714
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.159
her to let her know, Hey, I know you're here

715
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.679
and I don't want to hear Yeah, Sacond, I bumped her,

716
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.639
She took off. We didn't see her with for hours,

717
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.079
never seen her again. So she sharks. I mean, I

718
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.039
like sharks easy, like more than dolphins to be here

719
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.960
in the water with, because they're the same way every

720
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:15.599
time you're not guessing, you're not trying to. They don't

721
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.559
have moods like dolphins. Do you know that you can

722
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.559
swim dolphins? State people and then dolphins right people to death.

723
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.199
So there's you know, the dolphins have a little bit

724
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.159
of a wide spectrum the guests, which.

725
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.599
Way do right right, just like humans, right.

726
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.960
Yeah, I mean that's dolphins are very much more like people.

727
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.760
Yeah, and it shows too because they're more I mean

728
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.800
that we will we know they're way more intelligent, and

729
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.800
they're more intelligent that in a way that we can understand.

730
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:45.599
I guess it is the right way to I.

731
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.480
Mean, there's that there's still four US dolphins. I can't

732
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.400
remember it was navy or marines that were training these

733
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.840
dolphins to take out ships. Yeah, and they're still out there.

734
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.800
They quit the program and they still bombs on them.

735
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.199
Insane and they live quite a while too.

736
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.360
Forty fifty years have been on the species.

737
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:06.480
Insane.

738
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.639
I mean, you're smart. Very few predators, great whites. They're

739
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.440
they're kind of an animal that flips back and forth

740
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.440
between being a predator and being a harass you know,

741
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.599
harassed by dolphins.

742
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:17.000
Yeah.

743
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:21.760
Yeah, but orcas eat them. Uh, that's pretty much it.

744
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.079
Yeah, or because they're terrifying too.

745
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.440
They they I just can't get over the fact that, well,

746
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.840
I mean I can it makes sense that different pods

747
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.599
have different languages, and like the fact that people can't

748
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:41.840
understand that. Literally like a pot that even other pods

749
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:45.800
they can't communicate with each other because they don't speak

750
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.199
the same language. Right, It's like taking us and having

751
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.159
you know, people that only speak English.

752
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:56.440
Go try and walk around Russia or or wherever you.

753
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.519
Know, and I don't know what you're saying.

754
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:03.599
Yeah, So, and they have different habits, they have different

755
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.000
all the different stuff, the way they hunt, not they hunt.

756
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.480
It's it's insane. So in Alaska, for example, like you

757
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.440
just said, there are three different groups of orca. Now

758
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.079
they have family dialects and then they have regional dialects.

759
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.119
Like you said, you took an orca out of Alaska

760
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.840
and dumped it in the Arctic or the Antarctic, they

761
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.559
would have no idea what those orcans are saying. They

762
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.639
even though it's habitat and everything that they didn't matter.

763
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:33.960
I'm not saying that orcheress would be mean no or

764
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.679
nothing like that. Just they they can't understand each other,

765
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.880
but that's how they speciate. So in the same habitat,

766
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.119
you will have a crew of orcas that is just

767
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.400
salmon eaters or just fish eaters, yeah, the stealers. And

768
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.559
then you'll have the whalers all living in the same group,

769
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.199
right on top of each other, the same territory and

770
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.159
not bothered by each other because you know, they's called

771
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:01.280
the food partitioning. Yeah, so dolphins know the difference. So

772
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.320
dolphins will hang out with the fish and orcas, not

773
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.960
the whale eating orcas because they're on the menu for

774
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.280
those guys, right, But they're helpers and they work together

775
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:13.079
with these guys. So people always I wonder that because

776
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:14.840
you'll see videos of dolphins and orcas hanging out and

777
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:18.239
stuff like. That's one kind of orca, right, you know,

778
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.440
it's not the whaler orca chasing down you know, blue

779
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.639
whales and that kind of stuff.

780
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.400
Oh yeah, those are some insane videos of them hunting,

781
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.800
you know, especially with the when you've got the young

782
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.320
whales and you know the defense, well that's when you

783
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.039
see the defense stuff like a whale of tear you apart.

784
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.280
Man, like they eat.

785
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.199
They have a peaceful to them, but they are big

786
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.039
and when they can move.

787
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.000
Fast, oh yeah, that's what I mean. They get after

788
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:51.159
it like they can. They're fast like and another one

789
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.199
that's terrify which it's the tooth whales. Right, So you've

790
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.559
got the sperm whales or a whole nother animal and

791
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.559
that is just they. I can't believe how fast they are,

792
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.320
Like it's insane.

793
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.599
With spermacetti in their head. So everybody don't know. If

794
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.559
you look at a sperm wos skull, it's much more

795
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:11.199
like a crocodile. The big round thing is spermacetti. It's jelly.

796
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:12.400
It's just pretty much jelly.

797
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:13.239
Uh.

798
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.679
They use for echo location in sonic boons. U Like

799
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.199
you said their last so tooth wals, there's right now

800
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.639
we have four groups of cetaceans left roughly, we have

801
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.039
the balenes, we have the tooth whales, we have the porpoises,

802
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.719
which are everything or goes down. And there's actually beaked whales.

803
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.320
Have you ever seen a beaked whale? No, they're extremely rare.

804
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.199
A lot of the species have only been seen twice. Uh.

805
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.559
There are whales that grow tusk okay, and they go

806
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.440
to the deepest diving animals a caviar's beaked tail. So

807
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.079
they either grow two tusk right at the front of

808
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.039
their mouth, not like a like they're tusk, or they

809
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.400
grow two tusk like a boar.

810
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:52.519
Wow.

811
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.199
Okay, they're extremely peaceful, loving animals. They're very very rare

812
00:42:56.199 --> 00:43:00.880
depending on which species, but they have giant gal and scars.

813
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.679
So these guys go to the bottom deeper than sperm

814
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.400
whales and they fight stuff down there that we have

815
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.239
no idea about. Everybody hasn't seen a beach to whale,

816
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.639
their gink go tooth beach whale, the Caviers beaked whale,

817
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.559
the white topped beak whale, and the bottle nosed beach

818
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.320
whale or some really cool animals. Just look at pictures

819
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:19.960
of them. Yeah, because you don't.

820
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.639
I wrote it down because I'm all over it.

821
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.760
They're very so it's an unknown. They're very secretive. They're

822
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.280
very divers. Uh. The Caveers beaked whale holds the world

823
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:33.480
record or mammal longest breath hold and mammal deepest dive.

824
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.400
And it was on accident when we found it because

825
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:37.960
one it bumped into an unmanned sub.

826
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.440
Oh my gosh.

827
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.079
So they're like, what you know, what is that? It

828
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.920
was Caviar's beaked whale. He's hunting, he's you know, so

829
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.280
that depth was like, oh, I don't want to guess,

830
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.760
but it was like eighty five hundred meters or something

831
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.519
like that. In it was three times deeper than the

832
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.159
deepest sperm whale.

833
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:56.880
So we're talking and we know the sperm whales go

834
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:58.519
down and they're fighting.

835
00:43:59.840 --> 00:43:59.920
You.

836
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.960
They're eating squid and big squid, I mean colossals.

837
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.400
And giant clossals and giants right uh.

838
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:06.679
And they you know, they come up with scars to

839
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.400
prove and sperm whales don't no pushover and other big animals.

840
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:16.079
Then their their cousin, which is encryptid is Leviatin, not

841
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.480
Leviathan Leviatin, which was a cousin of the sperm whale

842
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:20.920
that is extinct quote unquote.

843
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:21.960
Uh.

844
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.719
That was so sperm wheles have tiny, tiny dorsal fins

845
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:27.840
towards the back of their tail. Le Viatin was a

846
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.440
toothed sperm whale. So sperm whale's you look at their jaws,

847
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.840
they pretty much just have teeth visible on the bottom jawl.

848
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:37.079
They have really narrow thin jawls because they're hunting animals

849
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.119
like squid, soft body animals that are wriggly, So you

850
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.559
have these big sharp teeth and these narrow jawls to

851
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.079
grab them and just hold and just you know, they're

852
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.239
not fighting animals that they got to really rip into.

853
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:50.679
You know. The viatin was the opposite. It was a

854
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.280
cousin of the sperm whale that ate other whales and megalodonts,

855
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.719
So their favorite foods were balen whales and meglodonts. Uh.

856
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:01.559
So they kind of were competing with the meglodonn at

857
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.639
the same time because meg alowns were whale hunters. Specifically,

858
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.880
what they target was big baileen whales, the middle class

859
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.880
of baileen whales. So they both went extinct around the

860
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.840
same time, and it was around the time that orcas

861
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.679
started taking off. So they think, you know, orcas are

862
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.960
probably the nailly coffin for both those species because orcas

863
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.719
do hunt the same prey, but they do it cooperatively,

864
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:27.280
so they can really confuse a one thing, right, uh.

865
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.960
But leviatin may still be around in some areas, so

866
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.239
there's a cryptic called the high finn sperm whale. Every

867
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.960
once in a while, it's been seen since the whaling industry.

868
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.039
Whaling is still going on today. It's a horrible practice.

869
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.639
But the big fallout of the major whaling industry was

870
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:46.480
in the nineteen fifties, So from the sixteen hundreds to

871
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.519
the nineteen fifties, you know, four hundred years ish of

872
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.280
hardcore whaling. Every once in a while they'd say that

873
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:55.599
they'd see a high fin sperm whale. So what that

874
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.199
is a sperm whale that had an orca fin would

875
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.159
be always by itself. It was always ten times more aggressive,

876
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.559
and they always had trouble killing them that most most

877
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.199
whalers wouldn't even mess with them because they just they

878
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:10.880
were they were they were one of the few whales

879
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.239
that would turn back around and fight.

880
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:14.159
Yeah, like Moby Deck.

881
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.320
Yeah, which Moby Deck is was not to lose. What

882
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.000
was the name of that ship, the one that whale

883
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:26.639
actually sunk in the Pacific and all the was it

884
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.000
the ss Ulysses or something.

885
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.000
Like that, something like that, right, But but could that

886
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:32.639
have been a hyphen sperm whale?

887
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:33.079
Probably?

888
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.239
I mean it was a whale they were stabbing, so.

889
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.239
Yeah, so obviously it's going to fight back. But I wonder,

890
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:39.639
you know, one of.

891
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.480
The things they think with that case was the nail.

892
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.960
So one of the tracking boats that they had cut

893
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.639
the lead, they started nailing tarp and a couple of

894
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.440
people now have remade that sound. It's very similar to

895
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.880
bull bileen whales. Our bull sperm whale's aggression calls for

896
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:02.119
other males. So they think that that there's a chance

897
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.440
that when the whale was attacked, because it was the

898
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.519
biggest whale the crew had ever seen. Yeah, and they

899
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.119
did that sound. So the whale maybe took the attack

900
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.320
as a territorial attack and not a predatory attack. So

901
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.320
he turned around because he pretty much just rammed his

902
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.000
head through the bottom of the ship. Yeah, I mean

903
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.880
just took it out. Uh. Wales would have figured out

904
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.880
how easy it was. They had done it a lot,

905
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.760
a lot sooner. I mean, there's we burnt enough whales

906
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.719
that on the Antarctic ice sheet it looks like a

907
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:34.000
volcano erupted. We burnt so many whales. I want to

908
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.679
say that again that geologists and uh glaciologist when they

909
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.239
DoD ice cores, you can see it in the ice

910
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.880
core and Antarctica whale burn it looks like a volcanic eruption.

911
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:46.639
Right.

912
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.639
Uh No, so hyphens berm wheels, Yeah, that's a cryptid

913
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:55.639
maybe it that's awesome. I'm a rambler.

914
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.280
No, I mean I love this stuff, man, So I Uh.

915
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.039
But so the one question that I always ask folks

916
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:08.000
just to shift gears, just to touch not not a

917
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:11.639
big gear shift, but a little one is my.

918
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:13.280
So I always ask people.

919
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:17.760
I call it their gateway drug to this high strangeness world.

920
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:23.119
And uh, mine is bigfoot. Oh right, And I had

921
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.960
an experience when I was young and that just like

922
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.280
set the nail in the coffin. But I also say

923
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.519
on the wider range is like Norris mythology. I was

924
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.519
just obsessed with it when I was a kid.

925
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:35.000
Right.

926
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.960
But anyway, and that's where you get some of these

927
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.800
ideas anyway, I mean like, but so I'm the one

928
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.519
question I always ask is what is your gateway to

929
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.960
this world of high strangeness?

930
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:50.639
Lake and sea monsters?

931
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:52.519
Lake and sea monster.

932
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.239
And I was a little kid, I was, I was

933
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.079
still obsessed. I tried to hunt the South Bay Bessie here.

934
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.480
I had a great white shark cook and I put

935
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.159
a whole chicken on it and I attached it with

936
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.440
steel cable. Uh yeah, I tried. I tried to hunt

937
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.679
lakes South Bay, Bassie, Lake Eries, Lake Monster, at least

938
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.320
on our side of the lake, because it's called the

939
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:17.280
Lake Erie Chomper across in Canada. No sea monsters, lake monsters,

940
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.480
river monsters. Ohio horned serpents I've been obsessed with since

941
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.559
I was young and I heard about them, which I

942
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:26.480
could talk about that for a second, because there's not

943
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:30.800
a lot on them. I've probably done the most on them,

944
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:37.480
that is out horned serpents. Okay, there's lake it's so weird.

945
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.199
So they were so commonplace that nobody cared.

946
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.960
Right, it was just a normal part of the landscape.

947
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:50.119
Yeah, what people don't understand is alligators are native to Ohio.

948
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.440
Before we dammed up the Ohio River and killed them

949
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.880
all in the eighteen hundreds, alligators were in Ohio. They

950
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:58.280
were in the Ohio River all the way up through

951
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.800
Ohio and in Pennsylvania. Yeah, so they weren't super common,

952
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:05.840
but it was not unheard of for an alligator to

953
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.519
naturally swim up the other So what most time it

954
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.920
would be what we called retiring adults to where that

955
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.199
they would They weren't because they really couldn't breed here

956
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.519
in Ohio very effectively. But the adults, the old ones,

957
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.199
the old timers would come up the Ohio River were

958
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.639
easier prey in less competition, so the retiring group of

959
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.280
alligators would come all the way upo So Ohio horn

960
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.199
serpents were talked about like that in the seventeen eighteen

961
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.960
hundreds from the shipping lanes. So we had a couple

962
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.840
captain's journals that say, seen three Ohio horned serpents near

963
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.719
Cincinnati today, stop traffic for an hour, wouldn't get out

964
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:44.719
of the way, and they would talk about this. So

965
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.840
these guys were about eighty feet long. They had three

966
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.639
bumps on their head where the horns come from. They

967
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.599
weren't like rhino horns. Most people would draw them would

968
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.559
be like almost like a big snaker and eel with

969
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.639
these almost knots on their head.

970
00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:58.360
Wow.

971
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.840
And they would swim across the and they'd play in

972
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.719
the river, and people would stop traffic for them, because

973
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.800
what they would talk about in these journals is they

974
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.039
were not a violent or dangerous creature if you did

975
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.000
not mess with them, if you just if the ships

976
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.000
would stop and let them pass. The only ones that

977
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.280
wouldn't stop would be the barges because they don't stop

978
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.960
for anything, so they just presume that they'd get out

979
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:25.719
of the way. The second Ohio and Pennsylvania and West

980
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.559
Virginia started doing open coal mining and industrialization. They all

981
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.480
disappeared overnight because if anybody don't know, the Ohio River

982
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.280
is extremely radioactive now because coal mining, because there's a

983
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.119
lot of radio materials. It's called seat ponds. If you

984
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.320
drive down the Ohio River, you see these little ponds

985
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.639
next to these coal plants, their seat ponds, sludge ponds.

986
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:49.360
That's where they dump all the radioactive crap from coal

987
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.039
and then every time it rains, it goes to the

988
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:56.800
Ohio River. So overnight these animals disappeared. So they went

989
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.000
from everyday occurrences to nobody's ever heard of them.

990
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:00.719
Wow.

991
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.639
And it's so when we see animals specifically sensitive species,

992
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.360
I mean that's they're called indicator species. When they leave

993
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.239
the environment, they disappear. So Serpent's Mound is only about

994
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.079
thirty miles from there, So everybody's always trying to guess

995
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.199
what Serpent's Mound is and all this stuff. To me,

996
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:24.119
it's a horned serpent, okay, And literally it's thirty miles

997
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.920
from where these things were commonplace. It's a giant serpent

998
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.360
that they say has fins on its head or antlers.

999
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.159
And I just look at it as horns. Yeah, thirty

1000
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.400
miles away, they had giant horn serpents swimming everywhere.

1001
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.800
Everywhere, like like you said, commonplace, like it was just

1002
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:42.719
like another thing.

1003
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:48.480
And then they haven't really been seen since. So eels,

1004
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.400
I think they're probably species of giant eel, and that's

1005
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.559
a whole that's a whole thing. But so eels are androgynous.

1006
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:02.960
All all true eels in the North America, South America, Europe,

1007
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.360
and Africa breed and what's called the Sargasso Sea in

1008
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:08.719
the middle of the Atlantic. So I want to say

1009
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.800
that again. The eel in Minnesota swims all the way

1010
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.559
down the Mississippi River, through the Gulf into the Atlantic

1011
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:18.280
to breeding in the middle of the ocean called the

1012
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.719
Sargasso Sea. The ill in Europe does the same thing.

1013
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.199
The eel in the Amazon does the same thing. The

1014
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.920
eel in Africa, the congo, does the same things. We

1015
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:33.119
have never ever seen an eel breed. We've never seen

1016
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.199
him give birth, we never see him lay eggs. All

1017
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:40.719
we know adult eels go there and baby eels come out.

1018
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:43.880
For all we know, it's a portal. Because you can't

1019
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.760
dive in the Sargasso Sea. You may know it, but

1020
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.519
for listeners at home, this Sargasa Sea is like a

1021
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:52.400
turning point. It's full of every bit of garbage in

1022
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.960
the ocean, and it's killed a lot of divers because

1023
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.239
it get tangled and stuff, and you can't come out right,

1024
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.159
right right, you're down there. So we've never there's no

1025
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.719
manned there's no unmanned subs that have really gone through

1026
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.360
and investigated because it's so difficult. So I think that

1027
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.360
there was. So eels follow what's called the rule of

1028
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:14.559
one sixty. They have a stage in their life cycle

1029
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.960
called a glass eel, which is a little transparent larvae.

1030
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.599
Every species except one, which may not be an exception,

1031
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:27.960
follows the rule of one sixty. That larva stage is

1032
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.840
one sixtieth of the adult size. And I'm saying true

1033
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:33.639
species of Eelscare's a lot of animals we call eels

1034
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.000
in ourn't eels like electric gills, aren't ill that kind

1035
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:40.320
of stuff. Except one we found in the nineteen hundreds.

1036
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:43.199
We found two glass eels. So keep mind, I said

1037
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.039
the glass eels one sixty at the adult size. We

1038
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:49.840
found two glass eels that were each six feet long.

1039
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.559
So a bunch of violotis said that has to be

1040
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.719
the exception, right, that's the exception. They just may be

1041
00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:00.000
a little bigger than their glass stage. I am the opposite.

1042
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.559
I say, they probably follow the same rule. And we

1043
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:07.199
caught two larvals of what these this world of sea serpents,

1044
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.840
these giant eels that go into So they'll be eight

1045
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:15.920
foot American eels in a mountain stream in West Virginia

1046
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.920
that bred in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, and

1047
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.079
they'll spend their whole life as they're small, getting back

1048
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:24.199
up there. And they they have such slow metabolisms, and

1049
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.199
they'll live up there for eighty years before they go

1050
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.480
back and breed. I think that's what's happening. So that's

1051
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:33.719
what we're sharing, a global of almost species of eel.

1052
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.840
That's our sea serpent, that's our lake monster, that's our

1053
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.599
you know, the Ohio horned serpents. So conger eels are

1054
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:41.920
the biggest fresh androgenous eel right now, and they have

1055
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.480
bumps on their head. So just make them eighty foot long,

1056
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.000
make them one hundred foot long. So yeah, that's I

1057
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:53.239
mean that. That idea got me into it long time ago.

1058
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.519
There's a book I have in my collection I got

1059
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.000
when I was like ten, the a ten year old

1060
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.719
shouldn't be reading. I think it's called eel eels, eels, right,

1061
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:07.280
and it's just a biologist writing about eels. And it's

1062
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:11.679
about about that thick, right, it's about four inches thick

1063
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:13.519
if you hit somebody with it. Did suck.

1064
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.719
All on eels, all on eels, just.

1065
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:19.920
Just eels and actually only three species of like four

1066
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:20.559
hundred eels.

1067
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:23.239
Uh you know?

1068
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.760
So yeah, that's what that was my gateway drug. So

1069
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.559
that happened, and it's the more I did it. And

1070
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:35.719
then even when I started working as a biologist, there's

1071
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.400
this idea that biolists don't believe in Bigfoot. And that's untrue,

1072
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.159
as extremely untrue. It's not saying it's every biolog just

1073
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:43.960
believes in Bigfoot, but it's definitely much more of a

1074
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.400
split topic people that work. So I worked with people

1075
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:50.000
that worked with endangered species. That's all we did, Like,

1076
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.639
that's their whole career was endangered and extinct species. Yeah,

1077
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.039
and they were split on the subject, like you. I

1078
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.280
didn't encountered when I was young, and so I know

1079
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.079
Bigfoot exists. I don't know what bigfoot is. I know Bigfoot.

1080
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:10.199
Exists something's there, right, But biologi.

1081
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.679
Are really really split on it. We've talked about the

1082
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.239
peer review process too. People don't understand how peer review

1083
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:21.559
works and how it's not science. It's actually nonsense. Yeah,

1084
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.880
do you know how peer review works personally.

1085
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:28.800
To an extent, you know, but but not it's cursory.

1086
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.159
Yeah, so your listeners at home so they know. It's

1087
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:39.320
very simple. Excuse me, sorry, guys, it's very simple. A

1088
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:44.159
scientist at a lab works. He does not get a pick,

1089
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.239
so he can do whatever projects he wants on his

1090
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:51.440
so his lab time. The administrator that does not have

1091
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.840
a scientific degree, has no background in science. The administrator

1092
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.400
of that college or university or or project group will

1093
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:06.039
either assign him a study or will select what studies

1094
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.639
can even be in the process of peer review. So

1095
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:12.360
just because this scientist maybe wants to do bigfoot research

1096
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.320
or once do anything in the paranormal doesn't matter. They

1097
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:18.519
have to do x y Z because an administrator told him.

1098
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:20.320
If do x y Z, they want to keep their

1099
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.519
lab hours. So for a paper to get to the

1100
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.360
peer review process means nothing. It means two administrators. So

1101
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:29.800
on the other end, if you want to do so

1102
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.960
peer review is only but done by other scientists, right,

1103
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.639
but their administrator has to agree that they're allowed to

1104
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:40.400
peer reviewed it. So you have to have two administrators.

1105
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:44.119
They have no scientific background. One has to pick the

1106
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.599
study for the scientists. The one has to agree that

1107
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.719
their scientists will peer review it. So it's all it's

1108
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.840
all just HR, it's all just administrators. It's all public.

1109
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.639
Relations or and or agenda driven.

1110
00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:00.239
Agenda. Yeah, has nothing to do with science, as apply,

1111
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.320
nothing to do with science or the science in the paper.

1112
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.760
So the peer review study process is the dumbest thing

1113
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.119
that it. The average person does not understand because the

1114
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:12.559
media we have painted that oh, if it's peer reviewed,

1115
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.639
it's you know, it's popular. It's right, it's good. They

1116
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.320
won't even let anything else come pre review. It doesn't

1117
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.039
have to be controversial stuff. We did a couple of

1118
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.920
examples when we talked about it, that it was oh,

1119
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:31.400
cancer sells like cancer sell replication studies. That this college.

1120
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.800
The scientist had spent a lot of time working on

1121
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:35.719
this project, a lot a lot of time, you know,

1122
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:40.199
trying to for the betterment of humanity. His administrator didn't

1123
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:41.800
want the college to be known as the cancer college,

1124
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:45.440
so shut it down ten years of his life.

1125
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:47.039
That's insane.

1126
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.719
So there's there's a paper out there about cancer sell

1127
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.960
something with that that a guy, a highly accredited scientist,

1128
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:59.920
spent ten years of his life devoted to that. His adamant.

1129
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:01.679
But we don't want to we don't want to be

1130
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.800
the cancer college. That's it. That's the end of the

1131
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.039
process for that guy. It does not matter about the quality,

1132
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:13.239
the time, the experiences, the experiments. It has zero to

1133
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.360
do with that. It's all two admins have to agree

1134
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.239
that they it looks okay for their college's reputations.

1135
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.360
So it's crazy though that you actually have scientists that

1136
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:27.039
that say peer reviewed work is the gold standard, right

1137
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:28.960
and lose.

1138
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:32.440
Their job, right, So what a farce?

1139
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:36.000
Yeah, it not saying peer review is bad as far

1140
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.360
as if the study is peer review. All it means

1141
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.960
for everybody at home is that two administrators with no

1142
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:48.239
scientific background agreed that this study looks okay for their college.

1143
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:49.400
Right.

1144
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.920
So the two sciences have nothing to do with it.

1145
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.000
You know, once they're done and they publish their study

1146
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.519
or whatever, they might even get their study published.

1147
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.280
Right, And like you said, some you know, that doesn't

1148
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.480
mean studies are bad. It just means studies that have

1149
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:03.840
been peer reviewed or bad.

1150
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.880
It's just that you know, but unpeer reviewed studies are

1151
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:08.400
good too.

1152
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:09.719
Yeah, exactly.

1153
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:12.199
Look at the credits of the person, look at you know,

1154
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.000
look into the person that's doing or the team.

1155
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:15.079
Uh.

1156
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.719
There's you know, several great research organizations out there right

1157
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.239
now that they have They got the company I used

1158
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:24.079
to work for. They self published studies all the time,

1159
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:27.400
great work. I trust all those scientists that did the work,

1160
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.119
they never get peer reviewed because they didn't like the company.

1161
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.679
Yeah, right, so they're just.

1162
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.079
Gonna sit there limbo forever. But the information's out there.

1163
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:43.039
Yeah, wow, crazy. I mean it opens up a lot

1164
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:48.760
of cans. When you're talking about you know, cryptids, bigfoots,

1165
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.199
I mean even mammoths and things like that. It's like,

1166
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.760
what what do we actually have evidence for?

1167
01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:56.440
Right?

1168
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:02.880
And whether it's DNA or it's you know, more anecdotal.

1169
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.400
Type stuff or you know, you know what I'm saying.

1170
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.320
And it's like, I'm sure there's papers written all the

1171
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.199
time that just get you know.

1172
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.760
They limbo, They just limbo, and then a lot of

1173
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.760
them go behind paywalls. Also the university will hide them

1174
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.280
behind paywalls. So you can't see the studies, especially, they

1175
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:26.239
do not like them. Some of the big questions about sasquatch.

1176
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:27.199
Uh.

1177
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.920
I mean we love I love talking about Bigfoot, but

1178
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.639
I mean we're on high Bigfoot Jamboree. We'll see you

1179
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:39.480
out there, yeah, October fourth, So Bigfoot, DNA, the hair

1180
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.840
collection I did E DNA. I did that for a

1181
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.639
big part of my job. E DNA is probably the

1182
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.440
most misused thing in the bigfoot community or cryptid paranormal

1183
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.880
community right now period. There are tons of people that

1184
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:59.920
just don't understand it. There are tons of people misuse

1185
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.320
it or misusing the terminology.

1186
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:02.880
Right.

1187
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:05.679
I felt really bad. We were speakers at a festival.

1188
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.679
I felt really bad because I didn't watch the guy

1189
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.119
go on before us, and I don't know if he

1190
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.800
was personally lied to about d and A, but he

1191
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:16.599
had a chunk of DNA and his talk that was

1192
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.880
like fifteen minutes and it was completely wrong. And we

1193
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:23.480
had gone on right after him, and I had no idea.

1194
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.559
I had no idea, right, but the audience was like

1195
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:31.639
really into asking me questions about the DNA. Oh, no idea,

1196
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:34.920
but he had it in his presentation. And then finally

1197
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.119
at the end. The lady's like, what's like the complete

1198
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.880
opposite the guy before you?

1199
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.039
Oh, you just blew it up.

1200
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:44.000
All right, Well you're my accreditations. You can call where

1201
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.840
I worked for. I did it for a living, But

1202
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.320
what do I know? No, So DNA it is in

1203
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:56.840
its empasy. It does not work extremely well yet, and

1204
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.159
people act like it is the end all be all

1205
01:03:59.239 --> 01:03:59.920
right now.

1206
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.159
Yeah, Well it's because it gives them what they want.

1207
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:03.880
It's confirmation bias.

1208
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.039
Right, So how it works is it's environmental DNA for

1209
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.440
everybody at home, is we take water, soil, air samples.

1210
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:13.480
Water's the best holds DDA fragments and spreads over a

1211
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.599
big area. So like if we did it in the

1212
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.320
Ohio River, you get you can get e DNA fragments

1213
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:23.119
from every species of a plant, animal and other in

1214
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:28.079
that river shed watershed because everything that's shedding cells and going,

1215
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:31.119
you know, it's it's very it can pull very very

1216
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.880
very tiny DNA fragments. So after you do this, it's

1217
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:39.519
a hard process. You can only do like three maybe

1218
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.159
four samples a day because you have to get up early.

1219
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:44.840
You have to do it when it's daylight. You can't

1220
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.320
do it in the dark because of footed cynthusis you

1221
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:49.199
have to do it during the day, but you have

1222
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:53.199
to get it to the lab filtered by two pm

1223
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.039
because the lab has to do their part after you

1224
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:58.480
filter the sample, so it's only good for a couple

1225
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:03.559
of hours. Like the nasty EDNA survey was a joke, right,

1226
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.960
they did eighty five samples in one afternoon. It's impossible.

1227
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.360
It was one guy did it. It's impossible. What he

1228
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:10.840
did is he went down to the dock and collected

1229
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.119
all the water from one spot, so the e DNA

1230
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.760
sample for lock nests whatever. Four or five years ago.

1231
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.599
They didn't get any river otter samples. And in the

1232
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:21.199
picture of the guy to take in the samples, you

1233
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:25.119
could see a river otter, right, So they didn't get

1234
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.119
any samples, and he can he's physically you can see

1235
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.280
the animal. No, so they did it wrong. So it's

1236
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.079
only as good as its database as well. So you

1237
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.440
take all these samples and you put him into What

1238
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.440
the computer basically does is it compares him to a

1239
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:44.199
database of known samples. Your database varies heavily, so if

1240
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.920
you use a database, so let's say you did you

1241
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:48.840
took a sample here in the Cider River or the

1242
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.119
Ohio River. And you just did it with the database

1243
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.840
that only has Ohio native species. You're gonna get tons

1244
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.800
of unknown hits. Right, what do we have in zoos

1245
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:00.880
and stuff like that. You're close enough, you're gonna have

1246
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:05.679
lion DNA, not because they're not there, but what it

1247
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:09.440
will come back as is unknown species, right, Not that

1248
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:12.440
it's unknown everywhere, it's just the database, the comparison database

1249
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.760
you used is unknown. So all these DNA. That's some

1250
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.840
of the TV shows for people at home, and they

1251
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:22.840
do this samples and it says unknown species. Doesn't mean

1252
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:28.320
it's bigfoot. It's all about the database they're using. Not bigfoot.

1253
01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:29.639
I'm believing big foot. I've seen one.

1254
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:30.519
Uh.

1255
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.239
But you know, TV is a thing you got to

1256
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.800
kind of watch, you know, educate yourself. The other side

1257
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.320
of it is when you watch people so yeah, I

1258
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:46.320
hate it every time. And Jay and everybody collect hair yea,

1259
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.199
and they're like face like there are two inches from it,

1260
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.920
breathing on it. Yeah, gloved hands and they pick it up,

1261
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.840
put it in. Just burn that sample, right, you've contaminated

1262
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:57.679
it to out. You know, when we would have two

1263
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.199
sets of gloves, we'd have a set of gloves of

1264
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:01.719
a sterial bag that we'd have to open with a

1265
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.880
set of gloves, right, and we'd have to wear a

1266
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:10.000
face mask and all anyways, you can like primate or

1267
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.000
human or you know, half human geno and all that. Yeah,

1268
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:14.400
you breathed on it, you know.

1269
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.719
Right, or yeah, anything your spit, your spit landed on it, right,

1270
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:20.880
it's you.

1271
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.960
Or it's and then it'll come back, uh, contaminated. So

1272
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:26.880
if it's too close to human, a lot of systems

1273
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.159
will actually just kick it out as contaminated. So you

1274
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:31.880
have to really be looking at what you're doing. And

1275
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.000
bigfoot DNA samples do not matter until you have a

1276
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:39.440
comparative sample. So for all these people at home, sorry,

1277
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:42.760
bigfoot DNA does not matter until there's a dead one

1278
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.360
on a slab that you can be like and then

1279
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:49.119
you and you can retroactively test all those hair samples. Well,

1280
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.920
the best thing you're gonna get is unknown species. That's

1281
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.840
the best. I mean, that's the best, you know, And

1282
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.639
there's all the reasons it could come out. Uh so

1283
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.800
e DNA is a big one. Yeah, I mean this

1284
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.360
science find the sasquatches to talk. We do a lot

1285
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:06.519
like another big one. Where's all the bones? Right, and

1286
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.320
we talk about Allen Mnty Island, which is in Alaska,

1287
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.920
has the highest grizzly bear population in the world. It

1288
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.639
has about thirty five thousand grizzly bears on this little

1289
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.479
island is about four square miles. That's a lot of

1290
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:19.199
grizzly bears.

1291
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:20.640
Lot. Uh.

1292
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:23.520
Three percent of the population dies every year, three to

1293
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.600
ten percent depending on how bad the year is because

1294
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:27.439
their birth rates and stuff like that. So it's it

1295
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:30.880
evens out. So if you have thirty five thousand bears

1296
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:34.239
and ten percent dies, as thirty five one hundred grizzly

1297
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.880
bears are dying a year on this island. The head

1298
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.399
biologists it was there, he'd been there for twenty two years.

1299
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:43.199
He only ever found two dead grizzly bears that he

1300
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.640
didn't much get killed. H and so the one had

1301
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:47.680
a radio collar on it too.

1302
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:56.399
That's that like kind of blows your mind a little bit, right, Like, Oh.

1303
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:59.079
The University of Washington did studies. The average time for

1304
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:03.479
an elk to be or unidentifiable from the carcass is

1305
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:08.239
six days. So you have six days you know it.

1306
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:10.239
Depending where you are, you have six days to walk

1307
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:14.159
up on a big Foot corpse. Yeah, it's unidentifiable. I mean,

1308
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:15.600
how many times the people just think, oh, that's a

1309
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.199
weird bone, that's, you know, a junk, and then there's

1310
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.199
not nearly as many of them. I'm a big believer

1311
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:25.199
that our population on the North American continent is around

1312
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.560
fifteen to twenty thousand animals or beings, depending on how

1313
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:31.159
you view it, like we're animals, but you know, so

1314
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:34.880
twenty I'm going to guess around fifteen to twenty five

1315
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:36.920
thousand somewhere in there. So twenty is a good number.

1316
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.760
That's the North American continent. Everybody not so like Ohio

1317
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:42.720
may have four hundred of them or three hundred of them.

1318
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.199
You know, North Carolina may have two thousand of them.

1319
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.359
You know, the Yukon may have fifty, you know, ten

1320
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:53.479
thousand of though. You know, so they're spread out, highly migratory.

1321
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.960
They do not migrate because the cold. I've had emails

1322
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.399
about that. Well, Bigfoot's not scared of the cold. Animals

1323
01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.119
don't migrate fully because MAM's didn't migritc as the cold.

1324
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:04.439
They are built for it. They followed the food, right,

1325
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:08.600
you know, they Bigfoot follows probably the spring fall.

1326
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:12.199
Yeah, because I live in an area that gets freaking cold,

1327
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:15.600
and we get a lot of snow right in upstate

1328
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:20.159
New York. And we had the theory from our research

1329
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.840
area that maybe they would leave in the winter and

1330
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.319
like head south right at least to get whatever. But

1331
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.479
it turns out that it's probably not the case, because

1332
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:37.960
we've got instances where where we're dealing with evidence that

1333
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.239
they're here in the winter, especially around my buddy's house

1334
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:45.119
where we do this research and cold.

1335
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.479
It's more I'm a firm believer. It's definitely more food

1336
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:52.520
and resource driven. I think they act much more like

1337
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:58.880
nomadic humans or gorillas with having a humongous territory and

1338
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.640
maybe four miniature territories inside.

1339
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:02.199
Yeah.

1340
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:04.239
Yeah, we're a quarter of the year we're here, so

1341
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.600
they don't exhaust resources. A lot of animals do that, right.

1342
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.600
Well, I just talked to I can't remember the name

1343
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:13.039
of the there was Sirens of something, Sirens of the Supernatural,

1344
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.359
but he was talking about the wood Bugger, which is

1345
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.000
just kind of like the the you know, one of

1346
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:22.199
the southern the Blue Ridge Mountain version, right, And he

1347
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.479
was talking about the park rangers that he knew and

1348
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.600
had conversations with is in the winter, he goes, well,

1349
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.079
this time of year, you got to go to the

1350
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:34.359
other side of the ridge because that's where they're at,

1351
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:35.680
It's where the food's at.

1352
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:37.960
And then during the summer they'll come back over to

1353
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.399
the other side of the ridge.

1354
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.600
Right, just like just like elk, just like bears, just

1355
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.239
like wolves, just like.

1356
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:49.199
Everything'd be like us. Yeah, absolutely, we're in our nomadic stage.

1357
01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:51.279
That's what we did. We followed the food. It wasn't

1358
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:57.399
the cold in shelter. And then we've even think we've

1359
01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:03.159
identified a couple well I believe are breeding areas, which well,

1360
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:06.319
how we how we kind of determine that personally, is

1361
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:11.479
we look at behaviors. Right, So there's an area, a

1362
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.439
couple of areas in the US where there's very very

1363
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:21.159
very terrifying big foot encounters that nobody ever gets hurt in. Yeah,

1364
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:23.640
and they're constantly the same, you know, the tree shakes,

1365
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:26.039
the bluff chargers, the rocks, you know, being flung past

1366
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:28.920
my head, you know, and then they'll follow you all

1367
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:30.560
with that car I'll fall away to the campground. So

1368
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.840
what we kind of think is and it's seasonal, it's

1369
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:36.319
very seasonal, and we think it may be where they're

1370
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.920
either giving birth or spending a couple of months after

1371
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:44.279
a berth to rear up. So depending on which ape

1372
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.680
you look at. Humans, you know, we have extremely long

1373
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:51.720
quote unquote baby stages. For sure, we're born very our

1374
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.840
brains were born very large. Our brains are born very big,

1375
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:56.840
so our heads have to be collapsible to come out.

1376
01:12:57.560 --> 01:12:59.520
Uh So we have there's a lot, a lot of

1377
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.159
big learning curve. When you look at more simple or

1378
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.680
more simple primates, you know, their heads don't do that.

1379
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:09.039
They come out and they little speech to the monkey

1380
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.520
or a lemur. You know, they're good after two three

1381
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.560
days running around. Gorillas have to be carried for a

1382
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:17.680
couple months. Yep, So that's kind of what I look at.

1383
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:20.039
You know, gorilla's have about two month period where of

1384
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:24.279
a really intensive baby care where the baby can start

1385
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:26.279
hanging on or sitting in a nest or you know,

1386
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.399
I think there may be that stage. So if anybody

1387
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.560
didn't know the Ohio Grassman, how that kind of got started.

1388
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.279
It got coined either Monster Quests or something like that.

1389
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.600
It's not a real Ohio name for bigfoot, but now

1390
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:44.560
it is so in Hocking, which is where the baby

1391
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.000
site is. In my opinion, there is these woven tunnels

1392
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.119
in some of the grass hills. So you see on

1393
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:53.199
TV the big brown nest, and that's what they say.

1394
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:57.880
That's not what they ever look like until TV before that.

1395
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:01.399
They look like these big woven tunnels or they're big,

1396
01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:03.279
but they're you know, you can't see them from the outside.

1397
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:06.640
We've actually been in one and you get into them

1398
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:08.239
and you could sit in this tunnel of me, a

1399
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:12.640
three hundred pounds adult man can sit in this tunnel comfortably.

1400
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:15.960
And my buddy was, you know, fifteen feet from me

1401
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.720
looking at me and couldn't see me or hear me

1402
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.560
or nothing. Yeah, So I think there are these areas

1403
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:25.039
where they're high abundance of food there. So anybody don't

1404
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:28.479
know hockey hills, there's tons and tons of ravines, valleys, ditches, canyons.

1405
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.359
There's all these areas that humans, even though it's a

1406
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:35.359
high trafficked area, can't get to very easily, and even

1407
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:37.880
when they do, they hide their baby. So I think

1408
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:39.960
that maybe that's where they're spending their first couple of months.

1409
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:41.840
Just yeah, right, which makes sense.

1410
01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.760
Yeah, because they're bigfoot here in northwest Ohio where I live,

1411
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.720
but we are corn, so in the spring it's much

1412
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:53.000
harder to hide, it's much harder to get around and

1413
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:53.640
not be seen.

1414
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:54.479
For sure.

1415
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.640
The summer, though, we have one hundred. You know, we

1416
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.119
have tons and tons of big foot sightings in the

1417
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.720
corn or you see the heads and for us, you

1418
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.079
know how bad your corn six and a half feet tall? Yeah,

1419
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:09.199
sometimes our corns ten feet tall. Yeah, and people are

1420
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.399
seeing the heads and shoulders of creatures.

1421
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:12.359
Yeah.

1422
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:16.920
I'm originally from Illinois and that's that's I get it. Yeah,

1423
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:20.560
and I yeah, I've totally been bluff charged in Illinois.

1424
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:27.479
Also in Alaska, same same thing. But yeah, that's fascinating stuff.

1425
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:27.800
Man.

1426
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.760
That's the only bigfoot I'd be actually scared of would

1427
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:32.359
be Alaska.

1428
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:36.560
I mean, whatever it was, and it wasn't a bear,

1429
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.439
and it wasn't a moose because we had already not

1430
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:41.840
saying that we could.

1431
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:44.840
But we could see a silhouette. Yeah, and it was massive.

1432
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:50.720
It was absolutely horrendously massive, and you just feel like,

1433
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.600
you know, we have the I always say we have

1434
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:59.800
our own royal field right as a human, and you

1435
01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:05.239
can just feel things right, and this thing was massive

1436
01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.520
whatever it was, it was over ten feet tall.

1437
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.039
It was just massive.

1438
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.159
It's what the definition I like to say is. It

1439
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.039
was if you want to talk about a boreal sasquatch,

1440
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:21.560
that's what it was. And it was insanely massive. You

1441
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.399
could just feel it. Every time it moved, you could

1442
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:29.119
feel the ground. There was like vibration. It was, yeah, terrify.

1443
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:33.079
They get bigger, they get better, bigger than right from

1444
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.960
the equator. And then when I say Alaska or the Yukon,

1445
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:40.520
it's because I don't think Bigfoot it in the lower

1446
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.479
forty eight. I think they do hurt people, and I

1447
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.600
think a lot of times it's maybe provoked. I think

1448
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.520
it's very rare for that to occur, at least in

1449
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:54.199
the lower forty eight. In Alaska and the Yukon. It's hard,

1450
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:57.399
it's hard to live the calories, calories you get to

1451
01:16:57.720 --> 01:16:58.319
you know.

1452
01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:01.319
You get the one food compare right have to.

1453
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:04.800
That's where humans have eaten other humans. It's gotten hard

1454
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:07.640
enough that we're all gonna die or we're gonna have

1455
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:10.039
to eat each other. So I think Bigfoot would probably

1456
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:13.039
it depends on what time of year. You know, maybe

1457
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.720
a fall. You know, food is food at some point.

1458
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:21.439
But like even the attacks we've heard here, and we've

1459
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:23.319
you know, we've had people in the show, and we've

1460
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:25.239
had you know, we've done a lot of historical reports,

1461
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.680
Adam Bendix's Are at Home, Adam Benedict's books, Monsters in

1462
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.119
Print and Oddities in Print. He just went through the

1463
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:36.039
Library of Congress and literally pulled articles from always sixteen

1464
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:40.840
hundreds and into like the nineteen twenties is his range,

1465
01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.199
and we use it all the time because it's just

1466
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:47.279
such a good resources read. Bigfoot was shot and attack

1467
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:50.359
two people. But no, it seems like a lot of

1468
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:54.479
the violent attacks, like actual herding attacks here in the

1469
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.880
Lower forty, it have been they shot at him, or

1470
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.199
they shot at a kid, like Abe Canyon. Yeah, uh

1471
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:04.800
story of Ape Canyon. Listen to Yeah, uh, they shot

1472
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:07.319
one off a cliff, a baby because there's a there's

1473
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:10.359
six foot tall. They shot one and then they all

1474
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:11.039
hell broke loose.

1475
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.039
Well you shot hell broke loose, right, Yeah, just like

1476
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.680
it would be if everything.

1477
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.479
Yeah, there's gonna be problems. There's gonna be serious, serious

1478
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.520
problems real fast. And there's a lot of that. It

1479
01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:26.119
just seems to be a lot of that with the

1480
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.880
Bigfoot violent. I don't think agreed they were grabbing people.

1481
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:32.720
I think I mean we'd know about anything.

1482
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.119
You would have a lot more, you know, I mean

1483
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.279
we always have like missing for one one and whatnot.

1484
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:44.199
But but yeah, so right exactly, it could be so

1485
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:51.399
many things. Right, so we could literally talk all day.

1486
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:59.920
But I want you to promote, uh the.

1487
01:18:57.279 --> 01:19:00.319
Ohio Bigfoot Jamboree jamber.

1488
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:04.600
Give it a good plug, and then tell us where

1489
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:07.680
our listeners can find you. I mean we did, they

1490
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.760
started the podcast that way. But again, tell everyone where

1491
01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:12.439
they can find you.

1492
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.079
All right, So once again it's cript is the Corn podcast.

1493
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.079
You can find out any podcast catcher. Uh. You can

1494
01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:21.039
find all our information at cribscorn dot com for everything,

1495
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.880
including the jamboree. I'll talk about that in a second. Yeah,

1496
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.720
podcasts everywhere, or cribscorn dot com, cribs Corn podcast at

1497
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.159
gmail dot com for the email you want to reach

1498
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:33.880
out to us, that'd be perfect. Uh. So the jambree

1499
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.119
the hobbig Foot Jamboree is the Cribs of Corn Bigfoot

1500
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:37.800
Festival in our hometown of Ada, Ohio.

1501
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:39.000
Uh.

1502
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:41.159
We were extremely blessed last year. We had thirty five

1503
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.079
hundred people show up with three countries represented. We had

1504
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.239
amazing speakers. We had so much fun. It's an all

1505
01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:49.640
weekend kind of thing. We're still working on this year's details,

1506
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.560
but I can tell you some of the speakers, like sorry,

1507
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:59.359
uh Ron Murphy. Uh he's been on everything from Mount

1508
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.439
or not Mount once or so I'm sorry, uh Monster Quest.

1509
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.439
He's been on a lot of small Town Monsters productions.

1510
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:08.119
He's a researcher. He's probably the guy if you want

1511
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.199
to know anything about the invasion on Chestnut Ridge, the

1512
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.239
Bigfoot alien invasion. He is the guy. He spent months

1513
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:17.159
and months there doing research. He's several books. His books

1514
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.840
are really great, well thought out. What uh Ron does

1515
01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:24.359
is he sits. He'll literally go to the area for

1516
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:27.199
weeks and weeks interview, walk through the walk the path

1517
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.560
or speakers. Uh Tony Merkle, this is the first time

1518
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.039
I'm announcing this, so uh Tony Merle one of our

1519
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:39.920
speakers this year. So he's actually speaking and he hates speaking.

1520
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:41.920
So uh.

1521
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.039
We appreciate Tony. We love Tony to death. He's a

1522
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:50.000
dear friend of ours. That's uh Connor and Alex our speakers.

1523
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.000
They're from the Cincinnati Zoo. They're both high level zoologists

1524
01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:55.279
that are going to be talking about the science behind

1525
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:56.479
the sasquatch.

1526
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:57.760
Were the last year too.

1527
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.760
They were They weren't speakers, but they were. But they're

1528
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:02.479
actually taking.

1529
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:04.920
I've heard him, I've heard him speak before, though I

1530
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.079
feel like maybe through.

1531
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.199
The show and stuff like that. This is the first

1532
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:12.359
public as far as speaking experience about Bigfoot. But they're

1533
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:14.199
taking it as too high level zoologists.

1534
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:14.680
Uh.

1535
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.880
Alex actually does, which is uh, it's a husband and

1536
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:24.039
wife duo. Her specialty right now is cetacean behaviors in language.

1537
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:28.359
So they're playing that to big Foot. Uh. You know,

1538
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.680
I'm a big guy of whales, but uh, and we're speakers.

1539
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:36.199
And then I'm forgetting somebody, and I feel horrible. Who

1540
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.520
am I forgetting? It's it's what happens when I get

1541
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.800
put on the spot. Uh Ron Connor and Alex oh.

1542
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:50.399
Uh Randy from the Minnesota big Foot Homestead. He's been

1543
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.000
on him, he's been on the shows for the podcast

1544
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.079
circuit forever. As far as I know, this is like

1545
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.640
his second ever like public speaking about his property. He

1546
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.760
has much more of the super natural sasquatches on his property.

1547
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.359
He's got a lot of weird pictures and the sea

1548
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:08.720
squatchs and Doug Hijack have been to his property and

1549
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:09.359
that kind of stuff.

1550
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.039
Yeah yeah, yeah, speaking of months request.

1551
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.039
Yeah, Doug Hijack, Yeah yeah, Doug's actually been on his

1552
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.600
property many times. So Randy, you listen, he's been on

1553
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.159
our show three times. If you listen to it, it

1554
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:23.239
sounds like he's making it all up. But we've had

1555
01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:25.039
so many people that we know that have gone on

1556
01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:27.760
his property and experience the same things.

1557
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:28.359
Yeah.

1558
01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:32.479
Right, it's it's all sounds crazy, but there's people I trust,

1559
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:35.960
and I trust Randy. I'm just saying outside people.

1560
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:40.119
Well, it's always good to get, you know, other confirmation

1561
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:40.720
of course.

1562
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:41.199
Right.

1563
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:43.520
So the speakers, there's gonna be tickets available. They go

1564
01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:46.000
on sale March fifteenth. The rest of the events free,

1565
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:47.960
the vendors market, there's gonna be a kids area, there's

1566
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.880
meeting sasquatch. There's gonna be a little museum set up

1567
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.560
with everything from Bigfoot cast to local history to sighting

1568
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:58.319
boards and that kind of trucks. Huh yeah, the drugs yep.

1569
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.319
Nice. I don't know why I asked that. I love

1570
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:04.000
food trucks.

1571
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:07.520
It's better it's better than most restaurants anymore.

1572
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.760
Yeah right, I mean it's and it's like so many

1573
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:13.359
of them are just like artisans, you know, And that's

1574
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:14.439
it's really cool.

1575
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:17.520
Cooking it in a truck. It's because you love.

1576
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:21.760
Cooking and what you've what you're cooking, you've perfected it.

1577
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:24.680
Usually usually as long as the food truck has like

1578
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.640
three items, yeah right, give you like this. All we

1579
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.319
do is brisket. I'll take for it.

1580
01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.760
I'll take except your brisket. No.

1581
01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.000
So it's it's a ton of fun tickets like we

1582
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:36.760
do VIP dinners, meet and greets. We have a ton

1583
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.960
of fun like everything for bigfoot calling contests to uh,

1584
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:41.880
monster dress up dress up, I don't care if it's

1585
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:43.880
a movie monster or cryptid dress up is your favorite.

1586
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:45.840
We had some really fun ones. We had some really

1587
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:47.159
elaborate ones last year.

1588
01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:48.279
Uh.

1589
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.000
And then the monster calling contests or the bigfoot calling

1590
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.399
contest we had is because we do it in the

1591
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.279
Ada Park, they more Moral Park. You can find all

1592
01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:59.079
this information on cribs ofcorn, dot commun Hot big Foot

1593
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:03.319
jambreetab We did it and there was a visiting soccer

1594
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:07.000
team that had no idea in the other side. We

1595
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:11.920
had these giant lounge and people are filming it and

1596
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:15.239
posting it online, like what the heck is going on?

1597
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:19.439
Tons of bigfoots walking around. We have a couple of

1598
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:21.840
our own big foots you can meet, but I know

1599
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:23.720
for a fact there'll be several other big foots, Like

1600
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:27.319
I believe CT Clyde, which is the representative of the

1601
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.479
Hocking Hills Bigfoot Festival. I think he's coming this year.

1602
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:33.760
He's another friend bigfoot of ours. All the bigfoots we

1603
01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:35.159
have you for you to get your picture with all

1604
01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:38.159
that we don't do. And one more is wild Bill

1605
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.680
from Mountain Monsters. Uh, andyboy, didn't see the Mountain Master

1606
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:44.279
TV show. It is the single best TV show ever made.

1607
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:46.720
I love those guys to death. Wild Bill has become

1608
01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:48.720
a personal friend of ours. I watched them on TV

1609
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:50.760
and now ye out with them.

1610
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:52.840
Uh it's definitely entertaining.

1611
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:55.479
Now I didn't say anything about that. It is one

1612
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:59.319
hundred entertaining, Yes. And what I say about Mountain Monsters

1613
01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:03.520
is they did a great purpose for the cryptic community

1614
01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:07.319
because they pushed the envelope so far the other way. Yeah,

1615
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.520
talking like this is in the middle. Now you think

1616
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.239
about twenty years ago, you couldn't do like, we'd be nuts,

1617
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:17.840
we'd bet this. But shows like Mountain Monsters, Oh shoot,

1618
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:20.920
you know, just yelling, chasing down Stanley Gasters, fighting them

1619
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:21.920
with shotguns in the middle of.

1620
01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:25.039
The right right right, they're age.

1621
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.640
They've got one caged and trapped and you know.

1622
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.920
This giant and then Buck got possessed by the Cherokee devil. Right,

1623
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:35.800
so good, they pushed it so far in all honesty,

1624
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:38.399
they pushed the envelope so far the other way that

1625
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.960
now we can have normal conversations about this, and so

1626
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.279
they did a great But wow.

1627
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.319
For guys like us, the stigma's like gone now, Like

1628
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:49.399
people hear that, oh you do a podcast and you

1629
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:53.479
talk about sus because I do active research too, and

1630
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:57.039
people are like, wait, I don't get hardly any of

1631
01:25:57.079 --> 01:26:01.119
that anymore. I mean, I still get you, but it's

1632
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:05.600
not like it was, uh, you know, five ten years ago.

1633
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.359
My grandpa before he passed, talking about in the eighties,

1634
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:09.640
like if you came in and said to a bar

1635
01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:12.119
you've seen a big foot, they'd throw it. They beat

1636
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:12.399
you up.

1637
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.039
Yeah, they throw you out of the bar.

1638
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:17.720
Because you said you've seen a bigfoot. Yeah, and now

1639
01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:20.720
we're out here. There's there's festivals that have sixty five

1640
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:23.359
thousand people coming out and hang out just talking about

1641
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:24.159
Bigfoot all weekend.

1642
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:27.279
I mean, my wife just went to uh Woodstock, New

1643
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.279
York for a girl's weekend, and she brought me home

1644
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.279
from a regular gift shop, brought me home a pair

1645
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:37.159
of bigfoot socks. Yeah, you know, and she's like, this

1646
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:40.680
wasn't the only thing that was there, you know, especially

1647
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.600
especially in upstate New York. Here you've got the Adirondacks

1648
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:48.359
and the catskills and target rich environment, you know, so

1649
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:49.560
it's really funny.

1650
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:52.399
So yeah, wild Bill will be there. Uh he's great

1651
01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:54.920
with kids. He never talks about it, but he does

1652
01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:56.640
tons of charity work. So I always talk about it

1653
01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:59.359
because he'll never ever mention it. Right, including when we

1654
01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:03.479
had the hurric of the flooding real bad in Tennessee

1655
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.039
and Kentucky. He was up and so that was right

1656
01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:10.319
before our festival last year. Up until the day he

1657
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:13.319
got there, he was down there for like a week

1658
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.760
and a half, chainsawd and doing relief work. He literally

1659
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.920
got to the hotel still chains on the bed of

1660
01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:22.239
his truck covered in mud. He I mean he went

1661
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.319
to the last second because he didn't want to miss

1662
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.520
the festival. But he spent every you know, every bit

1663
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.359
of time, Yeah, doing something for somebody else. Uh, so

1664
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:32.800
he'll be there. He's always so much fun. Get your picture.

1665
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.520
I think he does like ten or twenty bucks a print.

1666
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:38.319
Pay the man. He's awesome, right, But we have so

1667
01:27:38.399 --> 01:27:40.760
much fun. It's just we wanted to bring one home

1668
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.479
because we do these all over the country break and

1669
01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:48.840
our town was kind of split on it because council

1670
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:50.560
half of them We're like, that's the dumbest thing I've

1671
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:52.520
ever heard of. We don't want nothing to do with it.

1672
01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:56.279
Our park is not ran by our town though, so

1673
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:57.960
the park guys are like, that's.

1674
01:27:57.800 --> 01:27:59.520
All, yeah, let's do it.

1675
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:03.279
How much what do we gotta do? And so uh

1676
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:05.239
the town some of the town hated it, some of

1677
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:07.560
the town loved it, which I love because some of

1678
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:10.079
the town hates me and some of the town loves me. Right,

1679
01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:12.680
that's all the plugs, I think I remembered everything. Tickets

1680
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:16.319
go on sale crimscorn dot com March fifteenth. There's a

1681
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:18.680
very limited number of the speaker VIP tickets and the

1682
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:20.680
VIP dinner like it's all one. If you buy a

1683
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.560
VIP ticket, you get this the Friday night meet and greet, dinner, games,

1684
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.399
and then the Saturday the speakers. Everything else is free.

1685
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.640
There's gonna be a free kids room with drawing and

1686
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:33.119
like mini speakers and like or they'll do like a

1687
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:36.159
fifteen minute talk instead of an hour talk more more

1688
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.760
aimed at families, so the kids on ye for an hour. Uh,

1689
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:41.920
there's gonna be like I said, the Track Museum, there's

1690
01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:44.039
gonna be bigfoots. There's gonna be a full scale model

1691
01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.960
of Bigfoot out there so you can see how big

1692
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.000
these guys actually get. Well it's only about eight foot,

1693
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:52.079
you know, you were in Alaska. Or they say they

1694
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:55.079
get to twelve, which is just a whole different thing.

1695
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:59.199
It's a whole different animal literally, like weight wise, and.

1696
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:03.000
I mean, but you see how big an Ohio Bigfoot

1697
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.479
is on average, right right? Uh. But yeah, it's gonna

1698
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:08.119
be so much fun and we look forward to hopefully

1699
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:09.079
seeing you out there too.

1700
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:13.199
Yeah, I will be well, I'm not gonna guarantee it,

1701
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.319
but we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it on

1702
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:20.079
later episodes of this podcast, because I've.

1703
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:22.199
Got to make sure. But I have it.

1704
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:26.359
I have it in the the first hurdle has been crossed,

1705
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:28.800
which I have it in the calendar.

1706
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:30.520
The October fourth, October fourth.

1707
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.920
I never said the Yeah, the calendar October fourth, So

1708
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:37.119
I have it in my calendar. So that's half the

1709
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:40.479
battle right there, because if it's not in the calendar,

1710
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.760
it's not real, right, Yeah, I get it.

1711
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.479
I do the same thing. But yeah, I think that's

1712
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:48.039
all the plugs. Like I said, I'm bad about this.

1713
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:48.920
I wish Jay was here.

1714
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:53.840
Well either way, justin amazing. Thanks for joining us today

1715
01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:58.680
and we need to do it again. You can come next,

1716
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:05.520
Oh sure, whenever, whenever you want. So, all right, man,

1717
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.840
I totally appreciate it, and uh I will talk to

1718
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:10.640
you again soon.

1719
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:12.239
Sounds good.

1720
01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:16.920
Yeah, I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared.

1721
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:19.920
Hold me hostage and they don't fight fair. Who gonna

1722
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:21.840
pray for me? And wipe on my tests?

1723
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:22.800
Who's gonna save me?

1724
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:25.760
If you're not right here? Move this darkness and make

1725
01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:28.239
my sight clear to take me your way, because I

1726
01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:30.239
don't like you. Don stop my past.

1727
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:32.399
They feel in the night here, wake me up.

1728
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.880
I'm trapped in my nightmass.

1729
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:54.920
You trapped in my nightmass, trying and trying and not

1730
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:58.800
mouth the deep in apparition SLF all my demons, all

1731
01:30:58.880 --> 01:30:59.439
my thoughts.

1732
01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:01.840
I come intries it all alone.

1733
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:07.199
I'm gonna hear me screaming manifestations on my fierce regrets.

1734
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.319
That stretched out for light years. You can almost touch

1735
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:12.319
the light. Holie is right there, party free, but tracting

1736
01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:13.159
my nightmare.

1737
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:16.960
I'm don't let me ja all the life.

1738
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:20.880
Of fade now. All my life is faith now, all

1739
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.479
my life is face and matter way. I don't let

1740
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:41.760
my life is fading. My life is fading, attracting my

1741
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:42.439
Nightmas

1742
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:17.279
Trick, Nash School