March 4, 2025

Exploring Faith Through Reason with Ed Mabrie

Exploring Faith Through Reason with Ed Mabrie
Exploring Faith Through Reason with Ed Mabrie
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Exploring Faith Through Reason with Ed Mabrie

Welcome back to Broadcasting Seeds, where we dive deep into the mysteries of the world—both seen and unseen. Today, we're joined by a fascinating guest, Ed Mabrie, the mind behind Faith By Reason. Ed is on a mission to break down Christian philosophy...

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Welcome back to Broadcasting Seeds, where we dive deep into the mysteries of the world—both seen and unseen. Today, we're joined by a fascinating guest, Ed Mabrie, the mind behind Faith By Reason. Ed is on a mission to break down Christian philosophy using logic, reason, and systematic analysis, challenging conventional religious narratives while uncovering profound spiritual truths. In this episode, we’ll explore the intersection of faith and science, the deeper meanings hidden in scripture, and how modern discoveries align with biblical perspectives. If you've ever questioned the foundations of religion or wondered how reason and belief can coexist, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Let’s get into it. Ed's Link https://faithbyreason.net/start-here/ FOLLOW US ON OUR SOCIALS 👣👻🛸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/broadcastingseeds/ FaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561713101798 X - https://x.com/BCSeedsPodcast LISTEN TO THE PODCAST Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-broadcasting-seeds-podcast/id1754460480 Spreaker - https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-broadcasting-seeds-podcast--6402290/support. Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2EUqA7cL5B4mFolSZwOsTY?si=9f693826971f49eb High Strangeness Supernatural Paranormal Podcast

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All right, we are live with Ed Maybray. How are

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you Ed?

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I'm good, how are you great?

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So tell us who you are and what you do. Sure.

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So my name is Ed Maybury. I am a podcaster,

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a researcher and a Christian truth seeker. And so what

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I've been doing for while the last over ten years,

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it doesn't make it's been that long, over ten years,

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is running a website called Faith by Reason. It's Faith

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by Reason dot net, not dot com. Dot net is

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my site. And I started doing that because of the

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journey I've been on in my life being basically raised

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in the church. My father was a minister. Well he's

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still with us, he's just not in that I could

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been minced for anymore. He's retired. My grandmother was a

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matriarch of art. So I just grew up in the

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church and unders and like most people, I just I

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took for granted that it was true. I mean, I

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still believe it's true, but there was no there was

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no challenge to it even throughout my youth because I

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either went to private Christian school or you know, I'm

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in the community. African American community is very religious per capita,

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you know, where the most church going group. So I

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never had my faith questioned, or so I didn't. I

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wasn't used to being challenged. And then, of course I

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went to college and went to a secular college like most.

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Of them are.

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And as I've said many times before i'm on other podcasts,

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my professors and my fellow students like took great delight

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in challenging me and deconstructing what I believe, and it

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forced me to get into apologetics to defend my faith.

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The journey started where I was. I started doubting things.

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I never doubted God, but I started to doubt and

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wonder about the things I was told about God because

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I couldn't answer some of those basic questions, like, you know,

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if God is good, why is her evil? You know,

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why did he flood the entire earth? That seems kind

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of genocidal? You know in the time of Noah, you

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know where Adam and Eve? Were they real people or

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was that an allegory? And why does God seemed so

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angry all the time and punishing people and braining down

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fire and brimstone. So I didn't have a lot of answers.

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You know, how was Jesus born of a version? You

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can go on or know with all the classic questions.

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So it just led me on a journey to really

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understand who God is, not what we're told about him,

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but who he actually is according to his word, and

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how that makes sense because I'm a logical thinker, I'm

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a systems thinker, and my prayer to God is I

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was going through this, you know, exploring other religions and

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things like that. I'm like, if you were real, then

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you should make sense. You know, if you created everything,

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then you also created the rules of logic and reason,

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and you should be a part of that. And you know,

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he answered that prayer. He actually he put me in

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touch with people who were also had a scientific mindset,

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and they helped me a lot too, and he brought

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me to resources that helped me on my journey. And

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the conclusion of my journey was it was two basically

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startling facts. Number one is that unlike what I was told,

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that God is unknowable, that God actually can be known

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to the degree that we're capable of knowing him, and

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more importantly, that he wants to be known, that he

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delights in being known, And which makes sense to me,

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Why would you create intelligent life, relatively intelligent life and

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not want to interact with them and not like I

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can't speak for everyone because I gunner people every day

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and I'm like, how how are you able to walk

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and not fall down? Because you don't seem very bright?

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But he wants to interact with us, And that was

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just stunning to me because, like everyone else, I grew

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up thinking that God was this angry guy on a

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cloud who couldn't wait to punish us anytime he did

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anything wrong, and that really isn't the case. So I

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started Faith bad Reason because I assumed that I was

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not the only person who had was on this journey,

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and I wanted to help my fellow Christians understand who

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God is and why our faith makes sense and why

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our faith is reasonable. Hence the title of Faith by Reason.

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So faithbout Reason dot need. You can find me there.

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I'm also on YouTube. I'm getting more active on x

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and as you know, i just started a Patreon abottom

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almost two months ago where I'm offering exclusive bonus content

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and q and as. And also if you go to

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the higher tier, there are two tiers. We go to

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the second tier, you can be a part of a

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monthly Bible Study where I take a group of people

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on a journey through the entire Bible in one year

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from the supernatural point of view. So we're looking at

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it as God's story. It's called the Jehovah Story Bible Study,

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and we look at it it's because this is God's story.

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It's not our story. It's God's story, It's Jehovah story.

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And we go at it from that standpoint, and we

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look behind the veil of what's happening in the spiritual realm,

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because honestly, if you don't look at what's happening in

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the spiritual realm, you're easily missing eighty percent of the story, right.

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I think one of the reasons why people have so

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much trouble understanding the Bible is because they think it's

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our story and it's not.

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It's history. Yeah, agreed.

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I think that's one of the most misunderstood things about folks.

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You know, about Christianity in general, is that this is

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a supernatural based story and it's not. It's you know,

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Christ's centered, God centered, whatever you want to call it.

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And and when you actually learn how to look at

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things through that lens, changes the whole game.

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Right.

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So, so one of another questions that I ask all

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to get all my guests is so my So it's

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kind of funny that the Bible right has gotten looped

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in with all the supernatural, paranormal, I strange and this stuff, right,

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but yet it fits there perfectly. Frankly in my opinion.

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People get mad at me for constantly, but so like

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my gateway and I just I always call it a

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gateway drug. My gateway drug to this world was Bigfoot.

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Okakay that, but that's just for me. You've got plenty

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of people that you know that's the same thing. But

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some people that's UFO. Some other folks it's like that too.

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Obviously yours, well, I'm not going to speak for you,

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but obviously you talk about the Bible.

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What was your gateway to to to this? I mean, like,

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because you've.

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Been on a million podcasts and and at the end

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of the day, they're all kind of the same, but

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they're all very different too.

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So what was your gateway to this whole? To the strangeness? Yeah,

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the strangeness, the high strangeness world.

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I think two books of the Bible, the two that

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I that one I finished doing a series on last year,

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and one that I'm working on now, and that's the

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books of Genesis and Revelation.

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Oh yeah, those come on, yeah, amazing.

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I'm one of those, I don't I guess you can

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call the Christian circles. I'm kind of a strange one

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in that. That's the book I gravitated towards when even

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as a kid, because no one wanted to talk about that.

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You know, everyone would talk about, you know, David and Goliath.

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They would talk about knowing the flood, they would talk

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about King Yeah, you know, yeah, King David, King Solomon,

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the Exodus, all that subsequent, and of course Jesus and

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the Disciples and you know, the Apostle, Paul and get

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all wonderful stuff. But no one spent a whole lot

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of time in Genesis or in revelationists, but especially Revelation,

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no one talked about that. So I'm like, well, what's

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going on? So I started reading it, and I'm like, oh,

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this is some weird stuff happening here. You've got these this,

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you know, these beasts with seven heads and ten horns,

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and this woman riding the beast, and then you have

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these four horsemen different colors, riding around and just slaughtering

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millions of people, and I'm like, wow, this is so

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that was kind of my gateway into the whole strangeness

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because I wanted to understand this because it just seemed

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at the time, it's this seems so much different than

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what I'm told, not that it's different than what's in

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the Bible, because you know, you go to do the

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books of Daniel and Isaiah and Ezekiel, they have some

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strange stuff happening there, but then no one talks about

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that supernatural stuff. They talk about the things that are

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just easy to digest. So that's what got me into it.

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And I say, this is part of the Bible, and

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if the Bible is true, if it's really God's word,

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then he wants us to understand this part too, And

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I just I go on the path less travel, and

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I wanted to go down that road, and so I

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became obsessed with it, and I started reading commentaries on it,

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and as I got older, I would listen to broadcasts

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of people who are really into it. Like one of

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my mentors is the late doctor Chuck Missler, who he

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did a series of what I'm showing my age here

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of of audio cassetts. Those are actually a thing. And

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I remember I remember saving.

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Up damn mixtapes. Man, yeah, I.

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Made my mixtape that I remember the getting off topic here,

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but the first time I made my mixtape with this girl,

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I had a college and I confessed all my feelings

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on it and then like had all these love songs

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and oh my god, it was a bad decition. She

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Britta just like played it for everyone, this is my heart,

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this is my heart on take for you. All my

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friends are like, oh, you are such a simp. Yeah,

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I love.

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I remember meds tapes too. Man, I'm I'm I'm fifty,

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so I get it a game. Yeah, I get I

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get it all.

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So so anyway, I saved up my money and I

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bought this the Chuck Mister Revelation Series, and I think

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it was like twenty five audio cassettes and I just

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listened to it non stop. So that was my gateway

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into it, was having him explain it and then just

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going from there and doing my own research into it.

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And then Genesis is the same way. That's why after

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I finished my Revelation series last year, sixty episodes of

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videos and podcasts, now I'm on Genesis because Genesis is

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just in some ways, Genesis is even weirder than Revelation.

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Well, there's so much duality in a lot of of it,

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and there's just it's it's I don't think we're supposed

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to maybe I think clarity is not supposed to be there.

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I think we're supposed to use our brains obviously, But

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I'll like you get into that.

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Sure, yeah, you have to inferral lot. We can talk,

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we can start talking about a bit and maybe get

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back to Revelation because I think basically what I've been

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telling people and in the Bible Study, which is again

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it's twelve it's twelve months. Obviously, it's going to be

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from from February to to next January twenty twenty six.

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So you think, you know, I'd have to squeeze like

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three or four books into every episode, which I will,

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But the first two months of the Bible Study, you're

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just going to be on Genesis, job and parts of

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the Book of Enoch. Because if Genesis is so important,

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if you really grasp what's going on in Genesis, you

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understand the rest of the Bible. The entire story of

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the Bible is in Genesis. And I say and one

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of my other friends Mentors, said the same thing. He

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says that basically the rest of the Bible is just

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commentary on Genesis. Yet that's introduction, is there, his plan

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is there, his personality, his will, the fall, redemption, the

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future are our eternity, what God wants. All that's in

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Genesis and the rest of the Bible is just all

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that playing out. And then of course Revelation is a conclusion, right.

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But no, it's it's just it's it's a great it's

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a great point is that it just puts the exclamation

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mark on the fact that this is his story and

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the study. Bottom line, I just I can't wait. I mean,

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that's the perfect segment because because you're right, they are

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very similar stories. There are. They are stories that are

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chapter one and to a degree, chapter two, is that

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stars and mountains and trees and then man. So well,

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that's well, this has to be a fairy tale. This

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cannot be true because if God did that, wouldn't he

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our in our churches, in Bible studies, and not at all,

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the actual purpose in the context of of Genesis. First

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read in the Book of Psalms, they sing them. They

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sing it, but they they sing these are these are

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considered songs. So you actually say that God spoke the

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world into existence, but he actually sang it into existence.

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of Genesis was written to an audience of ancient Israelites.

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during this time, so these are his words. So God's

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a poet, and he didn't give them a lot of

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details in the first chapter because it wasn't necessary. God

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secular humanistic atheistic paradigm is fairly recent. It's only about,

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you know, five hundred years old. Before that, everyone believed

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to be convincing and say, here's all the scientific reasons

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strong and ecatomic forces, this is the electromagnetism. Didn't need

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to He was what he And the reason it's so

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the true information, which gets to what you were just

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myths of the Greeks and the Romans, which they weren't

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around at the time. But she had the Mesopotamians, the

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Egyptian mythology. These are things that the Israelites back in

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that time, right after the exist would have been familiar with.

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about the Sumerian mythologies and Gilgamesh. They would have obviously

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heard that all these various and sundry gods created the universe,

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one within the universe. But what I'm telling you is

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that in the beginning, I you're Elohe and Jehovah I

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created the heavens and the earth. And the next thing

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and it was form was desolate and chaotic. Well, they

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knew it wasn't made that way. Why because all ancient

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cultures have stories about a primordial rebellion. You know, you

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were talking about Greek mythology. We have the other Titans,

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you know, fight against you know, Chronos and and and

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and and his pantheon, and they devastated the world. It's

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have the same story or similar story. So Jehovah didn't

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have to say, well, here's the earth became desolate because

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of this great fight. They knew the fight he's just saying.

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put down this rebellion. So he didn't go into details.

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when you're trying to understand the Bible, get because I

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get a question all the time, what Bible should I use?

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Should I use a King A version?

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So for and so on?

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King James version, not because it's without its false, but

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because we know what all the faults are. It's been

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studied so much, you know where the flaws are. Where

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some of these newer translations I'm not sure about so.

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you can look at every word and see what it

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That's is online as easy as free. But if you

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look at the Blue Letter Bible, when that in Genesis

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verse one, chapter two, I'm sorry, excuse me. Chapter one,

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verse two, it says in the earth formless, desiccat chaotic,

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and the spirit and there was darkness on the face

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of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved on

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the face of the waters. That term deep is actually

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the word taom. That word taom is. This is equivalent

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to the Samerian word Tiamat, which is a seven headed dragon. Yeah, right,

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in Judaism in Hebrew. That it also is a designation

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of Lebiathan, this great sea dragon. So you grow up saying, okay,

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darkness was on the face of the deep whatever that means. No,

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it means darkness was on the face of a of

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a child of a dragon. That was just defeated because

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a stance of victory, and it says, and you know,

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and he hovered over the face of the of the waters.

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was a rebellion and there a guy that was started

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by some type of dragon like being which was an elohem,

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and God defeated him, and he was standing over him,

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and he was brooding over the face of the chaos

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that was created. And then he did he decide to

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recreate everything. Let there be light and recreation the earth.

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the Bible is much a much richer story than we've

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probably ever been told. And secondly, it's very supernatural, and

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it mails in with all these other supernatural stories because

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all these stories are the same. Every culture has the

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story of the primordial rebellion. Every culture has a story

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of a worldwide flood. You know, all the same cultures

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in the Near Middle East or even come to the Americas,

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they all have stories of a flood. Yeah, lets you

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know that there was a flood. The details may may

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may differ, but the concept is there.

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the like, well as people do what kind of Bible

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should I read? Or which Bible should I read? And

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I am a firm belief that we need less translation

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then we need more, right because once you start translating

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it more into like new language. Yeah, you know, it's

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just more. It gets the road gets to a steer.

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onto a book that was written to at least denotatively

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written to people who lived to three four thousand, five

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thousand years ago. It's still true, but you also have

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to understand from the aspect of their culture. And if

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we try to super imposs impose our culture art and say,

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oh this is bad because it has not fit with

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our culture, well, it wasn't written to you directly. It

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was written to these people in their circumstances. So the

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audience right exactly. So my rules of context number one

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realized the Bible was not written in English. It was

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written Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. So you need to know

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that and then know the context, who was speaking, who

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is being spoken to, what was the subject matter, and

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to what degree does it apply to you? And if

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it doesn't apply to you, then, you know, then don't

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try to make it.

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So yeah, so you said blue letter Bible, right, Yeah,

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have you ever heard of logos Bible software?

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Yeah, I had it. I had some logo software on

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It's funny. I actually spent a lot of money to

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get it because it's it's it wasn't cheap when I

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bought it, but I downloaded all with my computer and

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then that computer just I lost all that, so I've

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I've just yeah, but I recommend it. I think logos is.

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When I had it, I was just wondering because it

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was it was given to me by somebody else, well,

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recommended by someone else. But you know, blue letter Bible

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sounds good too, so yeah, good again, it's a free resource.

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I definitely like using trans translation software, so you know,

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you know, because a lot of words too have multiple meanings, right,

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and that's huge.

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One case of that is is like the word love,

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for example. And another reason why you know, having everything

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in English is detrimental because our language is imprecise.

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Say, I love my wife, I love my dog, I

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love ice cream. I'm using the same word love, but

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obviously I don't love them in the same way. You know,

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I can't love my God my life white. I think

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that's illegal in most states. Yeah, for sure, I don't

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love ice cream the same way I love I love

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I did other two. But in Greek, for example, you

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have different words for love. You have filo, which is

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brotherly love, which is so I can say I fil

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a oh my best friend, or I could say I

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erros my wife. That means romantic love. I can say

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I got I got baoh God. I love God means

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00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:46.000
I got bao means you're giving yourself over completely too.

465
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:49.440
So when you say so, that's the importance of using

466
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.920
of seeing it in the very accurate languages of Hebrew

467
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.000
and Greek, because you you know, it helps you with

468
00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:59.119
when you when you're translating it to our imprecise English.

469
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:00.000
Yeah.

470
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.039
So again, it's kind of segues right into the question

471
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.440
I had talked to you about.

472
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.759
Earlier, is the seed the seed?

473
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.759
So it's kind of caused by a translation issue too,

474
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:15.359
with the difference.

475
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:19.960
Between what is it eat and eat or whatever.

476
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:25.039
It's basically with eve eating the apple right, Well, that

477
00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:27.319
word can also.

478
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.200
Mean and I can't remember. I wish I had written.

479
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.720
It down there's a connotation in that, right, yeah, right,

480
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.200
so so it's just one of those things. The serpent.

481
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.480
What is the theory called, because now it's escaping me.

482
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.359
Well, yeah, it's I forget the exact name of it,

483
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.759
because there's something that I've been asked about recently as well.

484
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.640
Probably do a Q and A on it or or

485
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.519
an episode when I get to that point in Genesis,

486
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.400
is that basically the idea is that the tree of

487
00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:58.559
knowledge of good and evil was a euphemism for the

488
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:03.440
sexual act and the serpent the Nakash had a sexual

489
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:08.519
relationship with Eve and that produced Cain, her correct first son.

490
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.440
And uh, yeah, I've heard that quite a bit. And

491
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.799
that ties into things like the pre Damnic civilization, the

492
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.759
idea that God created a bunch of humans in at

493
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.200
the end of Genesis chapter one, and then in Genius

494
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:24.720
chapter two he created Adam and Eve, so there were

495
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.759
all these people around. Then he created Adam and Eve

496
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.359
as a special group of people, uh, and put them

497
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.079
in Eden. But there were other people around, and that's

498
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.759
where Cain got his wife. And that's why when Cain

499
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.319
sinned and and God cursed him, he said, you know,

500
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.559
whoever finds me will kill me, so there must have

501
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.119
people around. And of course he was apparently the son

502
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:50.119
of the serpent of the Nakash. It's it's an interesting story,

503
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.160
and but there's some serious problems with it.

504
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:54.279
Right.

505
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.839
First of all, the if the if the tree of life,

506
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.799
if you if you look at it holistically, I'm sorry,

507
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.759
the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, and

508
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.880
in next to it was a tree of life. So

509
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:10.880
they're both congruent. They're both trees. And if one of

510
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.759
them is a youthhemism for sex, then why what is

511
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.640
the other one? What is the tree of life a

512
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.759
euphemism for And why is it that when Adam and

513
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.160
Eva casts out the garden to Cherubim, the two you know,

514
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.440
the most powerful, the highest ranking of of of the

515
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.839
of the angel of the yeloheam, we're told to guard it.

516
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.920
I don't I So I tend not to believe that

517
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.759
because and and also there's another just to you know,

518
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.799
play devil's advocate and no pun intended. A lot of

519
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:41.720
people say they know Adam and Eve. You know, it

520
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.880
says at the end of chapter two that they were

521
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.440
naked and they were unashamed. Well, in the in the Bible, elsewhere,

522
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.160
uncovering someone's nakedness, especially in the book of Leviticus, is

523
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.039
has has a sexual connotation. It says, don't uncover the

524
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.960
nakedness of your father's wife, or don't uncover your neighbor

525
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.079
wife's nakedness, And that has to do with sex. And

526
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.960
of course they were were uncovered, and they were naked.

527
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.160
So I looked into that, and I said, well, is

528
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:12.480
there something to this exactly? And and so I I

529
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.000
think I don't think so. And the reason being that

530
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.480
when it says that they were naked and unashamed, I

531
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.240
again I looked at the original language is and but

532
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.079
and that word naked there was differ different than the

533
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.359
uncovering nakedness in Leviticus. So it literally means they weren't

534
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.880
wearing clothing, right, Why would they? Why would they be

535
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.680
ashamed or not ashamed of that? Why wuld there be

536
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.880
any ashamed shame associated with They were angly people on

537
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.799
earth and they were they were husband and wife. Why

538
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.319
why would there be any shame attached to it? It

539
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:47.640
was because they because they were in a state of innocence,

540
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.279
they didn't know the connotations of sex. They had not

541
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.119
they did not, so I believe that the whole temptation

542
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.400
must have happened really soon after they were created, because

543
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:59.480
they had not had intercourse at that time, so that

544
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.000
that were ashamed if you look it up, and I'm

545
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.400
actually glad, I'm did this about a week before, about

546
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:05.880
a couple of weeks ago, so I'm prepared for this.

547
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:11.279
That word ashamed can also mean it can mean delay,

548
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.039
believe it or not. It says that for example, when

549
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.640
Moses was uh had taken the huldre up is out

550
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.839
of out of out of Egypt, and they were and

551
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.440
they were in the Exodus, and they were his on

552
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.160
Mount Sinai and they said that anyone the whole thing

553
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.079
with a golden calf. When when Moses was on the

554
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.559
mountain and they thought he wasn't going to come back down,

555
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.599
and they said, well, because Moses is delayed, let's make

556
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.960
a golden calf because he's keeping us waiting. That same

557
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:43.200
that word for delay is the exact same word were ashamed. Okay,

558
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:45.680
So it so that could also mean that they were

559
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:52.119
naked but they were delaying acting on it. But yeah, yeah,

560
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.160
And the and the other thing is that the Bible

561
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.880
was very very clear in chapter in chapter four, It

562
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.519
says Adam knew his wife, knew her sexual and she

563
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.400
conceived and bear Kane. That tied it directly to Kane,

564
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:10.240
so directly to Adam. So the Bible is not ambiguous.

565
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.839
It says that he has basically in a vernacular, Adam

566
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.000
had sex with his wife and she bore him a

567
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:21.039
son named Kane. That you know that, and so I

568
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.720
think that's pretty straightforward.

569
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.279
Yeah, it sounds it right for sure.

570
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.400
And so but back to the whole predemnic civilization and

571
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.920
the whole where to Kane get his wife? Well, there

572
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.759
is there is no preademic civilization of human beings before

573
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.000
Adam and Eve were created. And you have in order

574
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.039
to understand that, you have to understan People who say

575
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.319
that are showing that they don't have an understanding, which

576
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.799
I didn't at first. Either of Hebrew poetry, the first

577
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.640
chapter Genesis one is Hebrew poetry. Hebrew poetry is not

578
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.160
the same as our Western poetry and Hebrew poetry. You

579
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.119
have a poem or a song, and it is usually

580
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.920
followed by or preceded by a narrative that gives more detail.

581
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.880
In the end of the Book of Deuteronomy, for example,

582
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:08.640
you have the Song of Moses. The Song of Moses

583
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.039
Moses basically gives a big picture overview of what's going

584
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:16.680
to happen to the Israelites. But before that, in the

585
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.400
essen Udo Army thirty two, Doudonarmy thirty two has the

586
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:24.480
Song of Moses, but Deuteronomy the future apitions before that

587
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.440
is where God gives the blessings and curses of Israel

588
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.359
if they obey him. If you if you obey me,

589
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.160
you'll be blessed. If you disobey Me, you'll be cursed.

590
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.839
Then Adam, excuse me.

591
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:33.440
Sorry.

592
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.519
Then Moses, say has a song that he sings that

593
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.799
basically says, you guys are gonna you guys are gonna

594
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.359
screw up. Yeah, and you know, God did all these

595
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:43.279
great things for you. Guys are gonna screw up, but

596
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.920
just hold on as long as you can, but you're

597
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.079
eventually gonna screw up. That was his song, but it

598
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.680
was but it was preceded by details of what there

599
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.119
screw up would be and what the result would be.

600
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:54.400
Yeah.

601
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:56.440
Then in the Book of Luke you have the Song

602
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.799
of Mary and and as poetry that's see it by

603
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.720
the angel Gabriel visiting her and telling her that she

604
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.400
will conceive, and she will be the vessel through whom

605
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.519
Jesus will come physical body will come into the earth.

606
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.880
So facts either followed by a poem, or in some

607
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.759
cases or perceived or preceded by a poem in some cases.

608
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.480
In Genesis chapter one, that is a poem giving you

609
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.799
the big picture of all creation. Then Genesis chapter two

610
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:29.519
and Hebrew poetic in the way Hebrew literature works. The

611
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.640
chapter two is more detail because in chapter one an

612
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.720
instance saying, and God created man, male and female. He

613
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.680
made them in the image of God. He created him,

614
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.880
and you know, and then it says, okay, here's how

615
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.200
we made Adam. He formed at him from the dusts

616
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.160
of the earth, and he breathed into him a spirit.

617
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:51.079
It's just giving more detail the general poem, the general

618
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.079
part of the poem, the general information is God created humanity. Okay,

619
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.599
Now let's talk about the specifics. He formed him out

620
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.160
of the dusts of the earth. He breathed them to him,

621
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.119
to him the breath of life. Then later on he

622
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:02.839
takes a rip and he forms a woman out of

623
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:06.200
Adam's side, And it's just giving specific So there was

624
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.720
no sore, there was no Predamic civilization. So where to

625
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:14.680
Kane get his wife? Pretty simple? Actually, it was either

626
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.599
a sister or a niece, because if you do the genealogies,

627
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.000
when Cain killed Abel, they were both middle aged. They

628
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.160
were between seventy and eighty years old, and in the Bible,

629
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.720
when they're giving genealogies, they only give the genealogy of

630
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.079
the male, and the reason not because God has a

631
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.240
problem with women, but because the male was considered the

632
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.400
head of the household, and the male was responsible for

633
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.440
the family, he would be the legal overseer of the family.

634
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:46.240
The hierarchy was God to husband to wife, so God

635
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.559
was a protective provider of the man. The man was

636
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.839
a protector and the provider of the woman and children.

637
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.440
So that's why the males are always listed that. But

638
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.799
we also know that the Bible says even Adam had

639
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.279
sons and daughters, so was their first son and probably

640
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.119
their first child period. But they could have had daughters intersperse.

641
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.200
They could have had daughters between Cain and Abel and afterwards,

642
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:08.720
and if.

643
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.440
They's it's not specific and it doesn't need to be.

644
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.319
So it could have been one of his sisters, or

645
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.359
Able could have married a sister and had a daughter,

646
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.720
had and a niece and had a niece in that time.

647
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.880
Because again they were like seventy eighty years old. That's

648
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.039
plenty of time for daughters to have been born and

649
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.480
even you know, granddaughters able.

650
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.799
And people are just like, eh, that's gross.

651
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.400
I mean, well, it's it's a different and this is

652
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.440
what you have to go a different society, different culture,

653
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.559
different time, all the things and people.

654
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:42.839
Had to do with that.

655
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.440
Yeah, and different genetic purity. Yeah, right, our teens are

656
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.960
degrading all the time. And so there was no there

657
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.799
was no command from God not to marry a close

658
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.519
relative until you got to the levitical laws. And this

659
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.799
was about twenty five hundred years later.

660
00:33:58.720 --> 00:33:59.720
Yeah, way later.

661
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.640
So yeah, and other things happened in between there with

662
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:10.039
you know, whether it's with Babbel and the disbursement and

663
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.719
all those things like that, that all happened.

664
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:13.199
Yeah.

665
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:14.960
So and the last thing I'll say on this because

666
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.840
I want to wrap this up with the answering the

667
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.199
question of well, who did I can't think would kill

668
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.239
him if you know, if they saw him. Well, there

669
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.679
were other intelligent beings that transfers to the Earth and

670
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.679
heaven and call the eloheen, and he and he was thinking.

671
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.280
And remember they encountered these entities, the so called serpent.

672
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.599
And that word serpent is the Hebrew word nahash, which

673
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.400
can mean snake if it's used as a noun, but

674
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.280
it's not used as a noun in Genesis chapter three.

675
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.280
It's used as a proper title. And as a proper title,

676
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.679
nakash means a shining one. This was a growing luminescent being.

677
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.320
This was a we called him Satan now, but this

678
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.800
was this was an eloheen. So they were used to

679
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:59.760
encountering these. So Kine was like, well, I just killed someone.

680
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:03.119
I I'm the first murderer these one of these angels

681
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:04.800
might kill me. That's what you're talking.

682
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:11.119
Well, and also even with that, I mean didn't at

683
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.280
the end of the day, didn't God walk with Adam

684
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.440
and Eve? I mean didn't Didn't they have exact, like

685
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.119
direct contact with him in the garden?

686
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:21.679
Yes, So at the end.

687
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.000
Of the day, I mean, even the big guy, you know,

688
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:26.800
they had direct contact.

689
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.239
It wasn't like now or or whatever.

690
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.679
So so you bring up the naha nakash. Yes, But

691
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:41.079
so the name Satan, right, isn't that also is it

692
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.360
is it a job, just like Angel is Satan a

693
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:45.119
job title.

694
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.559
Satan is a job description that is not right, Yeah,

695
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.920
Satan means the accuser or the adversary, right, it's the job.

696
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:53.119
Yeah.

697
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.920
So I've always and see i've always I've actually always

698
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.639
battled that with people that don't know any better or

699
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.679
didn't and I didn't really know better, but I did.

700
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.000
I just knew it instinctively.

701
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.960
Because I always I always correlated it with think of

702
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.599
think of the Greek uh pantheon and Hades is. Yes,

703
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.039
he was part of the council, and we have the

704
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.599
divine council, right, he was part of Hades was always

705
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.559
part of the council, but he wasn't part of the council,

706
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.679
Like he didn't live there. He was somewhere else, right,

707
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.440
and he would just come for meetings, rit calls or whatever.

708
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:33.880
Right.

709
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.519
So to say, I very looked at it as very

710
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:41.400
correlative in explaining somebody the same thing. So it's I'm

711
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.519
wondering if Satan is a job title. So it could obviously.

712
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.400
It could be more than one being, could be the

713
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.920
Satan or a satan or whatever.

714
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.360
Right, I'm gonna give you a give you a spoiler

715
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.519
for the Bible Study series, and that is the Book

716
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.800
of Job. That entity the first that's the first time

717
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.119
we see the word satan or has Satan in the

718
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.320
Bible is in the Book of Job. And you know,

719
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.920
Job was a good guy, doing really good things, and

720
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.559
he was really you know God, he was exemplary and

721
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.239
God was very proud of him. And it says that,

722
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.960
you know, a day came that the sons of God,

723
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.840
but not high Aloheim, which is a which is the Elohim,

724
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.840
the angels came to present themselves before God. They were

725
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.719
basically giving a report to God. And it said, and

726
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.199
has Satan, the Satan came along with them. He was

727
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:34.840
one of them. He was part of their group that

728
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.239
they were giving reports on. Because as as I talk

729
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.519
about in my in my episode on on the Angels,

730
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:43.199
on the on the Elohim, God gave many of them

731
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.360
jobs around the Shepherd creation. There's you know there we

732
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.679
see in Revelation there is an angel over the sun,

733
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.840
there is an angel over the waters. There are four

734
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.320
angels over the winds of the earth. So so angels

735
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.639
that have responsibility. So anyway, it looks like a group

736
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.280
of them were coming to present themselves present every part

737
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.679
of what's going on to God and the haw Satan,

738
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.079
the accuser, his job title came with them, so he

739
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.880
was part of them. Keep wim with them. He was

740
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.599
not the same as the Nahasha. How do we know that?

741
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:15.000
Well?

742
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:18.320
Number one, he's in the presence of God. Evil cannot

743
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.599
be in the presence of God. And by this time

744
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.679
the Nahash had already fallen, he had already committed this

745
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.119
end of God cursed him and judged him, and he

746
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.079
was done. He was he can he will no longer

747
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.880
be in the presence of God. And I grew up,

748
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.159
and I'm sure most Christians grew up thing that this

749
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.159
is the same guy that he just comes to God

750
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.599
and he and God are having this wager over job. No,

751
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.119
the Nakash, the serpent in the garden of Eden is

752
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.159
he's done. He cannot beat before God. I forget. He

753
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:50.119
can't come into God's presence. The Hawsatan, the satan in job,

754
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.360
was not a bad guy. He just had a job.

755
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.239
It's almost like internal affairs. You know.

756
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:02.480
I'm a prosecutor. Yeah, yeah, now the prosecutor. If you

757
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:03.920
if you go, if you've ever been to court, if

758
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.760
you ever hopefully you've never been arrested, but if you have,

759
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.320
then you can't afford a turn. There's a prosecutor and

760
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:11.000
his job. He doesn't hate you. His job is to

761
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.039
prosecute you. You're conviction of a crime. He looks at

762
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.639
the evidence. He says, you'r honor. This guy should go

763
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.119
to jail or be fined or whatever because of what

764
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.559
he did. Nothing personal against you. He's just doing his job.

765
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.480
This how Satan. His job, it appears, is to was

766
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:28.719
to test human beings to see if they would remain

767
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.400
with God. Because when when God asked him, just like

768
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:32.920
he asked the other angel, said what are you guys,

769
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:34.599
what are you doing? He says, I'm walking to it

770
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.320
and row up and down the earth. So he's looking

771
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.519
for something and God so and God kind of lets

772
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.280
us know what his job is. He says, have you

773
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.719
considered my servant job? So that means that he's walking

774
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.639
up and down looking for someone like job? Why and

775
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.280
he's and he's because God says, you know, job is

776
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:52.800
just no one like him in the earth who he

777
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.400
worships me. He serves me, and and the Hasatan says, well,

778
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.559
he only serves me because you're good to him. If

779
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.400
you take away his stuff, he wants serves you anymore. God, Okay,

780
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.880
prove it. So he he is the accuser. He's a prosecutor.

781
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.960
His case against Job was Job is only loyal to

782
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.559
you because you gave him a lot of stuff. You

783
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:13.519
take away his stuff, he won't be loyal to you anymore.

784
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.519
That was his job to test Job. He tests Job,

785
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.480
Joe passes the test, and then we don't hear from

786
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.480
the prosecutor anymore. He's done. He goes on to someone else.

787
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:26.599
The job was not personal. He was trying to test

788
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.039
people to see if people would walk with God. The

789
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.599
reason being, and you might ask, well, why would God

790
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:34.280
do that? Well, understand God's point of view. This is

791
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.960
why it's so important to understand God. God has had

792
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:44.639
so far an unbroken track record of people betraying him. Yeah,

793
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.119
they rebel against him. He creates Adam and Eve gives

794
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.920
them the whole world. They betray him. Then then you know,

795
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.199
the angels come down and have intercourse with women and

796
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:55.639
creates a inflment. That's a whole other thing we can

797
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.039
talk about. And he has to flow the earth. Then

798
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.280
then he tries to and then they rebel and build

799
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.079
his Tower of Babel to try to basically invade the heavens.

800
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.679
So from God's point of view, he says, every time

801
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.360
I don't know if these people, if I can trust

802
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:09.639
these people, every time.

803
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.599
I I mean, and then it keeps going too, the Israelites,

804
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.159
all of it, they all everyone betrays him.

805
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.280
In God's mind, and again, God, we have free will,

806
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.440
meaning that and this is this sounds like sacrilege because

807
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.800
people say, well, God knows everything. Well, that's not technically true.

808
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:30.400
God has all the information that exists, but he doesn't

809
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.239
have information that doesn't exist. My next choice doesn't exist yet,

810
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:36.920
so God does not have that information.

811
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.280
So that is also a great point because it's also

812
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:50.320
the many things may be preordained, but not everything. No,

813
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:55.679
because because you have free will, he doesn't know what

814
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.119
you're gonna do in any given situation.

815
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.039
You'll know your tendencies. And so I guess the question

816
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:02.920
people have is, well, if God, if that's true, that,

817
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.639
how can God make prophecy? Well two reasons. One, a

818
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.920
lot of prophecy is executed by God himself, so he

819
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.639
knows what he's going to do in the future. Yes, correct,

820
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.239
But and he can say general things like you know,

821
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:18.360
the revelation is obviously, you know, almost entirely prophecy. And

822
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.039
so he can say that I Am going to pour

823
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.000
out my balls of wrath on fallen man. Well, he

824
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:25.960
knows that they're going to be fallen man. He doesn't

825
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.440
know who's individually going to be fallen, but he does

826
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.599
know just by track record, that there's going to be

827
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:31.960
a lot of people who are going to be fallen.

828
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.440
He knows that most people, he has evidence that most

829
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.960
people do not choose him, So he knows that there

830
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.760
will be people who will not choose him in the

831
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.119
end times. So he can say, I will pour out

832
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.119
my wrath upon upon them, and I know that some

833
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.760
of them are going to choose the Andi christ at is. Actually,

834
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.840
the Bible doesn't even say that this many people are

835
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:51.239
going to shoot. He doesn't know how many people are

836
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:52.880
going to take the mark of the beast. What he

837
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:54.760
does know is that there will be a mark of

838
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.400
the beast because not because of man, but because the

839
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.000
eloheim has already given up their plan. And we can

840
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.280
talk about that minute. We can see that in the

841
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.440
Book of in the Book of Daniel. But he so

842
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.039
he didn't say that, you know, there are millions of

843
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:10.559
people will take the mark. All he knows is that

844
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.519
who if you take the mark, you won't be saved.

845
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.199
You can't buy or sell that art, he can say,

846
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.719
but he can't say who's going to do it. And

847
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.440
because he doesn't know that yet. Yeah, so with Job,

848
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.320
he didn't know. He said, well, maybe Job he probably

849
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.639
has faith. He probably believed that Job would still acknowledge him,

850
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.079
but he didn't know for sure.

851
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:29.880
Yeah.

852
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.880
Yeah's testing right, absolutely, So then that's life, right, I

853
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:35.320
mean yeah, But.

854
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.159
The message to us is like, when we're going through

855
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.639
these trials, ask yourself and you're ask him, guy, God,

856
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.760
why am I going through this? Maybe God wants to

857
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:45.239
see if you will still walk with him even even

858
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.119
when life starts messing with you.

859
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.639
Well, I just completed a forty day fast.

860
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.559
But for you, I've never I've never gotten that long

861
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.039
ten days.

862
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.039
It was grudle, I'm not gonna lie, but I learned

863
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:02.320
more about myself on a spiritual level than I ever

864
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:03.760
knew prior.

865
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.000
And it was definitely.

866
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.280
I was definitely told to do it at least attempted try,

867
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.760
you know, and.

868
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:17.599
And it was.

869
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:27.000
Very transformative, so good, amazing gave me a lot of clarity,

870
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:32.880
right so so so yes, So the Satan is the

871
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.360
job title, and I love I it.

872
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.199
Just let me let me draw one more nugget.

873
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.400
O go ahead, because it clears up a lot of

874
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:41.280
things he does.

875
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.239
Because here's the thing, the hostile town. The Satan in

876
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.440
the Book of Joke was not the original. I believe

877
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.239
the original satan was the nikash. Yes, because what did

878
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.360
he do? He tested Adam and Eve. I think God

879
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.159
told him, hey, tested these two. But what he did

880
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:58.960
was he didn't do it. He did it wrong. He

881
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.039
lied on God. He was I think he was supposed

882
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.199
to just say, hey, are you guys gonna eat this fruit,

883
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.280
because you know it's gonna.

884
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.480
Be check it. Look at this, this is great.

885
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.440
And then but then Eve said, well you know we're

886
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.119
not supposed to eat it. And he goes said okay,

887
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.119
good job, you passed. But instead of that, because he

888
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.480
had adamasia I believe towards humanity, he said, oh no, no, no,

889
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:20.199
you won't die.

890
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:20.840
That was a lie.

891
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.599
He missed our present to God. And that's when he

892
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.920
fell because he said, you won't die. You'll be like

893
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.440
the Yelo him knowing good and evil. That was how satan.

894
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:33.239
That's how the Nikosh operates. He gives you a lie

895
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.960
wrapped in the truth. It was true that when they

896
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.119
ate the fruit, they did know good and evil, but

897
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.280
they did die. He said, a lie you will not

898
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.760
surely die. A truth you will know good and evil.

899
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:49.360
So yeah, so it's just a question because it cracks

900
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:54.000
out and something for me is the the enemy?

901
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.559
Who? What is there?

902
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:03.079
Is there an organized I know it's organized, but is there,

903
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.760
like per se, a leader, you know what I mean?

904
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.000
Like, is there is there a hierarchy?

905
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:15.039
Obviously because we do have fallen uh and and they're

906
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.400
they're in the hierarchy of whatever. It would just be

907
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.960
an inversion, right, But I wonder is there one? Is

908
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:26.119
there one leader? And it would make sense that we

909
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.880
wouldn't know his name, in my opinion, or its name,

910
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.119
and I don't think we do, right, and because that gives.

911
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:39.599
Us power over over well at least this is my theory.

912
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:42.199
So we wanted to get your take.

913
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.239
Well, what I talked about in my in my episode

914
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.679
on on the angels that in the Bible we only

915
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.360
know two of their names, right in Gabriel that's it,

916
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.440
and there are apparently millions, if not billions of them.

917
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.199
They're like they're compared to the stars in the.

918
00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.679
Sky because other so Michael and Gabriel's so the others

919
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.000
are all known from uh extra canon.

920
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.440
Cannot a book of ch names several of the ones,

921
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.679
the ones who led the fault in desk documented in

922
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.639
in Genesis chapter six. Yeah, he gives them the names

923
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:13.519
like a semiaja.

924
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.559
You're I like the fact that you reference extra comical

925
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:25.000
tech or whatever the word is, the difficult text, the

926
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.320
apocrypha that I like the fact though, that you that

927
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.599
you will use that as material. It's nice because some

928
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:34.880
people it's.

929
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.960
Well, the reason I don't, I mean, I I believe

930
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:39.920
personally that I think the Book of Enoch should be

931
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.679
a part of the scriptures. But you know that's fine.

932
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:43.400
I'm okay with it not being a part.

933
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.239
Of the candid It just depends on which the Bible.

934
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.800
Well, yes, talk about right, something like the Catholic Bible

935
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.960
has more books in it than the Bible that non

936
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.960
Catholics that Protestants use, And a lot of that was

937
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.880
a side on the Council of Nicea, which I'm actually

938
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.119
gonna I'm gonna do a video on because I've gotten

939
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.400
a lot of questions about you know it, can we

940
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.239
relying on the Bible as a trustworthy where are the

941
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.559
hidden missing books? What the councilm I see it do?

942
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:11.119
And that's a whole other thing. But the reason that

943
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.079
I take the Book of Enoch seriously, even even more

944
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.920
so than some of the other texts, like the Book

945
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.239
of Jeshure and the some of the others in the

946
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.639
Book of You believes, is because the Book of Enoch

947
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.360
is quoted in the canon. The Book of jew directly

948
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.960
quotes from the Book of Enoch. Peter quotes from the

949
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.239
Book of Enoch. Jesus refers to I mean not directly,

950
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.559
but he first, because here's the thing. Without the Book

951
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:36.360
of Enoch, we don't you don't know what a demon is.

952
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:37.719
Hue story.

953
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.400
A lot of people Christians think that demons and fallen

954
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:41.320
angels are the same thing.

955
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:41.639
They're not.

956
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.960
Fallen angels are just as the name apply. They're They're

957
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.559
created by God and they fell demons are the disembodied

958
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.679
spirits of dead Nephelm. When the nephilin the product of

959
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.000
the of the angels having intercourse with women are producing

960
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.920
these hybrids. When they die, well, their spirit does not

961
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:01.400
go to to have optually can't go to heaven and

962
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.760
it's not going to go to Hades the underworld. Sheol

963
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.239
In the book of Enicht Talks, bakesically explains that they

964
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.480
were cursed the roam the earth without bodies until the

965
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.199
very end, to the end judgment, until the revelation.

966
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.360
So I wonder how many of the best people there are?

967
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:20.039
I wonder or were? Good question?

968
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.079
I mean, there could have been if you consider that

969
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.079
they were on earth for about twelve hundred years, could

970
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.320
have been people who lived very long lives. They lived

971
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.679
seven eight hundred years, and you let's say they were

972
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.320
fertile for two hundred.

973
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:33.559
Of those years.

974
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.719
I don't even I don't know who even a lot

975
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.880
of kids and then grandkids and most of there could

976
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:38.599
have been millions of them.

977
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.559
And then I wonder, you know the spot well it's so,

978
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:50.079
do you think that the bloodlines, even though they they

979
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:55.840
allegedly wiped the the nephelm, were wiped from the earth, right, Yes,

980
00:49:58.920 --> 00:49:59.960
you know that sort of stuff.

981
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.159
It's sticky stick a pin in that. I want.

982
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.280
I want to answer your previous question before because I'll

983
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:09.320
forget about Is there a hierarchy as there a leader? Yes,

984
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.599
so yes, and so there's a hierarchy, there's a rank,

985
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.760
and that rank is based on power. In my episode

986
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.360
on angels, I talk about the different ranks of angels

987
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:21.880
that the cherub beam appear to be the highest ranking,

988
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.639
most powerful, because they were the throne guardians, and the

989
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.800
entity Nakash was one of them. If you look at

990
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.800
at the at the cherub, one has is like a man,

991
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.519
one is like a lion, one is like an ox,

992
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.280
one is like an eagle. They seem to represent all

993
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:41.440
the classifications of creation men herbivorous, carnivores, and avians. Well

994
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:46.320
there's there's one missing that's cold blooded, scaly animals, tooles

995
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.239
and fish. Well, we also know that this entity Lucifer,

996
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:54.400
the Nakash was, it was a cherub. He was a cherban.

997
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:55.840
It says in the Book of Ezekiel, you were the

998
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.440
anointed cherup. He was annoyed most powerful. So in likelih

999
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.000
that he represented the reptiles, and we know there are

1000
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:09.920
other reptilian Hello angels. They were called a seraphime seraphim.

1001
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.880
If you look at the word now seraph, a seraph

1002
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:17.320
is a serpent. So we were fiery flying reptiles. They

1003
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.519
were they were dragons. And of course the he's referred

1004
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.039
to in a book of revelation as a dragon and

1005
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.920
the Nahash the serpent of old, so he he was

1006
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.800
in charge of that classification of the seraphimes in which

1007
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.159
were dragons. That's what you would call a flying, fiery serpent.

1008
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:33.800
And we see if you go to the Americas, I

1009
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:34.960
don't know if if you've had a chance to go

1010
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.840
to Cancun. Yeah, if you did, you probably went to

1011
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.719
the city of and you saw the pyramid of Cucko

1012
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:41.519
Kan Yea.

1013
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:43.960
Yeah.

1014
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.159
In Chinese. You know, the Chinese they worship dragon, you know,

1015
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:48.320
in their mythology.

1016
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.400
But it's like you look at their calendar even and

1017
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:56.559
they're all normal animals except for the dragon that seems.

1018
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.760
To be in a in a lot of cultures, in

1019
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:00.440
all cultures.

1020
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:04.000
So he was the most powerful. So what happened is

1021
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.480
you have angels. They seem to have fallen in different stages.

1022
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.400
I think you have some that fell during the primordial

1023
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.440
era and most of them, if not all of them,

1024
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.760
were locked up. Then you have the ones who fell

1025
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.159
and had intercourse with women in Genesis chapter six, and

1026
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.360
then you have some fallen in various other times one.

1027
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.880
One group fell when they were given authority over the

1028
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.559
nations after Babel and Deuteronomy chapter right.

1029
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.079
I'm sorry, the principalities and stuff. Yeah.

1030
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.199
Basically, in Deuteronomy thirty two, Moses talks about how when

1031
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.320
after Babel, when the languages were confused, and they were,

1032
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.440
and he says the nations were divided up according to

1033
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.039
the sons of God according to a high aloheim, God

1034
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.719
put an Elohemian angel, a good angel at the time,

1035
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.679
to shepherd all the nations. And he was going to

1036
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.079
shepherd his own nation, Israel, through which he would, you know,

1037
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.679
to be as ambassadors with all those angels fell because

1038
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.519
they allowed themselves to be worshiped. Yeah, so what you

1039
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.280
have is you have a bunch of angels who are

1040
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:04.679
They were very powerful, they were his part of his council.

1041
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.239
And then you have the Nakash who was also very powerful.

1042
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.840
But then you have lower ranking ones who probably fell

1043
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.679
as well, and then you have Nepholim under them. What

1044
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.000
you see in the Book of Daniel is how they

1045
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.920
were all jockeying for position. The reason you have all

1046
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.159
these wars between the empires of Greece and Persia and

1047
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.880
Babylon and uh and and and and Babylon and Rome

1048
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:33.199
were because they they were all again under the leadership

1049
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:37.800
supernaturally of these different fallen angels. And why were they

1050
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.960
trying to conquer each other? Because they wanted worship. So

1051
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.960
if I say I'm the yellowheam over the United States,

1052
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.280
and I have everyone in the United States worshiping me,

1053
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.519
and I want more worship, how do I do it? Well,

1054
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.639
I got to conquer Canada and make them worship me,

1055
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.199
or Mexico or whoever. So it was the same thing.

1056
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.320
That's that was that's really the origin of wars human beings.

1057
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:58.960
Yeah, yeah, no, it makes complete sense to me.

1058
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.239
Nobody you want We don't want war. We just want

1059
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.400
our little plot of land and have family and friends

1060
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.559
and just be, you know, and just hang out and

1061
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.559
do our thing and eat and drink. That it's these

1062
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.679
eloheim and and and their servants under them.

1063
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:17.239
The colonialists, they are exactly.

1064
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.480
So the repro answer to your question, it appears that

1065
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.840
the because Daniel's given a vision of how things are

1066
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:27.440
going to play out, that Babylon would be conquered by

1067
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.039
the Persians. Persians be conquered by the Greeks. The Greeks

1068
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:35.679
would be conquered by this this very undescribable beast which

1069
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.159
represented Rome, and that would be the one that would

1070
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.239
have power throughout the end time. So Roman Empire never

1071
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:41.760
went away.

1072
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:43.320
Yeah, because of the Church.

1073
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:48.320
It's went from a a dictatorship to a theocracy and

1074
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.039
it rules to this day. But my point is that

1075
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.719
it appears that the the Nahash is the one who's

1076
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:59.679
in charge of that empire, so he has ascid control,

1077
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.039
but he doesn't rule perfectly. That's why you still have

1078
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.639
wars because the ones underneath him, they you know, they

1079
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.559
kind of give him ultimate authority, but they're still a

1080
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:09.599
jockeying for position.

1081
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.679
Right, It's like, yeah, it's the it's the the enemy

1082
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.159
of my enemy as my friend.

1083
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.719
Kind of all have the big picture goal, right, have

1084
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:19.760
different ways of get.

1085
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:22.440
Yes, that's awesome.

1086
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:29.320
So so after the flood, yeah, Nephl well and I'm

1087
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:31.960
not going to say Nephli because they weren't called Nephelm anymore,

1088
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.559
but you have like the Raffeme and and there's all

1089
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:40.159
these different but but we're talking about bloodlines at that

1090
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:41.119
point too.

1091
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.800
Yeah, so what is that.

1092
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.800
I know, it's a big subject, Like a little synopsis would.

1093
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:55.079
Be sure, so when when it talks about the the Nephiline,

1094
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.400
it says that there were giants in the earth, johns

1095
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.000
in the earth in those days, those days, the days

1096
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.440
of the pre flood days. And also after that when

1097
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.360
when the sons of God but I I o him

1098
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.119
will go into the daughters of men. Well, that word

1099
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.000
wind can also mean whenever. Yeah, so even after even

1100
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.519
after now they are they aren't the same stature. So

1101
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:22.599
apparently the the pre flud nepelin were way stronger and

1102
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:26.480
more powerful, and we're truly physical giants and some of them,

1103
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:27.800
they are rumors that some of them may have been

1104
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:28.599
one hundred feet tall.

1105
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:29.159
Yeah.

1106
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:33.079
Yeah, but appears that after the flood she started shrinking.

1107
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.639
Because I wonder if that's got to do with the humans.

1108
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:41.559
I would think it's the human side, because we've somehow changed.

1109
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.800
Yes, I believe that after the flood, our first of all,

1110
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.280
lifespans were decreased tremendously. Theography of the earth hundreds of

1111
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.599
years right right to about you know, to about one

1112
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.639
hundred years, and the topography of the Earth changed.

1113
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:57.360
There.

1114
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:00.159
There are lots of books that from Christian authors who

1115
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.760
really talk about what those earth changes would have been

1116
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:05.519
they're one that you know, there's the theory that there

1117
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:09.719
was a vapor canopy around the earth, that ultra violet radiation,

1118
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.119
and now that that's gone, well, we're parted by it constantly.

1119
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.880
That our genetics just became much more degraded. Because of that,

1120
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.280
the earth, most of the Earth is uninhabitable right now.

1121
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.519
Yeah, that the firmament had changed, right.

1122
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.199
There's definitely a possibility of that of that. So so

1123
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.000
because the rain didn't just come from clouds. And also

1124
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:33.960
a case said that the fountains of the of the

1125
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.559
of the of the Deep were opened, and also the

1126
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.400
windows of Heaven were observed ever waters above the earth,

1127
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:45.079
whatever that means. Right, So, so it's the Earth changed

1128
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.519
tremendously and I think that that's what made us more fragile.

1129
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.239
And if you look at some of the other podcasts

1130
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.000
I've done on the degradation of the speed of light

1131
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.920
and how that would affected us. So to your point, yes,

1132
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.320
we became weaker, which means the nephili hybrids became weaker,

1133
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:04.239
and they became shorter and smaller. We human beings were

1134
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.360
probably taller. I mean, Noah, who knows, no one might

1135
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:07.920
have been sixteen feet tall, yeah.

1136
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.440
You never know, right exactly. They could have been what

1137
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.440
we would call giants anyway.

1138
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.280
Yeah, right, so it's an act. So with the blood lines,

1139
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.960
but they were still powerful. So with the blood lines,

1140
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:24.440
they always intermarried with the royalty in all these empires.

1141
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:25.519
If you know, the.

1142
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:30.559
Pharaohs, they had these these these head pieces that were elongated.

1143
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:36.199
It is right, I'm sure you're not exactly conical more elongated, you're.

1144
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.719
Just yeah, well, well the head pieces were more square,

1145
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:41.480
but that doesn't mean that what's underneath it could it

1146
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:45.559
wouldn't have been cone shaped because like you know, people

1147
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.639
like La La Marzouli done a lot of work on this,

1148
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.679
Steve Quail, those kind of folks have talked about how

1149
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.960
these you know, latter day Nephelin, the Refie, the zuzulin Uh,

1150
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:56.800
the other ones that are there mentioned in the Book

1151
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.599
of Numbers and Deuteronomy. They were smaller, but they were

1152
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:02.760
still very powerful and they were always a part of

1153
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.039
the royalty. And so these the pharaohs probably had those

1154
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.960
cone heads because if they were probably Nephelin as well,

1155
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:11.719
but over the years became more and more deluded.

1156
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.559
What about the term blue blood do you think that also.

1157
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.480
Yes, The term blue blood is actually come from the

1158
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:23.320
idea that when the nephilin's blood was very dark, it

1159
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.960
was sort of blue blood.

1160
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.400
Even like purpleish ye right blue?

1161
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.719
Well, yeah, gotcha, And that's where that term comes from.

1162
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.719
Now granted to this today, I mean that it's become

1163
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:37.559
so deluded. I mean, if you were to cut you know,

1164
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:41.639
King Charles, or if you're a slightly probably, but that

1165
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:46.840
term exists because back then, when when the blood lines

1166
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.039
were more pure, it hadn't hadn't been hadn't experienced much degradation. Yeah,

1167
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.360
they would have blood that was very very dark. Interestingly,

1168
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:56.639
one of the plague, one of the last plagues that

1169
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.840
were the bowls of Wrath right before Armageddon. I think

1170
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.679
it's that the third Bowl of Wrath turns the oceans

1171
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.519
like the blood of a dead man, right, the blood

1172
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:10.519
of a dead person is that very dark color. Wonder

1173
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:11.440
if that?

1174
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.920
I think it's it's it's a lack of oxygen in

1175
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:16.079
the blood.

1176
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.119
Right, So, and that would you know what rh negative

1177
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.320
and some of those Oh yeah, that's a whole that's

1178
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.639
a whole other thing. Yeah, but that's why all the

1179
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.880
royals are so obsessed with preserving their bloodline. They only

1180
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.440
marry cousins or sister brothers because they there is still

1181
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.199
power in that in that blood, even though it's diluted,

1182
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:41.559
it's still a conduit, because blood is the conduit through

1183
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:45.599
which that thins the veil between the spiritual realm and

1184
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:47.440
our physical realm and allows manifestation.

1185
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.599
So I think we're getting to a point where we

1186
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:53.599
might need to start wrapping it up a little bit.

1187
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:58.840
But so what, I'm not trying to be predictive, like

1188
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.239
making you, you know, be predictive. But there's there's two

1189
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.360
things that I've always that I've got questions on. One

1190
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.400
is the mark of the Beast? Yeah, what do you

1191
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:16.280
in your educated opinion think it is right? And then

1192
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:24.119
the second one is every every generation thinks they're in

1193
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:29.679
the end times? Yeah, why if are we any different?

1194
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:34.639
Or is it or is there more profit prophetic things

1195
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:39.360
that have happened that kind of like go, oh, maybe

1196
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:44.239
we're you know, we're probably closer. Obviously we're for other time,

1197
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:45.119
but you know what I.

1198
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:46.239
Mean, So yeah, I do.

1199
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.960
Okay, So let's start with the Mark of the Beast,

1200
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:50.960
and I give a detailed explanation of this in my

1201
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.239
Revelation series I think.

1202
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.840
I have I love you man, you can you have

1203
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.960
everything already not everything already covered, but a lot of

1204
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000
this stuff already covered. And this is what this is

1205
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.920
all about and giving references and it's awesome.

1206
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:03.880
Yeah.

1207
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.280
I do a whole series on the anti Christ and

1208
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:06.920
I have I have like an hour on what I

1209
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.639
think the mark of the Beast is. And this is speculation,

1210
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.039
but I believe that the mark of the Beast is

1211
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.360
going to change you genetically.

1212
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:22.239
What should make sense because of the Nephlum, It's that

1213
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.719
they seem to be the only thing in the Bible

1214
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:25.679
that can't.

1215
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.159
Repent, repent, and and you see after people think the

1216
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.199
mark of the Beast, they are no longer eligible for salvation.

1217
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.480
So this is so there are several strings that I

1218
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.480
had to pull together to come to my conclusion. So

1219
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.599
the conclusions I think it's going to alter you genetically.

1220
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.480
One of the reasons is that is after after you

1221
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:44.760
take the mark of the Beast, you are no longer

1222
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:45.679
eligible for salvation.

1223
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:46.480
That's one.

1224
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.239
Secondly, you see several times after when God is pouring

1225
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.000
out his wrath on on the world, it says that

1226
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.280
people do not repent even though all these devastating things

1227
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.960
are happening, So at least been two questions, Why wouldn't

1228
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.199
you repent when you see all these things happening? And

1229
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:04.760
why are you no longer eligible for salvation? Why can't

1230
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:06.599
you say, you know what, God, I took the mark

1231
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.199
of the beast. I'm sorry, I was wrong. This antichrist

1232
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.960
guy's nuts. I can I can I join? Can I

1233
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.519
can you forgive me? Why wouldn't God be able to

1234
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:16.719
forgive you? The only thing that will make you el

1235
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:22.760
ineligible for salvation is if you are not human, because

1236
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:26.760
Jesus died for all humanity, so that that was that.

1237
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.280
The other is that during the I think the fifth

1238
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:34.960
Trumpet judgment, these demonic looak, these demonic cloak has come

1239
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:36.800
from the bottomless pit, and they stay sting people. And

1240
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.400
it says a very strange verse. It says, in those days,

1241
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.159
men will seek to die but won't be able to

1242
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:46.800
How can you not die? El Marzui has a theory

1243
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.599
that he also believes it's going to be a genetic alterization.

1244
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:51.239
And you know, but he thinks this is just going

1245
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.360
to make you so sturdy that death will be difficult. Okay,

1246
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:56.920
well maybe, but if I jump off the top of

1247
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:58.880
the empire state building. I don't care how sturdy I

1248
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.679
I'm gonna go set right. The only thing that makes

1249
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:03.800
sense to me. The only way you can want to

1250
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:05.280
die and not be able to is if you're not

1251
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.280
in control of your own body. So I believe because

1252
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.880
of those things, and also because I also believe that

1253
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:17.400
when the Antichrist suffers its head wound, it talks about

1254
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:19.800
this in Revelation chapter thirteen. He says he suffers a

1255
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.519
wound to the head, and some people there's some controversy

1256
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.360
about that because he's all whether the Antichrist is a

1257
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.960
person or a system, and it's both. Actually, I think

1258
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:31.920
he's a system and he's a person because it talks

1259
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:37.679
about him as an empire in Revelation chapter seventeen eighteen,

1260
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:41.760
that he's one of the government heads. But he also

1261
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.480
says he's a person. He is an individual because he's

1262
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.519
going to be the false Messiah. So he said he

1263
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:51.599
suffers a mortal wound, which he comes back from. Well,

1264
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:54.440
in all the world follows him, he says, who is

1265
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:57.079
like him and who is able to make war with him? Well,

1266
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.360
if he's just healed, I mean that'd be pretty remarkable,

1267
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:00.880
but we didn't make you to worship him.

1268
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:01.400
No.

1269
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:03.760
If some if a wound is mortal, it means you're

1270
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:04.239
gonna die.

1271
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:05.320
Now.

1272
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.400
Of course, if he's a fake Jesus, then he would

1273
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.960
have to have a fake death and resurrection. Now the

1274
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.800
ball and Angels Satan, they not have the power of life.

1275
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.400
They could not give him back life. What they could

1276
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:18.840
do is That's why I believe the Anti Crisis is

1277
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.400
gonna be a clone. I think they're gonna clone him,

1278
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:23.679
and they're gonna put another spirit in him. And I

1279
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:25.239
think that spirit will be the spirit of a nepheling

1280
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:27.679
and all the world is gonna want to be like him.

1281
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.000
And I know I'm going over a lot in a

1282
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.960
short periods, but what I'm saying is that details go

1283
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.280
to faith fabories and dot net or to my YouTube channel.

1284
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:38.119
Watch the whole video. I think what's gonna happen in it.

1285
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.159
People are going to one to identify with him, and

1286
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:43.960
you identify with him by becoming like him, and meaning

1287
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:45.159
you can become a nephilim as well.

1288
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:45.800
So it works.

1289
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.400
Mark of the Beast will alter your DNA to either

1290
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.239
make you turn you into a nephilim or make you

1291
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:56.559
a vessel, be possessed by a nephelin. That's why you

1292
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:00.400
can't repent. That's why you can't be forgiven. That's why

1293
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.800
you can't die, even if, even if, because you're you're

1294
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:05.239
a prisoner on your own mind. That the netflin's as

1295
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.960
this demon is taken over and now you want to die.

1296
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.320
But it's like, no, I'm not. I'm staying here. I've

1297
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.159
been rolling the earth for hundreds thousands of years and

1298
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:16.199
I finally have a vessel. That's why demons always want

1299
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.440
to possess people, because they don't have a body. They're disembodied.

1300
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:19.840
Neffelin.

1301
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:23.079
Absolutely, So that's what that's my take on the mark

1302
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.840
of the Beast. You know, others disagree, but just fine.

1303
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.519
I mean, I could I could be wrong, but this

1304
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.320
is just my opinion based on the research I've done.

1305
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.599
You can watch the whole video to get an hour's

1306
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.320
worth of my Yeah. Sure, and and look and we

1307
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:40.760
have the technology we do, we already have. You know,

1308
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:44.679
there were the the injection from the pandemic. Man, I

1309
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:46.719
don't I don't want to get bad. I don't want

1310
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:48.800
to get you baded from whatever platform you're on, because

1311
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:50.880
I got I got. I said that I already got.

1312
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.119
I got a warning. I got a warning, uh two

1313
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:54.280
weeks ago because.

1314
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:55.480
I got to I got one more lef and I'm

1315
01:06:55.519 --> 01:07:00.639
kicked off of YouTube. Ye right, But anyway, it it

1316
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.639
basically it rewrote part of your your genetic code. Yeah,

1317
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.360
it is m RNA. So that technology exists. You took

1318
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.480
a look at neuralink, the stuff that Elon Musk is

1319
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:14.880
working on, and that guy, I do not trust him.

1320
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:18.880
You and we know cloning is uh yeah, we know. Yeah.

1321
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.599
They I was a kid when they cloned that that

1322
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:25.199
that sheep, so you know, yeah, not the sheep. So

1323
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.679
we know the technology exists. So that's my take on that.

1324
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:31.079
So as far as already in the end times, yes,

1325
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.760
but like you said, every every generation thought they were

1326
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:37.039
the Apostle Paul, you know, thought that he was as well.

1327
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:42.039
My reasoning for it is I look at the seven

1328
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.800
Letters of Seven Churches in the Book of Revelation in

1329
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:48.400
chapters two and three, and I'm of the opinion, and

1330
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:50.360
I think a lot of people in Eschatology agree with

1331
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.880
me that in addition to those being letters that were

1332
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.400
written to those actual physical churches, they also outline church

1333
01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:00.199
history in advance from the Apostolic age of the Church

1334
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.679
and emphesis to the first century, the persecuted Church of

1335
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:06.320
the second and third century, which is Smyrna. All the

1336
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:08.320
way up you get to Thyatira, which was the Church

1337
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:12.599
of Idolatry, which I think is Roman Catholicism, cons artists

1338
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:16.119
the product of the Reformation Church Philadelphia, the missionary Church,

1339
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:18.479
and then the Church at Ladicea, which I believe is

1340
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.399
are modern church. So and that's the last church mentioned.

1341
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:23.439
That's the last time the word church is mentioned in

1342
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:25.960
the Book of Revelation, which is at Leadicea. And what

1343
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.600
was lad to see? It was like they would not

1344
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.199
take a stand on anything. They were lukewarm because they

1345
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:35.520
wanted to hold onto their material wealth. They were wishy,

1346
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.720
was she Yeah, They said, well, we're not going to

1347
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.000
take a stand one way or the other. We'll just

1348
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.760
be right in the middle so it'll be liked, you know.

1349
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:46.479
I again, I don't normally call people out, but to me,

1350
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.720
the epitome of Leodicea Church is joelostein.

1351
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:54.119
Yeah, yeah, total milk toast, right, it's just absolutely.

1352
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:55.640
The emerging church and stuff like that.

1353
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.399
And they've stripped all the supernatural out of it, other

1354
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.119
than the redsid direction and or a little bit of

1355
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:04.039
this and a little bit of that, like the flood

1356
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:05.079
and some things like that.

1357
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:05.760
But other than.

1358
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.199
That, it's just about getting money and right spouse and

1359
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.039
which again, nothing wrong with it. I'd love to have

1360
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.399
more money, and you know, I'm glad I've founded a

1361
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.399
good wife. But that's not all there is to it.

1362
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.439
It's about your life. It's about more than that way more, Yes,

1363
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.920
for sure, I believe it that And I just look,

1364
01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:25.119
I look at the acceleration of the way things are going,

1365
01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.439
and yeah, financial and you have to get to a

1366
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:32.239
point that you're right now, we're at a point like

1367
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.039
how how much farther can we go?

1368
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.920
Yeah? And your your theory is too that the speed

1369
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.560
of light is slowing down too, right, Yeah, which has

1370
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.239
probably got something to do with all this as well.

1371
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:46.039
I mean I think that's hard. Yeah.

1372
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:47.319
And I think the last thing, and this is the

1373
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.239
most important when people when I talk to people and

1374
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:52.359
they say, yeh, we in theion times, and they always say, well,

1375
01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.960
it's because of all the evil in the world, you know,

1376
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:57.640
all the different things that people are doing. I said,

1377
01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.800
but that's not that's not what we should be looking

1378
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.399
for because that's always been there.

1379
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.000
Huh, that's always been there. That's evil.

1380
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:09.000
That evil has always been there, but you just didn't

1381
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.520
see it because it wasn't we weren't there.

1382
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:12.199
Well.

1383
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:14.039
But the other thing to keep in mind is that

1384
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:19.560
the increase of evil is incomplete. It is in line

1385
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:24.039
with the decrease of the church. Yes, the more the

1386
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:27.000
more light is decreased, the more darkness increases. So if

1387
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.439
you want to look at what's causing things to go down,

1388
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:31.680
so quickly look at the.

1389
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.880
Church, the new church or the less church.

1390
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:38.000
As the church loses spiritual power. Just by I mean

1391
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:39.960
it's like you know, you go into a brightly lit room,

1392
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:45.439
the more you dim that light, the more darkness comes in, right, exactly.

1393
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.720
It makes a lot of sense, right. So Yeah, the

1394
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.399
word I'm looking for is is inversely related. So the

1395
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.680
stronger the church is, the less evil. The weaker the

1396
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.520
church is, the more evil. Like you know, the United States,

1397
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.039
you can say what you want about currently, but we

1398
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:03.439
were founded on some that were pretty impressive and this

1399
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:05.600
is joined the time of the Great Awakenings. When you

1400
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:08.920
have people like you know, Charles Spurgeon and Matthew Henry

1401
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:11.479
and all these great preachers, and they had these great

1402
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:14.319
revivals that people were coming to God. During that time,

1403
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:17.720
you have the United States come into power and just

1404
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:19.880
became in one hundred years, the first one hundred and

1405
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.439
fifty years of give or take of our nation. We

1406
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:26.079
just went from nothing to incredibly wealthy and.

1407
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.760
Power, the shining light on the hill, right and now,

1408
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:31.600
but it seems.

1409
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.159
Like there's a lot of the world that is.

1410
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:40.439
Aligned against us or this country that was founded on

1411
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.800
those principles, right, and that just makes the world darker.

1412
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:45.600
It just does.

1413
01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:47.840
Not to get in too much politics, but I think

1414
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.439
the worst we get as a nation, I think, you know,

1415
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we were I think we weren't that shiny beacon on

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:56.319
a hill for a good hundred years. But right now

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01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.239
we're not just being destroyed from without, We're being a destroyed.

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From within, right Yeah. Yeah, so for.

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Sure, So maybe we'll be around for another couple hundred years.

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But I just don't see at this rate unless the

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only thing I think that would stop this degradation and

1422
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:15.079
and keep us going would be another revival. Yeah, I

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just but.

1424
01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:20.479
It's almost like this is accelerating and not to be

1425
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:22.479
a great another one well, it's just kind of funny

1426
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:26.039
that you talk about the spee that the light is decelerating.

1427
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:29.119
It just makes sense.

1428
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:34.279
Yeah yeah, So man, it's like drinking through a fire hose. Man,

1429
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I have a lot of information and I and I

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01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:38.159
love it. I do.

1431
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:40.640
I love it, but I have to go to I

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01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:43.560
have because I take notes. I'm a note taker, and

1433
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:46.239
I've got so much crap on faith by reason to

1434
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:50.000
look at right now because I've just been scouring your

1435
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.640
website for the better part of well since I heard

1436
01:12:53.640 --> 01:13:00.199
about the Bible Study on NDS. So I man, it's

1437
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.720
like ing and that was right? It was funny is

1438
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.359
that was about ten or twelve days in my fast

1439
01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:10.760
Oh wow, it's like everything started rolling, man, and.

1440
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.479
Like on the unveiling, like I got more light when

1441
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.680
you know what I mean. So anyway, and any last

1442
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:24.000
words and give us where people can find you.

1443
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.479
Sure, So on my last word to Christians is something

1444
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.279
that I did a couple weeks ago, I think on

1445
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:35.359
on my Patreon. It's really about deception. There is I

1446
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:39.239
want Christians to be on guard about deception. There are

1447
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.279
a lot of people out there right now giving prophecies

1448
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:43.920
saying that they got this.

1449
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:44.560
Word from God.

1450
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.520
And I'm not saying I'm not here to judge who

1451
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.039
has it, who haven't gotten a word from God. I'm

1452
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:49.760
not there, I'm not with him. I wasn't there when

1453
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:51.840
they heard whatever they said they heard or came up

1454
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:53.880
with their theory. But what I did, I gave some

1455
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.520
rules that you should always keep in mind when you

1456
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.439
are looking at any any type of prophecy, any type

1457
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.000
of so called profit. And the number one rule is

1458
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.760
to know who God is, so that you know who

1459
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.479
he isn't that he will never contradict himself. He will

1460
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.560
never say something to anyone that is not in his

1461
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:14.920
word or that contradicts his word. So if they do that,

1462
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.279
then run from them. So I think, I think we're

1463
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:21.760
in a time a tremendous deception. And that's the reason

1464
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:25.840
for my Bible study is primarily to know God, because

1465
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:27.880
if you know him, if you know his true personality

1466
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.880
and his true will, then you won't fall for any

1467
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.399
of these deceptions. I mean, the best way to know

1468
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.239
I was I was told this when I was in

1469
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:38.279
eighth grade. He took a My eighth grade trip was

1470
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:41.560
to Washington, d C. And we went to visit the

1471
01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:45.119
Mint the National Mint where they where they make the money,

1472
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:47.159
and there were and we talked to a guy whose

1473
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.479
job it was to spot counterfeit bills, and he said,

1474
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:53.199
you know how I thought, how I spot counterfeit bills?

1475
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.119
What do I study? I don't study counterfeits. I study

1476
01:14:56.199 --> 01:15:01.119
the real, authentic money I want. I want that so embraced,

1477
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.840
so in both, so blazed into my mind, so so

1478
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.239
embedded in my mind that if I see anything that's

1479
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:10.600
even a little bit off, I'll know it because I

1480
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.000
know the real things so well. So that's my point.

1481
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.680
If you know the real God, well then you won't

1482
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.279
be deceived. Don't study the deception. Study who God is.

1483
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:20.199
And when someone comes along and says something like yeah,

1484
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:23.680
that's not that's not God. Yeah, So that's that and

1485
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:25.840
that's and that's really what the purpose of Faith by

1486
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:26.399
Reason is.

1487
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:27.079
Yeah.

1488
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:30.960
So my website faith Byreason dot net, all my material

1489
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:35.880
for the last better part of a decade is up there, blogs, podcasts, videos,

1490
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:40.199
and my Patreon is my new venture where I'm posting

1491
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.359
much more frequently than I do to my website because

1492
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.399
I are are there. So I want to make sure

1493
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:46.760
that they're getting that they're getting value for the value

1494
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:49.479
that they're giving me. So you can join and you

1495
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:53.159
get exclusive bonus content. You'll get the content as soon

1496
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:55.760
as it's released, before it goes to public, and I'll

1497
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:57.239
answer your questions and videos.

1498
01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:58.079
Yeah, I feel like I.

1499
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:02.199
Get an email a day, man, I know, I like seriously,

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01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.000
it's I I'm just like it.

1501
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:06.119
It's it's amazing.

1502
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:09.119
So yeah, and then if you go to the to

1503
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:10.560
the next thank you, to go to the to the

1504
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:12.960
higher tier. Then you can be part of the Bible study.

1505
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:15.840
It's live. It's half an hour of an overview of

1506
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:17.960
all the notes. I give you the next half hour

1507
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.319
Q and A. And you know, then you can have

1508
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:22.840
the rest of your Sunday back. So every every third

1509
01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:27.239
Sunday awesome. So so, but that's patreon dot com slash

1510
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:28.039
face by reason.

1511
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:30.680
Yeah, and I'll put everything in the show notes too, folks,

1512
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.840
so it'll be there if you need to link to it,

1513
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:38.600
it'll be there. At such a pleasure and it's so

1514
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.000
good to talk to you and instead of just listen

1515
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:42.479
to you.

1516
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:46.319
I appreciate it. I appreciating on your show. I appreciate

1517
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.199
you have me, I appreciate you being a Patreon And yeah,

1518
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.880
I'm just as you can tell I have no problem talking.

1519
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:53.800
No, it's great, it's so good. Well at least you

1520
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.960
have something to say, you know what I mean, So

1521
01:16:57.640 --> 01:16:58.920
all right, take care of it.

1522
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:00.840
You got bad.

1523
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.520
Thoughts that make my mind scared. Hold me hostage and

1524
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:05.880
they don't fight fair? Who gonna pray for me? And

1525
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:08.600
white on my tests? Who's gonna save me? If you're

1526
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:11.920
not right here? Move this darkness and make my sight clear.

1527
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:14.840
Take me your way, because I don't like here, gonst

1528
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:15.520
to my past.

1529
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.239
They feeling the night here, wake me up. I'm trapped

1530
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:28.199
in my Nightmass, You trapped in.

1531
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:42.600
My Nightmas, trowning, trowning, I mouth the deepen apparition, some

1532
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:44.359
of all my demons.

1533
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:47.119
All my thoughts, I come, nit and treason all alone.

1534
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:49.640
Who gonna hear me screaming? Matter?

1535
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:52.720
If I stay, shits on my fists, regrets that stretched

1536
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:55.000
out for light years it can almost touch the light.

1537
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:57.600
Hold me, it's right there, body free, but trapped in

1538
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:02.560
my Nightmas. I'm trying, mija. All the life of faith.

1539
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.000
All my life is faith.

1540
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.600
All my life is faced, and that I was wait.

1541
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:10.640
Don't let miss chase.

1542
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:12.439
All my life is paying.

1543
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:14.800
All my life is pain.

1544
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:27.479
Enough and like man when we chat in my life,

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01:18:27.560 --> 01:19:14.600
neskay A