March 31, 2026

Isaac Weishaupt| Are the Epstein Files, AI, and UFO Disclosure Connected?

Isaac Weishaupt| Are the Epstein Files, AI, and UFO Disclosure Connected?
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Isaac Weishaupt| Are the Epstein Files, AI, and UFO Disclosure Connected?
Isaac Weishaupt| Are the Epstein Files, AI, and UFO Disclosure Connected?
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What if everything we’re seeing right now… isn’t random? In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Bennett sits down with Isaac Weishaupt to break down the Epstein Files conspiracy explained through a deeper lens. From occult symbolism in pop culture to MK-Ultra, the Dark Enlightenment, and even alien disclosure… the connections start to stack up fast. This conversation explores: The hidden patterns behind Epstein and elite networks Symbolism in media and how it shapes perception The idea of energy, control, and influence MK-Ultra and the push toward total psychological control The Dark Enlightenment and the future of society UFO disclosure and interdimensional theories This isn’t about fear. It’s about awareness. Because once you start seeing the patterns… you can’t unsee them.

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I think we're witnessing the biggest conspiracy of all time,

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much bigger than JFK. I mean, much bigger than anything

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that has ever been experienced. And I believe, you know, luckily,

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I had all this research over the years of various

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elements of the occult, and I see certain elements that

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appear in they have seen files that support a lot

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of these theories that we've been exploring over.

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The broadcast broadcasts in the minds of the people.

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Okay, all right, we are It's like everything that's good. Okay, everyone,

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welcome to another episode of broadcast some Seeds. I am

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your host, benat Tantan, and today we have the guest

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Isaac Wishap.

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I've checked this guy out for a while.

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It's gone back and checked so much of his stuff

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out it and he is a superstar in my opinion.

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So Isaac, welcome to Broadcasting Seeds. Can you tell everybody

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that might not know who you are, who you are,

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what you do, and where you what's the best place

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for people to find you?

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Yeah? For sure, man, thanks for having me.

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I appreciate anybody who's willing to let me spill my

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nonsense into their world.

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So uh yeah, so let me give you the sort

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of short tour five minute version of who I am.

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So first off, I run.

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The big thing is I run a podcast called a

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cult symbolism and pop culture. But I'm like kind of

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all over the place.

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I do.

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I've written nine books so far, Amazon Audible. I kind

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of dabble in everything, and I have a sub stack.

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I sometimes right on because I started out blogging, so

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that's kind of my I'm.

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More of a writer.

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I consider myself a writer because I don't hadn't planned

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on being a podcaster or in a in fact, I went,

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I kind of had my I didn't release my photo

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in my face for so many years because it wasn't

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my thing, right, Yeah, gotch But the if people are

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as they're listening, they can check out my link tree

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allm links dot com slash isaac W two A's right.

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A lot of people mess up the spelling of Isaac,

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And that leads me to the bigger thing I need

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to address is that's not my real name. That as

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a pseudonym I chose many years ago for my protection

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and because I started I started blogging in twenty eleven,

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started podcasting in twenty fourteen, and around twenty twelve is

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when I got offers to do interviews. The radio show

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out of Oklahoma say hey, we want an interview you guy.

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What's your name is? It'll just Illuminati Watcher because my

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blog was Illuminati watcher dot com. I said, well, let

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me give you a name, and I had to come

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up with a pseudonym, so I chose the I in

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the W as a play on Illuminati Watcher. In hindsight,

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terrible move, because you don't want to get into the

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conspiracy world with the last name. Wise, I was the

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founder of the Bavarian Illuminati, So yeah, I always have

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to address that for newbies who were like, what the heck,

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this guy's part of the Illuminati, trying to expose them.

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I don't think so, you know, so I get that

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a lot. But yeah, the journey for me was sort

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of serendipitous. I didn't plan on making this a thing

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at all. I was just always interested in.

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You know. I grew up in the eighties and nineties,

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and I.

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Was first exposed to Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse

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in two thousand and two. I bought a copy, and

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then around two thousand and four or five, I don't

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know exactly. I had a buddy turned me on to

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David Ike's Freedom Road as a VHS dot.

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Yeah, via just video. That's old school right there.

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Yeah, it's really old schools. Yeah.

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And David Ike was super interesting in me to that

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bough his book, and that was kind of the depth

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of my knowledge of the occult and conspiracy. I just

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I just would listen to it all the time because

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I was trying to make sense of it, because you know,

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I'm not like some educated guy on history and stuff.

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I been around twenty eleven. I had a break, but

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I got my bachelor's done. I was waiting to start

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my masters, which is in systems engineering, which you know,

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which doesn't lend itself to necessarily philosophy or history or

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a lot of the things I talk about, occult religions

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and things like that. But systems engineering taught me how

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to research, or taught me how to look at things

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from a holistic perspective, you know, because that's what it's

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all about, is like systems level thinking. So I start

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this blog just because I had a two year break

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and I was kind of like, well, this might be fun.

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Let me talk about the things I'm interested in, and

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you know, one thing leads to another, and all these

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years later, it's this big thing I do now and

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it's fascinating to me still to this day. I'm still

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learning to this day. My value I provide for people

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is transparency and honesty to the point of being a flaw.

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Like last year or two years ago, maybe last year

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two years ago, I did a three hour show like

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who Am I? Because I find that to be very

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important today because things have changed so much since I started.

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Where now you've got disinformation.

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Agents that are in the realm of conspiracy, and we're

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going to talk a little bit about this idea. The

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guy named Cass Sunstein, who worked in the Obama administration

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wrote a paper about how to address conspiracies back in

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two thousand and eight, and there's a bunch of fancy

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ideas he presents, and the main gist of the paper

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was conspiracies can be dangerous. We need to find a

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way to shut them down. And one way to do

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that is to put out disinformation, to insert disinformation agents

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within these circles that the conspiracy people research and talk to.

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So to me, I don't know who to trust anymore.

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I am I'm you know, I'm kind of a paranoid

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guy to begin with. It doesn't help the research conspiracies

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all the time. But the point is that I try

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to be as forthcoming and honest as I can be

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because I don't have an agenda. A lot of these

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people I question where their money comes from. I'll give

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you an example. And I'm not picking on this guy,

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like I don't have a problem with him, but like

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Jesse Michaels from American Alchemy Huge, he.

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Was on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was on his show,

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Joe Rogan is a new podcast.

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So this guy's connected, right, And I thought, wow, this

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guy's because put him on my radars. He interviewed a

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guy named Peter Lavenda who's very well known in the

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occult circles, who's in one of my opinions, is one

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of the guys that knows how everything fits together. And

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I thought, man, how did this guy score Peter Leavenda

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to seemingly nowhere?

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And then I dug into his background.

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It turns out he's basically works for Peter Tiel, which

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is part of the Dark Enlightenment stuff. So yeah, is

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Jesse Michael's part of all this I don't know. I

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don't know the guy. He seems like a nice guy,

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he's very educated. I like what he presents. I'm just

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saying that everyone that comes along. Now my brain is like,

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do I trust this person?

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And and that's it's a dangerous place to be, but

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I think it's necessary.

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And that's why.

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That's why I'm trying to say, is I try to

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be as honest with my listeners as humanly possible, because

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I don't I'm not funded by some guy. I'm funded

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by the people that listen to the show. I don't

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have an agenda to make them Christians. I don't have

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an agenda to demonize a political party.

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I don't. I don't really have those things.

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I have my opinions and preferences and biases and filters,

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which is why I did that three hour Who Am I?

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Show?

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Because I want people to know that and I think

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it's important and a lot of people don't offer that.

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Ever.

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You'll notice, like, you know, Joe Rogan hasn't done a

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three hour show? Who's Joe Rogan? Why do I think

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what I think? Why do I have the guest on

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that I have on?

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It's yeah, and again, no shots fired, Jean. I just

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in light of the last few years, I've become more

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skeptical of information that's coming through, whether it's the mainstream

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media or the alternative stream media, there's a coordinated orchestrated

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effort to create our reality, which is where we get

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into the realms of the occult magic.

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And Epstein absolutely. Cas Sunstein, he brought up craziest book,

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one of the not craziest, but it's basically the liberal

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left's playbook.

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Is that book Nudge that he wrote.

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I'm not trying to get him beside of the books,

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but if you haven't read the book Nudge, it basically

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explains the entire system. And how I mean it just

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makes sense is we don't need to do some revolutionary thing,

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we just nudge, right.

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Interesting, Yeah, that was around the same year, two thousand.

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I haven't read.

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Cass Sunstein's it's a great book. It's he's he's a

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co writer of a technically I think and then I

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don't know, you know, I think my audience knows. But

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at the end of the day, when we talk about

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somebody like Cass Sunstein, we have to also look at

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his wife and who she is and I don't know

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if you know, I.

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Don't suspect you do.

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So you know us AID or us AI d that

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was just shut down effectively last year. She was the

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director of us AID. So that's that's his wife. Interesting

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connecting dots that that So that takes me.

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To another caveat I want to present it is that

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I don't get into. So like my content is a

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mix of So my forte is I like to take

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pop culture examples, whether it be music videos, super Bowl

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for performances, movies, and I watched them and I share

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the symbolism and the occult philosophies that I find sort

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of hidden within the art. And every now and then

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I'll dabble into this like conspiracy realm, and part of

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that conspiracy realm gets into geopolitics and these players and

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political angles, and I don't really it's not really my forte.

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So I know who casts uns seen in. I didn't

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know his wife was in us AID.

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In fact, I don't even know the whole drama about

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us AID because it's not really my ProView. I know,

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I know it's I know it's a thing they've shut

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down because there's you know, allegations of funding and I

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wouldn't be shocked if all that's true, Right, I don't

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dismiss it, especially with the Epstein files, Like it's clear

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that there's a octopus.

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That's it just shows you. It just shows you the dots.

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It just connects the dots a little bit.

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That's it.

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And and I understand the I tried to not be

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political either, because why I look at this world that

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we're in is more of a fight between good and

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evil versus each other, not so much you know, red

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versus blue, or you know.

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I think that's what I agree with you, right, I

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agree with you.

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I think it's a I think the octopus takes over

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both political parties.

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And frankly controls both.

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So I agree. Yeah, yeah, I'm only on the same

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on the same thing.

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And that's why that's another reason I kind of avoid

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the political stuff now.

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And I'm just saying I'm avoiding it on your show.

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I'm just saying I don't really dig in and research

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it because it's so by part it gets so bickering,

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and it's like people want to believe what they want

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to believe, and it's like, oh, I am like arguing

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with people, like you're gonna believe whatever you want to

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when it comes to that. So let me talk about

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stuff it's in movies and stuff, you know what I mean.

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I'm not moving the football on that. Not not with people.

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It's just not They're so entrenched that you just have

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to show them the truth in other ways.

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about manati agenda, right, I'll just use that phrase and

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cultural manipulation, what does that concept mean to you today?

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Like in practical terms?

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So, I think that a lot of the stuff we're

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seeing and witnessing a lot of these like files coming out,

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I think it goes back to I mean, it kind

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of all connects into the same classical conspiracy theory that

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exists of a sort of shadow government, a deep state,

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whatever you want to call it. This line of thought

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leaders that goes back through all the groups that all

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my you know, my red pill daddies like Bill Cooper

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and David Ike talk about these like trilateral commissions, which

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is also if you watch the Epstein video, it's super

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Yeah says he's a part of it, the Builderberg's Bohemian grove.

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All of this stuff.

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I think I think you can draw a straight line

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from these control systems and hidden groups, secret societies, back

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through like the Age of Enlightenment and the occult arts

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of alchemy and Kabbala and all these things, and it

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goes back through John Dee who's making contact with aliens

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and getting this hidden language, and it goes all the

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way back to the Watchers and the nepheline from the Bible,

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this sort of fallen angels, right, and it's all about

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it's always about knowledge being handed down, knowledge being power.

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And you'll find like the same sort of recurring themes

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when we talk about the occult and a lot of

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these people that are involved with this stuff. It's always

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the pursuit of becoming a god. It's always trying to

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obtain nosis or the knowledge. It's trying to locate the

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lost word of Freemasonry or complete the great work of alchemy.

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It's a lot of this weird coded language, but to me,

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it's a I think it goes back to the idea

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of man trying to become god, man trying to unlock

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immortality through the philosopher'ste or the elixir of life or

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some of the more bizarre stuff.

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That we're reading about in the Epstein files.

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I don't know what I don't know what words I

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can say on your show or to not get you canceled.

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But there's you know, there's theories about I use coded language,

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like there's theories about using the liquid that comes from

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someone's body, particularly someone who's younger, like, there's theories that

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that can be life extending. And I think that that's

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what all this goes into is it's just these guys

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that are pure narcissists that decide they can pursue this

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occult idea of becoming god.

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Because it's not a new thing.

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This has been the discussion for hundreds and thousands of years,

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right all the way back to the Garden of Eden,

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with a serpent telling Adam and Eve like a you know,

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I can open your eyes and make you become like gods.

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I think it's the same phenomenon, it's the same control system.

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And I think they become literally possessed by demons at

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some point that they're willing to sell their soul, to

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sell out the human race for their own gain. And

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what I get into and my research is more about

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the techniques they use through symbolism and ritual magic. Right,

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magic is controlling the energy flow. It's always about energy.

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Is where it goes back to stealing the loose or

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however you want to call it. I think that's what

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this control system is, and that's what we see with

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the Epstein emails, with this octopus that seems to infiltrate

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every aspect of life, from media to movies, to music,

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to politicians and everything. It's because it is all connected,

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and it's kind of confirming all the scary stuff we've

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been looking at and talking about all these years.

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Yeah, so, like we just had something huge go down,

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like because a lot of your stuff ties back to

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pop culture, right obviously, Yeah, and we just had the

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halftime performance, so to Like, so from pop culture moments

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to symbolic messaging, like how do you choose what to decide?

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Like what do you use? How do you decide what

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to decode? I guess it's the best way to put it.

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It's it's kind of a mix, right, It's kind of

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a mix of what's interesting to me, what are people

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talking about? Because as you know, in this sort of

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podcast game, it's it's like show business, right, if there's

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a business behind this where people want to talk about

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the trending topics. So I have to balance this game

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of talking about old stuff that interests me versus new

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things that are happening that don't interest me. So like,

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for instance, you just aid the super Bowl, I don't

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care about the super Bowl. I don't care about Bad Bunny.

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I don't care about the VMA's. I don't care. I

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don't like, I don't enjoy watching these things. No, I

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don't have a problem with Bad Bunny. In fact, I've

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I listened to rap music and reggaeton and like it's fine.

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I don't hate Bad Bunny. I just it's not that

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interesting to me.

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But it's one of those things that everybody every year,

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because I've been doing it for so long, is like,

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when are you going to cover the analysis? When are

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you going to talk about the symbolism? So I'll I'll

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provide one. And it's sometimes elements of conspiracy clickbait, right

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because I'm just like, well, this is whateveryone's talking about.

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Here you go, I'll do it my best. Here's my best.

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Guess yeah, right, But the but the uh.

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The the point of like trying to decide what to

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talk about, there's it's a mixture of things and Another

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one is like, what do I deem to be something

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that I find important that we need to understand and

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have a more factual basis. And that is why I

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did a four part mk Ultra deep dive in January.

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Because I'm constantly referring to mind Control, I'm constantly talking

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about Project Monarch, I'm constantly referring to mk Ultra stuff.

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And I thought, you know, it would behoove me and

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my listeners if I really took the time. And it

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took me a couple months. I read through several books,

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compiled the notes, and presented it like okay, here, you know,

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Like I read Gordon Thomas's book, which is a factual

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uh re read retelling of the mk Ultra story, as

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well as like David McGowan's Program to Kill, which is

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more about serial killers and a little bit fringes on

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conspiracy all the way down to Kathy O'Brien's Transformation of America,

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which is like heavy conspiracy territory.

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She's making some.

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Wild claims in the book, and I mean, lo and behold,

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I kind of think she was telling the truth. Well,

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the first time I read it many years ago, I

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was like, I don't know about all this man she's

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and I can't say what she's saying claiming in the

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book on this show, but like she's saying a lot

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of crazy stuff, and like Ronald Reagan was doing this

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thing to me, and I'm like, this is crazy. But

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like now that I see all these sc files, I'm like, well,

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maybe it's not so crazy, you know. So I there's

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a there's a mixer of things, and I actually enjoy

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doing the deep dives into the topics that I think

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need to be addressed by, you know, by me and others.

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And a lot of people in the conspiracy world will

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kind of mention MK Alter in passing and I thought, well,

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I'd like to learn it and for myself and see

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it straight through. And like the Poisoner and Chief book

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about Sidney Gottlieb was really eye opening and like to

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sum up four episodes worth of research, the takeaway I

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have was actually a multiple times I saw in many

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different sources this idea that the CIA and Sidney Gottlieb

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had a fantasy of controlling the minds of everybody.

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They wanted a full control system.

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This wasn't just oh, we want to program assassins to

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take out political oppositions, and no, this went further. It

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was toying with the idea of full and utter control

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over another human and getting rid of the free will

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of humanity. That was like one of the main ideas

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they kept kicking around. And then Kathy O'Brien. One of

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the reasons I believe Kathy O'Brien's stories because she mentions

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one of the handlers telling her that he was like, Look,

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don't you understand what we're doing here. This is us controlling.

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This is the five percent controlling the ninety five percent.

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And it's not because we want to control you. It's

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because you guys want it this way. It's because you

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guys don't want to be bothered to follow what's going.

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On in the world and to know who these players are.

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Like you just want to go to work, watch the football,

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and just live your life, which I get.

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I'm actually not opposed to that.

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I'm like, you know what, he's right, Like, I don't

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want to research all this crap and try to figure

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out who's controlling us. I'm with it, like I just

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want to go to work, get my little vacation in

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and watch the little football and relax. But that that's

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how these elitists think, they think we want them to

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control them, and it goes into a lot of weird territories.

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Yeah, the the brand Land circus, right for sure.

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Right, And entertainment is of course the best way, you know,

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Francis Bacon was talking about this about entertainment, entertainment being

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the best way to send a message. Right, It's kind

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of like taking your medicine with something that tastes good.

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It's kind kind of kind of what they're doing, right.

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And I'm still on the fence about about which elements

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of the Illuminati stuff is nefarious versus good or bad, because,

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like I like, I'm an Orthodox Christian, but I also

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have researched a fair amount of New Age content and

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material in my life that I found to be very rewarding.

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Right, I don't know, Like I'm not.

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Here to say everything occult is bad and evil, because

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it's not. No, I think it gets a little subjective,

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and it gets a little you know, I think like

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the left hand Path, folks, those are the guys that

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are into more of the I can become a god like,

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those are kind of the dangerous people, right versus sort

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of your white witches would argue that they're okay because

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they're looking to do magic to you know, make the

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world a better place or whatever they're trying to do.

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But you know, ultimately, like if you if you want

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to walk the path of Christianity, which I'm not like,

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like I said that earlier, it's like, I'm not I'm

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not here to convince people that Christianity is the right

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thing because I see a lot of stuff there that

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I questioned too. But you know, if you want to

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walk the path, like, we're not supposed to be interested

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in these New Age things and witchcraft and all this stuff.

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So I live in this realm of interest in all things.

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I don't necessarily practice the occult stuff. The closest I

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got was I got a tarot reading a couple of

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weeks ago in Las Vegas for fun, and the lady

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was like, she nailed it, man, She was like all

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the money with stuff, and I was like, yo, like

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this is kind of crazy.

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But that doesn't mean I advocate for it, I.

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Know, of course.

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You know.

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Anyway, Yeah, so we had talked about in our before

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the episode, like getting into the Epstein files a little bit.

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So I'm just going to open that gate for you.

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Sure, that's a big kind.

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Of get into there, whether it's a cult, symbolism or

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you know, you know, whatever it is that's got to

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do with it. Because my wife and I started kind

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of talking about it the other night. She's not really

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into any of this, but her friends are questioning her

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because they know who I am, and so I, yeah,

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I've kind of shied away from it on the podcast,

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but I'm going to open the gate for you to

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do it what you want to do with it.

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Okay, Yeah, I think we're witnessing the biggest conspiracy of

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all time, much bigger than JFK. I mean, much bigger

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than anything that has ever been experienced. And I believe,

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you know, luckily, I had all this research over the

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years of various elements of the occult, and I see

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certain elements that appear in they have seen files right

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that support a lot of these theories.

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That we've been exploring over the years.

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For instance, back in back in January of twenty five,

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I started a five episode series on the Dark Enlightenment.

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And it's kind of a long topic. I'll try to

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get through it in maybe like ten minutes. I'll give

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you like the short version.

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Of it take as long as you want.

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Though, okay.

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And because because it again goes back to it's like

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this concept of cycles, right, because these elites they believe

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that they are they have a responsibility or they have

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00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:28.599
the power or the leverage to create the world as

471
00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:29.160
they see it.

472
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.519
And of course they want to make the new ord order.

473
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:32.559
Of course they want.

474
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:35.039
To put us in a digital matrix controlled by the

475
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.920
AI systems so that they can have full surveillance and

476
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:43.480
full control over us. And the way that they're pursuing

477
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:48.279
that is through this philosophy called the Dark Enlightenment. And

478
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.799
when we talk about the Dark Enlightenment, there's a couple

479
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.440
because again you'll notice, like Epstein was researching a ton

480
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.680
of philosophy stuff, you know, and sciences and cutting out

481
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.920
science is quantum and all that crazy stuff. Yeah, so

482
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:09.440
philosophies are how our entire world is shaped, and so

483
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.240
that's why these things are important and why they matter.

484
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.799
And from here we can go back to the nineteen

485
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:19.240
nineties where there was a there was a collective called

486
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:25.200
the CCRU, and the CCRU at over in England there

487
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.480
was at this college campus and a guy named Nick Land,

488
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.400
a philosopher student joins us collective and ultimately sort of

489
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.119
takes it over. And what the CCRU was doing was

490
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:44.839
very philosophical practices, ideas and writings, and this included channeling entities,

491
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.839
channeling demons and demonic spirits. They refer to it as

492
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.880
the outside, right, it's these adversarial forces. These He compared

493
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:58.920
them to HP Lovecraft's entities, right, Okatulu and these entities

494
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.559
from the Abyss and so on, which when I read this,

495
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.240
when I heard about this, you know, it triggers all

496
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:11.279
these different side tangents of occult stuff. So like Alistair,

497
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:13.519
Crowley is probably the most famous sort of occultist who

498
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:18.279
was practicing various forms of magic and contact with entities

499
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:23.000
right well, he had an acolyte named Kenneth Grant, not

500
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.960
as well known, but very well known in the occult communities,

501
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.519
and Kenneth Grant basically took some of the rituals and

502
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.519
ideas that Crowley had.

503
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:35.359
And implemented them in his own new.

504
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:40.680
Magical group called the Typhonian Orto Templey Orientis, And the

505
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.799
whole purpose of that group was to make contact with

506
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.240
HP Lovecrafty and entities like type Typhon from the Abyss

507
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:47.960
is one of the big things.

508
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:50.880
That's why it's called Typhonian, and.

509
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.160
It was all it was all sort of like an

510
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:59.039
extension of Crowley's attempt to make contact with Lamb, this

511
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.519
gray headed alien entity from nineteen eighteen.

512
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.079
I got this goes like deep into weeds of stuff.

513
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.240
If people are curious or if they've never heard of Crowley, Right,

514
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.200
he's the guy who did what they call the Amalantra working.

515
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:17.079
He makes contact with this wizard. It's all sex magic stuff,

516
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.200
by the way, which will come up later, probably in

517
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:24.680
our discussion. But the wizard shows him the way, and

518
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.160
the way is depicted as Lamb, this gray headed alien

519
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.799
that he then draws in There's not much information about

520
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.720
Lamb besides, he draws his picture in a preface to

521
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.319
a commentary on a Hollaenan Belovaski book.

522
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:37.200
Right, yeah, So.

523
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.720
From this kind of Grant's like, okay, I bet we're

524
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:43.240
talking aliens. That's channel these aliens, and he gets into

525
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.799
all this kind of wacky out there stuff about trying

526
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.000
to go in the dark side to the caballistic tree

527
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.240
of life, which is, you know, the refuse system of Kabbala.

528
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.519
It's what they call the tunnels of set and from

529
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.759
here you get into all kinds of like weird stuff.

530
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.960
But anyway, my point it then influenced a cult of Lamb,

531
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.480
where I think it was Michael Beatrice Beatrix was the

532
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.119
guy running that. I don't quote me on that, but

533
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.720
this other cult was trying to make contact with this

534
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:13.200
race of.

535
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.720
Aliens called Lamb and so on.

536
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:19.400
So the point is occult stuff connects into making contact

537
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.759
with aliens, which is what Jack Parsons was doing with

538
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.200
you know, el Ron Hubbard with the Babylon working. That's again,

539
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.160
these are massive rabbit hole topics, worth hours.

540
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.680
Of discussion on the cells.

541
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.160
So here comes the CCRU in the nineties and they're

542
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.160
basically saying the same thing. They're like, we're gonna make

543
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.799
contact with these dark entities and they called it to

544
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:46.079
the outside. And from this comes the philosophy Nick Lamb

545
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:50.279
calls the dark Enlightenment, and it embraces this idea called accelerationism,

546
00:28:51.160 --> 00:29:00.000
which is the idea that capitalism, particularly in America, capitalists

547
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.640
will result in the destruction of the human race and

548
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.079
all this sort of social woke liberal stuff of sort

549
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.480
of worrying about taking care of people and having a

550
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.279
safety net and taking care of the poor and poverty

551
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.920
and all that stuff. All those things are just slowing

552
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.200
it down. And that's unnecessary. We need to just take

553
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.480
the guardrails off of capitalism and go into hyper capitalism

554
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.839
and just let the chips fall where they may and

555
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.559
have all the basically, have all the poors die while

556
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:35.319
the wealthy inherit the land.

557
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:36.799
Right. And this was.

558
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.920
Embraced by Peter Teel who's all over the Epstein files

559
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:47.279
and and you know, among other things. Yes, and none

560
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.720
of this stuff is like secrety conspiracy stuff like this

561
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:54.759
is a fact factual because the Silicon Valley nerd I've

562
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:58.119
been saying since I can remember that these nerds are

563
00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.440
going to kill us, as like kind of a phrase

564
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.720
that dropped out of my many years of talking. And

565
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.400
it's more true every year. The Silicon Valley nerds like

566
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.839
Peter Tiel, they subscribe to this stuff.

567
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.880
Yeah, the pay Tom mafia man.

568
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.039
Paypalb mafia, right, they all do.

569
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:19.839
And that's why you see. And it goes from Nick

570
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.880
Land at the CCRU to a guy named Curtis Jarvin

571
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.599
who wrote a bunch of stuff based on these ideas

572
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.960
of accelerationism, and he also inserts a little bit of

573
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.119
language of how they can do this, how they can

574
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:38.480
achieve it, and what that requires is to embrace neo cameralism,

575
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.440
neo reactionary philosophies. And these are the idea that we

576
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.240
need to get rid of the constitution. We need to

577
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.160
replace the president with what they call a CEO king.

578
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.839
And of course this resonates with a lot of libertarians

579
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.160
who think, you know, we should run everything like a business,

580
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.240
including the government. So people like Peter Tiel and all

581
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.720
these Silicon Valley libertarians, they embrace this idea and they're like, yes,

582
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.480
that's the more efficient way of doing things. We need

583
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.119
to have a CEO king. And then the CEO king

584
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.200
will have a hierarchy of fiefdoms, all ran by Silicon

585
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:10.480
Valley elites.

586
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:10.799
Right.

587
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.240
So that's why Peter Teel is looking at these things

588
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.759
like the Sea Steading Institute. That's why you're hearing Trump

589
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.079
talk about freedom cities. It's this idea that these Silicon

590
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.279
Valley guys they want to own chunks of America and

591
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.279
instill their own AI surveillance fifteen minute city states, because

592
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.559
that will be the perfect way of living and again,

593
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.440
all of this goes back through a cult belief system.

594
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.119
This goes back to it goes back through the Great Reset.

595
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.559
We talked about this in twenty twenty. People have a

596
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.119
very short memory. That's exactly what a lot of this

597
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.480
stuff was. Francis Bacon wrote about this in The New Atlantis,

598
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.200
which is all about America being in the New Atlantis.

599
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:58.079
It was about a scientific theocracy being the leaders of

600
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.039
our nation because they're always the sciences, right.

601
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.119
And then you've got Manly P.

602
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.599
Hall's Secret Destiny of America, which basically says the same thing.

603
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.400
I discussed those books in I don't know a few

604
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.440
years ago. I think it was in my Great Reset series.

605
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.119
But this is what their plan has always been, and

606
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:19.240
this is what they're trying to do now, and they're

607
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:20.000
trying to.

608
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.160
Achieve it in a variety of.

609
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.759
Manners I believe, and the you know, and it gets

610
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:33.480
into wacky stuff like like Elon Musk, even there's there's

611
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.839
a there's a there's a connection between sort of spirituality

612
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:43.000
with the sciences here, because like Elon Musk, he actually

613
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.000
met Grimes, one of his many baby mamas, through a

614
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.440
post he made where he was joking about a thing

615
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.759
called Roco's basilisk, and she commented on it, and he

616
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.200
was like, hey, you know what that means. That's cool whatever, right,

617
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.640
And what they're talking about is a philosoph I believe

618
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:01.400
they fully embrace.

619
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.640
It's a thought exercise that what if.

620
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.640
AI is an actual entity or an actual god and

621
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.799
it manifest and becomes self conscious. However, many years from now,

622
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.319
will the AI look at the human race and say, hey,

623
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:21.480
you guys tried to put guardrails up and slow down

624
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:22.519
my manifestation?

625
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.480
What's wrong with you? And then punish us versus?

626
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.599
Will the AI look at people like the Silicon Valley nerds.

627
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.400
You know, you're Peter Thiels and Elon Musk and all

628
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.440
these guys that are really actively trying to fuel up

629
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.920
AI as the new sort of god. It will see

630
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.480
them and say, it will bless them, right, it'll say, wow,

631
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.400
thank you for incarnating me, and I am the God

632
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.079
and you can be my disciples or whatever.

633
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:48.519
Right, It's like kind of that idea.

634
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.400
And I think Elon Musk is I have a crazy

635
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.440
theory that Elon Musk put a neuralin chip in his

636
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.799
own brain because he's very strange. And yeah, and seeming

637
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:00.680
as possessed him.

638
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:01.039
Right.

639
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.839
That's kind of my rough theory about in essence, right.

640
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.400
Yeah. Wow.

641
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:11.519
So there's a lot of elements of the dark enlightment

642
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:16.039
that you can see connecting in and it gets really wacky, right,

643
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.880
Like I listened to an interview with Nick Land and

644
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.280
he says in the interview that the CCRU that he

645
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.760
was working with the numerology equated to the number six

646
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:31.079
sixty six. Jake and Dino's Chapman they do you remember

647
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.000
the do you remember the Balenciaga scandal a couple of

648
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:36.519
years ago?

649
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:37.239
Okay?

650
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:41.840
Yeah, And the whole scandal was that there were ads

651
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:48.519
that Balnciaga was airing of kids and inappropriate attire and positionings.

652
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.280
A lot of people were upset about this, and right

653
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.199
rightfully so, and they're like, what what are these people doing? Well,

654
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.679
I mean, we read the Epstein files, we see what

655
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.719
they're doing now. But it was a very heavy conspiracy moment,

656
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:03.880
and the people start looking at the fashion industry as

657
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.840
a whole. And Jake Chapman from the the Jake and

658
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.239
Dino's Chapman brothers that do art.

659
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:10.599
And.

660
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.360
What do you call it? Like, I guess like statues

661
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:16.039
or something like, what do.

662
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.719
You call that? Yeah, they do.

663
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.280
They do a variety of things, and they have one

664
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.000
in particular. I'm not gonna say the word on here,

665
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.599
but if you look it up, it's f face is

666
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:27.880
the name of the particular piece of art, and what

667
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.119
it is it's a child and the child has an

668
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.239
appendage on his nose on his face.

669
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.599
That's very inappropriate, right.

670
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.320
Yeah, it turns out Jake Chapman also part of the

671
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.000
CCRU in the nineties.

672
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.400
I mean, what are the odds? Right?

673
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.960
And then Jake Chapman, ironically, when I was, right when

674
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.000
I was doing my Dark Enlightment series, had released in

675
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.320
the middle of that, had released a documentary you can

676
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.199
watch on YouTube called Accelerate or Die, And it lays

677
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.000
out the philosophy in it. And it's kind of interesting

678
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:04.320
because it shows it shows an angle of capitalism being

679
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.840
kind of detrimental to the human race, right, and and

680
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.519
it plats to stuff like, hey, there's an island of

681
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.719
plastic garbage out there, which I agree with that kind

682
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:15.079
of stuff.

683
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.000
I'm like, yeah, that's bad. But then that's there and

684
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:19.559
it's fact.

685
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.880
But then it kind of lumps all these things together

686
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.480
and it's like, and therefore we should just get rid

687
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.960
of this whole system, and I'm like, well, I don't know.

688
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.159
I think you could still still salvage some stuff. But

689
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.639
it has AI as an actual entity that's trying to

690
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.920
reformat the entire planet. And it's funny because this goes

691
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.039
back to Kubrick in two thousand and one to Space Odyssey,

692
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.760
where humans are part of the evolutionary process to seed our.

693
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.360
Our next entity that will take us over, and that's

694
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.159
the AI is.

695
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.519
These guys watch a lot of sci fi, so I

696
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.360
don't know if they're telling the truth and this is

697
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.199
really where we're headed, which is terrifying, or they're just

698
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.960
fanciful ideas that are crazy and out there.

699
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:00.320
Right.

700
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.519
But the argument is that a lot of the science

701
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.840
fiction that these occultists were consuming are the reasons why

702
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.559
people like Verner von Braun and Jack Parsons invented rockets

703
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.079
to get us to outer space and supposedly to the Moon,

704
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:13.800
which I don't believe we ever put a human being

705
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:14.199
on the Moon.

706
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.039
That's another story for another day.

707
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.400
I think that's just part of more propaganda of it

708
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.880
was called war propaganda, I believe, But there is this

709
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.599
idea that the whole purpose of the human races to

710
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:30.000
bootstrap artificial intelligence, which is what you see in two

711
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.440
thousand and one of Space Out to See if.

712
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.920
You keep reading the books by Arthur C.

713
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.000
Clark, that's where it goes is creating a digital consciousness

714
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.400
because that's where the monoliths they came from. That they

715
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.800
came from our digital conscious themselves, trying to put a

716
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:46.199
sort of monolith entity to wake up other races as

717
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.840
to what's going on. But yeah, the whole dark and

718
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.920
linement thing is again massive, massive amount of information that

719
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.840
I think is super relevant, and I think it connects

720
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.840
into a lot of the occult stuff, like, uh, we

721
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.840
get into Saturn worship with it. You get into because

722
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.360
Elon Musk he renames Twitter to x x is the

723
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.559
number is the Osiris Resurrection, which is like they're this

724
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:17.079
big occult fantasy of Osiris and groc. The logo went

725
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.480
from XI, which is eleven, which is the number of

726
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.920
magic as par Aleister Crowley, to the symbol of Saturn,

727
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:24.920
and it goes on and on and on. I mean,

728
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.159
it's just it's just like this massive thing that keeps growing.

729
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:28.519
In fact, I'm writing a book on it if I

730
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.719
can ever find time to finish this thing. I've got

731
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.400
it outlined out. I just things keep popping up that

732
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.159
I'm like, this is outrageous.

733
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:35.400
Man.

734
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.599
Yeah, so we bring up dark Enlightenment obviously, right do

735
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.400
we do? We find it and and it's like, what

736
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:50.840
is there? Because it clicks with me that there's like

737
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:55.039
some very like Luciferian type stuff like how does that

738
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:55.480
link in?

739
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:57.840
Yeah?

740
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:03.679
So they they they view Lucifer as not a bad guy.

741
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.760
Lucifer is the one that can enlighten mankind. This is

742
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.639
kind of like the archetype of the Prometheus, right, because

743
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:10.880
Prometheus gives.

744
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.639
The shining one literally, right.

745
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.320
Yeah, and you see that at Rockefeller's Plaza, which is

746
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.000
of no coincidence, right.

747
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.039
They think that loose.

748
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.880
You know, they subscribe to a sort of gnostic belief system,

749
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.760
meaning the god that we worship, the Abrahamic God, is

750
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.840
actually an evil force. It's just yaw to both demiurge

751
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.320
force that created a false material planet and we're stuck

752
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.159
in this prison planet. And they think that they can

753
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.159
achieve this nosis that will allow them to pass on

754
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.280
and go back to the proper realm in the Pleroma,

755
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.360
which is I'm working on a film analysis of Under

756
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:50.960
the Silver Lake.

757
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.880
Have you seen that movie? I have?

758
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.440
Okay, yeah, not giving any plot spoilers, that's I know.

759
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.559
That's kind of what the movie's about.

760
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.920
Is the elites, the elites finding a way to hack

761
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.960
through the matrix and become one with their gods. Right,

762
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.239
and then it's always back the Luciferian stuff of trying

763
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.119
to trying to wake out him and even even up

764
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:14.639
in the garden and be like, hey, this guy's a

765
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.599
false god, like let me wake you up, let me

766
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.920
open your eyes and up, teach you how to become gods.

767
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.519
He's limiting you to make you sit here and worship

768
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.079
him all this time, Like he's a controlling, mean, jealous god.

769
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:26.400
Why would that be the real god?

770
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:26.719
You know?

771
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.320
Yeah, So I was just wondering if there's a link there,

772
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.320
because I think it just ties things together. So you

773
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.920
have the Luciferians, but you also have this this other

774
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.000
side that's the more well.

775
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.239
So I always you know, and.

776
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.559
I don't know where I heard the term the lucies

777
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:45.320
and the mollis.

778
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:47.400
Oh, I've never heard that.

779
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:54.519
Okay, So lucies are loosefarians, Mollis are Malachians. Oh interesting, okay,

780
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.840
and you know the Moloch obviously the storyes of Moloch

781
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:04.159
and who that is is, but that there's Luciferians and Malachians,

782
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.840
and right now they're kind of the enemy of my

783
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:13.519
enemy is my friend because they're technically at odds, sort

784
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.320
of like they want to go the same place. But

785
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.599
with the Epstein stuff, there's a lot of malache and

786
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.159
undercurrent because of the child sacrifice and the all the

787
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.960
children's stuff. Because Moloch, if you go back to the

788
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:36.119
Bible and other you know, texts, it's this child issue, right,

789
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:40.199
and that's very Malachean. So it's the Lucy's versus the Malli's,

790
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.400
but right now they're they're kind of working together. So

791
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.280
I was just it's just something that that went through

792
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:48.679
my head that I thought i'd bring up.

793
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.039
But yeah, this is this is this is kind of

794
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.639
the million dollar topic. In fact, I'm i'm I got

795
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.719
this book out. I got to start reading it. Here

796
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.480
it's the Death and Resurrection of the Beloved Son, and

797
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.760
it's the information of child sacrifice in Judaism and Christianity.

798
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:04.599
And then I've got another book by an.

799
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.840
Orthodox priest about ball. I thought I had it over here.

800
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.480
It must be downstairs. That's the next thing I'm trying

801
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:11.239
to wrap my head around.

802
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.559
Like so was the other one, Death and Resurrection of Uh.

803
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.719
This one's called The Death and Resurrection of the Beloved

804
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.519
Son by John D Levinson.

805
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.079
This is going to be an expensive show.

806
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.639
Yeah, I dude, I just bought one hundred dollars worth

807
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:27.400
of books this morning.

808
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.960
That's how I rolled too, is I get I just

809
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.079
write them all down and then and then the next thing,

810
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:33.760
you know, down there.

811
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.719
And yeah, because my problem was I interviewed Jay Dyer

812
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.639
last night and I and he laid all these books

813
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.440
on me because I'm trying to figure out because I don't,

814
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.480
like I said, I don't really get into geopolitics or

815
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.920
still the roths Child's Blood Dynasty and all that stuff.

816
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.400
But he but I'm like, okay, I got to learn more.

817
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.639
So I bought a roths Child book and a Carol

818
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.239
Quigley book. But yeah, but now and then it's the

819
00:42:58.280 --> 00:42:59.679
problem of like when do I read these things and

820
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.559
take it's because you know, reading.

821
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:01.800
Is one thing.

822
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.519
Taking reading it and then taking notes of regurgitating it's

823
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.199
like a whole nother thing. But yeah, the the the

824
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.519
Molochs and the and the and the uh Lucy's. That's interesting,

825
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.320
the Lucy's and the Mollies. Yeah, the Lucy's and the Mollies. Yeah,

826
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.119
that's and and that's where it goes. When I wrote

827
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.119
my second book called Sacrifice Magic behind Them Mike about

828
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:23.880
occult symbolism in hip hop.

829
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.079
Because again, I'm like a pretty big hip hop fan.

830
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:32.719
And what your I like? I like gangster rat man,

831
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:33.480
like trap music.

832
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:39.159
Yeah, I'm a I'm a nineties I went to high

833
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.079
school in Connecticut, so right, okay, right by the city,

834
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.599
so I, you know, grew up in the time of

835
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.880
Wu Tang so same, dude.

836
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.440
Same, I'm totally like nineties, Like I was just deep

837
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.679
in hip hop man like Wu Tang and nas.

838
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:56.119
And we'll talk about this.

839
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.039
We'll talk about this more after too.

840
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.519
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, because this there's a lot of

841
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:03.559
places that that's uh, that's what got me into it.

842
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:05.559
And like over the years, I've sort of held in like,

843
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.639
you know, some years, like there's not a whole lot

844
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.320
of music that I can really vibe with, but.

845
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.639
I still listen to the modern stuff that comes out.

846
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.960
But the uh yeah, wo Tank is probably you know,

847
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.679
Wou Tang, Jedi, mind tricks, and nonfiction are my top

848
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.719
three for me, you know, because.

849
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.719
I'm also an East Coast guy.

850
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.400
So what we're talking about, we were talking about Oh yeah,

851
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.920
Ball of Moloch, So yeah, sorry.

852
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:30.920
That's the one thing I do.

853
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:33.519
What I do think I understand about all this is

854
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.679
it's all about energy, right because like everyone says, you know,

855
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:38.719
when you get into the sciences of quantum physics. I

856
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.679
took two semesters of physics in college and we talked

857
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.599
quantum like blew my mind, Like there's some crazy stuff

858
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:48.079
that drops out of quantum physics. And one of the

859
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.360
ideas is like, you know, we're all energy, right, like

860
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.559
e eCos mc square does Einstein's theory relativity.

861
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.360
I think it's what that was. But what that's.

862
00:44:56.199 --> 00:45:00.320
Saying is like matter, you know, this pen, The mass

863
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:03.519
of the pen may be small, but there's so much

864
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:05.440
energy in this because if you could get down to

865
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.360
the quantum level, you would see that it's just a

866
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.239
bunch of atoms and they're like nothing solid. Like that's

867
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.639
what's weird about the quantum realm is like nothing solid

868
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.079
and everything comes down to energy.

869
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:17.800
Especially for people like Epstein.

870
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.840
Who were really into a lot of this theoretical physics

871
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:27.679
and quantum and I listened to Richard Serett interviewed Juliette

872
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.440
Bryant I believe was her name. She wrote a book

873
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.079
about a survivor of Epstein. And I was aware of

874
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.760
all the modeling agency stuff that Epstein was involved with before.

875
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.800
And there was a modeling agency that I always called

876
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.079
MC two modeling because that's the way it's spelled when

877
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:49.960
you researched it online. And the journalist she called it

878
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.039
MC squared modeling, which makes more sense. And I thought, ah,

879
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.719
that would make sense that Epstein has a modeling called

880
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.480
MC squared because that is talking about the formula for energy,

881
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.679
because that's what these weirdos are into. They're into taking

882
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:08.119
advantage and assaulting all these people and young people because

883
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:12.480
it's not always because like their kink is the energy

884
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.039
and the violation and the depravity and the negative fear

885
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.480
based emotions that come from it. Right, And this is

886
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.239
funny because is what David Ike has been now, David Ike.

887
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:22.719
I will caveat David Ike.

888
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:24.960
His his stuff makes a lot of sense to me

889
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.880
more so than anyone else's. Where where he loses me

890
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.960
and this could be my sort of indoctrination into Christianity

891
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.679
as a child, is he he goes into the Gnostic stuff,

892
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:35.199
like he kind of thinks like, yeah, we're in this

893
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:39.079
prison planet. But that aside, he does talk a lot

894
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.840
about how these people that are into all this stuff

895
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:46.440
they harness dark energies, and this includes abusing people so

896
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.599
that they can unload a lot of this fear and energy,

897
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:51.119
which I also suspect is part of the whole reason

898
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.519
we're getting these Epstein file drafts to begin with, because

899
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.360
it's unleashing a lot of negativity. Like everyone's scared and

900
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.119
panicing and I'm I'm a mess too, right, I'm I'm

901
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.679
reading this stuff and it's it's I didn't want to

902
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.360
be proven right on any of this stuff.

903
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:03.920
Yeah right.

904
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.800
It's like I always talk about like conspiracies were more

905
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.519
fun when I got it when I started this, because

906
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.039
it was like I'd watch ancient Aliens. They'd be like, ooh,

907
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.480
did the Aliats build these stones? Well, and it's like, Oh,

908
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.840
it's just fun to think about. But now it's like

909
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.079
we don't know where the conspiracy ends in reality begins,

910
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.679
and so it makes it very like uh induces a

911
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.440
lot of fear and anxiety, which I believe they can also.

912
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:30.360
Utilize for their ball or Moloch worship stuff.

913
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:35.920
For sure. Agreed, I shut it down. Like my I started.

914
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.599
Digging into the Epstein files and I was like, Nope, done,

915
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.719
Like I I it's hard.

916
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:42.239
It was hard.

917
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.360
I don't want to enter this U I don't want

918
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:48.239
to open myself up to it. It's one of those things,

919
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.719
you know, where it's.

920
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.159
Not worth it. The juice isn't worth the squeeze to me.

921
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.480
So I go back and forth on that, Like, on

922
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.559
the one hand, as a guy who's covered every big

923
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.800
con not every, but most large conspiracies as they've sort

924
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.920
of unfolded, you know, all the way back to you

925
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.159
know that school in Connecticut that had the thing that.

926
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.239
Alex Alex got in trouble for. I'm trying to be

927
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:14.320
careful with the words I use on.

928
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.719
Your show all the way back to that, right I

929
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:22.880
talked about that, and it's I can't resist looking into

930
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.840
it because there's so much that now I'm kind of

931
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:27.880
like going back through the catalog and be like, well

932
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.039
wait a minute, Like we talked about this back in

933
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.039
twenty thirteen. That turns out there's some validity to that.

934
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.280
That's weird, right, But I get I also get how

935
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:43.119
it's consuming because I literally can't open a social media

936
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:48.280
or a news tab without it triggering multiple things of like,

937
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:49.840
oh my god, I got to do a show about

938
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:51.599
this topic now in this topic and that one, and

939
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.119
I just did one side. I also run a podcast

940
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.440
with my wife called Breaking Social Norms, where it's more

941
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.880
of a It started out four years ago as she

942
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:01.559
was the normy and I was the.

943
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:02.719
Sort of conspiracy guy.

944
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.239
We talked about yeah, and try to debate it out,

945
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.960
and like, because because she's a good debater, I'm a

946
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.559
terrible debater. Ironically, She's Greek, so she can fight all

947
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.239
day long and I'm terrible at it. Right, So so

948
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:13.719
it's kind of a good it's kind of a good

949
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.119
dynamic because it forces me to sort of defend my points.

950
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.000
And like, in the last six months, it's totally flipped

951
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.360
and now was like she's full blackpill, like nothing's real anymore,

952
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.920
and I'm like, oh, I didn't want that.

953
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.960
Everything righth my gosh, it's.

954
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.599
A weird time right now for everybody was trying to

955
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.119
unpack those things.

956
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.000
Yeah, what do you what do you make of the

957
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.079
and and how do you link back if you've even

958
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:44.519
done this this uh like UAP disclosure stuff, how does

959
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.960
that roll in with this? Because it definitely this is

960
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.840
one of the things that I know my audience is

961
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:55.199
so sick of it. This all rhymes, everything rhymes right everything.

962
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.760
There's threads that link all this trash, all this stuff. Yeah,

963
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.079
and how does this UAP disclosure stuff link in?

964
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:10.320
In your opinion, I think that it's the big form

965
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.000
of disclosure that we're looking down the barrel of right now.

966
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.320
I've read I've written two books. In fact, I got

967
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:17.920
one of them right here.

968
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:21.119
I've written two books on it in twenty two and

969
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:21.880
I've written about it.

970
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.960
And so most my most popular books, called The.

971
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.480
Dark Path, were in twenty seventeen, and I talked about

972
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.039
the alien agenda in there for a few chapters. But

973
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.280
then I've always been like an alien guy my whole life,

974
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.519
always been fascinated by it. So in twenty twenty I

975
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:37.599
dedicated to write two books, Aliens UFOs and the Occult

976
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.119
Usual Illusion one and two.

977
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.440
All Right, one is like my.

978
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.239
Theory, doctrine, philosophies of what I think is going on.

979
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.440
Number two is basically taking those ideas and walking through

980
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:51.760
the most popular films and saying like, see, this is

981
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.440
the this is the stuff they were showing you, and

982
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:55.840
this supports the stuff I was saying in part one. Yeah, right,

983
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:04.719
so big, big old topic. The short version, I believe it.

984
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:10.480
Disclosure of aliens and entities is like the next stage

985
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.320
of things. They claim that. So we know that Steven

986
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.840
Spielberg is releasing a new movie called Disclosure Day. And

987
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.360
if you notice, the trailer shows like a shape shifter

988
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.079
person right yep, I think that is gonna be no

989
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.400
different than Jaws or Close Encounters, where it's they know

990
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.880
Steven Spielberg can speak to the subconscious of the masses,

991
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.760
like when Jaws. I wasn't I wasn't alive yet, but

992
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.280
when Jaws was released, apparently people were scared to go

993
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.719
in the ocean and things like this, Right, So they

994
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.480
know that his movies can have an effect on the masses,

995
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.679
so I think. And then there's theories that supposedly Trump's

996
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.360
gonna give some we are not a loan speech, which

997
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.440
I mean that would be a perfect distraction from the

998
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.920
Epstein files. Is probably the only thing to make us

999
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:55.840
stop talking about the Epstein Files at this point, it

1000
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.159
seems like and the scary part.

1001
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.679
About the Epstein Files just the interject this that they've

1002
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:03.000
only released half of them.

1003
00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:06.559
I know, that's sounds crazy, right, that's anyway.

1004
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.719
Yeah, and I'm with you in the sense that, like,

1005
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.199
sometimes I look at this stuff and I think, you know,

1006
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.239
there's so many people talking about this, like I'll let

1007
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:14.920
them cover and I'll cover something else.

1008
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.639
Yeah, and the redaction is so strategic it's actually frightening.

1009
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.440
So yeah, yeah.

1010
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.199
So I think that it's possible that what happens is,

1011
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.679
you know, July second, they dropped the other three million,

1012
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:34.320
July third, here comes the July or July fourth, I

1013
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.159
should say, it comes the uh independence stay.

1014
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.039
Type, we're not a loan speech, you know what I mean?

1015
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.559
Like that could very well be what happens.

1016
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.599
Like that, like the like the movie frankly right.

1017
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.480
And and and it would it would be so fitting

1018
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.280
because that's how they do things, that's how they roll.

1019
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.840
And on top of that, Spielberg's movie drops June sixteenth,

1020
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.239
so that gives everybody a couple two three weeks to

1021
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.719
watch it and get sort of indoctrinated. And then you know,

1022
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.719
I just foresee it happening like that. But the alien

1023
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.920
agenda is is the big agenda, and I'm in the

1024
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.400
camp of aliens are interdimensional entities.

1025
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.199
Okay, that's just what I believe.

1026
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.960
That was the question I was just gonna ask you.

1027
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.000
So oh, okay, yeah, and I and again this goes

1028
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.519
back the lineage of this goes all the way back

1029
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.599
to what the Bible talks about with the fallen angels,

1030
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.039
the watchers, the nepheline and so on.

1031
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.559
And then there's just so much there's so much evidence.

1032
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.239
To me that points to like this is a phenomenon

1033
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:30.519
that's been happening forever.

1034
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:32.360
H Then you know John D.

1035
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.199
Needward Kelly were doing the the rituals where they made

1036
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.400
contact with entities, the angels they called him, and he

1037
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.519
gots the Inochian language, right, the Enochian language was given

1038
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:42.840
to us from the entities, and they.

1039
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.599
Say, hey, you're on to talk to us. Here you go,

1040
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:45.320
here's the language.

1041
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:45.679
Okay.

1042
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:45.960
Cool.

1043
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:51.119
Then Aleister Crowley sort of takes down this, this this

1044
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.960
Unochian language and modifies it to do the amilantra working

1045
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:58.320
again making contact with entities. Then Jack Parsons does it

1046
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.000
and then called the Babylon Working with a modified version

1047
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.239
of the Amalantra where he is doing sex magic rituals

1048
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.000
out in the desert with horror little al Ron Hubbard

1049
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.800
having to watch him, you know, play with himself. And

1050
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:14.599
the whole purpose of the Babylon working was to manifest

1051
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.079
the horror of Babylon because they you'll find also, all

1052
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.159
these guys are interested in the apocalypse right in the

1053
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.239
end Times and trying to trigger the final the final

1054
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:30.599
age of mankind. For for part, for Parsons and Crowley,

1055
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.199
they were more interested in, uh, just getting rid of

1056
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.599
religion was kind of what I interpret them being into.

1057
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.920
It's not necessarily like let's destroy the world, but let's

1058
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.960
recreate the world.

1059
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:44.079
Uh.

1060
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:50.519
And you know, Crowley was raised a dispensationalist Christian where

1061
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.119
they were all heavy on the rapture in the End Times.

1062
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.599
So he his whole jam was like, I'm going to

1063
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.000
approach this from the other side. I'm not gonna approach

1064
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.679
from the Christian Side'm ap proasure from the other side

1065
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:05.199
to try to make this happen. So Parsons and this

1066
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.920
is where we're gonna get into like the phenomenon where

1067
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:14.480
Parson so again, let me try to keep this short.

1068
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.159
July sixteen, nineteen forty five, we get the Trinity atomic

1069
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:22.920
bomb test. A couple weeks later, after they know tear

1070
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.639
this veil in the skies with the atomic bomb, we

1071
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.320
get the Trinity UFO crash. I was able to interview

1072
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:33.079
both doctor Zacques Valet and Palla Harris. They wrote a

1073
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.559
book about the Trinity Crash, which is absolutely fascinating.

1074
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:37.000
It's not that talked about.

1075
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.559
People talk about Roswell forty seven, but forty five was

1076
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.360
when we had the oreal alien artifacts and all this stuff.

1077
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.320
So then in forty six, Parsons starts the Babylon workings.

1078
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.760
Alistair Croley infamously criticized Parsons and was like, this guy's

1079
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.679
kind of a goofball. He doesn't know how to close

1080
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.880
off the portals properly, and he's gonna leave one open.

1081
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:01.000
Then forty seven we get the Roswell and this is

1082
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:03.760
where the you know, the Collins Elite.

1083
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.280
Entered the picture. I'm not sure if you're familiar with

1084
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:06.880
that who that is?

1085
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.679
Okay, Yeah, the Collins Elite entered the picture and they've

1086
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.079
been supposedly behind you know, all of these different efforts.

1087
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.679
You know, you had Project Grudge and Blue Book. I

1088
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:20.760
can't think the other one.

1089
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:21.280
It was.

1090
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.440
Bluebook was the most recent of the bunch that we

1091
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:29.039
know of, and they were trying to basically discredit UFO

1092
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:31.880
sightings and while they were continuing to research them, right,

1093
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.519
and the Colins Elite were supposedly the sort of Christian

1094
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:38.679
religious folks who arguably, we're trying to understand what these

1095
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.039
occultists were doing. And Jack Parsons who called himself the Antichrist,

1096
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.320
so they're they're kind of worried about where these occultists

1097
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:51.119
were taking everything and where they summoning demons. And it's

1098
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.400
interesting because Louel A Zondo has been saying in the

1099
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.840
last few years giving interviews about how, yeah, there was

1100
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.320
this group of weird Christian folks and the DoD and

1101
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.440
the Pentagon, and they were stopping us from really, you know,

1102
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.800
digging deep into the phenomenon because they thought we were

1103
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.280
gonna bring Satan into the world hahaha. And I'm sure

1104
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:10.920
that's a reference to this Colony.

1105
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:12.360
League group, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1106
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.840
So I do think that, you know, I think that

1107
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.679
disclosure is part of the efforts that they're gonna have

1108
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.239
and I wouldn't be shocked by it, because like I

1109
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.199
used to do ghost hunting, and ghost hunting is what

1110
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:27.960
kind of opened my eyes to this idea of the

1111
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.800
of interdimensional entities because I was able to like make

1112
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:32.960
contact with all these ghosts and spirits and I was like, well,

1113
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:34.079
that's freaking weird.

1114
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.800
Again, Like, I'm not a good Christian.

1115
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.679
If you want a good Christian inspirational source, I'm not

1116
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:40.119
your guy.

1117
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:41.079
I'm terrible at that.

1118
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.320
But yeah, I do think that the alien agenda is

1119
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.719
part and parcel to all of this stuff going on

1120
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.800
and energy and various dimensions and so on.

1121
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:55.119
Right, Yeah, So how how would you like just kind

1122
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:59.079
of wrapping things up? How would you like more mainstream

1123
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.519
audiences to like can gauge with your work?

1124
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:05.239
Like, so I try to give I try to give

1125
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.599
them as many options as possible. I've been I've been

1126
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:11.119
torsed off of YouTube twice now and I'm trying to

1127
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.840
rebuild now for the third time. I try to be

1128
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.840
very careful with what I say and present on there,

1129
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:18.039
but that's to me, that's.

1130
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.000
The most effective medium.

1131
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.360
So it's it's on YouTube, it's at Occult Symbolism. It's

1132
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.800
basically my podcast but with the video version, and I

1133
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:29.400
show images of the topics I'm speaking about because I

1134
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.840
think it's easy to understand when you can see the image.

1135
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.159
But if some people are just podcast only people, they

1136
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.920
can do just the podcast the cult, symbolism and pop culture,

1137
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:39.719
and of course I've got like the Patreon supporter thing

1138
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:41.480
if people want to go ad free and unlock bonus

1139
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:42.840
content all that stuff.

1140
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:44.360
But for people we just want to check it out.

1141
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.440
I mean, I would probably recommend the YouTube because that's

1142
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:50.880
the best way to you know, digest the information, I

1143
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.239
would say, But then you know.

1144
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.039
Some people like the written, like to read, so I've got.

1145
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.400
Books on Amazon and Audible and you know, kind I

1146
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.159
try to be everywhere to sort of shotgun black ask

1147
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:01.360
the message out, but if.

1148
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.719
You know, the one, the one that.

1149
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:06.280
Probably works the best is the YouTube, at least while

1150
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:10.039
I'm still on there. Yeah for now, right for now,

1151
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:13.199
for now dot dot dot Yeah.

1152
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:17.679
So the one one last thing is I ask everybody what,

1153
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:21.280
since the name of this show is broadcasting seeds, what

1154
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.679
is a seed that you would like to plant in

1155
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:27.000
the audience's mind going forward.

1156
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:32.760
I would say that's a great question. I think that

1157
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.039
the big thing that I've been that I've learned that

1158
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:40.239
I understand is the the idea of symbolism and speaking

1159
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:44.199
to the subconscious. I think that that's the most important thing.

1160
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:48.199
So for instance, you know, I watch horror movies and

1161
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:52.159
listen to rap music and all these things that I'm

1162
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.559
like sitting here saying like, oh my gosh, they're they're

1163
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.119
they're speaking to your subconscious, they're trying to program you

1164
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.239
or whatever I'm trying to say, and people or like,

1165
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.039
then why are you still watching and listening to this stuff?

1166
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:04.760
And they're not wrong for thinking that.

1167
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.239
Like, for instance, if I listen too much rap music,

1168
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.440
I'll find myself like if I'm not in the mood

1169
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:10.559
to hear it that day, or it's put me in

1170
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:12.280
a weird mood, like I'll switch it over to like

1171
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.599
some you know, eighty love songs or something that like

1172
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.320
soften my Heart made me feel a little better.

1173
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.280
But it depends on what I'm trying to do.

1174
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:19.119
If I'm trying to go do CrossFit, like give me

1175
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:24.000
some high speed, aggressive stuff, right right. But my seed

1176
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.480
I would want to plant is that maybe just being

1177
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.639
cognizant of it could be enough. Right, Like, if I'm

1178
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:33.760
watching a movie and it's making me feel a certain way.

1179
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:36.440
I think just being aware that that's the purpose of

1180
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.920
instead of going to this sort of cancel culture thing

1181
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:40.960
of you know, like some of these people that get

1182
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.719
real overzealous about and I'm like, I'm always always.

1183
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.320
Say, what do you want to just watch movies about

1184
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.199
Bible stories? Like is that? Or listen to gospel hymns

1185
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:48.599
all day?

1186
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.000
Like we gotta give a place for artists to sort

1187
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.440
of present this stuff. And we being humans of having

1188
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.480
you know, brains in our head that God gave us

1189
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.119
like can sort of decipher and if and if maybe

1190
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.360
that maybe your person is too sensitive to and they're like, dude,

1191
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:04.599
I'm not watching any of this garbage.

1192
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.360
Like that's fine too, Like I'm okay with that, but

1193
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:07.440
like don't take that.

1194
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.760
Away from other people who maybe get into that stuff,

1195
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:12.159
you know what i mean. Like with rap music, like

1196
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:14.639
sometimes I like that. I like the message of like

1197
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:17.519
it helps me like get up and grind. Man. It's like,

1198
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.199
you know, of course they're pursuing like Rolex watches and

1199
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.280
you know, yeah the cars that I don't have any desire.

1200
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.719
I'm I'm more of like let's stack this bread and

1201
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.039
get it retired someday or going to vacation.

1202
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:29.119
Like that's like the extent for me.

1203
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.400
But but like you can, you can sort of alchemized

1204
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:34.760
sort of you can alchemize these messages to whatever you

1205
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.199
want it to be, right, and it's Yeah, I even

1206
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:42.159
if it's like meditation, right, like my priest one priest

1207
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.320
who was like not into it. The other priest was like,

1208
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.119
cause I meditate right for like anxiety depression stuff.

1209
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.119
Yeah. Same, And and as long as.

1210
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.679
You're like focused on like trying to got trying to

1211
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.440
focus on like communing with God and having God like

1212
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.559
send me the positive messages to like kind of call

1213
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.559
my mind. Uh, same with yoga. Like you, I think

1214
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.360
you could do most of these things if you're of

1215
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:03.480
sound mind to do it.

1216
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:03.840
I don't.

1217
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.559
There's probably some people that maybe they're more susceptible to

1218
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:07.320
things than they shouldn't.

1219
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.400
Maybe, I don't know, but it's a personal personal choice.

1220
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:13.039
I think I think that too many people have been

1221
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:16.880
taught to be sheep and that they have lost all

1222
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:22.599
the ability to think critically and use discernment. So I

1223
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.840
think that there there are people with gaping holes to this,

1224
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:29.239
to this bad energy.

1225
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.119
Yeah, discernments the right word there, I agree, that's that's yeah.

1226
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.519
And if you can't, if you can't discern whether or

1227
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.719
not you know I anyway, I don't want to get

1228
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:40.480
on my soapbucked.

1229
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:44.360
Yeah, but I feel you're probably probably coming out of

1230
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:45.159
the same approach ion.

1231
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:48.760
I'm sure, I'm sure it is. It's absolutely is. So again,

1232
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.840
one last time, tell everybody where they can find you.

1233
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:53.719
I'm all over the internet.

1234
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.119
Just go to my link tree, all my links, dot com,

1235
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.400
slash isaac W that's I S A A C.

1236
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:03.320
You. If you're on YouTube, be sure to subscribe over there.

1237
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:06.199
I've got an ostentatious goal to get my numbers back

1238
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:07.760
up to where it was when my first channel got

1239
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.719
towards so at a cult symbolism on there, be sure

1240
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:12.880
to subscribe and hit the bell and all that stuff.

1241
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:14.719
Thanks for having me back, thanks for having me a

1242
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:15.920
better appreciate.

1243
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.880
You, absolutely man, and uh, at some point we'll do

1244
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:22.079
it again, you know, for sure. An invitation if you

1245
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.440
ever have something that you want to come on and okay,

1246
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:26.760
do some shameless product placement.

1247
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.840
I always I'm always drifted, man, I've always got something

1248
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:30.239
to sell.

1249
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:33.559
I'm replaced, brother, all right, Yeah, I appreciate it, thank you.

1250
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.440
Ye absolutely like.

1251
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:37.199
The whole world running on a script.

1252
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:43.519
Yeah, broadcasts and seas, let's go.

1253
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.199
I came upon the truth and astatic and noise, rabbit

1254
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:47.840
host deep.

1255
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.400
Now I'm back with a choice red pil.

1256
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.880
Bit of But it's shop in the sight now peeping

1257
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:56.119
those shadows that was hitting the light faste drop, but

1258
01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:59.159
they were dat the truth half the name's golf still

1259
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.400
a crack in the police circles. Move where the cameras

1260
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.000
don't go. While they programmed your mind through the screens.

1261
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.920
You scroll in case crips in the back of your

1262
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.039
head while they feed you fair just to keep you misled.

1263
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.519
Bread and circuses keep the masses asleep while the wolves

1264
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:15.880
in suits run a game.

1265
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:16.280
From the deep.

1266
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.079
I ain't paring, Lord, I just learned how to see.

1267
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:21.800
Every symbol got a message if you learn how to read.

1268
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:24.000
From the stage to the screen, from the booth to

1269
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.159
the throne. They be speaking to your soul, but you

1270
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.719
thought it was your own. It's hitting in the signal

1271
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.000
buried in the sam Yeah, troots don't die. Just circle

1272
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:34.679
back of ramp. They don't got alive. They show you

1273
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.519
we're playing you just gotta see through the layers of

1274
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.719
the game and in the signal code it in the art,

1275
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.079
they be talking to your mind.

1276
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:43.400
Now they reach it for your heart.

1277
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.280
Once you see the paddy, you can't go back. Now

1278
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:49.719
you're walking through the fire with the world off track coat.

1279
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:50.199
In the open.

1280
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.400
They don't even hide it, They just mask it in

1281
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.840
the rhythm, so the masters can't find the super Bowl

1282
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.239
stage looking more like the right half the crowd chievers,

1283
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.880
half blinded body lights in the geen harvest, fearing the

1284
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:04.360
air turned pain in the power. That's the game that

1285
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.000
they play, from the isle of files to the suits

1286
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.280
in the room. It's the same dark kermit, just a

1287
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.760
different costume. They talk a I like it's saving the race,

1288
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.159
but they look more like the throne. They preparing the

1289
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.039
place digital change, dressed up back control while they promise

1290
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:20.800
you the future, but they taxing your.

1291
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:22.400
Soul in the dimensional.

1292
01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:24.719
Maybe that's the play, not from the stars, but the

1293
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.119
veiling between where they stay old world knowledge with the

1294
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.440
new world faced, same war, different battlefield.

1295
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:31.800
Same chase.

1296
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.239
It's heating in the signal buried in the sand. Troops

1297
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:36.880
don't die the circle.

1298
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:37.159
Back of ram.

1299
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.280
They don't got alive. They show you when playing. You

1300
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.320
just gotta seek through the layers of the gang. In

1301
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.920
the signal code it in the art. They've been talking

1302
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.440
to your mind. Now they reaching for your heart. Once

1303
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:49.679
you see the pattern, you.

1304
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:50.559
Can't go back.

1305
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.400
Now you walking through the fire with the world off trackon.

1306
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:55.400
But hold up, it.

1307
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.719
Ain't all doom and glowing the sermon in your spirit.

1308
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.320
That's the light in the room. They can't take you. Well,

1309
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.000
if you know who you are, even in the dark,

1310
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.400
you could still see the stars. You had the system

1311
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.679
d you had a game run COVID. Truth hit different.

1312
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:10.719
When they live in your soul. They could twist the

1313
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:14.000
narrative being what they say, but they can't kill truth.

1314
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:15.280
It's just finding new way.

1315
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:17.960
So I plant these seas, let them grow where they land.

1316
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.639
Some gonna wake up, Some won't understand.

1317
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:22.159
That's the balance of the field.

1318
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:23.280
That's the cost of the fight.

1319
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.119
Some stay asleep. Some step into the light.

1320
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:36.679
Yeah see it now you don't eat a way.

1321
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:37.039
So ready it is

1322
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:41.519
Broadcast the seeds