March 19, 2026

Pre-Trib, Post-Trib, or No One Knows? Lauren Carone Breaks It Down

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The End Times & Biblical Prophecy: Insights with Lauren Carone Explore the depths of biblical prophecy, the rapture, and the signs heralding the end times through the perspective of Lauren Carone, host of Certainty for Uncertain Times. If you're curious about what scripture says about the tribulation, second coming, and the global events indicating Christ's return, this episode is for you.

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Calear.

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We are marching up to the time of the tribulation,

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so really doesn't matter when we all think we're going

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to get out of here. What matters is that we

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unify together and go, Hey, the world is rapidly approaching

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this time period that's talked about in revelation, and if

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you don't get this right, it's gonna get real bad

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for you.

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The Broadcast STA Seeds, Broadcast They Seeds and Truth in

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the Minds of the People.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds.

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I'm your host, Benattantan, and today we have a special guest,

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Lauren Corone. I say it right, I gotta say it right.

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So Lauren, tell us who you are, what you do,

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and where people what's the place you want to send

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people to find you.

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Yeah?

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Absolutely, Well, First of all, thank you for contacting me

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and having me come on here. I love getting the

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chance to sit down and be the interviewee at times

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versus the interviewer, So thank you. But yes, my name

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is Lauren Corone. You pronounced it right, and my YouTube

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channel is certainty for uncertain times, that's the best place

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for people to go and find me. All of the

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ways to connect with me, whether you want to follow

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me on social media or you want to join my

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newsletter or download some of the PDFs I've made that

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are like cheat sheets for people kind of be up

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in the know on how things work. All that stuff

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is found through YouTube and the description boxes, all that

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good stuff. So that's probably the best place, and that's

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YouTube is with the majority of where I spend my time,

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other than when I get a wild hair and decide

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to do a story yelling on Instagram about something that's

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going on in that that's typically where people can find me.

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Is definitely YouTube, gotcha?

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So first question I ask every guest is what got

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you into this world of just I mean, I've watched

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a bunch of your podcast and you stay in the

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biblical realm for the most part, but there's crossover and everything.

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Like I always say, everything rhymes, so you know, paranormal

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supernatural stuff gets mixed. So what that being said, what

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is your gateway to this whole crazy world and what

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got you into this? You know, younger, in your younger years,

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I would say.

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Yeah, Well, I think for a lot of people, I

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don't know if my story is a whole lot different

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than most people who go, hey, I was, you know,

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in the know on some things, but highly cognitively dissonant

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on other things. And twenty two twenty really woke me

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up to the truth of what was going on. That

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was when I started to just go, you know, something

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ain't right here, you know, And so that was really,

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I would say, the gateway, the doorway that led me

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into just really feeling within my spirit that the Lord's

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return is near, and it's a lot nearer than people

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think now. If you'd ask me back then, I thought

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the rapture was gonna happen in twenty twenty.

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I was wrong. This is why we don't date set.

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But regardless, ye, I'm always looking in a listening for

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that trumpet sound, and so now I'm looking at everything going, well, Lord,

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if you don't return soon, I don't know what to

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make of what's going on.

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But twenty twenty definitely was that gateway for me.

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That's what led me down the roads of Bible prophecy,

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because I was trying to figure out, like, what in

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the world is going on, the things that are happening

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right now. This is about more than politics. This is

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about more than you know, what's on the surface. This

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is just there's more than just the horizontal here.

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There's a vertical narrative going on.

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With the fact that you know, I was just really

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trying to figure out the world is changing before our eyes,

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and I don't think it's going to go back to

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this pre twenty twenty, so we got to figure out

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how to navigate that. So there's a whole lot there.

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But I would say that is probably the best answer

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that I can give you. Much like a lot of people,

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I woke up to the the world's an entire lie

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in twenty twenty.

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Yeah, that sentiment is well well set across our entire job, right, yep,

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for sure. So all right, so I do have some

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folks that listen to my show that for people who

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have never heard the term before, so we're kind of

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I had told you that I wanted to talk about

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tribulation and specifically pre trip, right, Yeah, But for people

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who have never heard the term before, what exactly is

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the tribulation before we even get into the rapture part? Sure,

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what is what is the tribulation? In a plane language?

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Plain language? The best way for people to understand that. Well,

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first of all, you have tribulation and then you have

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the Great Tribulation, So there's some confusion there. The Great

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tribulation is what happens three and a half years into

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the tribulation and the tribulation. The best way to understand

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that is going to be to look at it as

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Daniel's seventieth week. If you go back to your old Testament,

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you get into Daniel Mine. Daniel nine versus twenty four

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through twenty seven are going to describe a time period.

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Of course, it's it's talking about the first advent of

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Jesus when he came writing in on a donkey, and

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then if you go in and read further, you see

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that there's this time period that's being talked about. There's

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some math involved that's really fun to go through if

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you like to geek out on that kind of stuff,

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and if you're like me and suck at math. The

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great thing is is there are books out there by

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people like Sir Robert Anderson, and I think Harold Hohner

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also has a book on that too.

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Because the dates are a little different.

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From the people thirty two yeah, exactly, thirty two eighty

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to thirty three eighty, just depending on new Land. But

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in saying that that that is a seven year mile

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marker of time, and that purpose of time is going

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to do three things. Just so it said to people know,

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the most important part to know about the Tribulation is

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a it is not for the church.

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It is not for the church age. It is actually to.

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Bring Israel, Israel back to the Lord, and it is

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to bring them to repentance and help them to understand

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that they miss their Messiah the first time.

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It is a judgment on Israel.

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Now, does that mean that Gentiles, Greeks, whatever you want

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to call us who are not Jewish are going to

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suffer in that time? It absolutely does, unless you are

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a member of the Body of Christ now prior to

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the rapture.

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Which we can get into.

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But the second thing that that does is during that

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time of Tribulation, there is going to be the most

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massive revival that has ever occurred on the earth. In fact,

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it's so large the Bible doesn't even put a number

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on it. It's the most amazing thing to know that

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there's this time where so many people are going to

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come to saving faith and believe in Jesus during that

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time period. It would make sense because if you read

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the Book of Revelation. You see how horrific this time

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period is going to be. People are going to be

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looking for answers to that. And then the last thing

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that it does is it's going to bring an end

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to wickedness in the world.

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And I think no matter where somebody lands on what.

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They believe right now, whoever you have in your audience,

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I think we can all agree that there is a

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whole lot of wickedness going on in the world and

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it is a ramping up big time, and especially with

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the things that we've seen just even released over the

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last couple of weeks, that some of us have known

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for a long time, and now the general public is going,

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oh my gosh, this stuff is really true.

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So yes, awesome, perfect Now transition this slight bent to

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what is the rapture?

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Yeah, so the rapture is known as our Blessed Hope.

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And for again your viewers, there's really three camps, well

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only four you can kind of sit in. You have

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your pre trib folks, which, as I am, I am

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unapologetically pre tribulation, believing that the church is to be

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snatched out literally. The word rapture comes from the term harpazzo,

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and harp means to be violently snatched like it's it's

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a ripping out. So, uh, we've kind of talked about

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different ways to give this an analogy, but think of like,

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if you had a kid and your kid is running

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out in the street and there's two cars coming that

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are gonna collide and hit your kid, You're gonna run

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out and rip that kid. You don't care if you

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hurt that kid. You're gonna pull that kid out of

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that traffic. That's kind of what the rapture. That's what

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harpozzo means, the violent violent snatching out. Harpoon is another

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way to look at it. But you also have your

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mid trippers, and then you have which means that they

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believe that the rapture occurs in the middle of the tribulation.

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I think it's sometime before the Antichrist goes in and

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desolates the temple, and then you have your post close

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to that somewhere around in there. Then you have your

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post trippers, and they believe that the church is going

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to be here to suffer through the entire seven years

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and won't be raptured out until it's over. Pre wrath

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is somewhere in that sixth seal opening in the in

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the book Revelation, and that's really your your views there

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with where you can land on the on the rapture term.

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But that's really what it is.

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Okay, So where does I guess I'm trying to think

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of the best way to describe this. Where does this

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idea actually come from? Is it clearly biblical or is

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it more of like a theological framework built over time.

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Well, I think it's clearly biblical. There's a lot now,

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can you can you just point to one verse and

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go the pre trip rapture is here? No, but you

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can't point to one verse and actually talk that the

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Trinity is there.

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But the Trinity is is all throughout the Bible.

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There's so many other other examples that we could use,

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but the Trinity is just an easy one because everyone

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believes that Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Right, But you do

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have some verses that are really clear on that, especially

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when you read them in context.

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And I have some of my favorites.

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If you want me to share this absolutely, okay, Yeah,

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well so Revelation three ten and in fact, let me

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just open this up because I keep these kind of

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handsy for people when I get asked about it, just

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so they have a reference point. But Revelation three ten

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is probably I would say, if you wanted to have

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like a we'll call it a proof verse, a proof text. Right.

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So this is obviously in the chapter three of Revelation,

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and it's talking to you know, this is the first

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part of Revelation where the Bible.

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Is going over.

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John is getting these visions of the churches, right, and

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so Revelation three ten is all about, you know, the

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dead Church. Okay, So this is like if you go

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back into history, it's kind of cool how this mirrors

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the Reformation and the Great Awakening, so during that time

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of like fifteen seventeen to seven fifty eighty.

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Pretty cool.

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But anyway, during the tenth verse or in the tenth verse,

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it says, because you have kept my command to persevere,

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I will I also will keep you from the hour

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of trial, which shall come upon the whole world to

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test those who dwell on the earth. So the couple

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of things that people should know. First of all, we're

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not earth dwellers. This is our We all know this,

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like we're just so journals, we're just passing through. This

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is not our home. Second to that, it says to

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keep you from the hour of trial. Does it mean

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to keep you through? This is where the arguments come in.

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still be here but will be kept for it. No,

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the amount of death that occurs, there's no way that

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is possible. So it's to it. Yes, it is very wild.

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going to be upon the whole world right. And then

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another another verses verst Thessalonians five two, which is one

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of my favorites, says, well, it's it's first Thessalonians four.

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about the rapture, first Thessalonians four sixteen through seventeen, it

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actually talks about let me let me just read it.

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Okay, let's see.

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So, but I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren,

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concerning those who have fallen asleep. So those who are dead,

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lest you sorrow others who have no hope. For if

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we believe that Jesus died and rose again. Even so

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God will bring with him who sleep in Jesus, in

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other words, those who have died and gone before us.

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of the Lord. For we who are alive and remain

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until the of the Lord will by no means foresee

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those who are asleep. So we who alive and remain

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will not go up before those who are in the ground.

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from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel,

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and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in

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Christ shall remain or will rise first. Then we who

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are alive and remain shall be caught up together with

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them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

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And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore,

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comfort one another with these words. So my thought is, well,

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if we had to endure some kind of like awful

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revelation style world right during that time, I don't know

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how comforting that would be for me to know that

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most likely I'm gonna die during that time. My all right,

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you know there's gonna be a few that get out, right,

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because you know, we have to populate the millennium. But

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in saying that, I think it would be very scary.

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where it talks about we are not made for God's wrath.

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people think about, especially if they are in the tense

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of thinking that we have a mid trip, post trip

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or pre wrath, is that either Jesus died on the

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cross and his like the wrath of God that was

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poured out on Jesus was enough, or it wasn't, because

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it cannot be both. And so that is the main

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the Church who have accepted Jesus in this time to

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go yeah, No, I want to be on that team.

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I believe he died for me. I believe he paid

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the penalty for my sins. I want to be on

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that team if I think that I've got to go

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through wrath, God's wrath, because the tribulation time is going

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to be the most horrendous time on this earth. Jesus

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talked about it in the Book of Matthew. Clearly, you

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can read the Book of Revelation and see none of

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that has happened, yet it is to come. I just

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don't think those two things make sense. So that's a

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couple verses. And then one of my other favorites is

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John fourteen one through three. If anyone ever used to

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watch Sean Hannity, you might remember he used to quote

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this about you know, for in this world you will

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have trouble, right, but fear not, because I've overcome the world.

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because Jesus says I'm going to go away.

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I'm going to.

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Prepare a place for you, but I will come back

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to get you, and I will take you to be

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with me. So when does he do that? And where

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is that place? And so that's where I'm kind of

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So I would say the strongest ones for me are

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John fourteen three and then Revelation three ten. So hopefully

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that answers your question a little. I know it's kind

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of in depth there with scripture, but you know, hey, I.

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Know that one no, but one that I have always

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seen as well as one Corinthians fifteen fifty one through

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absolutely fifty two as well.

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Viable, you know.

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And very much so.

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So So with with that being said, though, how do

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you interpret the difference between the rapture and the Second Coming?

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I'm just I'm trying to be the devil's advocate here.

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Oh yeah, well we'll talk about some of.

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This stuff later, but that's definitely a devil's advocate question.

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So yeah, no, that's great. So I have this comparison

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sheet that I made. Let me see if I can,

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and I actually have like people can access this on

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my channel. You can have a link that you can

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get this from. So what is the difference between the

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raption and second Coming? So Christ comes in the air,

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that's the first thing. We just read that in First

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Thessalonians four sixteen through seventeen. And when you look at

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the second coming in Zachariah chapter fourteen versus four, he

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comes to the earth like his feet touched down on

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the mouth of olives. So the error and olives are

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two different things, right. So in First Thessalonians four sixteen,

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this only affects believers, right, And then in Revelation nineteen

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fifteen when he comes back, this is going to affect

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both believers and unbelievers, because the believers who have become

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Christians after the rapture, they're going to whoever has survived

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that tribulation, because you are going to have both unbelievers

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and believers who do somehow, by the grace of God,

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make it through that time. But when Jesus comes back

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in Revelation nineteen, both the belief and unbelievers there on

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the earth are going to see that. In for Thessalonians,

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Jesus is coming and blessing, and in Revelation nineteen fifteen

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he'd becoming. In some judgment, there's a very big difference

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between the two. The rapture is imminent, so that's Titus

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two thirteen, and then the second coming is after the tribulation.

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visible through the whole world. It's in appearing right now.

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This is where people go, oh, there's a secret rapture. No,

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it's not a secret rapture. It's just stating that he's

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coming for his bride, not coming for the whole world.

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coming for his saints. In for Thessalonians, if you read

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Revelation nineteen fourteen, he's coming with his saints.

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The folks on the white horses and the fine linens

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are us big. I mean, these are all like things

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that people can just read and go, yes, this is

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very different. The Rapture is about a resurrection, right for

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those that are here, we get our glorified bodies. Not

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at that, not when he comes back to the Second Coming,

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that's not about resurrection. In First Thessalonians, it's a rescue

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of the Church. In the Second Coming, it's a rescue

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of Israel. So again, this is why it's really important

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to understand those distinctions between Israel and the Church, regardless

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of the politics around Israel. We could go there. In

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First Thessalonians, he's announced by an archangel, and then you know,

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in the Second Coming he's announced and involves multitudes of

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angels like there's you can see that clearly. At the Rapture,

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you've got the reward ceremony, the bmacy or bamacy, depending

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on how you pronounce it, of believers. And then the

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Second Coming is a judgment of the nations and a

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couple more so, Satan is running the Earth at the

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time of the Rapture ollo New World Order B system,

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b's kingdom, anybody seeing that setup right now, and then

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Satan is actually bound for a thousand years after the

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So it's a big difference between that.

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The Rapture sets the stage for the anti Christ and

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then the defeat of the anti Christ happens at the

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end of the Second Coming. Rapture precedes the Messianic reigns

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that millennial time, that thousand year millennium that we've yet

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to see Christ ruling as a literal king on this earth,

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and the Second Coming initiates the Messianic reign. So and

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then the marriage up or the Lamb occurs that you

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know in that Rapture time, and then the Second Coming

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is followed by Jesus reign on the Earth. So there's

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some things for people to kind of look at just

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to know the difference there.

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There's really a kind of an exhaustage list, but those

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Absolutely, yeah, So another argument that you'll hear some people

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argue the pre trip view didn't exist before the eighteen hundreds.

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How do we address that historical claim?

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Yeah, so I have an entire series debunking the myth

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that is centered around John Darby. I can send that

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link to if people want to watch that, But simply put,

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it's not true.

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It's false.

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You can go through all of church history. So that

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is exactly what I did that entire series. I walked

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through the entirety of church history from like the DITTIKEI

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all the way before John Darby and presented evidence that

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there were plenty of church fathers. There were plenty of

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folks in that time. I know they all have different

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names for whether it was a pastor or a historian,

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or a theologian, whatever, insert whatever title you want. This

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idea of rescue before wrath was and has always been around.

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First of all, it's in the Bible, but secondly it

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has always been around. Now systematizing it, John Darby did

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have a lot to do with that, I don't have

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any problem with that. There's plenty of doctrines out there

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that were kind of fuzzy and it took years for

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them to actually get systematized and put together.

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You can go through church history and.

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See that and I don't want this to sound mean

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to anybody, but what I typically say is when somebody

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comes at me with that argument, I can tell how

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little they have actually researched this. They mainly have probably

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listened to someone who can't stand the pre chub rapture

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view or who hates people who believe that God's plan

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unfolds through the ages aka dispensationalism, which apparently is a

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dirty word now too.

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I know, man, I know it's so bad.

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But usually when somebody comes at me with that, I'm

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not going to give you the time today. And and

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I don't mean to be rude when I say that,

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but it's simply just that if that's where you're at,

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then you haven't even taken five minutes to actually vet

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and see if that's true.

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And you can do that in five Yeah.

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That's why I approached it the way I asked it,

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because I know you don't believe that.

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You can ask away. Yeah, sure, Now what.

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Are there things like? What do you think post trip

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and pre trip believers? Get right?

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Are the man? Yes? And this is why you know

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I've been talking because.

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There's so much contention around all this, right, and there

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is Unfortunately it plays to our and I think it's

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on purpose. Uh, I think it plays to our tribal nature.

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So in turn, we want to be in camps, right

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instead of the camp, we want to be in our

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own camps or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

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So yeah, I do. I do.

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And here's the thing.

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I loathe labels because I don't really I'm not a

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labels girl. Like there's things that you know, people would say, oh,

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that's a dispensational belief, but then I don't hold that

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dispensational belief.

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Or even know what I'm saying, like.

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Yeah, you know it's yeah, it's just like listen, I'm

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just a Biblicist and if it's in here, that's kind

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of where I'm going to land. And I know everybody's

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gonna say that. But this is also why I'm very

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confident in my theology, because I feel like I can

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go toe to toe with it like I got here

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because I went and studied all the views. I got

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here because I needed to figure out what answers the

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most questions, where are all the holes at in all

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of the theologies, and whose theology answers the most questions.

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That's how I got here.

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But in saying that, yes, I have so much in

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common with people who are mid trip, post trip, pre wrath.

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And I mentioned this last Friday on my live stream

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because I have people that follow up channel that are

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mid tribe, pre wrath, post tribe. And my big thing

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is is, like, y'all, you have eyes to see and

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ears to hear, just like I do. You're looking at

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00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.359
your window, you're seeing stuff on the internet. It is

468
00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.720
clear we are marching up to the time of the tribulation.

469
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.200
So really doesn't matter when we all think we're gonna

470
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.960
get out of here. What matters is that we unify

471
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.200
together and go, hey, the world is rapidly approaching this

472
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.039
time period that's talked about in revelation, and if you

473
00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:31.359
don't get this right, it's gonna get real bad for you.

474
00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:33.880
And so I think that that's the place if we

475
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.720
can get to that place together. Like, I have no

476
00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.319
problems with people being pre post trib, mid trib, pre wrath.

477
00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.440
If they link arms with me, I don't care as

478
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.200
long as I'm not being called a heretic or a

479
00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.319
false teacher because I'm a pre trib girl.

480
00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:49.960
Have had people do that to me don't. I don't care.

481
00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:51.960
I really don't care, because my thing is is like, hey,

482
00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.880
you know what, you're a watchman or a watchwoman on

483
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.799
the wall. Can we just put a pin in when

484
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.680
we think the rapture is going to occur? And can

485
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.519
we just unify to a the world that things are

486
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:03.799
getting really bad. You've got a temple being ready to

487
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:06.880
be built over there in Israel. You've got cowls that

488
00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:09.200
they haven't had in two thousand years that are ready

489
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:12.400
to go for that. You've got clearly the b system

490
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:16.319
forming in every nook and cranny of our society. We've

491
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:19.680
got you know, elitists getting away with everything, and it

492
00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.839
looks just like Canaanites did all those years ago, and

493
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.799
now it's in your face. I mean, it's just it's countless.

494
00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.160
I've never seen convergence the way that we're seeing it now.

495
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.079
Hence twenty twenty and the snowball that started down a

496
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.480
hill then and where it's at now and where it's going.

497
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.960
Yeah, I've seen this. I see this argument more as

498
00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.920
a and I say argument, it's more of it like

499
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:47.039
a It's a secondary doctrinal debate versus an actual salvation issue. Right, Yeah,

500
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.640
and I just want people to understand first world problems

501
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.480
right to an extent. And I feel like this is

502
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:58.359
what causes this right and instead of just focusing on

503
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:02.519
salvation in general, that people want to be right more

504
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:08.880
than they you know what I mean. So because I

505
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:10.400
I think maybe this is a good time to bring

506
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:15.559
it in. But actually the give me the biggest misunderstandings

507
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.799
people have about pre the pre trim position in your.

508
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.400
View, Yeah, so I think the biggest misunderstanding is probably

509
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:28.200
a few, but one is simply that we haven't read

510
00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.519
Matthew or talks about I will come at the end

511
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.640
of the tribulation, Like, guys, come on, man, like you

512
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.319
think I haven't.

513
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.440
Yes, this is about one event, not too blah blah blah.

514
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:41.960
This that yes, Okay, there's.

515
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.000
So many different areas of the Bible. People always give

516
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:46.960
me the well, you know, we live here in the

517
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:48.920
Western world. This is a Western invention, don't you know

518
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.079
Christians are suffering over and other other areas of the world. Yes,

519
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.839
it's been happening for well over two thousand years. I'm

520
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.119
not I'm not dumb, like I mean, I know that

521
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.200
like it's not and they think it's escapism and I'm like, oh, hey,

522
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.240
it's it is escapism, I.

523
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:03.880
Suppose in one sense, because.

524
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.400
We're we're going to be able to to be not

525
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.799
a part of this time. But it's not because our

526
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.960
loving father has said, hey, you chose me, and I

527
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:16.160
got to release all this raft to make the world right.

528
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.440
I'm not going to put you through it. So I don't,

529
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.039
I don't, I don't know. I think that's probably a

530
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.559
big misconception. And then the secret rapture part, because that's

531
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.200
not that's not the doctor. I'm like, there's no one

532
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.400
that's ever talked about a secret rapture, Like, I don't know. Yeah,

533
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:30.920
is that.

534
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:35.440
Movie or a show? Do you remember? Wasn't there a

535
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.240
show where people just disappeared?

536
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:43.839
Well there's been several there's Oh then no, I wouldn't know.

537
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.400
Gosh, I can't remember. It doesn't matter.

538
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.319
There's loads of shows like that though, that are not

539
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.000
from the occult, because they recognize that there's this time

540
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.559
coming that people are going to be zapped out. Yeah.

541
00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:00.960
So I had a dream mm hmmm that Martin Luther King.

542
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:02.079
I was gonna say, did you?

543
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:09.759
But I had a dream, And I can't give you

544
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.039
specifics about when because I don't know. I can't say

545
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.279
I was pre Trevor or mid Trivor or whatever. But

546
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:21.880
I was not raptured. And I'm as I'm as big

547
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.759
a believer as anyone, right, and and all the things

548
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:29.839
and all the stuff. But I was told that I

549
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:37.440
was meant to stay and help save people. You know,

550
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.440
people hear that and they're like, oh my gosh, what

551
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:45.119
do you mean? And so, And I can't tell you

552
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.000
if it was like because I could see, I saw

553
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.079
the rapture. I saw it, but I can't tell you

554
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.759
when it happened, right, So I can't tell you that.

555
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:58.079
But I was told that I'm not involved, at least

556
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:05.359
not initially, right. What do you say to that, Well, I.

557
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:09.160
Would simply say that, you know, I fully believe that

558
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.720
the Lord can speak to people through dreams. My sister

559
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.759
in law was actually saved through a dream, and it's honestly,

560
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.279
it's happening all over the world, especially in Muslim nations

561
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:20.880
where Jesus is showing up in dreams.

562
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.839
Those stories are amazing.

563
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.559
They really are amazing, and there's so much similarity. But

564
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:27.960
the other thing that I would say, too, is that

565
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.000
we can't always put stock in dreams. I mean, I've

566
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.920
had some really messed up dreams before, right, But what

567
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.599
I would say when somebody has a dream like that

568
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:37.799
is go to scripture and see does it affirm? Does

569
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.839
it affirm what you? You know what I'm saying, because

570
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.079
the bottom line is is that the Bible is so clear,

571
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.200
like if if you have believed on Jesus for your

572
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.519
salvation and you're one of God's children, because you've passed

573
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.680
from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of light

574
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.400
in that salvation experience, you ain't gonna be here like

575
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.319
it really is that clear. So I would say that

576
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.920
because mine he got saved not too long ago. He

577
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.799
was an agnostic and an atheist for forty one years,

578
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.000
got saved around the eclipse, and I remember him telling

579
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.480
me that, you know, he wanted to be here for

580
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:13.880
you know, He's like, I think I'm supposed to be

581
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:15.720
here to help save people. For the tribulation. I said,

582
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.400
I can assure you, I know we're all tough, but

583
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.000
I can assure you that no, you don't, because it's

584
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.359
gonna be you know, it's gonna be madness, and who knows,

585
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.960
it could be something too. One of the callings that

586
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.440
my husband and I have on our lives is that.

587
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.440
And I know there's a lot of people that are

588
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.680
that also would affirm what I'm about to say. Most

589
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.440
of us are trying to get our homes ready, to

590
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.319
get things ready because our home is going to be needed.

591
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.519
And maybe maybe that picture of like you not going

592
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.480
up in the rapture was a miss, but there might

593
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.599
be a message behind the Hey, you're supposed to help people,

594
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.680
and maybe that's how maybe it's like, well, hey, God,

595
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.000
what does that get you?

596
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.839
No, no, I do. I was going to expand I've

597
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:02.119
got So it's it's basically like a commissioning, is the

598
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.240
way that I've interpreted it, and when I've dug into

599
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:11.039
it that you know, I'm a I'm a military guy.

600
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.400
I've been a servant in that sense my entire life.

601
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:20.920
So and I'm not saying I'm supposed to fight, but

602
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.480
I'm supposed to fight, but not in the traditional war

603
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:29.720
fighter way, and that's what it's about. It doesn't mean

604
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.839
that i won't be okay in the end, but I'm

605
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.759
gonna have to deal with some stuff in between.

606
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.559
So well, I think that that's the other thing too,

607
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.680
Like when going back to the escapism saying people, you

608
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.880
know kind of think that I don't know of a

609
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.200
pre tribe person out or who thinks that some kind

610
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.440
of persecution and some kind of like oh yeah, underground

611
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.039
church living may not happen here in the United States.

612
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.680
Because I'm gonna tell you something, I firmly see that coming.

613
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.720
I mean, seriously, it can't. If you ignore that, I

614
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.079
think you're in for a rout awakening. And I think people,

615
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.240
I think this is what a lot of people that

616
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:15.079
are post trib and mid trib folks think that just

617
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.400
because somebody's pre trib that they aren't. They're like, oh, well,

618
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:22.279
I don't have to worry about any of this because

619
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.519
I'm gonna get whisked away before any of the trouble starts.

620
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.119
I don't think that's true at all. And I know

621
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.960
a lot of folks that I mean, the mantra to

622
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.319
me that I put out is be ready, be faithful,

623
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.480
and help people. And I think you're right there with

624
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:39.960
that too.

625
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.119
So I think it's a percent And I typically hear

626
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:50.680
people they'll quote John sixteen, Hey it's thirty three. Yeah,

627
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.759
see these things I've spoken to you that in me

628
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.319
you have made. You may have peace in the world,

629
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.680
you will have tribulations. So people quote that to me

630
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.200
all the time time as being like, see, you're going

631
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.400
to go through a tribulation, but be of good cheer.

632
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.880
I have overcome the world. Well, you have to really

633
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:09.359
go and define what does the word tribulation mean? Yeah,

634
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.440
because I can look at you and say I've had

635
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:16.039
tribulation in my life since birth. I have, but that

636
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.880
does not mean I am going through the tribulation. There's

637
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.359
a very big difference between having trials and tribulation and

638
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.079
the time of Jacob's trouble, the hour of trial that

639
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.759
is coming upon the whole world. So again, this is

640
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.799
why hermoneutics really matter, and getting into the word studies

641
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.799
of like what do these things mean in the Greek?

642
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:35.440
What do you know?

643
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.400
What is the original language here? What is the intent

644
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.200
of the author? What else does the author of this

645
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:42.640
book talk about? Is is there any conflicting things? That's

646
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.480
how you can kind of figure out where it's going.

647
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:45.920
So but yeah, hopefully that helps.

648
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:51.400
Yeah, absolutely, So give us some global events right now

649
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.359
that that that you think are make people more open

650
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.160
to the idea of the pre triber rapture.

651
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.599
I don't know if it makes feel more open to

652
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.440
the idea of the pre trip rapture. My hope is

653
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.480
that it makes people more open to the fact that

654
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.279
we are marching up to the time of the tribulation,

655
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.000
the technocracy that is forming right before our eyes. I

656
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:17.000
think Trump is actually in the boat of pushing like

657
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:21.240
the Technique map where the Western technique map. Okay, I

658
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.680
think we're seeing the ten nations coming together and the

659
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.240
Antichrist rises out of those ten kings, and I think

660
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:28.200
that is happening right now.

661
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:29.480
That's a big global piece for me.

662
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.200
Obviously for me, I'm always watching what is going on

663
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.799
in Israel and seeing, you know, because dude, they got

664
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.880
rabbis over there that are like, hey, we are ready.

665
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.559
Then we know the Messiah, Oh he's here there.

666
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.440
I've done so much stuff with the Red Haffer that like, yeah,

667
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.960
it's it's on right exactly exactly.

668
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.640
That in and of itself, the fact that you know,

669
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.720
there are actually people out there that I talked to

670
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.759
before that said there's never going to be a third Temple,

671
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.319
And it's laughable to me because now I just want

672
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.079
to afford them new.

673
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.319
Headlines and be like, what do you make of this,

674
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:01.720
what do you make it?

675
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.640
You know what I mean. So that's another thing that

676
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.680
I feel like is a big deal. And then just

677
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.519
the way that I think lawlessness is one of the

678
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:15.240
biggest biggest pushers for me, and that it's so out

679
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.440
in the open used to you know, And I'm a

680
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.680
I grewup in the nineties, so that was my era,

681
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.160
so we had lawlessness then, and I remember my parents

682
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.119
hate an MTV and all that kind of stuff because

683
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.240
it was teaching rebellion and right, okay, but that is

684
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.680
a cake walk compared to what we have now and

685
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.480
the amount of lawlessness that is happening at Waldie levels.

686
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.400
Right, we have people.

687
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.119
Getting away with things that I can't we don't even

688
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.759
want to go into talking about because it's it's such

689
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.599
an atrocity and everyone knows it's true. So I think

690
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.480
those are just some of the things. I also think

691
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.519
that the Earth is groaning, regardless of what people think

692
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.240
about geoengineering or whatnot. I think it's a combination of

693
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.960
two things. I think that the Earth is physically groaning,

694
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.200
and I think man is trying to play god, and

695
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.599
I think both of those things together are sign of

696
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.199
the times. So for me, I am you know, I'm

697
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.639
just kind of watching how things are going. I know

698
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:12.400
that the Bible tells me that when they say peace

699
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.840
and safety, sudden destruction comes upon them. And we're seeing

700
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.079
that at every term we see, you know, there's so

701
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:24.880
much chaos happening, orchestrated chaos that I think that even

702
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.320
just what's happened with Epstein is part of that orchestrated

703
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.039
chaos because they all want a global leader.

704
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.440
So if we can just create.

705
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.639
As much chaos as we can, these people will do

706
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.679
exactly what they did in twenty twenty and.

707
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.400
Go just get us normal again.

708
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:38.639
We'll do whatever you want.

709
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.679
Yeah, I think that's coming.

710
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.239
And the scary part about the Epstein stuff is they've

711
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:45.440
only released half of it.

712
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.039
Oh dude, I know, I know, so like.

713
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.320
What do you mean? Like yeah, and how much of

714
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.960
it was actually redacted? It's just insane. But anyway it is.

715
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:03.280
How do you guard again and fear based end times teaching?

716
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:04.880
Mm?

717
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:06.320
Yeah, well I don't.

718
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.880
I don't entertain it. I don't like, I don't watch

719
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.639
people like that.

720
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.199
I can't. I can't stand it.

721
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.000
And I've noticed a trend to if somebody grew up

722
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.400
in a home that was pretty trip, but they had

723
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.800
that kind of fear mongering pre trip people. You know,

724
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.480
I'm saying, there are all these people out there, they're

725
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.199
they're there. That's a lot of the reason why they've

726
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.360
turned away from that doctrine because they were just scared

727
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.280
to death that you know, Jesus is coming back today

728
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.119
and we better just and it's not that he can't.

729
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:35.920
I fully believe that he can, you know what I mean,

730
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.320
I just don't think we have long to go. But

731
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.199
for me, I just don't entertain that stuff because I

732
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.599
think it can exist. Not just in that but I

733
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.559
mean even even back when I was trying to learn

734
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.079
what was going on in twenty twenty and kind of

735
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.280
figuring out what is happening my world, My my paradigm

736
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.639
has just completely been shattered and altered. There's there was

737
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.400
fear based things that I was learning through secular lenses

738
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.679
that were causing fear and it's you know what I mean.

739
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.320
So anytime that there's that kind of model is present

740
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.360
when I am looking at information, that for me is

741
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.960
a shut off because to me, the preacher rapture that

742
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:14.360
is my blessed hope and the worse it gets out there.

743
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.559
The more I know, Jesus, you're closer today than you

744
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.119
were yesterday. And who knows, maybe it is today because

745
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.320
one day I'm going to wake up or it might

746
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:22.840
be in my sleep.

747
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.360
Either way, I'll still wake up and go to bed

748
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.000
and it'll happen.

749
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:25.719
One day.

750
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.079
I'm going to wake up and it's going to be

751
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:27.599
that day.

752
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:35.400
Yeah. Man, So, man, I don't I can't ask you

753
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.880
to put timelines on stuff. It's just one of those

754
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.800
things like what what are you really looking at? Like,

755
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.800
I mean, there's so much so much so people that

756
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.440
need to like focus a little bit. I'm like, what's

757
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.280
going on? Like what's good places for people to look

758
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.679
for that? And like that stuff, like what should they

759
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:56.519
be looking for?

760
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.880
Yeah, so that's a really good question because obviously there's noise.

761
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.199
There really is, and you really can't put a timeline

762
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.719
on anything. I don't know the date. I'm not a

763
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:09.840
date personal.

764
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.000
And I didn't even need to say that. It's just.

765
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.400
They do. It's valid, it's completely valid. So but I

766
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.679
will tell you for me, there is a lot of

767
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:26.239
interesting things about looking at For me, I don't know.

768
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.440
I don't want to let me preface what I'm about

769
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:28.760
to say.

770
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:30.480
What I'm about to say does not mean that you

771
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.840
should go looking through occult books or anything like that, Okay,

772
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.920
But what I have come to realize is I do

773
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.440
pay attention to what the other side is doing.

774
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:42.079
And the reason I do.

775
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:46.480
Is because what are these people using to get the

776
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:47.719
knowledge that they are.

777
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.960
Divination Taro.

778
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.880
They're communing and channeling with demons and spirits and all

779
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:58.960
of that. They're getting downloads from people like Master Dkay.

780
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.800
So you have Alice Bailey and Helena Blovotski and the

781
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:04.679
things that they believed in the year twenty twenty five

782
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.840
and why it was so pivotal for the occult. I

783
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.639
pay attention to that because Satan is speaking to them.

784
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:11.800
Now.

785
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.119
You and I don't know the exact date that Jesus

786
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:15.920
was crucified.

787
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:16.719
We don't know.

788
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.320
There's we have theologians on a couple of dates in

789
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.480
a couple of years, but we don't know. But was

790
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:26.079
Satan there? Yep, he sure was. I think there's something too.

791
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.079
This coming up upon two thousand years of church history

792
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.400
from the Cross to now, and we are embarking upon that.

793
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.000
Whether you believe in a thirty two AD or thirty

794
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.559
three AD. We're coming up on that, and so I

795
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:46.119
think that there's something significant between now and the year

796
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.320
twenty thirty three.

797
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:49.239
That's what I see.

798
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.280
I also pay attention to you, like I have people

799
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.360
that send me videos of a few rabbis out in

800
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.800
Israel that are not Obviously they don't believe the things

801
00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.800
that we do, and the stuff that they're talking about

802
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:04.199
for these years is insane to me. To me, it mirrors.

803
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:05.920
I'm not going to say it's an identical path because

804
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.280
it's not, but it mirrors the things that we're looking

805
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.679
for in Bible prophecy. So what I would say to

806
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.000
somebody is just pay attention. Go read Revelation thirteen. Right.

807
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:18.079
Revelation thirteen talks about this time where this entire system

808
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.320
is going to be up and running, and you're going

809
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.360
to have to make a decision, if you are in

810
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.119
this time period, to take a mark, to pledge your allegiance,

811
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.880
to pledge your worship. The entire world is going to

812
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.320
be monitored and surveiled to be able for the Antichrist

813
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.639
and the false prophet to put forth this mark that

814
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.920
you will take on your hand or your forehead to

815
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.800
pledge allegiance to worship to choose that side, and I

816
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.519
would say pay attention to how in the world could

817
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.880
that even be possible. We are seeing that twenty years

818
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:50.920
ago we were not in the place that we are

819
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:56.840
today to have the Revelation thirteen system, cashule society, one

820
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.039
world religion. This is why it's such a problem with

821
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.199
Christian nationalists that's rising up in this country. It is

822
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:06.480
not Christianity, it is not biblical. It's mystery. Religion is

823
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.000
really what it is, mixed with politics. Jesus wrapped in

824
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:13.280
an American flag. I don't think so. One world government,

825
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.559
one world system of finance.

826
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:17.920
And a one world religion.

827
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:20.480
And I would just be paying attention to how all

828
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.519
these things are merging together to form.

829
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:24.400
That entire system.

830
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.199
You've got your political arm, you've got your financial arm,

831
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.920
and you've got your religious arm. And I would say,

832
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.679
pay attention to those things. Does that feel kind of helpful?

833
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.360
Yeah? I mean especially with what where was this thing

834
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:41.960
built that's bringing It's like the the center for piece

835
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.360
of religious peace or something that they've got.

836
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.639
Is that the Abraham? Yes, the how is the House

837
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:55.159
of Abraham? But it unites all the faith together Islam yeah,

838
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.559
Christianity and Judaism is that.

839
00:40:57.920 --> 00:40:59.440
I can't. I'd have to google it really quick.

840
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.960
I can't remember, Yeah, google it because I Yeah, man,

841
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.119
that place is like I'm like, this is what we're

842
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.199
talking about, like things like this.

843
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.280
It's like the House of David or something Islam. Hold on,

844
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.599
this is where you need chat GPT real quick.

845
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:31.480
Yeah, right, let's see.

846
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.000
No, that's not it. It's the center for something and

847
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:38.320
I can't think of what it is.

848
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:51.320
That's why I love editing.

849
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:53.800
Mm hm yeah, you can cut this out.

850
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:06.800
I guess it looks like so it's three major right,

851
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:09.199
hang on it?

852
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:10.559
Hold on?

853
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.559
Yeah, why can't I find the Abrahamic family House? Is

854
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:14.960
that it?

855
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:16.159
I think that's it.

856
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.800
That's what I'm talking about. That's an Abu.

857
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.360
Dhabi Abu Dhabi there it is, Yeah.

858
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:28.760
A landmark interfaith complex and said Yet Island and Abu

859
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.519
Dhabi United Air Memorates completed in twenty twenty three to

860
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.639
promote understanding between Islam, Christianity, and.

861
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:39.639
Wow.

862
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:44.960
So it's got all three. Yeah, it's like, what, like,

863
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.280
what are we doing here?

864
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:47.119
Yeah?

865
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.400
And so it would have to be a counterfeit, right,

866
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.400
because there's no possible way you and I and your

867
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.840
viewers for believers. No, there's no possible way that Christianity

868
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:01.000
could murder any of that unless it was false, a

869
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.559
false form of Christianity. Yeah, and then you have all

870
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.880
the New Age Kabbalah, all of that garbage that's in there,

871
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.360
that's being tied in to all of that too, and

872
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:12.920
it is.

873
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.599
So it's so confusing you all, like there's just you

874
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.880
get hit from all sides.

875
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.239
Yeah.

876
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.519
Actually, is the church absent in Revelation after chapter three

877
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.679
for a reason.

878
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:28.840
Yeah, it is.

879
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.960
The church is not talked about at all in from

880
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.760
chapters I think it's chapter four through nineteen, yeah, or

881
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.519
is it six through nineteen Either way, fourth wherever it

882
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.440
where it talks about starts talking about the sealed Judgments.

883
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.559
The church is absent right before that, Yeah, because John

884
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.760
the revelator says, come up here.

885
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:47.280
Yeah, that's what.

886
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.360
Yes, it is, It absolutely is, and that is a

887
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.639
That's another big key as well, is that the church

888
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.119
is absent from that time period again because we're not

889
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:58.679
we're not destined for God's wrath.

890
00:43:58.880 --> 00:43:59.159
We're not.

891
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.280
Jesus has already paid that and he stepped in and

892
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.159
took the place of that for us.

893
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:11.480
So what role does the restrainer and two Fessialosian, I

894
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:12.519
can't even say it.

895
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.599
You're good, second Thessalonians.

896
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.039
Second Thessalonians to play in your view.

897
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.239
You know, I'm actually kind of going through a little

898
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:22.000
bit of that now.

899
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.519
You know.

900
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:30.039
The understanding is that it is the Holy Spirit indult believer, yes,

901
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.119
and that at the time of the rapture, the Holy

902
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.599
Spirit dwelt believer goes up. But the issue is, I

903
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.480
want to say that there's a couple of different views

904
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:39.800
on it, and I'm still trying to figure out where

905
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:40.119
I land.

906
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:41.840
Okay, be a traditional view.

907
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.400
No, it's and actually, uh, what's what actually started this

908
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.000
conversation was talking about this with the Lee Brainerd. So anyway,

909
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.880
the the traditional view is that when the rapture happens,

910
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.599
the Holy Spirit obviously lives on the inside of us,

911
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.480
in the Holy Spirit enduelt believer. If we're gone, then

912
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.360
the Holy Spirit is not here anymore. But the problem

913
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.039
with that is is that the Bible is pretty clear

914
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.599
that a there are going to be plenty of people

915
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:11.239
that gets saved through that tribulation timeframe, correct, And so

916
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.480
if the Holy Spirit isn't here, how are they wooed.

917
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.760
How are they how are they called for?

918
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:16.920
Right now?

919
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:18.639
I've always heard it that the Holy Spirit will go

920
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.079
back to working like he did in the Old Testament

921
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.119
where he descended upon the prophets he descended, you know

922
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.599
what I'm saying there, They were not in Dwelt. They

923
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.320
just they had times where they would go into and

924
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.159
like a profit, would go into an open eyed trance

925
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.760
and be able to prophesy about becoming events and all that.

926
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.239
Sort of stuff. So there's talk of that.

927
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.679
That's what I've typically heard, But in saying that, there's

928
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.559
some other views too that it's a little bit different

929
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.440
than that. So I would say, I don't know learn

930
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.920
how to answer that one right now, because I'm still

931
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.599
trying to decide on whether I agree with the traditional

932
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.920
value of that or whether there's something else. Yeah, it

933
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.880
is is a nuanced thing.

934
00:45:54.719 --> 00:46:01.960
So yeah, absolutely, I mean everything from like Michael the Archangel.

935
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:04.079
Yeah, I definitely don't see that.

936
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.840
Yeah, but some people connect that with the Book of

937
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.960
Daniel right where Michael stands aside and intense, you know.

938
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.159
Yeah, but it's that's a very very flawed way to

939
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.920
look at it. I don't mean that offensively, No, No, No,

940
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.280
they're just the string that they're using to connect that

941
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:27.559
is not very thick. So yeah, I can see where

942
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.559
people get that, but I think that there's better interpretations

943
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.119
for it than that one.

944
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.920
So I guess I'm going to ask this question. It's

945
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.400
kind of direct, but if you're wrong about Tree pre trip,

946
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:42.639
what ask it?

947
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.639
I love that you asked that nothing you know what happened?

948
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.639
I would go, hey, big announcement today from the channel. Guys,

949
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.599
turns out I was wrong, and I just saw the

950
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:55.840
anti Christ sign of Covenant, and now I've got to

951
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.760
tell you we're gonna be here for some help. So

952
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.079
that can what happened. You are in it now, and

953
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.559
I can assure you that I now know when Jesus

954
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.960
is coming back, right, So I mean, that's what would happen.

955
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:11.199
Because the thing is is that doesn't it doesn't matter,

956
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.880
it doesn't, it just doesn't matter. It's that this time

957
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.960
period is gonna unfold. So regardless of who's right about

958
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.119
when we go up, I feel very confident in my view.

959
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.079
But if I'm wrong, nothing changes other than me going hey, guys,

960
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.239
I got something wrong. I've already had to do that

961
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.199
a few times on my channel like, no, big deal.

962
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.280
Does that mean I'm gonna fall away from the faith

963
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.239
because I think I'm not gonna I didn't get taken out,

964
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:31.840
or I'm just gonna crumble up in a in a

965
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.679
ball in the fetal position and lay in the corner

966
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:34.440
and die. No.

967
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:36.840
Like, when people come at me with that, I'm like.

968
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:37.679
Are you serious?

969
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:39.079
You would think that if I'm.

970
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.159
Wrong about the rapture, I'm somehow gonna go ahead and

971
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.840
denounce Jesus and fall away from the faith. Are you crazy?

972
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:48.559
It's like crush, Oh, oh my goodness. No, that that

973
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.159
is That is the most straw man of arguments. This

974
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.400
was ridiculous argument I've ever heard in my life. That

975
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.480
will not happen. It would be would be disappointing. Yes,

976
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.440
absolutely it won't.

977
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.159
But it doesn't. It doesn't change anything.

978
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.760
It changes absolutely nothing than me still trying to band

979
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:03.239
together to.

980
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:07.719
Get the underhand deck some stuff that just sucks.

981
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:09.920
Yeah, of course, but I've already had to deal with that.

982
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:10.119
Man.

983
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.119
I've been allowed off my whole life and stood on

984
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.000
hills that nobody would stand on with a flag.

985
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:19.480
So it's like, you know, nothing new, nothing new, you know.

986
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.559
Yeah, So the other side of that though, is if

987
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.519
you're right, what does that mean for this generation?

988
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.639
It means that this generation is the most plus generation.

989
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.039
Like for me, it's just the ultimate exciting moment. And

990
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.519
then there's also the ultimate heartbreak because I have people

991
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:42.199
in my life that are choosing to say no to

992
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:46.159
Jesus right now, and I'd let them all know, like, Yo,

993
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.320
if this day comes and you find you can't get

994
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.960
hold of me anymore, We're gone. No new contents coming out,

995
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.199
make sure it's not AI. If there is, you know

996
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:55.880
what happened.

997
00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:57.280
You know what happened.

998
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.519
So it's like it's it's the most greatest moment of

999
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.079
of thinking about that. And here's the thing, regardless of

1000
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.320
the timing of the rapture, I do believe we're the generation.

1001
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.519
I believe I will see the Lord return in my lifetime.

1002
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.400
I also don't have It's it's strange, but I don't

1003
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:14.159
feel like I'm going to get old. I don't know

1004
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.639
if that sounds weird, call me strange whatever. I've just

1005
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.760
a I've never thought I was going to die. I

1006
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.480
cannot explain that to you. There's just something I.

1007
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.800
Feel the same way that okay, okay, And even with

1008
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.519
I have some health issues. I've had some health issues,

1009
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.519
I should say, but I'd feel the same way. And

1010
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.280
that's kind of it's kind of cool to hear someone

1011
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.480
else say that, Yep, how old are you going to be?

1012
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:39.719
I said, I'm going to live to be one hundred

1013
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.880
and forty seven years old, like I had a dream. Seriously,

1014
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.280
like I had a I'm not saying my dreams always

1015
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.840
come true, but there's some there's a there's a track

1016
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:51.400
record here just saying.

1017
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.519
Sure, well, and that's what I mean. God does use

1018
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.960
dreams to speak to people. I mean, you know, I've

1019
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.280
had some some words and some visions from the Lord,

1020
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.280
you know, not through dreams, but I have had visions

1021
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.400
before and things of that nature where God has used

1022
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.280
and used something to show me something that I needed

1023
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.760
to see. One was pretty awesome when it involves my

1024
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:16.800
brother's pretty much miraculous healing from cancer. So you know,

1025
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.079
I firmly believe in that. Friendly believe that, you know,

1026
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.559
the Lord still uses that stuff today, and the gifts

1027
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.920
in Corinthians still are for today and exists for today.

1028
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:25.920
They should be used and done decently in an order,

1029
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.599
but they are still around. In saying that, I think

1030
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.079
that the bottom line is as far as if the

1031
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.599
rapture happens, Man, what a way to go, you know, Like,

1032
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.079
I mean, that's that's really where I'm at with it.

1033
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.079
But but here's the other thing, the rapture.

1034
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.719
Thinking about this too from this perspective, everyone always says that,

1035
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.840
like the oh, pre trippers are just sitting, you know,

1036
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.320
sitting outside on the front works, looking up at the

1037
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:49.719
sky and not doing anything.

1038
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:51.800
Are you full of it?

1039
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.159
Yeah? Exactly? Are you full of it? Do you know

1040
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.639
how busy my life has been since twenty twenty? Do

1041
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.119
you know My biggest challenge right now is that I work.

1042
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.719
My husband has a business. I'm helping to support that,

1043
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.159
and then I have this. I don't have enough time

1044
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.960
to be online every day talking about the like the

1045
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:10.639
urgency of the hour.

1046
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.760
I'm not sitting around doing nothing.

1047
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.480
And I'm also still planning my life to be here

1048
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.800
fifty years from now because I'm doing what the word

1049
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.400
calls me to do, which is to occupy until he comes.

1050
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.280
So I'm planning for fifty years even though I don't

1051
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.400
see ten. Right, Like, That's that's the tension that I'm

1052
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.599
living in. So hopefully that you know, answers your question

1053
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:31.599
and helps reviewers all that.

1054
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.679
I agree. So, just kind of wrapping things up, every

1055
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.599
guest gets to plant a seed, since the name of

1056
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:43.840
the podcast is broadcasting seeds. Yeah, I would like you

1057
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.679
to plant a seed in the audience's mind.

1058
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.039
Okay, well, I would say this if you do not

1059
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.960
have this kind of big my, my big shtick lately,

1060
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:58.760
if you do not have a paper Bible, get a

1061
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.079
paper Bible. There is no doubt in my mind that

1062
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.800
all of the digital translations, all of the digital tools

1063
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.719
that we love and I use for study, I use

1064
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.360
for different things, those are going to go away. They're

1065
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.840
going to be altered. AI is going to rewrite them.

1066
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.280
We heard you all, know Harari talking about that at

1067
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.840
the World Economic Form two weeks ago. Get yourself a

1068
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.559
paper Bible, because there may come a day, Yeah exactly,

1069
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.199
we got a gazillion of them in our house. R

1070
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.719
There may come a day that you do not have

1071
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.840
digital access on your little phone with your little apps.

1072
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.400
You may not have that. And I personally think that the.

1073
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.079
Reason why the digital Bible became such a thing. Anyway,

1074
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.079
I think that was a plan of the enemy to

1075
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.159
get people very comfortable on software and on not having

1076
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.320
something tangible to write and to study, to dog ear,

1077
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.400
to flag, to bookmark. I think that was a tool

1078
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:56.920
and a strategy of the enemy. It's not that I

1079
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.199
don't believe in those things, because I use them. You've

1080
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.639
got to get a paper Bible, and then second to that,

1081
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.000
with your Bible, get in it. The only way that

1082
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.239
you are going to know what the Lord's will is

1083
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.159
for your life, what your purpose is here from now

1084
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:14.599
until the Lord calls you home or the rapture happens first.

1085
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:16.800
The only way you're going to know that is to

1086
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.559
spend time getting to know Jesus. Spend time getting to

1087
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.480
know the Lord through his word. He speaks to us

1088
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:27.320
through that, He confirms things through things to us through that,

1089
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.559
and that is the the Bible says, the Word is

1090
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.000
a lamp into my feet and a light into my path,

1091
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:34.840
and that is how you figure out what in the

1092
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:36.760
world you are supposed to do. So, if you are

1093
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.599
somebody who is struggling with your purpose, you're calling like, oh,

1094
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:41.239
you guys, are.

1095
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:42.519
You know you guys are a podcast ors. This is

1096
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:43.199
like a big deal.

1097
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.599
God has something for you. But if you're not in

1098
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.920
the Word, you're not reading. You're not spending time in prayer.

1099
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:51.519
You're not getting that time and putting in the work

1100
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.840
with that relationship, just like you would do your marriage,

1101
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.039
your best friend, your time with your mom or dad,

1102
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:57.039
your family, your brother.

1103
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:58.519
That is why you are stuck.

1104
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.719
And so those are going to be the things that

1105
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.760
people really need to do, especially in these last days. Guys.

1106
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.400
Like I said, regardless of where you land on the spectrum,

1107
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.599
there is no doubt the time is now.

1108
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.639
The days are short, and it's quickening.

1109
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.079
It's quickening very much, and we're getting to be here

1110
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:18.280
towards the end where everything is about to really shift

1111
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.159
and we need to be able to do what we

1112
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.079
were commissioned to do, and that is to go out

1113
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.760
and make disciples now because time is very short.

1114
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:33.039
Yeah, I agree with everything you're saying. Yeah I am. Yeah.

1115
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.719
I just always reference people to like, not not the

1116
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.719
movie itself, but like the Book of Eli. Just have

1117
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:41.519
you ever have you ever seen that movie?

1118
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.360
I have not seen that movie. No, tell me about it.

1119
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.119
I don't even know what ends up happening.

1120
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.960
And it's like a it's a dystopian earth, you know,

1121
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.880
at the end, But what ends up happening is that

1122
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:56.000
One of the things that happens is that it's obviously

1123
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.119
a war, civil war type thing. Yeah, and they burn

1124
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.880
all the Bibles. They get rid of all the Bibles,

1125
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:06.840
and there's one basically on the planet and it's called

1126
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.360
the Book of because the guy who has that Bible

1127
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.599
is his name is Eli, and it's all about him

1128
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.559
going from somewhere you know, in America to the West

1129
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:21.320
Coast and there's like out on like Alcatraz, there's a

1130
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.000
group of people rebuilding the world. And part of that

1131
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.920
is they don't have any Bibles. But there's one. I'm

1132
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.480
not going to tell you because in case you want

1133
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:32.599
to watch it, I'm not going to tell you.

1134
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.639
I'm not going to tell you the spin on it.

1135
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:40.880
But I mean it's it's it's pretty powerful, just because

1136
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:44.559
you're like, man, you don't realize until it's all gone,

1137
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:52.159
that the power and that word that's it. But Lauren,

1138
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.079
tell everyone where they can find you again.

1139
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.280
Yeah, the best place to find me is going to

1140
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.000
be on the use of tubes, right, so you too,

1141
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.639
Ube certainty for uncertain times. If you type it in

1142
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:04.840
the search bar, it will come up. I would love

1143
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.840
to have you come check out some of the content

1144
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.400
on the channel and see if it is a place

1145
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:09.920
for you. And like I said, whether you're a pre

1146
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.000
mid post trip doesn't matter, we'd love to have you.

1147
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.559
We love celebrating just the fact that we're all watchmen

1148
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.679
and watch women paying attention to what is going on

1149
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:21.800
and trying to help others who are stuck but are searching.

1150
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:23.800
Because I'm telling you what, people are searching like they

1151
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:27.559
never have. Yes, they really are. We're all trying to

1152
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.440
help sound the alarm and as I say, you know,

1153
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.800
hop on the bullhorn and let people know what's going

1154
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.960
on so that they can figure out Jesus before it's

1155
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:37.760
too late, whether they like I said, whether they die,

1156
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:39.159
or whether the rapture happens first.

1157
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.519
Like, it's too late at both those points.

1158
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.679
So yeah, for sure, and too late meaning at the

1159
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.480
rapture you would have to go through the tribulation.

1160
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.599
Not too late for salvation because people will get safe.

1161
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.039
So just to make sure that that's clear.

1162
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:56.440
Absolutely for sure. So thank you so much for coming on. Heck, yeah,

1163
00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:58.159
I just enjoy I appreciate it.

1164
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:07.719
Hanging over this town and newsman smiling while the truth goes.

1165
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:17.280
Darn everybody talking peace, But it don't feel right, feel the.

1166
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.840
Refuse burning down, and the dog.

1167
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.000
Got the whole worldwide to a plastic God screams a

1168
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.119
little better than the morning sun.

1169
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.079
Folks tread and freedom, chieve and call and progress.

1170
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.159
Don't even know what they have become.

1171
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:39.119
You had a sign sun, Now I know the sounding

1172
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:44.920
from the somehow when the sky rays so well and the.

1173
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:50.440
Troupic just to night, when the last time wandering, Why

1174
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:55.920
the world don't feel high. I'm gonna stand all the promise.

1175
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:01.840
I'm gone to the flame when the ground start shaking,

1176
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.039
I still call your name when.

1177
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.480
The sky brings open.

1178
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.199
Realch I was to the heave.

1179
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.800
Inside, calling you duty, call the one new way. But

1180
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.599
I've read enough no counterfeit.

1181
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:27.360
It always sholds up tristan faith feeding.

1182
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.760
And I ain't saying I know the day hour. I

1183
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.760
ain't foolish enough for then.

1184
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:36.039
But I can feel the pressure in the air of.

1185
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.280
Night, lack fun or riding on the tracks, yet a

1186
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:43.639
lot of strong, deep and riding every shows gonna shoes

1187
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:48.480
the sad when the sky raised so bad, and the

1188
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:54.239
shop because the night when the last start wandering wild,

1189
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:59.639
the world don't feel it. I'm all stand all the promise.

1190
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.599
I know to the fame. When the ground starts again,

1191
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.280
I still call your name.

1192
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:19.480
When the sky brings cool, know.

1193
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:26.320
The same fear and this same madness. This is open

1194
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:30.679
the middle of the blackness.

1195
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:32.159
This is Paine.

1196
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:34.519
When the fire races says.

1197
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:38.280
This is truth.

1198
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.559
When the world's gone rage.

1199
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.599
I won't beut, No, I won't ben even if the

1200
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.360
whole thing bas again. I've seen a.

1201
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.119
Nothing, no one thing.

1202
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:58.119
The king is coming back in the wind when.

1203
00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:01.480
The sky reads open, and that I'm freaking where the light.

1204
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:04.360
When the dads stop.

1205
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.719
Browsing there on the face face and flap the doll

1206
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.519
stand down, all the proms tailing.

1207
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:18.440
Fads, fair face him, the fin steal here fighting finding

1208
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:33.800
all the bread when the sky, when the sky.

1209
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:45.480
Frown, Yeah, I can hear it in the distant story,

1210
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.039
whill the sky break