Jan. 7, 2025

Cryptids, Stories, and Community: Drewski’s Journey with Cryptid Warfare Podcast

Cryptids, Stories, and Community: Drewski’s Journey with Cryptid Warfare Podcast
Cryptids, Stories, and Community: Drewski’s Journey with Cryptid Warfare Podcast
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Cryptids, Stories, and Community: Drewski’s Journey with Cryptid Warfare Podcast

Todays Guest is Drewski from Cryptid Warfare Podcast and Operations.  Cryptid Warfare is a podcast that delves into mysterious and unexplained phenomena, focusing on encounters with cryptids—creatures whose existence is suggested but not...

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Todays Guest is Drewski from Cryptid Warfare Podcast and Operations. Cryptid Warfare is a podcast that delves into mysterious and unexplained phenomena, focusing on encounters with cryptids—creatures whose existence is suggested but not scientifically confirmed. The show provides a platform for individuals to share their personal stories and experiences with such entities, fostering a community for those intrigued by the unknown. cryptidwarfare.com Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2EUqA7cL5B4mFolSZwOsTY?si=9f693826971f49eb Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-broadcasting-seeds-podcast/id1754460480 Rumble https://rumble.com/user/BroadcastingSeeds YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@BroadcastingSeeds

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Today's guests Drewski from Cryptid Warfare Podcast and Operations. Cryptid

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Warfare is a podcast that delves into mysterious and unexplained phenomena,

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focusing on encounters with creatures whose existence is suggested but

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not scientifically confirmed. The show provides a platform for individuals

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to share their personal stories and experiences with such entities,

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fostering a community for those intrigued by the unknown. Let's

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get into it.

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Yeah, all right, we are live, all right, mister Drew

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Drew drew Ski. Yeah, man, true, So tell us, uh

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who you are and what you do?

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Man, yeah, man, Uh, everybody. I just want to say, hey,

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first of all, Bennett Man, just want to say thanks

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for letting me be on the show. Appreciate you, man. Yeah, sorry, stars, stars,

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actually a little late, but yeah, I have to deal

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with my son and all that and.

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Kids.

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Man, yeah, I hear you man, Yeah yeah, but I

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had to get them all situations stuff too, so on that. Yeah, guys. Yeah,

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my name is Drew. People call me Drewski, so that's

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kind of what I kind of left it as. You

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call me Drew Andrew. It don't matter so of that.

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I am the host of of a cryptive warfare and

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conspiracies podcasts just like just like a bet here actually

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have a podcast as well. Uh. Other than that, yeah,

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we just talk about conspiracies, cryptids, things, paranormals, virtual warfare

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and times all that stuff. So you know, if anyone's

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got a story or anyone's got any like facts or

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anybody's knowledgeable in certain areas, you know, people just want

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to come on chet Japman. So I just have whoever

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you know, wherever on. So other than that as well too,

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I'm actually ahead of a cryptied research team as well too.

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So yeah, basically I actually have like a lot of

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guys who are there who are prior law enforcement, uh,

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prior military stuff like that, so all of us come together.

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We all do like a lot of bustcrafts, sur bible

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stuff like that. So we actually do like a lot

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of blunking caving, and then we actually put the stuff

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that we use in our in our past jobs and stuff,

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and we actually try to help out people who are

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actually having problems when it comes to paranormal spiritual warfare

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or cryptids. We're having actual physical problems as well too,

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so when it comes to them getting threatened or you know,

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animals getting mutilated, stuff like that. So yeah, so we're

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basically go there, you know, do a little research we

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have to get we have to do if we have

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to be a little bit, I should say on the

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physical part, you know, of course, you know, we actually

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practice a lot of I should say, yeah, I'll just

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I'll just say that we that we just all hang out,

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We just train a lot. That's that's all I say.

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So that, Yeah, your name kind of says a little

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bit about it. It's a cryptid warfare, right sure. That

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involves some spiritual warfare and some other things along that,

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you know, because it's not it's not some oh god,

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it's not like going to the zoom man where you

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just look at stuff. It's it's sometimes it's an interactive

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experience out there in the woods. Right So yeah, yeah, man,

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So the first thing that attracted me, that caught my

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attention was your name. I mean, this was months ago.

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I love the name cryptid warfare. Obviously my background, it

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kind of lends to the speaking peaking my interest. But

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the one question that I ask all the guests that

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comes on is, so, as you said, you know, your

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podcast covers basically the same thing. This podcast does, right,

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it's it's high strangeness in general, right of all. ILK.

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So what that being said, what was your I call

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it the gateway drug? What was your gateway drug to

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this universe, to this high strangeness vill that we live in, right,

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because once you see it, you can't go back. But

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like me, mine was Bigfoot when I was young, ghosts Bigfoot.

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But you know, something usually sparks you to dive deep

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into this stuff. So for you, what was that.

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Well, I guess to say it first started off, I

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guess the whole paramormal aspect. Yeah, that and UFO was

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I definitely definitely was a big Ufo and aliens junkie

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a long long time ago. You know, like watching like

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fire in the sky, you know, stuff like that, So

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you know, doing that and then and only that, you know,

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just doing like a lot of like backpacking and survival

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stuff like that. You know. So my dad teaching me

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the mountains and stuff, so learning about Bigfoot and yeah,

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it's basically you know, just Bigfoot and aliens. Man.

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Yeah, well you kind of lived in the right area

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for it.

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Oh yeah, did you grow up there too, Yeah, Colorado,

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yes is yeah.

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So yeah, it gets live out there.

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For sure.

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So the first time I was exposed to you, besides

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the name I already brought that up, was I. I

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want to say it was an episode. I honestly don't

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remember which podcast it was on, but it was on

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one of the bigger ones, and I might have been

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the Confessionals, but I don't think it was. I'm not positive,

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but you talked about so it was just kind of serendipitous.

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I told you my family lives out in Denver, and

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you were talking about the Denver Airport, which to me

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has been one of the creepiest plaices I've ever spent time, right,

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just because under the surface there's just that like energy,

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that air of something a right, whether it's from the

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Lucifer or the then or those damn paintings and some

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of the sculptures. That was like my first interjection of

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of heresy into my life. And I was like, oh

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my god, this guy's talking my language. So can you

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hit on some of that a little bit, like your

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experiences in and around that spot, you know, whatever you're

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comfortable with.

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Yeah, man, Okay, I guess yeh, I guess we'll dive

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into it.

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Just dive in, just go in yeah, man.

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So basically yeah, like I said, uh, like, we'll just

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ship chatting. Like I said, I was actually prior of

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law enforcement. So like, yeah, so when I was working

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in the area of Colorado, I'm not going to say

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the Yeah, so I'm not going to say the area.

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What Yeah, you know how you know how it is,

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you know op second all that, So yu, I saw

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buddies are selling it. But so in a nutshell ork

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for the state yeah then itways yeah, so yeah, like

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I said, I was work for the State of Colorado

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at the time. This is back in two thoy eleven

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at the time, and so it was, yes, I was

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on the I was only this tag team. It was

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sort of special offers and response team, squat stuff like that.

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So so we did a lot of executive protection. We

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did a lot of high custidy transport stuff like that.

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So our goal was to protect a certain guy. He

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was an executive over a certain entity. I'm just gonna

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say the State of Colorado over he was basically the

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executive of the state of the prisons over there in Colorado,

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not the FEDS, but the states, And it was yes,

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so we had to basically just babysit him, you know,

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pick him up, take him to his meetings, fall stuff

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like that, just fall him just basically just do just

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like they toy day these and whatnot. He goes to

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his meetings, we go with him all that stuff. So

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it was yeah, so I was tasked to hang out

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with him and a couple of guys I was with

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that day. And it turns out he had a meeting

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at the Denver International Report. So went to the pre saying,

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checked their weapons in, went to roll call all that stuff.

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And after that everybody branched out. So me and like

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other guys were tasked to this guy. So picked him up,

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drove all the way out there, and then we ended

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up going through a back gate at the Denver National Report.

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Drove to the back pretty close to the tarmac, and

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then these gates opened and we went like this. We

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went down like this little concrete hill. It was almost

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kind of a driveway. We just went down and we

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went underneath the airport and it was literally like a

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bunch of tunnels. You know. You actually you actually had

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like maintenance people driving around. You had like all these

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little carts and buggies and stuff. You know, people would

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like luggage, the carts and stuff like that going in

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and out. So we just kept going and I didn't

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know anything about that. I was like, what the freaky Okay,

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this is pretty cool.

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You know.

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We actually got like tunnels under here, you know, you know,

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you're driving around, so we're just zig zagging, and then

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we ended up in this almost like parking lot area.

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We get out these double doors open and we see

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these two Air Force MPs come out, and the Governor

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of Colorado comes out. I'm like trying to hold my

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cool because this is like super cool. I'm like Jones

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and out here. I'm like, dude, this is so cool.

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I don't know what we're doing, but this is so cool.

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I'm just glad I'm here. Man. So after that and

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peace check us out. We exchanged information. So he leaves

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and we're basically told, you know, just to stand right

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here at the entrance of the doors, and we just

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we just wait. We're just chilling. I say, the meeting

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was probably about like an hour and a half, like

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two hours, but at the same time we're there. You

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know how it is when you're just chilling waiting downtime,

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you know, you guys just chit chat, you know. So

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we're chatting about football, about the Avalanche, Denver, Bronco, stuff

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like that, and we're just chatting about like guns, you know,

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all that stuff. So we're actually just kicking, you know,

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with these guys. So and then as people were going

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in and out, we're seeing these double doors open again.

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I kind of peek my head in there and I'm looking.

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I'm like, I'm trying to gather all this information as

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I can, and I see boxes stacked up and the

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thing that totally cut my eye, man, was I see

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train tracks right there, and I'm like, what the freak

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is this? And one of the guys who was a

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sold the Air Force, what do you call it? It's

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it's not a.

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Yeah, SPS, security security Forces.

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Security forces. Yeah. So I'm chatting with him, was like, hey, man,

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when the heck do they add this on? And he's like, oh, dude,

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he's been here forever, you know, you know, these things

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go from here to Nord stuff like that, and I'm

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just like.

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What, yeah, right, it's you know, it's not that close. Yeah,

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from from the DA to uh Norad is not that close. Yeah.

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So I look across to one of the guys are

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on the short team, and I'm just like, kind of

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make an eye contact. We have like that, like that

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look if somebody says something, you're kind of like what

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you know, but we're trying to hold our cool, Like yeah, man,

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that's fricking crazy. So he's like, yeah, man, you know,

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we just basically, you know, if they use that, they

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just that's that's that's how they transport goods or items

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or things, you know, without the public knowing. You know.

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I'm like, oh man, that's a trip, you know. So

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then after that, a certain person comes out and uh,

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he's just pissed off. Man if they had a bad

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meeting or what. But he's totally stuff and he's like,

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let's go. It's like all right, man, well later, guys later.

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So we jump in the car and I can tell

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it was just very quiet, and he's on his cell

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phone as we're driving back from Denver to Carlos Springs

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and he I don't know what the heck he's talking to,

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but he's like cussing up a storm. He's pissed off.

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And all he said was like, you know what, if

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they want to play hardball, screw it rooma can play hardball.

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This is bull crap. I'm not I'm not dealing with

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this basically in a nutshell. So we're just kind of quiet,

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and then by the time we drop him off, we

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go over to the you know, Grace thinkt area, our

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reports for the day. We just check chat and then

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they head home. And then I think it was about

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six months later, in twenty twelve, he gets murdered. This

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person we were protecting, he gets murdered on his off time.

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A certain inmate rolled went to his house the door

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said he was a pizza delivery guy. Daughter opened up

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the door. I was like, okay, talk to him. He

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went to grab her dad. He walked up to the

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door in that dude shot up with the shotgun and

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then I'm pretty sure they caught him in Texas because

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we just took off after that. Anyways, Yeah, so, uh yeah,

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so that was that. That's what kind of like, what

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the heck, I just kind of like got me down

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the whole rabbit hole of conspiracy.

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Yeah yeah, so And what.

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Was crazy though, what totally topped it all off was

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at that same time, after all it happened, it was

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in two thousand and fourteen, before I moved from Colorado

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to Tennessee. I was coaching my little brother's high school

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soccer team at the time, and then after my little

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brother graduated, and this was in twenty fourteen, before I

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literally literally before I moved here, I ran into one

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of my brother's friends and he would he was working

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for a construction company, but they were doing mining at

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the time when they were doing drilling, and I was

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copped to him, was like, hey, hey, Joey, how are

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you doing. Man. He's like, I'm doing good, sir. I'm like, okay, man,

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it's like what's going on? Like he been what are

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you doing? And he's like, oh, I'm actually working for

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a construction company is actually a drilling company. But he's like,

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it's weird, man. He's like, we're drilling tunnels, man. From

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We're out there at the edge of public Colorado and

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we're drilling all the way out to Carlo Springs. Man,

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I have no idea what this is about. All I

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know is that we're getting a good paycheck and yeah,

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so that's bay. It's what we're doing. So you know,

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as we're drilling, they're laying train tracks and stuff and

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it just everything. This came for a full circle. I'm like,

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what the break? Man? Yeah, So I'll just I just

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kind of a little confirmation it was weird, the weird words,

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but who knows, man.

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Yeah, No, it's one of those things like you're like, well,

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what what possible reason could they be doing this other

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than like and I'm not gonna say shady right off

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the bat, but shady.

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You know.

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It's like it's like, I don't what else, like, what

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other possibility or reason do we need to have buried tunnels? Right?

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Yeah?

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I mean I mean there's all kinds of reasons, none

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of which are are, you know, for the public good,

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unless you know, you expect something to go down and

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you're you're gonna put all these people in there, you

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know what I mean, or something along those lines. So

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it just it is definitely, uh, it is definitely something

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special there.

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Yeah. Oh real quick, my fault. I I was just

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rethinking I got the date wrongs. It was in twenty

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thirteen mins to do pass away.

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Okay, they got murder, so gotcha, which is crazy? That's horrible.

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Yeah, well yeah, but I will tell you we talked,

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I'll tell you who he is and stuff and can gotcha?

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So well that yeah, man. So after after that, I

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definitely don't on the whole conspiracy side of it. So

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what's what's going on?

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How much longer did you stay in law enforcement after that?

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After that? Like, like I said, twenty fourteen of July,

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that of July is when I was done and we

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cocked up and we moved to Tennessee.

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Yeah, man, same for me. Twenty fourteen, I was done

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all of it. Yeah, I'm out. I'm hanging up the belt,

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you know.

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Yeah, I hear that, man for sure.

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And then I moved to North Carolina for a bet.

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There you go, yeah, man, so live down there. Then

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I lived in Florida, and I lived in Delaware and

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then moved back to New York. But it is what

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it is. I don't live in New York though I

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live in like see, everyone assumes, and I know you're

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not one of those people, I'm sure, but fromone assumes

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that New York is New York City.

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And no, man, New York probably is beautiful.

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It's ridiculously country like where I live. The number one

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radio station is a country radio station, like, yeah, it's

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New York like and I live, you know, five minute

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drive from some of the woodiest woods you're going to

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ever find, right, So, yeah, people don't get it, but yeah,

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it's crazy. So so with that being said, you moved

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to Tennessee and what gets you?

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Like?

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What first off? Why Tennessee from Colorado?

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Yeah, so I'll just basically do just like the cli

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Cliff notes on this. So yeah, and it was. Yes,

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So during that time when I was in law enforcement

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me like two thousand, Yeah, I was about like twenty thirteen,

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right a year before we moved here, Me and my

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wife were actually going through hard time. So uh, anyways, yeah,

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what a nutshell was being a total told jackass. And

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at the same time, you know how it is if

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if you don't have if your partner doesn't understand what

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you go through, your partner can't really get on the same. Yeah,

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basically if she doesn't know understand, if she doesn't understand

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what you're going through. So now you feel you really

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can't confide into that person, and if you do, it's

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really really really hard for them to understand. So what

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do you do? You you totally confine in your battle buddies, right, So,

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but at the same time, you know that can be healthier,

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that can be total the total opposite, man. So for me,

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it was it was it was basically, you know, just

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the total opposite. I was confiding in these people I

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shouldn't have been, and they were giving you bad advice,

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and you know, to me, you know, those those guys

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are family, you know, which you know, I still talk

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to them and stuff, but but the certain advice I

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was getting wasn't good, and I was just rolling with it.

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So I'm like, you know what, I bleed, I sweat

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with these people. You know, these guys are my family.

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So yeah, so I was basically just taking what they

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what they're saying, and you know, sid me making my

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own choices and making the right choices. I was a

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told jackass and I was totally just out there just

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you know, just basically just doing like shenanigans, you know,

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cheating on my wife stuff like that. So so instead

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of just you know, taking it to the bottle or

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drugs and stuff like that, my main focus was just

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womanizing at the time, you know. So yes, so during

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that time, I told my wife, you know what, I

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want to divorce. So she was like what, and so

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She's like, tell you what. Thank God for my wife. Man,

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she's a hardcore trooper and man, she's yeah, God's amazing

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and I totally don't deserve her, but she had the

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right level head at the time. So she was like,

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I tell you what, before we go through this, She's like,

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let's take a separation. I'm gonna go to Tennessee with

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my family. You still do what you want to do,

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and you think about you really really think about what

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you want to do. And whenever that decision comes up,

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matter how long she goes, I'm gonna come back and

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then we can go from there. I'm like, all right, cool, whatever.

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So she leaves. So at the same time, God's really

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trying to get my attention, and the same time, do

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like a lot of stuff's happened, Like God's really trying

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to get my attention, Like do what the hell you doing?

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So in a nutshell, I had to get out like

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that toxic environment. So, you know, if I wasn't going

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to freaking drive my marriage in the ground, the freaking

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job was so yeah. So like I said, I totally

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created my job as my god. So I went in

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full hundred percent. But uh, anyways, yeah, so God got

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a hold of me. So once she got back, I

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just saw, you know, what if we're gonna make this work,

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we need to just literally move. We need to pack up,

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we need to start all over. I need to get

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out of this. I need to get away. So I'm like,

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the job I'm in isn't healthy, the people I'm with

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isn't healthy. She's like, if we're going to do it,

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if I'm gonna do this with you, I need to

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start fresh. So she's like, okay, cool, I got a

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good spot. Let's just go to Tennessee. I'm like, screw it,

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let's go.

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Yeah.

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So, man, so that's the reason why I moved here.

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And then one of the reason why I moved here.

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And then when I came here, I literally went off

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of faith. I had no job. I was, you know,

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so yeah, so yeah, man, So we moved here. So

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I was literally trying to pick up the pieces and

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I was, okay, guy, like what do you want me

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to do? So I was like, I don't want to

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go back in the law enforcement because you know, of

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course all the stuff's happening with the riots and races

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and stuff like that. So I'm not gonna I'm not

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gonna jump back into that. Why am I gonna jump

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back into that? And almost tore apart my marriage. So yeah,

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so I just literally just went like literally just went

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back to my old trade man, which was which was

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sheet metal and welding. So that's where I'm at right now.

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I'm actually working over at the Nissan manufacturer. I'm like

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a quality control guy. So but other than that, when

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it comes to when it comes to shooting and stuff

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like that, I'm actually still training. I'm still you know,

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teach people how to shoot stuff like that. So the

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so the part of me when it comes to lawenforcement

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and shootings what has never left. I still have that itch.

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I still serve at my church right now, so as

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in uh basically in uh in the security and stuff

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like that. So well that yeah, man, you know, just

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like you, you know that part of you never dies,

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so you know, always on edge, You're always watching out

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for people. You're basical always like a.

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Sheep dog, the vigilance never Yeah, it doesn't. So Western Tennessee.

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I'm actually in Central Tennessee, Middle Tennessee. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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about like a thirty minutes away.

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From Nashville, gotcha. So yeah, so awesome. Yeah, one of

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my favorite, one of my favorite areas is over by

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like Maryville. Yes, yeah, I love it over there. I've uh,

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I've been over there a few times and so sometimes

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and sometime in the wood mainly though, it's just because

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it's Yeah, I have buddies that live in North Carolina

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as well, right over the right over the mountains, so

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I've been there in that area a few times. It's

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pretty awesome. But yeah, I don't know much about central Tennessee.

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But.

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They've got a friend that lives trying to think of

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where he lives now. It's right outside Knoxville, which is

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still far way farther east than you guys.

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But yeah, but if I had to live anywhere in Tennessee,

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I would actually move way out east, man, because it's

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beautiful out there.

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Yeah, kox and like Mountain City and all that's beautiful

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out there.

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Absolutely yeah, And it's like you kind of get the

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best of both sides because you can head up into

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the mountains if you want, or you can you know,

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stay down. So yeah, which there's a whole lot of

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folks moving.

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There, man, there is Man, it's a trip.

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So especially in our genre or our type of world,

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there's a lot of folks with Appalachia and everything there right, yeah, yeah, Man,

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stuff gets a little nutty. I just uh yeah, because

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I think, isn't that where like Tony Merkle lives that area?

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And then hey there's just a bunch of people, dude,

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it's crazy. So so all right, so now we've moved

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out to Kinnessee, things are better obviously, right. Yeah. So

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that's and that's awesome. That's always good to hear. Man

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I and uh Christian. Yeah, so you've kind of got

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what brought you to Like who how did cryptid Warfare

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move from that? From you getting in there? It's like,

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how did that get developed? How how did the organization?

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Was it the organization first or was it like the

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podcast first?

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I guess I would say it was the organization first. Yeah,

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like when I think about it, because that's what I

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was doing a lot more than the podcasting. Yeah, so

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in a nutshell, when I moved here before that one,

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at the same time, like I said, like like like

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when AMOI per separated, she was here in Tennessee and

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I was back in Colorado. But at the same time,

461
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when I was in Colorado, she was unloading to the

462
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.680
church that we go to now. She was getting counseling

463
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.720
and help and stuff like that. But one of the

464
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.119
people she was getting counseling from, he was the head

465
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.920
of security at the time, good friend and good friend

466
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:49.000
of mine, Cameron. He was a straight up big foot

467
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:51.880
enthusiast man. So what was funny was she was telling

468
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.200
him about me and about like like like my background

469
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.160
law enforcement, mountain and bushcraft and stuff like that. So

470
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.920
and she's like, yeah, he also believed in bigfoot and

471
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.079
goes out on squatching and stuff like that. And he's

472
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:10.319
like really. So when I moved to Tennessee, my wife's like, hey,

473
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.079
I got this church. When me get plugged into, Hi'm like,

474
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.319
let's do it. So at the same time we like,

475
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.480
I think it's like the second weekend that we went there.

476
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:20.599
On the first weekend, I was checking it out. Second

477
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:21.960
weekend I was like, all right, god, you know, like

478
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.759
whatever you want me to do, I'll dive in and

479
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.680
do it. I go just whatever. Man. He literally comes

480
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.440
up to me, he's like, hey, man, I know who

481
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.319
you are. You're Andrew right your soface has husband. I

482
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.319
was like, yeah, who's the frick for you. He's like, hey,

483
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.599
I'm Cameron, DUDEA da da da dad, And I'm like, okay, cool,

484
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.359
I just still don't know you. And he's like, yeah, man,

485
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.160
we just started chatting it up. And then so he's like, hey,

486
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.359
I'm I'm actually in charge of the security team here

487
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:44.880
at the church, so I want to know if you

488
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:46.920
want to jump on man. I'm like, yeah, man, one

489
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.880
hundred percent, let's do it. So I did that for

490
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.319
about a year and then it took him about like

491
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.920
a year to kind of warm up, and I noticed

492
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:56.799
he was more like a bigfoot hat. I was like, oh,

493
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.680
cool man, you know you like you like you know,

494
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.440
what's up? What's up that? So he's like, come here quick,

495
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:02.519
I'm to talk to you. He kind of pulled them

496
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:05.799
aside and he's like all right, man, how deep are

497
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.079
you into this? And I was like, dude, and we just.

498
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:12.359
Level hobby or are you like, you know, hey, I

499
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.000
just think bigfoot's weird and it's cool and I want

500
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.240
to put that out there, or are you like in it?

501
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.279
Exactly? So I was like, dude, Like, so him and

502
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.160
I connected on another level. And then about a month

503
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.799
after that, was in twenty fifteen, he he's like, hey, man,

504
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.039
I'm going on a sponsored big foot hunting man. He's like, dude,

505
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.279
you want to go. I was like, I'm down, man.

506
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.160
He's like cool. He's like cool because a lot of

507
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.559
people that are going they're just videographers and you know,

508
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.240
people writing for like this little like city paper or whatever.

509
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.720
He's I have nobody who knows how to have a weapon.

510
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.000
So you can get a group of guys man to

511
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.039
go with us, that would be awesome. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah.

512
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:57.839
So at that time, at that time, when like when

513
00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:59.839
I was here for my first year, I was actually

514
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:04.799
work him for oh god, for Loomis the arm Guard

515
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:12.440
trucking company. Yeah. Yeah, so so that was actually before

516
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:13.440
I got underneath.

517
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.279
The money, the money folks, right, yeah.

518
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.720
Yeah, yeah, the money folks. So but at that time,

519
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.640
that's where I met like one of my best friends, Brian.

520
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.920
He's he's like my second like he's based like my

521
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.839
right hand man when it comes to CW operations and

522
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.359
all that. So I asked him to go a couple

523
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.359
of the dudes and so we all went on this

524
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.839
sponsored big foot hunt just to be like security for

525
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.759
these guys, make sure nobody died did something stupid. So yeah,

526
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.480
we went that, we did on that, and then next

527
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.599
thing we know, we just went on another another hunt

528
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.240
in Kentucky, went to this other place in Alabama, and

529
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.440
we just kept going. Well after that, Cameron had to

530
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.920
slow down because his job took him somewhere else. He

531
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.799
was traveling a lot. So I just kept doing it man,

532
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.519
so and we just got leaves.

533
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:03.839
Yeah.

534
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.880
So and then after that, every year I just started

535
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.440
to kind of like vet guys, right, you know, like

536
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:13.680
working with them stuff like that. You know how it

537
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:15.440
is you kind of get to know people and then

538
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.200
and then you always comes up like that strange factor

539
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.799
like when you talk with people, you know, he kind

540
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.240
of gets to that next level. And then basically how

541
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.119
I got all the guys that are on my team Now,

542
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.599
I got about seven dudes on my team now, so

543
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.440
and we go out four times a year, like big

544
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.720
hunts and then sometimes on the weekends and stuff like that,

545
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.920
you know, but we're always together, so we all all

546
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.799
all of us all work together, we all train together.

547
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.359
You know. And that's CW Operations, right.

548
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.240
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, yeah, so and then after that,

549
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.000
we just kept going on hunts. And then one of

550
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.480
the guys we got in our wasn't our cruise, name

551
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.559
was Zuck he was more of like a tech guy, right,

552
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:59.079
so anything technical when it comes drones, calms, stuff like that, laptops.

553
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:01.920
I needed that guy on the team. So he was

554
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.039
basically the guy. And he actually went to our church too,

555
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.200
and he believes in high strings and it's too and

556
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.519
his testimony is insane. So anyways, yeah, so he he

557
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:12.079
got on the team. So him and I used to

558
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.680
just chat a lot, just talk talk, talk talk, and

559
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.799
he's you know, we're just talking. I was like, And

560
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.559
then at the same time, I was actually listening to

561
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.160
Tony Marker's podcast and West gromint Sasquass Chronicles. I'm like, dude,

562
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.480
we can freaking do this too, man, let'sn't do it man.

563
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.240
So yeah, so we got stories man. Yeah right.

564
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.400
It was back in two thousand No, no, no, no,

565
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.839
it was twenty fifteen, you know, twenty sixteen he started it.

566
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.079
We really did like four episodes and then life hit

567
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.640
and then we just had to stop, right, So then

568
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.720
we started it back up again in two thousand and two,

569
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.359
I mean no, no, sorry, twenty twenty two when we.

570
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:50.759
Started back up againcha.

571
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.000
So and then that's when we just hit the ground running.

572
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.400
And then and then he had to step down about

573
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.279
a year ago because he had some other conflict istions

574
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.039
going on. So I just kept going. Man, So yeah,

575
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:04.039
and I'm.

576
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.839
Doing Do you like it? I mean, do you love

577
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.359
doing it?

578
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.000
Oh? I love it? Man, I love it. You know,

579
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.559
it's I definitely think it's a blessing, you know, because

580
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.839
I get any people like you and other people and

581
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.519
stuff like that, you know, just you know, I just

582
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.200
love hearing people's stories, man, absolutely, or any information they got,

583
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.920
you know, I'm a freaking sponge man feed me.

584
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.799
So so when you guys go out on so you

585
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.640
said you go out about quarterly about yeah, like I'm

586
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.119
big big hunts.

587
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.279
Right yeah. So basically on the big hunts is when

588
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.480
we go out for like a good like three to

589
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.599
like four days, you know. But if we go on

590
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.440
like little like micro like investigations like a.

591
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:46.000
Weekend or whatever. Right yeah, yeah, So what is your

592
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.519
favorite place? Like I'm not telling you to give away

593
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.599
like research areas or anything, but like what's like what's

594
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:58.400
your where? Where are you having experiences that that you

595
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.559
go regularly that.

596
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.759
So it's in it's literally in three states, actually four states,

597
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:10.440
so Tennessee, Kentucky, and Alabama and then we just went

598
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.559
on a recent one in Georgia. But we're still kind

599
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.480
of filling that out. But those three ones Kentucky, Tennessee,

600
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:16.200
and Alabama.

601
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.839
Yeah, I might be going to Kentucky in the spring,

602
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.559
and I'm not out of where I can tell you

603
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.319
after after I look like when we're done. Plus, I'm

604
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:32.519
not gonna blow it up, I'm out here. But so

605
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.880
so Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama? What what have you now? Have

606
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.799
those been like people saying, Hey, I need your help

607
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.079
or is that like, dude, let's just try this out.

608
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.400
I heard? And then we went and tried it out,

609
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.119
you know what I mean, like found an area and

610
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:50.640
got access.

611
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.680
Yeah, so all three of them were people people asking

612
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:54.119
for help.

613
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:55.200
Oh gotcha?

614
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.920
So okay. So the first one was in Kentucky, we

615
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.000
went on that sponsored big foot hunt. It was actually

616
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.000
a couple of park rangers and people that my buddy

617
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.200
Cameron knew. We're like, hey, man, we're getting a lot

618
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.240
of missing people in this area. We don't know what's

619
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.320
going on, and we try to look law enforcement out here.

620
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.159
We're doing what we can, but we just don't have

621
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.800
the time or the manpire anymore. So you guys want

622
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.760
to snoop around. Here's the area that.

623
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.320
Seems to be the trend everywhere. We don't have the time, manpower,

624
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.440
or the money. Yeah.

625
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.800
Yeah, so you know, yeah, if you guys want to

626
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.159
go out in this certain area. I'm not saying wink wink,

627
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:29.519
but if you want to go out in this area,

628
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.400
you stumble up on anything, get as much intelligent can.

629
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.199
Let's not cool. Yeah, we're there. And then the other

630
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.639
one was here in Tennessee. It was actually pretty close

631
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.280
to where I'm at. This this girl she heard her

632
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.559
husband just move recently to the to this cabin. This

633
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.360
was two years ago, but she actually heard the podcast.

634
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.800
She heard what we did, so she reached reached out

635
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:58.599
to me and Jessica Jones. And so she was actually

636
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.360
having a lot of paranorm mic, having a lot of cryptodactivity.

637
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.800
So certain things were running into her house, shaking it wow,

638
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.920
scratching and scratching at her doors on the roof. They

639
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.599
were actually killing her chickens. And she literally had a

640
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.760
cave that was thirty feet away from her house. So yeah,

641
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.239
and then her neighbors said that they saw something nine

642
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.119
foot running across the field. So it made the neighbor

643
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.280
move out and yeah. Yeah, so she was having just

644
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.119
a lot of things going on and she had no

645
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.400
idea what to do or who to call. So yeah,

646
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.000
so she just hit us up and we went out

647
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:34.519
there for about a good three days, you know, to

648
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:35.119
see what we can do.

649
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.800
Yeah, it's so nine foot So that's one of two

650
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:47.480
things pretty much. Right. So whether it's sasquatch or dog man,

651
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:54.360
what is your do you have experiences with one or both?

652
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.719
I've had experiences with dog man, sasquatch, and skinwalkers.

653
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:03.360
Skin walkers as well. Yeah, can you share any of those?

654
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.639
Yeah, man, yeah, uh So this place we went to

655
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:12.639
was in Whitleyville, Tennessee. So this area we went to,

656
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.760
like I said, this, this is this girl. She was

657
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.920
having problems on her land, so basically a nutshell. She

658
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.679
moved there and like I said, she had this cave

659
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.320
that was thirty feet away from her house. So it's

660
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.440
just she was Yeah, and I'm not gonna lie.

661
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.559
Like the area like like like real life cave, like limestone,

662
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:30.639
the whole thing right up.

663
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.239
Cave man. Yeah, they actually had the they actually had

664
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.119
the Tennessee Caving Convention. Go there for certain colleges just

665
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.480
to just to freaking check it out, you know. But

666
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.079
we actually learned that when we went over and talked

667
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.280
to her investigating and stuff. But anyways, so she moved there.

668
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.920
She went to this cave. She's a very spiritual person, right,

669
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.440
So she gave an offering a tobacco at the entrance

670
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.480
to the cave and just let the land know, like, hey,

671
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:56.800
we're living here. I'm just letting you know. This is

672
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.119
a pizza offering. Anybody in here or out here or

673
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.000
anything like that listening. She's like, we're here just to live,

674
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:07.320
you know, and basically just to respect your guys's land.

675
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.519
So he would go, here's an offering. Yeah, but she

676
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.760
didn't know though. What happened was after she did that,

677
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.719
everything just went gangbusters, right. So she started to see

678
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.559
shadow people, She started to see forms of dog men,

679
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.079
she saw footprints that led to her chicken coop. A

680
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.679
lot of her chickens were getting killed. And then that's

681
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.639
when her and her husband put up cameras, right. So

682
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.239
next thing you know, you see on the cameras, her

683
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.559
cameras are getting moved or getting pulled down. Everything cut out,

684
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.760
and yeah, her chickens were just dying. Slowly feathers were

685
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.559
going into the cave. So when she started seeing shadow

686
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:44.559
things running in and out of her land in front

687
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.760
of her ports and stuff, so she had no idea

688
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.760
what to do. So anyway, so she called us up,

689
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.320
and she called out Jessica Jones, and so me and

690
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.559
Jessica linked up, and she talked to one of her

691
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.719
buddies who because she had an idea, like she said

692
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.559
it was, I was like, well, this is freaking dog man.

693
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:08.480
I don't know. I was at a loss. So she's like,

694
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.159
I think it could be skinwalker about I was like,

695
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:15.360
I thought skinwalkers were on the West coast, Midwest stuff

696
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.599
like that. Yeah, so she's like, well, if there is

697
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.320
an Indian tribe, there's always a medicine man, and if

698
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.960
there's a medicine man, there can always be a skinwalker anywhere.

699
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.119
I'm like, okay, well, you know, try to dig up

700
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.119
as much intelligent can. So anyways, yeah, so she talked

701
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.280
to one of her buddies who was called William Nighthawk.

702
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.400
He is as yeah, so he's living nowadays, but he

703
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.920
is he was taught of the old ways basically, so

704
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.639
his grandma was a medicine woman. So she learned the

705
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.880
black arts, and she also learned I guess, like the

706
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.320
white arts, basically like the light arts. So but he

707
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:50.960
is he is a man of God, but he also

708
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.280
practices that stuff too, so he's kind of caught up

709
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.360
in the middle of it. But anyways, so he did

710
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.679
some digging in this area where she lived at and

711
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.079
it turns out that what he found out through his

712
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.480
through his tribe and the people and stuff like that,

713
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:05.559
and he also worked for the DoD at the time.

714
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.960
He found out in a nutshell basically that a long

715
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.360
time ago there were there was a I guess, a

716
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.920
battle between three tribes and against these three tribes were

717
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.079
against these three rogue medicine men that were in the area. Right,

718
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.280
So these three medicine men were actually skinwalkers I guess

719
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.719
at the time, so they were causing havoc between these

720
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.920
three tribes. All these three tribes I guess got their

721
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.199
best warriors together and their other medicinemen that were good,

722
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.960
and they basically tracked these guys and they chased them

723
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.679
into this cave. Well, it turns out that they killed

724
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.519
them in this cave, but they also put a hex

725
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.320
on this cave that their spirits, a skinwalker couldn't come

726
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.119
out right. So basically a nutshell, anything that's offered at

727
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.000
the entrance of that cave breaks that contact, right, breaks

728
00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:00.280
that barrier, so kind of funny. It's almost like a

729
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.920
virgin lit the candle, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

730
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.519
so yeah, so that was basically what happened in Nutshell.

731
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.400
He's like, she she literally offered made an offering at

732
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.159
the entrance at that cave, at the entrance of that cave,

733
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.400
and then all this happened.

734
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.159
Right, thinking she's doing the right thing, right, yeah, and

735
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.360
oh man, yeah, so yeah, that's intense.

736
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.000
Yeah. So yeah, so after that, we we all got there,

737
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.360
and then of course I'm looking for something physical, so

738
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.800
you know, because I'm seeing things that are physically dying,

739
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.400
like chickens and whatnot, and you know, seeing footprints and

740
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.519
taking pictures of that and seeing the claw marks on

741
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.320
the house, and so I'm like, okay, yeah, man, there's

742
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.360
definitely definitely something coming out of this cave. And what

743
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.199
was cool was that on the side instead of a

744
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.639
crypto honey, you know, we love going camping and we

745
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.039
love cave and we actually love we actually really do

746
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.239
love like blunking and all that. Yeah, so it's like,

747
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.800
oh man, hell, yes that's awesome. So anyways, yes, we

748
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:04.599
get there, we actually set up camp and all that,

749
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:10.840
and we uh, my boy, and it was yes, we

750
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:11.880
set up camp and all that.

751
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.000
I'm just gonna throw our girth.

752
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.679
It was, yes, we set up camp and then we

753
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:17.440
actually throw up a drone and then we do like

754
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.599
a perimeter sweep and all that as Jessica's talking to

755
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.639
this girl and then we're checking out this area and

756
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.519
and uh yeah, so we're just trying to gather like

757
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.559
as much intel as we can. So next thing, we know, like,

758
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.400
you know what, let's just go in the cave, man,

759
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.440
Let's just go in there. So we actually get our

760
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.840
night vision cam lights, flashlights, rope, so we go in

761
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:46.280
there as far as we can go. And we actually

762
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.360
have two guys at the entrance to the cave and

763
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.800
then there's about a good six of us going into

764
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.599
the cave and yeah, so we just go as far

765
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.639
as we can go, man, And we literally had to

766
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.599
stop because we actually ran a rope. Yeah, we all

767
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.760
together we brought like about a good three hundred fifty

768
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.719
put a rope. Say about we have four Hundt rope

769
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.119
something like that, so we actually had to turn back around.

770
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:09.880
So yeah, like I said, we actually ran out of rope.

771
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.679
So but other than that, we saw we saw claw marks.

772
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:19.159
That was weird. Man, We're going through tight crevices and

773
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.239
stuff and we're seeing saw feathers. We saw like a

774
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:26.400
little like we actually ran to like this little like

775
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:29.599
fire pit area. It was crazy. It was like a

776
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.360
little fire pit but you looked straight up through the

777
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.320
cave and it was almost looked like a chimney shot

778
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:39.480
that go up and and uh yeah, so yeah, so

779
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.559
we did that and yeah, so we basically got as

780
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.320
much intel as we could. So so we kind of

781
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.320
just really didn't see anything. We didn't see no footprints,

782
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.639
no nothing, but they did like their whole paranormal spiritual stuff.

783
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.039
So I just kind of back off from that because

784
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.199
I don't like to tap into that. But uh, other

785
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.679
than that, she let us know where there's where there

786
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:06.480
was other caves where she's seen I guess like the

787
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.239
ninth Foot entity run out of so we want to

788
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.239
go investigate that. And then we ran in and we

789
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.679
actually found another cave that was even farther, So we

790
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.039
went into there and then that was when me and

791
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:23.719
the guys thought we saw a crawler, like a freaking crawler.

792
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:26.840
And so.

793
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.119
As far as you know, when it comes to the

794
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.920
appellation rules and all that, don't whistle. So one of

795
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.239
the videos that my buddy was recording, we literally saw

796
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.719
this shadow thing poke out like that and put its

797
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.239
head back. So I started whistling to see if we

798
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.480
can coax it out. So at the same time, all

799
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.360
of us had our pistols up, you know, yea, and yeah,

800
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.760
just it didn't didn't come out. So we're like, well,

801
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.360
the cave narrows to where we can't have to go

802
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.559
in a single file. I'm like, now, man, this feels

803
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:00.800
like a fatal final let's just back.

804
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:01.320
Yeah.

805
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:04.800
Yeah, this is like, yeah, this is good man.

806
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.360
Yeah. So we're just basically just uh basically just just

807
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.760
walked out. So and then we climbed back out of

808
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.159
the cave, and then we found some more footprints of

809
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.440
this of this thing. I will actually send you the

810
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.400
footprints and stuff of the pictures. So and then we

811
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.119
tracked it to this barn. It was in the middle

812
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.320
of nowhere and yeah, so it was it was it

813
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.639
was in the middle of nowhere and I actually have

814
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.159
to show you the video on that too. And yeah,

815
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.079
so we didn't really find anything. We just saw the

816
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:40.360
footprints go in this barn and then after that, after

817
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.719
that we we actually see anything. So my buddy's got

818
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.400
video of let's clearing out this barn and you know,

819
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.239
we actually couldn't find anything. So our objective was to

820
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.480
try to find something physical, and then Jessica's role was

821
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.800
trying to find something like spiritual and stuff like that.

822
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.119
So we came up broke, like we you know, we

823
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.760
we basically didn't find any things. So we just came

824
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.320
up you know, broken when it comes to uh, finding

825
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.719
anything physical. So we're like, okay, that was kind of

826
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.400
a bus so but other than that, that's when we

827
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.840
know it's okay, this is definitely definitely spiritual. So we

828
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.039
actually have we actually we actually prayed over her house

829
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.480
and we yes, we prayed over her, paid over the house,

830
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.159
pread over the land, and then after that, man, we

831
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.159
just talked about Jesus a little bit and then you know,

832
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.280
we said, hey, we said the best we could. If

833
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.920
there's anything else, you know physically, you guys, see anything,

834
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.559
you know, try to get it on camera, try to

835
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.400
click hair samples if you can, and then you know,

836
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.280
just you know, just basically you just give me a

837
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:33.880
call back and you know, we'll try to get the

838
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.360
guys up here again as quick as possible. But other

839
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.840
than that, man, you know, it's basically, you know, just

840
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:40.239
the whole nuts and bolts of it. When it comes

841
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:44.320
back from her, uh yeah, as far as that, her

842
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:45.960
and her husband actually had to move out, so they

843
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:46.920
were like, yeah, we're done.

844
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.840
So they just oh, man, now did the MOCAU this

845
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:50.880
or yeah, So.

846
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.960
It turns out that, uh, the shadow entities and stuff

847
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.360
like that, we're getting in the house now. She was

848
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.159
having these things in the house, so it was just

849
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.679
getting too much where it was her. It was actually

850
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.360
her sanity going now. So she's like, you know, we're done.

851
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:09.199
So they moved out a little bit towards Nashville in

852
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:09.800
the area.

853
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.880
So, yeah, which to get into the house, that's usually

854
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.119
some sort of consent thing.

855
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.079
But yeah, yeah, I think it was because I know

856
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.800
that she was still trying to talk to them through

857
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.239
come on yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah, talk box and stuff

858
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:27.559
like that.

859
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.840
So yeah, yeah, I mean, but it is what it is, people,

860
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:37.119
you know, it is different strokes for different folks.

861
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.199
Right, So yeah, as far as that, yeah, but I

862
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.719
know she's not I unless she's not tapping into that anymore.

863
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.760
So you know, she kind of kind of as far

864
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:48.320
as I know, she went down that rabbit hole for

865
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.079
a little bit. But yeah, other than that, Yeah, I

866
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.119
just talked to her about like a week ago. I'm

867
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.559
doing pretty good now good?

868
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:07.280
Yeah, wow, what about can you talk about any any

869
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.920
of the other even it's the Kentucky or Alabama?

870
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.880
Yeah, man, okay, as far as.

871
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.400
Well, what do you want to talk about you know?

872
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.360
Okay, man, whatever you want on an open book.

873
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:24.440
Yeah, either one or both.

874
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:30.800
It's up to you give me, okay. So so yeah,

875
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.079
so as far as the Kentucky one, I'll throw that

876
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.000
one up real quick. That was actually the first time

877
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:36.679
I went on. It was it was like a sponsored

878
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.400
big foot hunt I went on. So with that one,

879
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.199
my buddy Cameron had everything going good and all that.

880
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.960
So we were out there for like two and a

881
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.679
half days. So this area where we're at, it was

882
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:57.280
the Mammoth Cave Mammoth Cave International, uh A National Force.

883
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.840
So yeah, so we're out there and this era we

884
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.960
were at, we actually had to take a we actually

885
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.880
drive that. We actually had to drive the vehicles on

886
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.719
this ferry, right, and it took us across the river. Well,

887
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.239
the crazy thing is is that they opened at seven

888
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:13.800
and they closed at seven at night, so he had

889
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.880
like that twelve hour gap. If anything happens, you're on

890
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.960
your own. So I was like, oh man, I'm like,

891
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.559
this is a bad feeling. So oh well, it is

892
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.760
what it is. It is part of the game. So anyway,

893
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.000
so we do that and then we set up camp

894
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:28.559
and then we're out there, you know, going to these

895
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.760
certain hot spots on like this mountain island. So so

896
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.119
he sets up like he sets up like chicken liver

897
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.159
and stuff like that and puts up cameras and stuff.

898
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.239
So this guy's on another level man.

899
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.800
So so like, are we talking about the national park? Yes, yes,

900
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.159
national park. Yeah, it's a national park.

901
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.440
Have a national park. Yeah. Anyways, yes, we does all that.

902
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.800
But so we're not getting any bites or anything like that.

903
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.960
So we actually head up to this other area and

904
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.639
it's pushing like two in the morning. As we're meandering

905
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.800
up this mountain, we've bend. We actually bend in this

906
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.440
corner and we see this suv man the doors were

907
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.039
just flung open, and I'm like, oh, this is weird.

908
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:14.880
So I told him, hey, stop. So I has an

909
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.039
ex law enforcement guy the same thing, like, you know,

910
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.960
you want to go and investigate, right, So so so

911
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:21.800
the thing that caught my eye was I don't really

912
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.840
care about the doors being open. It was like the baby,

913
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:26.519
the freaking baby carry that was on the ground and

914
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:28.559
the blanket was on the ground. That's what got me.

915
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.239
I'm like, oh God, now, hopefully anything bad didn't happen,

916
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.760
you know. So we get out, we investigate, and the

917
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.280
way the vehicle is parked, it's like parked facing this trail,

918
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.440
and this trail leads down to the river, and so

919
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.480
as it's facing the river, you have like a tree

920
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:56.079
line that's surrounding it. And yeah, so as that's going on,

921
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.599
I'm over there looking at the driver door. I go

922
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.440
over there to the to the baby care looking there.

923
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.239
There's no baby in there, thank god. So that's a

924
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.119
good thing. Well, one of the guys who went his

925
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.440
name's Ben. He was a big time skeptic. And that's

926
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.960
the thing I love, as I love bringing skeptics, so

927
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:16.960
it kind of like, you know, it kind of like

928
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:20.360
makes them or break some but so when it came

929
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.119
to that, he was on the passenger side looking gathering information.

930
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.599
My buddy Cameron's on the phone, and you got all

931
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.039
the rest of the people looking around, how long and

932
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.599
see if anybody's okay? For anybody around At the same time,

933
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.400
I'm looking at the driver door, and I go from

934
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.519
the driver door over to the passengers, over to the

935
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:45.079
over to the over to the back. Right behind the

936
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.400
driver's seat, I heard this whoa, like this big guttally

937
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:53.280
like growl almost but it was like almost like a

938
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:58.559
gorilla like that. But it wasn't that that got me.

939
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.199
It felt like my back was up against the sub

940
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.599
whipper like a metalica concert, and as soon as it

941
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.679
did that, I felt my back get hit in like

942
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.559
my intestines and I felt like I felt like I

943
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.679
literally felt like all my organs just like shook. And

944
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.199
then my head started to get dizzy and I almost

945
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.840
almost fell in. My left hand grabbed the top of

946
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.840
the vehicle and then I literally spun pulled my pistol

947
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.800
that went all the way around to the other side,

948
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.239
looking and then my buddy Ben pulled out his pistol

949
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.199
and he's like, did you and hear that, did you?

950
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.199
And hear that? So that gave me confirmation Cool, I'm

951
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.599
not crazy and uh yeah. So yeah, so after that,

952
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.599
I'm just kind of like, what the freak was that

953
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.440
I didn't know anything about infra sound right. So so

954
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.199
my buddy Cameron's on the phone with the park rangers

955
00:51:57.960 --> 00:51:59.800
as he's trying to talk to him, tell him what's

956
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.880
going wrong, and uh he comes running over. He's like,

957
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.800
what was that? And you know, I told him. The

958
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.519
next thing we know, my buddy Zuke, who helped me

959
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.639
start the podcast, was the camera guy, and he just

960
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.880
he just does things and he doesn't think. So he

961
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.880
goes like, oh cool, what was that noise? And he's

962
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.480
running up to the bush and I go running up

963
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.000
to him and grab him like what are you doing?

964
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.239
You know?

965
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:23.719
And I pull him back and next thing we know,

966
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.480
we hear this. It literally sounds like a four wheeler

967
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:30.920
is crashing through the trees. Man, So I'm just like,

968
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.840
what the break? So anyways, yeah, so that was that,

969
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.000
and then as he's talking to the park rangers, we

970
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.719
kind of just gather everybody. So me, Ben Zuck and

971
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.320
two other guys we go straight down that trail that

972
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.199
the that the vehicle was parked in front of to

973
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.360
see if anybody's down there towards the river. So we

974
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.360
didn't see anybody. So it was the whole thing was

975
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:57.440
just weird, man, but suv, Yeah, it was. It was open.

976
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.440
Everything was flung open, blows were out, everything was spilled

977
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.519
on the ground like it was weird man, like something

978
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:04.159
drug him out or they just left in a hurry,

979
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:04.599
I don't.

980
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:08.039
Know, or or something rummings through it. Yeah, did that

981
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.119
how it looked exactly?

982
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:13.360
Yeah? So yeah, so that was that and then yeah,

983
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:14.599
we didn't hear anything else about that.

984
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.039
Man, it's always crazy.

985
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.800
Yeah, and uh, I think like the scariest one I've

986
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.840
ever been on was in was in Mountain Mountain City, Tennessee.

987
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.559
So uh, this is where I learned I never ever

988
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:36.480
go out without at least five guys anymore. So I

989
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.199
got to hook you up with one of my good buddies.

990
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:42.559
His name is Nick Balente. He was in the military

991
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:43.840
as well. He was in the Army. He was in

992
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.920
Special Forces and he worked for Blackwater at the time,

993
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.360
and then he worked for the I think look for

994
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.639
the CIA. Anyways, Yeah, I then tell you, but at

995
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.840
the same time, he was actually part of a curritter

996
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:57.559
control team.

997
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.440
Okay, okay, yeah.

998
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:01.760
Yes, we did that for a couple of years, and

999
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.840
then he is in charge of the International Dog Ban

1000
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:09.119
Project is what it is. So anyways, yeah, so he's

1001
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.559
the one that told me. He's like, look, man, because

1002
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.800
I was telling about what happened to me in Mountain City, Tennessee,

1003
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.480
and he's like, look, dude, you never ever go with

1004
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.360
that least five guys. Man. I was like, well, yeah,

1005
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.000
you're right, and I learned the hard way on that.

1006
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.159
So in a nutshell, we got asked to go to

1007
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.519
this area because this lady was having problems on her land.

1008
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.039
Of course, and in Mountain City, Tennessee, there's a lot

1009
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.039
of homeless out there. There's a lot of people in

1010
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:37.599
the mountain the logging roads. Yeah, but there's a lot

1011
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.679
of but there's a lot of people that end up

1012
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.280
going missing or they see animal attacks, right, people getting

1013
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.519
ripped apart. So they're like, oh, this is a good

1014
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.159
area to look at, So we go investigate this area.

1015
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.360
We talked to a lady who talked to a couple

1016
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.400
of local so law enforcement. So they kind of stare

1017
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.199
us in this direction where they're where they have like

1018
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:57.880
a bunch of logging roads at and stuff, and this

1019
00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.719
is where like a lot of homeless and stuff are at.

1020
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.760
So we go check it out, talk to locals and

1021
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.599
they're like, yeah, you guys want to see some high strangers.

1022
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.199
Just keep going, just keep going down these down these

1023
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.559
log roads. So we go and we go about like

1024
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:16.960
nine miles deep and anyways, after that, we just we

1025
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.400
just go as far as the trucks can go, and uh,

1026
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.920
we just set up camp and then we just you know,

1027
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.119
just start start cooking and like, Okay, this is pretty

1028
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.519
good area. This is where the where the locals say

1029
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.000
that this is where like the blend up missing or

1030
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.000
the you know, they find people dead and stuff like that.

1031
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:39.159
So yeah, it's a good spot. So anyways, yes, we're

1032
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:42.840
just chilling out, cooking. And at that same time, I

1033
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.960
only bring my buddy Paul. He's been with me since

1034
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.119
the beginning, him and Brian have Brian couldn't make it,

1035
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.480
he had some stuff come up. And my buddy Juice

1036
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:56.039
and uh, the X weren't on the team just yet,

1037
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:59.880
so so my buddy Taylor, he was the one I

1038
00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.760
was vet and at the time he was a total skeptic.

1039
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.119
He went just because hey man, it's camping, but I'm

1040
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.800
gonna go bigfooting whatever. I'll just go hang out and

1041
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:16.800
basically notice to watch you fail. So anyways, yeah, so anyways,

1042
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:19.800
so we just get done eating, Paul goes in his tent.

1043
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.960
It's pushing, he's pushing about like midnight. He gets in

1044
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.559
his tent, He's like, hey man, I'm gonna my crash

1045
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:29.840
out a little bit. Like all right, man, go ahead.

1046
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.199
So me and Taylor up, you know, chunking the fire,

1047
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:37.519
chip chat and drinking coffee whatnot. And so after that,

1048
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.679
where we're at, we're we have the truck parked a

1049
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.400
little ways out. We actually had a high can a

1050
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:49.320
little bit and there's there's there's like there's like mountains.

1051
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.400
I want to say mountains compared to the Colorado, but

1052
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.880
here in Tennessee, I guess they're a mountain, but to me,

1053
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.559
they you actually had hills on all sides.

1054
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.920
Right yeah, kind of like a holler, right yeah yeah.

1055
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:07.800
Yeah. So so we start we both hear something coming

1056
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.199
down this holler, Grant's break in stuff like that. The

1057
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.920
thing is though with me, is that anytime we go camping,

1058
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.599
anytime we do anything. I always set a fifty foot

1059
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.039
like a fifty foot radius perimeter alarm around where we're at,

1060
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.400
you know, you know, set up security. You don't just

1061
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.960
give us heads up. So I did that, Thank god,

1062
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.559
I did that because this thing that was working its

1063
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:33.360
way down the down the haller.

1064
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:38.119
What what do you usually use? Yeah?

1065
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.559
So I use three things. Of course, you know, you

1066
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:44.280
can go your old fashioned fishing bells, right, or I

1067
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.320
use door alarms or window alarm.

1068
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.360
Like driveway alarms or things like that.

1069
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:49.920
Yeah.

1070
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:51.880
Well, you know, like those alarms you know you can

1071
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:55.519
stick on your window goes. Yeah that or if not,

1072
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.320
the old fashioned a shotgun pin yep, shotgun boom, you

1073
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:03.320
know that. So yeah, so what I used at that one?

1074
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.840
I use like the door alarms, like the perimeter alarms,

1075
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:07.880
the door alarms, the window alarms. Yes, so I used that.

1076
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:09.960
So I just got those, put some JB willed on

1077
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:12.599
there and thicker magnet. We're good to go, fishing line,

1078
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:16.079
we're good to go. But did that and uh, anyways, yes,

1079
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.440
those things working its way down the haller and we

1080
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:22.800
hear it, but we hear it stop. So we're focused

1081
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.599
on the north part of the area. We're just kind

1082
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.960
of looking. Well, I can tell I can definitely tell

1083
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.239
that my buddy te' is kind of like getting nervous.

1084
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:32.960
He's like, dude, what is that? What is that? I

1085
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.880
don't know, man, you tell me. And he's like, go's

1086
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:37.760
some peral folk out here. I go, I don't know, man,

1087
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.719
and he's like, uh, this don't this don't seem right.

1088
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:46.360
So we hear something running by pedal on the left

1089
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:53.039
side of us, running and Taylor's just like breathing heavy

1090
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:54.880
and he's like, dude, this is this is this is

1091
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.119
a trip And I'm like, yeah, man, it's you know,

1092
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.719
whatever's here, it's here. And then we're hearing something running

1093
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.519
on the right of us and it stops and next

1094
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.199
thing I know, the perimeter behind us goes off. The

1095
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:12.760
alarm goes off. So yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

1096
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.719
No, I was just gonna say, so you've got multiple things.

1097
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.480
It's either that or or it's the same thing, but

1098
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.239
it's circling now this way.

1099
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.320
Yeah. So yeah, So anyways, like I said, like, the

1100
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.639
south alarm goes off, so we get up, rifles up.

1101
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:29.360
What sucks about that those that certain alarm is that

1102
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.599
I have to go reset it every time it goes off.

1103
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.840
Yeah right, physically reset it. If not, you'll keep going

1104
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:39.199
on my So we go over there, reset it, don't

1105
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.880
see anything. What sucked though at the time was this

1106
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.400
was actually in November, so all the leaves have fallen.

1107
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.639
You can't really see good footprints, but you can see pathways.

1108
00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:52.559
That's it. So yeah, so we really can't see much.

1109
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.039
So you know, we have our MVG's on, we got

1110
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:57.559
our rifles up light stuff like that, so we can't

1111
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.960
see anything. So after that, I get the south alarm.

1112
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.840
I'm done. Next thing, I know, the North alarm goes off.

1113
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:07.159
So we're worried about Paul. So we go hauling over there.

1114
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.480
Paul's in his tent with his pistol out. He's like,

1115
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.440
hey man, we got contact. I was like yeah, He's

1116
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:13.519
like all right, just let me know, and he goes

1117
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:18.000
back to bed man and that pissed me off. How's

1118
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.800
wrong with you man? You know? So anyway, so yeah,

1119
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:23.559
so he goes back and he's just chilling out in

1120
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:28.400
his tent and sleeping, and then after that it just

1121
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.519
kind of gets quiet, and then me and Taylor are

1122
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:34.800
kind of like back to back stoking what we have

1123
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.480
left of the fire. Well, then it starts to rain

1124
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.079
and we're like, man, real, next thing, we know, all

1125
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:46.159
the perimeter alarms go off. Man, so I part my language.

1126
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.199
I just say fuck it, and I just pick a

1127
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.159
tree that's a good twenty yards out and I just

1128
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.920
start firing. Boom boom boom, lay off like three to

1129
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.840
four rounds and we hear these things just running away

1130
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:07.239
kind of. It's kind of and then we just sit there. Well,

1131
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.360
it's still raining. The fire goes out, so Taylor's like, dude,

1132
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.239
I'm just going into my tent. I'm like, yeah, man,

1133
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.960
that's cool. I am too. So he goes in his tent.

1134
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:19.039
I go in my tent and Paul's like, you guys good.

1135
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:21.199
I'm like, yeah, we're good, man. Whatever.

1136
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.760
A couple rounds, so yeah.

1137
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.599
He was away easy on you guys good. I'm like,

1138
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:28.239
I don't know, man. So he kind of pokes his

1139
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.519
head out with the pistol and looks and as we

1140
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:36.320
meander in our freaking tents, so he goes asleep. I'm

1141
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:40.480
still up. I'm proned out, rifle up nods on. I'm

1142
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:44.480
just listening. I'm not hearing anything. It's just quiet, and

1143
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.519
I hate that anticipation. One thing, I hate his anticipation.

1144
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:49.400
And.

1145
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.360
I start to kind of doze off. So I doze

1146
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:58.199
off and I wake up with this god awful zombie noise, like,

1147
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:03.079
well it was Taylor. Taylor, I guess, is out of

1148
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:07.119
his tent and he's throwing up. So I get up

1149
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:11.000
and I'm like, dude, you're okay. Yeah I know. So

1150
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.360
I'm like, dude, are you okay? And next thing, I know,

1151
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:18.039
the perimeter alarm literally behind his tent goes off, and

1152
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:22.719
you know, we see these tree shaken. So Taylor spins

1153
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.480
around and says it. He starts sending rounds in that direction.

1154
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.079
I start sending rounds out a tree trunk, and I'm like, dude,

1155
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.119
you don't know what's out there. Stop sending rounds and something.

1156
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:35.760
You don't know what's out there. You just pick that

1157
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.400
tree and just shoot. You know, we get a visible target,

1158
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:39.960
you know, you don't know what the freak's out there,

1159
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.400
you know. So, but we had that conversation later, Yeah,

1160
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:46.880
you're what the hell?

1161
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:47.159
You know?

1162
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:52.320
So after that, he sends rounds down. I send rounds down,

1163
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:57.480
and that's it. Everything just stops. So we go we

1164
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.239
actually go fix that alarm, and we head back and

1165
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.800
I'm like, dude, what the freak happened? And he's like,

1166
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:07.920
I woke up. I was sitting up. I kept hearing this,

1167
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.800
and as I come out of my tent, I pulled

1168
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:18.800
my rifle to look around, and I heard this, and

1169
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:22.599
I say, I know, I look up at the stars

1170
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:26.800
and everything that starts spinning, man, and then I literally

1171
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:29.360
just start throwing up. He's like, but here's the thing

1172
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.800
is that we all ate the same thing. None of

1173
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.480
you guys are sick, you know, So what I don't

1174
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.239
know what was that? He goes. Next thing I know

1175
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.360
is that I heard this almost like this growl and

1176
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:45.480
this like grunt, and I'm throwing up. Everything's spinning, man,

1177
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:48.280
He's like, and everything on my inside is just weird.

1178
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.000
I'm like, I think you got hit with it, town brother?

1179
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:52.400
What it was? Man?

1180
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:53.280
So?

1181
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:54.880
I think they hit you with in for sound and

1182
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.239
you know they were going to come get you. So

1183
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.599
and then after that, he's like, dude, I'm a straight

1184
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.280
up believer, man, because who in the hell in the

1185
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.079
right mind is going to be running around out here

1186
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:05.840
in the nighttime.

1187
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.559
That's one thing that yeah, it's one thing to say, like,

1188
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.760
it's one thing like when you're telling the story, right,

1189
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.320
and people that have experienced this stuff, we get it

1190
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.880
because most not everyone, but a lot of us have

1191
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:27.159
experienced similar things, right. And I mean I've I've got

1192
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.199
friends that won't go in the woods anymore. Like that's it,

1193
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.559
Like they're done. So it's what I always say to

1194
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:36.199
like my family, they were when they start, when they

1195
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:40.599
start in, I'm like, hey, you're more than welcome to

1196
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.599
come out there with us. You know, you turn around

1197
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.639
and you won't want to go in the woods anymore.

1198
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.119
You won't want to go for a hike around you

1199
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:53.920
know the lake. Let alone go in something deep, right, Yeah,

1200
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.840
we do most of our or do. We do a

1201
01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:02.519
lot of work in the Alleghany National Forest and stuff

1202
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.559
gets live. Brother, I mean right there in Mountain City.

1203
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:13.400
You're right by Jacob's Creek Range, that Appalachian aplash and

1204
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:17.159
trail runs through there everything, So you're like in it

1205
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.960
in Mountain City Like that's.

1206
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.280
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie man. After that, I literally like, hey, man,

1207
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.039
let's just tell you guy, let's just slow down a

1208
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.800
little bit. So we literally didn't go out for about

1209
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:30.800
a good eight months. Man.

1210
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.559
Yeah, because you're right, on that that's right on the border,

1211
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:39.360
like just well it's just on the Tennessee side, and

1212
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.719
that seems to be a very target rich environment. Is

1213
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:48.079
that whole border area between Tennessee and North Carolina. You

1214
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:52.400
know when you get into some of those deep spots,

1215
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:59.519
like there's some weird shit going on and that's not

1216
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.880
just you know, that's that's so many people say that.

1217
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:11.800
So it's a that's amazing, but man, I actually hate it.

1218
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.599
I don't want to end this, but I'm running out

1219
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:22.320
of time. So what I would like to do is,

1220
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.199
you know, this is obviously I think it's a first

1221
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:30.400
conversation of multiple that we can have. But if you

1222
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:34.199
could just tell everybody all your information again where they

1223
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:37.519
can find you and all that fun stuff.

1224
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:41.039
Yeah, I mean so, like I said, I have a

1225
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.480
have a podcast, and if you guys want to hit

1226
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.159
me up. You guys got a story, you guys want

1227
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:47.920
to chit chat, or you guys need me a prayer

1228
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.320
request or anything like that. There's got any encounters stories,

1229
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:51.800
hit me up.

1230
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:56.480
But I'll put the website on the show notes.

1231
01:06:56.239 --> 01:07:00.159
Too, Crypti Warfare gmail dot com where you can me

1232
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:05.280
up on Instagram, crypto Warfare or Facebook, I'm wonder Drewski Andrew.

1233
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:07.880
You can find me that way. And then if you

1234
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:11.079
guys have any I guess, any critter problems or anything

1235
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.159
like that, you can hit me up as well. H

1236
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:17.000
C dot w Operations seventeen nine oh five at gmail

1237
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.679
dot com or cwops at ProtonMail dot com.

1238
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:26.920
That's how I'm gonna put it to credit problems. All right, man,

1239
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.199
I really appreciate you coming on and again. I think

1240
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.559
we'll be doing this again before you know it. Uh

1241
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:34.639
oh yeah, because I want to hear some more stories,

1242
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.039
all right, man, appreciate it.

1243
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:43.000
Yeah.

1244
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.800
I got bad thoughts that make my mind skared, hold

1245
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.679
me hostage, and they don't fight fair. Who don't pray

1246
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.320
for me and wipe on my tests?

1247
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:51.320
Who don't save me?

1248
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:54.320
If you not right here, move this darkness and make

1249
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.039
my sight clear, take me your way, because I don't

1250
01:07:57.159 --> 01:07:59.639
like you. Don't stop my past day fill in the night,

1251
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:11.280
wake me up. I'm trapped in my nightmares. We trapped

1252
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:26.520
in my nightmas.

1253
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:27.079
Trowning, trowning, I mouth the deeping apparitions of all my demons.

1254
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:30.760
All my thoughts are come making treason, all alone, going

1255
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.960
you me screaming manifestations of my fierce regrets that stretched

1256
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:36.920
out for light years.

1257
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:39.720
You can almost touch the light homies right there, body

1258
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:43.760
free by trapping my Nightmas, I don't let me ja

1259
01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:48.680
our life of fad. All my life is faith now,

1260
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:50.880
all my life is faced, so.

1261
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.720
Matter you don't miss Jenny.

1262
01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:55.640
My life is failing.

1263
01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:58.520
Her life is fading.

1264
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.600
Aspen.

1265
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:59.720
Like we check in my Nightmas, we n