April 17, 2026

Flaskback Friday: Exploring the Bigfoot Mapping Project| Scott Tompkins

Flaskback Friday: Exploring the Bigfoot Mapping Project| Scott Tompkins
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Flaskback Friday: Exploring the Bigfoot Mapping Project| Scott Tompkins
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Join us for an engaging conversation with Scott Tompkins, creator of the Bigfoot Mapping Project, a crowd-sourced database that collects and analyzes Bigfoot reports from across North America. Discover how GIS, data standardization, and AI are shaping the future of cryptid research and what the numbers might say about Bigfoot's elusive population.

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Rot playing troop in the minds of the beat Young.

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All right, we're getting comments Scott's Scott.

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Tompkins Bigfoot Mapping Project. Tell us who you are and

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what you do.

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Let's start with the bigfoot stuff. As you say, I'm

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Scott Tompkins. I created the Bigfoot Mapping Project, and the

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Bigfoot Mapping Project is a crowd sourced repository for Bigfoot reports, sightings, audibles, evidence,

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et cetera, all to be submitted by the general public

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who's had any experience or found anything to do with

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bigfoot into the map so we can get into the map,

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you know further on in the episode, but essentially it's

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a map centric crowd sourced repository for people to access, explore,

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and submit any information that they have about Bigfoot. Now me,

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I'm from New York, so it's nice to be chatting

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with another New Yorker like we were talking about in

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the green room. I'm from downstate near I'm from Beacon,

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which is about an hour north of New York City

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in the Hudson Valley, and I grew up out in

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the woods fishing, hunting, boating, camping, you name it, and

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went to college for gis which is geographic information systems,

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which is the background I have to be making the

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maps and the applications that I create. And from there

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I got into geophysical exploration, which is oil and gas

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exploration seismic some people notice seismic, and it's basically making

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a sonogram of the earth so you can see all

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the layers and geology beneath and the formations and faults

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and everything that's beneath the surface of the earth for

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basically drilling oil wells. And from there, during the exploration

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I was doing, I would talk to people about Bigfoot

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because I was out in middle of nowhere in a

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lot of places, and so they would tell me what

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was happening on their properties and their relatives, experiences, etc.

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And that gave me the idea to create the projects.

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So my professional in a way, my professional and educational

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experience and background has directly unintentionally influenced the creation of

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the Bigfoot mapping project, because had I not taken that route,

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I never would have had the background, or the capabilities,

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or the understanding or idea to capture all of this

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information in a semi novice anthropological anthropological approach in the

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application and in the database. So that's a little bit

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about me. I think you know, Mora will come out

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throughout the episode, but that's in a nutshell who I

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am and why I created the project.

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Yeah, and it's an amazing tool. I take a lot

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of notes just so you know I'm here for it.

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I need to.

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Ever, since I had a kid, I forget everything.

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No kidd, So what I was looking at is oh yeah,

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So and I'll ask the questions a little bit. But so,

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all right, so Bigfoot Mapping Project. Obviously, I'm pretty sure

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what you're going to answer when I say, what was

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your entry into this whole world of you know, high

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strangeness that that we kind of live in in this community.

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Was your gateway drug?

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Well, it was Bigfoot for sure, right, And so it's

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kind of a two fold answer. I touched on it

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earlier when I was doing the introducing myself, but prior

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to that, I had an experience on Mount Beacon that

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was kind of unexplainable. I was hiking with a friend

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around the backside of the reservoir.

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At the top of the mountain.

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There's a fire tower you can hike to, and you

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have to go around one of the trails goes around

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the backside of the reservoir and you can get to

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the fire tower and cup climb up and you can

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see the New York City skyline from top of the mountain.

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Is really cool. But as we were rounding the backside

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of the reservoir, there was basically a it would go.

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It went up a small hill and behind that hill

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was like a ridge that dropped down. And immediately behind

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that hill we couldn't see, but there was something screaming, guttural,

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like a gorilla tiger. I couldn't tell you what it was.

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And a really large tree started shaking violently all the

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way to the canopy. And this is something no way

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A grown man that you know, the rock couldn't have

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done it, you know. So we were fourteen, right, this

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is many years ago. We looked at each other and

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bolted down the mountain, right, And that was the first unexplainable,

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hair raising, scary thing. What it was I don't know,

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but we didn't have an easy explanation for it. So

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we've wondered what was that? Was a bigfoot? Was it

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somebody messing with us?

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We really don't know.

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So that got some curiosity, some adrenaline going and I

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realized that there could be some stuff out there in

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the woods that we you know, don't know or haven't seen,

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or is unexplained. Couple that with at the time, finding

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Bigfoot was really popular, right, gaining popularity, So it was

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a natural.

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Influence on.

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What I was interested in and the explanations I jumped to, right,

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because of course it was all over pop culture.

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You could and it was like, maybe that was Bigfoot.

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So fast forward and I've kind of forgotten about it.

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I've gone on through college and work and stuff. And then,

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like I was saying earlier, that experience out in the

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field really contributed to my idea to create the database.

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Where I was hearing other people's stories about Bigfoot, and

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I was hearing them in West Virginia, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, Louisiana,

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all over the place. So I started to realize that

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this wasn't just a localized phenomenon. It was happening everywhere,

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and that's where I got the idea to create the project.

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So my like I was saying in the intro, my background,

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my professional career, and then that's one experience in my

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early years really contributed to my gateway drug You know,

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they got me into Bigfoot, and I tell you know,

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I talked to Renee occasionally and I told her, I

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was like, you know, I used to watch you on

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Finding Bigfoot, and I kind of blame not blame you,

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but you had a direct influence on you know what

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I'm doing today through your show, and I don't think

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you know, how often do you get to say that

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to someone, right?

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So, yeah, that's cool.

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By the way, she's such.

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A lovely person, awesome, lovely person. So good to hear

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that stuff because sometimes, man, she's amazing, amazing those TV personalities.

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No, no, she's.

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I like her way more every time we talk. So

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I'm really lucky to have her in my corner. Is

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supportive and given advice and stuff, so I'm very grateful

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for that.

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I see. So I see that you get some of

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the data from BFROS. Why you get it directly from them?

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Or do do you like download what they have publicly available?

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So I started with a data set called Man Johnny's

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and that website stopped. It just stopped being updated in

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twenty sixteen. It was a really good website. It's a

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very good precursor, essentially to the Bigfoot mapping project. It's

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very similar in a lot of ways to what I'm doing.

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And what that website did was aggregate a lot of

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bigfoot databases into one map, essentially.

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Just a clearinghouse oft.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I got that data set, and in that data set,

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there's the BFRO, there's the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization, there's

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a bunch of other different organizations data all aggregated together.

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And I used that as a starting point to populate

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the map for the Bigfoot Mapping product, and then along

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with that, I started crowdsourcing reports. So yes, I do

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have to credit the BFRO and Man Johnny's and all

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of the other organizations that did a lot of work

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prior to me coming along with my integrating that into

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the map.

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Really that they open that up to you too, because

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sometimes you hear people protect.

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Their interestingly enough you can actually they have on the

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website if you find the website. I don't know if

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it's still live, but when I found it, they have

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a download section. You could just download the whole database publicly. Right,

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it's very very useful.

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Why the two maps?

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Why the two maps? Well, the first one the old map.

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If you want to I like.

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The classic, the classic map.

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I like classic, So the classic map is just all

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the points on the map. And then this is actually

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probably a deeper answer than you expect to this question.

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The classic map really just shows you points.

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On a map.

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There's no actual right, the actual location, but the symbology

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will the actual points start to coalesce, and which can

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really make the map look busier in certain areas and

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give you the wrong idea about what's happening in an area,

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because it's not. Those symbols are like a font size, right,

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They're not actually true to you know, ground scale per se.

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So what I've done, especially when you zoom out, when

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you zoom in, like they'll they'll disperse right the closer

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you are to you know, one to one scale. But

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when you zoom out, things start to get crowded, right,

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and it can give you the wrong idea. And there's

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tons of maps all over the internet that look like that, right,

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There's that There's one big Foot map. Everybody's probably seen it.

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It's like a bunch of big foot on a screenshot

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of like Google Earth, and it looks like it's like

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bigfoots everywhere, but the symbols are huge, right, So they

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cover you know, half the state that they're in, and

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that's the problem with the classic map. It's a great

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map because you can really see, you know, all the

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points in an area. However, it can give you the

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wrong idea about what's happening, you know, in general in

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a certain area. So with that in mind, I created

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the new.

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Map, which is awesome. I love it. I love them,

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but I use them both, that's the thing.

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Yeah, I mean, that's why I kept them up there, right,

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because you know, some people prefer to work with the

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points all visible, and then the new map really does

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some analysis and displays that density analysis a hot spot

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essentially in the map for you, so that you know,

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you can really see an analysis of all those points

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and how they relate to each other in certain areas.

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That gives you better information. So the reason that I

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have two maps is, you know, there's different functionality in

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each map, but essentially I wanted the map to display

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what was really happening with Bigfoot, i e. Hot spots,

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rather than people trying to digest all those points in

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a map themselves, because they're just not going to show

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you what people are what they think they're pulling from

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the map, it's not informing people correctly, which is why

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I created the hotspot map.

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Yeah, which is really cool because it does kind of

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give you. It just gives you. It's awesome.

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There's all different ways to work, right. You might not

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care about the hot spots for what you're doing. You

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might just want to go and see all the points

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on the map, right, So I try to keep it

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open for people to work with things however they want

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to work with them.

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Right now, what kind of data? All right, So this

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kind of leads right into one of the questions that

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I've got about the whole data collection of this. Now,

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obviously a lot of this stuff is taken from other databases, right,

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and from people putting in their own recollection of a

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h encounter. Right For some reason, I couldn't. I mean,

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I've even gotten an encounter on here, right, I I've

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got a few, but I only put in one just

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because I wanted to see what it was like. Yeah,

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and it's cool, it's smooth, it's it's everything's to hear that.

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I'm just wondering about data, like do you have a

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way of like runching data, meaning like how many sightings

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of like cinnamon bigfoot? Do we have absolutely know what

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I mean or like foot size or like in like

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how does that correlate to the map? Are you able

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to do that type of stuff?

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Yes, So there's two parts to there's two parts to

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your answer or your question. There's two parts to the

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answer to your question.

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Yes.

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First part is what makes crunching data easy is standardization. Right,

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So that was the form that you went through and

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filled out and said no that you had a good

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experience on. Those are the fields in the form. Did

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you see a male bigfoot? You see female bigfoot? How

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tall was it? What color did you see? Et cetera,

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et cetera. And then there's the additional comments, right, what

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didn't I capture in that those standardized fields? That was

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still relevant to the report? And there's like five thousand

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characters you can add to five fields of a thousand

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characters each. So crunching the standardized data is very simple, right,

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because it's simple queries. It's basically, you know, if you know,

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find color in this list, so find brown, black, blah

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blah blah blah blah. But crunching quote unquote, crunching the

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anecdotal text field portions of the reports is a little

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bit more difficult. However, I've started to use AI to

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really help with that because AI can read the whole database.

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Who you can read the whole data. You can literally

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do a word search kind of Yeah.

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large language models, so that you can really start to

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have your own environment right and train it yourself on

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your data. I haven't gotten that sophisticated yet, but I

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and I've looked through that type of analysis on the

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database and found really interesting insights. And I think I've

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even I've made a few posts that I'll share with

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you about how I use the AI to look at

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the big Foot mapping project.

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You could create your own I say, we but you

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could create your own GPT to do to do whatever

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and I don't know why I never thought about it,

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but that's genius.

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I've thought about plugging a GPT bot, making it available

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on the website so people can have conversations with Bigfoot

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GPT basically on bigfootmap dot com, and it would basically

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pull all the answers from the database. So keep your

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eyes peeled for that. That's been on the back of

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my mind for a while and it's really not that

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hard to do, to be honest.

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Very positive, shockingly easy. Yes, yes, it's actually terrifying.

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But anyway, you know, if you use it the right

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way instruct it was great. But there is now that

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you say it's shocking lyazy. That's a very interesting point

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because AI can still give you the wrong answers. Oh,

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it can be wrong, so, and it can misinform you.

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It can make conclusions that really aren't there.

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as well. So I think I answered your question, I hope.

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told you, I want to put you in touch with

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a friend of mine who would like to add nauseam

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talk about that data here for it. Yeah for sure.

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So all right, so you I'm looking here. We kind

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of talked about it earlier, but on your database at

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least what state has the most bigfoot sightings?

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Now this is controversial.

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I love controversy.

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I know I'm serious, Like people are going to think

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I'm like making this up. I stand by these numbers

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so you can look at it. You can look it,

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and if you're looking at density, it's it's pretty intense.

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I mean it's intense in both.

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But anyway, I'll let you have.

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The four sure, no, no, no problem.

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So let me add this caveat before I answer this question.

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My AC count is only as good as the data

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that I've got. So there are reports that people have

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that have not been submitted anywhere that aren't in my database,

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my database, in the Bigfoot Mapping Project database.

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So keep that in mind.

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I'm just telling you and sharing the numbers that I've

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got that I've received so far. Does that tell you

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that there's more Bigfoot in Washington than there's more in

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Florida or wherever?

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Right?

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No, this just tells you the report. This is a

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snapshot of the reports today that I've got in the

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counts in various states. And the second part of that

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is that Bigfoot does not know political boundaries, right, So

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Bigfoot's not thinking, Hey, I want to go live in Oregon.

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You know, I heard it's great over there. Bigfoot doesn't

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know that where Oregon is, right. It just knows the

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ecoregion or the habitat that it's that it's in at

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different times of the year and what what's good for

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it and what it needs. So with that said, uh,

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here's the controversial thing. And I haven't said it on

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a podcast yet. Pennsylvania has the most Bigfoot sightings in

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the Bigfoot Mapping Project database. It is the site of

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the state with the highest number of Bigfoot sightings and reports.

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I should say, yeah.

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That's that is controversial, but I mean the data is

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the data too. But like you said, and I like

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the caveat at the end of the day, folks don't

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get crazy. But per this that's today, right, and that's

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tool in this in this database, that's where it's at.

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And I mean if you look at the map, yeah,

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I mean Pennsylvania though it's bright, it's as bright as

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it is in Washington and Oregon. It is it is,

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it's a little brighter, like more dense, it's more there's

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more density there. Yeah, I just can't believe how close

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it is to.

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Pittsburgh, right, It's it's it's kind of interesting. But you

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know that's an interesting point. And people always say, well Bigfoot,

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you know, we would see it. It It lives in

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far you know, remote places, and I'm sure it does. However,

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this does illustrate that this creature can be very successful

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in close proximity to human civilization. How does it travel?

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When does it travel? Those are types of things we

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can learn from the reports. Where does it travel? I've

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done all that big series on like corridors from Ezry's

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Green Infrastructure data set. So these are things like we

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really need to think about. It's not like they're trying

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to walk down the sidewalk with us right in Pittsburgh,

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but they may be traveling through Is that along a

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migration corridor or is that what's on? What is the context?

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So just because there's a point on the map, that

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doesn't mean that Bigfoot there is there all the time.

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They're very transient. So what's really happening this This map

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is just the beginning of understanding Bigfoot. It doesn't have

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all the answers. We need to start to analyze it

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to get those answers.

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Yeah O kidding, Yeah, so I yeah. We do a

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bunch of research in New York and in Pennsylvania, and

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it's just it's actually from what I've heard from folks

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that have been doing Pennsylvania for a while that there's

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also a market tick in pivity there is noticeably, yeah,

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noticeably so, which is also like what's that all about?

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Like you know, and and I don't know, I don't

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know what data would tell us anything about that, but

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you know, we're looking. I mean, there's all kinds of explanations,

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but it's it's just kind of a market increase. And

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the other place that was shocking to me on the

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East coast is Baltimore, like around Baltimore and like Maryland

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and and uh.

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Yep, yeah, there's a lot of John Green's site of

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reports there that are that occur in the state of Maryland.

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So it's it's very interesting there. There's some that don't

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have great lat longs from John Green's database, so they

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are not spatially as accurate as somebody who maybe crowdsource

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used the crowdsource report to put it on the map.

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But that's a lot of sightings and a very dense area,

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but they are I've come through them.

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They are all in Maryland, for example, which is very

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interesting because it's not a large state.

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Right. So I was going to say, if we can.

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Jump one back to your comment you made about why

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is there an uptick in Pennsylvania. I had a thought

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and being the chatterbox, I am I can't not say it,

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but there are you asked the question how why do

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we how do we figure out what that uptick is?

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Right?

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And why is it happening? And that's where gis can

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help it. Really, there's so many different ways to slice

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what's happening and why. Creatures wildlife are more visible around

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human establishments, right, So one human activity, right, what are

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we building new roads?

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Are we building new.

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Like suburban developments? Are we leveling more forests, et cetera?

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So there's less places for them to go they're going

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to be or visible?

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Right to.

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Food scarcity? Is there some change in food sources? There

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was there some kind of blight for a tree that

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they eat a lot of who knows, right, there's all

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kinds of ways and things to think about that effect

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all wildlife, not just Bigfoot. So and then we can

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also look at what's happening with other wildlife in the

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area as well. So there's just so many things to

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think about outside of just why is Bigfoot doing this?

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What is encouraging Bigfoot to behave this way? Is another

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way to frame that question.

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Yeah, that's pretty uh yeah, it's a good way of

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thinking about it, a different way for sure. What are

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your thoughts? I mean, so, do you do researchence other

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than this obviously, but do you like go out and

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I hunt or hunts not the right word. I don't

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like that search, search or just you know, I do

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get around the campfire and wait for something to show

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up or whatever. Whatever your technique is.

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So I just talked about that.

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I have an episode of Mapping Bigbook coming out this

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weekend and I had a great guest on. His name

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is Austin Lake, and he's a big time hunter and

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he's on the Fox TV show Extracted actually this season, okay,

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and he and I talk about a lot of field

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techniques for looking for bigfoot, and they I like to

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hunt if you can't tell behind me, right, So my

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technique is probably different than people who don't enjoy hunting

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as much as I do. Now, I have had an

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experience on my dear lease here in Texas that I've

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talked about on other podcasts. I'll happily share it here.

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I'll answer this question first, then maybe we can get

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into that. So my approach is concealment stealth. I don't

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want to I don't want anything to know I'm there

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if I can avoid that, right, I want to observe

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the natural flow of things that as if I'm not

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not influencing it at all. So I go to my

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deer lease where I hunt deer, but I also have

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seen bigfoot sasquatch on that property. So in the off season,

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even during the season, not as much though during deer

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season because I've got a different objective then. But in

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the off season, I am crawling through every nook and

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cranny of that property. Along the river, I found freshwater

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clams that are gigantic like this big You know that

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there's plenty of food there. There's tubers, there's clams, like

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I said, there's crawfish. There's a river running through it,

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so there's a kinds of frogs and fish and all

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kinds of things to eat for bigfoot to exist out.

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There always a good sign too, the water running through

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exactly right.

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So with that said, I guess my approach would be

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more of a hunter approach that I'm not out there

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to kill bigfoot or anything like that. I'm there to

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find evidence, but I try to influence as little as possible,

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and I try not to disturb anything while I'm out there. Right,

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I'm not doing tree knocks, I'm not doing howls. I'm

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not doing yells anything like that, because that's just not

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my style.

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Right.

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I'm not saying it's valid one way or the other,

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but it's just not how I can be effected personally. Now,

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why do I go out there and do that. I'll

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happily get into my bigfoot encounter if you if I

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can take the mic and run with it. I don't

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want to be that guy that.

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Just talks talks stores the whole episode.

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But okay, so the same least that I was talking

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about earlier, you know that I'm out there looking for

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evidence on finding all the food, et cetera. It was

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about gosh, two years ago, now maybe three. I was

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actually finishing bow hunting and I was walking out. It

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was after shooting time, right, it's too dark to shoot anything.

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I just had my bow and here in Texas we

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have really large wild hogs bores, and they can get

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three hundred pounds. Right, They're really big, ugly, nasty kind

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of creatures.

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They're gross. So I was walking out and I saw behind.

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So I was the Barberierre fence was on my left

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because I had come.

474
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.880
Out of the river bottom area where I hunt, and

475
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.119
I was walking back to my truck and I looked

476
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:08.279
off to my left at about ten eleven o'clock and

477
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:14.400
there was a dark black blob right behind like a

478
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.079
sage brush, something like a sage brush. I don't know

479
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.400
exactly what it was. And I thought, all right, well,

480
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.359
this is just a big hog. It's not coming my way.

481
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.319
I don't want to disturb it. I can't outrun this

482
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.839
thing where I am right now. It's a pasture one way,

483
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.319
and there's no barely any trees to climb up right,

484
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.400
There's nothing for me to get away from this hog.

485
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.640
So I just didn't see me. I didn't think.

486
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.880
I'll just let it go on its way, I mean,

487
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.119
and then I'll get back to my truck.

488
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.319
And go home.

489
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:50.039
Well, it stood up. I stopped from when I stopped.

490
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.400
It stood up. I mean, this thing had to be

491
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.599
seven seven and a half feet tall, and it was

492
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:02.000
wide right, it was wild, like a like a I

493
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.079
don't know just everything you hear massive. I could see

494
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.119
its hands like cupped by its sides, just like that

495
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.000
hanging down. I could see its massive arms and just

496
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.279
the silhouette of them anyway, and then the silhouette of ahead,

497
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.480
like massive muscles here, no neck, you know, and then

498
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.799
like a pointy head. So this, ironically, this is after

499
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.160
I started the big Foot mapping project too. So I'm like,

500
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.519
nobody's gonna believe this, but this is, this is one

501
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:38.079
hundred percent like what happened. And so I'm standing there

502
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:43.640
and I can't believe what's happening. I don't understand what's

503
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:48.079
happening fully because I'm more in of a reaction mode

504
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.319
where I'm fight or flight. This this could be a

505
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.000
big person. I need to just figure out what to do.

506
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.960
So so man, in many words, I said, whoa. I mean,

507
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.480
just like that, like whoa, you caught me really off guard,

508
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:09.640
and it squatted back down. So at this point I

509
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:15.440
knew we were interacting right, and I still didn't know

510
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.079
exactly how to handle the situation.

511
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.880
I wasn't like freaked out, like I was nervous, like in.

512
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:25.720
A precautionary way because this was potentially a dangerous situation,

513
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.279
but I didn't feel threatened, I guess if that makes

514
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:35.240
any sense. And I was like I see you. Literally

515
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.680
just like that, I said, I see you. And immediately

516
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.319
after I said that, up it said that. It stood up,

517
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:50.000
turned around and sprinted, sprinted through all the brambles and

518
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:55.599
the prairie river bottom kind of wild foliage. And then

519
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.720
it hit the thicket of timber that starts just at

520
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.880
the edge of the field. Didn't slow down at all.

521
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:09.160
It's just you could hear sticks breaking and everything. And

522
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.759
at that point I was every hair on my neck,

523
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:13.960
my arm, everything was stood up. And I was like,

524
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.440
I gotta get back to my truck. So like I'm

525
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.200
not even embarrassed to say this. I got back to

526
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.079
my truck and I locked the doors, and I was like,

527
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.200
what in the hell did I just see? And I

528
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.200
was like, that's bigfoot. That was bigfoot. There's no to

529
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.839
give you an idea. There's this this ranch that I

530
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.279
hunt in Texas. It's ninety five percent privately own lands.

531
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.359
It's not like New York or other states where there's

532
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:37.240
public land to hunt.

533
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:38.000
There's not a lot.

534
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:40.680
So what you do is to get a deer lease,

535
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.000
and usually it's from a rancher or somebody that owns

536
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.799
a property. This ranch in particular that I was hunting

537
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.960
is eleven thousand acres, and I hunt a small small

538
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:56.000
portion of it by you know, by like just very small.

539
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.440
It's like two hundred acres that I hunt compared to

540
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.000
eleven thousand acres two hundreds.

541
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.359
It's still a lot of land. But you know, we're.

542
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:08.039
Talking square miles here, and so there's no houses.

543
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.119
And the.

544
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.920
Lease is also boarded by a national federal National Wildlife

545
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:20.160
fresh Refuge. So I know there's no humans within many

546
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.599
square miles of where I'm sitting right. I know there's

547
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.680
there's a highway where it's obvious if people are stopped,

548
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:31.160
and that's it. The rest is private. So when I leave,

549
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.200
I'm like, all right, I'll look. There's a bridge where

550
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.519
people would park. Maybe there's somebody there. And they snuck

551
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.039
on on the property and walked all the way down

552
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.079
along the river and they were sneaking and doing something

553
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.880
they shouldn't have been doing.

554
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:42.480
No no car.

555
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.799
And I paid attention to the whole time, the whole

556
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.519
time while I was leaving, to look for headlights or

557
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.000
break lights or anything that would indicate that it was

558
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.400
a person that shouldn't have been there.

559
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:53.599
Nothing like that.

560
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.559
There's there was nothing parked along side of the road

561
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.000
to indicate that anyone was there, and it just is.

562
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.000
It's a wild place, right, So.

563
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:10.280
I am convinced, convinced that I saw a sasquad.

564
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.199
Unless it's Yao Ming wearing like a giant black parka.

565
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.679
Who else? Is it going to be.

566
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:18.960
Funny say that Yeo Ming does live in Houston?

567
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:23.199
Right now? I know that's what I mean, Like, literally,

568
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.000
who else is it?

569
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.159
You know, there's no other simple explanation, right that. It

570
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.360
wasn't like it was a game warden, which is possible,

571
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.760
right because they do make sure people are following the

572
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.679
laws and they can come out of the property and

573
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.800
observe you and things. And you know, at that point,

574
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.400
though he would have identified himself and said I'm a

575
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.760
game warden, he would have turned on his flashlight and said,

576
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.800
you know, do you know what property you are on

577
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.440
or do you have the permission to be here? Do

578
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.199
you have a letter from the landowner? Blah blah blah

579
00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:00.000
blah blah. Nothing like that happened. This was this was

580
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:06.199
you know, I when when in cartoons it's like two

581
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:07.880
adversaries me, like what are you doing here?

582
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.679
It was one of those moments. It's like what are

583
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.960
you doing here? So I didn't feel threatened.

584
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.199
No, I still hunt out there because go ahead.

585
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.599
Sorry, No, no, no, I don't feel threatened out there.

586
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:23.800
I enjoy going out there.

587
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.519
I feel very in fact, I feel like it's a

588
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:32.480
very peaceful place. And I crawl through every corner of

589
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.079
that place and I'll sit, I'll sleep up against a tree.

590
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.840
Is that smart because there's hogs out there?

591
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:40.320
Probably not.

592
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.199
But most of the time I'm armed, right, so I'm

593
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:49.079
not terribly worried. I'm also very careful. I'm not doing

594
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.960
too many dumb things right, But no, I feel very peaceful.

595
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:53.840
I love it out there.

596
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.519
But I mean like when you were face to face,

597
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:58.920
or when not face to face, but when you were

598
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:03.679
in proximity to it, you didn't feel threatened per se.

599
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.039
No, I was alarmed, but I didn't feel like I

600
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.880
was going to be harmed. I didn't feel like I

601
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.920
needed to prepare for anything.

602
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:16.079
You know.

603
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.800
Yeah, I just got asked this question. That's why I

604
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.440
was like, I don't really know how I would react.

605
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.480
I mean, I've had encounters, but it's it's different, like

606
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.599
if if all of a sudden, I was like, you know,

607
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:31.519
twenty feet away from how would I what I thought

608
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:32.920
I was. I don't know.

609
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.480
I was somewhere between thirty and forty yards, so.

610
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.920
Not a one hundred feet, right, yeah, you know, which

611
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.400
is a good distance. It is, but it's not that far.

612
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.000
Ether No, it's it's not, it's not. But I can

613
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:53.920
I can confidently say I didn't feel like scared or threatened.

614
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.199
I felt a little confused because I didn't understand in

615
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.159
the moment why a hog stood up.

616
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.840
I mean, right, yeah, because the first thing your brain

617
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.280
like this is like short circuits a little You're like, wait.

618
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:09.800
Yeah, no, it for real, And.

619
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.519
So it stood up, and I was just like, I

620
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:20.360
don't immediately went into like confusion more than anything, and surprise, surprise,

621
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.800
I would say, But it didn't feel threatened.

622
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:23.000
Noough.

623
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.599
Yeah. So like I'm convinced too that because it's such

624
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:34.880
a not normal thing, right, that your brain compensates kind

625
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.280
of like it does when it fills gaps, right when

626
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.280
you're like looking at things. So one of the one

627
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:46.480
of the things I'm finding in my research, and I'm

628
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.639
wondering if you are finding the same things just the

629
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.559
like people. I don't know if it's truma like some

630
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.159
of the class a stuff like if it's trauma that

631
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.119
all of a sudden it's it's like parts of their

632
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.000
brain are wiped almost.

633
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.119
It's almost like a very classic trauma reaction, right, right,

634
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.239
And so that.

635
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.920
That's what I'm thinking it is is trauma because a

636
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.519
lot of people are like, oh wait, wait, I forgot

637
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.280
a crucial point, and then they tell you and they're like,

638
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.679
how the hell could you forget that?

639
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.039
I mean, but that's also that's just normal with witnesses, right,

640
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:26.119
human humans are notoriously unreliable witnesses.

641
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:26.920
Right, correct.

642
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.719
If there was four other people, five other people with

643
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.639
me in that moment and we alsow the same event,

644
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.760
you would get five different stories. So I think it's

645
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.880
you're right, it's probably a combination of trying to explain

646
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:48.360
things and fill in the gaps. Then there's there is

647
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.679
probably some trauma or something similar to trauma, something like.

648
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.840
You know, and I don't mean trauma is just the

649
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:55.599
lack of vocabulary.

650
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.440
I guess, yeah, I understand.

651
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:03.039
And then also, you know, people just if you're surprised,

652
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.400
then you're you're trying to understand what's happening in the moment.

653
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.760
You're not thinking how tall is this? What are the details.

654
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:10.840
You're not logging that in your mind. You're not unless

655
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.199
you're trained, and or at least you not even trained

656
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.840
unless you've practiced right to be ready for that kind

657
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.519
of stuff. It's very it's nearly impossible to to to

658
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.280
capture those details consistently in the moment, right because your

659
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.119
your body and your is reacting right, you have a

660
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:32.400
primal reaction.

661
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.440
To that kind of encounter, right.

662
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.880
I mean, I'm a veteran and I've been in a

663
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.440
it's you could say, you know, like some sticky situations

664
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.400
and people are always like, well, why don't you get

665
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.559
pictures or why don't you have a picture or why whatever?

666
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.920
And I was like, well, first off, the last thing

667
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.440
on your.

668
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.400
Mind is Grandma.

669
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.480
You know what I mean, Like to me, because I've

670
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.239
been I don't even I carry it obviously, but I

671
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.639
don't even carry it out anymore. I'm like whenever I'm

672
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.800
doing because it doesn't I don't know. I just it's

673
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.440
one of those things like you must be asked this

674
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.039
quite a bit though, is like why is there what's

675
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.840
the lack Why is there such a lack of photograph

676
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:32.719
and video evidence of good video or photographic evidence, Because

677
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.199
as a luck, and we can take pictures of bears

678
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:42.039
and you know, deer and all kinds of stuff out there. True,

679
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.280
what what do you think?

680
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:52.440
So I'll go I'll start with cameras first, and I'll

681
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.360
start there because I also you can see behind me.

682
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.320
I do a lot of wildlife photography, right, so.

683
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.199
I uh, you know, to get at orca behind me

684
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:07.119
right here, it took you know, bursts of thousands of

685
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.639
you know, and that was one good photo. And I'm

686
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:12.519
not a professional by any means this hobby, right, But

687
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.360
a cell phone camera compared to the camera that I

688
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.920
used to get that photo are two very very different things.

689
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.440
So I see a lot of this and I have

690
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:31.480
a lot of submissions that are blobsquatchy simply because it

691
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.840
was taken with a cell phone camera that was zoomed

692
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.519
in from one hundred yards and that lens is not

693
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.920
made for that. It just simply is not the right

694
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.239
tool to capture what you think you're capturing. It could

695
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:49.079
be bigfoot, but that picture is not gonna be proof

696
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.639
positive right with that cell phone camera. But the same

697
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.280
thing to be could be said with like the tool

698
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.199
the camera I use. You have to be ready, you

699
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.880
have to you know, you have to be experienced to

700
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:04.639
use that correctly.

701
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.679
And it really I get.

702
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.519
All kinds of blurry photos still, right, So those photos

703
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.559
that you see of bears and things, do you not.

704
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.400
Hear trying to take focus pictures and they're still blurry exactly?

705
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.599
So I think that the biggest one for me is

706
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.199
really it's the cell phones. Yeah, everybody's got a cell phone.

707
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.159
Why don't we have more pictures? Well, you know, try

708
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:28.880
to go in your backyard. Try to take a good

709
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:32.400
picture of a cat that's walking around at you know,

710
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.000
fifty yards, Take it steady and.

711
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.159
Zoom in with your camera. You're gonna it'll be a cat,

712
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:38.880
but it'll be beyond blurry. Right.

713
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.280
And now think about if it's big foot hiding behind

714
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.639
a tree and all you see is a little pad

715
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.480
of fur, you know.

716
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.239
So see the other Paradulia and in the red circle squatch.

717
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.079
It's frustrating. It's very frustrating for me.

718
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.239
Because I'm like, I want that, like, I want those

719
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.280
things to be real. And I'm sure people that post

720
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.679
things like that have had those experiences. I don't want

721
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.239
to take that away from somebody like that because I

722
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:11.559
wasn't there. However, that's not good evidence. And that's what

723
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.920
the frustrating part is because it's being put out there

724
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:18.519
and it's just not helping with the conclusions that people

725
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.239
that aren't in the community draw. They're thinking like, oh,

726
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:22.960
it's a bunch of people like you said that just

727
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.480
circle stuff in photos.

728
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.280
And then so it's very frustrating. Right.

729
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:34.519
The other thing about why haven't we captured bigfoot on?

730
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.000
Like a good image would be trail cameras, right, so

731
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.320
we're talking cell phones, and then I always get trail

732
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.679
camera questions, and trail cameras aren't perfect. They're they're hard

733
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:53.000
to get set up right. They have to be triggered consistently,

734
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.559
and they're not consistent. You can have a deer walk

735
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.840
in front of a trail camera four or five times

736
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.400
and you'll get one picture. Sure, right, the trigger is

737
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:06.119
not always good. It's not not a precision piece of equipment.

738
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:11.840
And again they're just trail cameras are only going to

739
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.840
be placed where hunters or people who are using them

740
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.840
want to walk to put them right.

741
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:23.679
And there are actually some decent film and pictures from

742
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.800
trail cams. I mean they are they're not perfect, but

743
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:28.719
at the end of the day and some of their

744
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:33.000
Some of them are very subjective, but there are some decent.

745
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.519
And you know as well as I do. Being in

746
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:41.239
the community, there's plenty of photos that people don't share.

747
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:46.079
I've seen some. I've seen somewhere features.

748
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:51.320
Yes, So with that being said, I have you know,

749
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.039
you brought them up earlier. I have an interview with

750
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:59.880
Terry Wendel that I just published. Great, dude, I don't

751
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:00.920
know if you know Terry.

752
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.199
No familiar name. Familiar name, gotcha.

753
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.480
So he was talking about and I had a friend

754
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.679
do the same thing. Plus Scott Carpenter. You know that name,

755
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.119
of course legend right, Scott Carpenter had or he would

756
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.400
put stuff way up in trees, right. People are like,

757
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.239
so this guy had a trail cam up in a

758
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.239
tree about twelve thirteen feet up pointing down. Now, I

759
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.079
just made a TikTok because I I you know, you

760
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.519
produce shorts and then you post them. So I have

761
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.679
one on TikTok, and my one of my daughters does

762
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.679
my TikTok stuff. Right, It's got like almost three hundred

763
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.559
thousand views. Cool, right, I'm not on TikTok. Maybe I

764
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.199
should be, but they're like, but they're like, you know,

765
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.280
there's no picture, it didn't happen, because he tells the

766
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:59.000
story right about how it caught the side view of

767
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.599
like a what looks like a chimpanzee, but like only

768
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.559
this much of it, but you can see like the

769
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.719
detail like hair, and it's just a very thing. But

770
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.599
there's actually a couple videos or a couple photos like

771
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.000
that that you can find on the internet, but you

772
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:18.159
have to dig dig dig for them. Can't find this one.

773
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:22.079
But everyone's just like everyone's got their troll comments. Right

774
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.960
if there's no video or if there's no photo, it

775
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.800
didn't happen, right, right. What I'm here to say, and

776
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.239
you can back that up, is that there's plenty of

777
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.760
people that don't want the notoriety. They don't want any

778
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.480
of it, and they don't want to be called crazier

779
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.800
being made fun of her. Oh that's fake. So they

780
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.000
either have trailcam footage, like there's a guy have that

781
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.079
I know that has trailcam footage and he will not

782
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:56.719
will not release it.

783
00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:59.480
You know, I understand that point of view right now.

784
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:03.760
And yeah, so there's that's a great point that there's

785
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:09.599
there's the unreliability of technology there's the knowledge of how

786
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.079
to use that technology correctly. There's the using the right

787
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.320
piece of technology for the right situation. And then let's

788
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.440
say you had the perfect storm, you did everything correct,

789
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.280
and you did get that evidence. Then then you're holding

790
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.239
that photo in your hand and you're looking and you're like,

791
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.079
people aren't gonna believe me, especially now because you can

792
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.519
say it's a yeah, So like that's a I and

793
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.840
you're like sure of having a Bigfoot specimen live or dead.

794
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.960
You know, that's what we're going to have to produce, unfortunately,

795
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.079
for people to believe Bigfoot is a living, flesh and

796
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.440
blood creature. But I completely understand the point. I've had

797
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.239
conversations with people just like you where just like you,

798
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.400
point out that you know, they showed me the photo

799
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.000
and I was like, I've never the one I saw

800
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:01.039
the photo I saw.

801
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:02.639
I can't really say who.

802
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:04.679
They asked me not to share them their name or

803
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.159
anything about them, But what I can say is the

804
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:13.679
photo I saw. If everyone that is a non doesn't

805
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.199
believe in Bigfoot or doesn't believe that Bigfoot is out there,

806
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.760
saw this photo, there would be a national craze for

807
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.880
finding not that there isn't already, but there would be

808
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.239
no non believers out there because this photo is literally

809
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.400
you can see its lips in the photo. It's if

810
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.559
this is a real photo, which I do believe it

811
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.000
is this, this person has not shared it, they don't

812
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.960
intend on sharing it, and if they ever do, they're

813
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.559
going to be I doubt they'll share it. Let me

814
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.199
put it that way. So it's this thing. When he

815
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:57.760
showed me, I was just like, I was floored. So yeah,

816
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.239
I get that. I get why people are hesitant to

817
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:00.639
do that.

818
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.000
Especially if they're in the community, because they know what

819
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:09.199
it will create, right, and it's not something good. Actually,

820
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.880
I am a firm believer that I don't care if

821
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.480
people believe because I do. I don't care same people

822
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:20.320
because the people that I want to believe that that

823
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.239
that I want to believe. You know what I'm saying.

824
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.079
I can't say right that I want to believe that

825
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.199
it's true. I already believe, right, you know, And and

826
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.320
we go have fun in the woods and you know,

827
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.039
try and film stuff and do all kinds of stuff,

828
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:45.679
and I firm believer that they avoid cameras so very well.

829
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.239
I mean, I use I actually use trailcams as a deterrent.

830
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:55.360
When I when when we're doing research trips, I'll have

831
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.159
my tent and i'll put I'll set up like you know,

832
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.400
because I'm a military, I overlapping fields of fire, right,

833
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:06.880
but I do that with troutcams.

834
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.400
Yeah, it makes sense. We have no blind spots.

835
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:20.400
And driveway the infrared driveway alerts and that an issue sense.

836
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.519
It's funny they mentioned infrared humans. I just read about this.

837
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.079
Humans have the necessary proteins or whatever you want to

838
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:33.320
call them, alleles proteins. I'm not a biologist, so we

839
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:38.079
have whatever is necessary in our eyes, the structures to

840
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.119
see infrared, but for some reason or another just not activated.

841
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.239
Right. So if we have that right.

842
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.800
And to support that, I'll happily share the article I

843
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.280
read because I'm people are gonna be like, this guy

844
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.760
is just conjecture. But this is a real article I

845
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:59.280
read and which made me think the other day, if

846
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.360
we have or could possibly have those structures that we

847
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.440
need to see infra red, who's to say that Bigfoot

848
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:09.760
doesn't have those and their act and they're functioning. And

849
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.599
that's why it's like a beacon for Bigfoot is an

850
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.000
infrared trail camera sensor, right, because it's just because it's

851
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.559
like daylight practically, right. So and I thought that before,

852
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.320
but after I didn't push it too much because it

853
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.360
was just kind of a theory of thought that I had.

854
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.880
Then I read this article and I was like, maybe

855
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:30.480
that's what's happening.

856
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.079
So I'm pretty convinced that they can see in the infrared.

857
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.400
That's just and it might not be like a you know,

858
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.599
like people think it's like predator yeah no, or or

859
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:45.199
that it's literally like night vision. I mean, because we

860
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.960
know cats have very good night vision, and that's got

861
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:55.280
to be some If it's it doesn't have to be infrared,

862
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.719
it can be infrared adjacent. There's like that the spectrum.

863
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.679
Let's be honest, we only see this much right of

864
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:09.199
the spectrum. I know, my get my audiences. Here's me

865
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:13.880
say this ad nauseum because it is it's like we

866
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:18.679
literally get we literally can see like I used to

867
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:20.840
say like a seventh and I don't know where I

868
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.440
heard that, but it's even less than that act. It's

869
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:28.159
like it's literally like one percent of I believe that

870
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.920
of the electromagnetic spectrum, because that's that's what we're talking

871
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:37.480
about right, the electromagnetic spectrum and that encompasses light as well, right,

872
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.039
so uh yeah, I mean there's radio waves, there's microwaves,

873
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.079
there's gamma rate, you know, all these things that's all

874
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.320
in that spectrum, and we literally see like a thumb,

875
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.360
you know, it's a yeah.

876
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.280
So I guess we wound around to that from your

877
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.760
question all the way to maybe bigfoot can see in

878
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.840
for but I think you know that that's they all

879
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.719
kind of it's all kind of related when you're talking

880
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:08.079
about cameras and trail cameras and things like that. And

881
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.639
then they're smart, right, they know that what a man

882
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.079
made object looks like. And uh, you know if there's

883
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.800
a big, boxy trail camera strapped to a tree on

884
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.559
a trail that they know like the back of their hand,

885
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.440
they're going to notice it and they're going to avoid it.

886
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.920
Right they even hear it. Oh yeah, a lot of

887
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.480
animals here the shutter right or the.

888
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.639
Absolutely I mean I have pictures of deer that were

889
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.920
walking by the shutter goes off and they're this right

890
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.239
in the camera, you know, right looking right at the camera.

891
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:44.119
So on, so it.

892
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.679
There's who knows what's going on there? It's uh. I mean,

893
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.039
I'm I'm kind of doing an experiment or we're going back,

894
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:56.079
because the best piece of footage that exists is the

895
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:59.519
Patterson Gimblin film, right, and that is done with.

896
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.239
Old school film analog.

897
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:07.519
Yeah, you know, so I've been I've been doing EVPs

898
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.000
as well with tape.

899
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:10.960
Oh interesting, not with.

900
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:19.239
Digital m and I mean sometimes tapes can have artifacts, absolutely,

901
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.000
you know, I try to use this. It's hard to find.

902
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.039
Yeah, I work, interestingly enough, a lot of the data

903
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.920
that we transcribe in my day job is stored on

904
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.880
tapes because you could you could store a ton of

905
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:41.559
data on tapes, right, But again, the tapes go bad, right,

906
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.719
they they only have a certain lifespan, and there's a

907
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:49.159
lot of ways to store that media that no humidity

908
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.079
is best, all those types of things that go along

909
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:56.679
with keeping it in the best condition to be used.

910
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:02.719
So I would love to have like older film. I'm

911
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.719
not saying like the camcorder on your shoulder, you know

912
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:09.000
what I mean. I don't know, because it's still electronic,

913
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.840
but it's a different media and and who knows, I mean,

914
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:17.000
I don't know what what I don't know If you're

915
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:20.000
you know, in what camp or if you're in no

916
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.639
camp meaning flesh and bone.

917
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:25.639
I get asked that too. I don't happy to talk

918
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:26.039
about that.

919
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:29.679
Are we are we in the Wuville? I'm I am.

920
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:34.840
I am all of it. Frankly, I don't. I will

921
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:39.960
not discount any of it because everybody has their experiences, right,

922
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.119
And who's to say too that we're talking about the

923
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.360
same thing.

924
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.199
We might not be, right, I don't.

925
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.559
You never know, right, I don't know, and I think

926
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:55.400
I don't want to presume to know. But I'm happy

927
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.239
to say what camp camp, quote camp.

928
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.119
My thoughts, Well, some people get dogmatic about it, but

929
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:01.960
I don't think you're one of those people.

930
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.679
I just not at all.

931
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:07.000
You know, some people are, some big names are, and

932
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:07.440
you're like.

933
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.719
No, right, right, So I'm not.

934
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.280
But I do have my own thoughts, but I keep

935
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.039
those thoughts and my bias out of the data set.

936
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.400
First and foremost, that doesn't mean right. So if there's

937
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:25.440
a paranormal leaning report that stays in right, and simply

938
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.079
through the approach that we take on the analysis, like

939
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.199
a big data analysis approach, we're going to find the

940
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.400
overarching trend. So if there's only one report that's paranormal

941
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:39.599
leaning outside in fourteen thousand reports, that's not going to

942
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.320
be a finding generally, it's probably going to fall out

943
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.679
of the data set. Still may be correct, but it's

944
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:50.119
not part of the meat. Right, that's not the most

945
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:55.840
occurring event in the data set. But okay, so that's

946
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:57.639
one thing I definitely keep my bias out of it.

947
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.280
I don't, aside from spammers that are just trolls, you know,

948
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:03.920
putting stuff in there here and there, which doesn't happen

949
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:04.800
too often, but it does.

950
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.159
Surprisingly, it doesn't happen that often.

951
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.440
No, it really doesn't I get. I mean, I got

952
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:11.679
it's kids more than anything. I just got a letter

953
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.000
an email from a fifth grade teacher and they were

954
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.559
looking at the thing and the some kid put, you know,

955
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:19.480
he's really upset, and he's like, I put, I put

956
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.119
a report in there. I thought it was being funny,

957
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:23.920
and like he hand wrote an apology letter and the

958
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.320
teacher scanned it and send it to me.

959
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.199
I was cracking up, right.

960
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:27.559
So.

961
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:31.280
I thought it was really funny. But I don't get

962
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.719
a lot of that, right, I think people, and when.

963
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.639
I do, it's obvious, it's very obvious, right, So those

964
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:41.360
get called out Aside from that, anything that's a valid

965
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.199
report stays in and then.

966
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:47.960
So that's the database side of it.

967
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:50.199
Now my personal side of it, do I what do

968
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:54.559
I think about Bigfoot? Given my background as you can

969
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:59.079
see behind me, I'm very animal focused, right, have a

970
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.880
conservation byology as a minor, so I'm not a true biologist.

971
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:09.639
I'm more of a biology biology influenced GIS guy. I

972
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.360
think Bigfoot is probably more flesh and blood than paranormal.

973
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.079
I'm happy to be wrong, right, This is just my

974
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:22.239
personal theory. There's reasons I think that because of what

975
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.000
I read in reports and their behaviors and where they

976
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:31.000
are found, and the parallels I see to existing wildlife. Absolutely,

977
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.159
but also going back to my experience, Bigfoot didn't teleport

978
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:39.719
or to turn into an orb and float off. When

979
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:43.400
I saw it, it ran away, So I'm also basing

980
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.800
it on personal experience, backed up by things I read

981
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.440
and things I know about nature. Right, So I'm not

982
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.599
saying I'm right, but that's just what I think, and

983
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.199
I want to find out what's really going on, and

984
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.800
that's a really big part of the project, right, So

985
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:05.039
whatever I think, I'm smart enough and able and disciplined

986
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.159
enough to keep my bias out of the analysis.

987
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:13.119
I do absolutely, like I know, like I wear different hats,

988
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:15.840
like I'm able to do that. Some people aren't for

989
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.760
some reason, but I'm Some people have an agenda, right,

990
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.119
yeah they do. But like when I'm out in the woods,

991
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:28.599
I'm looking for a flesh and blood animal, period. If

992
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:33.719
other stuff happens, then it happens. But I am treating

993
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.880
it as though it is a wild a wild animal

994
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.440
or I don't i'd say wild animal, but a and

995
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:46.920
and an animal or or you know, human like entity

996
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.400
or whatever whatever you want to call it.

997
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.320
Animal. I mean, at the end of the day, we're

998
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:54.159
all animals, right.

999
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:55.719
I mean, at the end of the day to two

1000
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:02.239
of the two of my biggest UH encounters shockingly sounded

1001
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:08.480
like apes. The sounds that were made sounded just like

1002
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.400
a freaking ape of some sort.

1003
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:11.559
I believe that.

1004
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.760
And at the end of the day, but you can't

1005
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:19.239
take that, you know, when you're talking about there's no

1006
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.559
apes in the woods in Pennsylvania.

1007
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.079
But there are populations of monkeys in Florida right there are.

1008
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.760
I learned that last year, which is crazy.

1009
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.719
But I understand. I understand why and where they came

1010
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:41.239
from lots of big Foot sightings or Skunk Cape whatever

1011
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:42.199
you want to call Florida.

1012
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:42.639
You know what.

1013
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.840
They are in Florida too, But that's like one of

1014
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:49.000
those big spots. If you look at your map over

1015
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.800
the place, you're like, holy crap. I mean it's in

1016
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:57.679
the more remote you know, in between the.

1017
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.480
City, between the coasts, right, yeah, and down southwest part

1018
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:02.239
of Florida too.

1019
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.960
But how many overall sightings do you have in the database?

1020
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.719
You said fourteen thousand, but is.

1021
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:13.719
That that's Fall Park. Yeah, fourteen thousand roughly and growing

1022
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:18.519
the crowdsourcing portion of the map, so anything that's been

1023
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:22.400
submitted directly to the Bigfoot Mapping project over the last

1024
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:27.119
few years. We have about just over thirteen hundred reports

1025
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.400
that we've received that are new to the community, right,

1026
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:31.679
that weren't in any other databases they are.

1027
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:32.639
That's cool.

1028
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.480
Thirteen hundred, so that's I mean, that's a good average.

1029
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.119
I'll cover three years or so.

1030
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:38.320
That's awesome.

1031
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.360
Well, I guess four years now and to twenty twenty,

1032
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:47.400
so roughly four years. Yeah, time flies, but that's impressive.

1033
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:47.840
That's cool.

1034
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:49.360
Yeah, if you do the math, it's a few hundred

1035
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:50.159
reports a year.

1036
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:54.559
Yeah, I mean so. So, now, this is one of

1037
01:01:54.599 --> 01:02:00.559
my questions that I was mulling. How big of a

1038
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.559
population do you think we're talking about in the United States?

1039
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:04.239
Ish?

1040
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:09.920
And as a as a biologist that knows enough to

1041
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.519
be danger quotes that knows enough to be dangerous, Right,

1042
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.679
what do we think? Ish?

1043
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:22.039
That's a good question, I would say, And I think

1044
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:26.760
I'm probably in line with Jeff Meldrum on this. If

1045
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:32.239
I had to guess in the lower forty eight I

1046
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:39.159
would say eight to ten thousand big foot total scattered.

1047
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.000
I think you're about right. I think that's that's the

1048
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:44.400
realm that I'm in as well.

1049
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.480
I mean, if you it's that's a tough one. It's

1050
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.119
actually really tough because to estimate a population, you really

1051
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.719
have to understand behavior. And if these are as far

1052
01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.239
ranging as they people think they are, are the.

1053
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:05.360
Reports that you know are far apart along the timeline

1054
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.719
the same Bigfoot? Right, it very well could be. It

1055
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.039
could be footprints from the same Bigfoot. It could be.

1056
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:17.280
You know, house tree, Knox, et cetera, from the same Bigfoot.

1057
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.599
So how do you know that, right? Without really studying

1058
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.440
a population like we would normally normally study.

1059
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.320
Which has happened though in certain spots they've got prints

1060
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.880
that they can show that they're the same animal. Yes, yes,

1061
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.079
ten twelve years apart.

1062
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.880
Right exactly. So that's exactly what I'm trying to trying

1063
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:40.960
to point out. It's you know, so let's say we

1064
01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:45.639
found a footprint here from that same bigfoot, and ten

1065
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:49.599
years later we found another one that stayed over. You know,

1066
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:53.679
how do we gauge that population? So that's very tough,

1067
01:03:54.239 --> 01:04:00.840
but I think just just gut feeling based on number

1068
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:05.159
of reports averaging per year. One analysis I did that

1069
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:06.679
gives me an idea on this is.

1070
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:09.960
It was kind of.

1071
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.159
An interesting way of looking at it, I think, and

1072
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:16.519
maybe it was a bit abstract, but I looked at

1073
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:20.519
reports that occurred on the same day in the database,

1074
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.039
and I connected them with a straight line, and I

1075
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:28.000
measured how far apart they were, so I could determine,

1076
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:31.599
all right, that's if it's under a certain distance, could

1077
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.480
it be the same bigfoot? Could they have traveled that

1078
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:37.199
distance in the same day, And if it's over a

1079
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.199
certain distance, it's obviously not the same bigfoot.

1080
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:41.159
Right, So that gives you an.

1081
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.960
Idea of individuals that were seen on the same day,

1082
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.079
and you do that through the whole database over fourteen

1083
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.119
thousand sidings. That kind of gives you a good idea

1084
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.960
of individuals simply because of the fact that something can't

1085
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.199
be in the same place or in the same vicinity

1086
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:02.960
within reason, you know, or if they're so far apart.

1087
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:07.360
There's no way Bigfoot traveled five hundred miles in six hours, right,

1088
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.480
something like that. So unless it can turn into an orb,

1089
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:16.960
well that that possibility aside, Yes, exactly. Yeah, So that's

1090
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:19.159
how I did look at it, and that's what really

1091
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.400
kind of pushed me towards that number. Extrapolating a bit, oh,

1092
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.199
because you have to, right, there's no you have to.

1093
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:30.880
So I think we're right close to that though, probably.

1094
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:37.480
Absolutely So what all right, so I'm looking at at

1095
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:41.239
your map too, and we've got, uh, what's going on

1096
01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.360
with other countries? Do you have anything in the mix

1097
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:47.519
with those with different Like can't I see you have

1098
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:52.320
stuff in Canada, which makes sense, right, right, but like

1099
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:58.079
what about other countries? I mean, you had talks, what

1100
01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:59.719
would that even take you know?

1101
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.599
And I I mean, I mean it's interesting that you've

1102
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.880
asked about that. I haven't had time to look through

1103
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:07.280
it and get it into the map. But I just

1104
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:13.000
received a database for Australia. I'm working with the Cryptied

1105
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.079
Woman's Society. They they are very interested in helping with

1106
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:21.039
the big Foot Mapping Project and collaborating and they're amazingane,

1107
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:27.119
very enthusiastic, very supportive. Yeah, and I've learned a whole

1108
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:31.320
bunch from them. We chatted for hours before Christmas and

1109
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.039
we're I'm going to try and put something together for

1110
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.280
them so that they can capture more reports in their region.

1111
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.320
But it will also supplement the big Foot Mapping Project database,

1112
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:44.440
because that's Australia.

1113
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:48.320
I love that you have the well I'm assuming you

1114
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:50.960
put these in there about like the little snippets in

1115
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:55.480
certain parts of the you know, like like Brazil for example.

1116
01:06:55.519 --> 01:07:00.000
You have you know, like an engraving found article by Chris,

1117
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:05.199
you know, like an article about something that's bigfoot, Like right.

1118
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:07.719
Oh, yeah, that's Kerry kil Murray did that.

1119
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.599
Okay, that's so. Yeah.

1120
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.000
If you hit the legend wherever I got the data from,

1121
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.519
I credit them in the in the legend in the map,

1122
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.760
so you know you can see there the.

1123
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:22.639
Data came from like down in Mexico. You know it

1124
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.039
talks about either local newspapers or just cool. I think,

1125
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:29.639
so at least there's something which is neat.

1126
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:33.800
So yeah, other countries are tough because I think bigfoot

1127
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:36.280
is such a North American phenomenon as far as like

1128
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:41.079
pop culture and popularity, and there's a language barrier for

1129
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.840
like the website in general.

1130
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:48.440
Right right, so many, Oh my gosh, just different regulations

1131
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.119
and right right.

1132
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.519
Although I do get a lot of traffic from Russia

1133
01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:56.119
my analytics, interestingly enough, I do.

1134
01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.360
That's pretty no.

1135
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:06.239
But I've had some sightings in Europe that have been reported. Australia,

1136
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:11.639
for sure, there's one in India that's very interesting. South

1137
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:17.640
America is surprisingly blank, and I think I attribute to

1138
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.800
some that some of that to a language barrier. But

1139
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:23.560
I don't know what's going on there. I don't have

1140
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:28.600
good insight into why, you know, maybe what's really why

1141
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.479
there's not bigfoot reports, or at least why I'm not

1142
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:32.279
receiving them.

1143
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:37.800
Yeah, I mean there is, you know, legends of bigfoot

1144
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:41.960
like creatures. They're more like I almost feel like they're

1145
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:46.079
more like a ground slock type thing than than necessarily

1146
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:50.640
a bigfoot, at least what I've seen.

1147
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:53.560
You know, you know, I don't.

1148
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:55.560
I don't have a good knowledge based on that because

1149
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:59.439
I haven't read a lot aside from like what I

1150
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:01.359
can find on the internet, as far as like I

1151
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.439
don't have a database to refer to like I do

1152
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.399
for the States, which is unfortunate. I hope, I hope

1153
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.520
it becomes more of a global repository. The infrastructure is there,

1154
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:15.119
it could happen. It just needs to get some traction.

1155
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.680
I'm excited about this Australia thing though. That's pretty cool

1156
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:23.159
me too. Keep your eyes peeled. That'll be coming out soon.

1157
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.399
I'll dump that into the map and get it symbolized

1158
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.239
massage to make sure it fits, and Q see it

1159
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:32.560
and then get and I'll publish that in both apps,

1160
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.039
so it'll be in the new map in the classic map.

1161
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:36.840
Amazing.

1162
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:40.840
Well, it's kind.

1163
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:41.840
I could talk to you all night.

1164
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.359
I just I'm told you I'm a talk I just

1165
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:46.000
at the.

1166
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:50.279
Time, and I'm I've got to be cognizant of your

1167
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:55.199
time and my time. So yes, I again again, we

1168
01:09:55.239 --> 01:10:00.640
could probably talk for another hour at least. But with

1169
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:04.159
that being said, thank you so much for coming on.

1170
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.720
Pleasure. I hope I answered all your questions.

1171
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.880
Oh for sure, and and some more so. I but

1172
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:16.560
I you know, of course I have questions, but well, yeah,

1173
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:20.760
absolutely so. I want you to tell everyone where they

1174
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:25.680
can find you, what's the best and also two things,

1175
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:28.680
two more things, but we'll say where can people find you?

1176
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.960
Okay, people can find me.

1177
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.760
The best place to really get a hold of me

1178
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:37.800
and see anything that I'm publishing is Instagram. It's just

1179
01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:41.880
at Bigfoot Mapping Project. The second place you could go

1180
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.199
to interact with the maps and actually get into the

1181
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.159
data is bigfootmap dot com.

1182
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.079
And if you need to reach out directly and you.

1183
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.680
Don't have Instagram or anything like that, you can always

1184
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:55.439
reach me at Scott at bigfootmap dot com. That's a

1185
01:10:55.520 --> 01:11:03.560
designated email I've got for anything you want to talk about, right, reports, questions,

1186
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:08.079
sharing data, whatever it may be. Those are the ways

1187
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:09.920
to get a hold of me, and I'll do my

1188
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:12.199
best to get back to you in a reasonable amount

1189
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.399
of time. But we were talking before the episode. I

1190
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.560
have a young kid and it's uh and I'm quite

1191
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.720
busy will work, so just be patient. I will I

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01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:24.159
will get back to you. I will always do my.

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Best, absolutely so. Then the last thing since the name

1194
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:36.439
of this podcast is broadcasting seeds. What could you what

1195
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.000
sort of seed could you plant in my audience's mind

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01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.520
to just get them getting down a rabbit hole, you

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01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.399
know what I mean, like something that you've been thinking about,

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01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:53.680
or or something with bigfoot, whatever, But plant a seed

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01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:54.880
in these folks's mind.

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01:11:55.439 --> 01:12:02.239
I will plant a seed. Let's see. Go to bigfootmap

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01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:07.439
dot com and look at the classic map we were

1202
01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:09.920
talking about it earlier. All those points on a map,

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01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:15.560
there's about fourteen thousand of them, and just peruse around

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01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.399
the map and try and soak up just how many

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01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:19.079
points there are.

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Scroll around, look look where they are.

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And then as you're looking at it in the context

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01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:30.199
of Bigfoot, just think if one if one of those

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01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:37.039
points is Bigfoot. Bigfoot is real, period. All it takes

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01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:41.920
is one confirmed, real report for Bigfoot to exist.

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01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:46.359
So that's the seed. It's just one one encounter.

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01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.199
And you have fourteen thousand of them, so.

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01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:56.640
Odds are pretty high.

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01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.000
Scott, It's a pleasure and uh and we will have

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01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:02.520
to do it again for sure.

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01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.399
Absolutely. I had a great time. It went very quickly,

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01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:07.760
honestly did anytime I.

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01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:10.600
Talked Bigfoot, it just I know, anytime I start getting

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01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:13.119
down those rabbit trails and getting I just get so

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01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.039
into it that I don't even realize that the minutes

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01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:19.239
are flying by. So I'm really I'm really happy that

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01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:22.159
you invited me. I'm very grateful. I think this is

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01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.840
a great conversation. And uh, I can't wait to hear

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01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.079
what your listeners think and the questions they come up with.

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01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:31.399
Awesome, so good, I'll talk.

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01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:43.479
So yes, sir, walking there pair shooting line since line

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01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:50.199
couldn't do the night so so shit and move something

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01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:56.960
big and brusha and new, didn't spook, didn't run, just

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01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:01.119
to know the thing under the sun, took a breath,

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01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:06.159
kept my pace, didn't know how I was sharing space

1231
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and they here got tank.

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Like.

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01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:11.560
Something shifted right.

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01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.000
Some stood.

1235
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:22.439
It wasn't supposed to do it. It wasn't bill like

1236
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:32.760
in anything I knew. Some stood up. No world when quiet,

1237
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:39.159
I can know before I do.

1238
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:47.399
Seven foot or maybe more, hands hanging low like they'd

1239
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:53.479
seen more. No sound, no one insign, just the shape

1240
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:54.399
that didn't fit.

1241
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:56.000
The line said.

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01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:01.119
I see you without a plan, didn't feel break, didn't

1243
01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:05.159
feel like a man. It dropped a little, then turned

1244
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.760
deleat not before it looked to me.

1245
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:11.119
Some stood.

1246
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:20.399
I wasn't supposed to do, that wasn't built like anything

1247
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:21.319
I knew.

1248
01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:25.239
Some stood up.

1249
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:34.279
And the world went quiet, like a new before I

1250
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:35.199
ever do.

1251
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:57.279
M HM, didn't fly, didn't fake, didn't vanish into some

1252
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.920
other place, set run through U S broke the line

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01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:03.239
like flesh.

1254
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:13.520
And blood, like yours in my mind, like yours in

1255
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:28.920
my line. Some stood up, ninet forgot every step back.

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To that truck.

1257
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:41.600
Some stood up, and I still don't know if I

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01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.760
found it before we found