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This ain't no pret.
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the frequency seeds in the midst We dropped fass like
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plagus revelations in the catus, broadcasting truth while they trapped
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in surveillans wisdom with a watchman's blade, forth what sound
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while your whole system faid blood moons that for love
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echoes in the pond sasquarsper through the fault lines of time.
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prophets to code the dreams, so with you throw them
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in better guards to mind as broadcasting seeds and were
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breaking the design of design. Yeah, yeh ye ye, straight
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from the broadcast studio.
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All right, Seth Vanderbrook, tell us who you are, what
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you do, and where people can find you.
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Well, like you said, my name is Seth Vanderbrook. I
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am a full time Bible answer man. If you will,
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I do theological work for my church, full time answering
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questions about the Bible, opinions that our pastors have on passages,
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even to stuff that people reach out about like does
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the Bible confirm flat Earth or other stuff like that,
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so we'll get some interesting strange questions as well. So
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I got to do that full time and a couple
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of other things through through that church position. And when
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I'm not doing that, I'd like to spend my time
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reading old books and studying strange enigmas in history and
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the Bible. And that's led me to finding a lot
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of strange and interesting things in history in the Bible,
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which yeah, has led me to sharing a lot of
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that stuff, and that's started some very interesting conversations that
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led me down some rabbit trails. That's really been an
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incredible journey meeting people all over the world and working
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with people all over the world that have helped me
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from everything from translating things that haven't been translated to
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finding things that are really hard to find, just to
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verify the strangeness of history and different documents. So that's
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who I am and what I do. You can find
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me at Project lizer dot com. That's where I have
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a bunch of stuff, my resources, podcasts, I've been on
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and are all the articles that I put out about
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all those different topics that I find myself studying awesome.
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So first question that I ask, well, it's the only
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question technically that I ask every guest, is what is
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your gateway to this world of high strangeness? I think
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what brought you to this?
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It was definitely a long journey of things that all
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added up together. But I'd say probably the first thing
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that got me interested in the strangeness was personal experiences.
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I had a lot of demonic experiences as a child
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and didn't know what category to put them in. That
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I for years, I just didn't know what to do
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with it. I didn't know where to look for that.
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That wasn't really a thought that I could find clear
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answers other than, like, you know, scary stuff happened sometimes.
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But when I got more and more answers from the
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Bible and realized how many really weird and strange things
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the Bible addresses, I was like, WHOA, I can actually
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find answers about these things. And so I don't know
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what year, but several years back I finally started getting
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into that stuff in the Bible and the nepheline and
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all that, and that was a very quick gateway into
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the high strangeness of the world. So i'd say that's
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the thing that pointed me in that direction.
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Yeah, for sure. I would say one of the first
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things that I found, well, it's actually the thing that
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sent me down the rabbit trail to you was a
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article that you just wrote not that long ago, at
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the beginning of this month, and that's the Night's watch
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dog Man according to the ninth century kings and scholars.
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Talk to me about that a little bit.
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Yeah, So that that's funny because that that article was
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actually kind of a last minute put together of things
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that I had found, Like I've found so many documents
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about dog headed people throughout history, it's just kind of ludicrous.
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And and so when I was talking to the host
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for for Nice Watch and he was like, hey, like,
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what kind of you know, dog man stuff do you
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want to hit or whatever? And he's like, what's what's interesting?
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What's fresh in your mind? I was like, well, you know,
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like the ninth century stuff seems to be the most
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interesting to me. So I kind of put those different
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sources together and was like, let's talk about that and
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it fascinated me that that century, for whatever reason, there
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was just more documents that talked about about the Sinocephaly,
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this race of dog headed men in history, and the
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fact that there were so many, so many very prominent people,
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kings and scholars, multiple different locations throughout Europe, all talking
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about the same thing, not realizing that they had different
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sources from each other, not even talking to each other, right,
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But they're all talking about the same thing. They're all
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corroberating the same thing and even corroborating with ancient scholars
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that they hadn't read that we're also saying the same
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thing from like a thousand years before them. So it's
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just a really fun It was a fun topic to
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write about and talk about on the podcast.
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Yeah, Well, what I'd really like you to dive into
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is the three races and that well it's not really concept,
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just that it is, right, But we talk about the
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three races as the children are the sons of God,
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right and human women m hm, like giants, the nephelum
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and eliud so, which is a word that a lot
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of people throw around, but not everyone knows necessarily what
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that means. So I have my own theories, but I
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would love to hear Yeah.
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I'll be curious to hear yours too.
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Yeah, it's probably similar, but.
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I would imagine yeah.
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So yeah, So this is a really interesting topic. It
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is incredibly enigmatic the words that are used, so for
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anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about. And First Enoch,
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which is this very old writing. Specifically, the part of
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First Enoch that it's written is very very old, predates
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the birth and life of Jesus Christ. That fragment of
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First Eenoch, this old writing which is found in the
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Dead Sea.
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Scrolls in Cumran.
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It talks about a lot of things, but one of
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the main narratives that discusses is the Genesis six narrative,
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which is the Sons of God, which are these angelic
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creatures that come down. They cohabitate with humanity and they
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marry women and they have children, and those children are
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only briefly mentioned in Genesis six, but when it's mentioned,
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it specifically says that these guys were well known and
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the men of renowned.
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These are the heroes of old.
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So what that is saying explicitly is like, hey, we
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don't have to explain this concept to you because everybody
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already knows. Now for modern people, not everybody knows. So
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how do we know, Well, we read other literature from
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similar ethnic groups in similar time periods, and what we
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end up with is a lot of Jewish literature that
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kind of helps us fill in those gaps. Right, as Christians,
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we don't teach them, teach them as like being as
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authoritative as the candidate scripture, but it's still very helpful
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to know for sure, at least what people thought, what
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they were thinking of when this these words were being
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thrown around, right, so you can debate is this absolutely
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true or not? Like, well, that's just history. Like it's
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so hard, you know, we we have to put a
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lot of work into verifying how sure we are about
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certain things. But but in these in this story First
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Enoch and this other writing Jubileese, they both expound on
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this Genesis six narrative and they talk about more of
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those things that were kind of assumed that the reader
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would know. And what I don't hear a whole lot
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of people talking about is that there is this taxonomy
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of these creatures that's that's relayed in First Knock seven
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and Jubileese seven, that in those chapters. There's more than
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just this singular word nephilem, but that that word Nephileine
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is actually broken out into three races to three categories,
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and those three categories are the great Giants and then
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just the Nephalim. And then in Enoch we see el
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Eud being the words that's used, which a lot of
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scholars are pretty sure is actually a corrupted reading of
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the word. So a lot of these things are fragmented,
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and we're pretty sure that that wasn't the full word
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that was being used in those original texts, but we
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don't know exactly what it was, so that leaves some
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rooms for speculation already. And then we have in Jubileze,
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we have a different word used in the same place,
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so it's telling the same similar story, but it's using
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a different word, and instead of el Eud, it uses
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the word el joe or really would be going as Elio,
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word for ely yon, which is a way of referring
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to a god. So that's interesting either way. Both Eliud
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and el yo, in those words, they both contain l
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which refers to god or a god. So whatever it
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is this race has some type of demi god characteristic,
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which makes sense because we already know that the Nepheline
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are these kind of demi god creatures, right. They're half angelic,
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half human, and so they had certain abilities, certain strengths.
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A lot of them were giants. But anyone who follows
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a lot of stuff that I talk about, when you
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read a lot of old literature, you find that it
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was a lot more complicated than that there were just
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large people. That's actually described more in detail. That they
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looked different from humanity, and my article on the Three
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Races talks a lot about this. Josephus in his writings
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that the Antiquities of Jews, he talks about this and says, hey,
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these guys didn't even look like humans, and so what
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does that mean exactly? We don't know, but they looked different.
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They did not look like us, because like, they looked
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entirely different. He said, they sounded so different that it
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was terrifying to look at them or to hear their
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So we look at that. And that's some pretty strong
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language that Josephus is using, saying, hey, this is this
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is otherworldly kind of stuff, right, And that for anyone
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who's interested is in antiquities to the Jews. In Book five,
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Chapter two, section three, that's where that is exactly. So
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when we're looking at this concept of these three races,
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that's what we're talking about. We're talking about these writings
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that describe almost this taxonomy of creatures that not only
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were there three races, but also i'll read here in
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a second in jubileeze it actually talks about this hierarchy,
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if you will, of power and even what ends up
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happening in the narrative. So in Jubilee seven, verse twenty two,
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it says, and they be got sons the Nephidine, and
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they were all un alike, So total diversity here, and
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what these creatures look.
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Like were no way.
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They didn't look like humanity, but they also didn't always
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look like each other, so there's a lot of biodiversity here.
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And then it says they devoured one another, and the
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giants slew the Niphil, and the Nephil slew the el
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Joe or the el Yoh and the el Yoh mankind
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and mankind one another. He'll have slight variations spending on
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the English translation that you use there, but that's the
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same consistent story that you're going to get in Jubilee seven,
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and that compares very nicely to what we see over
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in First Enoch chapter seven, or says in verses ten
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and eleven. Now that now the versus numbers are slightly
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different depending on the translation you use there as well,
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but that one says, and they the women bore to
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them the watchers. Three races. First the great giants, and
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then it says the great giants brought forth, or some
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translations say slew the Nephalim and the Nephialm brought forth
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or slew the lud, and they existed, increasing in power
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according to their greatness. So both of these describe this
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hierarchy of like the great Giants being the most powerful,
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the Nephilene being in the middle, the elo or the
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el Joe or eliud, whatever word you want to use,
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there being lower, but still them being far superior to humanity,
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and then humanity fighting amongst themselves as well, but clearly
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not being able to really over overthrow the other races.
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So this is the concept that we're talking about.
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Recognize that the nephilem ling linguistically, specifically grammatically, when we're
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looking at the way these sentences are formed. In verse
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twenty two in Jubilee seven, it starts out by saying,
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and they begot sons the Nephidine or the Nephileine, So
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it's that is the category that is the correct word,
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right same in Genesis six, and it says they were
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all in a like and they devoured one another, and
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then it gives us a list, So that's telling us
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that the list of the giants, which includes the Nephilene,