April 30, 2026

Antonio Alves on UFOs, Hybrids, and Government Disclosure | UFO Mysteries

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In this episode of Broadcasting Seeds, Bennett Tanton sits down with Antonio Alves, author of Gods or Civilizations from the Stars, for a deeply personal and mysterious conversation about UFO encounters, missing time, strange lights, ancient civilizations, Fatima, and the possibility that the “gods” of old may have been visitors from beyond Earth. Antonio grew up in a small village in Portugal, where his experiences began as a child after seeing a strange bright light above his family’s olive trees. From there, his life took a turn into the unexplained: sleep paralysis, strange calls to ancient sites, prophetic dreams, missing time, encounters with shadowy beings, and even an unsettling black car experience that sounds eerily close to classic “Men in Black” lore. The conversation also dives into the mystery of Fatima, ancient texts, alien DNA, hybrids, family bloodlines, disclosure, and why Antonio believes many contactees may carry a mission to tell humanity that something is here, something has always been here, and maybe our ancestors called them gods because they had no other word for them. This is one of those episodes that sits right at the crossroads of UFOs, ancient history, spiritual interpretation, and high strangeness.

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I saw a big bright light in the above of

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the olive us. When I run back again, the lights

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still over there, and just there was the light within.

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It's the same light, but that time the light is

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not white, but it's orange. No sounds that we just

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look at the light until the appeared in the in

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the dark.

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Broadcast scene.

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Broadcast they see play in the minds.

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Of the video.

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All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds.

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I am your host, Bena Tantan, and today we have

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a guess. His name is Antonio Alvez and he is

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the author of Gods or Civilizations from the Stars, and

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he has a heck of a story and he's here

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to tell it. Antonio, welcome to Broadcasting Seeds. Tell everybody

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who you are and what's the best place that they

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can find you.

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Okay, my name is Antonio Alvez, that come from Portugal,

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and I live in Connecticut for a while eighty seven

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until ninety eighty eight, and now I live in California.

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And it's just the base of my life, you know,

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and i'd be in this UFOs aliens and all my

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life stop beginning a real child.

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Where in Connecticut did you live?

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I live in Danbury, Connecticut.

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Okay, I'm from Fairfield, so not very far either way.

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So what where can people buy your book?

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Uh? Amazon, but it got it got a free also

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in my Instagram in the isidram uh DC point a

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l v y s. You just go over there and

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get to free the book, you know.

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Okay, awesome. So I guess for people hearing your story

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for the first time, what is the what is gods

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or civilizations from the stars in in your own words?

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Uh? This, well, this start with with my encounters, you know,

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and the book comes with not just experience but everything

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I started to learn. I don't know from where, from who?

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But this is why the book come and and give

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this name because this is what why why I can't

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see they they told me who I sent to the people?

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You know, all the message from the gods is from

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it's not gods, but it's another civilization has come from

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different parts of ornivefs and just not teacher, but they

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make us, you know, by the experience, you know, biology

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experience and that. Yeah, I want some parts of them,

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you know too.

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Yeah okay, well, so yeah I'm gonna light So so

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let's start at the beginning. So it was nineteen seventy nine, right.

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Nineteen seventy eight, seventy eight, seventy eight, seventy seventy eight,

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I go wrong, eleven eleven years old when they one day.

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Yeah, take us back to that first It was a night, right,

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first night.

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With the light. Yeah. I was living in the small village,

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real small, less than one thousand people. You know, everybody, everybody,

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and uh, I was a kid. And when you got

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lucky because nothing happened, and I can't. We can go

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out at night with the friends. Really, you know it's

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cool because no danger at all. And uh, one night,

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I tell my friend name, I was younger. Okay, we

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go dinner. After the dinner, go mad to go to

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the club. And my parents, yeah they still a farm

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with a lot of olive us, and uh, okay, I

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got the dinner and I just go walk to the

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column for we go out. And uh, but for do that,

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I must go walking between the olive us, no lights,

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all dark. And one night, I know it's winter time,

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and I saw a big bright light in the above

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of the olive us. The be so big there must

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be around maybe four or five olive us. I'll bet

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that light I look at the light for a while,

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and uh, I come in my mind. Let me go

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hold my friend and uh for see the light too,

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you know. And I go call him, but it was

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not there, and I go to the club. And when

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I run back again, the light's still over there in

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the boff of the olive us. Just when I go

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hold my friend and we go run again to the farm,

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there was the light within. It's the same light, but

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that time the light is not white, but it's orange,

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and move above the tree, the trees, no sounds, nothing,

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We just look at the light until disappeared in the

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in the dark, you know, And and we look each other,

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you know. And you know because portually have until ninety

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seven before we have fascists over there, and the we

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have just one channel, six hours a day, and it's

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a it's a government channel. We even don know uf word,

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you know in Portuguese. All the we even don't know that.

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We can't give anything that it's a light. It's all

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a light. And uh, one day my friend saw in

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the newspaper something's happened in Spain, and uh after that

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we call a UFO for that light, you know. But

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there was not the light that what does come after

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in my life? They change everything, They changed the concept everything,

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even in the school, you know, And I start interesting

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about ancient tests, special the Bible. It's the Catholic country.

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We have daisy, the Bible and all kinds of all

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kinds of religions stuff, and I sigh. Of a dreams

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and the dreams sometimes come true. It's not a big deal,

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not big big, but they come. It looks like a message.

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I saw. It's in voices. And one of the things

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really scare me is the paralyze. I sigh, have that

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kind of paralyzed, you know, And you know you are

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a kid. You can't ask anybody, you know. I tell

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my parents now, but you know, religion, they come to

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the religions. That's what my mother, Thank God must be

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dom or something like that. That and even there's no

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one you know what what is because all these things happen.

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I don't know nothing, well until I come to United

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States Connecticut. Uh, And I enjoyed the move o and

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that time when I go to the meetings and I

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see that people have this almost the same experience about

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all that. You know, I don't know even what is

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missing missing time, that kind of words. Nothing you know,

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if you have not even there no UFO word, but

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I don't know another one. And uh and that that's

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that is one of the things real scars. There was

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the paralyzed. You know, that's you. You can you have

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no sounds, you know. And what I was free from

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that paralyze. I just run to the bedroom to my parents.

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There was they start being so many times my mother

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guy that coach and for just I just just wait

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that back in the bedroom just when I run and

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I go over there and I sleeping, and that's it.

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And that's just when they start the book and I

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start things take from the Bible and from another another

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ancient test. Sometimes I even doesn't know what I'm doing.

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I'm just right. And another thing they start is the calls.

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I was like, but this is a still about three

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weeks now, about one month, I got the calls. They stilled.

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I have that call and the cause is I'm just

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sometimes they're bad. Sometimes I do something, I have that

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feeling I must deal that place and that place usually

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it's like a center place, you know. In that area,

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we have a lot of like a chromlex, you know,

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like and the Dolmond and we have a hundred that

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things all around, and all the calls I must deal

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someplace someplace that and there was not the same all

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the time. They have three different plates. I'm there, and

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the thing is, sometimes I just pass through that one

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because it's not that one. I must still and I

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stay over there for twenty twenty five minutes, half hour.

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The must of the time nothing happened. Maybe ninety nine

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point five doesn't happen the time I'm going. But when

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I was there, I start feeling you must go, you

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must go leaving it can't you can't say anymore, just

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go away. Then I'm just walking and that's it. And

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this is after that light. All these things happened to me,

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you know, and like uh, sometimes I look and tell

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my friends look in the corner of that house. They

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become a guy with this this this you know special

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it's like not this jable, but you can't see it

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second minutes before that thing happened, you know. And if

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what I understand is when I go more inside these

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things more that visions they come, you know. And I

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learned already with all these years, if I come too

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close to the people come too close to me, like

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the old friend or wife or something. Right that these

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do see things too, you know. It looks like, uh,

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I don't know, it's okay, you must they showed them

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for this. Maybe start really believe in one of the

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stuff I'm saying, this thing relapence, you know.

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Yeah, So what would like when you have the paralyzing,

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the paralyzed what do you call them? Paralyzing vibrations something that.

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Because that that thing that didn't come in come from

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they go the first my feet, my legs and all

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my body, you know, and they have like you have,

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like you have an ants or something in your body. Yeah,

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you understand. This is kind of that thing, you know.

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And this is real fast. It's real fast. It can

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really fast.

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What what would happen? And like when you were in

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bed do you remember anything? Do you remember?

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I just now have a feeling like here's something that

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grabbed me here and I scared and that I call

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my parents, but no, songs are all nothing, nothing, you know.

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And I remember one day I was can move mine

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right arm? And I touched in that because it's people

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yet it's not the book, it's just the paper. And

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I touched the people and that thing gone, and I

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was so happy because I can't find something I can

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or release and I'm free. But the next night, not

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that night, but one day happened again. I tried to

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grab the papers and I touched nothing happened. There was

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just a coincidence about that that night and the thing

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just I don't know. I can't tell you if it

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was ten minutes, five minutes, one may, I can I

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can't tell that because I don't know, you know, I

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just know there was the all things happened in my life,

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There was the scary things happened. There was that, you know,

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but it's after two three years, maybe more, maybe five years,

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that thing it's gone. Then that happened again.

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So so after that you never had the paralyzed feeling again. Yeah,

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So from there, where do we go? The black car?

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That's an interesting story, Yeah, this is and this is

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interesting two because this happened nineteen eighty, ninety eighty, nineteen

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eighty one.

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So not not too far after your first the first

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few incidents, and you started having no that was because

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after that, every time, every week or like that, something happened.

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You know, that is not a really interest, but especially calls.

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The calls is almost every week one to times. I'm

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still that place. You know, this happened, This still happened.

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This this there is still all my life. I got

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that call if going on.

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So when you go, is there anything there? I mean.

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There was there was one time, but this is two thousand,

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two thousand and six. I saw something over there and

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I sold four shadows over there. You know, there was different.

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But another time I'll just be over there. And the

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thing is is that the feeling is so strong. You go,

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and the feeling is so strong, get out of this

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place right right away. It's the same, you know, but

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just happened two thousand six. Yeah, yeah, So talk about

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the black cart. And because it's a small village and

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we have just schooled till sixty degree. After that time

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we must go to the high school for another city.

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It's said twenty two kilometers. It's not too five, okay.

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In the morning we have a bus. In the afternoon

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we must get the normal bus and the time the

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normal time bus. And we're doing we have not and

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that years some years we have not classes in the afternoon,

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like Wednesdays, special wednesdays. And well what we're doing is

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we go some guys and I go with a guy.

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Normally we'll go to two guys, go to the road

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and ask for for right, you know, for And I

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was with a friend mine and you know, like a

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kids stuff and the everything is okay, we have five cars.

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The guy got the right, go to the next driver kids.

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The thing you know, uh, this is eighteen eighty that

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must be for uh. And I was asked for the right.

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They come a black car, a real nice car, and

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and I, you know, I want to just tell one

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thing before all that boat rights and never think my

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life until two thousand and seven, I think to tell.

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In six two thousand and seven, I met the president

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of APO with a Portuguese of huge studying. And this

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guy is so change about that drive. And matter of fact,

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it's that talking said oh there must be men in black,

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men in black. I don't think so yeah. And you know,

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one day he called me. I said, hey, we have

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a talking show. We want to go go back, and

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I was it was three guys. I was the first

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talk about the story. And I talked about that story.

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Olive was started and the guy just jumped and said, well, look,

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tell tell him Tony, tell about the men's in black.

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I said, oh, no, I don't believe it. Now tell

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this story again, you know, because uh well, let's go back.

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And the car stopped, real nice car stop, and we

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talked eighties and we are real surprised the windown even

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it's not manual, it's automatic or reddit and opened and

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and I I asked it. I asked the man, Well, well,

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I will go ask and he said, okay, help, come

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come inside. Let's come inside, and my friends sit down

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in the back and sit down with the driver. When

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you start, when you start drive, the first question he did.

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Usually they asked for the school at the school going,

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but what that's kind of stuff that guy does. Did that?

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He turned to me, he said, well, what I all

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you think about bermooda triangle? I said what? But he

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even doesn't even doesn't wait for the answer. He starts

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talking about aliens, UFOs h G per intension aliens. He

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talked about DNA. I even doesn't know what you're talking

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about the DNA, and he talked about iyebrids. I don't

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know nothing. And if keep talking talking, it's a it's

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a it's a man around seven seventy five years old.

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He's just talking, talking, talking, talking, And usually they drop

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us on in the road and we walked into home.

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And this guy doesn't it. They go inside the village,

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they stop in the front of the house of my friend.

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Never nobody told them where my friend lived, and they

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just stop in the front of the gate of the farm,

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almost the same place where my son my friend and

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saw that orange light. Well, and they turned to me

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and they told me three books fire reading one of

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them it's the UFOs in Fatima, you know, the centre

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of Fatima. I said, okay, we you know that time,

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we have no even library and I know I never

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can gether that that book. Well, and they just say

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goodbye and they left. After I don't know there was months.

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I know that wasn't the same year, but I don't

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know how many months. I was with another friend and

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asked for the ride and they come that black car

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and they stopped. I even don't remember anymore about the

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black guy. I remember the cross of the conversation all

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because it was really strange, you know. And when they

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opened the wind I look, I see it's the same guy.

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And then the guy just said, okay, come inside. You

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know he's you have a black all black. The closes

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it's all black. But this time they have another guy

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in the back seat of the driver. I don't see

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the guy very well. But my friend in the morning

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told me all the story. And but this is another friend.

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You just sit down next that guy and I sit

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there with the driver. He asked me if I were uh,

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I wrote, I read the books and I lie. I said,

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I was so busy stepping you know. Uh. And the

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guy but the guy doesn't care the answer. He just

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started all over again, all the story, ancient aliens, building,

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the appearance. Uh uh, everything the same. Oh wait, all

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the way. And I just listened what they did, what

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he did. He was at the village. This is different,

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different friends. He stopped in the front of his house.

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Nobody told me where the guy lives. It just stop

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over there. You go in the same place before. He

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just let me over there and and he turned to

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me and said, okay, one day we go mad again.

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I don't know if you met them or not.

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Uh.

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And it's just leaving in the morning. It looked like

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in the morning when I wait for the bus to come,

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a friend mine and we start talking about strange things

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that happened, you know. And my friend said, look that guy.

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The guy was in the back. That guy's real strange.

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He doesn't look at me one second. He keeps just

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looking ahead. If you have a sunglasses, real cool, he said,

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it's real cooly there. It's like cut light army. It's

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around he said, twenty three, twenty five years old. And

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but he said, one of the surprise them is is

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the color of the skin. They were so white, they

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said they could. They said it looked like ceramic.

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You know.

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It's some like wax, you know. And and he's a

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little pistol. Because look, I say, I it doesn't even

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look at me. I say goodbye, It doesn't look at me.

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He just keeps straight. He said. So I looked one time,

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just for sure there was a toy or there was

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a real man. But he said, no, there was a man.

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He said, the Okain system. But he just keep looking,

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doesn't say one word, doesn't look at him nothing.

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You know.

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But this is is described because I saw just saying

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when a little bit second when I go inside and

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said cut you know. And after that, far as I know,

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I never saw that man again, you know. And this

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and like I said, it was that that guy. Uh

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uh really care about this, right? And I never think

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there was man of but I'm still I don't know.

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I'm not sure. It's like the story is the story

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is real strange. There was, you know, especially the first question.

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But after a while I started thinking there was not

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so strange running When he asked me about the Bermuda Triangle.

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I was in that time reading a book about that case,

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the fight nineteen that all the planes appear in the

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Bermuda Triangle and they come more strange how he knows?

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I read that in that time, that book, you know,

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but that's happened.

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Wow, man, so you had two Yeah, that's wild. The

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guy with the pasty white skin, but he didn't say

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anything to anybody.

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The guy in the back, Yeah, nothing even doesn't move

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because I couldn't even think there was a toy or

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something over that. It doesn't move, right, Yeah, yeah, that's right,

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even because it's and it's a real pistol, because it's

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said hi and goodbye and then say, I don't know,

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you know, but it's really there was a strange. It's

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a strange because we talked ninety eight. You know, it's

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a long time ago when the special that country have

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just one channel, government channel, and that guy come with

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all that stories. The most of the time, most of

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the things, I even doesn't stand what he said, you know,

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but you know, and uh by that that time they

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you know, he talked ibrids. You know, he talked about DNA,

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alien d and they all that that stuff, and you know,

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fun doesn't matter what it is. I'm sure he does,

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he knows. I don't the most the things that he talking,

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I don't know what he talked about. I'm just listening

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to the let's say, you know and that. Yeah, but

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this happened.

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So so next we moved to a story about where

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you were at home watching TV.

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Yeah, yes, this this happened nineteen eighty one. I was

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because my mother is in the hospital that time, and

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I was with my father and they watched TV. You

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know one polem have just one channel that that poem

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and that we have a lot of dogs and the

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real strong dogs is that kind of dog My father

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have cows and it's that kind of dogs for care

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about cows and it's real. You have that tempting for

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five and we will watch the program and all the

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dogs star to make noise, not just hours, but all

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the neighbors, you know, and I tell my father, Okay,

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I'm gonna see what's happened.

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You know.

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When I step out for see what's happened. Everything, Oh,

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everything was quite, no noise at all. I call my dogs,

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my dogs. I don't know where they are. They disappeared,

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all the dogs from the neighbors. There was a quite

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white place. You can't imagine. No no cows, no horses.

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You don't see any noise. In that moment, I look

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up in the sky and I saw a big cylinder,

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orange cylinder in the sky. But there was real, real

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big and I just sloped, no noise, nothing, but they

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moved really slow. It was like slow, real slow. But

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and I just look at that. I call my father

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if I come outside, they'll see this thing. My father come,

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We be looking at that thing, just move real real quiet.

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And I remember my father told me about the noise.

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And they had no noise at all. And it looks

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like the life stop, you know. And we'll be looking

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at and my father's I'm going back and go watch

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TV and the things. And I still over there for

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what maybe one minute or something like that, and I said, okay,

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you know, I don't know nothing about what I see

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I'm still there and I'm going back. And after a while,

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I don't know how many minutes, all the noise, all

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the dogs, all the life come back, and I said,

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I'll go outside again. I don't. And that time I

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look at the sky and that thing it's gone, you know.

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And all these times when I think about what's happened,

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forever is that thing? Is they stop the time or forever?

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Because nothing moved, nothing, just me and my father, and

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that thing is so big, so big, I don't believe

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there was just me and my father saw that thing.

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There must be more people and then we never not

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we don't talk about that, but there must be more

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more people of course.

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So that yeah, man, So it was like cigar shaped,

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so it's like a craft.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, this looks like a

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real orange, you know, and just it looks like a pencil,

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you know, and just move real real looks like real

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slow you know, and you know all big. Yes, there

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must be real real sound that they have any sound

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at all, well, not sound like nothing. It's a real

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empty sound.

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Like get shut down. Everything that looks like we move.

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For another space time as well everything, you know.

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Yeah, for the dogs to stop barking. That's like a

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it's hard to say.

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And I remember I called. I called the dogs and

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the answer, you know, you were talking about real strong dogs.

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You know. I'll fraid that the animals would go before

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being for I don't know where it is, you know,

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and when I come and and all the noise, all

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the dogs is the life is normal when the light

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it's one, you know, And well, I don't know. And

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I just start listening about that cylinders shape and when

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I when I was in the United States and the

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moveable that's when I saw listening that, you know, because

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all the things happened with me, even the missing time

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and that I have. I never I never listen nothing.

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I just want came here, I learned, you know. I

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just see the closing counter. I just see the closing

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country nineteen I think eighty eight, I think when I

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saw the closing counter the movie. You know, you can't

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see our back react in that country that time.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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So the next incident nineteen eighty six on your father's birthday,

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mm hmm, yeah much. What happened on You're riding a bike?

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Yeah, I was. I was with a friend of mine

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nineteen years old, almost threey and the story there was

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the same, you know, a small village. We ride a

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bikele and one our friend said, okay, it's almost seven o'clock. Yeah,

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let's go dinner. And we met in the club. It's

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the story that the day is possible. The story is

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yeah always the club right, yeah, I think they say

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they still the same movie now. Uh and uh. There

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was real close the gate of the farm of my

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00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.160
parents and I just got the bike. I just started.

462
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.920
When I go no, almost inside of the farm. I

463
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.480
looked up and I saw it looks like a star.

464
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.440
That's you know, with all these years and the walking

465
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.920
for some place and as we look at the sky

466
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.359
and we start learning something, you know, constellation Venus all

467
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.440
that kind and I looked at there was a look

468
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.839
strange because it's not normal that start there was there.

469
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.799
What I did is I go around the farm for

470
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.720
catch for they'll be closed more closed that thing because

471
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.680
I know that that is closed in the star. When

472
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.440
I got in the road one road that start that

473
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.599
light just the pier and appier is another side of

474
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:50.480
the road. And I just walked and they did that

475
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:56.119
for four times for one left right right, left, left, right, uh.

476
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.039
And when it was in the right side the light,

477
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.960
the peer and it's gone. And that time I look

478
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.079
at the watch and they say seven forty five. I say,

479
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.240
it's impossible. They don't take me. What I did. I

480
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.680
go back in the place and then go back with

481
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.720
the bike and they take me about three minutes, four minutes,

482
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.359
let's go say five minutes, you know, and they still

483
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.720
missing that time territory five minutes around that and that

484
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.839
I can't explain what's really happened, you know. And the

485
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.880
one more time, I just start listening. When I come

486
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.880
here two to move home, there was real.

487
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.960
Sad and just missing time incidents.

488
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:40.759
Yeah, yeah, there was. There was.

489
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.960
So then in nineteen eighty seven, you traveled to Canada.

490
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.599
Yeah, yeah, to Canada, live for two days and they

491
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.640
come to nine State, Connecticut and I was leading over

492
00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:02.960
there for eleven eleven years eleven minutes. Yeah, And and

493
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.240
this as well when I met when I met the

494
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.960
move for and the I remember the lady there was

495
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.599
the first time in the house. The lady is the

496
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.799
name is Anastasia or something. I don't remember that, you know,

497
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:18.079
they were.

498
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.160
She How did how did move on help you?

499
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:21.279
Like?

500
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.640
Did it just change how you're like, oh my gosh,

501
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:24.519
I'm not crazy.

502
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.359
No, you know, did help a lot, you know, because first,

503
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:34.079
you know, you start listening noise. I'm sorry, stories almost

504
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.359
the same our mind story, you know, And I said,

505
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:41.480
well maybe something you see it, you know, because even

506
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.680
that time from we call aliens or it's a little string,

507
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:51.000
because I know from the beginner everything start apple with me.

508
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.160
There was because that light that night. I know that

509
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.200
you know this, I know, but the move helped me

510
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.920
a lot about I understand listening to other people, you know.

511
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:08.359
And and they start make my investigation, go to the libraries,

512
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:13.319
start studying as things they go be it happened like

513
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:15.319
that happened with me.

514
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:15.640
You know.

515
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.839
And and this is what they happened when when you

516
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.599
you told me about this, when I'm walking to a

517
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.559
place and nothing happened. Two thousand and six, there was

518
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:34.839
the time I reresulting over there. I was almost go

519
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.519
to the bed. This is about eleven pm. And then

520
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.440
I have that feeling I must go walk in that

521
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.119
place and I'm just go over there, right and they

522
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.640
and they have this and I grabbed all the papers

523
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.240
because no, I'm sorry, yeah, I got all the papers.

524
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.200
They go be the book. Let's go with me all

525
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.720
the time. Of course, the time I go right right

526
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.359
and the smart papers more papers, they're with me. And

527
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.519
that moment I was there and I know I'm feeling

528
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.480
the first thing, I look at the sky and it's

529
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.679
like the dune all in the top, you know. And

530
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.880
I look at the sky and then and I can't

531
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:22.199
see any constellations. I can I know, I can't give

532
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.320
any name because it looks like the sky there was

533
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:28.199
different sky. And that moment I start feeling I was

534
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.679
not just me over there, but they have something there.

535
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.320
And there was the first time I will sew four shadows.

536
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.559
There was a big one and the two small ones,

537
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:47.639
another big one and by the shadon they looks like

538
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.880
there was the gray ones, you know, but there was

539
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.400
just a shadow, but you know the figure is slightly

540
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.599
gray ones.

541
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.599
They have that the that both.

542
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.599
Because they have two big ones and two small ones.

543
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.000
It is one big one, two small ones and one

544
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:07.760
big one. And I look and I talked with them,

545
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.679
you know, I just you know, and I know they

546
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.159
were about two meters from me, and I just grabbed

547
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.519
the papers and I take the papers on the floor.

548
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.360
This is in the middle of nowhere, and I said,

549
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.599
look what I'm doing with this? All my life with this,

550
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.639
what I'm doing and I know that thing, this is

551
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:33.280
real strange. The message comes from the guy from my

552
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.960
left side, the tall one and the county. It's like

553
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:37.719
telpet you.

554
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.719
So yeah, or you could you could just hear them.

555
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.679
Yeah, yeah, you just go inside the brain. It's not taught.

556
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.079
And they said they will be. I will be met

557
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.639
somebody and they go be helped me the computer stuff

558
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.159
and they're gonna be helped me. The book will be

559
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.519
pretty soon go out. This is too two thousand and

560
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.480
six and the book coming in Portuguese twenty ten. Uh.

561
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:12.639
I said okay, and after that, just the appear, all

562
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.320
that doom. It's in the top, just the peer and

563
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.840
I look at the sky and that starts recognized the

564
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:26.719
constellation that oh the sky is the normal. What's it

565
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:27.480
supposed to be?

566
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.639
Yeah?

567
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.079
And the truth is after one year I met a

568
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.760
woman there was will be my wife and it's my

569
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:41.559
ex wife and she helped me with the computer. And

570
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.239
matter of fact, he found that that apl the Portugue

571
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.960
Association and then he helping the finish that thing and

572
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.000
it was a really strange, because you know, I'm really

573
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.639
convinced that thing really happened, because the things happened after

574
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:03.840
it's right the same that that being told me there

575
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:08.599
will be happen. This thing is two thousands. Yeah, you

576
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:15.440
know this is this is one the the the thing

577
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.280
happened one of the days. I'm just walking for that place. Yeah.

578
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.239
And after that, matter of fact, my ex wife when

579
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.679
we met that that man the president one day. I

580
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.599
don't know if you know there. She was real famous.

581
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.320
She worked with John mc doctor Gildamoa. She's from Brazil.

582
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.119
And I've heard the name.

583
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:47.360
And and one day the president they called me and said, look,

584
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.679
we have a meeting. Today's about aduptees. Because it's a

585
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.559
little certain story that I've got to tell you now.

586
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.360
It's this seppened two thousand. It must be two thousand

587
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.280
and eight, something like that. And I said, look, it's

588
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.599
about adoptees, the famous children mo blah blah blah. And

589
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.559
I said, okay, I be in Lisbon because they have

590
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.239
a meeting every last Saturday the month in Lisbon. They

591
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.880
have a place and uh, I said, okay, I'll be there.

592
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.400
And I go with with my ex wife and and

593
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.840
with my we have a child already a girl, and

594
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.039
we go over there and we start listening to what

595
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.000
she talking. Blah. This is the first time I met her.

596
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.639
And what's happened is they make they have a break

597
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.599
that they start seven until midnight and they have a

598
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:41.000
break like nine, nine thirty and the moment I have,

599
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.800
they have a break, and now we walk outside the room.

600
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.559
You know, I call unlucked memory. I don't know, but okay,

601
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.360
and I have that unluck memory and then never forget.

602
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.079
And you know, it's that unluck memory. You start remember. Thanks,

603
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.519
and I'm preppreciate you. I can tell you one to

604
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.559
percent that thing really happened, but I never forget that.

605
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:10.119
I'm black memory, you know. And what is this? I

606
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.840
was walking inside the ship and I don't I don't

607
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:17.599
saw with the eyes, just the mind in mine back

608
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.000
they're walking that tall gray ones with me too, and

609
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.079
just to we just go walk and we have a

610
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:30.679
room with a door and I can't see the room,

611
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.840
a empty room. In my right side, there was one, two, three,

612
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.880
the old all empty, the number the number four. When

613
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.239
I look, they have a child.

614
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.960
It's about so like a like a human child.

615
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.480
Yeah, you know, they have. They looks like human set

616
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:55.559
one they ever read. I'm sorry, yellow yellow air that

617
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.960
the guy that kid there was about sixteen seventeen years sold.

618
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.719
It's not more. All the kids look at me and

619
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.280
I look at them them, you know, and they have

620
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.280
a white robe, you know, and no shoes. And I

621
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.760
remember the floor it's like a great blue, uh light blue.

622
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:18.679
There was the called the floor. And I remember I

623
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.159
looked real straight in the eyes of the girl and

624
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.239
the like a Native American, you know, and she looked

625
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.920
at me like we know we know each other, you know.

626
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.559
After that, I just keep walking. And that's an unlike memory.

627
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.880
It's gone, you know. But I know something must be happened,

628
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.400
you know, because I know the start the meeting is

629
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:46.159
about adaptees. You know, we can maybe figure out something.

630
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.079
But all the things come in my mind, you know.

631
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.760
There was a real strange and the and the when

632
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:56.960
I got drive, when we drive back home, and they

633
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.000
come in my mind. One thing when I look at

634
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.400
the girl, I looks straight in the eyes, not above,

635
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.519
you know. And what I think by myself is I

636
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.440
must be have the girl. There must be around ten

637
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.760
twelve years so if this thing happened, I must be

638
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:17.000
at that age between ten twelve, because you know there

639
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.360
was because they were all kids, okay that they have

640
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.719
a kids looks like they play with the cubes that

641
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.960
I don't know. They must be like two years old

642
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.440
and they played with a little cubes.

643
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.960
But all you remember hearing anything.

644
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.920
Nothing all this. They standard over there look at me

645
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.039
like a strange Yeah, and what a strange guy was there?

646
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.920
And if you if you ask me, what is this

647
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.719
eyebrids or what else? It's the human beans. I don't know,

648
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.039
I don't you know. When we look with them, it

649
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.400
looks like human beings, you know, But I don't know

650
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.519
if what is And this is just unl um lacked memory.

651
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.559
It's not thinker.

652
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.760
I'm so you don't know if it's yeah, but you're

653
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.960
pretty sure it's an unlocked memory.

654
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.320
And gotcha because because I have that un white memory

655
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:18.679
about two years ago when I watched a movie, you know.

656
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:17.599
And.

657
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.079
And all my time I was living German from one

658
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.079
month until ninety ten years old, I was my parents

659
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:34.440
was immigrant in the German and I have one memory

660
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.599
is I walked with my father and I was when

661
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.639
I was young, I was sick all the time and

662
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.400
I walk in the parking, in the middle of the

663
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.000
trees with my father. And all this time I asked,

664
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.719
you know, well, my aunt, because almost all my family

665
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.320
got to German. My father was the first and called

666
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.119
everybody the work over there and and asked my aunt,

667
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:03.960
my uncle, my parents. They don't remember anything about walking.

668
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.480
I walked in the with him, and I know there

669
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:11.480
was not not there was not that thing one time,

670
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.400
but it's more times than one. And I said, okay,

671
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.840
I don't remember nothing, you know. And one day, because

672
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.400
my I want to tell you something. My family, from

673
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:30.119
the parts of my mother, even my mother, they saw

674
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.280
things too. If my grandmother saw things, this come in

675
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.920
the family, you know, life, this coming in the family.

676
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.199
And U And one day I was here already in California,

677
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.840
and I watched the movie now the I don't know

678
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.599
if you know this movie. He said that we comes.

679
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:53.800
It's something about mafia. Uh and uh. I wasn't even

680
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.719
remember that that that that thing, because I have just

681
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.519
that that second my father walked with me in the

682
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.639
parking and in the I was worked twenty five years

683
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.320
in the hospital, the cardiology area. And what I think

684
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.639
is maybe I have a lunch problem or something and

685
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:12.679
I was in the trees for the air, for pure

686
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:17.000
air or something like that. But nobody remember nothing. And

687
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.679
when I watch that movie and time eggs, this is

688
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:22.960
a mafia. I don't know the name of the movie.

689
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.320
It's you you work for the mafia, something like that.

690
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.760
And the kids saw the MafA killed a guy. There

691
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.960
was witness something like that, and the times look a

692
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.920
look at the mirror and the cameras in the backside

693
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.239
of the ad the movie. And I'm just look watch

694
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:49.000
the movie. And when he turned and I got unlocked memory.

695
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.400
You know that memory I have. Just second, I walked

696
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.519
with my father in the in the park the Stene

697
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.199
they can more seconds remember, and there was real surprise,

698
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.679
and the surprised me. And what I think is this

699
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:11.519
is why after I saw that another second, nobody remember

700
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.679
I'm walking with my father. Even my father doesn't remember

701
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:21.440
that because there was not my father. Well what I

702
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.199
saw after that second there, so I walking and I

703
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.559
try to run away from that man what I think

704
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.480
is my father and he turned. When he turned, it

705
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.199
rabbed me for the arm and they looked and now

706
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.760
look it's face, they ever man, it's a face, a

707
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.239
man like eighty five nineteen years old and the highs

708
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:48.079
it's will dark, you know. And I just got that

709
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.800
information and to stop, and I don't remember anything more.

710
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.440
But that was good for me because I understand why

711
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.159
my family doesn't remember that thing happened, you know.

712
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:06.800
Yuah yah. Let's fast forward a little bit to like, uh, Fatima, right,

713
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.880
and what was the name of the investigator?

714
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:23.480
Yeah, well Fatima. They start the miracle Fatima. They start

715
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:28.280
with it's it's just a few people know about this.

716
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.360
They saw with the code. Everybody think, you know, that's

717
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.159
what the church want show to the people, is they

718
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.960
saw with the angels visitor that that that three kids

719
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.519
and uh after that, every every thirteen of the months,

720
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.639
the Lady of Fatima showed to the kids until October. Yeah,

721
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.880
but that was not real that the real story is

722
00:46:54.119 --> 00:47:00.000
because uh, the Fatima start with the code. Three different

723
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.639
men from three different seities by dream, they got that

724
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.880
code one three, five, nine, one seven, and and they

725
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:14.599
they write that and they take that to the newspaper

726
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.679
and they pay for that thing going newspaper. That three

727
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.280
men they don't know each other. You know, we're tolled

728
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.840
nineteen seventy and one hundred something years ago. Uh, and

729
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.639
this is why i'd come to uh, come Fatima, come

730
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.519
with that code? What the church did they break? One

731
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.719
three for the day, five for the month, ninety one

732
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.159
seven for the year. You know. Matter of fact, I

733
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.480
have a little that's up with a with a teacher

734
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.599
from a college they studying UFO stuff. Because he won't know.

735
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.239
He said, no, this is a date. He said, no,

736
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.320
it's not a date. If it was a date, one

737
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:02.800
thirty for the day, five for the months, it's not

738
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.079
nine one seven it was if it was one nine seven,

739
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.639
there must be one nine one seven, not nine one seven.

740
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.280
There was one thousand years different. This is not a date.

741
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.199
This is a told you know.

742
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:15.599
Yeah.

743
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.320
And one day because I was the talk show on

744
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:24.119
TV another when the book came out and Fina called me.

745
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.119
I think she was I don't know what was MI

746
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.679
or Fina mod com or call. She called my call

747
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.840
and uh, we start talking and he said, well, I'll

748
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:39.239
be with my friend, the doctor Jukin Fernandez. Since nineteen

749
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.320
seventy seven studying Fatima. We've be in the archives of

750
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.840
Fatim and everything. And she had a lot of problems

751
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.519
with the government because they discovered more than its supposed

752
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:54.800
to be and uh, and well we'll be friends. And

753
00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.239
one day she said, look, uh, Antonio, uh, I have

754
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.079
this number for you, and explaining all the too what

755
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.840
else it's a code one three nine nine one seven

756
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.679
one three five nine one seven. Uh, maybe you can't

757
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:15.280
figure out something. I said, Okay, I'm gonna try. And

758
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.440
I got one plus three three plus five. I did

759
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:25.239
all the mats possible, you know, PI, the p number, everything, nothing,

760
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.119
And I will sit down in the living room one

761
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:34.519
day and I say, look everything, the temples, moments, its

762
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:40.760
relations with the sky. You know, they building for the gods.

763
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:46.760
If this thing it's a ufo with not a uh

764
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.360
sun before they said the sun dancing thirteen October. This

765
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:58.559
is this is another thing. And I has my ex wife.

766
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.360
Let's go google, and you've seen in the sky if

767
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.199
you have some star with one three five with that

768
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.400
code and we catch that we have a star with

769
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:15.159
that number where I said, look, but we must make

770
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:19.719
sure when they discover that if it was before nineteen seventy,

771
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.599
it was after, you know, and there was before eighteen

772
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:30.239
eighteen something, And I said, I need the more informations

773
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.880
for that style and that they were really surprised me.

774
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.719
I send a mail in Portugal, send the mail to

775
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:41.440
the NASA and assay and everything. They go give me

776
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:46.679
answer or just I just asked, if you have a

777
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.239
star with what information can give me less than twenty

778
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:55.320
four hours from the nest. I got three different males

779
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.800
from three different persons. I have that in the book

780
00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.960
called the Males. I have all that thing in the book.

781
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:00.960
Yeah, and.

782
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:07.880
Where I was figuring out this for for what happened

783
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.679
in that that year. There must be beans from this

784
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.599
is my conclusion. There must be beans from that style.

785
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.960
And they just give that code for one day somebody

786
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.840
or understand where they come from and this and you

787
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.440
know that they make sense because if like tonight, say

788
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:35.760
no to another planet and found, uh, found some civilization,

789
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.920
they must they can't say, look, we come that son

790
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.960
from that No, they must use the names from that planet,

791
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.760
for they understand where they come from, you know, and

792
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.880
the And it's funny because because that they come in

793
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:56.360
my mind went the real you know why all the

794
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:06.960
ancient civilizations have the same geometric constellations in the sky,

795
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:11.480
you know if they have these different names. But you know,

796
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:15.000
if if you tell somebody don't know nothing about the sky. Okay,

797
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.360
can you just drow orient constellations? I give it, I

798
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.320
help you. They have eight I don't know if they are,

799
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.400
but they have eight stars. I'm pretty sure they go

800
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:31.519
not draw the same constellation of what they're supposed to be.

801
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:35.559
You understand me, you know? And that thing is after

802
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.519
after that that, I start Look who tell? For who tell?

803
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:45.559
For the one ancient civilization and heard about out how

804
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.760
they see the sky, they must be tell for all

805
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.880
another one. There was too much concident in the Chinese

806
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.519
people write in the sky that's the same geometry constellation,

807
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:01.039
then like Mayas or Texas, doesn't make any I'm said,

808
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.960
if you have a contact before, do just that.

809
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.519
Right, So you said earlier you alluded to the fact

810
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:12.679
that this is multi generational too, right with your family,

811
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:18.280
and you had brought up your mother's side of the family.

812
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.559
But what about what about your children?

813
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:25.880
No, my daughter, my daughter two thousand I think it's

814
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:32.079
two thousand or twice. Let me see you. I don't know.

815
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:40.239
There must be two thousand twelve maybe let me yeah,

816
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:49.760
I just know that's twenty eighteen. This thing happened twenty eighteen.

817
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:57.199
Uh, my daughter, she was in the bed and she

818
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.679
wake up and she saw I had big shadow.

819
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.400
She said there must be two miters tall next to

820
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:09.199
the window. And she was real free. And after that

821
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.840
in the morning she has three marks, three doubles right

822
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:21.840
here the chap and uh. And she has some kind

823
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:29.079
of gifts, you know, like I don't want to say names.

824
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.400
But one day they told them for a couple of times,

825
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.880
you know that that people, she will be dyed pretty soon.

826
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.760
And of course everybody die, of course, but you know,

827
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.400
but we talked about three between three four days a

828
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.920
week and you know it's not that kind people. Okay,

829
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.719
she they say it's dire, there will be and she

830
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:59.119
has that you know, and uh what what One day

831
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.719
I was read with my sister and they come that

832
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:06.159
that person and uh, when we go when we go

833
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.840
back and drive, when I start driving that road where

834
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.920
I have the missing time for five minutes, and my

835
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.519
daughter turned to me and said, you know that I

836
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.599
never there see that person anymore. I said why and

837
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.320
that and that that that guy is about sixty five

838
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:29.360
sixty years old. Uh, And I said why, I just

839
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.639
know I never but she did that before for another people.

840
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.039
And we stop talking because I know something that will

841
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:41.360
be happen, you know. And this is Sunday, Tuesday. I

842
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.679
have another Auntle Mike call me four o'clock in the

843
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.960
morning and said, you know, this person died this tonight,

844
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:53.559
you know, I said another one. She and she doesn't

845
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.239
like to talk too much about that, even when I

846
00:55:56.280 --> 00:56:03.239
have a missing time with my daughter two and twenty

847
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:09.039
eighteen and if I know taught me. She just said, yeah, yeah,

848
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.599
that thing happened, but she doesn't want to talk too

849
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.840
much about about that. You know, it's not she she asked,

850
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:18.199
nineteen years old, you know, yeah, yeah, you know right.

851
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:24.960
So kind of getting to the point where we're wrapping

852
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.679
up a little bit. I know that you've asked the

853
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:34.360
question why me many times? So what do you believe

854
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.519
the answer is today? What what do you think is

855
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.039
going on about me? Yeah?

856
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:47.039
Yeah, I don't know. You know, for a long time

857
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:51.000
I was why me? Why the book? You know, because

858
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.960
the book is a normal book. It's not big deal.

859
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.039
It's just a book. And h and I want to

860
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:01.679
tell twenty eleven if not for that one ten one

861
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.800
thing happened about the book, and uh, I said, you know,

862
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.760
you know, I said, why, you know, I'm not the doctor.

863
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.239
I'm not you know, and uh I have the high school.

864
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.840
That's a and uh, I said, white men, the white

865
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:22.000
you know, just say and they're seeing the small village

866
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:26.280
less than one thousand forever they is pick up that guy,

867
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:32.280
you know. But after the time go and I started. No,

868
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.679
there was not just me and my family. It's almost

869
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.000
all my family. They have a clothes encounter, you know.

870
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.079
Uh maybe, well what I believe in they have in

871
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:47.119
the in the book too. This is I believe this

872
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.960
is about DNA, you know. And uh uh jen and uh,

873
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.800
this is what I believe in that there were for

874
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.079
now I'm studying another case, of course. And I there

875
00:57:58.159 --> 00:57:59.960
was not just my family. Have a lot of family

876
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.119
with thousand tons of them. They come and we know

877
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.320
that I know it's from my grandmother, but I believe

878
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.920
that they'll be styled before my grandmother. Yea, our mother.

879
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:19.519
And and and why because I'm like normal people like you,

880
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:23.000
like everybody, you know. Yeah right, it's a it's a

881
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:28.280
really just happened, you know. And I know they changed

882
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.199
my life every in every point, you know. And I

883
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.079
was the kid I go out with another friend. Now

884
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:40.920
I can say lose time, Uh be reading the Bible

885
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:45.760
and take the notes from the Bible. And we must

886
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.400
just imagine with eleven twelve years old you do that,

887
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:54.639
you know, and more it's for what. And the most

888
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.679
of the time I take stops from the Bible and

889
00:58:56.719 --> 00:59:01.079
from another ancient test even there's no what I'm doing.

890
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:04.639
I'm just take taking now when I'm reading, and I said, yeah,

891
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.480
this is the reason, this, this, this I understand. But

892
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.599
in that time not at all. You know, when I

893
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:14.880
want to talk about the my porsch in Portugue is

894
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:20.079
the book. It comes second October twenty ten, and I

895
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:23.119
have a special place I won't deal a lot of time,

896
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:28.400
so stuff's over there. It's a Dolmond it's a Celtic place,

897
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.840
you know. And one night and I said, okay, when

898
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:35.719
now the book comes two and go just nine days

899
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.320
after and that place I just got the bike. It's

900
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.239
real close my house. And this is the called Averda.

901
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.719
It's the city, the name a it's the capital of

902
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:52.559
state now but it's small, just maybe sixty five thousand people.

903
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.440
You know, we have one million apps, I'm sorry, ten

904
00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:00.239
million people in Portugal have not bign uh And I said, okay,

905
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:03.760
tonight I'm go that place with the book in Portuguese.

906
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:08.599
And I just arrived there with the bike. I just

907
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.480
go above off the dumb and just sit down and

908
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.920
just look at the sky, you know, uh. And I

909
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.159
just take the book and put the book in the

910
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:23.440
top next to me, and I look at the sky.

911
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:28.920
And this looks like nuts, but happened, uh, And I

912
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.639
I said, look it's done, you know. And all these

913
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.559
years the book is done. And now when they're doing

914
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:41.000
now and they don't take what they don't take a while.

915
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:45.920
And there was a real fast the answer. First I

916
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.039
feeling that something is in the there. I was just

917
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:53.559
not along anymore. And this is around eleven I think

918
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.679
ten nine. I think it's ten PM. I don't remember

919
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:02.760
test uh. And that moment something come in my mind.

920
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.679
Three things. And it's funny because two already happened. And

921
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:13.719
the first become a name of a guy. I know

922
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.360
the guy. And they said, doesn't make any sense. This

923
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.440
guy even doesn't believe in UFOs that you know, that

924
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:26.039
guy have his business is his life. This is twenty ten,

925
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.360
and this guy got divorced. I got divorced. You know

926
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:35.199
what's happened? After seven years I started date his ex wife,

927
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:40.079
you know, and you know that doesn't make too much sense.

928
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.920
But make me if you go think you know, why

929
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.760
that name come in my mind? I even never think

930
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.280
about one day they will be day that one the

931
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:55.800
second one they said, the book doesn't stay. They go

932
01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:01.400
touch in the four corners of the the wall, you know,

933
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:04.480
like a human being order thinking, oh, it must be

934
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.239
a best seller or something like that. But it was

935
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.239
not that. You know, now I understand, I do the

936
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:15.639
guest the podcast. It's true. Now they are touched in

937
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.280
the four corners of the world. You can in the internet,

938
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.960
whatever it is you are, you can see the podcast.

939
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.679
This is why they try told me, you know, but

940
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.960
like a human being, I think they was the best seller.

941
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.159
So not I don't care. But this, like I said,

942
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:35.000
I have the free book. It's not about money, about

943
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:38.840
nothing that. Uh. They come to number three. That doesn't

944
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:45.119
happen yet they said that that that forever is told

945
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:50.280
me and don't matter. One guy, a famous guy. It's

946
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:55.159
a singer. And I remember I said, it's total impossible

947
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:59.639
I met this guy and that master. Come again, I say, no,

948
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:03.000
one day you go met this guy until now I

949
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:07.280
don't met this guy yet yet not yet and that,

950
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.360
but I believe there will be even just say I

951
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:14.400
I and that's it and uh, and I say again,

952
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:16.920
now that's story impossible and that message coming in and

953
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:19.920
no one day you go met this, you guys go

954
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.079
be talking. Of course I don't know its be taught.

955
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:27.920
But this season must be about ufo uh and uh,

956
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.679
like I said, and I met and one one day

957
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:35.639
this singer the to Lisbon to make two concepts in Lisbon.

958
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.239
And then the newspaper come where the band is in

959
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.960
the hotel where they are. But of course it's like

960
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.480
they did not they don't go seeing that newspaper. But

961
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:49.000
I'm going to that place and me and my son,

962
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:53.800
my daughter and my ex wife we drive almost one

963
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:59.559
hundred miles just for that place, and we are almost there.

964
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:03.440
I have that in my mindset. Just return. It's not

965
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:08.360
time yet. The time is not yet. And I feel say,

966
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.039
I don't love saying my export my wife and at

967
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.639
that time was my wife. Just return after one hundred miles,

968
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.000
just okay, let's go back. I must go to the hotel. Well,

969
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.360
they say, and I'll go to that place with the

970
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.880
with the book for gift to him. The guy in

971
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.400
the hotel said no, no, no, we know they have

972
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:30.880
a concert here in b Lisbon, but they are not

973
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.800
here and that just come back. The funny thing is

974
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.320
the master I got it before I got to the hotel, like, no,

975
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:43.280
it's not time and the tree is until today there

976
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:48.840
was not time yet, got you, man?

977
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:59.119
So what what do you believe? The answer is? Today?

978
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.199
Like what do you think is? What do you think

979
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:08.719
that there's uh, what's the question if everything? Like because

980
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.280
everything you're telling me is true? Right? So in turn,

981
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:16.960
what is the one thing that humanity do you think

982
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:21.280
like completely misunderstands that maybe they're trying to tell us

983
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.599
or trying to tell you, like what's going on?

984
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:32.760
Well, of course they have thousand millions people like me.

985
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:39.039
They sell things, they have that informations all that, and

986
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.199
but for what I think right now, you know, like

987
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.800
the age of disclosure in the old government American government,

988
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:54.239
they try open Uh I don't. I don't think so

989
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:59.239
it's the right moment yet, you know, gotcha, I talk

990
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:03.639
we too, or they talk with people into about UFOs

991
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.559
and aliens is one thing they talk about. Other people

992
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:11.119
have it's own lives. It doesn't care about UFOs. But

993
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.480
and it's another thing. And then we have another thing

994
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:21.320
that the religion is really strong and like like you know,

995
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:25.760
even today, my mother still think there's the devil. It's

996
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.119
something you know, they happen that it doesn't. She doesn't

997
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:33.719
believe it's aliens even you know, and she saw so

998
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.760
many things happened with me, and and she still now.

999
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.559
I can't imagine people never saw nothing. How they go believing? Yeah,

1000
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.800
so yeah, it's yeah, it's it's through the It's okay,

1001
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:51.480
it's good talk. We have like podcasts like this. The governments, uh,

1002
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.800
start talking about that to open the mind. But if

1003
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:58.719
they don't do nothing, the death being there the dot

1004
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:03.639
for a while, you know, but because they can't do

1005
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:08.320
the same thing they did to me and another thousands people,

1006
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:14.639
uh start believers. You know they can't do that. But uh,

1007
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:18.440
I'll go, how go how do you go change all

1008
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.840
the human human kind? You know, to believe in that

1009
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:26.920
you know, this is realized, it's not just now. If

1010
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:31.159
you go ask, Okay, the American the American government and

1011
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:36.400
another governments, they have some shape the craft something like that.

1012
01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:39.440
He help all the people. They have a technology it's

1013
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.800
not there just there. You know, they have Another problem

1014
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.800
this guy's have is the technology that means give to

1015
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:51.239
let's go see say on nine state. You know, the

1016
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.679
government there was not just about planes. They don't give

1017
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.440
another information special about you know, the ill care. You know,

1018
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.079
and they have the medicine. Now how you go answer

1019
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.760
that government answers to the people and they go ask, okay,

1020
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:14.280
you guys have medicine, they can cure the cancer. Lest

1021
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:18.960
nineteen forty seven when the crash in Roosevelt. Hey, I

1022
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.159
have family, I have friends, they die with the cancer.

1023
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.840
Why you guys never did that? This is a problem,

1024
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.800
you know, they have a I don't know. We be prepared,

1025
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:33.800
we have all you do. We have cartoons for the kids,

1026
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:38.560
you know, and we go be slow, prepare the people.

1027
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:38.560
You know.

1028
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:44.319
And but it's I think it's a little except they

1029
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:50.880
have something we don't know, real for a big, big surprise.

1030
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.920
But I don't think so they can. Matter of fact,

1031
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:57.600
I think they even can control, you know, because that

1032
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:01.319
means so ahead of the time. I don't think so

1033
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:04.720
the even any country in the world have control one

1034
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:09.319
percent of that things, you know. But it's good, you know,

1035
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:14.680
uh talking talking about that stuff for people open his mind.

1036
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:19.319
But you know, if somebody listening to us but not

1037
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.079
interest about that it just listen, say okay, just turn

1038
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:26.560
off and go to my life. Because so the UFO

1039
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.800
what I can do? So you have for you know, absolutely,

1040
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.479
But of course it's two to different than nineteen seventies.

1041
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.199
And it is when I saw the things that they

1042
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:37.960
were real. They're real stuff.

1043
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:38.319
You know.

1044
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:41.359
When I remember me and my friend we start talk

1045
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:44.199
about that lights and the people smile left and make

1046
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:47.319
funny with us, and we decided, okay, we're start. We

1047
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.199
don't say anything anymore, you know. Matter of fact, he

1048
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:54.720
even does not say UFO the world. You know, Uh,

1049
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:55.960
it's really.

1050
01:09:55.560 --> 01:10:02.279
Hard, you know, Yeah, for sure, man, what a story.

1051
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:06.640
I want to encourage everybody to read your book, though,

1052
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.800
so tell people where they can find it again.

1053
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.079
You can find Amazon or my Instagram. You can't take

1054
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:15.800
the free book this today.

1055
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.800
Yeah, yeah, I'll make sure I put the show those

1056
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:21.520
links in the show notes.

1057
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:27.640
So just because what I feel is I got all

1058
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:32.119
that information free. Why go ask for money for other

1059
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:36.520
people for read the book? You know, doesn't doesn't make

1060
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:39.279
any sense, you know, And I was always against the

1061
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:44.920
church sell bibles. No, the Bible is a it's a

1062
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:47.680
word from the God. It's supposed to be free. You know,

1063
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:51.439
you're not for sell. Yeah, but this is what I think.

1064
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:56.960
You know, well, I I really appreciate you coming on.

1065
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:58.279
Thank you me too.

1066
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.479
And as soon as as soon as this is ready

1067
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:03.880
to publish, I will let you know.

1068
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:06.039
Okay, okay, thank you.

1069
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:11.359
I really appreciate you coming on, and we will uh

1070
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:12.279
touch some.

1071
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:17.359
People that that I think, you know when when I

1072
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:22.520
ask why me, but I understand too, I have some

1073
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.199
mission and that this is I think all the contact

1074
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.800
is and adoptees adoption, it's have that mission. It's tell

1075
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:33.520
the people you know they are here. They do this

1076
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.359
doesn't matter. I was at one day and talk show

1077
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.960
in portow and I was four times and one day

1078
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:47.319
you know, even the host they make funny to us

1079
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:53.039
our stories. Uh and uh if we know when we

1080
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:58.520
go to this this kind shows. I know everybody's look

1081
01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:03.600
at us. They came this guy lie or another toy

1082
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:07.359
or something like this another Uh, and we know that.

1083
01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:11.560
And when the host doesn't help too much make funny too.

1084
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:15.439
There was really art, you know, and the but we

1085
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:17.640
must do it and I have feelings I must do

1086
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:20.319
it doesn't matter if you if they believe or not

1087
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.199
my story. When when I tell my story, I don't

1088
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.880
know if I don't care if you believe or another

1089
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.920
one beliona. I just tell what I saw, what things

1090
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.800
happen with my life. And one thing is true. I

1091
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:38.800
don't ask anything. This this start with me, and because

1092
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:44.119
that I change lives of my family because and some

1093
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:49.319
girlfriend that even married. You know. But this I'm keeping

1094
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:50.680
doing and tell you.

1095
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.079
All right, appreciate it and we'll talk soon.

1096
01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.279
Okay, thank you, thank.

1097
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:05.279
You, mm hmmmm.

1098
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:17.760
Mm hmmm.

1099
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:20.640
You know.

1100
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:26.159
Veal is worthy old Belgium with an ant false ofp those.

1101
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.880
The boy walked past the old to think.

1102
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:33.520
When he was alone.

1103
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:43.079
No cityize, snow warning soon, no thunder India, just the

1104
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:51.279
fire above the branches like her that opened, and the

1105
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:59.359
dogs went quiet, and the stars else still. Something called

1106
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:01.239
him from the dark.

1107
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.680
Something bad is weird?

1108
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:11.399
Life of theology.

1109
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:19.680
Or inspire in the sky, whispers some the lord asking

1110
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:25.439
man to one the world? Are the gods of civilization?

1111
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:28.640
From the sky beyond the.

1112
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:33.279
Sea somewhere over a Portugo.

1113
01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:34.960
Left mark on.

1114
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:45.920
He heard the voices in the south, felt shaking in

1115
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.840
his bone, dreams, came walking into the.

1116
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:56.760
Day, turn the strangers into om a black card on

1117
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:03.319
a country rope, A pale man undressed in shape, talking

1118
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.720
pyramids and bloodlines before.

1119
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:08.359
The sudden name.

1120
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:13.079
From the road, lost time.

1121
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.479
And the clock's transplain.

1122
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:23.840
Once you'll behind the way, you never come back to side,

1123
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:34.000
never like so the olive or inspire in the side.

1124
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:36.880
Whispers from not the world.

1125
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:44.520
Ask your man to wonder, why are they gods or sivilization?

1126
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:50.000
From the star beyond the sea, some way.

1127
01:15:49.920 --> 01:16:00.119
Over four to go left to mark on me.

1128
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:13.359
So Tima keeps her seeking.

1129
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:19.920
The old stones knew the call, the children saw the

1130
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:24.319
heavens move to explained it all.

1131
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:27.680
Was it angel? Was it warning?

1132
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:30.159
Was it flesh?

1133
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:31.720
Or was it flame?

1134
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:34.439
When the ancient wants.

1135
01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:42.279
Come calling, every god receieves and name. There were lights

1136
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:49.199
over the olive trees, orange fire in the sky, a

1137
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:55.319
message buried in the sun, still waiting for the bar.

1138
01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:59.359
The gods of civilizations?

1139
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:01.640
Are they shadows?

1140
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:02.680
Are they key.

1141
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:10.199
Somewhere of but par do girls still above the oldest teas?

1142
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:13.399
Mm hmmm.

1143
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.960
And if you hear the calling, do.

1144
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:25.199
Not laugh and turn away.

1145
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:28.199
Some men are chosen.

1146
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.840
By the knight to speak good. This fear to say

1147
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:35.760
Mm hmmm,