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You ever hear a story so wild that it makes
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you stop mid bite of your steak and just think
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one of those tales that sounds like some frontier tall tale.
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But the deeper you dig, the more you start to wonder,
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what if? What if this isn't just some fever dream
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of old men telling stories around a fire. What if
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there's truth in it? Now, if you've been around the
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cryptid world long enough, you know that nearly every Native
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American tribe in North America has some variation of a
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Sasquatch legend. Some see them as watchers, forest spirits, ancient guardians.
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Others they see them as something much worse. The Choctaw
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they had a word for them, shampe. And they didn't
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just whisper about them in hushed voices. They went to
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war with them. Yeah you heard that right.
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War.
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Today we're diving into the actual accounts of Choctaw people
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battling these massive, hairy manlike creatures in the thick, swampy
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forests of what's now Mississippi and Louisiana. No blurry trailcam photos,
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no questionable YouTube videos of dudes running around in guerrilla suits.
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This is something else, entirely we'll break this one down
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into three sections. First, the legends, what the Choctaw people
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actually said about these beings, how they described them, and
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why they considered them an enemy, not just some nuisance
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lurking in the trees. Second, we'll look at whether there's
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any actual evidence to support this archaeological finds, oral history,
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and cryptid research that might back up these war stories.
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And last we'll go deep into the rabbit hole the
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idea that these creatures weren't just flesh and blood. Could
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they have been something more, something darker. So buck, because
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today we're going full tilt into the wilderness of history,
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myth and the things that don't like to stay in
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the past. Now, before we get started, take a second
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to like, subscribe and share this episode. The more we
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dig into these stories, the more people need to hear them.
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All Right, let's talk about the war no history book
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ever told you about. So here we are. We've walked
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through the legends, sifted through the evidence, and cracked open
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the bigger question, the one no one really wants to
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ask out loud. What really happened in those deep ancient forests.
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Were the Choctaw fighting off some undiscovered species A relic
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of an older time, some massive predator that got pushed
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to the edge of extinction. Or were they up against
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something more sinister, something that didn't just lurk in the trees,
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but in the space between. I don't know about you,
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but the more I dig into this, the more I
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start to feel like this story isn't finished. That whatever
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the Shampoo were are, they didn't just vanish. They moved,
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They adapted, They learned how to stay hidden, just enough
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to keep the skeptics comfortable, but still close enough to
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remind those who are willing to listen that they're still
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out there. And if the Choctaw were willing to fight them,
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to hunt them down at the risk of losing their
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own warriors, that tells me something important. They weren't just afraid.
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They saw these things as a threat, and maybe, just
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maybe they were right. If you enjoyed this episode of
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Broadcasting Seeds, make sure to like, share, and review the podcast.
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The more we talk about this stuff, the harder it
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becomes for the truth to stay buried. If you've got thoughts, theories,
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or even your own stories, I want to hear them,
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reach out, because this conversation it's far from over. Until
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next time. Keep your eyes on the trees, and if
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you hear something moving out there in the dark, maybe,
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just maybe you should listen. All right, so let's set
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the stage. It's somewhere in the deep forests of what
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we now call Mississippi maybe Louisiana, thick swampy air, the
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sound of insects buzzing so loud it feels like the
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trees are alive, and somewhere out there, past the tree line,
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something else is moving. The Choctaw people knew these forests
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like the backs of their hands. They were warriors, skilled hunters,
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and survivors in an unforgiving land. But despite all that,
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there was something that shook even them to their core.
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The Champy. Now, if you're expecting your typical oh it's
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just a big, smelly forest dweller that keeps to itself,
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kind of Bigfoot legend, you're in for a surprise. The
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Choctaw didn't just see these creatures as elusive cryptids or
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misunderstood beasts. No, these things were monsters. What were the Shampa?
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The Champay weren't just lurking in the woods, minding their business,
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munching on berries or whatever people think Bigfoot does. No.
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They were raiders, predators, nighttime terrors that would sneak into
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Choctaw villages under the cover of darkness. And what did
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they want? Food? Sure, livestock sometimes, But according to legend,
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they weren't just stealing from the Choctaw. They were taking people, women, children,
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warriors who wandered too far from the fire at night.
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Some were never seen again. Others came back changed, if
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they came back at all, and that that was a line.
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The Choctaw weren't about to let these things cross. The
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war begins. So here's where things get even crazier. The
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Choctaw weren't just hiding in their huts praying these things
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would go away. They fought back. Tribal leaders organized hunting parties,
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not for deer, not for enemy warriors, but for champay.
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Now imagine this, skilled warriors painted for battle, armed with bows, spears,
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and clubs, tracking these massive, hairy creatures into the deepest
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parts of the wilderness. The stories say that these battles
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weren't just quick skirmishes either. The Champagne fought back. They
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were stronger, faster, and had an almost supernatural ability to
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disappear into the trees. Some Choctaw war bands never returned
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from these hunts, and the ones who did, they brought
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back stories of eyes glowing in the dark, of things
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that shouldn't be able to move that fast, of inhuman
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screams that echoed through the woods for hours after the
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fight was over. The turning point, the legends say that
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after years of bloodshed, the Choctaw finally pushed the Champay back,
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drove them deep into the swamps, into the hills where
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few dared to go. Some say they killed them off entirely.
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Others they say, the Champey are still out there waiting, watching.
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And here's the kicker. These weren't just isolated stories from
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one or two tribes. Other Native American nations across the
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country have eerily similar legends. The Cherokee had their own
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battles with the stone giants. The Iroquois feared the Genosqua,
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a giant, rock skinned being that would smash its victims
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into the ground. So what does that tell us Either
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this was one of the most widespread and persistent campfire
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stories of all time, or maybe just maybe there's something
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out there in the woods that doesn't want us to
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know It exists, all right, So we've got the legends,
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stories passed down through generations, epic battles between man and
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something other. But legends are just that, right, stories. Well
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maybe not, because as much as history likes to sweep
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this kind of thing under the rug, there are physical
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clues evidence that suggests the Choctaw War with Pigfoot wasn't
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just a myth, but something that left an actual footprint
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in history. Strange remains and unusual skeletons, you don't have
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to dig too deep into old reports to start seeing
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a pattern. Literally, in the late eighteen hundreds and early
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nineteen hundreds, newspapers and archaeological reports began surfacing about giant
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skeletons being discovered in burial mounds across the Mississippi River Valley.
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And we're not talking about tall guys who drank too
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much milk. We're talking eight, nine, even ten foot tall
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skeletal remains with oddly shaped skulls, massive jawbones, and in
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some cases, double rows of teeth, a trait commonly associated
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with many Native American myths about ancient giants. Now here's
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where things get weird. Every time these finds made the news.
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Every time some farmers stumbled on a skeleton that should
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not exist. The remains would mysteriously disappear, shipped off to
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the Smithsonian or some private collection, never to be seen again.
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Sound familiar. The Smithsonian itself even admitted decades later that
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in the early nineteen hundreds there was a movement to
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suppress or outright destroy evidence that didn't fit the mainstream
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historical narrative, meaning that if the Choctaw actually did battle
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a race of large humanoid creatures, the physical proof of
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that fight may have been quietly erased from history. Oral
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histories as a form of truth. Now skeptics will say, oh,
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come on, these are just stories people exaggerate. But here's
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the thing about Native American oral traditions. They don't work
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like European fairy tales or campfire stories. In most tribes,
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oral history was a sacred ast scripture. Elders passed it
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down precisely, ensuring that details were preserved for generations. The
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Choctaw weren't making up bedtime stories to scare their kids.
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These were worn a historical record of something their people
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actually encountered. And if that's the case, then it means
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the champ who were more than just cryptid folklore. They
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were a real threat that needed to be fought back
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modern Bigfoot sightings and Choctaw territory. Now fast forward to today.
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You might think, Okay, even if there was something out there,
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wouldn't they be long gone? Not so fast. Mississippi and
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Louisiana still rank among the top states for modern bigfoot sightings.
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And we're not talking about some guy who had one
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too many beers in the woods and mistook a bear
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for something Spooky. Hunters, hikers, entire families, people who have
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nothing to gain from making this stuff up. They report
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seeing the same things the Choctaw described centuries ago, massive
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hair covered figures, glowing eyes in the dark, guttural screams
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that don't match any known animal. And here's the clincher.
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Many of these sightings happened right near old Native American
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mound sites, the same locations where these supposed battles took place.
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So what does that mean? Either Bigfoot is just a
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really good hider, or whatever really happened between the Choctaw
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and the Champagne centuries ago never actually ended. All right,
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So we've covered the legends, the battles, and even the
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eerie evidence that suggests something real went down between the
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Choctaw and these massive creatures. But here's where things take
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a hard left turn into the truly strange, because if
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we're being honest, the idea of Bigfoot as just an
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undiscovered primate, some kind of lost evolutionary offshoot, doesn't fully
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explain the weirdness that surrounds these encounters, and that weirdness
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it's everywhere the problem with the just a animal theory.
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Let's assume for a second that Bigfoot is just some large,
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flesh and blood undiscovered primate, a North American cousin of
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the orangutan or gorilla. That would make sense, right. Big
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animals hide all the time. Look at mountain lions. You
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can live your whole life in Cougar Country and never
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see one. But there's a problem, actually a few problems.
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No bones, no bodies, no roadkill. If these things are
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just animals, where are the dead ones? Why has no
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one stumbled on a decomposed sasquatch carcass in the woods?
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Trackers can't track them? Native American hunters and modern day
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survivalists alike have reported that when tracking a sasquatch, the
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footprints just stop as if the creature just disappeared into
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thin air. They mess with electronics. Some of the most
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credible Bigfoot researchers say that when they enter an area
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of known sasquatch activity, their cameras, drones, and GPS devices
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start acting up. Batteries, drain signals go haywire. That's not
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normal for just some big, dumb ape. Now here's where
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things get even stranger, the paranormal connection. Many tribes, including
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the Choctaw, didn't just see these creatures as animals. They
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saw them as spirits, as entities that could shift between worlds,
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vanish when needed, and move in ways that defied the
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laws of nature. Sound crazy, maybe, but then you start
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hearing the stories hunters claiming to shoot at Bigfoot only
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for the bullets to pass through like they were hitting nothing,
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witnesses describing a sudden shift in the air, static like
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before a lightning strike, right before a sasquatch appears. Some
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researchers even claim that these beings can cloak, blending into
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their surroundings like something out of science fiction. And then
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there's the one that really makes people uncomfortable, the UFO connection. Yeah,
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I said it. There are a staggering number of reports,
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both modern and ancient, of Bigfoot being seen right after
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strange lights in the sky. Even old tribal legends describe
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the Champagne as coming from above, descending into the forest,
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as if they weren't just from this world but another. Now,
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I'm not saying Sasquatch is an alien, but I am
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saying that something about them doesn't fit neatly into the
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big undiscovered monkey box spiritual warfare and the ancient battle
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still happening. If you've been listening to broadcasting seeds for
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a while, you know that I don't think all of
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this stuff is just random. There's a pattern, and that
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pattern it starts looking a lot less like cryptozoology and
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a lot more like spiritual warfare. What if the Choctaw
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weren't just fighting flesh and blood enemies. What if they
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were battling something darker, something that wasn't just a natural predator,
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but a force that fed on fear, chaos, and destruction.
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Think about it. Why do so many of these stories
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talk about the champag taking women and children. Why do
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so many cultures associate Sasquatch like creatures with abductions, with
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shape shifting, with supernatural power. What if this isn't about
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biological survival, something older, a war between humanity and whatever
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lurks in the shadows, one that's been going on since
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the beginning. And if that's true, then maybe the Choctaw
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never won the war. Maybe they just fought hard enough
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to push the enemy back.
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For now.
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I got bad thoughts that make my mind scared, hold
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me hostage, and they don't fight fair. Who don't pray
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for me? And white brought my tests? Who're gonna save me?
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If you're not right here? Move this darkness and make
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my sight clear, take me your way, because I don't
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like you.
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Ghost of my past.
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They feel in the night. Yeah, wake me up and