June 20, 2026

Giant Alaskan Bigfoot and Dark Auras with Bennett Tanton| Lets Get Freaky Podcast EP: 394

Giant Alaskan Bigfoot and Dark Auras with Bennett Tanton| Lets Get Freaky Podcast EP: 394
Giant Alaskan Bigfoot and Dark Auras with Bennett Tanton| Lets Get Freaky Podcast EP: 394
The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast
Giant Alaskan Bigfoot and Dark Auras with Bennett Tanton| Lets Get Freaky Podcast EP: 394
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In this captivating episode, we sit down with Bennett Tanton, host of The Broadcasting Seeds Podcast—a show that fearlessly explores controversial, mind-expanding topics on the edges of the unexplained, from spiritual warfare and hidden history to cryptids, the supernatural, and the unseen forces shaping our world.

Bennett shares his own extraordinary paranormal journey, including encounters that were simply “too big” to ignore. He recounts a chilling experience with a giant Bigfoot in the wilds of Alaska, part of a series of high-strangeness events that have marked his path. We dive deep into his near death experience that gave him the sudden ability to read auras, which has transformed how he perceives people and the energies around them.

Drawing from his background working with top government officials, Bennett opens up about observing dark auras surrounding certain key figures—and how this gift has sharpened his ability to detect hidden intentions, spot people carrying dark shadows, and navigate the unseen battles in everyday life and positions of power.

From military service as a former Reconnaissance Marine and US Army Infantryman to his work as a researcher, podcaster, and author investigating faith, mystery, and the roots of civilization, Bennett brings a grounded yet open perspective to these extraordinary experiences.

Whether you’re into Bigfoot lore, aura reading, spiritual discernment, or government-adjacent high strangeness, this conversation blends the personal, the profound, and the paradigm-shifting. Tune in for stories that challenge what you think you know about the world around (and beyond) us.


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Somebody's in your room. You can't move, you can't speak.

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It's a horrible, horrible feeling.

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You know, you're looking out into the darkness, and then

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you see a figure, but it's darker than the darknroom.

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I just get this like really creepy feeling, and I

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see this, uh, this like shadowy, deemon looking figure in

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the front seat of dard.

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She used to come into my room at night and

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stand right by my bed, and I just was petrified.

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I remember I saw something fly by my bedroom window.

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We heard the bathroom door shut, so then we looked

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at me out my bedroom window down the hallway in

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the bathroom door was wide opening.

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So we came around the bed and we saw eyeshine,

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this thing stood up.

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I mean it stood up and.

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It had high pointed errors. It had us now have

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a long arm. It just to grab the deer.

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Okay, guys, welcome back to the Let's Get Freaky podcast.

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If you have a paranormal or a wild experience you'd

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like to share on the show, we'd love to hear

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your story, so please get in touch email Let's Get

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Freaky Podcasts at mail dot com, or you can reach

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us on social media. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok x, YouTube, There

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is so many different ways to get a hold of us.

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Send us a message. We'd love to have you on

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the show. Okay, guys, we have got a fantastic guest

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on the show tonight. Let's welcome to Let's get freaky

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Bennett Tennant. I've missed your name up, I've not done

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that for ages. Start again. Take two so good before

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we started, right, you can back me up.

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Yeah, you did it. You said it perfectly, and you

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were like, yes, yes.

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Yes, I'm so happy.

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Thank you so much for having me on. Man, it's

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a pleasure. It's my pleasure. My name is Bennett Tanton.

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That's what I said.

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I am the host of Broadcasting Seeds, which is a

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podcast where I explored the strange, the hidden, the spiritual,

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and the unexplained. Not too different than this podcast. Yeah.

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Absolutely. The topics you get into are the topics we

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get into. And it's fantastic.

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Man.

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Anyone that's not listened yet, they need to check your

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show out. It's very interesting and he's very regular as well.

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You put a lot of contact.

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Yeah, I throw all kinds of stuff at the wall

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and see what things. Yeah.

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Absolutely it's great, man.

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I love it.

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I absolutely love it. So I like to go to

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the start of people's journeys. I like to know what

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kind of set you on this path of these topics

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that we like to get into. Where did it all

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begin for you?

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Well, so for me, my background is a little different

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than most people. And I'll say in our space, in

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this space, right, I'm a for former reconnaissance marine in

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the United States Marine Corps, and then I transitioned from there.

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I was a deputy sheriff for a while, not built

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to be a cop, just saying. Then I went into

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the army, wow, And I was an infantryman in the

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Army for about six years through nine to eleven, the

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whole deal. I decided to get out, and I've spent

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years working in security and emergency management, anti terrorism, and

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then as like a mental health worker as well, helping

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veterans deal with the you know, horrors of twenty years

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of war right that US in America especially well, and

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you guys in the UK as well, we're part of

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a lot of that. So that background is shaped the

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way that I look at the world, and I tend

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to look for patterns, ask uncomfortable questions and pay attention

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to things most people frankly would rather ignore, right. So

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with broadcasting Seeds, I dive into places where, you know,

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cryptids and conspiracies and government secrecy, all all that stuff.

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I've covered everything from Bigfoot to you know, American folklore

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right and everything in between. And for me, it's not

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just about creepy stories. It's about asking what's really going

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on beneath the surface. And I started down the podcast game.

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I've been doing this twelve years, so twenty fourteen, I

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started my first podcast, and it's kind of been off

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to the racist. It wasn't just about this, It was

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like entrepreneurship and some wacky stuff. But this podcast started

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almost two years ago, right, a little bit over two

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years ago, but my first air date was June nineteenth

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of twenty three, twenty four, twenty four So I've always

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been into this weird stuff since I was a kid.

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I had my first I guess you would call paranormal

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experience when I was like seven, and my mother and

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I saw apparitions together at the same time at the

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end of her bed one night, and from that point on,

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I was just kind of like hooked and I was

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it morphed from there to bigfoot lockedness. And you know,

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I'm fifty two years old, so back in the eighties

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there wasn't a whole lot of this stuff. But I

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was always big into Norse mythology and stuff like that, right, So,

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and I grew up in Illinois here in the US

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and lots of Indian lore, lots of stuff like that.

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And then around eleven, I had my first encounter with Bigfoot.

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Whoa Okay, So.

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That blew the.

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Doors off of me in you know, believing in this

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stuff because it was a it was a class A

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siding and it was me and three other kids, two

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other boys, sorry, and we basically came face to face

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with like an eight foot sasquatch and uh, just one

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of the scary I get goosebumps every time I think

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about it. So one of the scariest experiences of my life,

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you know. Wow. And uh, and so that has kind

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of shaped the way that I that I you know,

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I always from that point on it was like there's

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there's almost nothing that you could tell me that I

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would be like, oh, no, no way, no way, or whatever. So,

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so yeah, that's what started me down the path. I

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had another bigfoot experience when I was eighteen in a

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lasca that was crazy too, almost identical to the first one,

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but it was in just a different spot and the

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sasquatch was bigger. So when they say sascatches in Alaska,

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a big dude. Wow, it was like a nine footer.

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It is humongous, just huge.

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How big that is? That is? That is massive. I

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had a friend that was six for six and he

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was huge, even to me. He was a giant. He

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was so big. So I can't imagine seeing something it's it's.

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Just and it is terrifying. I mean it's not it's terrifying,

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but yet not terrifying. At the same time. It was weird,

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like I was. I was as much scared. I was

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as much intrigued as I was scared, Like, seriously, this

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is happening right now. Like so, I've had other encounters,

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not like those, not face to face, but all kinds

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of stuff, everything from throwing rocks to finding footprints to

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knocks and communications whoops, and all kinds of stuff. So,

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you know, and I actively do a lot of bigfoot

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research as well.

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So I would love to hear in a lot of

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detail your experiences. If you don't mind. But before we

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get into that, can I go back to when you

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was a kid and you saw entities at the bottom

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of your bed.

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We've Yeah, So my dad traveled a lot for work,

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and this was like nineteen eighty, right, and we lived

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in this old farmhouse and at that time it was

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one hundred and four years old, so this is you

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know what, forty years ago, and it was it was

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one hundred and four then, right, So and this isn't

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a little town in Illinois called Princeton, Illinois, which is

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literally in the middle of nowhere. It's it's got about

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seven thousand and seventy five hundred people at that time,

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and it's the largest town in that county, so you

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can it's small. But my dad was out of town

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and my parents had this big, king size bed and

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it was just it was a it was a dark

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and stormy night and it literally was it in Illinois,

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you get this. This is farm country, right, so you

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get these thunderstorms that just roll across and they it

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literally sounds like bowling, like you're in a bowling alley

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trying to sleep because it's like the the bowling or

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the ball rolling down the lane and then crashing into

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the pins and it's that lot. It's just so loud.

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So I was like, you know what, I'm going into

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bed with mom. And so I got into bed with her,

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and I remember a real heavy couple successive thunderclaps, and

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I woke up and I just was like looking and

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I literally remember taking my right hand and going like

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this through my eye, like am I seeing what I'm

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really seeing? And there were three entities at the end

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of the bed and you could tell, like I could

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tell one of them was a girl just because she

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had like a nightgown on, but they were all like

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I got the impression they were children looking back now,

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and they were three different heights. The one in the

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middle was a little shorter than the other two on

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the outside. The reason I know my mom saw it too.

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We talked about it, but she screamed, and then when

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she screamed, I put my head under the covers, you know,

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and then probably it was probably thirty seconds, but it

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felt like an hour, and I finally took the covers off,

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and yeah, man, that was like that was the deal.

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And I never I got I did have that feeling

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the whole time that we lived there. I mean I

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lived there till I was ten. Yeah, so I never

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had any more like direct encounters like that, but I

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do remember always there's times when in certain rooms I'd

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feel like something was watching me. So I got that feeling,

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and then I would get out of the corner of

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my eye, I would get like, not like shadow people.

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It was more like Frankly, i'd say it was like

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a like a dog almost, because it was low to

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the ground and it would it was like out of

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the corner of your eye, would you would catch movement? Right,

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I remember that a few times and going what the heck?

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You know? But it was an old farm, is what

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it was. And then the rest of the town, not

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the rest of the town, but the rest of that

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neighborhood built up around it because there was we had

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an old barn that was like an original barn with

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the house in the backyard. We had like it's probably

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an acre and a half, so a decent sized plot

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of land. Yeah, that was that was the first experience

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that I remember having. Wow.

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And when were they like, were they like shadow figures

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or could you see like colorization in these No?

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I couldn't because they were backlit. But I could, Like

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I said, I could see like kind of like a

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like a trans It was like I could see the

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one girl it was. And I'm pretty sure it was

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a girl because it was like she was wearing a dress,

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and it's like I could see through the dress. Does

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that make sense? Like on the sides when it got

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when the lightning flashed and it was backlit. Could never

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see any identifying features or anything, no eyes, no mouth

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or anything like that. I could definitely tell that that

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the one closest to me was wearing a dress, for sure.

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And did your mother, did you guys talk about it

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as it happened or did you kind of leave it?

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No, this was like the next morning, like later that day,

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and then we've talked about it multiple times throughout my

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life and we saw the same thing, and you know,

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that's kind of it. And I've never really dug into

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maybe what it was or who it could have been,

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or the fact that they were standing at the end

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of the bed was curious, right, But I never and

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I've thought about looking into it. I just had never, Man,

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I do. I have so much other stuff, so it's

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like I just don't. I just haven't thought about it,

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haven't gotten there.

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Yeah, it's interesting though, when when two people see the

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same thing. We know, when we have a paranormal experience

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and we know we're seeing something out the ordinary, you know,

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we know that in ourselves. But it's kind of undeniable.

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When two of you have had the same experience and

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you've both seen it, you know, and it's your mother

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you trust, and you're both in that moment together, it's

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pretty much it's undeniable when that happens.

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Undeniable at that point, at least for me it was,

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and for her too. She's she's actually had and I

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can't remember him off the top of my head, but

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she's had a couple. She had a couple paranormal experiences

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when she was younger as well, and she may have

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had I'll ask actually till the next time we talk.

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I'll let you know, let me write it down other

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experiences in that house. So I think she has.

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Interesting I have to get her on the podcast man

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as well.

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Experiences.

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So that must have affected you massively as a kid,

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because I had a similar kind of experience when I

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was a kid. I woke up and saw something. It

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kind of changes you. It kind of we always when

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we're kids were open to this stuff anyway, but when

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you have an undeniable experience like that, it kind of

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opens you up to this spiritual world that we live in.

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And as you said with the big Foot stuff, it

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kind of once you have that experience, there's no going back.

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You know. It did, and it totally has changed my

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worldview of everything. Like I've been open, like I I

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got the the supernatural side of the Bible early, like

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because I was like, if this stuff can It was

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one of those things. And my dad was a was

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a pastor, not you know, he had I say he

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was a pastor, but not exactly. He had his degree

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in theology. He had a dual degree dangerous psychology and theology.

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So he uh so I would have conversations with him

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and he would explain things kind of like that. It

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wasn't like it. It was more like a some people think,

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you know. And it was definitely once I got a

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little older and started reading myself, it was definitely like

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the Michael Heiser type worldview, the deuterotomy thirty two saw

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eighty two Genesis six that I dropped right into that

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fast and that way of thinking. I mean, you can't

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there's no it's no old barred, no holds barred at

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that point in my opinion, like you you have to

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you either believe it all or you just don't believe it, right.

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Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. So did you have any other experiences

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A lot that with entities? Have you seen any of a.

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Not not like that?

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Man?

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Now, I've had some some definite weird experience. Like I

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spent a lot of time in the Old World, man,

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and there's like some different there's different things in different places, right,

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Like there's just different energies and frankly entities. I mean,

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I spent a year in Egypt, and that's a whole

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other animal. And I spent a year in Eastern Europe

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and Bosnia and some other places, and and some of

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those it's just so much older than the US, right,

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Like I'm walking around at one point, there's this there's

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a spot in Bosnia where there's a castle that we

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were walking around in. It's dilapidated and you know, semi

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falling down, but we're walking around in it. And it

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was built in eleven eleven hundred in the in the

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you know, in the tenth century or the twelfth century.

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You know, like what the hell like it. It's wild.

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So I haven't had any direct entity stuff that I

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can say, Oh yeah, I had a other than Bigfoot. Yeah,

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but other than that, paranormal wise, other than just get

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So let me preface this a little bit. I'm not

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like a medium. I don't. I can't like communicate, I

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don't see dead people, nothing like that. But I definitely

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sensitive to the veil, okay, and things beyond it. The

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reason I say so, I I I don't. I didn't

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have an nd in the like, oh, I walked with

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Jesus in the garden or in heaven and saw the

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light and the whole thing. Right, But I did drown

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when I was eighteen so in open ocean, and one

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of my buddies saved me. And then from that point on,

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I can see auras around people. Interesting. Yeah, so people

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would say it's anesthesia or something like that, but I'm

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telling you, it's it's there. It's people's energy, it's people's aura,

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it's there, whatever you want to call it. And it's color.

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Sometimes it's colorful, sometimes it's not. It's but it's more.

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Sometimes it's textured, sometimes it's not, you know what I mean. Like,

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there's some things interesting with it. And so with that,

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I can walk into a place and tell you if

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something's there or not with pretty good accuracy. Wait, when

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you say something that is a time, whether it's whether

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it's it's you know, a ghost or a but I

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can't tell you what it is. I can't like discern,

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but I can tell you, well, I do discern, and

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I can sure as he'll tell you if it's evil

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or not interesting.

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Okay, right, so you don't have to see that on

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someone else. You can just feel that.

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There's and I can feel that the Yeah, I can

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feel it. I can feel the energy in a place right,

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you know, and it's usually a weight. So I you know,

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this has helped me a lot with So I was,

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like I said in the intro, I used to help veterans.

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I worked for the Veterans Administration here, but I used

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to do And see, this is one of those things

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where it's a slippery slope because I'm telling you I

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help people move things through their body, Like I'm able

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to help folks and it's not me doing the healing.

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It's helping them like unblock things, right, because I can

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see blockages in people and people would be like oh,

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that's reiki, right, and it's but it's not so the

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way that I can I say, I guess, for lack

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of a better term, it's reiki, but I would coin

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it more as like spiritual healing, like because I am

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I'm asking the Holy Spirit to help me do this,

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not some I'm not drying symbols in my mind. I'm

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not doing that. I'm literally pulling what would be energy

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from the from the the ether or from the the environment. Right, Yeah, yeah,

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that's how it feels. Interesting.

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So is the people that have possibly got like attachments

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and things like that?

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Is that well, I can tell you No, I don't.

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I don't know. That's a good question though, But so

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it's what I've found though, is since I've really accepted

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this role. So this has been about five or six

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years now, but ever since I really sank in and

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sat in my authority as a Christian and a believer

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of Jesus. And that's what I say, I literally like

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him sitting into it. Ever since then, frankly, other than electronically,

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I don't get messed with much, like meaning spiritually right,

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And so I can't say that I'm like, I'm not

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walking around exercising demons and vanishing stuff. That's not what

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I'm saying. I just I get the feeling that the

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enemy doesn't want really they don't. They don't spend time

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screwing with me because I'm I'm a hard target. I

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guess it is the best way to and I feel

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like they have limited resources, so they're not going to

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come after me because I'm not afraid. Yeah, and I

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feel like I am. I have a warrior mindset, I

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have a warrior heart, I have all that. So like

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I've gone, I'll go toe to toe with any of it.

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I don't care. It's not something that I'm afraid of

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even a little. Soh So with that, I find that

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I'm able to be very effective. And I find that

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I can like clear energies very well, Like I can

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go into a home and clear it whether it's Uh.

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I use a lot of I use a lot of

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anointing oil, you know what I mean, not like Diddy,

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but just not that kind of oil, not that not

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you know, no Diddy say uh that I can get

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down with the oil here and it's gonna that and

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then holy water.

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As well, because because I'm a big believe a lot

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many that we people get spiritually attacked, and this is

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very common, you know, and whether you're religious or not,

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you'll get you're gonna get least. It's just where I

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am with it.

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Yeah, I've go ahead. I'm sorry, I don't want to No, no, no,

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it's ok now you go. So I'm just saying, like,

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if I don't like in a situation like this, I

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have to get on. I have to pray. People have

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seen me on my audience, and my audience has seen

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me multiple times where sometimes I forget and things start

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happen technically with my side or the guest side, and

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I will say my prayer that I say and it

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clears everything on both sides. It clears. Yeah, it happened.

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It just happened two days ago, the first half of

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a podcast. And it's always when we're going to talk

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about stuff, you know, and uh, and when I'm on

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other shows. If I don't do this, I'm telling you

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there's it's inevitable that like something will screw up with

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the upload or I mean, I'm not saying every single

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thing as a demon. I'm not saying that. I'm just

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saying that when it comes to this type of stuff,

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I get it's like I'm targeted that way.

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Yeah, I can agree with that. I've experienced that. I

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would say, yeah, where you kind of feel like there's

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certain topics you can mention and it things start going wild.

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You know, it can be absolutely fine.

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Weird everything. When I talk to people like Gary Wayne

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and people like that. Man, it's it's like, you know,

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there's times where we've had to stop and pray during

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the podcast. Yeah, yeah, and it but it works.

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It.

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I remember once I was to I don't know if

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you know Vicky Joey vick.

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Favorite. I've had her to, like, had her on two

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or three times. She's great.

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I'd need to get her back home. Actually we recorded

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quite a while ago, she was on the show. It's

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a great episode. Really enjoyed talking with her. But we

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had that there there was definitely something going on where

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we would be.

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She's like a magnet.

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We were stopped about free time to stop and start again. Yeah,

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there was so much weird stuff going on that's never

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has happened before. Things do happen sometimes, don't get me wrong,

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but of course they just seem to be something trying

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to stop us talking. You know, that's the only we

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can explaining it's really the truth.

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Man, it definitely can happen. So yeah, so with that,

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I mean, that's that's part of my deal. Like so

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I feel like part of the reason I haven't had

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a lot of these experiences as I feel now I have. Okay,

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let me let me back up. I have done a

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decent amount of paranormal investigations too, right. So one example,

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we did paranormal investigation in Fort Delaware, which I don't

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know if you know for Delaware. It's uh, do you

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know it or not?

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I've heard of it.

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I've heard, Okay, So it's a it's literally a it

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was a Union fort in the middle of the dot

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and not it's in the middle of the Delaware River

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right across from like Philadelphia, but it's surrounded. It's an

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island and there's a fort on it. And it was

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a Civil War. It was a pow camp, so you

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can imagine lots of people died there. But I had

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a pretty intense experience in the kitchen, which is notoriously

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there's there's like a allegedly a cook and as soon

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as I walked in there, I knew something was there,

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but it wasn't malicious. So I sat down. I volunteered,

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sat down. I took dowsing rods, which I don't really

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mess with, but at the end of the day, I

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was like, you know what, I'm just going to do it.

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So and I found literally something come over and sit

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on my lap. Now she is notorious for flirting with

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men or like being handsy. So I just I felt

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like literally something sad on my lap and it was cold.

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And then the one of the other investigators started asking

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questions and I was just holding the rods. Man there.

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I was not manipulating. I mean, I swear on my

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kids lives I was not. And I'm just sitting there

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and all of a sudden they start freaking going and

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I just feel this cold presence sitting on my lap.

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It was pretty wild, but I didn't see anything, but

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I could totally feel it. And that place just has

461
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a weight to it that you can feel sorrow. There's

462
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.599
just there's just not good energy. It definitely held some

463
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.160
crazy energy there. The other place where I felt crazy

464
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:03.240
energy that also is with the Silk War is Gettysburg.

465
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.839
That whole place, man, it's one giant like I couldn't

466
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.640
I'm glad that we stayed out of town. Like I was.

467
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.559
One of my friends that knows me had said, hey,

468
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.160
you shouldn't stay in town because I'm sensitive to a

469
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.839
lot of this stuff. You should stay out of town.

470
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.480
And so we did. But what as soon as we

471
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.240
got in town and then got into the battlefield, it's

472
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.720
just holy hell. And it was by the end of

473
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.000
the day, I was like, oh my god, like suck dry,

474
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:40.960
just really heavy. The energy there is just brutal. Yeah,

475
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:46.279
just blood, man. There's just the amount of and that's

476
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.960
what I would call it, the amount of sacrifice that

477
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:54.960
happened there in the thousands of gallons of blood, just

478
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.759
absolutely insane. Like people don't think about it in that

479
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:04.640
capacity you had, you know, I mean we talked about casualties,

480
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.079
but casualties don't mean death. But you had something like

481
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.400
five to like six thousand people die I think in

482
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:18.000
that area. But then you don't think of the animals

483
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.440
and all the other stuff. You had something like twenty

484
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:26.480
a thousand head of cattle gets slaughtered just to feed

485
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:30.480
the troops, and some of them got killed during battle.

486
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.119
The horses that died, Yeah, dude, you know how much

487
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:38.039
blood isn't a horse? Yeah, come yeah, and that's that

488
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:39.759
stuff just saturated.

489
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.240
Yeah, that the earth is just absorbing.

490
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.640
The earth is just absorbing that. It's just like, man,

491
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.240
you feel places like that and you can just tell that.

492
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.079
Uh yeah, so it.

493
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.319
Definitely can't when you walk into as you mentioned earlier,

494
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.960
the old castle. I've got a castle. It's cool. Cool.

495
00:32:58.160 --> 00:32:59.559
It's not my castle, but it's cool.

496
00:32:59.680 --> 00:32:59.880
Cool.

497
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.799
So it's just down the road and it's a thousand

498
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.359
years old, you know, maybe older than that, but it's you.

499
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.920
You can feel the energy when you go into these places.

500
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.480
You know, they hold energy. You know, you can touch

501
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.799
the walls and think, man, the things that this this

502
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.039
place has seen. You know how many times has somebody

503
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.920
touched this wall? And you know it's it's pubs in

504
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.160
the UK. Every pub in the UK that you go into,

505
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.839
they're normally very old. There's normally an energy there. The

506
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.319
people that work they will tell you that weird stuff

507
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.079
happens and it's haunted other time, you know, because there's

508
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.400
so much energy in that one place, you know, and

509
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.799
happy times, sad times, fights, all sorts of drama, and

510
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:40.759
that seems to be that's held.

511
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:46.000
Oh yeah, for sure. The thing about Gettysburg is it's

512
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.640
uh so there's the stone that's there, the rock that

513
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.519
especially like around the little round type and big round

514
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.960
type and some of the places where the worst fighting happened.

515
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:03.000
It's piezio electric quartes. Like I can't remember the name

516
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.000
of the of the granite or the quartz, but it's

517
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:11.079
it's loaded with quartz. And as we know, quurts can

518
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:17.079
be used to to store data, you know, So, I

519
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.559
mean they do it all the time, So why would

520
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.400
that be any different, Right, That's kind of how I

521
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:24.960
look at it.

522
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:26.840
Do you think that in a lot of cases, that's

523
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:31.239
what these spirits are. They're like just like a memory,

524
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.920
just like they're not physically there, but it's like a

525
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.679
it's an energy that's being held that's kind of trapped.

526
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.000
I do that. So it's I think you have a

527
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.239
few things going on there. I think you have some

528
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:50.039
intelligence right that maybe is like hasn't moved on maybe,

529
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.400
But I also think that you get this energetic loop

530
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:00.119
type things that'll that'll that'll happen over and over and

531
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:10.079
over again, right, So I think it's literally like storing memory, right,

532
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.880
and then kind of like film would yeah, and it's

533
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.480
just playing and it just replays and certain time you know,

534
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.360
who knows what it's just.

535
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.559
I think there's a lot of different things going on,

536
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.280
Like you said earlier, I think there's like there's there's

537
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.599
a few different things that these entities probably are. You know,

538
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:33.480
there's different types, right, Yeah. The the areas that you

539
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.719
see on people. Going back to that is that every

540
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:37.840
person you see.

541
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:41.039
Yeah, so if I want to, I can. Yeah, now

542
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.639
I can't. Like one of the reasons, so these are

543
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.760
reading glasses, but a lot of times I'll wear glasses

544
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.960
just to filter because I can't I can't see I

545
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.239
can't see it through things. So I can't like see

546
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.599
you through any screen and tell your right even with

547
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.079
my glasses off. Yeah, I have to. It's got to

548
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.920
be in person. So but with that being said, and

549
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.159
the colors that I see a lot of times go

550
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:18.320
with mood, right, And I can tell you too that.

551
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:22.519
With that being said, there's definitely things and times that

552
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:29.159
I've seen people that I think are I don't know,

553
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:38.559
I don't maybe necessarily say possessed, but they're definitely something's

554
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.320
attached to them, right, Because there's some people and I've

555
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.360
seen a couple famous people and people in places of

556
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:54.760
power that have horrifically bad auras really yeah. So yeah,

557
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.119
that I've always wanted to see Donald Trump in person,

558
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.639
and I never had because I'm like, I want to

559
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:02.639
see this guy's.

560
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.000
That'd be an interested aur That's sure, yeah.

561
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.800
Because you never know, you really don't. So because certain

562
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.360
certain ours that I have seen where people will be like, no,

563
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.119
that dude's uh, you know, possessed by a demon or whatever,

564
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.679
and they're not like Bill Clinton's one of them. Great aura.

565
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.719
Have you actually you've seen Bill Clinton's aura?

566
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.559
Oh? Yeah? And and and George Bush, George.

567
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:29.039
W.

568
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.559
Bush. Now I've seen h W as well. His aura

569
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.679
wasn't this good, wasn't so good really, but his son's

570
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.800
aura was flye And is he like so, if.

571
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.719
It's like a green or blue color, is that like

572
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.679
a positive Yeah?

573
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.280
I mean yes, usually it's it's it's you know, it

574
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:53.039
almost aligns identically with chakra colors, like if you look

575
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.039
at the if you look at the chakra, like blues, violets,

576
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.199
things like that are are in greens are usually good.

577
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.639
And it's not good or bad necessarily, it's just when

578
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.360
people are hurting or like in pain, it's more of

579
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.280
like a red or like an orange, you know what

580
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:17.039
I mean. And there's different things, Like I say, people

581
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.119
get what I call sparky. So it's kind of like

582
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.239
I don't know how to describe it, dude, it's hard.

583
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.599
It's hard to describe. But sometimes people get smooth and

584
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:34.079
it's like it's almost like when you've seen you see

585
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.320
like heat waves, so they kind of like shimmer. That's

586
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:44.280
usually a good thing. But I have seen some really

587
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.920
bad or is that are literally like brown and even

588
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:54.079
black in places. Right, And like I can tell you

589
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:55.800
Hillary Clinton.

590
00:38:56.199 --> 00:39:01.760
I'm not surprised horrible or whoa you been close to

591
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:02.280
Hillary King?

592
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.960
Yeah? Yeah, I've worked security for wow man. Yeah, so

593
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:13.000
that's interesting. So her Donald Rumsfeld his or it was

594
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:20.159
not good. I can tell you that. Wow a Secretary

595
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.360
of Defense from back in the day. His name was

596
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.559
William Cohen. His aura wasn't great either, But I've seen

597
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.320
him another time where his oora was fine.

598
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.679
So it's hard to say.

599
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:35.360
That's why I want to say, like I can't tell

600
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.239
you if they're possessed or not, or I don't know.

601
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:42.039
They can't They can be having a bad duy maybe,

602
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.239
but I can tell you, like I can tell you

603
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.880
like I've never seen like very rarely do I see

604
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.119
or as like that, but once in a while I do.

605
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.679
It's like, oh no, but yeah, I've gotten to a

606
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.599
point where I told myself the last over the last years,

607
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.679
since I've really dug into some of this stuff, if

608
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.480
I see another one, like just out and out and

609
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.000
about not saying I'm going to confront them, but I

610
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.400
am to an extent where I'm literally gonna be like,

611
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.400
I see you, and I want to see what happens.

612
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:28.320
That will be interesting, So it should be fun. Yeah.

613
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.880
Absolutely, I've got to ask you what it's like working

614
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.800
for Hillary Clinton.

615
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.360
Oh, I mean, it wasn't like I was talking to her.

616
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.440
You know, I just worked a security detail where we

617
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.800
were like ancillary security, but you know we would we

618
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:50.480
did it, uh well in Bosnia. Madeline Albright and that

619
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:57.039
they came together during one of these things, so I

620
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.480
saw her from Afar there. But the other time was

621
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.280
when I once I got out of the military, we

622
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.880
were augmenting the Secret Service at the New York State Fair.

623
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.400
This is when she was a Senator for New York.

624
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.039
So I saw her her hand bill plenty of times

625
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.159
at the fair that day because we would like go

626
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.000
in advance and like get people back and then they

627
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.000
would come in and take their pictures and blah blah blah.

628
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.000
So I saw her plenty, did she did she?

629
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.639
Because obviously there's a lot of there's a lot of rumors,

630
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:33.519
shall we say, yeah, Hillary Clinton, a lot of rumors. Yeah,

631
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:35.800
did she have a black horror?

632
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.000
Did she have? I mean it was not good, it

633
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.199
was it was the can I would say. It reminded

634
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.400
me of motor oil. Whoa yeah, so really really dark. Wow.

635
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.440
So kind of fits with those rumors, shall we say?

636
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:56.559
Yeah? Yeah, And every time I've seen her, which is three,

637
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.679
it was the same. I think, to see her now

638
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.119
because she's out of the life to an extent. So

639
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.199
I wonder, yeah that I told you with William Cohen

640
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.840
when he was when he was in office not good,

641
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.440
but out of office he was fine. So it's like,

642
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.679
what does that say? Yeah, I don't know. I saw

643
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.639
George W. Bush in office and out of office, and

644
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.800
he was the same. So I saw him at when

645
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.440
I was in the Army and he was president at

646
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.360
Fort Trum where I was stationed. He came and visited,

647
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.880
so I saw him there during his presidency and then

648
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.320
after I saw him in Dallas, he came to an

649
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:48.800
event because I'm into entrepreneurship as well and so veteran.

650
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.679
There's a conference for veteran entrepreneurs that meets in Dallas

651
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.320
every year, and he comes and speaks at it. I

652
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.320
don't know, once or twice I think he has. And

653
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.920
so I've seen him there too, And and most people

654
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.679
would be like, dude, that dude's evil, and maybe he is,

655
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.840
but I think he was more surrounded by evil than

656
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.000
maybe him himself. Maybe he was just a useful yeah,

657
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.519
you know, puppet or whatever he knows. I don't know.

658
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.760
And that I just know something's going on.

659
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.599
Yeah, and that came from experience.

660
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.039
Yeah, so it's the aftermath of that. Like, ever since

661
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:32.519
I drowned, I've been able to see this, and it

662
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.960
scared the hell out of me for a long time

663
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.400
until I finally embraced it and just was like, Okay, well,

664
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.159
I guess this is my new normal. Right.

665
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.840
So it's kind of a superpower because I mean, people

666
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.440
can't character they can't.

667
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:53.079
It's hard. I'm not saying that people couldn't, but yeah

668
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.280
I can. I mean it's to a point like if

669
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.000
I see you in person, I can tell you where

670
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.079
you've got some aches and pains, probably even interest, you know,

671
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:01.880
things like that.

672
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.480
So see if if we've come across a person that's

673
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.960
kind of portraying away to you, portraying themselves in a

674
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.360
certain way, but you can kind of see around it

675
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.639
and see that that is a front, that is that's

676
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:19.559
not really whoa interesting man, that is interesting.

677
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:20.119
It is.

678
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.679
So so after the near death experience, did this happen

679
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.239
straight away, like as soon as you came around.

680
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.400
From that, you know, that's fuzzy. I don't. I don't

681
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:36.199
remember right away, but I'd say within a month I

682
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.400
realized what was happened, like what was going on at least,

683
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:44.119
you know, like but I've always felt like I had

684
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.440
control of it so I could like ignore it. But

685
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.679
in crowded areas, man, it's overwhelming. So that's just one

686
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.000
of the reasons I have. You'll never see me without

687
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.559
my glasses like on my head. So if you see

688
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.280
eve with that, like you'll see I'll just pop them

689
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.440
down and just be like, I can't see any shit

690
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.559
because they're near they're they're literally for me being able

691
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.639
to read. Yeah, yeah, so.

692
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.960
Mom, so you don't have to answer this, but did

693
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:20.119
you actually like drown and pause for a moment. Yeah, no,

694
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.199
I I did.

695
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.880
I mean, I I had to have the amount of

696
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.480
time I just remember, man, So I I chalk a

697
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.840
lot of it off to training because I had already

698
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.480
been to you know, done so much combat, you know,

699
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:46.760
swimming and whatnot that, uh, I didn't panic. So that's

700
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.559
one of the reasons I was able to just kind

701
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:54.119
of chill out. Unfortunate, it's weird, but I actually tried

702
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.440
to cut the thing that was holding me down, but

703
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.000
I couldn't. I don't know, It's almost like it was

704
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.360
meant to happen. It's almost like that's how I feel

705
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.559
like now that I look back on it, that it

706
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:11.679
was almost like this was meant to happen because everything

707
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:16.480
that could go wrong went wrong interesting, and I was

708
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.159
totally at peace with it, like I'm gonna drown, like

709
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:24.119
this is it. And I just remember being very peaceful,

710
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.599
kind of like looking at and it was beautiful, like

711
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.039
the sunlight coming through because this is in North Carolina,

712
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:36.199
there wasn't great visibility, but I could see the sunlight

713
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:42.920
coming through the water, and I just remember getting tone

714
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.679
of vision and everything coming down and it was just like,

715
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.440
I didn't freak out. I never freaked out, and then

716
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.719
it was lights out. The next thing I remember is

717
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.280
waking up on the rescue boat, just puking my guts,

718
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.880
sat over the edge, coffing up the water.

719
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:00.719
Wow.

720
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.960
Yeah, bro, well you're.

721
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:06.599
A strong dude. Man.

722
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:08.480
Yeah, i'd be a mess.

723
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:09.280
I'd be a mess.

724
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:18.800
Wow. Interesting stuff. Oh yeah, man's wild.

725
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:20.840
It is so.

726
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.519
But since that, and that's not the only time I've

727
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:28.000
drowned either that I've had to I that was an

728
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.679
actual drowning. The other two were more of like a

729
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.039
shadow shallow water blackout situation where I was in a

730
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.880
pool and that was just like. What that did though,

731
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.960
what the other situation did is it showed me to

732
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.199
not be afraid of this, so I would get into

733
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.760
a pool and push myself to the point where I'd

734
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:53.760
pass out underwater. So it's what I say to people

735
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.360
is one of the hardest things to do is we're

736
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.440
not made for water, right, And there's a live met

737
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:05.079
a lot of really good people in the water in

738
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.559
marine recon and Navy seals and guys like that, like

739
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.159
guys that can do amazing shit in the water dealing

740
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.440
with you know, just temperatures and it's it's it's all

741
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.920
up here. So what I tell people is, if you

742
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.760
want to find out how badass you actually are, get

743
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.800
into a pool with one of these guys and you'll

744
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.320
see how fast people be crying for their mamas. Yeah,

745
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.599
unless they're like a killer swimmer, or they're not afraid

746
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.559
to die, or they trust people to bring them back.

747
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.079
So it's one of those things like talk about pushing

748
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:51.559
yourself to the edge. It's a mindset and that totally

749
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.280
shifted my mindset when it came to water. It's wild

750
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.719
and I don't like water per se, Like I have

751
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:04.480
actual probably post traumatic issues with the stress and water.

752
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:06.880
Like if I taste salt water, it gets me a

753
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:11.840
little bit. You know, I'm not necessarily in the best headspace.

754
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.480
But I love the water, right, I love being by

755
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.480
the ocean. I love all that.

756
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.840
So yeah, as you say, you wouldn't change it because

757
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.000
it kind of you said it was not meant to be.

758
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.559
So that's like, yeah, like it was almost like like

759
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.960
I was called to like have this or something. People

760
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.280
will be like what, and I'm like, that's just the

761
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:37.039
feeling I get.

762
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.920
So what it is like a superpower to be old

763
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:41.320
to see.

764
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:46.719
Yeah, that is you know. Yeah. So and I'm not

765
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.239
saying it's one hundred percent right all the time. But

766
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.159
because I don't you know, necessarily read the signs, maybe

767
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.800
I don't know how. I don't. I've never worked with anybody.

768
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.639
This is all you know, trial and error on my part.

769
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:00.639
I've read a lot.

770
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.199
But you know, yeah, people that say they can do

771
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.239
the same thing, you know, around people.

772
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.480
Yeah, so it's it's it's it's a thing. It is

773
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:13.480
definitely a thing.

774
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.000
So yeah, and some people see colors in music.

775
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.559
Yeah, some people taste music. Some people there's in that

776
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:27.199
synesthesia that's like real, that's just wild. But it kind

777
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:32.400
of shows you, uh, stuff that's possibly locked up within us, right,

778
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.679
and that and that we either I look at it

779
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.599
that like after the flood and after the you know,

780
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:44.639
Tower of Babbel fell and whatnot, some stuff happened. You know,

781
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.400
God did some things and put some restrictions on us

782
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:52.840
and our genetic code. That there's some locks on things.

783
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.199
And you we can see these geneticists can see them

784
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.559
that they're literally like light switches that can be flipped

785
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.639
on and flipped off. We can do this with Crispur.

786
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.199
We can do this with other things, and I'm telling

787
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.639
you some of them. I mean, people went from living

788
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.719
being nine hundred years old to being eighty ninety. You know,

789
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.400
absolutely you shall not live to be over one hundred

790
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.760
and twenty. So how's that going to work out? We'll see,

791
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.760
especially with stuff like you know, all the crazy stuff

792
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:35.840
that's going on now, you know, transhumanism and whatnot and ablute. Yeah.

793
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.559
So but with that being said that we have, we

794
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.880
definitely have some latent stuff within our DNA that has

795
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.840
been locked down for what reason, I don't know.

796
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:50.039
We think our sentenses that we have. You know, for example,

797
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.239
even when someone's about when you think of a friend

798
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.239
that you've not spoke to you for a while, and

799
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.039
then a minute later they call you on your phone,

800
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.199
you're so far Yeah, but that is the something, Yeah,

801
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.360
that is like that is an ability that's supernatural in

802
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:02.800
my opinion.

803
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.440
Sure, there's definitely like abilities.

804
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.239
There's connections that. Yeah, when you feel someone watching you,

805
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.599
turn around, there's someone there, you know, when you think

806
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.599
you're on your own, that there's that. We have these

807
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.880
instincts in us that you know, we can't see. We

808
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.760
don't know what it is. We can't measure it, but

809
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.480
we have these abilities and obviously some stronger than others.

810
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.719
Absolutely fascinating stuff, man, Yeah, And I mean we only

811
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:29.119
see like when it comes to visual just in general.

812
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:33.679
I mean we as we know, everything is a frequency, right,

813
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:38.760
everything vibrates as well out of a certain frequency, and

814
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.400
we can only see like this much of the spectrum,

815
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.760
especially when it comes to light, Like what goes into

816
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:52.119
our eyes is nothing compared to the actual spectrum around here,

817
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.800
and we see like this much. Yeah.

818
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.440
So absolutely there's a lot going on around us that

819
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:02.360
we can't see. Firsting stuff man. Now, and we've not

820
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:03.360
got into your big.

821
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.559
Big I've got all right, I've got time if you've.

822
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.760
Got you know, I'm happy because we said an hour

823
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.079
at the stume. I've got to hear your big foot stuff.

824
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:15.840
Can we go to your first encounter when you was.

825
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:21.519
Eleven year Yeah, that was eleven so boy scouts, uh

826
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.239
and uh it was. It was at a place called

827
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.440
Bloomington Lake and the camp ground I think was called

828
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:33.599
Camp Heffernan at the time. Now it's something else, but

829
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.719
it was a boy scout camp and we used to

830
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.960
go there all the time. Now that from what I remember,

831
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:45.840
there was local legends of wild men, bigfoot type creatures,

832
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:51.039
you know, told by local indigenous folks at the at

833
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.679
the time because they weren't living there anymore. They were

834
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.639
moved on to other places, but there was still local

835
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.880
lore about experiences of decent. So we were always like a,

836
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.639
you know, maybe we'll you know, it was always part

837
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.199
in our mind because we're like, this stuff is so cool.

838
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:14.440
But either way, uh, we had been going there since

839
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.039
you know, I had been going there pretty steadily since

840
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.199
I had been like nine, So like it was it

841
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.760
was like, you know, I loved the boy Scouts because

842
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.280
I loved being out in the woods. It was I

843
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.800
didn't have the best childhood, so it was a way

844
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.360
for me to escape my life and my you know,

845
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:34.559
to be out in the woods. Because what kid doesn't

846
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:38.559
want to play Capture the Flag or manhunt or whatever

847
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.039
the hell they call it now out in the woods

848
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.639
till like two in the morning, like wild indians man

849
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.800
and I'll say it that way too, whatever, like wild

850
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:54.760
indians run around. So I loved it. So it was

851
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.440
we got to a point where we were we kind

852
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:03.400
of had the run this whole campground, which was acres

853
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:04.480
and acres and acres.

854
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:04.760
Right.

855
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.440
I can't remember exactly how many acres, but it was

856
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.239
a pretty big campground.

857
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:10.679
Uh.

858
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.760
And so you had cabins and then you had these

859
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.159
other areas where you could tent camp. Right. And what

860
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.679
we would do is because we had different squads within

861
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.119
our you know, because the Cubs or the boy Scouts

862
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.320
was set up kind of militarily. You had squads within

863
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:32.159
a platoon, right, and our squad we always chose this

864
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:36.559
pine barren like this pine woods, and because we liked it,

865
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:38.840
because the ground was nice and soft, because it was

866
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:44.159
covered in pine needles, the wind going even to this day,

867
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.920
I just remember that listening falling asleep and listening to

868
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:51.880
the wind through the pines. It's just a sound that

869
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:57.280
you don't get any with anything else. So that's where

870
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:03.199
we slept. But every night for dinner, and it was

871
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:04.880
one of those things like we had to come back

872
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:09.440
to where the scoutmaster stayed at the cabins, and that's

873
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.519
where we would have dinner as a troop and everything. Right,

874
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:19.559
So we were late, sun was going down and we

875
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:25.440
were running and there's this like little drainage ditch that

876
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.920
you have to that you had to jump, and then

877
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.239
there was this hedgerow that what we would do is

878
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.480
because we're lazy boys, instead of running all the way

879
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.960
around like the extra you know, twenty five meters it

880
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.920
would take to run down and around this hedero we

881
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:49.239
would dive underneath it and crawl under and then head

882
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:54.800
out across this field to get to the to the cabins. Well,

883
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:02.320
so the first thing I remember, and I didn't even

884
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.280
comment on it, one of the kids that was with

885
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.920
me was like, dude, what is that smell? As we

886
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.440
were jumping this drainage ditch? And as soon as I

887
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.320
was the first one across. I was the oldest too.

888
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.119
You had another kid there that was like ten, and

889
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.079
the other kid I think was like nine, right, so

890
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.039
we're all like in but I was the leader, an

891
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:31.000
eleven year old, but whatever, that's how it was set up.

892
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.119
I jumped this ditch. I remember my buddy saying, what

893
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.440
the hell is that smell? And then as soon as

894
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.559
I it's like, as soon as my feet hit the

895
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.239
ground on the side of this on the other side

896
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.480
of this drainage ditch, the hedgerow in front of us

897
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:56.039
like exploded, and I just I remember looking up and

898
00:57:56.280 --> 00:58:00.840
I could I saw the hedgerow like separate, and there

899
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.119
was this figure. I could see the shoulders and the

900
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:10.360
head backlit by the sun, and it let out this

901
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.960
god awful which I will never forget it was, and

902
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.159
I felt it as much as I heard it. This

903
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:27.079
like yell roar is more like it, and it like

904
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.679
what appealed paint off of something. Man, it was just intense.

905
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:41.079
And as many experiences as I've taken, like reports of it,

906
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:46.960
it's a pretty regularly experienced thing. Is this roar type thing.

907
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.519
And you know, I just remember like hitting the ground.

908
00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:58.199
I heard that one of the youngest kid just scream

909
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.119
and they both took a write and headed that way,

910
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:07.400
and then I did right after them too. I don't

911
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.719
there was no like pursuit or footfalls or anything after that,

912
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.480
and we just ran as fast as we could to

913
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.960
get to where the scout masters were. We told them,

914
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:24.280
and they all told us we were crazy. One kid,

915
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.679
the youngest kid, the nine year old kid, his parents

916
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.920
had to come pick him up, and then the other

917
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:37.599
kid too. But the other kid was never these both

918
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:41.360
these kids were never the same after that. The one kid,

919
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:45.599
I never saw him again. Frankly, the youngest, he quit

920
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:51.039
boy scouts, Uh you know, like that was it. And

921
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.800
then the other kid, I just remember because he was

922
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.440
he was in the same town where I was, like

923
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.039
the same part of the school district. Stuff. Like I

924
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.679
remember he didn't go to the same school as I did,

925
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.800
but we ended up going to the same middle school.

926
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.000
And I just remember after that, like he he just

927
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:16.599
was a different kid. And I think he ended up

928
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:20.760
dying in a car accident. But yeah, just why, I mean,

929
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:27.400
like it changed their lives, this experience and this again,

930
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.000
this is a repetitive pattern I get with because I've

931
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:37.480
taken hundreds of encounters. I've heard people tell their stories

932
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.920
about encounters, hundreds of them, and many of them it's

933
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.000
ruined their lives, like this is one of the most

934
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:48.079
profound things that's ever happened to them. And they like

935
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:52.119
they avid hunters that never go to the woods again.

936
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.719
Stuff like that. Like so people will pooh pooh h no,

937
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.519
you didn't see it, or it was a figment of

938
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:04.559
your mad nation. Well maybe, but I'm telling you it.

939
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:12.719
It is a real encounter with something, whether it's bigfoot

940
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:14.920
or not. I think it is, Yes, I think it's

941
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:18.679
a real flesh and blood thing beyond that. I think

942
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:22.400
it's something beyond that too, But I'm saying it exists,

943
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:28.079
and it definitely makes an impact on people in our societies.

944
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:32.719
Absolutely one incredible encounter. And as you say, it was

945
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:34.440
negative for the other boys.

946
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.480
Yeah, and I wouldn't say it's positive for me either,

947
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:41.320
but it was. I don't know. I just was able

948
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.360
to deal with it, did you, Like I said, I

949
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:48.280
was more like I got it peaked. Like I'm more

950
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:52.440
intrigued by it even today, to this day, I don't

951
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:56.840
go out in the woods and I'm not afraid. So

952
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:57.599
I don't know what to tell you.

953
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.199
You know, did you see a face on this thing?

954
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:01.840
Could you see?

955
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:06.760
I didn't? I I did not. Now the second experience

956
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.599
that I had, there was more features, Like definitely it

957
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:14.440
was a more of a a human type. It wasn't

958
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:19.719
as much ape as you would think. It was more humanish,

959
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.440
you know, I mean, I didn't get it wasn't like

960
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.800
you know, click I saw a picture, but you could

961
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.360
see the eyes like kind of like kind of sunken

962
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:37.719
in but defined brow ridge, but more of a human

963
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.880
nose than you would expect. You're like, what like, yeah,

964
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.519
thinking back, like you think like you're going to see

965
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:51.239
a gorilla and it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't. And that

966
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:56.039
experience is almost identical except for what happened in Alaska

967
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:00.679
and there wasn't a hedgerow. We were coming over a ridge,

968
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:08.480
but I was in the Marine Corps and came over

969
01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:14.800
this little rise and there was freaking again smell, like

970
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.000
what the hell is that smell? And then it stood

971
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:25.079
up and it was like shocked that we were there, right,

972
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:31.559
So it was almost it and it roared again. That

973
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.199
one roared and then it turned around and took off.

974
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.960
So I'm of the impression now in my experience, I

975
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:43.679
think that maybe because other people have that same smell,

976
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:47.320
they get it. I don't know if it's a permanent thing.

977
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.800
I think maybe it's a it's a it's a stress

978
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:59.280
reaction possibly mm hm does yeah, kind of, because both

979
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.679
those times that I smelt it, I've had it was

980
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:07.480
a stressful situation even for the creature. Yeah, because we

981
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:13.320
like we were in its space right or coming upon

982
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:17.800
it in its space. And then I've had other encounters

983
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:22.159
where I know, I had one within now it was

984
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:26.760
totally black, darkout. I had one it was within eight

985
01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.599
feet of me. I know it. I could feel it

986
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:37.800
mm hmm. And there was no smell at all. Interesting,

987
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:39.960
Also no aura.

988
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:47.159
Interesting, so you could see you if there's a big

989
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.559
fun that you you think, I would.

990
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:52.119
Think I could because I can see animals. I can

991
01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:55.119
see auras in like deer, I can see ours, and

992
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.880
like squirrels, I have to be able to see them.

993
01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:01.199
Though it's not like it's not like a daredevil. It's

994
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:05.320
not like I can see you know, it's a superpower,

995
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.039
but it's not like that. It's not like uh, thermal

996
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.920
imaging or something. But if I know it's there, I

997
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.719
can concentrate enough to see. Does that make sense? Yeah? Absolutely?

998
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:23.199
And that sucker had no aura. Interesting, So I don't

999
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:27.880
know what that's all about. Yeah maybe they Yeah, and

1000
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.559
it But that also brings up things for me with animals,

1001
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.159
like what causes this aura?

1002
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:33.719
Is it?

1003
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:36.239
Spirit? Is his soul?

1004
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:36.679
Is it?

1005
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.159
What is it? And why do animals have it?

1006
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:41.440
I mean, you can't get bad dogs.

1007
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:41.920
We know that.

1008
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.239
You do get some folks just kind of god. I

1009
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:48.840
can tell you that most most dogs are amazing and wonderful.

1010
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.519
We know, but you do you do hear stories of

1011
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.760
just like an evil dog like you get evil human Yeah,

1012
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.360
you can't get evil dogs. That's so interesting.

1013
01:05:59.440 --> 01:05:59.639
Mine.

1014
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.079
That one that you saw in Alaska, so you wasn't

1015
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:04.199
on your own again, you was with.

1016
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:06.800
Yeah, it was with one. Well, one other guy saw it.

1017
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.519
The other guys were strung out too far behind us,

1018
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:14.800
but they saw the aftermath. And again the guy that

1019
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:18.840
I was with, he will you know, he said he

1020
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.800
won't admit that he saw what he saw. He it's

1021
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.320
not that he won't admit. I think that he's in denial,

1022
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.840
but he's like something. But he's like, I don't know, man,

1023
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.000
I had to be a bear. I'm like, dude, no,

1024
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.639
it was a bigfoot and he's like, oh way, like

1025
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:37.320
you know, yeah, yeah, And I haven't I haven't talked

1026
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:42.119
to him in years, so and frankly, I don't even

1027
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:43.920
know if he's alive at this point.

1028
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:47.800
But well, yeah, can I ask what color that one was?

1029
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:48.400
Was that?

1030
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:48.599
Like?

1031
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.079
Oh? That one? So that one they were both well,

1032
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:53.519
I couldn't tell you that, but the one in Alaska

1033
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.639
was definitely darker, like a brown or even black, maybe

1034
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:03.280
m dark dark. It wasn't like cinnamon or you know,

1035
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:09.639
discernibly light brown dark. It was that it was mostly

1036
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:14.840
backlit as well, because it was it was in July

1037
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.880
in Alaska, and as we know, it was like eleven

1038
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:23.320
thirty at night, but it's the light out. So but

1039
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.920
we were coming down this ridge and it was sun

1040
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:30.199
was behind but it was like still pretty decent high,

1041
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:31.679
but we're in the mountains.

1042
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:31.519
So.

1043
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.199
Weird shadows and stuff. But I yeah, definitely like a

1044
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.079
darker darker. Wow, was that a lot of the skin

1045
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:41.920
as well? At the skin of this green Now, I

1046
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.639
remember the skin being a little lighter what I could

1047
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:49.079
see around here and it was literally here like the

1048
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:55.079
mouth like you know, and I just remember that there

1049
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:59.480
was a I could see a differentiator there between light

1050
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:04.400
and dark, but not like white but lighter.

1051
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:10.159
Yeah. The hair, yeah, and he's a nine foot two

1052
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:11.920
over nine foot two one was huge.

1053
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:12.360
It was.

1054
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.400
It was unbelievable. And the path that it left going

1055
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.920
down the mountain was anything short of a freight train

1056
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:21.680
is unbelievable.

1057
01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:26.079
When it moved. Because people that see these so fast, Yeah,

1058
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.359
people describe the movie it looks it looks unnatural because

1059
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.920
obviously they're so big, but they're so graceful. Would you

1060
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:32.560
say it was like that?

1061
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:36.239
Yes, so fast, and it was gone in a blink

1062
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:41.199
of the NYE is unbelievable. Oh what a thing wild.

1063
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:42.920
I do want to see a big foot.

1064
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:44.319
I know.

1065
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:46.199
I know, as you said a lot of the times

1066
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:47.680
this thing because I wish.

1067
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.359
I know a guy who's been literally doing this in

1068
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:54.119
this space for twenty years and he's never had a yeah,

1069
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:56.399
class a sighting.

1070
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.960
A lot of the a lot of the Big four experts.

1071
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:04.920
You know, I think you have Cliff Cliff, right, Yeah,

1072
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.079
I don't think you have the same one, right, I

1073
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:10.359
don't think if. I don't think so, But obviously someone's

1074
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:13.399
out in the field every day, yep. So you know,

1075
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:15.840
these things are hard to say. It's it's like a

1076
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:16.720
gift really.

1077
01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:19.039
But it's like once you've seen one, it's almost like

1078
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.439
you're I don't know, man, I feel like there's such

1079
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:25.720
a super net. There's like a supernatural aspect of this too,

1080
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:30.000
because I feel like since you've seen once you've seen one,

1081
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:32.880
I feel like you're more I don't know, if like

1082
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:35.439
you're marked or like there's like a there's like an

1083
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:41.159
attunement or something to their world. Something. I don't know,

1084
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:48.039
because once you've seen one, I feel like it maybe

1085
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:49.279
you're just more open to it.

1086
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:51.760
Yeah, And do you think that's what we've old the

1087
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:57.479
paranormal really, because I know I've gone on other paranormal

1088
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:02.319
investigations where people are so skeptical and they never haven't

1089
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:04.359
and there nothing ever happens.

1090
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.920
But then if you go with somebody who's open to

1091
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:12.039
it to it, things will happen, you know, on spirit

1092
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:16.880
boxes or whatever. Mm hm, You'll get feedback and knocks

1093
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.159
and doors will move and all kinds of stuff. But

1094
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:22.680
if you go with someone that it's like they don't

1095
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:26.960
want it or they're afraid of it mm hmmm, and

1096
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.119
they kind of yeah, it's like they shut it down.

1097
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:32.000
So I don't know what that is.

1098
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:35.520
But interesting, mane, Well what do you think a difficult question?

1099
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:37.520
But what? Well?

1100
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:39.119
What do you think a big foot is? What do

1101
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:39.720
you think there?

1102
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.159
Wow? Well, I mean I I do talk about this

1103
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:52.079
a lot. I I think that they are some sort

1104
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:57.880
of because I am a firm believer. I think they're

1105
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.279
what you would call an el eud You ever heard

1106
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:06.479
that term. It's kind of like the offspring of the

1107
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.319
nephilum m okay. So I feel like they are some

1108
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:18.840
sort of genetic hybridization of think about this and and

1109
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:23.560
I don't know. This is just where I go because

1110
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.520
I'm like, we have all of these. I'm really big

1111
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:31.279
into the genetics, right, and like the Sons of God

1112
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.319
and the Daughters of Men coupling and creating the nephilum.

1113
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:39.439
But they it wasn't just that, like they coupled and

1114
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.399
created all kinds of weird shit all over the freaking

1115
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:49.840
planet with everything they corrupted all right, Now, Yes, we

1116
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:54.520
had the flood and that allegedly tore everything. It wiped

1117
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.199
everything out except for what was on the arc, right,

1118
01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.920
But I think there was a second incursion, and I

1119
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.560
also think that it happened again, otherwise you wouldn't have

1120
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.439
like the rafayeing the gibberin those things. But I also

1121
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.680
feel like that second incursion also because you've got what

1122
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.800
you would call little g gods, which would be the

1123
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:21.159
sons of men. Right if you look at pantheons acrust,

1124
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:25.279
because that that's what these are, these fallen angels or

1125
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:32.079
these rogue angels, right, they are, and many of them

1126
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.239
can take the form of other things, or some of them,

1127
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:38.159
like cherub them, have more than one form.

1128
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:38.720
Right.

1129
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:44.600
Seraphim are allegedly lizards or snakes or you know, the

1130
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:52.479
reptilian type. But you've got bulls. You've got so if

1131
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:55.600
you go over to Asia, you have many, many, many

1132
01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:02.720
monkey gods, right, So why would that be any different.

1133
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:10.439
It's just a hybridization of a monkey god and daughter

1134
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:17.359
of man. And then it goes from there, right for

1135
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:20.960
some reason, That's what my gut tells me. So, and

1136
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.840
and I think dog men are the same kind of thing.

1137
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.159
I think a lot of these cryptids, that's that's what

1138
01:13:26.319 --> 01:13:30.119
it is. And then and then on top of that,

1139
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:37.399
I think that there's some sort of just because they

1140
01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:40.079
are what they are doesn't mean they're all bad. I

1141
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.159
think that there is many of these things that are

1142
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:50.680
in search of redemption. Interested so maybe you have good

1143
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:55.159
ones and you have bad ones a lot, or they're

1144
01:13:55.439 --> 01:14:00.439
just controlled by a certain thing and they haven't been

1145
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:04.560
loosed yet. Like think of Revelation and all the different

1146
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:08.279
trumpets and all the different and all the different unleashings.

1147
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:10.640
And we hear about the theory on and the beasts

1148
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:15.319
of the Earth being released onto the earth again and

1149
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.840
that they kill out, kill off like a quarter of

1150
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:23.079
all humanity. What are the theory on? Maybe they're these

1151
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:27.560
creatures I don't know. Yeah, these are just theories.

1152
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:31.319
Right, because if these things wanted to attack us and

1153
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:34.319
take us out, oh, come on, we'd have no chance.

1154
01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:38.600
Yeah, and maybe maybe you know, like you talk, I mean, guys,

1155
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:44.039
David Pilates was just on if you know who David

1156
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:49.359
on one he was just on Joe Rogan and talking

1157
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.840
about I'm a friend I've so I I'm friends with

1158
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.520
Travis Carpenter. Who is Scott Carpenter's son.

1159
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:01.000
I don't know, absolutely yeah, and we we go through

1160
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.960
I have, you know, a.

1161
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:09.239
Couple of Scott's books and uh man that they've done

1162
01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:16.359
the DNA of Sasquatch or of the of you know, Bigfoot,

1163
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.760
and I don't think it's contaminated. I don't think all

1164
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:24.880
the all the naysaying bs about no, it's not real,

1165
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:30.720
it's it's hooey, it's all crap. They were very professional.

1166
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.399
They did it exactly. I mean, they had they had

1167
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:39.960
world class geneticists and at world class labs blind testing

1168
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:41.880
some of this DNA, and they came to the same

1169
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.680
conclusion where we can't we can't tell we can tell

1170
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:47.760
you where the mother's from, but we can't tell you

1171
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:48.640
where the father.

1172
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:49.600
Is or what it is.

1173
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:57.439
So yeah, and and to me that just says I mean,

1174
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.119
when the DNA for the mitochondrial DNA comes from a

1175
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:07.840
Middle Eastern halotrope female Middle Eastern halotrope from twelve to

1176
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:13.359
fifteen thousand years ago, what come on in the middle

1177
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:17.119
of North Carolina? What are you talking about? What are

1178
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:21.800
you talking about? So I think people need to get

1179
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:25.199
their heads out of their tails and really start just

1180
01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:29.159
opening their minds to this stuff, that the stuff that's

1181
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:33.920
going on is actually happening. Just give it, give it

1182
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.439
the tiniest bit of weight and read about it, do

1183
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:42.479
some research about it. And yeah, it's scary to some people,

1184
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:44.479
but you know.

1185
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.880
And it kind of makes sense why these things sort

1186
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:52.880
of seem to flirt between the supernatural and the flesh

1187
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:55.880
and blood. You know, there seems to be something supernatural

1188
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.920
to these things, but at the same time they are physical.

1189
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.199
They all flesh and blood as well.

1190
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.319
Yeah, I think that you have I think that they

1191
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:10.159
have abilities. I think like every other semi angelic being.

1192
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:13.399
And I say angelic in the in the loosest terms,

1193
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:17.119
because angel is not a angel is a job title,

1194
01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:20.840
it's not an actual I hate calling them angels. Because

1195
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.319
they're not. That's not what they all are. All angel

1196
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:30.560
means this messenger. They're not angels. They're something, but there's

1197
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.920
something else, right, or as like Timothy Alberino would say,

1198
01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:39.479
there are are you know, older Brethren or whatever, you know,

1199
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:45.720
the elder race, right because they came before us. But

1200
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:51.920
they have some sort of supernatural abilities or higher technology

1201
01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:58.479
and or both. Right. So with that being said, I

1202
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:01.920
think that some have certain I mean, some can maybe

1203
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:06.520
use portals, some can uh, you know, disappear, or some

1204
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:09.600
can go who knows, who knows what their abilities are.

1205
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.239
But yeah, I feel like if they want to be

1206
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:15.319
seen there scene and if they don't want to be,

1207
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.520
then they don't. And that goes for a lot of

1208
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:24.640
these things. So it's you know, I think that we

1209
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:28.840
as humans need to humble ourselves and realize that we

1210
01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:34.880
don't know my My motto on my show is I

1211
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.880
don't know shit. And so at the end of the day,

1212
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.000
if you look at things and realize that you don't

1213
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:47.640
know shit, anything could be true. Right that you have

1214
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:52.880
to use discernment. You have to use discernment and use

1215
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:57.399
your gut, ask for guidance, ask for help, say hey,

1216
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:04.000
this is what's going on? Uh, you know, ask and

1217
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:10.880
and then listen, and sometimes you'll get answers. Yeah, absolutely,

1218
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:15.159
sometimes you won't. And because a lot of stuff you're

1219
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:18.359
not meant to know. Heaven forbid, we're not meant to

1220
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:20.760
know yet. They're not yet.

1221
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.399
And there seems to be different levels to these creatures

1222
01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:28.079
as well. You know, we we kind of put big

1223
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:29.960
Foot in the same bracket. But as you said that,

1224
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.279
the one that you saw in Alaska kind of looked human,

1225
01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:35.920
you know, facial features.

1226
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:38.760
I feel like there might be types, right, yeah, absolutely, Well,

1227
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:41.560
because if you look at the pantheon, if you look

1228
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.560
at the monkey gods, some of them are different. You

1229
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.640
have ones that are more like lemurs, right, You've got

1230
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.239
ones that are more gorilla like. You have some that

1231
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.880
are more chimpanzee like. I mean, dude, you don't We

1232
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.560
don't know. Like we think we know our genetics. But

1233
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:02.279
at the end of the day too, you know, you

1234
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:04.960
have this going all the way back to Genesis. We

1235
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:09.880
have this problem where we have you have Adam and Eve,

1236
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.239
and for some reason, some people believe that Adam and

1237
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.960
Eve at the beginning of it all, and Adam was

1238
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:21.439
the first man. It says that, but on day six

1239
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:29.319
they create the elohem create man and woman, man and

1240
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:33.479
women in their likeness and send them out to the earth.

1241
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:38.199
So what does that mean. It means that there was

1242
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:44.600
two separate creations, right, And it means that because if

1243
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.079
you look at Cain, after Kane kills Abeliness then ejected

1244
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:52.319
from where they're at to the land of Nod, he's

1245
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:58.800
afraid of something. He's afraid that people will kill him. Well,

1246
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.399
who the hell are these people then that we speak of,

1247
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:06.000
Where did they come from? Who are they? Well, now

1248
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:09.920
with this being said, we have anatomical humans. Right, So

1249
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.239
this is where it gets confusing, guys, and it's complex,

1250
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.840
but you have to look at it. If the DNA

1251
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.760
is the DNA, or the chromosomal stuff is whatever. But

1252
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.600
at any given point, there's times when we can look

1253
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:26.399
back at science and see that there are seven different

1254
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:29.800
hominids living on the planet at the same time. What

1255
01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:35.520
does that mean If we can, if we as dumb

1256
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:46.279
Homo sapiens can designate and delineate between different Homo you know,

1257
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:52.000
homodsnovn Homo, Neanderthal, Homo sapien, Homo. There's some that we

1258
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.159
don't even know what they are. We have what they

1259
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:58.279
call ghost DNA where they know it some sort of

1260
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:02.560
other hominid that we have DNA from, just like I

1261
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:08.159
have like to one point two percent Neanderthal DNA. Right,

1262
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:14.800
you probably have some too. But with that being said,

1263
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:19.560
there's some populations like in Africa where they have up

1264
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:23.039
to like five percent of their genome. They can't identify

1265
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:29.720
what it is. So okay, what we're doing is opening

1266
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.039
this thing, you know, and people like that is the heresy,

1267
01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:36.079
it's not biblical, and I'm like, no, you're right, but

1268
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.920
we don't have all the answers, So what is going on?

1269
01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.520
I don't know. It gets complex and it gets really confusing.

1270
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:47.199
It's really fast, but it.

1271
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:52.720
Makes you think, absolutely absolutely.

1272
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:55.920
Which is what is that? What the hell is going on?

1273
01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:57.119
How does it happen?

1274
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:02.279
And we've got some paus the puzzle. Yeah, but we

1275
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:02.840
haven't got to.

1276
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:06.600
Oh yeah, we have enough to be dangerous, right, yeah, absolutely,

1277
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.600
like Crisper, I mean, dude, this is the other thing

1278
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:18.079
there's there. It's absolutely one hundred percent. We have cloned

1279
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:21.800
humans as well on this planet because people have gone

1280
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.520
to jail for it, like you can find these things.

1281
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:28.600
So we have one hundred percent cloned humans. What does

1282
01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:29.520
that look like?

1283
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:33.479
And all they out there walking among us?

1284
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:40.439
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, and that for Nee what is going on?

1285
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:41.159
I don't know.

1286
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:43.920
And for people that don't know what a nephile is

1287
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:47.479
or what a demon is, it's a disembodied spirit of

1288
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:51.119
a nephil one. That's what an actual demon is. I

1289
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.520
don't know how much you talk about this on your show,

1290
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:58.319
but we tip outs in that. Yeah. If you've never

1291
01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:03.720
interviewed Gary Way and you need to Gerry Wayne, oh

1292
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:07.279
my gosh, he's like the goat when it comes to

1293
01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:12.520
Nephelin and giants. Interesting and Jen Jen six dude, he'll

1294
01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:15.520
make your head explode.

1295
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:20.359
I've got the Book of Enoch, I've not ready, I've

1296
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:21.079
not read it yet.

1297
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.319
That he can. He can tell you the Book a

1298
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:27.000
Enoch from one end to the other and then beyond. Bro.

1299
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.920
He is a he's a grand Wizard's amazing.

1300
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:35.039
This stuff is is so it's so interesting. And people

1301
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.520
say about the Bible. When you look at the Bible itself,

1302
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:41.159
there's so much to it. Man, they could make an

1303
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:44.479
incredible series Game of Throne style.

1304
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.880
Never will though, And I'll tell you why everybody would

1305
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:53.880
want to be Christian Yeah, they'll never do it because

1306
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.159
it would be the coolest movie ever made period.

1307
01:24:57.840 --> 01:24:58.199
It is.

1308
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:03.479
It makes Game of Throne or what's the other one

1309
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.239
that has been of late. You've got Game of Thrones,

1310
01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:10.119
You've got Lord of the Ring. It makes all of

1311
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:13.840
that look like child's play. And if they were to

1312
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:18.319
turn it into a multi movie series, I mean, they'd

1313
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:22.079
have to probably do about ten movies or so just

1314
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:25.960
to get good parts of it. But if they were

1315
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:29.640
to do that, it would be it would be the

1316
01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:33.039
coolest story ever told, and it would be more action packed,

1317
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:39.560
and it unbelievable, unbelievable need to do it. And most

1318
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:44.119
people on these even Christians, just scratch the surface and

1319
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:47.319
we rely way too much on what other people tell

1320
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:52.720
us instead of going after the knowledge yourself and reading

1321
01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.960
it and going, what in the hell are they talking about?

1322
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:02.119
Are they talking about? Giants? Really know? And these giants

1323
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:05.720
are fighting with this and angels are fighting dragons, and

1324
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:09.079
I mean, bro, it's crazy, and this.

1325
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:11.720
Is this is our history, this is and this is

1326
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:16.319
its the crazy world that we live in. Now make

1327
01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:17.560
a little bit of sense.

1328
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:20.560
Well if you look too. And this is the thing is,

1329
01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:28.119
these stories across all continents all cultures, all religions. They

1330
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:35.119
all rhyme period, every culture everything, they all rhyme, from

1331
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:39.720
South America to Asia to even Australia to all of

1332
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:45.199
it Europe and all of it. They all rhyme all

1333
01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:45.840
the stories.

1334
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:47.640
I need to do it, man.

1335
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:51.880
So they're just talking about they're talking about the same

1336
01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:56.279
gods and people will be like, what do you mean gods?

1337
01:26:56.399 --> 01:27:00.239
And I'm like, well, even God called the other the

1338
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:07.159
or the the loheem. You have big you have big

1339
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:10.199
g God, and then you have little g gods. He

1340
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:16.119
even called them gods. Yeah, and most people have no idea.

1341
01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:16.960
That's what it says.

1342
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:22.279
Yeah, man, as you say that, there's so many different

1343
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:26.039
directions you can go with this as well. It's fascinating stuff, man,

1344
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:27.479
it's absolutely fascinating.

1345
01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:31.199
I mean it gives us a lot of content, right, absolutely, yeah.

1346
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:37.560
And that's not even getting Like today, I I released

1347
01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:42.399
an episode on the Masarath, which is the celestial the twelve,

1348
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.560
the twelve celestial things in our sky that tell the Gospel,

1349
01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:54.000
and people have wait, what, and I'm like, yeah, God

1350
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:58.920
put the Gospel in the sky as the you know,

1351
01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:01.840
all the things that were co opt the Zodi, the

1352
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:08.119
Jewish zodiac. It was all co opted by astrologers and

1353
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:11.359
and all this stuff. But it tells the story of

1354
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.159
Jesus and God in this sky. We can see it

1355
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:17.880
in the sky and we can see it, and this

1356
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:20.920
is you know, this is what's called the Mazarath. So

1357
01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:24.199
I urge people. I mean, I could go through it,

1358
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:27.520
but why wouldn't you just look at it yourself, check

1359
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:28.000
it out.

1360
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.680
Both save that for another episode. That would be very cool.

1361
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.199
And it's it's all the it's all the figures, from

1362
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:40.880
Virgo to Leo, from the Virgin to the lion. Who's

1363
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:50.039
the lion at the end, it's Jesus interesting to the Virgin,

1364
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:53.399
ends with the Lion. I'm telling you. It's it's all there.

1365
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:58.119
So you just dropped an episode on that going in today?

1366
01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:02.840
Yeah, I just did today actually, Okay, So it's kind

1367
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:04.119
of boring, guys.

1368
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:07.279
I'm not gonna doesn't sound boring, but it's not.

1369
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:09.760
But it is. It's it's one of those things. It's

1370
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.319
people people getting foggy eyed because they're like, holy shit,

1371
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.319
like you know, because it's scripture heavy a little bit,

1372
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:21.479
but you know, you gotta do those episodes every once

1373
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:21.880
in a while.

1374
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.720
Absolutely man, and you've got to concentrate a lot of

1375
01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:26.600
the listener's got to concentrate on what you'll see.

1376
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:28.960
Yeah, like or you should listen to it more than once,

1377
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.239
because oh god, I had to do my research on that.

1378
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.720
I mean, the first time I ever heard about it

1379
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:42.359
and took the the actual serious like going in and

1380
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:46.359
delving into it seriously was about two years ago. Three

1381
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:49.079
years ago, about three years ago when I heard it

1382
01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:54.680
a gentleman named Ed Maybray talk about it, and he's

1383
01:29:55.439 --> 01:30:00.840
he's a great biblical I guess you'd call him biblical scholar, researcher.

1384
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:05.720
He's been a lot on Nephelin Desk Squad, a lot.

1385
01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:10.960
O Ye, cool show they did, like a whole couple

1386
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:13.600
series is on Revelation. They did one. It was like

1387
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:19.720
a twenty two episode block on every Friday. They talked

1388
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:22.800
to like a much book of Revelation. It's pretty amazing.

1389
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:25.920
Yes, Yes, that's a that's a cool show.

1390
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:29.399
You've been almost so much content out there, guys. Absolutely,

1391
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:30.479
it's ridiculous.

1392
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.760
Absolutely, man, there really is, there really is. Well, people

1393
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.560
need to check out your show, that's for sure, if

1394
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:38.279
they haven't already. And I'll put links in it so

1395
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:38.960
people can go to.

1396
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:40.680
Your show right now as well. Brother.

1397
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:45.079
I've absolutely loved talking to you tonight, sir. It's absolutely

1398
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:49.520
fascinating talk. Oh brother, it's perfect for podcasting.

1399
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:52.319
I know just enough. I know just enough to get

1400
01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:56.159
myself true about a lot of different things, right, No.

1401
01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:58.600
It's all I hope this is the first of many

1402
01:30:58.720 --> 01:30:59.159
we did say.

1403
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:00.840
Yeah, we can do many.

1404
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:04.000
Get you on my show too, Yeah, absolutely, and I'll.

1405
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:07.279
Send you I know, I'll send you the calendar, the

1406
01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:09.000
calendarly link listen.

1407
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:13.960
Thank you very much, Yeah, pleasure, Thank you very much.

1408
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:14.239
Brother.

1409
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.920
Well can you tell the listeners where they can find

1410
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:18.000
you in your awesome show?

1411
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Yeah. So the show is called Broadcasting Seeds. You can

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find it everywhere that broadcast, you know that broadcaster, broadcast, YouTube,

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I guess the big ones are YouTube, Speaker, Apple, and Spotify.

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That's where I push people to go. And then I

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also am an author. If you want to support the show,

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01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:42.119
this is really the way that I ask people to

1417
01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:48.039
support is go to Bennett tantonbooks dot com and I've

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01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.960
got seven different books and the they're on things as

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01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:57.760
you know, they're the The books are on things that

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are just as wide as my interests are so there's

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no there's no rhyme or reason to it. And then

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also with that, I have outro music that I publish,

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So every single episode I do, I do a song

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01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:19.560
for that episode, and with that then I post it

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01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:24.520
to Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music and so people can download

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01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:28.720
those songs as well. Oh wow, help support the show.

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And some of it's really good. I write the lyrics

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01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:37.680
and AI does the music. So it's in so many

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01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:43.560
different genres, everything from Christian to Wu tang hip hop. Yeah.

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Have you sung on that yourself?

1431
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:46.199
Yeah?

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01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:48.720
Wow, that's cool.

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Rob. Yeah, I'm a man of I don't know what

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01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:54.840
you would call me, but either way, that's stuff that

1435
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:59.720
keeps me saying I write a lot. So wow.

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Well, you're absolutely awesome. You're awesome. People need to go

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01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:06.520
and check it out right now if they haven't already. Brother,

1438
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thank you so much. I'm already excited for the next one.

1439
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Thanks for to do it soon.

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You're a legend man.

1441
01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:13.039
Thank you very much, appreciate it.

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Guys, thank you so much for listening. We hope you've

1443
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:19.479
enjoyed this episode. If you have, please share it where

1444
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:21.880
you can. That is a great way to support the podcast.

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And we'll be back very soon for more freaky conversations.

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In the meantime, stay safe and keep it freaky by

1447
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for now, thank you very much.

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Brother. Yeah, absolutely, anytime man.

1449
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So much in your room, you can't move, you can't speak.

1450
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:55.800
This is a horrible, horrible feeling.

1451
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You know, you're looking out into the darkness and then

1452
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.840
you see it figure it's darker than the dark room.

1453
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:04.760
I just get this like really creepy feeling. And I

1454
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.960
see this, uh, this like shadowy, deeply looking big ear

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in the front seat of the dard.

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01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:13.560
She used to come into my room at night and

1457
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:17.479
stand right by my bed, and I just was petrified.

1458
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:21.840
I remember I saw something fly by my bedroom window.

1459
01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:23.840
We heard at the bathroom door shut. So then we

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01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:26.239
looked out my bedroom window down the hallway in the

1461
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:28.039
bathroom door was wide opening.

1462
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:33.159
So we came around the bend and we saw eyeshine.

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01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:37.520
This state stood up, I mean it stood up, and

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01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:38.039
it

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01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:41.880
Had high pointed airs, it had a snow had long arm,

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and it just it grabbed the deer